13:46 In The Silver Eyes it was specifically stated that Charlie was kidnapped on the 31st of October 1982, not 1983; also, when pinpointing the date itself, Charlie and John discussed about her being born on the 13th of May 1979 (yeah, whoever dated her gravestone 1980 in The Fourth Closet can't count; assuming that is her gravestone, considering it's nowhere near the two she and John visited in book 1). Also, again, the 31st of October was only stated to be she was taken, NOT killed; Charlie could have in deed been killed in 1983, as long as it was between the 1st of January and 12th of May (as she would have turned 4 on the 13th).
This date suffered a retcon in The Fourth Closet. It was stated since the first book that “Sammy’s” kidnapping happened when she was 3, and this was in the year of 1982, meaning that she was born in 1979. In the third book, her grave had “1980-1983”, meaning that her birth date also suffered a retcon to keep the detail of Charlie being 3 when she was killed.
There's major continuity error when it comes to Charlie's age in the novels. In the Silver Eyes, she's supposed to be 17 in 1995, meaning she would have to have been born in 1978, however they later say she was born in 1979. Then Sammy's kidnapping date (which was actually Charlie's) was said to be October 31st, 1982, and then in the Fourth Closet, we see Charlie's gravestone say "1980-1983". So yeah, her age is all over the place.
This is really well put together, and i agree with most things as well. Although, I think that William was the one who started with Fredbear's Singing Show, and Henry ran the carnival events as implied by the "Travelling Circus" book he had in the Silver Eyes. Then possibly during the 70s, the two came together, founded Fredbear's Family Diner and began the annual Fallfest events. As for the fire that occured during Fallfest '83 , I'm speculating that William himself started that fire. As we know from the novels, Afton extremely envied Henry and killed Charlotte in October 31st, 1983. While this happened, Henry was out with Mrs Emily attending a halloween party (from what I can remember of the story), leaving Sammy and Charlotte at the Diner. A similiar occurrence may have happened during Fallfest too. Out of jealousy for Henry and due to the loss of his son, Afton burnt down the Fallfest event which destroyed everything Henry built. As we see in the Curse of Dreabear, Afton's car with the purple headlights is beside the "Fallfest '83" banner, which could imply that Charlie's death is linked to this event. Afton may have used the fire as a distraction to draw Henry away from Freddy's, giving him the opportunity to kill Charlie. William killed two birds with one stone, killing Henry's daughter and burning down everything he's worked for up until that point. This also makes the story come full circle with FFPS. Henry comes back in 2023, back to Fredbear's Family Diner (which is speculated to be reconstructed into FFPS) in order to end everything. This time, everything that Afton worked for was being burnt down now, (Molten Freddy as it was the animatronic with the Remnant William invented, and Scrap Baby which was William's daughter turned evil to do his bidding and kill.) Just as William burnt Henry's legacy, it was time for Henry to do the exact same 40 years later.
I personally believe the Rockstars are the original costumes and fall fest, and carine and lefty are same person. AR one said rockstar Bonnie borrowed parts from the original Bonnie, which is referring to the fall fest Bonnie
I think both Charlotte and Crying Child died in the fallfest. And Charlotte’s death date in the games is the same as the Novels. But for now I will still believe that she died at Fredbear’s, even with that image of the 4 animatronics with The Puppet being “dead”. There are more details in the past games pointing that she died at the Diner rather than the pizzaria, but who knows ?
i think Freddy's opened before Fredbear's closed which was due to the bite of 83 at Evan's birthday party and William killing Charlie in a act of revenge against Henry who he blamed for his son's death.
