I appreciate all these muslims who call in to these shows and honestly tell us what they believe, even telling us that they're actively questioning. You guys take the correct approach of letting them speak rather than arguing with them Great show!
Hey Apostate Aladdin. 👋🏼 Please take a look what I’ve posted in the comment section under this video. It is also direct at you. I want to educate the ex-Muslim community about this. Thanks.
I used believe in jinns when I was muslim, because it was considered as a normal part of reality. Everyone around me believed in jinns, and so it was never questioned. But since my family were the modern "scientific" type of muslims, they didn't believe in jinn possession and neither did I. I thought jinn possession was absurd, while not realising that the belief in jinns itself was absurd. I guess the point is that whatever is your childhood indoctrination seems normal to you, and whatever is outside of that is looked at with scepticism.
I never really thought about it that way. Everyone in my family believe in jinn but the same as you they don't believe in jinn possession. They still blame their bad attitude on jinn though lol.
A nice caller - her dad caring for his neighbour. It's a sweet story, looking out for a person who was suffering greatly. An intelligent lady who is prepared to look at things openly and compassionately; it warms my heart to hear this. And what a great dad! :)
Every Muslim, even the moderate, one I know believes in Jinns. So I don't know where this "My dear brother Ben" is talking about. I guess he has not read his Quran and Hadith.
@@LightSaber12345 You should not say that Shakeel, you're not a soul reader. If Islam is the Absolute Truth, then really, only God could judge that... And, you might be quite surprised who amongst humanity got into the fold. Blessings...
I had an experience whereby the street lights would randomly go out when I walked past. I talked to someone else about who was also turned out to be having the same experience. I think the answer is that they have wrongly wired some of the lights so they go out instead of turning on when they are meant to. However without this explanation it appeared paranormal.
I never have experience with the jinns. When i was muslim i always told not to go specific place in my village, because these places inhabited by jinns. But now i don't believe it, because i always pass one of the haunted area and nothing happened.
It’s everyone’s right to believe anything that they want. Personally, I find it hard to believe that there is an angel on each of my shoulders, little devils causing havoc in my life and a big devil who is whispering in my ear constantly.
i remember talking to a local artist on twitter years ago. the artist has a masters in science from a top university in my country and they believe in jinn possessions because of their father's anecdotal experience. tried to point that out and how harmful blaming the supernatural isn't helpful because it's used against mentally ill people as excuses. they had none of that and got very angry. which is surprising, they had a masters in science (publicly posted the cert) and a staunch liberal muslim who got doxxed at one point by other more conservative muslims. the artist is probably in late 20s/early 30s
Let's not forget that the last verse of the quran says... This book is written for mankind and "the jinns." This is because the quran recognizes the jinns that jinns are divided into muslim and non muslim jinns
An Orthodox Sunni Muslim doesn't believe in Jinn Possessions IS NOT A MUSLIM. There are so many hadiths about Jinns possessing Abdls. Peeing in the ears, sleeping in the nose, farting to distract from Adan, havin sex with women.....Here is a Q verse> “Then I will attack them (mankind) from the front, from behind them, and from their right, and from their left; and you will not find most of them appreciative.” [Surah Al-Araf 7:17]
What does watching a Jinn possession have to do with praying 5 times a day (whether you like it or not) and fasting for a month in Ramadan (whether you like it or not)? I don’t see the connection.
Jins are familiar spirits and are familiar with the languages of the people they bother. They also learn about people's relatives to pretend to be the person's dead relatives. This is often the case with people who invite these things by trying to contact the dead.
It's possible to peel back jinn lore from it's religious context and examine it without religion as a filter. Jinn lore has numerous parallels in various world cultures and is imo an attempt to come to terms with knowledge considered arcane or occulted but nevertheless a reality. I would encourage researchers not to throw it away too quickly lest you throw out the baby with the proverbial bathwater.
Islam defines itself as a monotheistic religion. The believe in Jinns is kind of a tribute Mohamed gave to his own polytheistic origins. It is essentially identical to the believe in 'spirits' which many ancient religions had or have
Jinns are part of satan family according to some sources. But it is strange that these creature can become follower of Muhammad or Muslim. Some of them are good, some are bad. And become more strange when these creature testify in surah Al djinn that quran recital of Muhammad was right.In christian jinns never be a follower or believer.
In Judaism and Christianity, the following five claims are made: (1) He who is eternally un-created is God. (2) The eternally un-created is the “Father” of all creations. (3) The Father of all creations did not create Himself. (4) The Father of all creations did not create His Word. (5) The Father of all creations did not create His Spirit. * Therefore; there are three who are eternally un-created: (1) God, (2) Word of God, and (3) Spirit of God. But God is different from His Word; and God is also different from His Spirit. In order to maintain and to remain true to the formula of monotheism, Judaism and Christianity also hold true to the following claim: “The three who are eternally un-created (God, His Word, and His Spirit) are also eternally joined together as one and the same God.” This claim is known in Christianity as the “Trinity” - The Blessed Three-in-One: (1) The Father, (2) The Word of the Father, and (3) The Spirit of the Father. * Islam sees it differently. Islam accuses Judaism and Christianity of “Shirk” - the un-forgivable sin of joining partners such as the joining of “God’s Word” to God, and the joining of “God’s Spirit” to God. Thus, Islam introduced the “Tawhid” - the “Oneness of Allah” which eternally separates partnerships from Allah - partnerships such as the joining of Allah to his words, and the joining of Allah to his spirit. * Both the Bible and the Quran speak about Baal - the three-foot stone god (idol) of the Canaanites. Baal had words which his worshippers obeyed. Baal’s words demanded infant sacrifices. But Baal could not speak his own words; because Baal’s words are eternally separated from Baal. So, too, are the powers of Baal. Baal could not exercise his powers, because they (Baal’s powers) are eternally separated from Baal. * There are many similarities between Allah and Baal. Both Allah and Baal are each “one and only” in the sense that there are no other gods known to mankind or in existence who bear the name “Allah” or “Baal”; and neither one of them (Allah or Baal) “begets”, nor is “begotten” - because a stone (or a moon) which is lifeless and un-spirited cannot beget, nor can be begotten. Not only are both Allah and Baal’s words and spirits eternally separated from them, but there are no miracles (signs and wonders) recorded in their names. When challenged by the Hebrew Prophet, Elijah, at Mount Carmel, Baal could not perform miracles for his 400 prophets. [See Bible: 1st Kings 18:20-40.] Allah did not accompany (escort) his prophet, Muhammed, with miracles. Interestingly, when a god is eternally separated from his words and from his powers, he is both dumb (speechless) and important (powerless) even though his worshippers may (or may not) attribute to him words and powers. * By accusing Jews and Christians of “Shirk” - the joining of God to His Word and God to His Spirit as one and the same God, Muslims have risen up Baal, the speechless and powerless stone idol of the Canaanites, from extinction and have given him a new name - the name “Allah”.
