What Happens When A Tank Blasts A Torso (Point Blank) ft. Garand Thumb
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- In this video orthopedic surgeon Dr Chris Raynor reacts to @garand Thumbs video, How Happens If A Tank Shoots Directly At A Human (Point Blank, and explains what makes tanks so freaking deadly. Apart from the obvious, of course. #tank #ballisticgel #flanneldaddy
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Spoiler: the human dies.
DUDE I haven’t watched the video yet, screw you.
I can't believe you would just spoil it like that
Really 😱😱😱
Why would you spoil this video. I just don't understand people.
@@trinessdarknemesis8237 because they haven't tested someone from Florida yet
This is the high-quality medical research and advice we didn't know we needed and definitely deserve. 😂 Thanks, doc.
This will indeed “blow the lungs out of the body”
Biology leaves the room, physics enters.... 😶
Scott Manley quote
@@oliverchapman51177 As a firefighter in the Navy I was told the same thing, that at a certain point a human goes from Biology to Physics and just like water you can splash and steam (even burn).
I remember hearing a story, ANA SF was being trained by the US Army in Afghanistan to combat terrorism, they were training them on tanks. A commander told an Afghan to hold a checkpoint with a tank and to shoot any threat. Well a few hours later, the commander hears a boom. He runs to the checkpoint and sees a smoking tank barrel. He’s pissed, he ask the guy WTF, the ANA SF guy says he saw a suicide bomber running towards the checkpoint so he shot him… with a tank round ( you are supposed to use the .50 cal ) they decided never to mention the situation again, the blood filled crater just magically appeared
Well if I saw a suicide bomber running towards my assignment, the last thing on my mind would be switching guns... Especially when time is of the essence.
@@ebixxdracion Only thing is, you BETTER hit on that first shot if they're close. You may not get a chance to switch guns afterwards
@@ebixxdracion ikr, but it’s still technically a bad idea. Why waste 1 HE on a haji when you could give a $5 combo with a .50
@@zacharyharwell351 yeah... I didn't even think about that!
@@RadioactiveNapalm If I ever go out on a high note, I better be shot with the expensive stuff!
By the way: Just a tiny bit of the energy of the projectiles was transfered into the dummys. If the target was durable enough like a thick wall or another tank, depending on the specific kind of projectile, it would deform and get wider or split into peaces and leaving the majority of the kinetic energy in the target. So that was actually "just" the effect of the amount of energy that the projectiles slowed for. Crazy energy and crazy fragile human body. Stay safe, healthy, happy and far away from projectiles 😅
Well that D-20 is pretty much all that is needed to disable a tank to this day. Even if tank remains combat capable after some repairs...crew are not.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 a modern mbt would take that easily to the fronnt and the crew would at worst get some bruises. The sides are not as armored so it might do somehing there.
How many torsos before it does deform?
I'd even go as far as to suggest that the round probably didn't make contact with the dummy. With the damage being caused by the pressure wave coming off the front of the projectile.
@@torte007 It could take it, yeah, but "easily" isn't really the right word to use; there'd still be mechanical damage from the force of it, cause ERA is more for Sabot and explosive projectiles, not howitzer shots. If nothing else, the crew's gonna get rattled to all hell by the force of that. Not to mention that one of those wouldn't be likely to be hitting the front, but the top if it's a direct hit
The first example is incredibly accurate for how a Bolter round would devastate a Guardsman in the Warhammer 40k universe.
More like a volcano mega bolter, a regular boltgun round is no bigger than a 12gauge APHE slug, accelerated to around 600m/s at the muzzle and more than 1200m/s at 300m range...
Truly, Blood for the Blood God
@@SonsOfLorgar It explodes though, which helps in creating way bigger wounds than the size of the bullet
@@tetsudo6934 He did specify APHE, though; the first example of the 'tank vs human' video isn't fitting, as typical boltguns simply don't fire large enough projectiles to carry enough explosives and do that kind of damage. Mega Bolters, sure, but not a Commisars boltgun, or even an Astartes boltgun.
Garand Thumbs videos on explosive .50 cal rounds are closer to an average boltgun.
That one is 20mm, this thing is 75mm. I think in wh40k terms this would be the light cannon variety.