Afton did not kill Charlie because he blames Henry for Crying child's death. Afton doesn't truly care for his actual family. He killed Charlie because he was jealous of Henry
secret of the mimic confirmed that the story takes place on 1979, so maybe the springlock suits were made on 1979 before the mimic, after all, the novels states tha fredbear's opened on 1979, so maybe january 1979
I have one theory about fall fest the first one is it's a prequel game. That shows us the real startup date of fazbear entertainment. Along with showing us the first death in the series. My theory is that Fall fest was a joint venture. It wasn't fazbear entertainment just yet. It was the blueprint of how a mostly animatronic. restaurant amventure could be for the future. I believe the designs of baby and the fun time animatronics sun and moon. Along with the balloon boy variants. Were williams actual first designs for this concept. That got put on shelf along with the cloth costumes. After fall fest burnt down due to one of Henry's animatronics. My theory is that this was one of the straws. That broke the camel's back in William. He already didn't like Henry. Along with now their first big venture into this fazbear idea blows up. Probably causing distrust in the community. For this type of restaurant an idea. which I also believe may prove that fazbear entertainment. Wasn't Henry's idea in the beginning. I believe it was actually afton's initial concept and ideas. That peaked Henry's interest into doing this first experiment. With fall fest or another part of this idea. could be fall fest with a side project idea. That was tested in 1977 to see if the concert worked. Either or gets you to the same result. William remembering from all those years in the past. Pushes him to kill Henry's daughter out of revenge. Of the recent and past failures underneath the fazbear brand throughout the years. You wouldn't just explain the slaughter it would explain his whole motive. In the earlier timeline of fazbear entertainment. It could also show that William thought Henry was vain. think about after the first set of murders. The suspension of William killing them. Henry taking it into his hands to push acting out. May have pushed him even further. Because he's saying I started this idea and brought you on. It's not the other way around showing us. That William never thought of this venture as a 50/50 split. Will you solid as his whole and only idea. Just brought Henry along because he's great at robotics. Along with that chica's party world was doing better. This would make Williams home motive. Deeper than we thought it was and even then it was kind of deep.
Tales from the Pizzaplex are not canon to the games, so there is no real point of setting Edwin somewhere in Games Timeline. I belive Mimic has an else origin in the games one.
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13:46 In The Silver Eyes it was specifically stated that Charlie was kidnapped on the 31st of October 1982, not 1983; also, when pinpointing the date itself, Charlie and John discussed about her being born on the 13th of May 1979 (yeah, whoever dated her gravestone 1980 in The Fourth Closet can't count; assuming that is her gravestone, considering it's nowhere near the two she and John visited in book 1).
Also, again, the 31st of October was only stated to be she was taken, NOT killed; Charlie could have in deed been killed in 1983, as long as it was between the 1st of January and 12th of May (as she would have turned 4 on the 13th).
This date suffered a retcon in The Fourth Closet. It was stated since the first book that “Sammy’s” kidnapping happened when she was 3, and this was in the year of 1982, meaning that she was born in 1979.
In the third book, her grave had “1980-1983”, meaning that her birth date also suffered a retcon to keep the detail of Charlie being 3 when she was killed.
There's major continuity error when it comes to Charlie's age in the novels.
In the Silver Eyes, she's supposed to be 17 in 1995, meaning she would have to have been born in 1978, however they later say she was born in 1979.
Then Sammy's kidnapping date (which was actually Charlie's) was said to be October 31st, 1982, and then in the Fourth Closet, we see Charlie's gravestone say "1980-1983".
So yeah, her age is all over the place.
Simple Answer: It will until it doesn’t anymore.
This is really well put together, and i agree with most things as well.
Although, I think that William was the one who started with Fredbear's Singing Show, and Henry ran the carnival events as implied by the "Travelling Circus" book he had in the Silver Eyes. Then possibly during the 70s, the two came together, founded Fredbear's Family Diner and began the annual Fallfest events.
As for the fire that occured during Fallfest '83 , I'm speculating that William himself started that fire. As we know from the novels, Afton extremely envied Henry and killed Charlotte in October 31st, 1983. While this happened, Henry was out with Mrs Emily attending a halloween party (from what I can remember of the story), leaving Sammy and Charlotte at the Diner. A similiar occurrence may have happened during Fallfest too. Out of jealousy for Henry and due to the loss of his son, Afton burnt down the Fallfest event which destroyed everything Henry built. As we see in the Curse of Dreabear, Afton's car with the purple headlights is beside the "Fallfest '83" banner, which could imply that Charlie's death is linked to this event. Afton may have used the fire as a distraction to draw Henry away from Freddy's, giving him the opportunity to kill Charlie. William killed two birds with one stone, killing Henry's daughter and burning down everything he's worked for up until that point.