Wow, some interesting points there. However, you forget, there are numerous Christian groups which don't believe in the Trinity, as well as, numerous Christian mystics and scientists. Sir Isaac Newton (IQ estimated to be 20 above Einstein's), filled out ten million words in his notebooks - on religious and biblical topics - that's 150 novels worth! He read Koine Greek, Latin, Aramaic and Hebrew - Sir Issac wasn't convinced about the Trinity either. Newton was obsessed with that very subject, though he was too frightened to speak about his beliefs at the time - they were recorded in his diaries in secret. Universalist Christians and Jehovah Witnesses aren't convinced by the Trinity either, and many of the Quakers swing both ways. You just can't speak for all Christians, the points are subtle, and ultimately, does God care? You can give cogent and intelligent arguments for both positions. Is God, so pathetically weak, that He is going to be hurt and angry, because you accidently picked the wrong side of the fence to sit on? Also, Allah is the Arabic contraction of the Aramaic word Alaha - the same name Christ used for God. The laws in the Koran are lifted straight from the Pentateuch and Talmud, particularly, Deuteronomy and Leviticus. You might say, Mohammad didn't believe Christ was crucified, well neither did the Docetic Christians, which would make Islam a Christian sect with Jewish law. The medieval poet, Dante, took it for granted that Mohammad was a Christian schismatist - a view, which was popular at that time. Mohammad called Jesus both the 'Messiah' and the 'Word of God', again, Christian specific language, which began when Christians accepted his alleged prophethood, making Mohammad a Christian Reformer. Both Muslims and Christians would be uncomfortable with that language, but that's the history! His first wife was a Christian and so were others in his family. Maybe, Newton's soul is blazing in Hell for his burning enthusiasm for trying to sincerely understand the Bible, and the numerical codes contained in its gematria? Personally, I find myself on the side of Newton, though, I suppose you could argue God has masculine, feminine and neuter qualities too - at least symbolically, if not even textually. But, I suppose if you get to the very Godhead, it transcends all dualities and triplicities. The thirteenth century theologian, Earhart, maintained God was an All-Intelligent, "super-celestial nothingness": Pure Transcendental Power and Potential. God was so unified, He was even beyond the number one. There are a lot of opinions and a lot of subtleties my friend. There is an esoteric tradition in Christian circles, which historically worshipped unity, and in some groups, the Divine Feminine was also important. A number of medieval mystics believed the Holy Spirit gave salvation and not Christ. Historically, some of these groups were repressed. Jesus said it best, 'Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One.' The word three is definitely missing from the mouth of Christ - it is simply not in his formulation of the Shema. Sure, you may disagree, well you can quote an Epistle, but the Apostle Paul was a disciple of Jesus - not the Master Himself. Things are not black and white, they are subtle and nuanced, my friend. For me, the Logos-Christos, Spirit and Father, are all synonyms for One God, just as scarlet, crimson, vermillion are synonyms for red. But that's just me. Many of the Bible's authors can't agree, because, many of them are writing from different schools of Judaism - just as a democrat and Republican can't agree on party politics, and yet, both have a flavour of democracy. Numerous biblical authors differ on questions such as dietary laws, circumcision, and the teachings of the afterlife. If you take the Bible as the Absolute Authority then it is impossible to resolve these issues, you just have to pick the author you like and go with that. For instance, the brother of Christ, James, disagrees with Paul, there can be no be no entering Heaven without kind works, whereas, Paul believes: "belief" in Jesus Christ trumps even good works. There is no absolute, total agreement by the biblical authors, though there seems to be a general consensus on God's Omniscience, and Sacred Presence. It's just not that black and white... And, maybe that is a good thing. Every man has to walk his own path. Your path maybe different to mine, and yet, both may lead to same Light... And ultimately, there is only the Light. Blessings from the UK.
@@michaeldantepoet9863 Well, I must admit, you raised a lot of points in order to school me on theology and history. It will take me a lot of time to address each one of your contentious points. And time? It is what I have not much of it. Please forgive me. However, I am interested in the following claim that you made. You wrote, “Jesus said it best, 'Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One.' The word three is definitely missing from the mouth of Christ - it is simply not in his formulation of the Shema. Sure, you may disagree, well you can quote an Epistle, but the Apostle Paul was a disciple of Jesus - not the Master Himself. Things are not black and white, they are subtle and nuanced, my friend.” * What is your understanding of the word “one” as it is written in Jesus’ statement: “Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One?”
@@michaeldantepoet9863 About a year ago, I wrote the following in “Defense for the Trinity” and posted it in many TH-cam comment blocks (sections). I thought you might find it interesting. Grant it - it does not address your assertions that Sir Isaac Newton, Universalists, and Jehovah Witnesses are not convinced of the Trinity. But rather it takes into account that in terms of dealing with the metaphysics (spirit, unseen, invisible) ream, one must account for a new reality. Please respond if you must. * The founding fathers of the United States Constitution have done for mankind a great favor. They founded a government that resembles and operates like their God - “The Holy Trinity”, “The Blessed Three-in-One”. The followings are 12 similarities (resemblances) between God the U.S. Government: * (1) God is a Spirit - cannot be seen or touched. The U.S. Government is a spirit - cannot be seen or touched. * (2) We read about God on papers - the Bible. We read about the U.S. Government on papers - the United States Constitution. * (3) God not only creates, He also destroys. The U.S. Government not only creates, it also destroys. * (4) God makes Laws to govern His people. The U.S. Government makes Laws to govern its people. * (5) God has the powers to forgive and to restore His enemies. The U.S. Government has the powers to forgive and to restore its enemies. * (6) God can work His wills in and through the lives of people. The U.S. Government can work its wills in and through the lives of people. * (7) God is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of God’ there are three different Natures (Persons): (1) Father, (2) Word / Son of God, and (3) Spirit of God. The U.S. Government is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of the U.S. Government’ there are three different natures (governments): (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government. * (8) God has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Father says, “I am God.” (2) The Word / Son of God says, “I am God.” (3) The Spirit of God says, “I am God.” The U.S. Government has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Executive Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (2) The Legislature Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (1) The Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” * (9) The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible revealed God as a “trinity” in whose “oneness’” the three different Natures (Persons) of God are co-existing and are co-equal. The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the United States Constitution, but the United States Constitution revealed the U.S. Government as a “trinity” in whose “oneness” the three different natures (governments) of the U.S. Government are co-existing and are co-equal. * (10) {John 3:16} God took one of His three Natures called “Word of God”, clothed or covered Him in human skin (Jesus), and sent Him into the world to save lives. The U.S. Government took one of its three natures called “Executive Branch of Government”, clothed or covered it in human skin (soldiers/militaries/CIA/ambassadors), and sent them into the world (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan) to save lives. * (11) Throughout the Bible, it is the Father who decreed redemption (freedom) for His people, it is the Word / Son of God who purchased (paid for) redemption with His Life on the Cross, and it is the Holy Spirit who applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples. Throughout the United States Constitution, it is the Legislature Branch of Government that decreed redemption (freedom) for its people, it is the Executive Branch of Government that purchased (pays for) redemption with their lives on the battlefields, and it is the Judicial Branch of Government that applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples. * (12) Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the LORD, our God is one LORD.” But God is a Trinity - a single unseen Spirit (Entity) with three different “Centers of Consciousness”. Deuteronomy 6:4 could also be read, “Hear O American people, the government, our U.S. Government is one government.” But the U.S. Government is a trinity - a single unseen spirit (entity) with three different “Centers of Consciousness”. * The disclaimer: God, unlike the U.S. Government, is unique in three ways: (1) God is Omniscient (All-knowing) - the U.S. Government is not omniscient, (2) God is Omnipotent (All-Powerful) - the U.S. Government is not omnipotent, and (3) God is Omnipresence (All-Present) - the U.S. Government is not omnipresence.
