He clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing 🤦♂️ Common sense should’ve told him to keep all electrical devices covered if storing outside lol. “Some men you just can’t reach.”
Dude, there's a lot of issues with this video... First of all, I can't take the opinion of someone who eats their steak medium well. If you're trying to "dry brine" your stewks to get the flavor in it, it should be on a wire rack. Alton Brown did an episode on it. Lastly, your pellet issue is because you leave it outside, and apparently uncovered. It even states in the manual not to do that, that's why the pellets jammed. The moisture from the air and possibly rain that got inside.
Ryan Kukla spot on, man. I have 3 pellet grills. I NEVER have a problem with any of them. They are out in all kinds of weather, all year long. I keep them covered from the rain so i have zero problems.
This guy is a lazy pig. If he would clean it out he wouldn't have this problem. There is a reason there is a clean out door for the pellets so you can dump what you don't use. I put mine in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and clean it after every use and never had a problem.
151 degrees! I pull mine at around 126-128 and if they get over 132 I feel I have failed myself and my wife and kids! Hahaha. Brisket I will pull between 200 and 205 and then open rest down to 170 and then rest in a cooler for the next hour or two (or more) down to 145-ish, for serving temps. This smoker looks like it was not maintained at all, and you are correct - my dad has had a pit boss for well over a year and cooks on it every weekend, even leaves it out in his pergola (covered) and has never once had a problem with major issues or temperature fluctuations. However, he cleans it after every use. Everyone in my family has at least 2 or 3 grills and we all have heavy duty offset stick burners as well as pellet grills and some even have some weird Brazilian open flame, built in pits and other whole pig rotisserie as well and all of the pits get cleaned after they are used and cool down. It's part of normal maintenance on any tool that is used - 'clean after use'
You know, I bought a camp Chef pellet smoker when it first came out, never had a problem with it. Last year I upgraded to a newer Camp Chef pellet smoker/grill And it works great! The old one is still working fine too. The problem with yours isn't the smoker, It's the person operating it! If you learn how to operate your smoker right, take care of it, maintain it, use it correctly, then you should be happy with food that the pellet smoker puts out.
Darin you are absolutely spot on , nothing personal Tony but it is painfully apparent you do not take care of your vertical smoker and it is a vertical pellet smoker not a pellet grill. I have owned my pellet grill for 8 years and never had the issue Tony is talking about. I love my grill and so does my family for what it does for the meat I cook on it . The vertical smoker in your video looks 20 years old because its not taken care of. If Tony cleans it up and maintains it he will be very happy with it .
@@frankgoin3463same with me . I have that exact one .and a pellet grill. Pb 820 sp. Never had a problem with mine and have covers on all when not in use .
Pray for this man. the poor guy is uncomfortable in the bed he has made for himself. Lack of knowlege and understanding is a sad state of affairs indeed. Pray for wisdom!!!
"How To NOT use and maintain a Pellet Smoker". 1: Leave it out, full of pellets, in a "wet weather" challenge envioroment. 2: Don't read and follow the Manufacturers instructions. 3: Don't clean or maintain your equipment. 4: When you have issues, make sure you continue to abuse the grill/smoker the exact same way, because it's not the users fault. 5: Complain when the equipment fails due to user abuse. 6: Tell others not to buy ANY type of pellet grill/smoker because you have no clue how to use them. 7: Keep your equipment in such disrepair and neglect, even to the point of being a health hazard, then blame the grill. 8: Live in Texas, and cook your beef to shoe leather. (Well, guess it's better than the diseases that settled on it.)
Also, I own both a massive stick burning cabinet smoker and a Traeger Pellet Smoker. Neither of my smokers get left out in the weather. My cabinet smoker is in my garage and the Traeger stays outside, fully covered from top to bottom, on a raised platform that is waterproofed and has drainage. Anyone who neglects their equipment and then complains that it's the equipment's fault is a pinecone.
The pellets have swelled up clogging my thing. Great use of knowledge. Maybe don't leave your grill uncovered for starters. I hope no one would ever use this guys reasons on why not to get a pellet smoker. Insane
Problem isn't that it's a pellet grill, or that it's low a quality smoker. It's that you keep it outside uncovered in moist conditions. They are great grills when treated right
Why on Earth would you spend the money on a pellet grill then leave your investment out in the elements? I bought my cover the same day I bought my grill.
You lost me with filming while driving. I was so close to losing my wife to an inattentive driver back in May of 2010. The inattentive driver did not survive.
Tony, Pros and Cons: I have the exact Pit Boss you show in this video. I read the directions and watched as many videos as I could find prior to purchase. In life, I have learned that there is no such thing as fire and forget. Even with a stick grill/smoker you have to tend the thing. You also must maintain any piece of equipment if you expect it to work. I will say this upfront about the Pit Boss Smoker, the controls are in a poor spot and they do not work well at all. I chose to replace mine with an aftermarket PID controller. The retro was effortless and now I can control the temp to within 5 degrees. I am religious about putting water in the pan to help regulate the heat as well. Yet I will tell you that this is still not a startup and forget smoker. None of them are. As for your assertion that they are junk based on the pellets clogging up I must say that the manufacturer specifically states that this will occur if you leave them in the smoker and leave it out in the weather. Therefore after each use, I drain all the pellets into a sealable plastic bucket with an airtight lid. Lastly, the amount of dust is directly related to the quality of the pellets. I have noted that the Pit Boss pellets tend to have more dust than Quisenart and other higher quality pellets. My recommendation to you for cleaning the glass is to use Apple Cider Vinegar and water just after cooking while the glass is still hot. The residue comes off easily. As for the grates and water pan, I use spray-on olive oil and have an easy time cleaning these parts with hot soapy water after each use. I hope these revelations are of help to you and other viewers.
I have the exact same one as well. It works amazing. I leave my pellets in it year round but it is on a covered porch. I love this thing. I always use the water pan as well as it helps maintain temp and helps to keep the meat moist instead of having to spray it periodically. I want to upgrade my controller as well. If you don't mind me asking what controller and where did you get it?
