@@winstonsmith7801 Glad to see more people are waking up to this hard frightening future they want for us, i've been a watchman on the wall warning about this for at least 15 years. Thumbs up to you.
Sadly, 20+ people were killed in South Korea at a battery factory. Global society is not currently equipped to handle the demand for batteries necessitated by net zero and EV. The quality control and safety management standards required to keep workers and consumers safe are in direct opposition to demand growth being driven by net zero policies.
@@dps615 No doubt, oil rigs are dangerous and result in fatalities every year. My point is that society is not yet prepared for mass battery adoption as growing global demand is driving rapid expansion that is exceeding quality, safety, and storage capabilities.
Well, you had better give up all lithium batteries then, including the one you are typing comments on right now! Many already catch fire in your pants, and that can be very painful! We will all have to go back to using Nokia phones. No more portable power banks, even your watch and computer has a lithium battery in it, and I am not talking about laptops. Desktop computers have a button lithium battery.
And over 500 people have been killed in oil refinery accidents since 2014 in Nigeria alone. Every year people die on oil rigs and repairing pipelines...live near an oil refinery if you want to knock 5 years off your life expectancy...nothing hurts people and habitats more than pumping, shipping, refining and burning crude oil products.
@@yamamancha Wrong. Check out the CCA (Sweden) data on car fires. Not only are EVs 20 times less likely to cause a fire than an ICE car but in the last two years the number of EVs on the road has doubled while the incidents of fires have remained the same. Check out the data on the 'infamous' Chevy Bolts that were 'always bursting into flames'...in fact there were 16 fires in the first 144,000 cars sold up to end 2021..all of them traced back to a manufacturing fault form the battery supplier (LG)...we don't hear about EV Bolt fires any more and if a petrol or hybrid car had 16 fires per 100,000 new cars they would be considered the safest on the road. Study the DATA not the clickbait headlines.
@@dps615 It is proven that oil is formed all the time and in the last six months they have found more oil than we have used so far.In addition, they know that there is oil on one of Jupiter's moons, Titan, and there has certainly been no forest or dinosaurs .
There are enough fossil fuel reserves to last for several centuries. When oil and natural gas run down, tar, oil shale and coal can be converted to liquid hydrocarbons or gas. Once all fossil fuels are depleted, then hydrocarbons could be made by either biotechnology or industrial chemistry.
@@dps615 Oil reserves are for many, many years and future technology will help. At the moment, everything we make, touch, see, eat or wear is reliant on oil. When you come up with an alternative, let the rest of the world know. We await with baited breath.
@@dps615 The Germans were able to make synthetic fuels for their cars in the 1930s and we use synthetic fuels for chainsaws and garden machinery so we are not as dependent on oil as many people think.
Brett Weinstein has gone from a warmist, to an open skeptic in just a couple of years. He has also gone from referring to covid as a pandemic, to "the so called pandemic". Its all pretty obvious to anyone with any common sense really isn't it?
So the question is whether this has become a movement of nature worship religious fever, complete ignorance of science and basic math, a massive taxation plan, or a plot to control every aspect of our lives in a critical theory based future? Yeah, it's all four.
Climate change is real and not the only issue. Duecto human or not ? Pollution, ressources depletion, habitat destruction etc.. are real and due to human. We need to change or die. Humanity is suicidal.
I did not know Australia had his own car industry to get independent of the rest of the world... ps The most economical is electric driving if we calculate the TCO when driving enough km/year. And only someone who want to bash at all costs EV will try to link net zero to EV cars...NO EV driver will do that ever. Also the only reason to buy an EV if that car is , in the personal circumstances, cheaper to operate (including ALL costs) than a comparable ICE.
Imagine for a moment what they are trying to do here in UK by mandating that all gas boilers will be replaced by some imaginary date and all petrol vehicles will be replaced with BEV. The necessary generating capacity required will be astronomical as well as the infrastructure upgrades to carry all the power. Most modern housing estates in UK have underground cables sized for a time of much lower power usage. To add electric heating and vehicle charging would probably be an impossible task, even by 2050 and the cost would be out of this world. All this is for a scam problem that doesn't even exist.
One could almost think that the net zero policies have been pushed to increase the cost of energy and making all our industries uncompetitive compared to others who build coal power plans and able to buy that coal cheap.
The goal of this net zero insanity is just control. Just like during the c19 period. They want to control all aspects of our lives and especially reduce access to property and get rid of individual transportation...
Carbon power plants are being closed globally. Reasons The pollution , and high cost of operation. The good part. They are being replaced by renewable energy power plants.
During the farmer protests in northern Europe around a year ago, i recall seeing an interview outside by a news outlet called "Rebel News" _[it's HQ is here in Toronto]_ and one of their reporters were interviewing a anti-WEF politician, and they said it bluntly, *****this is a forced Collectivist transition***** and basically he said we must do all we are able to stop it by not complying, resisting.
I have a 16 kw solar array on my home, it is good for what I want, I back it up with a substantial battery bank and back that up with Grid and a Generator. My point is that over the last week, the weather has been pretty crap, meaning I have relied heavily on the grid to charge my batteries. For a substantial part of that week, my 16 kw of panels was generating 200w of power, a good example of installed capacity v actual generation. You aren't running a country on renewables.
Out of 8 billion humans on this planet very few can afford such an instalation. 95% of us (7,5 billion) live on less than 25,000$ per year. Only richer westerners can afford high investment like that despite public money being used to subsidize it. And having roads plus cheap fuel and cheap personal transport vehicle (car,motorcycle) increases employment possibility by 50 %. It increases employment range from ca. 10 mls radius (public transport,bycycle) to ca.50 mls. so people have more chance to find any job or to get a better-paying one. This forced transition will cost the poor and working class dearly.
@@ms-jl6dl Not sure why you think how many people there are in the world has any bearing on Australia energy grid. Also, public money didn't subsidise my power set up. Nor why you think that public transport is only practical for 10 miles. But I do agree that we are in the process of wrecking our grid and it is going to hurt a lot of people.
1. Iceland Renewable energy generation: 86.87% 2. Norway Renewable energy generation: 71.56% 3. Sweden Renewable energy generation: 50.92% 4. Brazil Renewable energy generation: 46.22% 5. New Zealand Renewable energy generation: 40.22% 6. Denmark Renewable energy generation: 39.25% 7. Austria Renewable energy generation: 37.48% 8. Switzerland Renewable energy generation: 36.72% 9. Finland Renewable energy generation: 34.61% 10. Colombia Renewable energy generation: 33.02% Just noticed that renewable energy is more abundant in the tropical zone, but few countries there use it. Google is such a wonderful tool.
The government will no doubt step in to throw more tax payer money at the charging cost issue. Nuclear would indeed solve the power generation issue and get rid of idiotic wind farms and solar farms but the power distribution problems would still make EV's impractical. The only real net zero solution for vehicles is bio fuel.
Take a look at the destruction of thousands of square kilometres off Australian farmland for incredibly toxic canola plantations and then think again about "bio fuel" being an environmentally friendly alternative. It isn't, but what it does do is force up the price of grain, beef, dairy and lamb raised on what is left of our nation's farmland. Same goes for wind turbines and solar "farms" poisoning the same lands.
Nuclear power is ridiculously expensive and just cannot compete with solar and wind.....why is solar and wind idiotic? To produce machines that transforms free sunshine and wind into usable electricity is beneficial to all.....that is why it is being installed in almost all countries that have the resources to do it.
The engineer in me loves the idea of EVs The environmentalist in me hates the idea of them The problem is OVER CONSUMPTION , not what we are consuming So we are consuming ourselves into extinction and that day is getting closer & closer by the minute . The problem is HEAT not CO2 and we need to produce a lot less of it which is a problem because just about everything we do produces heat . What is important is the life span of the vehicle, not what powers it . Mandating a 20 year life span for motor vehicles will do more to reduce pollution than converting to EVs And FWIW I have been driving NET ZERO emission vehicles for 30 years, they are called LPG and when powered by Auto gas , which is at least 75% scrap refinery gasses that would otherwise be flared off it nett emissions are almost zero . Pollution is nothing more than a valuable resource going to waste .