@@123dsj123 I like the article you wrote. I never thought of the foundling fathers setting up the constitution according to the principles of the Trinity - it's an imaginative idea, and sounds quite plausible to me. You made some sharp observations on your part. * I feel we are riding on the same train, though, not necessarily the same carriage. * I agree, the three aspects of God are Omniscience, Omnipotence and omnipresence, which if you like, you can describe as a divine trinity. For me, these three qualities are synonyms for Sacred Unity, just as vermillion, scarlet and crimson are synonyms for red. * However, this is where I depart a little from your observation. You say, God has three 'centres of consciousness'. I would disagree with the wording of that. From my perspective, God is less like a Borromean knot and more like an open circle. In this open circle, God can be seen as an animator, preserver and destroyer of forms, though the forms in themselves, manifest only as appearances in the One Light. In truth, lifeforms are vibrations of that One Light or the Undying Logos. Even the material objects themselves, are fashioned from this Light of Knowingness: Pure Intelligence without name or form - animates all names and forms through the illuminating Power of the Spirit.. * The Spirit of God is infinite, which is a logical premise, one can infer, from the conclusions you drew about God's nature. You said, God was both omnipresent and omniscient. Therefore, by mathematical necessity, the centre of infinity is everywhere, and so, the consciousness of God is in you, as Christ said, 'I and the Father are one.' A profound observation by Jesus who understood where the centre was i.e. in himself, but this self-same centre is also in you! * God's consciousness being omniscience itself, looks through the eyes of all beings. In truth, it is one essence, which animates all substances, hence, all points of view exist within it. Yet the Light which illuminates these points of view, like an eye, cannot turn its focus around to look at itself, yet everything, appearing in its view is integrated into its own Unity, which in itself, is beyond time and space. A paradox indeed, for the eye of God, incorporates all points of view, yet, is limited by none, for it's the very Source from which all points of view arise! Yet in itself, it has no point of view. Existing beyond the mind, it animates all minds out of its Pure Presence: the Unity of Knowingness which is integrated through its Spirit. * There are as as may centres as there are beings in the universe, yet, in essence, each centre is given it's life and being through that one Parental Principle - the Father of All. Father in Latin is Pater, which is the root of the word pattern. God the Father, therefore, is the Patterner of all Patterns - Creator of the Cosmos. * God appears immanently as forms when manifested through the Logos and can be felt as Pure Presence I AM. You cannot separate the creation from Consciousness. Life appears in the I AM, and in essence, knows itself as I AM. Look for yourself, is this not true? For we all share the same Name of God - I AM or simply 'I', which is the eternal beingness of our nature, which is sensed by everything which lives. To intuit God, is to sense your own Presence beyond name and form, beyond even, anything conceived or perceived. It is to know that another's presence is your own. That is Love - the openness of Jesus' message. * There are no points of view which exist outside of this Consciousness or Spirit, indeed, all points of view exist because there is this Universal Principle of Consciousness, which immanently manifests in life, as life, through life - yet in essence, is One Eternal Life. Show me any object that exists independently from the light of consciousness? All times and places are lit up by this Single Principle of Consciousness - this One, Eternal Light. Consciousness or Spirit is primary, and without it, there is no creation, no life and no viewpoint. All objects appear in the Single Principle of Consciousness, whether, the object is in this world or another. Therefore, God is omnipotent because it illuminates every experience. In essence, He animates all things, in all times and all places. He is Transcendental Unity or the ground of all being. God is the fundament. I use the traditional pronoun He, but that is inappropriate, for God exists beyond the categories of gender, but may manifest as either. * The three three persons of Godhood, 'I', 'you' and 'he' are singular in essence, i.e. from one uncreated, Virgin Source. You might say, they appear immanently as a trinity of substances, but in essence they are One, just as ice, liquid and vapour are One. Genesis uses the Magisterial Pronoun when describing God i.e. 'we,' which in English is also 'one'. This is because all points of view exist in God, because, without God there is no life, no consciousness and no experience. As Jesus said, 'I and the Father are one.' Therefore understand that this also applies to you too. Life is ever resurrecting because the One Light cannot die for the Source of that Light emanates from beyond time and space. * The full spectrum of viewpoints throughout all of creation are really one. In substance they appear multiple, in essence, they are unified through a Single Power. Just as red and blue appear as different, but are refractions from the One Light. Because this mystery cannot be comprehended by the human mind, we can say, the Godhead exists, beyond time, beyond space, and beyond even viewpoint, and yet, when manifesting through the Logos, Divinity exists in all times, all places and animates all life. God is inescapable. The Logos is the Principle of Intelligence which shines in all beings. Therefore, God incorporates all viewpoints, indeed, he is living information, and beyond that He is the knowledge of I AM. Pure Mystery and sheer Majesty. * I enjoyed your article. I thought it was good, and I have to say, it was quite perceptive of you to have noticed these things in the Constitution. I never looked at it that way and found your observations quite engaging. Full points for your original thinking!
This is the question i had to my muslim friends, help me out on this. How is that you ask help from God, then also ask help from the jinn of this world? Jinn is satan. And to top that, you claim to worship the God of Moses. Do you really know the God of Moses?
The Ben guy is denying jinns which means he is denying an aspect of the faith. His Imaan is very low and he shouldn't speak like that. Plus he is wrong.
Totally .. I am surprised when some of these callers said .. they are sunni muslims but they don't believe in Jinns . Believing in Jinns .. is part of believing in Islam . As far of my understanding of Islamic theology . Now off course from an unlislamic scientific point of view .. there is no reason to believe in Jinns .