You are better at making babies than steaks. That particular cooker is not made to cook with DIRECT heat. You bought a pellet cooker at Walmart and mad at the quality. FYI it's not pellet cookers that sucks it's you.
Anyone watching this don’t listen to him. He doesn’t know how to take care of a grill. My Traeger is always outside covered full of pellets and and NEVER have pellet issues. He didn’t take precautions for rain
Just a small correction, you have a pellet SMOKER, not a pellet grill. That machine is 100% for smoking meats. Pellet smokers do create smoke rings when used properly.
A smoke ring does not mean anything! The smoke ring is caused by nitrates in the smoke, if you want a smoke ring just spritz your meat with some Celery Juice powder mixed with water and you will get a smoke ring! It is not any indication of smoke flavor at all it is totally dependent on the type of wood you use as different species produce greater or lesser amounts of nitrates as they burn. The Nitrate penetration has NOTHING to do with smoke flavor penetration! Once your piece of meat reaches a temperature of 170F the smoke ring will no longer gain any depth as the Myoglobin in the meat will not react with the nitrates in the smoke any longer, however, the smoke will continue to flavor the meat as long as it is in the smoker! To get more smoke flavor on any smoker, not just a pellet smoker you have to go LOW and SLOW. The smoke flavor is a factor of time exposed to the smoke. Also Smoke is a Particle, it does not penetrate meat to any great extent, it is primarily a surface effect. If you trim off the outer 1/8 to 1/4 inch of a piece of meat you will remove 95% of any smoke flavor you added by smoking it.
That's a smoker, not a grill. Try the pit boss grills. You can grill or smoke with it. Never heard of any problems with the grills, me and 4 family members and 2 friends all have them. Best food any of us have ever cooked was on the pit boss grills
That answered my question. Don't store pellets in the hopper especially in damp rainy weather. Pellets need to be sealed or the draw moisture, won't burn and clog the smoker/grille
That's definitely an issue with not covering it, I cant speak for the smokers, but my grill doesnt have this problem. I leave mine outside uncovered and even after pouring rain the hopper is bone dry
Spends 1st half of video complaining - and then ends up using the pellet grill/smoker anyway? Definition of insanity :) I am looking into a pellet grill/smoker. I have a Weber gasser and a Pit barrel now. Reason I am thinking of abandoning the PBC is because I want something with less babysitting/temp monitoring. An electric pellet grill seems to be the answer. Weber smoke fire looks nice.
All indications from other videos are that vertical smokers are not the best choice for steaks. Every other vertical smoker video that I've seen uses these for low and slow applications. I do steaks on my pellet grill and they come out great. It has a flame broil feature that allows me to cook them fast and hot. I get steak house quality from my pellet grill. I do ribs low and slow and they come out just as good as my old offset smoker. I think that the particular application is key here.
I always get a smoke ring with my pellet cooker on medium to long cooks. When I use Pit Boss pellets they are normally extremely dusty. I have started avoiding Pit Boss and Treagor pellets. I would bet a different pellet cooker would change your experience. Food looks good though!
I had the vertical pit boss smoker , it was a pos didn’t even last a year , errored out anytime I tried to cook over 250 then just completely went out. It was awful
Do not listen to someone firstly who cooks their steak to 151 degrees, med well he says yet when he shook the container it sounded like it had rocks in it, secondly your smoker was filthy boy, if you keep it under a cover and wipe it down like everytime you use it you’d be able to see thru the glass, some people honestly have no clue
I use my Pit Boss 850 pro V2 pellet grill and have no issues with the temp but that’s not a vertical one. But in your case it’s just taking care of your equipment I clean mine after every use and I smoke all the time. I get smoke rings all the time on my pellet smoker maybe it’s just that model. But my PitBoss will leave a nice thick amazing ring. I also like my camp chef smoke vault 24 that is propane. It’s an upright smoker and I use wood chunks for smoke. It is also amazing and produces great smoke flavor it does require more attention to temp as it doesn’t have a computer system to keep it in range. I have therma pro temp tracking to monitor it. For Xmas I made 18 steaks on my PitBoss and reverse seared them on my blackstone with garlic and butter. On my smoke vault I did 6 tritip like a brisket. Everything turned out amazing.
It's not that model. I have that model. I smoke briskets almost every weekend on it.... All have tremendous smoke ring. Of course, I maintain mine according to mfgr recommendations. This guys just CLEARLY doesn't understand that he has a smoker, not a grill (well... he has a grill too, but the Pit Boss vertical is only a smoker). He has no idea what a smoker does or how to use one.
I rarely dislike videos, but I disliked this one the misinformation is crazy. I have a traeger and love it and never have any of the issues you speak of because I routinely clean mine and take care of it.
1) you always need to cover them and this wouldn’t happen. 2) if you still have issues you can just use that chute to take the pellets out after each cook and put them in a box.
How dare a piece of equipment not properly maintain itself, and not jump out of the way when I am careless and dumping grease everywhere!!!....Looks like it was left in the rain, and rarely cleaned. ..... And if it wasn't left in the rain, then it's an issue of a very humid environment that is the culprit, and you clearly shouldn't leave pellets in the hopper when not in use. Thats one of the purposes of the release door. Its not a stick burner. "Pellet smokers do not leave smoke rings...." Thats all you need to know about his level of competence. I get decent smoke rings from my Broil King. My offset does it better of course, but we are talking about a slight tradeoff for convenience. Zero personal responsibility, coupled with unrealistic expectations, is a bad combination.
buy a cover to keep the pellets dry. I bought the lexington wood pellet smoker model number PB500LXW1 and cover. I don't have that problem. I live in a high humidity place called texas on the coast too. When grilling any meat you wont get a smoke flavor either. You had the meat right on the fire. As we all seen in the video.
Dude it's clear you don't take care of your grills - haha, you leave stuff out in the weather and then complain that it got messed up. I would recommend you first invest in a quality one and then invest some time in cleaning and covering it. Also, next time let the steaks rest when pulling them from the grill searing. You took some really great looking steaks and turned them into beef jerky.