23rd of March 2005. On that day, at the BP Texas City Refinery (USA) The release of flammables led to an explosion followed by fires. The latter killed 15 workers located close to the source of the accidents and injured another 180, alarmed the community (with 43,000 people ordered to remain indoors), and resulted in financial losses exceeding $1.5 billion, due to the damages to the refinery and the houses in a radius of 750 meters from it. Accidents do happen in all industries but the mayor fatalities are in one of your entertainment "pyrotechnics" of fireworks. Couple of examples : After the 2014 accident in southern China that killed 12, the factory’s boss was sentenced to six years in prison for negligence and flouting safety regulations. (A similar accident in the country’s northeast that killed 38 people in 2003 saw the owner of an unlicensed fireworks factory sentenced to death.) Thailand on Wednesday(Jan 2024), an explosion at a fireworks factory in the country’s central region killed an estimated 20 workers, as the worksite was completely demolished, leaving behind no survivors and injuring many others in the surrounding area, local authorities said.
thats onl the first step. then the goal will be to move all people to mega cities so they can use the "mass transit" that the .gov controls, and live in a house you cant afford so the gov subsidizes. Total dependency is their goal.
Yes, Solar Panel owners here in Sweden who are connected to the grid have to PAY if they generate electricity on low demand hours. Another news from Sweden, Northvolt who makes EV Batteries says there is 5 times more batteries right now produced than is in demand. BMW have retracted one of their contracts for EV batteries also.
Here in Thailand the grid company don't like it either if you feed power into the grid when they don't want it....the answer is easy, just turn on a couple of extra air conditioners in the house to use the excess electricity....problem solved.
Mine won't I have 10kW of solar panels on the roof...I don't even pay tax on the sunshine I use to make electricity.....and I paid cash for my house...never had a mortgage.
@@martinwalker9234 -- Nice, but not everyone is as fortunate. Also, it will take more than free electricity to survive after the price of energy goes through the roof!
How many birds do wind turbines actually kill compared to the number of chickens, ducks etc. that are killed for human consumption? Also are these endangered species or just sparrows and pigeons?.... If you are on the subject of killing wild life how many species died during the Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon and the hundreds of spillages caused by the oil industry?
@@martinwalker9234 I'm not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic. I am not advocating for oil spills which actually happened in the US not Oz. The number of native birds and bats killed is significant though not as many as cats eat. Large projects in Oz are regularly stopped because the may kill a dozen or so native species. But if its a woke cause there is no limit on the number of native animals that can be killed.
I know that is sarcasm, but fans don't actually cool the air, they just move it around. We feel cool when the air is moving if it is below body temperature.
Demand charging is one reason why charging stations intentionally throttle each charger down when multiple chargers are being used. I just watched a video of a charging station that could deliver 250 kW when only one or two chargers were being used but throttled the max power to 60 kW when all 8 chargers were being used. Not knowing if you're going to get 250 kW or 60 kW is totally unacceptable to most people - that's the difference between getting a 10 to 80% charge in 30 minutes (charging slows down above a 50% charge) or 2 hours.
So, with the move away from base-load power production, what happens if the grid is knocked offline with all the "renewable energy" solar and wind farms attached? As in a true blackout. Is it going to be harder or easier to restart the grid with black-start plants while you've got all these variable and sporadic power generation plants hooked up, all while you have households and businesses sitting out there ready to suck in as much power as possible to charge EVs, run HVAC, power computer equipment, and all the other various electronic devices we have?
No Nuclear power is a waste of money. Takes more than double the estimated time, and more than double cost. Projects last 10 years or more. Renewables are cheaper, low maintenance and projects take less than a year from start to being on line.
Another weird thing about wind and solar is the way they push batteries as a solution to the intermittent supply problem, as if they always produce but not at full capacity so a few hours of battery charge can solve the problem. In reality, we need to make sure we have power when regular weather events cause wind and solar to both shut down for days at a time. The only way to do this is excess supply from gas, oil, coal, or nuclear on the side. Even worse, these crazy assumptions mean that they can theoretically solve the problem by building a lot more wind and solar, when it just means we have to shut some of them down when they’re working and we are no better off when they aren’t. I wish they would start consulting and trusting trained engineers again.
ftgj it is possible to combine all this, with the single condition - martians send us HUGE money. So huge that it will be enough to build storages for several day demand, counting for 15B per (not the biggest, 2GW power and storage for 24h) pumped hydro and so on. Including local batteries on every fast charger, able to charge the whole day long and discharge instantly (30 min) into car batteries. Price tag for this happiness is roughly $2/kwh.
There's a serious arithmetic error at 4:38. 10 EVs for 15 minutes is NOT 1256kW x $16.65 = $20812.50. It's 1256kWH x $16.65 = $20812.50 / 4 = $5203.13. No-one on earth can buy a kW of electricity, they can only buy kWH.
The demand charge is calculated on the average kW power drawn during the peak 15 minute period. (Just think of it as the peak power drawn during the billing period.) The energy usage charge is calculated based on total kW hours of energy consumption during the billing period. (Integral of power over billing period if you’re math oriented.)
Your point is OK but your numbers are wrong. Where I live energy is only $0.12 kwh. My son price (20 miles away) is $0.10 per kwh. In my case 1256 kwh X $.12 = $150.72 , NOT $5203.13. My ev has a 65KW battery, and if depleted to 0 it will cost $7.12 for a range of 266.5 miles. A gas car at 30 mpg with gasoline at $3.00 will cost $26.50 doing the same distance. The gasoline car is 3.74X more expensive without counting the extra distance going to a gas station, and the normal maintenance of an ICE car.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan Your point is OK but the cost of electricity at the peak demand time in the example is $16.65 per kwh. What you pay where you live is not relevant in this example.
No one seemed to understand the conundrum of the EU legislation to reduce our electric consumption by restrictions on lighting and electric goods, then at the same time instigating the transfer over to EVs.
In Germany spiked the MWh price to +15000 € and goes ito negative when there is too much solar and wind. So we buy energie for high price and pay to get rid of it thats how Solar and Wind works.
Australia has been subsidizing solar energy since 2007 ... 17 years ..... what has happened to the price electricity in 17 years .... the cheapest form of energy ?..
I’m not sure the demand charge issue is as big as the article maintains it is. For example, I think in the case of Tesla superchargers, 4 charging stalls share one 350 kW power supply so there wouldn’t be 4 - 350 kW surges. So the maximum demand is effectively capped by the total output of the hardware and each car demand is throttled.
It takes at least 10 years to get a nuclear plant built and operational and then of course they are going to take the same to get approved so we are looking at 20 years for every plant. Small nuclear plants are what we need and in a hurry and the LFTR seems to be the very thing. Built on a metal raft that can float with all the stuff that you need to generate electricity they could be mass produced but that is never going to happen as its far too sensible. How long does it take to build an oil tanker? 2 Years? Its probably about the same for an LFTR. An interchangeable solution that could be floated in and out and taken away for servicing. And its far safer too. Look it up on here.
Sarcasm to follow. How to supply the energy to make a tesla super charger work. First buy a 250 KWatt diesel electric generator cost is about $30,000 US. You will need one for each tesla super charger, so it will only charge on car at a time. You will also need a large tank of diesel to supply the generator. You will have to hire some one to refill the diesel tank on some regular basis. If you are very clever you can tap into the local natural gas lines and run you generator off the natural gas. The natural gas will be cheaper than the diesel per unit of energy.
If you read the agreement in your new EV which you HAVE to agree to, if you don't you can't use car, BUT in the agreement, it states that Geo fencing can be used at any given time, basically it means that you're new EV at any point can be told to activate, and that you can ONLY go a set distance 🤯🤯, basically government control
The first thing those who rule should learn is that the climate is not something man can control, man can improve the environment to a certain limit without exterminating himself.