@My Dear Brother Ben actually if you do a survey you'll see most Muslims do believe in Jinns specially here in the Muslim world . We have numerous muslims in our villages who claim to witness Jinns . Usually they say .. Jinns look like "blue fire" . And the fire moves from one place to another in a second . From ground to the top of the tree etc . Could be underground gas I think .
A saying goes: Beware of the ones who claim to know HE who created the Heavens and the Earth, they will have a godly appearance and talk eloquent with there words however when they call upon the Lord they sound like Mosquitos. They know not the Lord of Lords. Verily they have been misguided by a Praised Man who has descended from a respected lineage from the Desert.
*NOTE*: I have attempted to post my comment twice but it just disappears. I think it is because of the multiple links it contains. I am reposting it again below, but this time it will be without any links, however I will include the name of the channel owner and the video titles of the links. Djinn catching is a reality. There is *sufficient* evidence for its phenomenon. At some future point I intend to put out a challenge to the ex-Muslim community to experience for *themselves* the practice of Djinn catching. If nothing happens I will pay the participant $1k, but if something *does* happen they will be required to put up the footage of their experience on their YT channel for all to witness; it can be made a contractual agreement. For a person who actively disputes the reality of the Djinn or Djinn catching, it is fair to say that it would be a reflection of their emotional dishonesty to not accept the challenge. There is a man named Abderraouf Ben Halima who is a decade-long veteran in the practice called “Ruqya,” which formally means incantation, summoning the Djinns and demons by invoking the name of God by reciting verses from the Qur’an. As the text is able to summon demonic entities at will, the Qur’an also appears to serve as a book of spells. What is more terrifying, however, is that the Djinn admit to deceiving otherwise innocent people from the straight path so that they end up in hell, and in accordance with the Qur’an, God has permitted all of this deception to take place. Here is a disconcerting session that I urge you to watch at time stamp 1:09:00 - 1:10:00: “Djinn catching for industrial use of human bodies, Satanism and galaxy” Being a Djinn catcher, Ben Halima summons these entities into a non-possessed body, using incantations from the Qur’an to control the Djinn, destroy spells, break evil pacts and compel the Djinn to convert to the religion of Islam. In his conversations with these Djinns, you will find that distinctly Islamic concepts are confirmed throughout (e.g. stars used as missiles to chase away demons trying to snatch information from the angelic realm, heaven / hell, the muslim / kafir labelling, leading mankind astray, etc.) Here is just a sample list of compelling sessions from a vast catalogue: In the following link, he summons the Djinns of public figures who engage in the worship of Satan and perform sorcery. E.g. time stamp: 45:30 - 46:50 “preachers for Satan Ben 24 abderaouf” In this video, he summons the Djinns for the attacks that occurred in France: “Capatge des djinns pour la situation” A session that concerns the origin of the Coronavirus: “Corona 8 Questions Ben Halima” A session that concerns the publication of demonic books for children and the deep network of Satanism within Masonic lodges and politics: “Catching for children’s book of demons” And finally, a session that reveals how visitation of the tombs of saints, shrines and temples is a hotbed for Djinn activity and linked to the Islamic concept of Shirk: “Grand captage pour le tombbeaux” If you explore the rest of the content on his channel which spans over 7 years, you will not find anything that exposes him as a fraud. Judge for yourself. Having followed him for a while, it wouldn't make any sense to think so. He teaches the practice of Ruqya to students and has already set up multiple Ruqya centres around the world to facilitate the practice of Djinn-catching. Here is his TH-cam channel name: Abderraouf Ben Halima His website is can be found online by typing his name in the Google search engine. In the navigation bar on the site you’ll find an extensive list of Ruqya healers all over the world. If it works for others then it simply can’t be fraudulent. If you just take a look at his channel, you would be hard pressed to find anything disingenuous. Finally, I want to clarify that I am an ex-Muslim myself as I am still in the phase of exploration and reconciliation with other conflicting phenomena for which there also exists substantial evidence [e.g. past life regression, life between lives regression and holographic kinetics; I encourage you to check it out, particularly the in-depth research of Richard Martini]. I appreciate you taking the time to go through all this, I am aware that it is a lot to digest. It is certainly all very frightening and the conflicting nature of evidences does not inspire emotional calm. But the principle of intellectual integrity *demands* that it be explored and taken seriously. Thanks.
@search4truth Thanks for sharing that verse. Eye-opening. Empirical evidence constitutes experimental procedure founded upon sense experience that is consistent and reproducible, as a way to reliably counter a proposition. This is precisely what I have suggested.
@@quiestwho4363 study Occam's razor and look at the term agnostic atheist.Why do you have to combine atheism with agnosticism? By saying agnostic atheist,you are saying only atheism exists and agnosticism (used as an adjective) is a feature of it Does not it sound dogmatic to you ?
@@gorajoo2975 it is important to know what people mean when they say that they are atheists or agnostics or agnotic atheist. You know the strawman fallacy right ? If you ask Sameer the question "what do you mean by that ?", he will tell you that he is atheist in the sens that he dosn't believe in the god existence, and agnostic in the sens the sens that he dosn't know if a god exist. That's all. No need to go read philosophy books as you see.
I appreciate all these muslims who call in to these shows and honestly tell us what they believe, even telling us that they're actively questioning. You guys take the correct approach of letting them speak rather than arguing with them
Great show!
Thanks bro! ✋
Yup.. some arent very accommodating nowadays
Hey Apostate Aladdin. 👋🏼 Please take a look what I’ve posted in the comment section under this video. It is also direct at you. I want to educate the ex-Muslim community about this. Thanks.
Yes, it's a refreshing change
As a Chinese, I'm so honoured to know that Jinns speak our language.
hahahahahahahhahaha
@@FriendlyExmuslim i mean, it makes perfect sense, Allah speaks Arabic, but jinns speak Chinese.
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Chicken noodles must be its favourite food.
I used believe in jinns when I was muslim, because it was considered as a normal part of reality. Everyone around me believed in jinns, and so it was never questioned. But since my family were the modern "scientific" type of muslims, they didn't believe in jinn possession and neither did I. I thought jinn possession was absurd, while not realising that the belief in jinns itself was absurd.
I guess the point is that whatever is your childhood indoctrination seems normal to you, and whatever is outside of that is looked at with scepticism.
I never really thought about it that way. Everyone in my family believe in jinn but the same as you they don't believe in jinn possession. They still blame their bad attitude on jinn though lol.
I wish you well my friend. I hope yo are safe and happy. Blessings from the UK.
A nice caller - her dad caring for his neighbour. It's a sweet story, looking out for a person who was suffering greatly. An intelligent lady who is prepared to look at things openly and compassionately; it warms my heart to hear this. And what a great dad! :)
WOW! I always enjoy these videos Abdullah, thank you!
The only Jinn I have seen was in a bottle.
Hydrojinn and Oxyjinn
There are Jinns!
The closest companion of the cult founder
was a Jinn ...