This also makes the story come full circle with FFPS. Henry comes back in 2023, back to Fredbear's Family Diner (which is speculated to be reconstructed into FFPS) in order to end everything. This time, everything that Afton worked for was being burnt down now, (Molten Freddy as it was the animatronic with the Remnant William invented, and Scrap Baby which was William's daughter turned evil to do his bidding and kill.) Just as William burnt Henry's legacy, it was time for Henry to do the exact same 40 years later.
I personally believe the Rockstars are the original costumes and fall fest, and carine and lefty are same person.
AR one said rockstar Bonnie borrowed parts from the original Bonnie, which is referring to the fall fest Bonnie
That was super awesome! I really liked what you shared in the video. I’m excited to see if Steel Wool makes a Fallfest game in the future.
I think both Charlotte and Crying Child died in the fallfest. And Charlotte’s death date in the games is the same as the Novels.
But for now I will still believe that she died at Fredbear’s, even with that image of the 4 animatronics with The Puppet being “dead”. There are more details in the past games pointing that she died at the Diner rather than the pizzaria, but who knows ?
I love the sprites this guy makes
i think Freddy's opened before Fredbear's closed which was due to the bite of 83 at Evan's birthday party and William killing Charlie in a act of revenge against Henry who he blamed for his son's death.
Afton did not kill Charlie because he blames Henry for Crying child's death. Afton doesn't truly care for his actual family.
He killed Charlie because he was jealous of Henry
secret of the mimic confirmed that the story takes place on 1979, so maybe the springlock suits were made on 1979 before the mimic, after all, the novels states tha fredbear's opened on 1979, so maybe january 1979
i think Fall Fest is when William first got into contact with the Mimic. In fact, i think it might have been fallfest 1983, and THATS what BV saw
I have one theory about fall fest the first one is it's a prequel game. That shows us the real startup date of fazbear entertainment. Along with showing us the first death in the series. My theory is that Fall fest was a joint venture. It wasn't fazbear entertainment just yet. It was the blueprint of how a mostly animatronic. restaurant amventure could be for the future. I believe the designs of baby and the fun time animatronics sun and moon. Along with the balloon boy variants. Were williams actual first designs for this concept. That got put on shelf along with the cloth costumes. After fall fest burnt down due to one of Henry's animatronics. My theory is that this was one of the straws. That broke the camel's back in William. He already didn't like Henry. Along with now their first big venture into this fazbear idea blows up. Probably causing distrust in the community. For this type of restaurant an idea. which I also believe may prove that fazbear entertainment. Wasn't Henry's idea in the beginning. I believe it was actually afton's initial concept and ideas. That peaked Henry's interest into doing this first experiment. With fall fest or another part of this idea. could be fall fest with a side project idea. That was tested in 1977 to see if the concert worked. Either or gets you to the same result. William remembering from all those years in the past. Pushes him to kill Henry's daughter out of revenge. Of the recent and past failures underneath the fazbear brand throughout the years. You wouldn't just explain the slaughter it would explain his whole motive. In the earlier timeline of fazbear entertainment. It could also show that William thought Henry was vain. think about after the first set of murders. The suspension of William killing them. Henry taking it into his hands to push acting out. May have pushed him even further. Because he's saying I started this idea and brought you on. It's not the other way around showing us. That William never thought of this venture as a 50/50 split. Will you solid as his whole and only idea. Just brought Henry along because he's great at robotics. Along with that chica's party world was doing better. This would make Williams home motive. Deeper than we thought it was and even then it was kind of deep.
Am I the only one who wonders if there’s a reference to Something Wicked This Way Comes happening with the carousel?
How come you didn't use the unwithereds minigame sprites?
I just like how the classics look
@@sambar2772 ah okay
Hey man can i suggests a vid
Tales from the Pizzaplex are not canon to the games, so there is no real point of setting Edwin somewhere in Games Timeline. I belive Mimic has an else origin in the games one.
I don’t think TalesGames is confirmed, either directly stated or in overall community consensus.
If the Mimic exists, then Edwin exists by proxy. Even if Tales isn't in the same continuity as the games.
@@sambar2772 Mimic exists, Edwin not
@@akronixileo4459nice cherry picking dude. How does that logic work?
If the Mimic exists, why wouldn’t Edwin? He’s the one who literally made it.
Tales is canon
fall fest complicates fnaf for no reason and ruines the one part of the lore we almost had solves
It dosent