Also I have solar on my house, 6.3kw. I also have 1 Tesla powerwall 2, wish I could have gotten more but priced out unless your rich. Since I have dont that I have not had an Electric Bill from our over prices electricity company. We pay $0.39kw during the day, till 4pm, then we pay almost $0.70kw. During the summer I used to see a bill of over $600 a month for the 3-4 months. Now I see nothing. If I could have gotten another battery I could see even more cases where I dont need the grid at all.
Same here, I have 10kw on the roof, a 10kWh house battery and use the V2L function of my BYD seal to power my air conditioner from 5 pm to 8 am. Saves a huge amount of money.
*To MGUY Australia* You are wrong on one thing, you said demand is lowest at the middle of the day, the lowest usage is during the night, highest usage is from the hours of 8 am to 5 pm with some valleys through that time period. I live in Canada and we have time of day billing where the rates we pay for hydro change depending on what time of the day it is and guess what time period they charge the most for, 8 am to 5 pm and its because that is when hydro usage is the highest. They say its to encourage people to change their behavior to even our the power usage but businesses can't change their hours nor can industries and people's schedules are set that way for a reason so we know its for money.
I thought electricity woes could be helped by reducing the amount of electricity required, not increasing its usage? If homes were better insulated against the heat less electricity would be needed. As for transportation more efficient vehicles are needed not electric powered ones.
They will realise that the only solution is to limit the charging stations maximum current draw from the supply. One EV car will be able to fast charge, but if ten are there at the same time, they will all be limited to very slow charging! It is the only way to make it work.
you seem to have missed the point, most people who own an EV don't use fast public chargers....they charge from home at a fraction of the cost...that is the idea of owning an EV
@martinwalker9234 Most people who buy EVs live in city's, that is where the cars are at their best. A significant number do not have a driveway. Probably why sales have fallen sharply, the people without driveways do not want EVs, to much hassle charging. London is full of EVs, a significant percentage of the cars on the road, out in the countryside where everyone has a driveway you hardly see an EV. Strange that fact, possibly due to the distances we drive.
Like I have always said the goal is not for everyone to own an EV The goal is for the masses to own no vehicles at all It is the only thing that makes sense
I heard today in the media that in Ireland, they have solar & wind power. But when there ain’t no sunshine(often!) & ain’t no wind, Ireland is plugged into France’s NUCLEAR power for backup!🤣
you don't need sunshine to produce solar power, just daylight. I have 10 kW of solar on my roof which produce 2 to 3 kw when it is cloudy, more than enough to power my house. Even when it really over cast and raining I still get 1 kW, the same applies to large solar panel installations....you really need to read up on this stuff before you post
@@martinwalker9234 Oh really? WOW, who’d have thought? I didn’t say there was no benefit. All I said was in Ireland they need BACKUP on these days, as we would & do here. If you reckon we can be completely self sufficient on renewables you need to read up. A case, well two in point. I have had solar hot water panels for my industrial laundry for more than 30 years. In summer the temperature off those panels hits as high as 50-60C & gas usage drops by around 75-80%. I still have gas fired dryers. In winter its maximum is only 20C, if that, off the roof. Meaning I have to rely on gas, to attain water temperatures exceeding 50C. Gas costs increase substantially. Do you think industrial clothing will be cleaned up to standard with cold water? Simply put, no. I also have solar panels on my roof at home, feeding back into the grid. Again, in summer it’s great & the benefits are immense, as my electricity bill is very, very low, but in winter negligible.
"You literally couldn't make this kind of stuff up..." Au contraire. "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" features an electric monk, a time-saving device that can believe all the contradictory things you hear. It saves time because you needn't bother sorting it all out. (suggested reading, by the way).
Notice bowen and co have stopped talking about batteries? but batteries are paramount to make sunbeams and farts work..... so why? if anyone cares to do the calcs, average house uses 20kWh per day, double it for when no beams and no farts, then multiply by the houses in Australia that's needed storage JUST for houses, now double it to account for your EV, now pick a multiplier to do roads, transportation, hospitals, shopping centres, workplaces, manufacturing, etc. When you come to a impossibly big number, aim to do that every 10-15 years It's often spruiked that the opposition to EV's is pushed by the mining industry.... It's almost like its the opposite
Please talk about backup storage. The UK needs 30,000 gwh of backup, for renewables. But by 2030 we will only have 50 gwh. So only 29,950 gwh to build, by 2050. And if it is not built, the lights will go out. And you die….. R
@@martinwalker9234 Yes, all serious fires of any source need investigation for future prevention, regardless of energy source, including understanding the difference between battery or oil fires.
The government will step in and effectively transfer wealth to make this work either with government owned charging networks (taxpayer money) or regulating (limiting) what power generation companies can charge for public vehicle charging which will transfer demand power charges to other power users to remain profitable - either way the taxpayer will end up funding the bill as usual
Isn’t nuclear power going to solve the EV induced supply issue? Haven’t EV sales tanked to the point of irrelevance? Haven’t unaffordable insurance costs killed the EV dream? Aren’t EV‘s outlawed yet, because of all the fires that destroyed RoRo ships, ferries, car parks and apartment blocks? Isn’t rare earth and lithium too rare to produce enough EV‘s to worry about?
This is a religion, no need for practical considerations. Showing off to family and friends is way more important. "Look at me, I'm doing my bit to save the planet."
Let's not forget the also strain on the system from albo's extra 1,000,000 houses he and the socialist states plan to build (and despite numerous large home builders going bust of late).
if you are paying for this electricity as you should and the company doesn't SCAM orher customers to pay for your charging you will literally pay what $1000 per 100 miles if you charge in peak demand i mean if that's not cheap why would anyone want gas cars right
Don't blame the government, blame the delusional voters who enable these politicians and their destructive policies. And they will vote for them again come the next election.
The government, and political parties of all persuasions, is fully aware of the limitations of EVs in a country as massive as Australia. Plus its preponderance of geriatric Aussies travelling huge distances with their huge caravans and motorhomes and the country's dependence on ICE semi trailers for the delivery of everything. They know not much is going to change. But for political expediency they must appear to be doing something. It's about votes. Just like You Tubers, where it's about clicks.
That's why Aptera solar electric vehicle will work where other EV's fail. It uses 1/3 the power of a Tesla and can get up to 40 miles (64km) per day from solar alone. I only drive 20 miles round trip M-F so I will never have to plug into the grid.
Aptera is such an interesting car. Not just from the technical side. I love the tech that they are developing for it but also from a social stand point. I've seen a lot of people bash on evs but taking a liking to this ultra efficient car. Why do you think that is?
@@Luka_3D My personal reason is the augmentation of charging through solar just makes sense, not having to plug in is a huge plus. I also have a background in aerospace so I am especially offended at all the inefficient vehicles that keep getting produced (and bought). Aerodynamics are beautiful boxes and polygons, not so much 🙂
@@Mikey_Likes_It_Too Yeah I can't really deny that it's objectively just a better car. Even from the Right to Repair side it's just awesome and it uses OpenPilot! But alas.. Even though I'm an ev nut, I just can't stomach that shape yet. I'm still more of a Model S/ID.7 kind of guy with some more agressive lines.
@@Luka_3D Well shoot, if we all liked the same form factor we'd all be driving Lada's. There is a reason there are a hundred different types of ice cream, we all have different tastes and that's ok.
I can remember back in the 90s there was a push to stop electric products that have a stand by mode because of wasted energy and now they want us to charge cars that drain 10s of kilowatts. This world is nuts today
Yes. Democrats seem to dislike nuclear as much as petroleum. Perhaps petroleum and nuclear energy don’t benefit their socialist mentors in China (as electricity capture products do). In any case, it is clear they desire to push forward with EV's and charging stations. Charging site owners will not bear the cost of high demand rates for EV charging. The logical conclusion is high demand charging costs will be measured and passed along to EV owners. It is a shocking revelation that energy operating costs for EV’s will ultimately be far more expensive (rather than far less expensive) than for gasoline vehicles.