Yes, it pretended to be the angel Gabriel.
Every Muslim, even the moderate, one I know believes in Jinns. So I don't know where this "My dear brother Ben" is talking about. I guess he has not read his Quran and Hadith.
If you don't believe in Jinns then you're not Muslim.
@@LightSaber12345 You should not say that Shakeel, you're not a soul reader. If Islam is the Absolute Truth, then really, only God could judge that... And, you might be quite surprised who amongst humanity got into the fold. Blessings...
Jinns or Demons, it’s always fascinating that people believes in them.
But to believe in them and not possessions are a new one for me.
I had an experience whereby the street lights would randomly go out when I walked past. I talked to someone else about who was also turned out to be having the same experience. I think the answer is that they have wrongly wired some of the lights so they go out instead of turning on when they are meant to. However without this explanation it appeared paranormal.
exactly! There's always a much more plausible explanation that we can look to without invoking the supernatural
I never have experience with the jinns. When i was muslim i always told not to go specific place in my village, because these places inhabited by jinns. But now i don't believe it, because i always pass one of the haunted area and nothing happened.
Jinns and chinese? This must be a translation error.
Because Jinns only understand Arabic ;)
haha
china is jinn fav vacation spot man .jinn also need to travel to release some stress 🤣😂
I believe in Jinns.
Blue jinns, black jinns.
I particularly like Levi's but can tolerate True Religion and some other ones.
It’s everyone’s right to believe anything that they want. Personally, I find it hard to believe that there is an angel on each of my shoulders, little devils causing havoc in my life and a big devil who is whispering in my ear constantly.
It's always great to see that we can have a civilized conversation ^^
Thank you Abdullah Sameer/Gondal & Patata Potato ;-)
The only Jin I have ever heard of was profit Muhammad
They claim that jinns can talk any language after they possessed over the particular person and use his or her linguistic experience
i remember talking to a local artist on twitter years ago. the artist has a masters in science from a top university in my country and they believe in jinn possessions because of their father's anecdotal experience. tried to point that out and how harmful blaming the supernatural isn't helpful because it's used against mentally ill people as excuses. they had none of that and got very angry. which is surprising, they had a masters in science (publicly posted the cert) and a staunch liberal muslim who got doxxed at one point by other more conservative muslims. the artist is probably in late 20s/early 30s
Pakistani believe, last Sunday I was sitting with group of Pak Drs, one said Jews/Israeli getting there knowledge/Tech from Jinns. 🤦♂️
Somebody must have been talking to the Jinns (on the quiet) to learn this secret information, lol
Let's not forget that the last verse of the quran says... This book is written for mankind and "the jinns." This is because the quran recognizes the jinns that jinns are divided into muslim and non muslim jinns
An Orthodox Sunni Muslim doesn't believe in Jinn Possessions IS NOT A MUSLIM. There are so many hadiths about Jinns possessing Abdls. Peeing in the ears, sleeping in the nose, farting to distract from Adan, havin sex with women.....Here is a Q verse> “Then I will attack them (mankind) from the front, from behind them, and from their right, and from their left; and you will not find most of them appreciative.” [Surah Al-Araf 7:17]
But how in surah Al djinn these creature can testify and justify that quran recital is right thing?
She’s definitely going to leave Islam. She’s too logical!
What does watching a Jinn possession have to do with praying 5 times a day (whether you like it or not) and fasting for a month in Ramadan (whether you like it or not)? I don’t see the connection.
Jins are familiar spirits and are familiar with the languages of the people they bother. They also learn about people's relatives to pretend to be the person's dead relatives. This is often the case with people who invite these things by trying to contact the dead.
So what does a jinn do if it can't take possession of you?
I'll take the jinn as long as you provide the tonic as well!
It's possible to peel back jinn lore from it's religious context and examine it without religion as a filter. Jinn lore has numerous parallels in various world cultures and is imo an attempt to come to terms with knowledge considered arcane or occulted but nevertheless a reality. I would encourage researchers not to throw it away too quickly lest you throw out the baby with the proverbial bathwater.
Jinn came from the imagination of Muhammad just like Jibril and the winged horse.
Islam defines itself as a monotheistic religion. The believe in Jinns is kind of a tribute Mohamed gave to his own polytheistic origins.
It is essentially identical to the believe in 'spirits' which many ancient religions had or have
Are jinns and demons considered the same thing in Islam, or different things?
Jinns are part of satan family according to some sources. But it is strange that these creature can become follower of Muhammad or Muslim. Some of them are good, some are bad. And become more strange when these creature testify in surah Al djinn that quran recital of Muhammad was right.In christian jinns never be a follower or believer.
Jinns were a figment of Muhammad's imagination.
Actually jinns also exis in bible, but the difference jinns in bible is considered evil and never become a follower of God or to become a believer.
yes they do, pretty seriously they do
In Judaism and Christianity, the following five claims are made: (1) He who is eternally un-created is God. (2) The eternally un-created is the “Father” of all creations. (3) The Father of all creations did not create Himself. (4) The Father of all creations did not create His Word. (5) The Father of all creations did not create His Spirit.
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Therefore; there are three who are eternally un-created: (1) God, (2) Word of God, and (3) Spirit of God. But God is different from His Word; and God is also different from His Spirit. In order to maintain and to remain true to the formula of monotheism, Judaism and Christianity also hold true to the following claim: “The three who are eternally un-created (God, His Word, and His Spirit) are also eternally joined together as one and the same God.” This claim is known in Christianity as the “Trinity” - The Blessed Three-in-One: (1) The Father, (2) The Word of the Father, and (3) The Spirit of the Father.
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Islam sees it differently. Islam accuses Judaism and Christianity of “Shirk” - the un-forgivable sin of joining partners such as the joining of “God’s Word” to God, and the joining of “God’s Spirit” to God. Thus, Islam introduced the “Tawhid” - the “Oneness of Allah” which eternally separates partnerships from Allah - partnerships such as the joining of Allah to his words, and the joining of Allah to his spirit.
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Both the Bible and the Quran speak about Baal - the three-foot stone god (idol) of the Canaanites. Baal had words which his worshippers obeyed. Baal’s words demanded infant sacrifices. But Baal could not speak his own words; because Baal’s words are eternally separated from Baal. So, too, are the powers of Baal. Baal could not exercise his powers, because they (Baal’s powers) are eternally separated from Baal.
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There are many similarities between Allah and Baal. Both Allah and Baal are each “one and only” in the sense that there are no other gods known to mankind or in existence who bear the name “Allah” or “Baal”; and neither one of them (Allah or Baal) “begets”, nor is “begotten” - because a stone (or a moon) which is lifeless and un-spirited cannot beget, nor can be begotten. Not only are both Allah and Baal’s words and spirits eternally separated from them, but there are no miracles (signs and wonders) recorded in their names. When challenged by the Hebrew Prophet, Elijah, at Mount Carmel, Baal could not perform miracles for his 400 prophets. [See Bible: 1st Kings 18:20-40.] Allah did not accompany (escort) his prophet, Muhammed, with miracles. Interestingly, when a god is eternally separated from his words and from his powers, he is both dumb (speechless) and important (powerless) even though his worshippers may (or may not) attribute to him words and powers.