Waiting on my 2nd pellet grill , I gave the first one to my son. I had to learn drain the pellets when finished. My master built works fine but can’t get some temps the pit boss give. Pros and cons on all our toys just have to find that happy medium. Do what makes you happy.
This guy literally bought the cheapest piece of junk at Walmart, doesn’t understand its functionality, and makes broad generalizations. You do realize you’re not supposed to get electronics wet? Which is why your pellets swole. Upgrade to a decent grill and keep the thing protected from the rain. I’ve never seen this guy before, but it’s clear that he has absolutely no culinary skills. Well done steaks? Please just go to Waffle House she let people who know what they’re doing make the videos.
Literally there are other cheaper pieces of junk including pitboss products. Functionality is understood but not up to expectations. Thanks for watching 😊
You literally trying to use a low and slow cooker for steaks bro, not sure functionally is quiet understood imo lolz. Reverse sear is one thing, but low n' slow is a whole other departments when talking steak. I mean unless of course you like eating boot skin steaks....
Nobody going to talk about the fact that he rubs his hands all over the meat, then grabs the refrigerator handle with the same gloves but makes a point to close it with his elbow.
I have a propane grill, charcoal grill, and a Treager pellet grill. No issues yet. Nothing like leaving the brisket in the treager at midnight and going to bed. No need to wake up and tend to the coals. Easy
I have that one pluse more never had a problem with mine. . And I always have a cover on mine when not in use. And never had that happen. I love my pellet smoker . And my pellet grill. Two different things .
Anyone who says pellet smokers are a waste of money and cant cook bbq either 1) Can't cook bbq and/or 2) do not know how to use them and shouldn't. More and more bbq smokers are on the competition trail and I can vouch that I, as well as many of my friends, win with them on the GBA trail. The smoker compliments a knowledgeable pitmaster. If you want a solid quality pellet smoker, look at what I use (the LSG 42" Pellet Smoker)
How to solve pellet clogging issues: Step 1: Get a sifter to get the dust and small bits out. Step 2: Buy a grill cover for your smoker. Step 3: Use the sifter with every new pour of pellets and use the cover when you are done. Doing these should prevent you from having to deal with clogging for years, if ever.
Ok, thanks for sharing your experience with tour pitboss but if you buy a lower end pellet smoker, and don't maintain and store it properly this video shows what happens. The best part about any smoker (offset, gravity fed, lump charcoal or pellet poopers) is the experimental trial and error. Try better quality pellets, maintain your smoker which includes cleaning out your smoker once cooled after use and then post a video like this. PROPER storage of your pellet smoker is also crucial. The smoker is a tool and like any type of tool, if you don't maintain it you are destined to have these kinds of issues. I have an offest and a traeger and once I learned how to use it, people couldn't tell the difference between what was smoked/cooked on what. Last point was your claim on "no smoke ring with pellet poopers".... you are 100% wrong. YOU don't see a smoke ring because of how YOU use your pitboss and take care of it.
EXACTLY. I have that exact same Pit Boss pellet smoker and it does amazing. I have guys who only use offset smokers and such ask how I get such a good smoke ring. I tell them I have a pellet smoker and they're in shock. I only use Pit Boss pellets. I follow the book as to cleaning schedules and such. It sets outside year round but on a covered porch with no issues to the pellets or smoker. I leave them in year round as well. He doesn't prepare his meat properly. He doesn't cook it properly. So many things wrong with this video it's not even funny.
Pit Boss is the bottom end of the pellet grills. You get what you pay for. I bought a Rec Tec for twice the price and got a 10 time better grill. I dont use my Weber charcoal kettle anymore. The Rec Tec temperature stays exactly where you set and is has never clogged.
Looks like the same one I have (although mine is in much better condition) and mine goes from "smoke" all the way to "high"... there is no grill setting. But it's very clear that I know nothing. Carry on, grill master.
@@TonyVargas no it doesn't. I have the exact same smoker, and just like @ashleymalone5396 mine goes from "smoke" as the lowest setting, then 25⁰ increments from 150⁰ to 275⁰, then 50⁰ increments from 300⁰ to 400⁰, then "high." NO "GRILL" setting. You're just trying to save face, but don't realize you're using one of the most popular pellet smokers from Pit Boss, meaning many people that see your video have the same smoker.
@@curtisreynolds7375 dude… this video is 4 years old… do you just go around and comment numerous times on old outdated videos? Forget the video - go out and make some friends, get a hobby, get off the computer! Jesum Crowe
@@TonyVargas because I'm waiting for you to admit you had no clue what the tool you were using was, much less how to use it. And that every single thing you complained about was either your own misuse of the tool, or your own total lack of knowledge about the tool.
8:00 in. You buy a pellet smoker, do not follow any of the recommendations for use, obviously NEVER clean it like is recommended to do, have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how to use a pellet smoker, and then complain that it's a waste of money, and worthless, and all the problems (that the recommendations are there to prevent... RTFM). Mine sits out on an uncovered patio all the time. I've NEVER had the issues you've described in the video so far. Of course, I clean the burn pot after every cook (or before the next cook), wipe my ambient temp sensor with a 3M green pad regularly, and USE A WATER PROOF COVER!!!!! Let's continue.
I really do hope you're being sarcastic, and DID in fact, buy a pellet grill if you wanted to. And PLEASE understand a pellet smoker is not a pellet grill. Vertical smokers are NOT grills. They are specifically smokers. If you want to use a pellet smoker as a grill, buy a pellet grill. NOT A VERTICAL SMOKER. And NEVER listen to this dude. He has absolutely no idea what he's doing. He has the right tools for just about every kind of cook he wants to do... he just doesn't know which one to use for what. And PLEASE never ever let your choice of smoker/grill get into such a state of disrepair and abuse as this dude's.
You gotta learn you pellet grill! 1. Never store pellets in the grill. Always drain the pellets and burn the remaining pellets out after cooking! Also, you didn't need to disassemble the grill to unjam the auger. Just drain the pellets and use a broom handle to unjam while the auger is turning. Furthermore, you need a pellet grill for long smokes, like ribs, brisket etc. YOUR VIDEO IS ALL THE WAY WRONG!!!!!
