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During that time , RCD system hadn't invent yet (Remember? It's just the beginning age of electricity!! No any research about this!! ) And AC is more harm than DC to Human body by nature.( What DC do to body will act like capacitor, when we collect more charge enough our body resistance to DC will raise!! while AC bypass this property and make our body resistance to AC remain the same. Higher resistance mean lower current at the same voltage from V= IR . So what Mr. Edison try to explained from his view is in a good ethics, However it's possible that Mr. Tesla who was an expert in AC might had already prepared for his invention (but still not RCD system at that time)
Maybe historically accurate biographies instead of smear campaigns based on biases and historically inaccuracies....the phonograph was the very first working device in all of human history to playback recorded sound there was no predecessor or improvement... if Edison didn't invent anything then which inventor in history did? Newsthink is terrible there is no historical evidence showing that Edison executed the elephant Topsy no journalist or newspaper reports Edison at the event...
@@CalculusIsFun1 Edison's truck was with Westinghouse not Tesla. Even his problems with Westinghouse didn't rise to the level of hate. The only entity Edison came close to hating was the US Navy.
Lol it's not true it's just lies invented by clown conspiracy Tesla fans...there is no historical evidence showing that Tesla invented the radio just some clown internet Tesla fans
In the US, "morals" are considered an outdated, obsolete thing. Mind you this is in a country where a good part of the population thinks that not only is the Earth flat, but that it was made 6000 years ago.
I think you did a great job of fairly portraying Edison. Like most folks, Edison had his down side, he also had a great up side as well. It's easy to criticize his dismissal of AC current now but at some point, even Edison had to realize it was the way of the future.
Are you aware that he and another boy went swimming one day in the neighborhood swimming hole just by themselves and had a competition as to who could hold their breath longer underwater? When Edison surfaced, he kept waiting for the other boy to come up, but he never did. Edison eventually swam to shore, put his clothes back on, left the other boy's clothing where it was, walked home, had supper, and never told anyone until hours later when the whole town was in an uproar. By then, Edison was sleeping in bed, and his mother burst into his room and asked him where was that boy with whom he had gone swimming. It was only then that Edison told someone what happened. Edison then said his mother said: "You have no heart." The next day, they found the boy's body. He had become entangled in the branches of a dead tree that was below the surface of the water. Almost none of the biographies of Edison mention this incident. You might say that when Edison redeemed himself when--at some risk to himself--he rescued that station official's boy from being run over by a train. He also burned down a barn just to see what it would look like. Sorry I cannot remember my sources for the above remarks since they are not at my house. Tesla went a little nuts at the end of his life, but I am unaware of any horror stories about him that compare to those about Edison.
"He also burned down a barn just to see what it would look like" Damnn... I know that the intention behind it was really sick, but I can't really help but think that it's cool asf
This is completely false. Edison's first patented invention was the electronic voting machine...the idea of it was to help Congress vote quicker and therefore be more efficient. Congress turned it down because if they were voting faster they wouldn't have the opportunity to filibuster and waste more time. After this mishap, Edison vowed to never again invent something that didn't have a definitive market to sell the product in.
"Edison had an Aha moment..." This statement, and what follows, regarding the development of the filament, is not accurate. Edison is not responsible for discovering the carbon filament. It was Lewis Howard Latimer -- a black man -- who invented it. At 3:20 of this YT video th-cam.com/video/vnehQD9NCrE/w-d-xo.html you'll get the truth about who really invented the filament. Note: Look at the top of the patent which was shown in this clip at 3:48, and you'll see the names J.V. Nichols & L.H. Latimer. I no longer trust "American" history, because it purposely omits the contributions of black Americans and other minority groups. If any serious research was done for this video by the Newsthink channel, the facts about how the lightbulb really came to us must have been discovered. However, they chose to omit it. Why?
In Christopher Nolan's movie THE PRESTIGE, Thomas Edison name was mentioned, serving as an off-screen character that serves as a rival to Nikola Tesla that was portrayed by the late David Bowie. The main characters, both Robert Angiers and Alfred Borden are actually the fictional counterpart of both Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla. Angiers/Edison are good at showmanship, improvisation, and marketing. Meanwhile, Borden/Tesla are true experts in their magic tricks/science. Angiers/Edison are rich while Borden/Tesla are struggling to make ends meet. And yet, Angiers/Edison acts hostile towards Borden/Tesla.
There is a tradition in my family that when Edison was charged with a minor crime while working for the Grand Trunk Railroad in Canada and fled to Michigan, he stole a horse from my great-great-uncle.
Killed animals to frighten the public about a competitive product is bad enough…but the fact that he broke one of the Ten Commandments of Man Code placed him firmly in the A-Hole camp. He hand-shaked Tesla to a specified amount of money if Tesla completed a job…and then squelched after Tesla did the job. That thing about a man’s word and a shake being signs of honor apply here…
Thank You for fleshing out Edison a little bit more. It appears he's human. He's got his good side and bad side. I don't have a problem with someone improving on an invention. There is genius in that as well, and that is the good side. Some would say what he did to Tesla would be the 'bad side'. Probably, but in that respect he's no different to some of the business titans of today. I'm not saying I like that. I am saying that's business. As usual, you do great videos. 👍🏾👍🏾
@@SparklingWalrus he also killed a baby elephant in an attempt to scare people of teslas work, would lie about payments, and would take claim and say he invented what his team of engineers invented, (correct would be my team came up with, not I came up with) tesla invented the system we still use today with our telephone poles, and edison hated the fact that his name wasnt on such a large project, so much so he tried to stunt our countries growth by pushing worse, loud and expensive system, that needed massive generators every few blocks hes no different then todays tech giants like zuck who has our entire country addicted to instagram, its not about the money for them, its about filling the never ending void
Two points here bother me about Edison. One electrocution of innocent animals ( some were elderly zoo animals) and the electric chair episode , where the first trial was on a mentally deficient man who was accused on very flimsy and circumstantial evidence of murder. On the first ever execution the prisoner had three shocks before he died . Each shock was increased gradually to determine the voltage required.