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By accusing Jews and Christians of “Shirk” - the joining of God to His Word and God to His Spirit as one and the same God, Muslims have risen up Baal, the speechless and powerless stone idol of the Canaanites, from extinction and have given him a new name - the name “Allah”.
Wow, some interesting points there. However, you forget, there are numerous Christian groups which don't believe in the Trinity, as well as, numerous Christian mystics and scientists. Sir Isaac Newton (IQ estimated to be 20 above Einstein's), filled out ten million words in his notebooks - on religious and biblical topics - that's 150 novels worth! He read Koine Greek, Latin, Aramaic and Hebrew - Sir Issac wasn't convinced about the Trinity either. Newton was obsessed with that very subject, though he was too frightened to speak about his beliefs at the time - they were recorded in his diaries in secret.
Universalist Christians and Jehovah Witnesses aren't convinced by the Trinity either, and many of the Quakers swing both ways. You just can't speak for all Christians, the points are subtle, and ultimately, does God care? You can give cogent and intelligent arguments for both positions. Is God, so pathetically weak, that He is going to be hurt and angry, because you accidently picked the wrong side of the fence to sit on?
Also, Allah is the Arabic contraction of the Aramaic word Alaha - the same name Christ used for God. The laws in the Koran are lifted straight from the Pentateuch and Talmud, particularly, Deuteronomy and Leviticus. You might say, Mohammad didn't believe Christ was crucified, well neither did the Docetic Christians, which would make Islam a Christian sect with Jewish law. The medieval poet, Dante, took it for granted that Mohammad was a Christian schismatist - a view, which was popular at that time. Mohammad called Jesus both the 'Messiah' and the 'Word of God', again, Christian specific language, which began when Christians accepted his alleged prophethood, making Mohammad a Christian Reformer. Both Muslims and Christians would be uncomfortable with that language, but that's the history! His first wife was a Christian and so were others in his family.
Maybe, Newton's soul is blazing in Hell for his burning enthusiasm for trying to sincerely understand the Bible, and the numerical codes contained in its gematria? Personally, I find myself on the side of Newton, though, I suppose you could argue God has masculine, feminine and neuter qualities too - at least symbolically, if not even textually. But, I suppose if you get to the very Godhead, it transcends all dualities and triplicities.
The thirteenth century theologian, Earhart, maintained God was an All-Intelligent, "super-celestial nothingness": Pure Transcendental Power and Potential. God was so unified, He was even beyond the number one.
There are a lot of opinions and a lot of subtleties my friend. There is an esoteric tradition in Christian circles, which historically worshipped unity, and in some groups, the Divine Feminine was also important. A number of medieval mystics believed the Holy Spirit gave salvation and not Christ. Historically, some of these groups were repressed.
Jesus said it best, 'Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One.' The word three is definitely missing from the mouth of Christ - it is simply not in his formulation of the Shema. Sure, you may disagree, well you can quote an Epistle, but the Apostle Paul was a disciple of Jesus - not the Master Himself. Things are not black and white, they are subtle and nuanced, my friend.
For me, the Logos-Christos, Spirit and Father, are all synonyms for One God, just as scarlet, crimson, vermillion are synonyms for red. But that's just me. Many of the Bible's authors can't agree, because, many of them are writing from different schools of Judaism - just as a democrat and Republican can't agree on party politics, and yet, both have a flavour of democracy. Numerous biblical authors differ on questions such as dietary laws, circumcision, and the teachings of the afterlife. If you take the Bible as the Absolute Authority then it is impossible to resolve these issues, you just have to pick the author you like and go with that. For instance, the brother of Christ, James, disagrees with Paul, there can be no be no entering Heaven without kind works, whereas, Paul believes: "belief" in Jesus Christ trumps even good works.
There is no absolute, total agreement by the biblical authors, though there seems to be a general consensus on God's Omniscience, and Sacred Presence. It's just not that black and white... And, maybe that is a good thing. Every man has to walk his own path. Your path maybe different to mine, and yet, both may lead to same Light... And ultimately, there is only the Light. Blessings from the UK.
@@michaeldantepoet9863 Well, I must admit, you raised a lot of points in order to school me on theology and history. It will take me a lot of time to address each one of your contentious points. And time? It is what I have not much of it. Please forgive me. However, I am interested in the following claim that you made. You wrote, “Jesus said it best, 'Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One.' The word three is definitely missing from the mouth of Christ - it is simply not in his formulation of the Shema. Sure, you may disagree, well you can quote an Epistle, but the Apostle Paul was a disciple of Jesus - not the Master Himself. Things are not black and white, they are subtle and nuanced, my friend.”
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What is your understanding of the word “one” as it is written in Jesus’ statement: “Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One?”
@@michaeldantepoet9863 About a year ago, I wrote the following in “Defense for the Trinity” and posted it in many TH-cam comment blocks (sections). I thought you might find it interesting. Grant it - it does not address your assertions that Sir Isaac Newton, Universalists, and Jehovah Witnesses are not convinced of the Trinity. But rather it takes into account that in terms of dealing with the metaphysics (spirit, unseen, invisible) ream, one must account for a new reality. Please respond if you must.
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The founding fathers of the United States Constitution have done for mankind a great favor. They founded a government that resembles and operates like their God - “The Holy Trinity”, “The Blessed Three-in-One”. The followings are 12 similarities (resemblances) between God the U.S. Government:
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(1) God is a Spirit - cannot be seen or touched. The U.S. Government is a spirit - cannot be seen or touched.
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(2) We read about God on papers - the Bible. We read about the U.S. Government on papers - the United States Constitution.
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(3) God not only creates, He also destroys. The U.S. Government not only creates, it also destroys.
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(4) God makes Laws to govern His people. The U.S. Government makes Laws to govern its people.
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(5) God has the powers to forgive and to restore His enemies. The U.S. Government has the powers to forgive and to restore its enemies.
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(6) God can work His wills in and through the lives of people. The U.S. Government can work its wills in and through the lives of people.
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(7) God is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of God’ there are three different Natures (Persons): (1) Father, (2) Word / Son of God, and (3) Spirit of God. The U.S. Government is a “Trinity”, because within the ‘Oneness of the U.S. Government’ there are three different natures (governments): (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government.
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(8) God has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Father says, “I am God.” (2) The Word / Son of God says, “I am God.” (3) The Spirit of God says, “I am God.” The U.S. Government has three different “Centers of Consciousness”: In other words, (1) The Executive Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (2) The Legislature Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (1) The Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.”
