EXILEO I agree. It always pisses me off when those experts think If it’s not exactly the same it’s fake. Mine is different every time I sign something lol
Signatures do change over time. Sometimes a lot. Sometimes a little. My signature has changed very little over the years (but that's neither here nor there). That's why the expert is (likely) comparing the alleged signatures to known, verified signatures written around the same time. For example, if someone brought in a Ringo Starr signature and claimed it was signed in 1965, the expert would find an example of a verified Ringo Starr signature from around 1965 to compare it to.
Garrett law nah he’s a fraud, I’m sure he probably got some knowledge from faking it all those years at a pretty legit company, but still he got sued and got caught slipping haha.
The first electric computer came out around the 40's, yet it wasn't until the 80's, 90's when one would consider them "around". I'd even say the personal computer didn't became mainstream until early 2000, and only became an everyday standard object when they were re-conceptualized as smartphones, which is just 10 years ago.
Well it looks WAY better than my Kevin Youkilis ball!!! But that was a game ball! From regular season play in '07. But to me that Fenway infield dirt just makes it look BETTER! (Also I DO keep it in a case!!!)
On top of that it’s not just Ken Lehman it’s also Elmer Valo, Ed Roebuck and Carl Erskine even doe Carl was with the Dodgers in 1959 he only played 2 months on that season before retiring So this ball is understandable in the $400 range forsure despite having players like Sandy Koufax and Duke Snider. Non of the guys I listed were ever part of the 1959 World Series Champions this guy tbh didn’t do his research on some of these guys
Start by looking at the actual baseball itself. It's a William White Official Nation League Ball, which existed between 1989-1994. So yeah, obviously it wasn't signed in the 50s.
as a collector, Sandy Koufax's auto on a ball is worth the 450 on its own. having all the others on there, especially Drysdale, puts it up over a grand easily.
I think it has to do with the fact it’s NOT a World Series ball and the signatures on the ball The fact it’s just a team ball and not a championship team ball I can see how the value went down
Sandy Koufax was a really good pitcher? Are you serious? The man may be the best pitcher to ever throw a baseball. And not even mentioning Drysdale is an insult
Ryan has 7 no-hitters, Koufax has 4, including a perfect game. It's like saying getting 7 silver medals at the Olympics is better than 3 silvers and a gold
Wahoo a perfect game? Yeah a no-hitter is hard to do but a perfect game is obviously harder. When you look at it plainly, Sandy Koufax achieved perfection in his career; Nolan Ryan did not. And 108.1 means nothing if you can't locate. You want to talk about records? How about most career walks? Only pitcher to have over 2,000? And he holds that record with distinction.
1) We aren't talking about a statistic that's measured against a hitter; we're talking about pitch speeds. Pretty much the only criteria that's needed is that it's recorded in some form. Maybe someone in history has thrown a baseball at a faster speed, but we can only debate what has been documented in the history books. And Dalkowski has thrown the fastest recorded pitch. 2) I'm talking about perfect games. Koufax threw a perfect game, therefore Koufax has achieved perfection in his career. Ryan never threw a perfect game, therefore he has not achieved perfection in his career. 3) As we both can see, 'better' is a subjective term. There are lots of points I can give that support my opinion that Koufax was better. Ryan never won a Cy Young; Koufax won three. Ryan never won an MVP; Koufax has. Ryan has one ring, Koufax has four. And of course, Koufax is one of the select few pitchers in history to have ever thrown a perfect game; Ryan isn't.
Ken Lehman pitched a total of 72 innings for the Brooklyn Dodgers between 1952 and 1957. His contract was purchased by the Baltimore Orioles in the middle of the 1957 season.
Matt Moser and i thought i was the only one! Lol. Its like he forgot he has lost some weight and still feels the need to swing his arm around is fatass self
You can tell the guy knew it wasn't actually a World Series ball and was trying to scam the shop by how nervous he got and how fast he dropped that $3000 to $750 as a final ploy to seal the scam.