Tell me you’re not driving with the baby in the car and trying hold a camera? Now Regarding the pellets and dirty glass it just shows how lazy you are at keeping your equipment clean. This is just poor maintenance from the owner 😂
I never clean my glass in the door. Not that it matters. I just have to open the door to see the food. Just like on a standard offset barrel type. Only take a minute or so to get back up to temp inside. So... I don't really need the glass. The chamber is so full of smoke anyway, you can't see anything.
I've had two Pit Boss smokers for 2 years, an Austin and a CH3 never had any major problems. Most problems you have are user error, both or mine hold temp well within reasonable limits -/+ 15 degress.
Lmaoooo do you even know how much temperature fluctuation occurs in an offset (not “side burner”) smoker? Also… you’re supposed to care for your fuel. Just as you would with a stick burner… I can’t believe you’re blaming the smoker on your lack of attention to detail.
I usually don't criticize , however this is clearly a case of user error. You can't leave pellets in the smoker for any more than a day or two, and that is only if you are using it fairly often. Dude, please take the time to read the manual, pellet smokers can get you reasonably close to stick burner flavor if you learn how to use the machine correctly and experiment with different pellets because they are not all the same both in flavor and quality.
Holy hell cover your steaks in the fridge and take care of your pellet smoker. It’s common sense to take pellets out of your hopper if you live in a high humidity area or an area with lots of rain. If you have a covered porch you can get away with keeping them in, but you should regularly clean your pellet smoker to via the owners manual. Also all that rust in there surely isn’t healthy to ingest.
I've had a Rec Tec 680 since 2017. It has been a workhorse. I keep mine in a smokehouse. I bought it because babysitting a pit for brisket left me wiped out the next day. If you want a great pellet smoker, give Rec Teq a look (Www.recteq.com).
12:30 - Your BIGGEST mistake. You don't know what tool you're using. IT'S NOT A GRILL. A vertical smoker is just that... A SMOKER!!! NOT A GRILL!!!! Yes... offsets are both smokers and grills (or can be), kettle grills can be both smokers and grills. VERTICAL SMOKERS ARE NOT INTENDED TO "GRILL" STEAK!!!! Use the right tool for the job!!!
Your issues are maintenance, not the grill. Pellets should not be stored in the grill outside, or in any moisture environment, and you may not, have heard the term, CLEAN things. Basic cleaning and maintenance, and you wouldnt have 99% of the issues you said you have.
Why buy a knockoff Pellet vertical Smoker when you already have a Kamado ceramic Smoker that does exactly the same thing. You could just put FOOD GRADE pellets in it and call it a day
5:40 in. And already another critical thing... IT'S NOT COVERED!!!!! You store it .... UNCOVERED. On an open, UNCOVERED patio. A SOLID nah dawg, for a pellet smoker. I can't express it enough cover cover cover cover cover WHEN NOT IN USE!!!!!!
So let me understand something. You trash all pellet smokers because of the one experience you had with it? So do you never go out to eat ever again because you had a bad experience at a restaurant? Because under your logic since it was a resultant they all will be bad.
This should be a video on how not to take care of your smoker
Yeah. Seems like a lot of this is simple cleaning and maintenance.
Why would you leave the grill outdoors when you now its not good due to the moisture you jack ass. Your the problem not the grill.
He clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing 🤦♂️ Common sense should’ve told him to keep all electrical devices covered if storing outside lol. “Some men you just can’t reach.”
It’s also an instructional video on how not to cook your steaks.
Dude, there's a lot of issues with this video... First of all, I can't take the opinion of someone who eats their steak medium well. If you're trying to "dry brine" your stewks to get the flavor in it, it should be on a wire rack. Alton Brown did an episode on it. Lastly, your pellet issue is because you leave it outside, and apparently uncovered. It even states in the manual not to do that, that's why the pellets jammed. The moisture from the air and possibly rain that got inside.
Ryan Kukla spot on, man. I have 3 pellet grills. I NEVER have a problem with any of them. They are out in all kinds of weather, all year long. I keep them covered from the rain so i have zero problems.
This guy is a lazy pig. If he would clean it out he wouldn't have this problem. There is a reason there is a clean out door for the pellets so you can dump what you don't use. I put mine in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and clean it after every use and never had a problem.
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151 degrees! I pull mine at around 126-128 and if they get over 132 I feel I have failed myself and my wife and kids! Hahaha.
Brisket I will pull between 200 and 205 and then open rest down to 170 and then rest in a cooler for the next hour or two (or more) down to 145-ish, for serving temps.
This smoker looks like it was not maintained at all, and you are correct - my dad has had a pit boss for well over a year and cooks on it every weekend, even leaves it out in his pergola (covered) and has never once had a problem with major issues or temperature fluctuations. However, he cleans it after every use. Everyone in my family has at least 2 or 3 grills and we all have heavy duty offset stick burners as well as pellet grills and some even have some weird Brazilian open flame, built in pits and other whole pig rotisserie as well and all of the pits get cleaned after they are used and cool down. It's part of normal maintenance on any tool that is used - 'clean after use'
I agree… if you eat your steak med well you should not be allowed to have a grill let alone buy a steak
It looks like those glasses were a waste of money. Maybe if you cleaned and stored that smoker correctly it wouldn't be in such bad shape.
Great instructional video on how NOT to treat your equipment.
You know, I bought a camp Chef pellet smoker when it first came out, never had a problem with it. Last year I upgraded to a newer Camp Chef pellet smoker/grill And it works great! The old one is still working fine too. The problem with yours isn't the smoker, It's the person operating it! If you learn how to operate your smoker right, take care of it, maintain it, use it correctly, then you should be happy with food that the pellet smoker puts out.