Competition doesn't mean to put your Jealousy in front of your conscience to prove you are the best than others. We have seen a great other scientists who took the challenges from the other scientists but failed and they accepted their shortcomings that doesn’t make them less important in history.
Reminds me of the adage; prototypes are one thing, consumer products are another. An invention is not something accessible to the general population until it is cheap and reliable enough to be bought. Refining the industrial processes necessary to build something in volume is a talent unto itself.
Had a class in Black Inventors at Portland State University in Portland. Oregon. The professor said Edison would recruit immigrants when they got off the ships on the east coast and put them up at his complex in Menlo Park. When they invented something, he would patent their inventions under his name. Not a savory character. Lived off of the imagination of others and took credit for "genius" he never had.
@@georgestevens1502 I am not defending Edison. All I am saying is Edison had connections within the govt. and power industry and he used them to his advantage. Also Tesla's idea for free energy was not practically feasible. You can't transfer megajoules of energy wirelessly without frying people. Yes it can work in small scale but not on large scale.
While motorcycling Colorado, I once spent the night at the Windsor Hotel, in Silver Plume, CO, which is now a bed and breakfast. It's claim to fame? At different points in time, both Edison and Tesla stayed there as well as Mohammed Ali. Pretty cool, I think.
Stop crediting Edison so much. He did that in a large team. He didn’t do all by himself. He just wanted you to believe that he did and he actually succeeded
I think it is useless to search "good" or "evil" in T A Edison. You need to understand - Edison was a highly driven person, just like Elon Musk. You could and still can criticize him all you want, but his drive to invent and become successful would not be affected at the least. These kinds of people are single minded - they do not think more or less, just the adequate amount.
Tesla was offered a good pay, if he could figure out how to make Edisons DC generators repairable...he did and when Tesla asked for his money, Edison replied....."THAT'S THE AMERICAN JOKE"!!! I have come across a similar situation, I had to "AGGRESSIVELY" Threaten the CEO, before he finally gave in and payed me and my assistant.
Edison's changes were revolutionary and he sure is a wizard, but if so then Tesla is a literal God. Edison's inventions are obselete now but Tesla invented concepts modern teech still isn't able to perfect. If only Tesla could know how much he's respected today, the greatest genius
7:27 “Dozens of researchers and engineers labored beneath Edison in a carefully constructed organization that he founded and oversaw…” There is nothing wrong with that, that is exactly how the modern world works, thousands of researches and engineers work for big companies who claim the results and products as their own. Engineers get paid to invent or improve things for the company. Who gave us ABS in cars? Who developed touchscreens? Who gave us the first self driving car? What was the engineer's name who came up with the ideas? Those things were all developed by engineers working for companies that take the credit (and rightly so) for it.
I think he. Had to have a pretty good idea of technology, but he is reported to have said something to the effect of I don’t need to be a scientist or mathematician, I can hire as many as I need, but they never could hire me.
I took one of my sons to Ted Kennedy space Center. Where we met astronaut Ken Cameron. My son is a big nerd about space as am I lol. He wants to work for SpaceX when he gets older as a engineer. Even Mr. Cameron was very impressed with all the stuff he was saying and he is only eight years old lol
I worked with the grand-niece of a guy who worked for Edison. He said Edison took credit for everything invented in his labs and when asked by press, if he was inventing things, He would lie and say he was almost ready to release that and others who were competing to invent those things, stopped. Edison had not even started work on that thing.
Edison was responsible for a great many technical innovations, but as a person he was ruthless and vindictive. He went out of his way to discredit and disrupt Tesla's ability to succeed. His demonstrations of the "hazards" of AC current were incredibly cruel and slanderous. Yes, he was a businessman, but not one that I respect.
Years back, a friend tried to explain to me how important Tesla was. He ranted and raved about how Tesla's genius was never acknowledged by the scientific world. So I then asked him if he knew what the SI unit for Magnetic Force was... he didn't know. It is in fact, a "Tesla". I don't know how much more acknowledgement one could want than to have a fundamental unit of the Universe named after you. 🤔
Um... A Tesla is not a fundamental unit. It is a measure of magnetic flux density that is expressed in many possible ways. Newton second per Culomb meter is one way.
No one operates in a vacuum. He was the first to perfect those inventions.Just because the idea for a voice recording device for example, had been thought of, doesn't make him a "thief".
I’m 65 years old and was taught Edison was the great American inventor. But as I studied him I began realize he was a thief. Tesla was a great inventor not Edison. I am an American and realized this at 10 years old.
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Elon Musk have all capitalized upon ideas already in existence. Identifying them and pulling them together into a practical cost effective form is a huge talent too.
People constantly dismissing Edison don't realize that it takes more than a genius to "invent something". He deserves in my opinion as much credit as Tesla.
Tesla did not experience that Edison was a genius of his caliber...why they parted ways. Were Edison a remarkable genius, much of his behavior would have been different.
The narrator claims Edisson has undoubtably changed our lives...what wouldn't we have if Edisson had never lived? He may have changed the timeline but I doubt the technology we use today would be any different without his works.
It's awful how people are still praising Edison for what he did by saying the big business tycoons do it all the time, as if this practice isn't inhumane. Tesla died poor and depressed whilst Edison lived his lavish life till the end.
That is one thing that has happened in America unfortunately. People who invented things get squeezed out by wise guys, and people with money. Same with radios and televisions. The inventors end up getting sued , for their own inventions.
I see videos like this and I’m dumbfounded by the approach. There isn’t a single corporation where the originator of that corporation didn’t hire engineers to invent and solve challenges. So why is it so bad when Edison did the same thing? The answer is it’s not bad… what is bad is the reporting to try to drum up content for a weak story.
Yeah these Tesla fans are clowns with their historical inaccuracies using their reasoning almost no inventor in history invented anything just improved...but Edison did invent the very first working device in all of human history to playback recorded sound - the phonograph...this by itself makes Edison a bigger figure in invention history than almost every inventor!