One of the reasons why my partner and I chose not to have children . Guilt free living do what ever we want and have saved more footprint than all these people pumping out rug rats. Also means more money for us not wasted on little brats that don’t appreciate it .
Nice update on charging stations needing to be profitable, so to pay for overhead and still make a profit they will need to just about double or triple the rate they pay utilities...talk about ripping off the customers...
So if Increase in EVs uptake decreases stability then so does building more houses and complexes with A/C. This story is nothing more than FUD, most people charge at night or at a time when demand is at the least. Most people use 240 VAC/10A to charge an EV, so how can this demand be such a problem! Since when does all the EVs charge at the same time??? NEVER.
Last year we had a few weeks of nice weather in the UK. They found out that their solar panels didn't work in the sun, and our last remaining coal fired power station had to be fired up. It's scheduled to be closed in September 2024, then we will be stuffed.
NSW plans to close its biggest coal plant, 2Gw from 12Gw state demand. Last year NSW grid almost collapsed, with some forced disconnections they managed to keep it up, with 2GW less generation at peak time 1900 collapse is imminent. With loud cries "renewables!!11 already produce 30%!!111".
Solar panels are not economical in cloudy upper latitude areas such as the UK. Wind turbines make little sense anywhere with the possible exception of remote polar regions.
Meanwhile Germany is in the process of building nine new coal fired power stations. They will burn Lignite, the filthiest fuel on the planet. Search online for the facts.
Well it finally happened to me. My friend came to me complaining he couldn't get anyone to buy his used EV car at anywhere near what he thought he should get for it. I didn't give him any sympathy. 7 thousand US tax payers dollars were given to him to help pay for it.
Trillions of tax payer money are used in the gasoline industry incentives so that the US has very cheap gasoline compared to most countries in the world Gasoline TRILLION, EV BILLION a factor of 1,000 (gas) to 1(ev)
It's quite easy to understand the contradiction when you realise that the intention is not to get everyone to drive EVs but to stop most people driving at all. When we peasants are forced to give up our ICEs and are then trapped in our 15 minute ghettoes we can be more easily controlled, which is the real intention.
Completely agree. The whole idea that you will be able to charge and go wherever and whenever you want is fantasy. They have no intention of sorting out the charging, ever, in any country. They will however use the IP address of your EV to stop you driving or charging on certain days and will even lock you out of it remotely. This is all about control and as we already know nothing at all about CO2 or other green issues as an EV is neither clean nor green.
Ooh the 'they' want to stop us all driving conspiracy theory nonsense..what a victim of misinformation you are! Let me give you some facts. Home solar + EV = FREEDOM...cheap, cheap driving for the lifetime of you and your car without the need to make a slavish pilgrimage to the oil company place of prayer to hand over your hard earned cash to those poor oil companies, Putin, the Sheiks and those other lovely purveyors of poison. Next thing you need to know is that solar power is on its way to powering the entire planet, replacing not only coal and gas in electricity grids but primary energy too. If you want to understand this subject I recommend reading a detailed study in The Economist this week. To give you some perspective, the entire world installed 1 GwP of solar in 2004, by 2010 it was putting 1 GwP a month, by 2016 1 GwP a week and was providing 1% of global electricity. By 2022 solar hit 1,000 GwP (1 TwP) and was providing 4% of global electricity...this year the world has been installing 2 GwP per DAY and will hit 6% of global electricity. The world isn't running out of places to put panels and the raw materials for panel making are cheap and abundant, the $/watt price halved again last year and by the mid 2030's solar will be the biggest source of ALL our energy for driving, heating and cooling...and btw the price of static batteries has halved in the past 4 years and continues to fall. The FANTASY is that we can continue digging and rilling coal, oil and gas...which at current rates of consumption will all be gone in 80 to 100 years anyway.. so just be happy that you are living in a revolution where cheap, clean energy will be powering our economies into a sustainable future.
The only rational you can apply to this is governments do not want average people to drive at all.
Yep , hence 15 min cities . No cars , only bikes , electric scooters and public transport.
Who elected the government?
There is hope, just look at what happened to the greenies in the European elections...
To be honest, the current plague of car dependency is rock bottom. We can only go up from here
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@@winstonsmith7801 Glad to see more people are waking up to this hard frightening future they want for us, i've been a watchman on the wall warning about this for at least 15 years. Thumbs up to you.
Sadly, 20+ people were killed in South Korea at a battery factory.
Global society is not currently equipped to handle the demand for batteries necessitated by net zero and EV.
The quality control and safety management standards required to keep workers and consumers safe are in direct opposition to demand growth being driven by net zero policies.
How many people have died at oil rig fires over the years? Neither are safe but I'd rather work somewhere where I have a chance of escpaing
@@dps615 No doubt, oil rigs are dangerous and result in fatalities every year. My point is that society is not yet prepared for mass battery adoption as growing global demand is driving rapid expansion that is exceeding quality, safety, and storage capabilities.
Well, you had better give up all lithium batteries then, including the one you are typing comments on right now! Many already catch fire in your pants, and that can be very painful! We will all have to go back to using Nokia phones. No more portable power banks, even your watch and computer has a lithium battery in it, and I am not talking about laptops. Desktop computers have a button lithium battery.
And over 500 people have been killed in oil refinery accidents since 2014 in Nigeria alone. Every year people die on oil rigs and repairing pipelines...live near an oil refinery if you want to knock 5 years off your life expectancy...nothing hurts people and habitats more than pumping, shipping, refining and burning crude oil products.
@@yamamancha Wrong. Check out the CCA (Sweden) data on car fires. Not only are EVs 20 times less likely to cause a fire than an ICE car but in the last two years the number of EVs on the road has doubled while the incidents of fires have remained the same. Check out the data on the 'infamous' Chevy Bolts that were 'always bursting into flames'...in fact there were 16 fires in the first 144,000 cars sold up to end 2021..all of them traced back to a manufacturing fault form the battery supplier (LG)...we don't hear about EV Bolt fires any more and if a petrol or hybrid car had 16 fires per 100,000 new cars they would be considered the safest on the road. Study the DATA not the clickbait headlines.
When you try to solve a problem that doesn't exist with money that you don't have, then the result is what we live in now.
so we'll never run out of oil? Really?
@@dps615 It is proven that oil is formed all the time and in the last six months they have found more oil than we have used so far.In addition, they know that there is oil on one of Jupiter's moons, Titan, and there has certainly been no forest or dinosaurs .
There are enough fossil fuel reserves to last for several centuries. When oil and natural gas run down, tar, oil shale and coal can be converted to liquid hydrocarbons or gas.
Once all fossil fuels are depleted, then hydrocarbons could be made by either biotechnology or industrial chemistry.
@@dps615 Oil reserves are for many, many years and future technology will help. At the moment, everything we make, touch, see, eat or wear is reliant on oil. When you come up with an alternative, let the rest of the world know. We await with baited breath.
@@dps615 The Germans were able to make synthetic fuels for their cars in the 1930s and we use synthetic fuels for chainsaws and garden machinery so we are not as dependent on oil as many people think.
Bowen is taking a wrecking ball to our energy grid and economy... while smiling like a Cheshire Cat.
He also got a pay rise.
The Cheshire Cat had the good grace to disappear.
The global warming narrative makes no more sense than the covid narrative when examined critically.
Brett Weinstein has gone from a warmist, to an open skeptic in just a couple of years. He has also gone from referring to covid as a pandemic, to "the so called pandemic". Its all pretty obvious to anyone with any common sense really isn't it?
Right you are. And if you really examine each of them from "past to future" destruction it is hard to tell which is worse.
So the question is whether this has become a movement of nature worship religious fever, complete ignorance of science and basic math, a massive taxation plan, or a plot to control every aspect of our lives in a critical theory based future? Yeah, it's all four.
Climate change is real and not the only issue. Duecto human or not ? Pollution, ressources depletion, habitat destruction etc.. are real and due to human. We need to change or die. Humanity is suicidal.
Examined by whom? A high school drop out?