Darin you are absolutely spot on , nothing personal Tony but it is painfully apparent you do not take care of your vertical smoker and it is a vertical pellet smoker not a pellet grill. I have owned my pellet grill for 8 years and never had the issue Tony is talking about. I love my grill and so does my family for what it does for the meat I cook on it . The vertical smoker in your video looks 20 years old because its not taken care of. If Tony cleans it up and maintains it he will be very happy with it .
@@frankgoin3463same with me . I have that exact one .and a pellet grill. Pb 820 sp. Never had a problem with mine and have covers on all when not in use .
The problem is you don’t take care of your investment!!! You my friend are the problem!!!
Pray for this man. the poor guy is uncomfortable in the bed he has made for himself. Lack of knowlege and understanding is a sad state of affairs indeed.
Pray for wisdom!!!
"How To NOT use and maintain a Pellet Smoker".
1: Leave it out, full of pellets, in a "wet weather" challenge envioroment.
2: Don't read and follow the Manufacturers instructions.
3: Don't clean or maintain your equipment.
4: When you have issues, make sure you continue to abuse the grill/smoker the exact same way, because it's not the users fault.
5: Complain when the equipment fails due to user abuse.
6: Tell others not to buy ANY type of pellet grill/smoker because you have no clue how to use them.
7: Keep your equipment in such disrepair and neglect, even to the point of being a health hazard, then blame the grill.
8: Live in Texas, and cook your beef to shoe leather. (Well, guess it's better than the diseases that settled on it.)
😂🤣😂🤣.. Damn Tony I have never issues with Traeger Grill Smoker
Just saved me watching it. He lost me with the intro.
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Native Texan here.....we don't claim this guy. We eat our steaks with a hard sear for crust formation and finished to medium rare on the inside.
Also, I own both a massive stick burning cabinet smoker and a Traeger Pellet Smoker. Neither of my smokers get left out in the weather. My cabinet smoker is in my garage and the Traeger stays outside, fully covered from top to bottom, on a raised platform that is waterproofed and has drainage. Anyone who neglects their equipment and then complains that it's the equipment's fault is a pinecone.
Clean it everytime and you won’t have issues and keep pellets in air tight containers
The pellets have swelled up clogging my thing. Great use of knowledge. Maybe don't leave your grill uncovered for starters. I hope no one would ever use this guys reasons on why not to get a pellet smoker. Insane
Problem isn't that it's a pellet grill, or that it's low a quality smoker. It's that you keep it outside uncovered in moist conditions. They are great grills when treated right
Why on Earth would you spend the money on a pellet grill then leave your investment out in the elements? I bought my cover the same day I bought my grill.
You lost me with filming while driving. I was so close to losing my wife to an inattentive driver back in May of 2010. The inattentive driver did not survive.
Yeah why the fuck would someone do this. At least don't constantly stare into the camera
This idiot lets go off the steering wheel a couple times as well
Tony, Pros and Cons: I have the exact Pit Boss you show in this video. I read the directions and watched as many videos as I could find prior to purchase. In life, I have learned that there is no such thing as fire and forget. Even with a stick grill/smoker you have to tend the thing. You also must maintain any piece of equipment if you expect it to work. I will say this upfront about the Pit Boss Smoker, the controls are in a poor spot and they do not work well at all. I chose to replace mine with an aftermarket PID controller. The retro was effortless and now I can control the temp to within 5 degrees. I am religious about putting water in the pan to help regulate the heat as well. Yet I will tell you that this is still not a startup and forget smoker. None of them are. As for your assertion that they are junk based on the pellets clogging up I must say that the manufacturer specifically states that this will occur if you leave them in the smoker and leave it out in the weather. Therefore after each use, I drain all the pellets into a sealable plastic bucket with an airtight lid. Lastly, the amount of dust is directly related to the quality of the pellets. I have noted that the Pit Boss pellets tend to have more dust than Quisenart and other higher quality pellets. My recommendation to you for cleaning the glass is to use Apple Cider Vinegar and water just after cooking while the glass is still hot. The residue comes off easily. As for the grates and water pan, I use spray-on olive oil and have an easy time cleaning these parts with hot soapy water after each use. I hope these revelations are of help to you and other viewers.
I have the exact same one as well. It works amazing. I leave my pellets in it year round but it is on a covered porch. I love this thing. I always use the water pan as well as it helps maintain temp and helps to keep the meat moist instead of having to spray it periodically. I want to upgrade my controller as well. If you don't mind me asking what controller and where did you get it?
@@johndavid1323 Did Jack ever reply? I have the same smoker too. I'm looking for a better PID controller.
You are better at making babies than steaks. That particular cooker is not made to cook with DIRECT heat. You bought a pellet cooker at Walmart and mad at the quality. FYI it's not pellet cookers that sucks it's you.
You lost me at medium well.... perfect way to ruin a good piece of meat
Absolutely. Just throw it in the crock pot if you're going to do that.
Pellet smokers definitely leave smoke rings. Pulled pork, brisket, ribs, anything your cooking for more than an hour
I have no words for this video!!!! Just horrible on so many levels....
Anyone watching this don’t listen to him. He doesn’t know how to take care of a grill. My Traeger is always outside covered full of pellets and and NEVER have pellet issues. He didn’t take precautions for rain
When you do your research the first thing people say is not to leave this pellet smoker outside, which gets the pellets wet.
Just a small correction, you have a pellet SMOKER, not a pellet grill.
That machine is 100% for smoking meats.
Pellet smokers do create smoke rings when used properly.
A smoke ring does not mean anything! The smoke ring is caused by nitrates in the smoke, if you want a smoke ring just spritz your meat with some Celery Juice powder mixed with water and you will get a smoke ring! It is not any indication of smoke flavor at all it is totally dependent on the type of wood you use as different species produce greater or lesser amounts of nitrates as they burn. The Nitrate penetration has NOTHING to do with smoke flavor penetration! Once your piece of meat reaches a temperature of 170F the smoke ring will no longer gain any depth as the Myoglobin in the meat will not react with the nitrates in the smoke any longer, however, the smoke will continue to flavor the meat as long as it is in the smoker! To get more smoke flavor on any smoker, not just a pellet smoker you have to go LOW and SLOW. The smoke flavor is a factor of time exposed to the smoke. Also Smoke is a Particle, it does not penetrate meat to any great extent, it is primarily a surface effect. If you trim off the outer 1/8 to 1/4 inch of a piece of meat you will remove 95% of any smoke flavor you added by smoking it.