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(9) The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible, but the Bible revealed God as a “trinity” in whose “oneness’” the three different Natures (Persons) of God are co-existing and are co-equal. The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the United States Constitution, but the United States Constitution revealed the U.S. Government as a “trinity” in whose “oneness” the three different natures (governments) of the U.S. Government are co-existing and are co-equal.
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(10) {John 3:16} God took one of His three Natures called “Word of God”, clothed or covered Him in human skin (Jesus), and sent Him into the world to save lives. The U.S. Government took one of its three natures called “Executive Branch of Government”, clothed or covered it in human skin (soldiers/militaries/CIA/ambassadors), and sent them into the world (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan) to save lives.
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(11) Throughout the Bible, it is the Father who decreed redemption (freedom) for His people, it is the Word / Son of God who purchased (paid for) redemption with His Life on the Cross, and it is the Holy Spirit who applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples. Throughout the United States Constitution, it is the Legislature Branch of Government that decreed redemption (freedom) for its people, it is the Executive Branch of Government that purchased (pays for) redemption with their lives on the battlefields, and it is the Judicial Branch of Government that applied redemption (freedom) by spreading it to all peoples.
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(12) Deuteronomy 6:4 reads, “Hear O Israel, the LORD, our God is one LORD.” But God is a Trinity - a single unseen Spirit (Entity) with three different “Centers of Consciousness”. Deuteronomy 6:4 could also be read, “Hear O American people, the government, our U.S. Government is one government.” But the U.S. Government is a trinity - a single unseen spirit (entity) with three different “Centers of Consciousness”.
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The disclaimer: God, unlike the U.S. Government, is unique in three ways: (1) God is Omniscient (All-knowing) - the U.S. Government is not omniscient, (2) God is Omnipotent (All-Powerful) - the U.S. Government is not omnipotent, and (3) God is Omnipresence (All-Present) - the U.S. Government is not omnipresence.
@@123dsj123 I like the article you wrote. I never thought of the foundling fathers setting up the constitution according to the principles of the Trinity - it's an imaginative idea, and sounds quite plausible to me. You made some sharp observations on your part.
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I feel we are riding on the same train, though, not necessarily the same carriage.
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I agree, the three aspects of God are Omniscience, Omnipotence and omnipresence, which if you like, you can describe as a divine trinity. For me, these three qualities are synonyms for Sacred Unity, just as vermillion, scarlet and crimson are synonyms for red.
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However, this is where I depart a little from your observation. You say, God has three 'centres of consciousness'. I would disagree with the wording of that. From my perspective, God is less like a Borromean knot and more like an open circle. In this open circle, God can be seen as an animator, preserver and destroyer of forms, though the forms in themselves, manifest only as appearances in the One Light. In truth, lifeforms are vibrations of that One Light or the Undying Logos. Even the material objects themselves, are fashioned from this Light of Knowingness: Pure Intelligence without name or form - animates all names and forms through the illuminating Power of the Spirit..
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The Spirit of God is infinite, which is a logical premise, one can infer, from the conclusions you drew about God's nature. You said, God was both omnipresent and omniscient. Therefore, by mathematical necessity, the centre of infinity is everywhere, and so, the consciousness of God is in you, as Christ said, 'I and the Father are one.' A profound observation by Jesus who understood where the centre was i.e. in himself, but this self-same centre is also in you!
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God's consciousness being omniscience itself, looks through the eyes of all beings. In truth, it is one essence, which animates all substances, hence, all points of view exist within it. Yet the Light which illuminates these points of view, like an eye, cannot turn its focus around to look at itself, yet everything, appearing in its view is integrated into its own Unity, which in itself, is beyond time and space. A paradox indeed, for the eye of God, incorporates all points of view, yet, is limited by none, for it's the very Source from which all points of view arise! Yet in itself, it has no point of view. Existing beyond the mind, it animates all minds out of its Pure Presence: the Unity of Knowingness which is integrated through its Spirit.
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There are as as may centres as there are beings in the universe, yet, in essence, each centre is given it's life and being through that one Parental Principle - the Father of All. Father in Latin is Pater, which is the root of the word pattern. God the Father, therefore, is the Patterner of all Patterns - Creator of the Cosmos.
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God appears immanently as forms when manifested through the Logos and can be felt as Pure Presence I AM. You cannot separate the creation from Consciousness. Life appears in the I AM, and in essence, knows itself as I AM. Look for yourself, is this not true? For we all share the same Name of God - I AM or simply 'I', which is the eternal beingness of our nature, which is sensed by everything which lives. To intuit God, is to sense your own Presence beyond name and form, beyond even, anything conceived or perceived. It is to know that another's presence is your own. That is Love - the openness of Jesus' message.
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There are no points of view which exist outside of this Consciousness or Spirit, indeed, all points of view exist because there is this Universal Principle of Consciousness, which immanently manifests in life, as life, through life - yet in essence, is One Eternal Life. Show me any object that exists independently from the light of consciousness? All times and places are lit up by this Single Principle of Consciousness - this One, Eternal Light. Consciousness or Spirit is primary, and without it, there is no creation, no life and no viewpoint. All objects appear in the Single Principle of Consciousness, whether, the object is in this world or another. Therefore, God is omnipotent because it illuminates every experience. In essence, He animates all things, in all times and all places. He is Transcendental Unity or the ground of all being. God is the fundament. I use the traditional pronoun He, but that is inappropriate, for God exists beyond the categories of gender, but may manifest as either.
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The three three persons of Godhood, 'I', 'you' and 'he' are singular in essence, i.e. from one uncreated, Virgin Source. You might say, they appear immanently as a trinity of substances, but in essence they are One, just as ice, liquid and vapour are One. Genesis uses the Magisterial Pronoun when describing God i.e. 'we,' which in English is also 'one'. This is because all points of view exist in God, because, without God there is no life, no consciousness and no experience. As Jesus said, 'I and the Father are one.' Therefore understand that this also applies to you too. Life is ever resurrecting because the One Light cannot die for the Source of that Light emanates from beyond time and space.
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The full spectrum of viewpoints throughout all of creation are really one. In substance they appear multiple, in essence, they are unified through a Single Power. Just as red and blue appear as different, but are refractions from the One Light. Because this mystery cannot be comprehended by the human mind, we can say, the Godhead exists, beyond time, beyond space, and beyond even viewpoint, and yet, when manifesting through the Logos, Divinity exists in all times, all places and animates all life. God is inescapable. The Logos is the Principle of Intelligence which shines in all beings. Therefore, God incorporates all viewpoints, indeed, he is living information, and beyond that He is the knowledge of I AM. Pure Mystery and sheer Majesty.
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I enjoyed your article. I thought it was good, and I have to say, it was quite perceptive of you to have noticed these things in the Constitution. I never looked at it that way and found your observations quite engaging. Full points for your original thinking!