Now I'm no doctor, but I think I might be able to figure out the outcome of this one
What’s crazy is that, according to the book “Spearhead” which follows the 3rd Armored division tank gunner Clarence Smoyer, who would go on to destroy a Panther on camera during the taking of Cologne with his T26E3 Pershing (later M26), this actually did happen. Clarences’ tank was advancing up one of the streets in Cologne as the lead tank in the column. Behind him in a 76mm armed M4 Sherman was a good friend of his (whose name is escaping me right now), and he spotted a German soldier with a Panzerfaust (anti-tank weapon if you don’t know) lining up on Clarence from a nearby door frame. At a range that I’d estimate to be maybe 20 yards at most (they wouldn’t be far from each other during building clearing ops), the M4 gunner lined up on the soldier and intended to fire his coaxial .30 cal machine gun, but he stomped the wrong trigger and sent a 76mm High Explosive round straight into the soldier. He said that when the smoke cleared all he saw was a “fine red mist hanging in the remnants of the door frame.” For those wondering how he could’ve accidentally fired the main gun instead of the machine gun; on an M4, the triggers for the main gun and the coaxial machine gun are foot triggers (pedals). The right pedal fires the main gun and the left fires the coaxial, the way to remember is that the main gun is mounted to the right of the coaxial when viewed from inside the turret (and viceversa). However the pedals are relatively close to each other, maybe 4 inches or so apart, so it’s understandably easy to stomp the wrong trigger in the stressful environment they were in.
That is anti white crime
i’ve seen that video of the Pershing vs Panther . the Pershing rounds went through the side of the panther you can see the flame inside
Damn, talk about "putting your foot down!"
And that is how you take vaporize your opponent literally
When you said Vice Versa I read that as 'viscera' at first. I suppose that's appropriate.
From a historians point of view, this is actually a good teaching aid. When you look at the memorials to the missing, particularly from the first world war, you have to wonder at the concept of so many missing people that have never been found. It is only when you really see something like this that you can begin to understand that people simply became bursts of tiny bits and mists of blood due to the enormous energy imparted to their bodies. This is before you add in high explosives to the mix! Some descriptions of the impacts of the jumpers from the two towers on 9/11 seem to match this also.
I remember my teacher read from his dad's diary, who was a soldire in ww2. a shell landed close to him, it hit one of his squad mates. the only things they found of him was his belt in the telephone wire, and a boot.
gruesome stuff.
I think it might be harder to deal with for any soldier than when there is a body to bury. The loss of a friend is bad enough when you can go through the ususal rituals, but to have a friend go like that must be doubly traumatic. I think we all should have great respect for those who serve and have served, they need more help than they ever seem to get, and deserve more help than they need. I am always humbled by such people.@@kyle18934
Ukraine is currently an artillery war. Similar problem.
In my informal diagnoses, the patient is dead
Yeah there's no way but hey the average tank can punch thru 700mm an well maybe that 600 pound life person could maybe no no way in hell
It’s just a flesh wound…….
I've actually seen this in combat. During Desert Storm, I was with a tank company that engaged an Iraqi tank unit. One of the M1 tanks shot at an Iraqi T-72M tank and and Iraqi soldier stood up just at the wrong time.
Unlike the rounds used in the video, the M1 tank used an APFSDS round (or a sabot round). The guy was vaporized and the round just kept going to hit the T-72 tank. The Iraqi soldier was vaporized. One moment he was there, the next moment he wasn't.
We were like "wait, was there a guy there?" All we saw were his boots.
Damn, and that was just a dart. Makes me shudder to envision the horror that a shell round of the same caliber with less pierce would do
Probably the same, but that's just how it goes
@@TnD_BigJax just a dart, but going way faster than the full bore projectiles. APFSDS tends to run 4-6000fps, so...yeah, the hydrostatic shock when it hits a soft target is gonna be unholy. And it's either tungsten or DU, so the projectile isn't going to deform, meaning only the target is really doing any of the squishing to dissipate that energy.
While using APFSDS on infantry is impractical and a definite death sentence for anyone in the near proximity I would've liked to see the effects of a proper canister round. It's the only round that on the Abrams that you truly felt. AP and HEAT both had a bang, nothing came close to cannister which actually rocked the tank of course I never messed around the new fancy MPAT rounds designed to be airburst and AA for the sep v3.