That's a smoker, not a grill. Try the pit boss grills. You can grill or smoke with it. Never heard of any problems with the grills, me and 4 family members and 2 friends all have them. Best food any of us have ever cooked was on the pit boss grills
I have 3 pit bosses. Austin XL, memphis 4 in 1 and pro series 5 vertical. All do really well for me and my family.
I saw the steaks and said what a waste of some great looking steaks you over cooked them 😢
That answered my question. Don't store pellets in the hopper especially in damp rainy weather. Pellets need to be sealed or the draw moisture, won't burn and clog the smoker/grille
That's definitely an issue with not covering it, I cant speak for the smokers, but my grill doesnt have this problem. I leave mine outside uncovered and even after pouring rain the hopper is bone dry
Spends 1st half of video complaining - and then ends up using the pellet grill/smoker anyway? Definition of insanity :)
I am looking into a pellet grill/smoker. I have a Weber gasser and a Pit barrel now. Reason I am thinking of abandoning the PBC is because I want something with less babysitting/temp monitoring. An electric pellet grill seems to be the answer. Weber smoke fire looks nice.
All indications from other videos are that vertical smokers are not the best choice for steaks. Every other vertical smoker video that I've seen uses these for low and slow applications. I do steaks on my pellet grill and they come out great. It has a flame broil feature that allows me to cook them fast and hot. I get steak house quality from my pellet grill. I do ribs low and slow and they come out just as good as my old offset smoker. I think that the particular application is key here.
reverse sear steaks
I always get a smoke ring with my pellet cooker on medium to long cooks.
When I use Pit Boss pellets they are normally extremely dusty. I have started avoiding Pit Boss and Treagor pellets.
I would bet a different pellet cooker would change your experience. Food looks good though!
I think your problem is leaving it in the weather and your pellets got wet!
Sorry but that’s not a pellet grill. It’s a pellet smoker.
True..but it does have the ability to "cook" at temps up to 500 degrees..thus in theory, allowing it to grill.
I had the vertical pit boss smoker , it was a pos didn’t even last a year , errored out anytime I tried to cook over 250 then just completely went out. It was awful
@@TonyVargas if u wanted to grill you should of got the horizontal one
My sisters hair straightener goes up to 500 degrees, theoretically that can grill too.
Literally says in the owners manual to not leave pellets in it for an extended period of time.
Every single one of your complaints, are 100% your fault! NOT THE PELLET SMOKER!
Do not listen to someone firstly who cooks their steak to 151 degrees, med well he says yet when he shook the container it sounded like it had rocks in it, secondly your smoker was filthy boy, if you keep it under a cover and wipe it down like everytime you use it you’d be able to see thru the glass, some people honestly have no clue
I use my Pit Boss 850 pro V2 pellet grill and have no issues with the temp but that’s not a vertical one. But in your case it’s just taking care of your equipment I clean mine after every use and I smoke all the time.
I get smoke rings all the time on my pellet smoker maybe it’s just that model. But my PitBoss will leave a nice thick amazing ring.
I also like my camp chef smoke vault 24 that is propane. It’s an upright smoker and I use wood chunks for smoke. It is also amazing and produces great smoke flavor it does require more attention to temp as it doesn’t have a computer system to keep it in range. I have therma pro temp tracking to monitor it.
For Xmas I made 18 steaks on my PitBoss and reverse seared them on my blackstone with garlic and butter. On my smoke vault I did 6 tritip like a brisket. Everything turned out amazing.
It's not that model. I have that model. I smoke briskets almost every weekend on it.... All have tremendous smoke ring. Of course, I maintain mine according to mfgr recommendations. This guys just CLEARLY doesn't understand that he has a smoker, not a grill (well... he has a grill too, but the Pit Boss vertical is only a smoker). He has no idea what a smoker does or how to use one.
You need to watch videos of how to clean your smoker.
I rarely dislike videos, but I disliked this one the misinformation is crazy. I have a traeger and love it and never have any of the issues you speak of because I routinely clean mine and take care of it.
1) you always need to cover them and this wouldn’t happen. 2) if you still have issues you can just use that chute to take the pellets out after each cook and put them in a box.
How dare a piece of equipment not properly maintain itself, and not jump out of the way when I am careless and dumping grease everywhere!!!....Looks like it was left in the rain, and rarely cleaned. .....
And if it wasn't left in the rain, then it's an issue of a very humid environment that is the culprit, and you clearly shouldn't leave pellets in the hopper when not in use. Thats one of the purposes of the release door. Its not a stick burner.
"Pellet smokers do not leave smoke rings...."
Thats all you need to know about his level of competence. I get decent smoke rings from my Broil King. My offset does it better of course, but we are talking about a slight tradeoff for convenience.
Zero personal responsibility, coupled with unrealistic expectations, is a bad combination.
buy a cover to keep the pellets dry. I bought the lexington wood pellet smoker model number PB500LXW1 and cover. I don't have that problem. I live in a high humidity place called texas on the coast too. When grilling any meat you wont get a smoke flavor either. You had the meat right on the fire. As we all seen in the video.
Pellet smokers don't do smoke rings? False... Read the science behind it before making a false statement..
You don't really expect him to understand "the science," do you?
Dude it's clear you don't take care of your grills - haha, you leave stuff out in the weather and then complain that it got messed up. I would recommend you first invest in a quality one and then invest some time in cleaning and covering it. Also, next time let the steaks rest when pulling them from the grill searing. You took some really great looking steaks and turned them into beef jerky.
Didn't read the owner's manual, yep. Your fault, not the grill's.
Waiting on my 2nd pellet grill , I gave the first one to my son. I had to learn drain the pellets when finished. My master built works fine but can’t get some temps the pit boss give. Pros and cons on all our toys just have to find that happy medium. Do what makes you happy.