@@michaeldantepoet9863Bringing in the outliers does not prove a point cogently.
The girl is an exhibitionist. A big boast.
Ha ha ha.... Height of humour...
This is the question i had to my muslim friends, help me out on this. How is that you ask help from God, then also ask help from the jinn of this world? Jinn is satan. And to top that, you claim to worship the God of Moses.
Do you really know the God of Moses?
They believe when they see your face :p
I don't know what kind of religion he is following but definitely not islam
The Ben guy is denying jinns which means he is denying an aspect of the faith. His Imaan is very low and he shouldn't speak like that. Plus he is wrong.
Totally .. I am surprised when some of these callers said .. they are sunni muslims but they don't believe in Jinns .
Believing in Jinns .. is part of believing in Islam . As far of my understanding of Islamic theology .
Now off course from an unlislamic scientific point of view .. there is no reason to believe in Jinns .
@My Dear Brother Ben actually if you do a survey you'll see most Muslims do believe in Jinns specially here in the Muslim world . We have numerous muslims in our villages who claim to witness Jinns .
Usually they say .. Jinns look like "blue fire" . And the fire moves from one place to another in a second . From ground to the top of the tree etc .
Could be underground gas I think .
Ben is not Muslim
A saying goes: Beware of the ones who claim to know HE who created the Heavens and the Earth, they will have a godly appearance and talk eloquent with there words however when they call upon the Lord they sound like Mosquitos. They know not the Lord of Lords. Verily they have been misguided by a Praised Man who has descended from a respected lineage from the Desert.
Jinns speak Chinese! So the Chinese speak the jinn language. I will be careful next tine when I meet the Chinese.
*NOTE*: I have attempted to post my comment twice but it just disappears. I think it is because of the multiple links it contains. I am reposting it again below, but this time it will be without any links, however I will include the name of the channel owner and the video titles of the links.
Djinn catching is a reality. There is *sufficient* evidence for its phenomenon. At some future point I intend to put out a challenge to the ex-Muslim community to experience for *themselves* the practice of Djinn catching. If nothing happens I will pay the participant $1k, but if something *does* happen they will be required to put up the footage of their experience on their YT channel for all to witness; it can be made a contractual agreement. For a person who actively disputes the reality of the Djinn or Djinn catching, it is fair to say that it would be a reflection of their emotional dishonesty to not accept the challenge.
There is a man named Abderraouf Ben Halima who is a decade-long veteran in the practice called “Ruqya,” which formally means incantation, summoning the Djinns and demons by invoking the name of God by reciting verses from the Qur’an. As the text is able to summon demonic entities at will, the Qur’an also appears to serve as a book of spells.
What is more terrifying, however, is that the Djinn admit to deceiving otherwise innocent people from the straight path so that they end up in hell, and in accordance with the Qur’an, God has permitted all of this deception to take place. Here is a disconcerting session that I urge you to watch at time stamp 1:09:00 - 1:10:00: “Djinn catching for industrial use of human bodies, Satanism and galaxy”
Being a Djinn catcher, Ben Halima summons these entities into a non-possessed body, using incantations from the Qur’an to control the Djinn, destroy spells, break evil pacts and compel the Djinn to convert to the religion of Islam. In his conversations with these Djinns, you will find that distinctly Islamic concepts are confirmed throughout (e.g. stars used as missiles to chase away demons trying to snatch information from the angelic realm, heaven / hell, the muslim / kafir labelling, leading mankind astray, etc.)
Here is just a sample list of compelling sessions from a vast catalogue:
In the following link, he summons the Djinns of public figures who engage in the worship of Satan and perform sorcery. E.g. time stamp: 45:30 - 46:50 “preachers for Satan Ben 24 abderaouf”
In this video, he summons the Djinns for the attacks that occurred in France: “Capatge des djinns pour la situation”
A session that concerns the origin of the Coronavirus: “Corona 8 Questions Ben Halima”
A session that concerns the publication of demonic books for children and the deep network of Satanism within Masonic lodges and politics: “Catching for children’s book of demons”
And finally, a session that reveals how visitation of the tombs of saints, shrines and temples is a hotbed for Djinn activity and linked to the Islamic concept of Shirk: “Grand captage pour le tombbeaux”
If you explore the rest of the content on his channel which spans over 7 years, you will not find anything that exposes him as a fraud. Judge for yourself. Having followed him for a while, it wouldn't make any sense to think so. He teaches the practice of Ruqya to students and has already set up multiple Ruqya centres around the world to facilitate the practice of Djinn-catching.
Here is his TH-cam channel name: Abderraouf Ben Halima
His website is can be found online by typing his name in the Google search engine.
In the navigation bar on the site you’ll find an extensive list of Ruqya healers all over the world. If it works for others then it simply can’t be fraudulent.
If you just take a look at his channel, you would be hard pressed to find anything disingenuous.
Finally, I want to clarify that I am an ex-Muslim myself as I am still in the phase of exploration and reconciliation with other conflicting phenomena for which there also exists substantial evidence [e.g. past life regression, life between lives regression and holographic kinetics; I encourage you to check it out, particularly the in-depth research of Richard Martini]. I appreciate you taking the time to go through all this, I am aware that it is a lot to digest. It is certainly all very frightening and the conflicting nature of evidences does not inspire emotional calm. But the principle of intellectual integrity *demands* that it be explored and taken seriously. Thanks.
Why did u become ex - mus..?
@search4truth that is an interesting verse .. haven't read the full Quran myself before .
Most of these so called "Jinn experts" will never agree for a proper scientific experiment so there you go ....
@@rahatzaman8120 I will arrange it.
@search4truth Thanks for sharing that verse. Eye-opening.
Empirical evidence constitutes experimental procedure founded upon sense experience that is consistent and reproducible, as a way to reliably counter a proposition. This is precisely what I have suggested.
muslim must believe the existence of jin.. but not to how the jinn look like.. qs. annas..
Mr Sameer,are you an atheist or agnostic?
I think he is an agnostic athiest
@@Ahmed-ef6ss alas,dogma applies here too
@@gorajoo2975 how ?
@@quiestwho4363 study Occam's razor and look at the term agnostic atheist.Why do you have to combine atheism with agnosticism? By saying agnostic atheist,you are saying only atheism exists and agnosticism (used as an adjective) is a feature of it
Does not it sound dogmatic to you ?
@@gorajoo2975 it is important to know what people mean when they say that they are atheists or agnostics or agnotic atheist. You know the strawman fallacy right ?
If you ask Sameer the question "what do you mean by that ?", he will tell you that he is atheist in the sens that he dosn't believe in the god existence, and agnostic in the sens the sens that he dosn't know if a god exist. That's all.
No need to go read philosophy books as you see.
even if supernatural exist,,,islam may be false too
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