There is no predecessor to the phonograph it's not an improvement of anything...when people heard "Mary Had A Little Lamb" it was the very first time in all of human history that people heard recorded sound played back...inventing the first working device to playback recorded sound automatically makes Edison a big figure in invention history regardless of what clown Nikola Tesla fans think
Edison was funded to a large extent by J. P. Morgan. This probably accounts for some of his ruthlessness. Morgan in the wound up owning most of GE in the end. He did not care which type of current was better, as long as he controlled it.
TESLA WAS THE SMARTEST PEARSON ON THE PLANET. TESLA DIDN'T CARE FOR MONEY BUT NEED THEM TO BE GENIES. HE MADE IT ANYWAY. WHAT YOU THINK?????????.OUR SERBIAN BROTHER NIKOLA TESLA.
I worked for consolidated Edison, I had to sign a waiver saying anything I invented was the sole right of the company. Makes you wonder if he did that and claimed all the work all his employees did as well. I think he did
1:30 "He mainly improved upon what was already invented" That is what invention is, no idea is original, all the ideas come together to make something. It is like the Earth or sol system being formed. Everything is coming together to make something. 6:00 From what I've read, Edison himself was never involved in the eloctrocutions, and someone else had done it. Topsy also had killed around 3 people in a newspaper from the time which is why they used Topsy. 6:15 Westinghouse, not Tesla. Edison and Tesla's rivalry actually wasn't that real. 7:30 to say Edison wasn't an inventor is still false. 8:00 Again that is how invention works, nothing is truly original. 8:18 People should take a real in-depth to both Tesla's and Edison's lives and see them in all time periods of their lives. Some time after the "Current War" both Edison and Tesla weren't really rivals and respected each other. Edison even invited Tesla to use his lab when Tesla's got destroyed. Thank you for this video though, as there has been a lot of false information forming around the Edison v Tesla rivalry that just didn't really exist and most of the stuff said about it is false. They are historical figures and should be completely investigated for what they did and their actions by reading, not infotainment which has seriously damaged both Tesla and Edison by kinda making liking Tesla a cult. There is a lot of good to offer by learning both about Edison and Tesla. IE: You can learn more about stoicism from Edison and more about very high ideas from Tesla.
True regarding your point on Topsy, I've cut that out of the story. Articles at the time said electricians of the Edison Company carried it out but I think you're right, Edison wasn't there himself and didn't organize it.
@@Newsthink There is some good stuff in your video though. Though I still think there is a lot of damage to the history of both figures caused by both media of Edison and Tesla's time and ours. It just really frustrates me (and it should frustrate people) to see anyone treat Tesla like a "Tin God" without really knowing much other than the videos they've seen. For Example: reading documents and newspapers of time show Tesla was highly egotistical and a lot of the inventions everyone claims Tesla solely invented, he didn't and there is a lot of fanaticism around that too. (It would also be bad if Edison was treated the same way, which he is just at an opposite angle that he caused Tesla a lot of his problems, which he didn't) For discrediting Edison and his inventions, it is more about the brand. Example of this is with Avatar, you don't think I'm going to go see this movie because of one of the video editors, you think it is a James Cameron movie and a lot of his stuff has been good because he directed it. Same thing with Edison.
Edison didn't invent the electric light, he perfected it. Most of his "inventions" were that way. He did have a few totally original ideas, the phonograph being the best known one. To paraphrase Newton, "If he had seen farther, it is because he stood on the shoulders of giants" Was he a thief? Not at all, there are many patents that can't be used for a real product, they are only starting points for ideas that need much more work. Edison did this work, and was able to patent the improvements. He was far from the only one that did this. Edison's electric light patent added several critical additions to those of Swan and others, including a sealed glass bulb with a slender high voltage filament running in a vacuum. The other bulbs were low voltage, not totally sealed, and not in a vacuum. Those differences made Edison's lamp work, where the others were not useful.
This was actually a really great video. What I've heard about Edison prior is always so two sides: Either he is a genius or an evil. Seems like he was really a bit both. He did great things and was amazing at some things, but wrong in his treatment of AC to protect his own interests.
I think that’s what Americans are best at: improving inventions made by everyone everywhere. Blacks invented jazz, but Americans made it better and stronger and more widespread and more popular, to the point where it’s now ubiquitous in our society. Italians, invented pizza, but Americans invented Pizza Hut. We’ve taken inventions from all over the world and made them better, and that’s because of capitalism. If you want to make a lot of money, you’re going to make a product as good as you can make it so that more people want to buy it and pay more for it.
Well...goes without saying. This shows, no matter how long it takes, truth always resurfaces! Just like Siddartha Buddha says, "Sun, Moon and Truth" will always does not stay hidden so long"! Nikola Tesla and George Westinghouse are truly underrated legends in mankind's history!
Edison was disliked by many groups of highly educated university graduates but his list of innovation in parts or whole broke created new domains and todays global commerce. His approach was initial towards more practical options during his time than may be later advance improvements. He was a different personality that is rare to guide stuck scientific options to the new world. His scale of one patent filing per week is rare, like his more practical high resistance low current incandescent safety bulb was more practical then any one before where he had to invent another 200+ apparatus/device to supply safely at home. Like Doctors of Philadelphia tried to paint him poorly of Phonograph a device causing permament deafness where proved them wrong by presenting the lady who has clocked more hours than any one in listening to every record for quality control. So there could be healthy debate on each side. We got a better practical world due to competition of greats.
I learned about most of this as a grade school science nerd about 60 years ago when I did a book report on a book I read about Edison. I remember being disappointed that he wasn't the "great inventor" like a lot of people said that he was. But I even more disappointed that he had patents granted in his name that were actually collaborative designs by his Menlo Park team. They did most of the work, but got all the credit. However, he did set up the process of invention and continuous improvement which was continued by Bell Labs. NASA and the military are now the main drivers in pure research.