We need to simply withdraw from the Paris agreement and use the most economical energy, transportation and agricultural resources available.
Vote REFORM in UK, they are sure to cancel this NetZero Scam!
Withdraw from the UN, WHO, NATO as well
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I did not know Australia had his own car industry to get independent of the rest of the world...
ps The most economical is electric driving if we calculate the TCO when driving enough km/year.
And only someone who want to bash at all costs EV will try to link net zero to EV cars...NO EV driver will do that ever.
Also the only reason to buy an EV if that car is , in the personal circumstances, cheaper to operate (including ALL costs) than a comparable ICE.
The clear message: "We don't want you comfortable or able to travel. That's only for those of us at the top."
Imagine for a moment what they are trying to do here in UK by mandating that all gas boilers will be replaced by some imaginary date and all petrol vehicles will be replaced with BEV. The necessary generating capacity required will be astronomical as well as the infrastructure upgrades to carry all the power. Most modern housing estates in UK have underground cables sized for a time of much lower power usage. To add electric heating and vehicle charging would probably be an impossible task, even by 2050 and the cost would be out of this world. All this is for a scam problem that doesn't even exist.
Not a scam : a mental illness
WHO says that ALL petrol vehicles will be replaced by BEV ???????
Bet the MPs are getting shares in alternative companies. Corruption all the time.
Fast charging shortins the life of a battery
Thats not strictly true, depends on the chemical makeup of the battery
Reduces
only according to someone that cannot spell simple words correctly.
@@dps615 no, its true. Ive lived solar/battery since 2012. its true.
@@organickevinlondon no, also according to people like me, who have lived the solar/battery lifestyle since 2012.
One could almost think that the net zero policies have been pushed to increase the cost of energy and making all our industries uncompetitive compared to others who build coal power plans and able to buy that coal cheap.
True, all part of the WEF's control plan.
The goal of this net zero insanity is just control. Just like during the c19 period. They want to control all aspects of our lives and especially reduce access to property and get rid of individual transportation...
I disagree, there's no 'almost' about it😅.
Carbon power plants are being closed globally. Reasons The pollution , and high cost of operation. The good part. They are being replaced by renewable energy power plants.
During the farmer protests in northern Europe around a year ago, i recall seeing an interview outside by a news outlet called "Rebel News" _[it's HQ is here in Toronto]_ and one of their reporters were interviewing a anti-WEF politician, and they said it bluntly, *****this is a forced Collectivist transition***** and basically he said we must do all we are able to stop it by not complying, resisting.
I have a 16 kw solar array on my home, it is good for what I want, I back it up with a substantial battery bank and back that up with Grid and a Generator.
My point is that over the last week, the weather has been pretty crap, meaning I have relied heavily on the grid to charge my batteries.
For a substantial part of that week, my 16 kw of panels was generating 200w of power, a good example of installed capacity v actual generation.
You aren't running a country on renewables.
Out of 8 billion humans on this planet very few can afford such an instalation. 95% of us (7,5 billion) live on less than 25,000$ per year. Only richer westerners can afford high investment like that despite public money being used to subsidize it.
And having roads plus cheap fuel and cheap personal transport vehicle (car,motorcycle) increases employment possibility by 50 %. It increases employment range from ca. 10 mls radius (public transport,bycycle) to ca.50 mls. so people have more chance to find any job or to get a better-paying one.
This forced transition will cost the poor and working class dearly.
@@ms-jl6dl Not sure why you think how many people there are in the world has any bearing on Australia energy grid.
Also, public money didn't subsidise my power set up.
Nor why you think that public transport is only practical for 10 miles.
But I do agree that we are in the process of wrecking our grid and it is going to hurt a lot of people.
If you live in Australia your solar panels were definitely subsidized @politenessman3901
@@glennp9904 Yes I do and no they weren't.
1. Iceland Renewable energy generation: 86.87%
2. Norway Renewable energy generation: 71.56%
3. Sweden Renewable energy generation: 50.92%
4. Brazil Renewable energy generation: 46.22%
5. New Zealand Renewable energy generation: 40.22%
6. Denmark Renewable energy generation: 39.25%
7. Austria Renewable energy generation: 37.48%
8. Switzerland Renewable energy generation: 36.72%
9. Finland Renewable energy generation: 34.61%
10. Colombia Renewable energy generation: 33.02%
Just noticed that renewable energy is more abundant in the tropical zone, but few countries there use it.
Google is such a wonderful tool.
The government will no doubt step in to throw more tax payer money at the charging cost issue. Nuclear would indeed solve the power generation issue and get rid of idiotic wind farms and solar farms but the power distribution problems would still make EV's impractical. The only real net zero solution for vehicles is bio fuel.
Take a look at the destruction of thousands of square kilometres off Australian farmland for incredibly toxic canola plantations and then think again about "bio fuel" being an environmentally friendly alternative. It isn't, but what it does do is force up the price of grain, beef, dairy and lamb raised on what is left of our nation's farmland. Same goes for wind turbines and solar "farms" poisoning the same lands.
Impossible to produce more than 1 or 2% of what our total vehicles need.
Biofuel still pollutes the air we breath. Not an alternative at all.
Nuclear power is ridiculously expensive and just cannot compete with solar and wind.....why is solar and wind idiotic? To produce machines that transforms free sunshine and wind into usable electricity is beneficial to all.....that is why it is being installed in almost all countries that have the resources to do it.
The engineer in me loves the idea of EVs
The environmentalist in me hates the idea of them
The problem is OVER CONSUMPTION , not what we are consuming
So we are consuming ourselves into extinction and that day is getting closer & closer by the minute .
The problem is HEAT not CO2 and we need to produce a lot less of it which is a problem because just about everything we do produces heat .
What is important is the life span of the vehicle, not what powers it .
Mandating a 20 year life span for motor vehicles will do more to reduce pollution than converting to EVs
And FWIW I have been driving NET ZERO emission vehicles for 30 years, they are called LPG and when powered by Auto gas , which is at least 75% scrap refinery gasses that would otherwise be flared off it nett emissions are almost zero .
Pollution is nothing more than a valuable resource going to waste .
Unfortunately, 22 people died at a South Korean Lithium Battery plant. There was no indication in the print that it was a battery plant for cars.
23rd of March 2005. On that day, at the BP Texas City Refinery (USA) The release of flammables led to an explosion followed by fires. The latter killed 15 workers located close to the source of the accidents and injured another 180, alarmed the community (with 43,000 people ordered to remain indoors), and resulted in financial losses exceeding $1.5 billion, due to the damages to the refinery and the houses in a radius of 750 meters from it. Accidents do happen in all industries but the mayor fatalities are in one of your entertainment "pyrotechnics" of fireworks. Couple of examples : After the 2014 accident in southern China that killed 12, the factory’s boss was sentenced to six years in prison for negligence and flouting safety regulations. (A similar accident in the country’s northeast that killed 38 people in 2003 saw the owner of an unlicensed fireworks factory sentenced to death.)
Thailand on Wednesday(Jan 2024), an explosion at a fireworks factory in the country’s central region killed an estimated 20 workers, as the worksite was completely demolished, leaving behind no survivors and injuring many others in the surrounding area, local authorities said.
You can’t afford a car or travel.
Target reached 🥳👍
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Leftist elites will still travel so that they can feel more important than the plebes.
thats onl the first step. then the goal will be to move all people to mega cities so they can use the "mass transit" that the .gov controls, and live in a house you cant afford so the gov subsidizes. Total dependency is their goal.
Exactly, end of story…
Another for the electric viking to comment on😅
Those in 'Government' haven't got a bloody clue
If I wrote a story with governing bodies enforcing policies like this, people would say it was too unrealistic and unbelievable. Yet here we are.
I want net zero..........
Immigration
I'll use that line too , thx .
Exactly....Net Zero on immigration.
Careful what you wish for. Soon countries will be fighting over immigrants as population birth rates continue to plummet.
Totally agree.
So you are a nazi?
Can we stop exporting gas. We need it here in Australia.