This guy literally bought the cheapest piece of junk at Walmart, doesn’t understand its functionality, and makes broad generalizations.
You do realize you’re not supposed to get electronics wet? Which is why your pellets swole. Upgrade to a decent grill and keep the thing protected from the rain.
I’ve never seen this guy before, but it’s clear that he has absolutely no culinary skills. Well done steaks? Please just go to Waffle House she let people who know what they’re doing make the videos.
Literally there are other cheaper pieces of junk including pitboss products. Functionality is understood but not up to expectations. Thanks for watching 😊
You literally trying to use a low and slow cooker for steaks bro, not sure functionally is quiet understood imo lolz.
Reverse sear is one thing, but low n' slow is a whole other departments when talking steak.
I mean unless of course you like eating boot skin steaks....
Nobody going to talk about the fact that he rubs his hands all over the meat, then grabs the refrigerator handle with the same gloves but makes a point to close it with his elbow.
I have a propane grill, charcoal grill, and a Treager pellet grill. No issues yet. Nothing like leaving the brisket in the treager at midnight and going to bed. No need to wake up and tend to the coals. Easy
Looks like your leaving the pellets in the grill, They're getting wet from the morning mist and then falling apart.. this is user error.
I have that one pluse more never had a problem with mine. . And I always have a cover on mine when not in use. And never had that happen. I love my pellet smoker . And my pellet grill. Two different things .
Probably easier to just keep the bastard covered, right?
You have to take the time to clean the glass every time you use it if you want to see your food cook
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Anyone who says pellet smokers are a waste of money and cant cook bbq either 1) Can't cook bbq and/or 2) do not know how to use them and shouldn't. More and more bbq smokers are on the competition trail and I can vouch that I, as well as many of my friends, win with them on the GBA trail. The smoker compliments a knowledgeable pitmaster. If you want a solid quality pellet smoker, look at what I use (the LSG 42" Pellet Smoker)
How to solve pellet clogging issues:
Step 1: Get a sifter to get the dust and small bits out.
Step 2: Buy a grill cover for your smoker.
Step 3: Use the sifter with every new pour of pellets and use the cover when you are done.
Doing these should prevent you from having to deal with clogging for years, if ever.
Ok, thanks for sharing your experience with tour pitboss but if you buy a lower end pellet smoker, and don't maintain and store it properly this video shows what happens. The best part about any smoker (offset, gravity fed, lump charcoal or pellet poopers) is the experimental trial and error. Try better quality pellets, maintain your smoker which includes cleaning out your smoker once cooled after use and then post a video like this. PROPER storage of your pellet smoker is also crucial. The smoker is a tool and like any type of tool, if you don't maintain it you are destined to have these kinds of issues. I have an offest and a traeger and once I learned how to use it, people couldn't tell the difference between what was smoked/cooked on what. Last point was your claim on "no smoke ring with pellet poopers".... you are 100% wrong. YOU don't see a smoke ring because of how YOU use your pitboss and take care of it.
EXACTLY. I have that exact same Pit Boss pellet smoker and it does amazing. I have guys who only use offset smokers and such ask how I get such a good smoke ring. I tell them I have a pellet smoker and they're in shock. I only use Pit Boss pellets. I follow the book as to cleaning schedules and such. It sets outside year round but on a covered porch with no issues to the pellets or smoker. I leave them in year round as well. He doesn't prepare his meat properly. He doesn't cook it properly. So many things wrong with this video it's not even funny.
Use a sifter on your pellets before you add them to a pellet smoker.
Pit Boss is the bottom end of the pellet grills. You get what you pay for. I bought a Rec Tec for twice the price and got a 10 time better grill. I dont use my Weber charcoal kettle anymore. The Rec Tec temperature stays exactly where you set and is has never clogged.
Points to a vertical SMOKER and calls it a grill. A pocket knife isn't a screwdriver, although it can be used as one.
So let’s ignore the fact it has a “grill” setting on it and is sold and advertised also as a grill…. Outstanding argument Ashley.
Looks like the same one I have (although mine is in much better condition) and mine goes from "smoke" all the way to "high"... there is no grill setting. But it's very clear that I know nothing. Carry on, grill master.
@@TonyVargas no it doesn't. I have the exact same smoker, and just like @ashleymalone5396 mine goes from "smoke" as the lowest setting, then 25⁰ increments from 150⁰ to 275⁰, then 50⁰ increments from 300⁰ to 400⁰, then "high." NO "GRILL" setting. You're just trying to save face, but don't realize you're using one of the most popular pellet smokers from Pit Boss, meaning many people that see your video have the same smoker.
@@curtisreynolds7375 dude… this video is 4 years old… do you just go around and comment numerous times on old outdated videos? Forget the video - go out and make some friends, get a hobby, get off the computer! Jesum Crowe
@@TonyVargas because I'm waiting for you to admit you had no clue what the tool you were using was, much less how to use it. And that every single thing you complained about was either your own misuse of the tool, or your own total lack of knowledge about the tool.
Reading the comments pretty much told me what I needed to know..you need to learn to use pellet grill..that is just a smoker
Did you mean to say your grill sucks? Not all pellet grills are created equal.
8:00 in. You buy a pellet smoker, do not follow any of the recommendations for use, obviously NEVER clean it like is recommended to do, have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how to use a pellet smoker, and then complain that it's a waste of money, and worthless, and all the problems (that the recommendations are there to prevent... RTFM). Mine sits out on an uncovered patio all the time. I've NEVER had the issues you've described in the video so far. Of course, I clean the burn pot after every cook (or before the next cook), wipe my ambient temp sensor with a 3M green pad regularly, and USE A WATER PROOF COVER!!!!! Let's continue.
This guy obviously takes care of his equipment 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Really glad I watched this. I was about to buy a pellet grill. Thanks for sharing!