He got the credit because he was paying them to invent products. That's how it works. Remember Solitaire on Windows 3.1? Some intern at Microsoft invented that. They bundled it with millions of copies of the software. And how much did that intern make? Zero. I hear they did give him a free home computer to create more games, however. :)
@@jamesscarano7843 According to United States patent law, the inventor's name is listed on the patent. However, ownership of the patent rarely belongs to the grantee. I don't know if Edison is the only name on the patents or not. When I received a patent the owner of the company I worked for had his name added at the last minute. However, neither of us owned the patent as it was sold to another company to finance the project and see it to completion. As always, fame and power has its advantages.
An improvement to an invention requires an invention. Prior to Edison improving a lightbulb to last for a meaningful amount of time, the lightbulb did not really have any use to the public. There are many inventions that are never used because they were never at a technological level that would be significant enough for people to have real use for them in their daily lives. The fact that improvements are inventions cannot be overstated. The Wright brothers, who invented a working airplane would not if they were alive today argue that engineers who made jets fly at the speed of sound were simply improving on what they made; those who made jets were inventors themselves.
He’s no more a thief than the rest of the pioneers. I look at it this way, he didn’t really steal anything. He realized it before anybody else could at the time. Tesla was too passive. If he was more assertive and was threatening in appearance it probably would have ended differently.
Wrong. Although an Edison film crew (who had a great deal of autonomy) filmed the electrocution on Topsy the elephant, Edison himself wasn't there and as far as we know never advised on the project or even comment on the project. I'm sure royalties and investment protection did motivate Edison, he wasn't a saint but, on his fundamental argument that A/C was far more dangerous than D/C he was absolutely correct. A/C is 5X more deadly than D/C. The difference was noticeable and pronounced as A/C systems spread across the country. He did electrocute stray animals at the request of the New Jersey SPCA as a way to humanly put these dogs and cats down. He wasn't beyond using this as a demonstration of A/C s inherent danger.
True regarding your point on Topsy, I've cut that out of the story. Articles at the time said electricians of the Edison Company carried it out but I think you're right, Edison wasn't there himself and didn't organize it.
That's similar to Ford who is credited with the assembly line Which he did But all he did was take the butchering disassembly line all ready being used and turned it around
It is true what they say about immoral people. "The Devil looks after his own." This fellow turns out to be untrustworthy & fallacious with the truth. When it comes to the almighty dollar, anything goes, including personal integrity & veracity.
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During that time , RCD system hadn't invent yet (Remember? It's just the beginning age of electricity!! No any research about this!! ) And AC is more harm than DC to Human body by nature.( What DC do to body will act like capacitor, when we collect more charge enough our body resistance to DC will raise!! while AC bypass this property and make our body resistance to AC remain the same. Higher resistance mean lower current at the same voltage from V= IR . So what Mr. Edison try to explained from his view is in a good ethics, However it's possible that Mr. Tesla who was an expert in AC might had already prepared for his invention (but still not RCD system at that time)
Maybe historically accurate biographies instead of smear campaigns based on biases and historically inaccuracies....the phonograph was the very first working device in all of human history to playback recorded sound there was no predecessor or improvement... if Edison didn't invent anything then which inventor in history did? Newsthink is terrible there is no historical evidence showing that Edison executed the elephant Topsy no journalist or newspaper reports Edison at the event...
@@Newsthink It was a public execution in fact because I believe people like that back in the day probably still do now
Edison hated Nikola Tesla so much that he helped Marconi in patenting radio but Tesla had already developed majority of radio but couldn't patent it
Whatever it is, all r just rumours….name fame award would only be given to the one who presented first
Edison did not hate Tesla. The two men who were jointly nominated for a Nobel Prize in 1916 were great admires of each other.
@@CalculusIsFun1 when did that change?
@@CalculusIsFun1 Edison's truck was with Westinghouse not Tesla. Even his problems with Westinghouse didn't rise to the level of hate. The only entity Edison came close to hating was the US Navy.
Lol it's not true it's just lies invented by clown conspiracy Tesla fans...there is no historical evidence showing that Tesla invented the radio just some clown internet Tesla fans
Being a genius is one thing. Having morals is another.
Well said
Please report the user "DM...". This is a textbook case of an impersonation scam. Thank you.
I don't think he was a genius at all - looks like an old scumbag to me.
In the US, "morals" are considered an outdated, obsolete thing. Mind you this is in a country where a good part of the population thinks that not only is the Earth flat, but that it was made 6000 years ago.
He had neither, just greed.
I think time and the web has brought a great deal of recognition for Nikoli Tesla.
I think you did a great job of fairly portraying Edison. Like most folks, Edison had his down side, he also had a great up side as well. It's easy to criticize his dismissal of AC current now but at some point, even Edison had to realize it was the way of the future.
@Tron Jockey plus the ability to "bridge" systems with different AC frequencies... 50hz and 60hz..
WHEN U STEAL FROM A SINGLE IDEA ITS CALLED PLAGIARISM, BUT WHEN U STEAL FROM MANY ITS CALLED RESEARCH
He'll have his place in the history books.... but Tesla has the special place in our hearts. 💯 #JakeHunter88
Tesla > Edison
Are you aware that he and another boy went swimming one day in the neighborhood swimming hole just by themselves and had a competition as to who could hold their breath longer underwater? When Edison surfaced, he kept waiting for the other boy to come up, but he never did. Edison eventually swam to shore, put his clothes back on, left the other boy's clothing where it was, walked home, had supper, and never told anyone until hours later when the whole town was in an uproar. By then, Edison was sleeping in bed, and his mother burst into his room and asked him where was that boy with whom he had gone swimming. It was only then that Edison told someone what happened. Edison then said his mother said: "You have no heart."
The next day, they found the boy's body. He had become entangled in the branches of a dead tree that was below the surface of the water. Almost none of the biographies of Edison mention this incident. You might say that when Edison redeemed himself when--at some risk to himself--he rescued that station official's boy from being run over by a train.
He also burned down a barn just to see what it would look like.