'Bout the best thing to be said is that the poor fella didn't even know he died. One sec standing up for a leisurely stretch, next sec waking up to the intro to Skyrim.
I took a father of all bomb direct point blank. I dusted myself down and continued on my day
Just for those who didn't know, according to Garandthumb a "psychotic amount of energy" ( 8:49 ) is roughly 1,925,931 ft/lbs of kinetic energy
For reference a .50BMG is about 15,000 at the very top end for some of the most high-powered loads. Most magnum hunting rifles fall between 3,000-4,000.
A truly psychotic amount of energy.
There was a method of execution known as 'blowing from a gun' where the condemned was restrained ahead of a cannon. Said cannon would be loaded with powder and wadding, then fired.
Very little would be left.
Contemporary reports state the head rising a hundred feet into the air, gloop sprayed everywhere.
Very occasionally, grape-shot would be added. Not really needed though. I imagine the Howitzer result was similar.
My country hasn't had the death penalty for a long time. But if we still did, I would request being blown from a cannon.
Apparently it was a common execution method during the British colonial period in India. The victim would be tied to the mouth of a cannon and a powder charge would vaporize most of the body. No cannonball was used.
When an actual Orthopedic Surgeon says "What's left of our patient", "It was obliterated" and or "It has left the chat", you know something has impressive and horrifying has gone down.
Good video Doc. This has happened a few times with 120mm HEAT rounds from an Abrams. The first time I heard of it was the show Greatest Tank Battles. On the episode covering 73 Easting, a Republican Guard soldier with an RPG took a HEAT round center mass after the Abrams gunner forgot to switch to the coaxial MG and just hit the bang button.
I still remember that episode from watching that show when I was a kid. Will never forget how the guy described the man’s body flying away like a leaf
I absolutely love your content, Dr. Raynor. New subscriber here and will be back for more. Especially the Garand Thumb episodes.
Awesome, thank you!
@@ChrisRaynorMD white people are better
I've seen the video you'll be analyzing. Your thumbnail expression is perfect. 😂
It’s the face I had the whole time
@@bishopm4401😂
just for reference the 152mm Projectile is 2.76x HEAVIER than the 76mm Projectile and is only going about 200 FPS slower... that's a crapload of gunpowder to get that Chonker moving! 😳
EDIT: and By definition, howitzers fire at a LOWER muzzle velocity than normal Cannons...
Could be worse, you could always get hit by the AP round from a 120mm M58 cannon. That's over 50 pounds moving at just under 3,150 FPS, making it the most powerful tank gun, in terms of sheer kinetic energy, to ever enter service.
@@griffinfaulkner3514why are we measuring in frames per second. What kind of gpu do you need for 3k fps
@@pencilcase8068 Feet per second, not frames. I guess I could've used f/s, but that's not much better for clarity.
that's why they dont use gunpowder
800mg of ibuprofen, a bottle of water and change of socks and they'll be alright.
Might have to take 1000 for that one chief.
@@nasonguy just be careful. Don't want liver damage from too much ibuprofen.
@@thetacticalpuertorican Liver damage. Ulcers. Circulatory issues. But dammit my back and knees were fucked and iboprofen took the edge off. Made it so I could eat at least without throwing up from the constant pain...
@nasonguy I can definitely relate to the knee and back pain. Can't imagine the other stuff. Sorry man.
@@thetacticalpuertorican Never got to the point of liver damage and heart stuff. Was a long year though healing up. Then weed got legalized and I was able to really help with the pain without going through several grams of ibu a day.
Quick note, the last weapon system was actually categorized as a field artillery piece (should be russian.) That particular projectile was described as 152 mm, which is only 3 mm smaller than the largest standard artillery ammunition we currently use here in the US. Were that a live projectile it would weigh approximately 95 lbs. The basic projectile contains a type of high explosive that, upon impact with the ground, produces a "kill radius" from the point of impact that extends outward approx 50 meters in all directions, aka 100 meters across. Whatever's in the area is gonna have a VERY bad day. Lmao
No wonder there are so many missing soldiers. They literally turned into mist.
Hey there Dr. Chris. Recently Kentucky Ballistics did a colab with the Slow Mo Guys using his 4-bore rifle you may be interested in.. specifically what the gasses did within the ballistics gell.