We need export dollars and we have long term contracts with overseas buyers, so no, we can't stop exporting. Also, not all gas is exported, obviously.
Just look at Enron. They love instability and huge price swings.
This is engineered over demand with lack of supply. Aka profiteering.
Yes, Solar Panel owners here in Sweden who are connected to the grid have to PAY if they generate electricity on low demand hours. Another news from Sweden, Northvolt who makes EV Batteries says there is 5 times more batteries right now produced than is in demand. BMW have retracted one of their contracts for EV batteries also.
Here in Thailand the grid company don't like it either if you feed power into the grid when they don't want it....the answer is easy, just turn on a couple of extra air conditioners in the house to use the excess electricity....problem solved.
Government being shortsighted is not new.
You are 100% correct! Your electric bill will soon be larger than your mortgage payment!
Mine won't I have 10kW of solar panels on the roof...I don't even pay tax on the sunshine I use to make electricity.....and I paid cash for my house...never had a mortgage.
@@martinwalker9234 -- Nice, but not everyone is as fortunate. Also, it will take more than free electricity to survive after the price of energy goes through the roof!
Please refer to wind turbines by their proper name.... Bird Blenders. Thankyou
of course they are killing all the endagered species....sparrows and pigeons...who cares?
How many birds do wind turbines actually kill compared to the number of chickens, ducks etc. that are killed for human consumption? Also are these endangered species or just sparrows and pigeons?.... If you are on the subject of killing wild life how many species died during the Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon and the hundreds of spillages caused by the oil industry?
@@martinwalker9234 I'm not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic. I am not advocating for oil spills which actually happened in the US not Oz. The number of native birds and bats killed is significant though not as many as cats eat. Large projects in Oz are regularly stopped because the may kill a dozen or so native species. But if its a woke cause there is no limit on the number of native animals that can be killed.
Here's a thought. When the sun is shining and we don't need the solar power, turn those big fans on to cool the planet! Genius!
I know that is sarcasm, but fans don't actually cool the air, they just move it around. We feel cool when the air is moving if it is below body temperature.
This just means that governments are going to be taking your tax money (which will go up) to build and run EV charging stations.
Like they are doing now for maintaining gas stations?
@@Luka_3D I don't think they are doing that in my country yet ... but who knows.
Demand charging is one reason why charging stations intentionally throttle each charger down when multiple chargers are being used. I just watched a video of a charging station that could deliver 250 kW when only one or two chargers were being used but throttled the max power to 60 kW when all 8 chargers were being used. Not knowing if you're going to get 250 kW or 60 kW is totally unacceptable to most people - that's the difference between getting a 10 to 80% charge in 30 minutes (charging slows down above a 50% charge) or 2 hours.
We need reform, vote Reform👍
changing its name from the BNP to Reform, doesn't fool anyone with a fully functioning brain.
EV’s 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So, with the move away from base-load power production, what happens if the grid is knocked offline with all the "renewable energy" solar and wind farms attached? As in a true blackout. Is it going to be harder or easier to restart the grid with black-start plants while you've got all these variable and sporadic power generation plants hooked up, all while you have households and businesses sitting out there ready to suck in as much power as possible to charge EVs, run HVAC, power computer equipment, and all the other various electronic devices we have?
I like the way you have narrated this... a steady walk through the issues - highlighting the absurdity of it all 😂
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I agree that we need more nuclear power. Even the waste is manageable.
The entirety of nuclear waste ever created can fit on a basketball court.
No Nuclear power is a waste of money. Takes more than double the estimated time, and more than double cost. Projects last 10 years or more. Renewables are cheaper, low maintenance and projects take less than a year from start to being on line.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan renewables? Like oil?
Another weird thing about wind and solar is the way they push batteries as a solution to the intermittent supply problem, as if they always produce but not at full capacity so a few hours of battery charge can solve the problem.
In reality, we need to make sure we have power when regular weather events cause wind and solar to both shut down for days at a time. The only way to do this is excess supply from gas, oil, coal, or nuclear on the side.
Even worse, these crazy assumptions mean that they can theoretically solve the problem by building a lot more wind and solar, when it just means we have to shut some of them down when they’re working and we are no better off when they aren’t.
I wish they would start consulting and trusting trained engineers again.
ftgj it is possible to combine all this, with the single condition - martians send us HUGE money. So huge that it will be enough to build storages for several day demand, counting for 15B per (not the biggest, 2GW power and storage for 24h) pumped hydro and so on. Including local batteries on every fast charger, able to charge the whole day long and discharge instantly (30 min) into car batteries. Price tag for this happiness is roughly $2/kwh.
There's a serious arithmetic error at 4:38. 10 EVs for 15 minutes is NOT 1256kW x $16.65 = $20812.50. It's 1256kWH x $16.65 = $20812.50 / 4 = $5203.13. No-one on earth can buy a kW of electricity, they can only buy kWH.
This guys just a dickhead and wants to spew out what he wants to be true no matter how wrong he gets the math.
The demand charge is calculated on the average kW power drawn during the peak 15 minute period. (Just think of it as the peak power drawn during the billing period.) The energy usage charge is calculated based on total kW hours of energy consumption during the billing period. (Integral of power over billing period if you’re math oriented.)
Simply put, the demand charge is determined by the peak power drawn during the billing cycle.
Your point is OK but your numbers are wrong. Where I live energy is only $0.12 kwh. My son price (20 miles away) is $0.10 per kwh. In my case 1256 kwh X $.12 = $150.72 , NOT $5203.13. My ev has a 65KW battery, and if depleted to 0 it will cost $7.12 for a range of 266.5 miles. A gas car at 30 mpg with gasoline at $3.00 will cost $26.50 doing the same distance. The gasoline car is 3.74X more expensive without counting the extra distance going to a gas station, and the normal maintenance of an ICE car.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan Your point is OK but the cost of electricity at the peak demand time in the example is $16.65 per kwh. What you pay where you live is not relevant in this example.
No one seemed to understand the conundrum of the EU legislation to reduce our electric consumption by restrictions on lighting and electric goods, then at the same time instigating the transfer over to EVs.
It's almost like the politicians can't do math.
The cutting edge technology in solar energy is so sensitive now it can gather usable amounts of electricity from star-light!
TODAY WAS MY BDAY. SO LIT IM A BATTERY POWERED. CANT TAKE THAT BAC...
EV charging stations probably need to be hooked up to a nano reactor!
Ignorance is a bliss.
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan Blackout Bowen must be pretty blissful then!
You are 💯 right, net zero is impossible
In Germany spiked the MWh price to +15000 € and goes ito negative when there is too much solar and wind. So we buy energie for high price and pay to get rid of it thats how Solar and Wind works.
Australia has been subsidizing solar energy since 2007 ... 17 years ..... what has happened to the price electricity in 17 years .... the cheapest form of energy ?..
You need to say kilowatt hours not kilowatt at some points in your talk . A lawyer would agree , so would an engineer.
and MGUY comes across as neither of those too.
In countries where most people cannot afford cars only luxury cars and working vehicles, such as taxis and buses, exist. This is the future.
I’m not sure the demand charge issue is as big as the article maintains it is. For example, I think in the case of Tesla superchargers, 4 charging stalls share one 350 kW power supply so there wouldn’t be 4 - 350 kW surges. So the maximum demand is effectively capped by the total output of the hardware and each car demand is throttled.
It takes at least 10 years to get a nuclear plant built and operational and then of course they are going to take the same to get approved so we are looking at 20 years for every plant. Small nuclear plants are what we need and in a hurry and the LFTR seems to be the very thing. Built on a metal raft that can float with all the stuff that you need to generate electricity they could be mass produced but that is never going to happen as its far too sensible. How long does it take to build an oil tanker? 2 Years? Its probably about the same for an LFTR. An interchangeable solution that could be floated in and out and taken away for servicing. And its far safer too. Look it up on here.
There's a legal ban on nuclear power in Australia.