Sorry I cannot remember my sources for the above remarks since they are not at my house. Tesla went a little nuts at the end of his life, but I am unaware of any horror stories about him that compare to those about Edison.
Edison liked electrocuting living things, they never mentioned how many of his workers were killed by D.C. power!
He allegedly saved a two year old boy... who probably couldn't confirm his story...
"He also burned down a barn just to see what it would look like"
Damnn... I know that the intention behind it was really sick, but I can't really help but think that it's cool asf
Edison was a businessman but never an inventor
This is completely false. Edison's first patented invention was the electronic voting machine...the idea of it was to help Congress vote quicker and therefore be more efficient. Congress turned it down because if they were voting faster they wouldn't have the opportunity to filibuster and waste more time. After this mishap, Edison vowed to never again invent something that didn't have a definitive market to sell the product in.
He did more than you
@@babagandu well your name describe you perfectly so i don't think i should say anything more to you
@@babagandu u start verbally assaulting someone just because of a little insult u might be just a kid or an unemployed adult
"Edison had an Aha moment..." This statement, and what follows, regarding the development of the filament, is not accurate. Edison is not responsible for discovering the carbon filament. It was Lewis Howard Latimer -- a black man -- who invented it. At 3:20 of this YT video th-cam.com/video/vnehQD9NCrE/w-d-xo.html you'll get the truth about who really invented the filament. Note: Look at the top of the patent which was shown in this clip at 3:48, and you'll see the names J.V. Nichols & L.H. Latimer.
I no longer trust "American" history, because it purposely omits the contributions of black Americans and other minority groups.
If any serious research was done for this video by the Newsthink channel, the facts about how the lightbulb really came to us must have been discovered. However, they chose to omit it. Why?
He was somewhat of a Steve Jobs of the early 20th century.
More like Bill Gates, both allied with the Bankers, Tesla and Jobs are more humanitarian in nature.
Or an Elon Musk
@@arunmoses2197Definitely more like Elon Musk
Steve Jobs never claim anything he always recognize the people who do things for his company.
Tesla was the man.
In Christopher Nolan's movie THE PRESTIGE, Thomas Edison name was mentioned, serving as an off-screen character that serves as a rival to Nikola Tesla that was portrayed by the late David Bowie. The main characters, both Robert Angiers and Alfred Borden are actually the fictional counterpart of both Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla. Angiers/Edison are good at showmanship, improvisation, and marketing. Meanwhile, Borden/Tesla are true experts in their magic tricks/science. Angiers/Edison are rich while Borden/Tesla are struggling to make ends meet. And yet, Angiers/Edison acts hostile towards Borden/Tesla.
I saw that movie too but only now notice your insight. I really liked the movie. Good escape from this reality. Good observation.
There is a tradition in my family that when Edison was charged with a minor crime while working for the Grand Trunk Railroad in Canada and fled to Michigan, he stole a horse from my great-great-uncle.
That's not a tradition.
what? that's not tradition?
The Serbian Nikola Tesla was, is and will be for ever the best.
At what exactly?
Killed animals to frighten the public about a competitive product is bad enough…but the fact that he broke one of the Ten Commandments of Man Code placed him firmly in the A-Hole camp.
He hand-shaked Tesla to a specified amount of money if Tesla completed a job…and then squelched after Tesla did the job. That thing about a man’s word and a shake being signs of honor apply here…
Thank You for fleshing out Edison a little bit more. It appears he's human. He's got his good side and bad side. I don't have a problem with someone improving on an invention. There is genius in that as well, and that is the good side. Some would say what he did to Tesla would be the 'bad side'. Probably, but in that respect he's no different to some of the business titans of today. I'm not saying I like that. I am saying that's business.
As usual, you do great videos. 👍🏾👍🏾
edison didn’t invent anything
@@SparklingWalrus he also killed a baby elephant in an attempt to scare people of teslas work, would lie about payments, and would take claim and say he invented what his team of engineers invented, (correct would be my team came up with, not I came up with)
tesla invented the system we still use today with our telephone poles, and edison hated the fact that his name wasnt on such a large project, so much so he tried to stunt our countries growth by pushing worse, loud and expensive system, that needed massive generators every few blocks
hes no different then todays tech giants like zuck who has our entire country addicted to instagram, its not about the money for them, its about filling the never ending void
@@SparklingWalrus How would you define an invention?
@@arunmoses2197 edison is a con artist who invented nothing
@@SparklingWalrusno person can invent things outta nothing, we can only break and rearrange
Two points here bother me about Edison. One electrocution of innocent animals ( some were elderly zoo animals) and the electric chair episode , where the first trial was on a mentally deficient man who was accused on very flimsy and circumstantial evidence of murder. On the first ever execution the prisoner had three shocks before he died . Each shock was increased gradually to determine the voltage required.
Competition doesn't mean to put your Jealousy in front of your conscience to prove you are the best than others. We have seen a great other scientists who took the challenges from the other scientists but failed and they accepted their shortcomings that doesn’t make them less important in history.
This is such an important topic and history in science. Thank you for making this video
So he invented the research laboratory- probably more important than all the individual inventions.
Bill Gates followed in his footsteps
Reminds me of the adage; prototypes are one thing, consumer products are another.
An invention is not something accessible to the general population until it is cheap and reliable enough to be bought. Refining the industrial processes necessary to build something in volume is a talent unto itself.
HE STOLE FROM TESLA
Had a class in Black Inventors at Portland State University in Portland. Oregon. The professor said Edison would recruit immigrants when they got off the ships on the east coast and put them up at his complex in Menlo Park. When they invented something, he would patent their inventions under his name. Not a savory character. Lived off of the imagination of others and took credit for "genius" he never had.
Which is exactly what a successful business man would do.
@@shariqhasan6220 Actually it's called theft of intellectual property. Hope nobody is doing :"business" with you.