Even if you dont do a video on it, you may like it purely from a science perspective :)
*quick edit* Kentucky also did a video using Zombie torso's with the same firearm :D
I was wondering if there'd be anything to gain from using Scott as a lab rat. So baseline study of his shoulder with as much detail scanned as possible. Then 1yr later, repeat and looking for changes. From watching the high speed of the recoil impact on his shoulder from the 4-bore.. It can't be good. To be useful, he'd need to keep a shooting diary to track rounds fired, but might be useful to see the cumulative damage from the recoil due to firing a lot of high powered rounds. I doubt pistols are good for the hand and wrist either.
Yeah, that combustion within collapsing gel bubble...
Love it Doc. I haven't seen you do much in the way of auto racing accidents, and the old IndyCar series produced a couple of interesting ones. Alex Zanardi had a horrific crash in 2001 at the CART race at the Lausitzring where his car was bisected in a crash that required amputating both of his legs. The other would be the 2003 IRL race at Texas where Kenny Brack survived a 214 G accident and eventually made a full recovery. Both of those would be fascinating from the medical perspective.
There's also the effects of constant G loading on the human body where CART had to cancel a race in 2001 at Texas because the drivers were experiencing 6 Gs of lateral and horizontal load and were passing out during practice.
Just a small correction. Zanardi lost both legs in the crash itself. They later had to remove more of the legs as they were damaged beyond repair.
It’s the fellas from Ballistic Highspeed that hit a ballistics dummy with a bowling ball from a cannon, isn’t it?
As an aside, I would be very interested to see a breakdown of what the R9X “ninja bomb” does to a person.
damn it you were 2 hours before me
We need Backyard Scientist to hit a ballistic torso with his homemade rocket R9X
@@Sion_Revan Plenty of pictures out there of the aftermath from the real thing.
I've seen the pics of its use against Al-Zawahiri and a handful other HVT's, I still want to see Backyard Scientist hit a ballistic dummy with his razor rockets though
Likely more interesting (because less obvious), would be the effect of thermobaric weapons.
The explosion alone of these look brutal, with a big visible shockwave.
One of the extremely lethal effect is also the subpressure it creates.
It's not something you can show with a dummy (because it got no lunges), so the scientific explanation would likely be interesting for many viewers.
I do very much love the education you bring to folks with these videos and your awesome sense of humor.
"Don't get shot by a tank." Words that unfortunately, too many people have to take all too seriously.
step one dont be seen by a tank
he is actually doing it, whoo hoo
I have to say this is fantastic! I was actually having a debate over hydrostatic shock with a friend who is a surgeon and while the conversation was around more common projectiles primarily the 5.56x45 cartridge. Energy transfer in the form of water displacement did come up. Thank you for the breakdown Doc
You are watching a master at work.
Hope to see the .22LR video breakdown soon! Great work as always!
Honestly I’m enjoying your contact. It’s just the right mix of entertainment and education.
Hell yeah! When I watched that video I had your reaction in mind
I'd call those injuries incompatible with life.
probably one of my favorite crossovers. doc reviewing garand thumb videos are the best.
Thanks for the info Doc Chris, as an intern, I never know when will I be needing this.
Very educational video.
Keep in mind this was a solid steel slug and not high-explosive ammunition that is generally used against buildings and infantry, which could explode on contact with a body. A modern APFSDS round would likely have less force applied to the body than the 75mm solid-steel slug, but would still be far worse than a conventional .50 cal.
i thing a APFSDS Dart would do more damage the most of the time weigh about 5kg or more but travel at like 1500 to 1800 M/S
Just found this video and you have a new sub. Your humor was great and your explanations were easy to understand.
I must say I loved that far and thumb video.
It was amazing how the gelatin torso reacted to the tank rounds.
It’s insane.
I really want to see someday a collaborational video with Dr. Raynor and Flannel Daddy.
P.S.: Looking forward to the @BallisticHighSpeed video analysis.
I really hate it every time a tank blows a hole through my torso. It's hard function in todays world without a stomach and half your spine. Fortunately there is always duct tape. Now I'm as good as new.
exceptional quality medical content
Love the shirt Dr.