Sarcasm to follow. How to supply the energy to make a tesla super charger work. First buy a 250 KWatt diesel electric generator cost is about $30,000 US. You will need one for each tesla super charger, so it will only charge on car at a time. You will also need a large tank of diesel to supply the generator. You will have to hire some one to refill the diesel tank on some regular basis. If you are very clever you can tap into the local natural gas lines and run you generator off the natural gas. The natural gas will be cheaper than the diesel per unit of energy.
If you read the agreement in your new EV which you HAVE to agree to, if you don't you can't use car, BUT in the agreement, it states that Geo fencing can be used at any given time, basically it means that you're new EV at any point can be told to activate, and that you can ONLY go a set distance 🤯🤯, basically government control
Just wait until they implement the road tax that is going through the legislature as we speak.
The first thing those who rule should learn is that the climate is not something man can control, man can improve the environment to a certain limit without exterminating himself.
Also I have solar on my house, 6.3kw. I also have 1 Tesla powerwall 2, wish I could have gotten more but priced out unless your rich. Since I have dont that I have not had an Electric Bill from our over prices electricity company. We pay $0.39kw during the day, till 4pm, then we pay almost $0.70kw. During the summer I used to see a bill of over $600 a month for the 3-4 months. Now I see nothing. If I could have gotten another battery I could see even more cases where I dont need the grid at all.
Same here, I have 10kw on the roof, a 10kWh house battery and use the V2L function of my BYD seal to power my air conditioner from 5 pm to 8 am. Saves a huge amount of money.
*To MGUY Australia* You are wrong on one thing, you said demand is lowest at the middle of the day, the lowest usage is during the night, highest usage is from the hours of 8 am to 5 pm with some valleys through that time period. I live in Canada and we have time of day billing where the rates we pay for hydro change depending on what time of the day it is and guess what time period they charge the most for, 8 am to 5 pm and its because that is when hydro usage is the highest. They say its to encourage people to change their behavior to even our the power usage but businesses can't change their hours nor can industries and people's schedules are set that way for a reason so we know its for money.
I thought electricity woes could be helped by reducing the amount of electricity required, not increasing its usage? If homes were better insulated against the heat less electricity would be needed. As for transportation more efficient vehicles are needed not electric powered ones.
They will realise that the only solution is to limit the charging stations maximum current draw from the supply.
One EV car will be able to fast charge, but if ten are there at the same time, they will all be limited to very slow charging!
It is the only way to make it work.
you seem to have missed the point, most people who own an EV don't use fast public chargers....they charge from home at a fraction of the cost...that is the idea of owning an EV
@martinwalker9234 Most people who buy EVs live in city's, that is where the cars are at their best.
A significant number do not have a driveway.
Probably why sales have fallen sharply, the people without driveways do not want EVs, to much hassle charging.
London is full of EVs, a significant percentage of the cars on the road, out in the countryside where everyone has a driveway you hardly see an EV. Strange that fact, possibly due to the distances we drive.
Like I have always said the goal is not for everyone to own an EV
The goal is for the masses to own no vehicles at all
It is the only thing that makes sense
I heard today in the media that in Ireland, they have solar & wind power. But when there ain’t no sunshine(often!) & ain’t no wind, Ireland is plugged into France’s NUCLEAR power for backup!🤣
I thought that people like you, class anything in the media as lies.
you don't need sunshine to produce solar power, just daylight. I have 10 kW of solar on my roof which produce 2 to 3 kw when it is cloudy, more than enough to power my house. Even when it really over cast and raining I still get 1 kW, the same applies to large solar panel installations....you really need to read up on this stuff before you post
@@martinwalker9234 Oh really? WOW, who’d have thought? I didn’t say there was no benefit. All I said was in Ireland they need BACKUP on these days, as we would & do here. If you reckon we can be completely self sufficient on renewables you need to read up. A case, well two in point. I have had solar hot water panels for my industrial laundry for more than 30 years. In summer the temperature off those panels hits as high as 50-60C & gas usage drops by around 75-80%. I still have gas fired dryers. In winter its maximum is only 20C, if that, off the roof. Meaning I have to rely on gas, to attain water temperatures exceeding 50C. Gas costs increase substantially. Do you think industrial clothing will be cleaned up to standard with cold water? Simply put, no. I also have solar panels on my roof at home, feeding back into the grid. Again, in summer it’s great & the benefits are immense, as my electricity bill is very, very low, but in winter negligible.
"You literally couldn't make this kind of stuff up..."
Au contraire. "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" features an electric monk, a time-saving device that can believe all the contradictory things you hear. It saves time because you needn't bother sorting it all out. (suggested reading, by the way).
Notice bowen and co have stopped talking about batteries? but batteries are paramount to make sunbeams and farts work..... so why?
if anyone cares to do the calcs, average house uses 20kWh per day, double it for when no beams and no farts, then multiply by the houses in Australia that's needed storage JUST for houses, now double it to account for your EV, now pick a multiplier to do roads, transportation, hospitals, shopping centres, workplaces, manufacturing, etc. When you come to a impossibly big number, aim to do that every 10-15 years
It's often spruiked that the opposition to EV's is pushed by the mining industry.... It's almost like its the opposite
Supply and demand determines the price of everything including electricity, who would have thought ?
Please talk about backup storage.
The UK needs 30,000 gwh of backup, for renewables.
But by 2030 we will only have 50 gwh.
So only 29,950 gwh to build, by 2050.
And if it is not built, the lights will go out.
And you die…..
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Massive battery factory fire in S Korea, large fire in Paisley, Scotland, battery recycling plant, according to news videos.
have you ever seen in oil rig on fire? it is quite spectacular
@@martinwalker9234 Yes, all serious fires of any source need investigation for future prevention, regardless of energy source, including understanding the difference between battery or oil fires.
Perhaps the government should look at investing in nuclear energy for their base load to support the future increase in demand.
Was there any answer to the cooks beach fire in New Zealand
The government will step in and effectively transfer wealth to make this work either with government owned charging networks (taxpayer money) or regulating (limiting) what power generation companies can charge for public vehicle charging which will transfer demand power charges to other power users to remain profitable - either way the taxpayer will end up funding the bill as usual
Isn’t nuclear power going to solve the EV induced supply issue? Haven’t EV sales tanked to the point of irrelevance? Haven’t unaffordable insurance costs killed the EV dream? Aren’t EV‘s outlawed yet, because of all the fires that destroyed RoRo ships, ferries, car parks and apartment blocks? Isn’t rare earth and lithium too rare to produce enough EV‘s to worry about?
This is a religion, no need for practical considerations. Showing off to family and friends is way more important. "Look at me, I'm doing my bit to save the planet."
Let's not forget the also strain on the system from albo's extra 1,000,000 houses he and the socialist states plan to build (and despite numerous large home builders going bust of late).
Don’t forget the unsustainable demand on the grid by expected data center growth driven by AI compute power requirements.
if you are paying for this electricity as you should and the company doesn't SCAM orher customers to pay for your charging you will literally pay what $1000 per 100 miles if you charge in peak demand i mean if that's not cheap why would anyone want gas cars right
Government and thinking ya those two don't go together anymore that's why we have Net Zero and this beautiful world we live in today
Don't blame the government, blame the delusional voters who enable these politicians and their destructive policies. And they will vote for them again come the next election.
Electric Viking back from his all expenses paid First / Business Class trip from China.You're still stuck here .
If I ran EV chargers I would be gouging the hell out of the market. After all, it is a captive audience.
A made a career of designing and commissioning peak-demand power generating stations. A very profitable endeavor.
EVangelist will have to face the REAL cost of owning it.
The government, and political parties of all persuasions, is fully aware of the limitations of EVs in a country as massive as Australia. Plus its preponderance of geriatric Aussies travelling huge distances with their huge caravans and motorhomes and the country's dependence on ICE semi trailers for the delivery of everything. They know not much is going to change. But for political expediency they must appear to be doing something. It's about votes. Just like You Tubers, where it's about clicks.