I really do hope you're being sarcastic, and DID in fact, buy a pellet grill if you wanted to. And PLEASE understand a pellet smoker is not a pellet grill. Vertical smokers are NOT grills. They are specifically smokers. If you want to use a pellet smoker as a grill, buy a pellet grill. NOT A VERTICAL SMOKER. And NEVER listen to this dude. He has absolutely no idea what he's doing. He has the right tools for just about every kind of cook he wants to do... he just doesn't know which one to use for what. And PLEASE never ever let your choice of smoker/grill get into such a state of disrepair and abuse as this dude's.
Those steaks looked great..! Good thing you cleaned out that pellet smoker before the cook..
They looked great before he burned them to a crisp.
You gotta learn you pellet grill! 1. Never store pellets in the grill. Always drain the pellets and burn the remaining pellets out after cooking! Also, you didn't need to disassemble the grill to unjam the auger. Just drain the pellets and use a broom handle to unjam while the auger is turning. Furthermore, you need a pellet grill for long smokes, like ribs, brisket etc. YOUR VIDEO IS ALL THE WAY WRONG!!!!!
Tell me you’re not driving with the baby in the car and trying hold a camera? Now Regarding the pellets and dirty glass it just shows how lazy you are at keeping your equipment clean. This is just poor maintenance from the owner 😂
I never clean my glass in the door. Not that it matters. I just have to open the door to see the food. Just like on a standard offset barrel type. Only take a minute or so to get back up to temp inside. So... I don't really need the glass. The chamber is so full of smoke anyway, you can't see anything.
This guy really out here turning pellets into cat litter.....
I've had two Pit Boss smokers for 2 years, an Austin and a CH3 never had any major problems. Most problems you have are user error, both or mine hold temp well within reasonable limits
-/+ 15 degress.
Well I just wasted 15 mins of my life.
Lmaoooo do you even know how much temperature fluctuation occurs in an offset (not “side burner”) smoker? Also… you’re supposed to care for your fuel. Just as you would with a stick burner… I can’t believe you’re blaming the smoker on your lack of attention to detail.
You remind me of the Pssssssst guy, but for real.
The who???
Tell me you’re not driving with the baby in the car and trying hold a camera?
I love my offset smoker love tinkering with it to keep a good temp but! I gotta give it to my oaklahoma pellet smoker. It is consistent every time.
Wrong.
Pellet grills are amazing.
I usually don't criticize , however this is clearly a case of user error. You can't leave pellets in the smoker for any more than a day or two, and that is only if you are using it fairly often. Dude, please take the time to read the manual, pellet smokers can get you reasonably close to stick burner flavor if you learn how to use the machine correctly and experiment with different pellets because they are not all the same both in flavor and quality.
Holy hell cover your steaks in the fridge and take care of your pellet smoker. It’s common sense to take pellets out of your hopper if you live in a high humidity area or an area with lots of rain. If you have a covered porch you can get away with keeping them in, but you should regularly clean your pellet smoker to via the owners manual. Also all that rust in there surely isn’t healthy to ingest.
Medium well? I'm now ignoring everything u just said
Cleaning the temp probe might help fix temperature issues
A poor musician always blames his instruments....
I've had a Rec Tec 680 since 2017. It has been a workhorse.
I keep mine in a smokehouse.
I bought it because babysitting a pit for brisket left me wiped out the next day.
If you want a great pellet smoker, give Rec Teq a look (Www.recteq.com).
The problem isnt with pellet grills, it's with the terrible design of pit boss.
12:30 - Your BIGGEST mistake. You don't know what tool you're using. IT'S NOT A GRILL. A vertical smoker is just that... A SMOKER!!! NOT A GRILL!!!! Yes... offsets are both smokers and grills (or can be), kettle grills can be both smokers and grills. VERTICAL SMOKERS ARE NOT INTENDED TO "GRILL" STEAK!!!! Use the right tool for the job!!!
you sir need a few lessons on how to maintain and store all of your BBQ equipment.
Your issues are maintenance, not the grill. Pellets should not be stored in the grill outside, or in any moisture environment, and you may not, have heard the term, CLEAN things. Basic cleaning and maintenance, and you wouldnt have 99% of the issues you said you have.
You shouldn't be allowed to operate a pellet smoker....period.
@@RobertCole-fl1to thank you Robert for your infinite words of wisdom
Why buy a knockoff Pellet vertical Smoker when you already have a Kamado ceramic Smoker that does exactly the same thing.
You could just put FOOD GRADE pellets in it and call it a day
Why didn't you remove the pellets after the cook? Also what Ryan Kukla said....
Lmao, clearly you know nothing about pellet grills
I have a Green Mountain and its almost 10 yrs old and it stays outside but with a cover on it all times.
5:40 in. And already another critical thing... IT'S NOT COVERED!!!!! You store it .... UNCOVERED. On an open, UNCOVERED patio. A SOLID nah dawg, for a pellet smoker. I can't express it enough cover cover cover cover cover WHEN NOT IN USE!!!!!!
Just bought a recteq rt 1000. Seared and smoked steakhouse quality porterhouses just last night.
Dude clean your shit. I love my pit boss it’s reliable and holds temp perfectly for me.
He said there not even pellets there saw dust😭 the pellets are made from hard wood saw dust! This frckn guy!
With all due respect, you use it wrong.
What are your thoughts on masterbuilt pellet smoker? It's design seems to be more logical and very minimum waste of pellets.
Ummmm.... I'm not aware of a masterbuilt "pellet" smoker.
So let me understand something. You trash all pellet smokers because of the one experience you had with it? So do you never go out to eat ever again because you had a bad experience at a restaurant? Because under your logic since it was a resultant they all will be bad.
We're can I get those sunglasses. Freaking love them.
I hope pit boss sees this.
YEAH.....!!!!!, and bans him from using there gear for life.....
Those steaks would be going back to the store if they have brown spots like that.
I stopped listening when he said medium well....
The whole video is summed up at 12:08. If you just want to get right to it skip to that point.
In the north east medium well is about 135-140 degrees .. ( steak at 151 is wow )
Don't be so negative about pellet grills if you don't like them keep it to yourself
The irony coming from your negative comment that you failed to keep you yourself…
Your implication is that all pellet (smokers) are a waste, that’s deff a cheaper model you have.