Your channel is genius. Great job!!
You should do a colab with Flannel Daddy, maybe even with Demolition Ranch or Kentucky Ballistics. It would be interesting to get your live reactions in person as things unfold.
EDIT: You are reactive to the video from Ballistic High-Speed at Washington County Machine Guns.
This is my guess too! Lol high speed Ballistics are very underrated!
Fun video, I was a combat medic in the army for the 1st Cav, which is an armored division of the army. Now as much fun as this video was. They only used 1 type of shell. We have several different types to make your day go very badly.
HE, HEAT , and a few newer types i forget the names of . at point blank range any of those tank gun rounds wouldn’t even feel the dummy .
@@peterf.229 Ya, the poor dummy, but omg that was so fun to watch. I was going, are they going to go with diff types but man ya, that was a great video
I didn't know i needed this channel, its so well explained and detailed even on what is the base of the conversation, its even made in a way that its really engaging. In other words: Good Sh*t, i'm subbed.
hope today sees you well. Love your vids Doc.
I was about to not watch this video; the answer is pretty obviously annihilation even without explosive shell detonations. But I wanted to see what you'd add to it to make up the rest of the 17 minutes and was pleased about the descriptions of the various tissues connecting the body together. Thanks for this
Ah it's just a flesh wound 😂 a minor scratch 😂 I have to see his evaluation for this one, doctors report pink mist
thanks you doc...i was about to test this myself...you really saved my life😊
Dr. Raynor, love your commentation.
there's a video online of some Ukrainian soldiers mistaking a Russian tank as one of their own and pretty much got blown away at almost point blank range, they basically vaporized from the blast
No kidding? Where can I find this?
Not to mention most of them carry majority HE shells
That mean most of them got shredded into pieces
@@smilemore1997Tellagram beacuse all the video's of it on TH-cam got taken down but yea I saw the video it was 1 month into the war the Ukrainian Soldiers had no chance
@@danielpetrucci8952 that's crazy man...
Just did the math on that last shell.
Because KE (kinetic energy) is + (mass)* (velocity squared) the 45 pound projectile only imparts twice as much energy as the 17 pounder instead of three times because it's travelling 200 ft/sec slower than the smaller round.
So, technically, everything you talked about x2.
Also, I think if you got to him fast enough, you could save him, I have faith in you Chris.
I'm assuming you mean 2000 fps. That's about the speed of the 75mm gun which was on most Sherman tanks. I believe they said 76mm here. They were either mistaking or using a different type gun.
@@landontruman3632 Nope. I meant what I typed. The 45 pounder travels 200 fps slower than the 17 pounder, which significantly reduces the amount of kinetic energy it carries. (Still twice as much as the 17 pounder, but it could be three times as much if they could speed it up by another 200 fps or so).
I see now. I indeed misread it.
@@landontruman3632 No problemo.
I was trying to illustrate how much more of an effect that velocity has on kinetic energy as opposed to mass.
Your laugh when the round went through the torso was AWESOME! That's coming from a Surgical Technician.
giggling absolutely the whole video, with multiple outbursts of audible laughter
I'd be interested to hear your expertise with some of the latest set of videos from Balistic High-speed's channel. Edit: never mind. I just got to the end of the video and I know exactly which one you're talking about.
btw i am wondering that is that program that you used to show them organs and stuff in 3D?
i am quite interested to look into it
Thanks for covering this, Doc. Now I'll definitely avoid getting shot by a tank. I was a bit on the fence about it before this!
Finally, we get to see you break things down! 🤣🤣🤣 Seriously, I've been waiting since the original video debuted.
`tis but a scratch.
As a Combat Vet, I appreciate your analysis of what is a possibility on the battlefield and what is going on in Ukraine right now. Mind you direct hits to a human being is rare with these weapon systems as it is overkill and more expensive than required. The only time a tank is going to shoot an individual is if they can't get ammo for their coaxial machine gun or the covering gun (manned by the tank commander or loader) and that individual is an immediate threat to the tank. (which is almost never).
Or the said individual is standing in front of the actual target (like a BMP).
If the projectile was a HESH / HEAT round, finding anything actually identifiable as human would be a challenge (which would be about 2% of the energy delivered to the “Titan” victims).