".. The adults have entered the room .. the children can go fantasies outside.. " Welcome Peter, good bye Labor/ greens. bhj
Congratulations on being wrong again! EVs can use V2G to stabilize the grid and reduce or eliminate the need for peaker plants.
I'm finding out that these growing AI platforms also suck up massive amounts of electricity.. Nobody is talking about this power hungry platform.
Dude have you seen how much power miners take up? AI has nothing on that lol
That's why Aptera solar electric vehicle will work where other EV's fail. It uses 1/3 the power of a Tesla and can get up to 40 miles (64km) per day from solar alone. I only drive 20 miles round trip M-F so I will never have to plug into the grid.
Aptera is such an interesting car. Not just from the technical side. I love the tech that they are developing for it but also from a social stand point. I've seen a lot of people bash on evs but taking a liking to this ultra efficient car. Why do you think that is?
@@Luka_3D My personal reason is the augmentation of charging through solar just makes sense, not having to plug in is a huge plus. I also have a background in aerospace so I am especially offended at all the inefficient vehicles that keep getting produced (and bought). Aerodynamics are beautiful boxes and polygons, not so much 🙂
@@Mikey_Likes_It_Too Yeah I can't really deny that it's objectively just a better car. Even from the Right to Repair side it's just awesome and it uses OpenPilot! But alas.. Even though I'm an ev nut, I just can't stomach that shape yet. I'm still more of a Model S/ID.7 kind of guy with some more agressive lines.
@@Luka_3D Well shoot, if we all liked the same form factor we'd all be driving Lada's. There is a reason there are a hundred different types of ice cream, we all have different tastes and that's ok.
I can remember back in the 90s there was a push to stop electric products that have a stand by mode because of wasted energy and now they want us to charge cars that drain 10s of kilowatts. This world is nuts today
Battery charge is not wasted it is used, and is 4X more efficient than burning gasoline/diesel. This is a well proven FACT.
I’m glad ur doing the maths 😅
My Solar, Wind and Hydro powered 200k miles Model Y hasn't had any issues. SEE FOR YOURSELF...
I drive an EV because it's reliable and cheap to drive. It has nothing whatsoever to do with emissions.
Yes. Democrats seem to dislike nuclear as much as petroleum. Perhaps petroleum and nuclear energy don’t benefit their socialist mentors in China (as electricity capture products do). In any case, it is clear they desire to push forward with EV's and charging stations. Charging site owners will not bear the cost of high demand rates for EV charging. The logical conclusion is high demand charging costs will be measured and passed along to EV owners. It is a shocking revelation that energy operating costs for EV’s will ultimately be far more expensive (rather than far less expensive) than for gasoline vehicles.
China have plenty of nuclear power plants and the seem just as enamored with petroleum products as everyone else.
Net Zero , if you think about it , is less people , that is the end game.
One of the reasons why my partner and I chose not to have children . Guilt free living do what ever we want and have saved more footprint than all these people pumping out rug rats. Also means more money for us not wasted on little brats that don’t appreciate it .
@@unnamedchannel1237 If you think your lifestyle won't be affected , you are delusional.
I think Hamster Wheels are the way to go, yeah!?
Net Zero andcombustion engined cars are two totally IRRECONCILABLE policies.
That's not true. You just need to remove the same amount of CO2 from the atmosphere as is emitted by ICE vehicles. That's what net zero means.
they can get to net zero after a nuclear war........
I have 5 solar panels and 2 1000 CCA batteries. Also a put put generator. When the power goes out, not if... 😂 I am ready. 😂 are you? 🤯
What does green energy prove how dumb the politicians are or how dumb we are voting them in .
Nice update on charging stations needing to be profitable, so to pay for overhead and still make a profit they will need to just about double or triple the rate they pay utilities...talk about ripping off the customers...
make ev owners install there own windmills to charge the pieces of cr#p they drive
Making the rich richer.
AI and net zero are also not compatible.
So if Increase in EVs uptake decreases stability then so does building more houses and complexes with A/C.
This story is nothing more than FUD, most people charge at night or at a time when demand is at the least. Most people use 240 VAC/10A to charge an EV, so how can this demand be such a problem!
Since when does all the EVs charge at the same time??? NEVER.
I'm aiming for PoopZero.
I want to consume all I need and want, but without emitting any waste on the back side of the process.
Almost right it is "Farts & Photons"
Last year we had a few weeks of nice weather in the UK.
They found out that their solar panels didn't work in the sun, and our last remaining coal fired power station had to be fired up.
It's scheduled to be closed in September 2024, then we will be stuffed.
NSW plans to close its biggest coal plant, 2Gw from 12Gw state demand. Last year NSW grid almost collapsed, with some forced disconnections they managed to keep it up, with 2GW less generation at peak time 1900 collapse is imminent. With loud cries "renewables!!11 already produce 30%!!111".
Solar panels are not economical in cloudy upper latitude areas such as the UK. Wind turbines make little sense anywhere with the possible exception of remote polar regions.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
@johngeier8692
The reports were that they didn't work because they got too hot.
(But it was the UK main stream media, so who knows!!!)
Meanwhile Germany is in the process of building nine new coal fired power stations. They will burn Lignite, the filthiest fuel on the planet. Search online for the facts.
Well it finally happened to me. My friend came to me complaining he couldn't get anyone to buy his used EV car at anywhere near what he thought he should get for it. I didn't give him any sympathy. 7 thousand US tax payers dollars were given to him to help pay for it.
Trillions of tax payer money are used in the gasoline industry incentives so that the US has very cheap gasoline compared to most countries in the world Gasoline TRILLION, EV BILLION a factor of 1,000 (gas) to 1(ev)
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan bs tax breaks dont GIVE anyone ANY money.Next lame arguement?
@@EnriqueAThieleSolivanonly that isn’t actually true so there’s that.
This is why we are being made to have smart meters.
Variable price charging.
so much like economy 7 which has existed since the 1970;s?
@@dps615
No. It won't be fixed times like E7.
It will be changed instantly as and when the supplier decides
It's quite easy to understand the contradiction when you realise that the intention is not to get everyone to drive EVs but to stop most people driving at all. When we peasants are forced to give up our ICEs and are then trapped in our 15 minute ghettoes we can be more easily controlled, which is the real intention.
Completely agree. The whole idea that you will be able to charge and go wherever and whenever you want is fantasy. They have no intention of sorting out the charging, ever, in any country. They will however use the IP address of your EV to stop you driving or charging on certain days and will even lock you out of it remotely. This is all about control and as we already know nothing at all about CO2 or other green issues as an EV is neither clean nor green.
Ooh the 'they' want to stop us all driving conspiracy theory nonsense..what a victim of misinformation you are! Let me give you some facts. Home solar + EV = FREEDOM...cheap, cheap driving for the lifetime of you and your car without the need to make a slavish pilgrimage to the oil company place of prayer to hand over your hard earned cash to those poor oil companies, Putin, the Sheiks and those other lovely purveyors of poison. Next thing you need to know is that solar power is on its way to powering the entire planet, replacing not only coal and gas in electricity grids but primary energy too. If you want to understand this subject I recommend reading a detailed study in The Economist this week. To give you some perspective, the entire world installed 1 GwP of solar in 2004, by 2010 it was putting 1 GwP a month, by 2016 1 GwP a week and was providing 1% of global electricity. By 2022 solar hit 1,000 GwP (1 TwP) and was providing 4% of global electricity...this year the world has been installing 2 GwP per DAY and will hit 6% of global electricity. The world isn't running out of places to put panels and the raw materials for panel making are cheap and abundant, the $/watt price halved again last year and by the mid 2030's solar will be the biggest source of ALL our energy for driving, heating and cooling...and btw the price of static batteries has halved in the past 4 years and continues to fall. The FANTASY is that we can continue digging and rilling coal, oil and gas...which at current rates of consumption will all be gone in 80 to 100 years anyway.. so just be happy that you are living in a revolution where cheap, clean energy will be powering our economies into a sustainable future.
Exactly!
@@Acemeistre please explain
@@Acemeistre Sherlock Holmes: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.