@@georgestevens1502 I am not defending Edison. All I am saying is Edison had connections within the govt. and power industry and he used them to his advantage. Also Tesla's idea for free energy was not practically feasible. You can't transfer megajoules of energy wirelessly without frying people. Yes it can work in small scale but not on large scale.
@@shariqhasan6220 OK. Sounded like you were justifying Edison's hustle. Tesla I don't know about. Don't think I made a comment about him.
@@georgestevens1502 fair enough
While motorcycling Colorado, I once spent the night at the Windsor Hotel, in Silver Plume, CO, which is now a bed and breakfast. It's claim to fame? At different points in time, both Edison and Tesla stayed there as well as Mohammed Ali. Pretty cool, I think.
I love your channel. It has a minimalist, sophisticated vibe alongwith knowledgeable videos
Without people improving and making our lives better like Edison, our world would not be as comfortable and productive.
White lies.
Stop crediting Edison so much. He did that in a large team. He didn’t do all by himself. He just wanted you to believe that he did and he actually succeeded
@@mrawesome2704 he still deserves credit for assembling people together. That’s impressive. Look at what happened
Meucci invented the 'telephone' not Bell.
The rivalry was Westinghouse vs. Edison only.
The info is there, publicly.
I think it is useless to search "good" or "evil" in T A Edison. You need to understand - Edison was a highly driven person, just like Elon Musk. You could and still can criticize him all you want, but his drive to invent and become successful would not be affected at the least. These kinds of people are single minded - they do not think more or less, just the adequate amount.
Both lack morals
Tesla was offered a good pay, if he could figure out how to make Edisons DC generators repairable...he did and when Tesla asked for his money, Edison replied....."THAT'S THE AMERICAN JOKE"!!! I have come across a similar situation, I had to "AGGRESSIVELY" Threaten the CEO, before he finally gave in and payed me and my assistant.
Gotta give you credit how you snuck that commercial in at 8:22
6:00 To be fair, he was correct on this point. About 1000 people die and 30000 are injured by AC current.
Edison's changes were revolutionary and he sure is a wizard, but if so then Tesla is a literal God. Edison's inventions are obselete now but Tesla invented concepts modern teech still isn't able to perfect. If only Tesla could know how much he's respected today, the greatest genius
7:27 “Dozens of researchers and engineers labored beneath Edison in a carefully constructed organization that he founded and oversaw…” There is nothing wrong with that, that is exactly how the modern world works, thousands of researches and engineers work for big companies who claim the results and products as their own.
Engineers get paid to invent or improve things for the company. Who gave us ABS in cars? Who developed touchscreens? Who gave us the first self driving car? What was the engineer's name who came up with the ideas? Those things were all developed by engineers working for companies that take the credit (and rightly so) for it.
I doubt Edison has any acumen for deep science and math ? He was just a shrewd business man and a excellent manager.
I think he. Had to have a pretty good idea of technology, but he is reported to have said something to the effect of I don’t need to be a scientist or mathematician, I can hire as many as I need, but they never could hire me.
I took one of my sons to Ted Kennedy space Center. Where we met astronaut Ken Cameron. My son is a big nerd about space as am I lol. He wants to work for SpaceX when he gets older as a engineer. Even Mr. Cameron was very impressed with all the stuff he was saying and he is only eight years old lol
I worked with the grand-niece of a guy who worked for Edison. He said Edison took credit for everything invented in his labs and when asked by press, if he was inventing things, He would lie and say he was almost ready to release that and others who were competing to invent those things, stopped. Edison had not even started work on that thing.
Edison was responsible for a great many technical innovations, but as a person he was ruthless and vindictive. He went out of his way to discredit and disrupt Tesla's ability to succeed. His demonstrations of the "hazards" of AC current were incredibly cruel and slanderous. Yes, he was a businessman, but not one that I respect.
I invented the salt shaker but someone decided to put holes in it.
Years back, a friend tried to explain to me how important Tesla was. He ranted and raved about how Tesla's genius was never acknowledged by the scientific world. So I then asked him if he knew what the SI unit for Magnetic Force was... he didn't know. It is in fact, a "Tesla". I don't know how much more acknowledgement one could want than to have a fundamental unit of the Universe named after you. 🤔
Um... A Tesla is not a fundamental unit. It is a measure of magnetic flux density that is expressed in many possible ways. Newton second per Culomb meter is one way.
@@seanm8030 Okay then, let's get derivative then... A Newton is actually 1 kg*m/s^2, and a Coulomb is actually 1 A*s. Isn't Google Fu, fun?
@@eternalskeptic Yes. It is fun. But a Tesla still is not a EDIT fundamental EDIT unit, which is by definition a meter, kilogram or second.
@@seanm8030 some times common names are respected by IUPAC
@@sincere_me That is not what the OP said.
Nobody is with out fault.
It’s easy to bash a man that help create the world we live in.
No one operates in a vacuum. He was the first to perfect those inventions.Just because the idea for a voice recording device for example, had been thought of, doesn't make him a "thief".
I’m 65 years old and was taught Edison was the great American inventor. But as I studied him I began realize he was a thief. Tesla was a great inventor not Edison. I am an American and realized this at 10 years old.
Edison did not have a firm grasp of math... AC mystified him in many ways.
I read a quote once that stated: "Tesla understood differential equations; Edison did not".
Understood enough to get rich! Meanwhile Tesla, the math whiz, died poor.
@@garryvee different background, different outcome
@@tevinvezina1766 Anybody that wants it bad enough can get rich - there are millions of millionaires - they don't impress me.
@@paulsawczyc5019 Sure _now_ there are millions of millionaires, but if you think that's still true in the 1800's you're a fool.
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Elon Musk have all capitalized upon ideas already in existence. Identifying them and pulling them together into a practical cost effective form is a huge talent too.
Thank you Elonn Musk for giving honour to Tesla.
He didn't he insults Tesla, his lousy electric car which caused trouble all the time, tesla's precious name shouldn't be on it..
Nice video, please upload similar interesting educational contents into the future with different people. All the best Cindy! :-)
Tesla was the genius and the good guy who really wanted the best for humanity.