Well not really. I guess half right. Let's say a bunker. There's a good chance any compromised position could eat a tank shell. If you are in the wrong place in the wrong time then this scenario can occur. Also not sure the exact tank used in that conflict. But the one used here is well below US military.
You could spot an ATGM team at close range in urban combat or hiding in a treeline.
I love your contents, doc! Best regards!
Love that the good doctor pronounces John Garand's last name correctly.
I believe the doctor is a Canadian, as was Mr. Garand.
Quick……..grab a pressure dressing
LOL.
TL:DR. Human soup.
chunky salsa
One of the defenders on Omha beach describes what happened when the conscript next to him took a 75mm solid shot form a sherman to the chest after it went through the 50mm of steel. This is a pretty good visualization.
This is a freaking awesome video, great job lol!
Also just a suggestion if you ever see this but you should react to some of the deaths from the game, INSIDE, that would be interesting
Thanks. I will take a look at that.
@@ChrisRaynorMD Oh wow--I didn't think you'd respond, thanks!
Doc, 3 days man? Come on Doc, You are better then that. You don't have to treat us like patients. If people truly support you they subscribe 🇺🇲
I am travelling at the moment and I wanted to make sure that it was up so that it would come out on time.
Damn Doc! That's a dope ass button up!!! From lab coat to tank top, to flannel.
Awesome video. Would absolutely love a live collab with Professor Garand!
11:20 Doc really said might be valid for donations. Not saving homie's life😂😂
Thank you for telling me to take a deep breath af the end of the video. I didnt realize my jaw was on the floor and i was almost holding my breath lolol
I really wish to see you live in one of his videos would be so cool !
Another great collaboration with Flannel Daddy AKA Garand Thumb 😃
This was very interesting, doc. I enjoyed it. 😁
Gotta be one of my favorite youtube channels
Shocking results
Best example that reaction video can be better than original one ❤
Oh boy, here we go! Been looking forward to your take on this, Doc.
(You can't stick a Bandaid on pink mist). :D
being a medic retired I first thought you were joking but you are great love your videos
Perfect pic of the last video before sleep
Please, PLEASE do a live collab with Garand Thumb. What an amazing video that would be.
Dr. Raynor has embraced the flannel!!!!!
"His freaking thorax just disappeared" 9:11
That was a perfect reaction
Great video.
Gonna assume the next vid is Ballistic High Speed's cannon ball vs torso during their explosive getaway. Looking forward to analysis of conventional military explosives with/without shrapnel
"Temporary cavitation."
In the words of Flannel Daddy himself, "There's nothing temporary about that cavity."
...the only thing going through my head through those later ones was "there was an experiment where some guy counted the number of blinks of a dis-membered head."
That has an unfortunately appropriate application here, basically...
Don't forget to blink.
Thanks for the post, absolutely appreciated.
Thank you by this video, Dr. Raynor! As always, top notch. What's the name of the program used to visualize the anatomy in 3D? it's beautiful
"Note to self, don't get shot at by a tank" lol 🤣🤣🤣👍
Anybody else think that looked like a super mario bullet going through the dummy? Because that's how unreal it still looks.
I love how I see grand thumbs videos then shortly after you make one about his video lol
My gunner when in the first gulf war. He always made this same mistake at gunnery, with the fire select. He meant to go to coax but went to sabot, and accidently shot an Iraqi infantryman with a sabot round from a 120mm smooth bore cannon, that has a muzzle velocity of 5500 fps, and is 28 inches long by 1 inch in diameter. As some of you might know. That round is used to penetrate armor with kinetic energy alone. No explosive. It's hard to describe what happened to that infantryman, but it was violent.
My thought this entire time was "bro just say hes dead as hell"
Not to mention the possibility when it goes through went through the tank to begin with it drags fragments with it
I was in awe when I saw the effect on the dummy, but when Doc explains what really was happening, I got scared "Temporary Cavity" now gives me chills
Now you need to colab with these guys and give first-hand analysis!👍
That would be cool!
@@ChrisRaynorMD you may want to pass if Kentucky Ballistics is there with a 50 cal...... 😜
Best video ever
Love Your Channel Doc, big time. It's Extremely informative and educational, with a touch of levity. However Not For Nuthin, I think, I Got this one from the Jump. 😊😂