Are you a bot? You seem like a bot.
@@Luthiart No I am not a bot but you seem like one. :)
People constantly dismissing Edison don't realize that it takes more than a genius to "invent something". He deserves in my opinion as much credit as Tesla.
Nigga saying what 😂
Without Tesla……he was nobody !!!
Tesla did not experience that Edison was a genius of his caliber...why they parted ways.
Were Edison a remarkable genius, much of his behavior would have been different.
Edison was a thief.
Tesla never got the recognition he so greatly deserves.
I think he was crooked and maybe a bit evil.
The narrator claims Edisson has undoubtably changed our lives...what wouldn't we have if Edisson had never lived? He may have changed the timeline but I doubt the technology we use today would be any different without his works.
It's very beautiful over there--Edison's last words.
It's awful how people are still praising Edison for what he did by saying the big business tycoons do it all the time, as if this practice isn't inhumane.
Tesla died poor and depressed whilst Edison lived his lavish life till the end.
Great work Cindy. Bringing the truth to light 💡
Imagine he would say something like this.
It's nothing personal, it's just business.
That is one thing that has happened in America unfortunately. People who invented things get squeezed out by wise guys, and people with money. Same with radios and televisions. The inventors end up getting sued , for their own inventions.
And Tesla was probably just too nice of a man. Edison was ruthless, but the people who change the world tend to be ruthless.
Reminds me of Elon Musk
It’s amazing to see how soon Elon would be reviewed like this someday
I bet that Edison didn't the majority of them.
Respect salute to Tesla
I see videos like this and I’m dumbfounded by the approach. There isn’t a single corporation where the originator of that corporation didn’t hire engineers to invent and solve challenges. So why is it so bad when Edison did the same thing? The answer is it’s not bad… what is bad is the reporting to try to drum up content for a weak story.
Yeah these Tesla fans are clowns with their historical inaccuracies using their reasoning almost no inventor in history invented anything just improved...but Edison did invent the very first working device in all of human history to playback recorded sound - the phonograph...this by itself makes Edison a bigger figure in invention history than almost every inventor!
There is no predecessor to the phonograph it's not an improvement of anything...when people heard "Mary Had A Little Lamb" it was the very first time in all of human history that people heard recorded sound played back...inventing the first working device to playback recorded sound automatically makes Edison a big figure in invention history regardless of what clown Nikola Tesla fans think
Edison was funded to a large extent by J. P. Morgan. This probably accounts for some of his ruthlessness.
Morgan in the wound up owning most of GE in the end. He did not care which type of current was better, as long as he controlled it.
TESLA WAS THE SMARTEST PEARSON ON THE PLANET. TESLA DIDN'T CARE FOR MONEY BUT NEED THEM TO BE GENIES. HE MADE IT ANYWAY. WHAT YOU THINK?????????.OUR SERBIAN BROTHER NIKOLA TESLA.
Thomas Edison is an American icon and was a true genius. Our world 🌎 would have been so much dimmer without him...
We all know that Nikola Tesla is The greatest inventor.
In the light of 21st century, we can safely say he was not an inventor rather a great product manager
Genius is not all about Generating Thing all By Himself It is also Developing previous Idea and Things
Another hit piece. The Tesla fanboys love these history revisions.
Edison went into business with swan
Ediswan was it's name
I worked for consolidated Edison, I had to sign a waiver saying anything I invented was the sole right of the company.
Makes you wonder if he did that and claimed all the work all his employees did as well. I think he did
Reminds me of Jobs and Wozniak.
He was that era's Steve Jobs.
Can't change human nature, greed above all else.
Improving technology makes older technology obsolete. No more Fotomat or Blockbuster.
Edison's assistants were the real geniuses
Finally historical accuracy. lot's more too it.
Uh. First? Never done this
I'll watch the video now, I swear
Where are u from.... ? ?
Why you acting like you're threatened?
Italy
I assumed this kind of comments not related to the video itself were... Unwelcome? Timewaste-y? Dunna
1:30 "He mainly improved upon what was already invented" That is what invention is, no idea is original, all the ideas come together to make something. It is like the Earth or sol system being formed. Everything is coming together to make something.
6:00 From what I've read, Edison himself was never involved in the eloctrocutions, and someone else had done it. Topsy also had killed around 3 people in a newspaper from the time which is why they used Topsy.
6:15 Westinghouse, not Tesla. Edison and Tesla's rivalry actually wasn't that real.
7:30 to say Edison wasn't an inventor is still false.
8:00 Again that is how invention works, nothing is truly original.
8:18 People should take a real in-depth to both Tesla's and Edison's lives and see them in all time periods of their lives. Some time after the "Current War" both Edison and Tesla weren't really rivals and respected each other. Edison even invited Tesla to use his lab when Tesla's got destroyed.
Thank you for this video though, as there has been a lot of false information forming around the Edison v Tesla rivalry that just didn't really exist and most of the stuff said about it is false. They are historical figures and should be completely investigated for what they did and their actions by reading, not infotainment which has seriously damaged both Tesla and Edison by kinda making liking Tesla a cult. There is a lot of good to offer by learning both about Edison and Tesla. IE: You can learn more about stoicism from Edison and more about very high ideas from Tesla.
You are absolutely right 👍
True regarding your point on Topsy, I've cut that out of the story. Articles at the time said electricians of the Edison Company carried it out but I think you're right, Edison wasn't there himself and didn't organize it.
Edison was "TOTALLY AGAINST AC"....he didn't invent it...TESLA DID!!!
@@Newsthink There is some good stuff in your video though. Though I still think there is a lot of damage to the history of both figures caused by both media of Edison and Tesla's time and ours. It just really frustrates me (and it should frustrate people) to see anyone treat Tesla like a "Tin God" without really knowing much other than the videos they've seen. For Example: reading documents and newspapers of time show Tesla was highly egotistical and a lot of the inventions everyone claims Tesla solely invented, he didn't and there is a lot of fanaticism around that too. (It would also be bad if Edison was treated the same way, which he is just at an opposite angle that he caused Tesla a lot of his problems, which he didn't)
For discrediting Edison and his inventions, it is more about the brand. Example of this is with Avatar, you don't think I'm going to go see this movie because of one of the video editors, you think it is a James Cameron movie and a lot of his stuff has been good because he directed it. Same thing with Edison.
Edison didn't invent the electric light, he perfected it. Most of his "inventions" were that way. He did have a few totally original ideas, the phonograph being the best known one. To paraphrase Newton, "If he had seen farther, it is because he stood on the shoulders of giants" Was he a thief? Not at all, there are many patents that can't be used for a real product, they are only starting points for ideas that need much more work. Edison did this work, and was able to patent the improvements. He was far from the only one that did this.
Edison's electric light patent added several critical additions to those of Swan and others, including a sealed glass bulb with a slender high voltage filament running in a vacuum. The other bulbs were low voltage, not totally sealed, and not in a vacuum. Those differences made Edison's lamp work, where the others were not useful.
This was actually a really great video. What I've heard about Edison prior is always so two sides: Either he is a genius or an evil. Seems like he was really a bit both. He did great things and was amazing at some things, but wrong in his treatment of AC to protect his own interests.
He was more a thief than an inventor
Edison was a thief. More than we will ever know. Stay alert, educate yourself. Live and love within your means. My motto.
One of Edison's scientists invented the filament for the light bulb not Edison
I think that’s what Americans are best at: improving inventions made by everyone everywhere. Blacks invented jazz, but Americans made it better and stronger and more widespread and more popular, to the point where it’s now ubiquitous in our society. Italians, invented pizza, but Americans invented Pizza Hut. We’ve taken inventions from all over the world and made them better, and that’s because of capitalism. If you want to make a lot of money, you’re going to make a product as good as you can make it so that more people want to buy it and pay more for it.
Well...goes without saying. This shows, no matter how long it takes, truth always resurfaces! Just like Siddartha Buddha says, "Sun, Moon and Truth" will always does not stay hidden so long"! Nikola Tesla and George Westinghouse are truly underrated legends in mankind's history!
For said and then!
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Edison was disliked by many groups of highly educated university graduates but his list of innovation in parts or whole broke created new domains and todays global commerce. His approach was initial towards more practical options during his time than may be later advance improvements. He was a different personality that is rare to guide stuck scientific options to the new world. His scale of one patent filing per week is rare, like his more practical high resistance low current incandescent safety bulb was more practical then any one before where he had to invent another 200+ apparatus/device to supply safely at home. Like Doctors of Philadelphia tried to paint him poorly of Phonograph a device causing permament deafness where proved them wrong by presenting the lady who has clocked more hours than any one in listening to every record for quality control. So there could be healthy debate on each side. We got a better practical world due to competition of greats.
I learned about most of this as a grade school science nerd about 60 years ago when I did a book report on a book I read about Edison. I remember being disappointed that he wasn't the "great inventor" like a lot of people said that he was. But I even more disappointed that he had patents granted in his name that were actually collaborative designs by his Menlo Park team. They did most of the work, but got all the credit. However, he did set up the process of invention and continuous improvement which was continued by Bell Labs. NASA and the military are now the main drivers in pure research.
He got the credit because he was paying them to invent products. That's how it works. Remember Solitaire on Windows 3.1? Some intern at Microsoft invented that. They bundled it with millions of copies of the software. And how much did that intern make? Zero. I hear they did give him a free home computer to create more games, however. :)
@@jamesscarano7843 According to United States patent law, the inventor's name is listed on the patent. However, ownership of the patent rarely belongs to the grantee. I don't know if Edison is the only name on the patents or not. When I received a patent the owner of the company I worked for had his name added at the last minute. However, neither of us owned the patent as it was sold to another company to finance the project and see it to completion. As always, fame and power has its advantages.
An improvement to an invention requires an invention. Prior to Edison improving a lightbulb to last for a meaningful amount of time, the lightbulb did not really have any use to the public. There are many inventions that are never used because they were never at a technological level that would be significant enough for people to have real use for them in their daily lives. The fact that improvements are inventions cannot be overstated.
The Wright brothers, who invented a working airplane would not if they were alive today argue that engineers who made jets fly at the speed of sound were simply improving on what they made; those who made jets were inventors themselves.
He’s no more a thief than the rest of the pioneers.
I look at it this way, he didn’t really steal anything. He realized it before anybody else could at the time.
Tesla was too passive. If he was more assertive and was threatening in appearance it probably would have ended differently.
If you invent something that is unusable, like Swan’s light bulb, it doesn’t really count.
Finaly a wise man
Think of Bill Gates, Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg 50 years from now.
Wrong. Although an Edison film crew (who had a great deal of autonomy) filmed the electrocution on Topsy the elephant, Edison himself wasn't there and as far as we know never advised on the project or even comment on the project.
I'm sure royalties and investment protection did motivate Edison, he wasn't a saint but, on his fundamental argument that A/C was far more dangerous than D/C he was absolutely correct. A/C is 5X more deadly than D/C. The difference was noticeable and pronounced as A/C systems spread across the country.
He did electrocute stray animals at the request of the New Jersey SPCA as a way to humanly put these dogs and cats down. He wasn't beyond using this as a demonstration of A/C s inherent danger.
True regarding your point on Topsy, I've cut that out of the story. Articles at the time said electricians of the Edison Company carried it out but I think you're right, Edison wasn't there himself and didn't organize it.
That's similar to Ford
who is credited with the assembly line
Which he did
But all he did was take the butchering disassembly line all ready being used
and turned it around
It is true what they say about immoral people. "The Devil looks after his own." This fellow turns out to be untrustworthy & fallacious with the truth. When it comes to the almighty dollar, anything goes, including personal integrity & veracity.
If you invent a meal and it's a meal but it taste bad and someone comes along and makes it taste better, then who is the real inventor?
You did not invent the meal, because you added salt to it.