Bro the fact it was claimed to be a Brooklyn Dodgers signed ball from 1959 was a big red flag Since the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles after the 1957 season!
Sandy Koufax on a ball goes for $1500. Drysdale can go up to $500 depending on the condition, not to mention the other signatures. But yet they offer $250 ahah
It was the 1965 world series that Koufax refused to pitch because of yom kippur, not the 1961 World Series, besides the 1961 world series was between the Yankees and Reds
first off yea, he doesn't take care of the ball at all. keeping it in a baggie and holding it in his dirty hands almost made me sick....Pawn Stars rips people off though, good luck finding a baseball just signed by Sandy Koufax for $450... more like over a grand not to mention the other greats on that ball....I know its a business but don't get greedy and you know they tell there "experts" to give them LOW estimates.
The guy checking out the signatures just had a pic of that ball on his iPad, zoomed in on the signature and said it was authentic because it matches the ball! Obviously it will!!!
Having a signed ball from the 1957 Brooklyn Dodgers is even more valuable than the 1959 Los Angles Dodgers that won the World Series. Last team ever in Brooklyn.
He made two mistakes at least: 1) in 1959, everybody loved Sandy Koufax. he wasn't disliked by many. 2) In 1959, we had ball point pens in general use.
He should’ve known the ball was newer because It’s not a Spaulding brand and the commissioner who’s autograph is stamped on is wasn’t the commissioner in 59
I have a Jim Bunning signed ball that's worth more then what they offered him. That ball is pretty valuable. He would have to be stupid to accept $250 for it
A lot of people think they know how pawn shop works but in reality they don't most of the pawn shop will ripped you off because they want to have as much as profit as possible if you get ripped off by a pawnshop its you're own fault for not knowing the retail price of the stuff you are selling to them
These people go and buy stuff off the internet w/o having it checked first and then when the value is less than what they were told they look foolish. It doesn't matter what an item is worth, IT'S WHAT SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.
@jesusisnotallright s Bud, you sound like a foolish child. As many people have already pointed out, a ball signed by Sandy Koufax goes for $450 by itself easily, not to mention all of the other signatures on the ball. The guy is not a fool.
This must have been before the show’s fact checkers time as well. Sandy Koufax was a GREAT pitcher. He was also largely respected for observing his religious obligations and has a stellar reputation as gentlemen. A few years after his retirement, when he was doing color for NBC’s Game of The Week, I got his autograph outside the old Yankee Stadium. He must have signed a hundred...he was as friendly, warm and gracious as any athlete or celebrity I’ve ever encountered. Controversial???
That appraiser flat out lied to him, that ball is worth at least 1500 for multiple reasons, he really low balled that guy, I mean the ball was in no way worth 3500, but definitely would fetch 1500 in the shop, maybe even more at auction. That was a very nice collectors ball.
So people’s signatures can never vary? If I became famous and I signed an autograph a little differently one time people would think it was fake years later??
I don't even understand people looking at signatures, mine changes literally every day xD
EXILEO same
EXILEO I agree. It always pisses me off when those experts think If it’s not exactly the same it’s fake. Mine is different every time I sign something lol
Then why is he still working?
Signatures do change over time. Sometimes a lot. Sometimes a little. My signature has changed very little over the years (but that's neither here nor there). That's why the expert is (likely) comparing the alleged signatures to known, verified signatures written around the same time. For example, if someone brought in a Ringo Starr signature and claimed it was signed in 1965, the expert would find an example of a verified Ringo Starr signature from around 1965 to compare it to.
Garrett law nah he’s a fraud, I’m sure he probably got some knowledge from faking it all those years at a pretty legit company, but still he got sued and got caught slipping haha.
The ball point pen was invented in 1888...
yes, Corey is a spoiled idiot and ruined the show...
The first electric computer came out around the 40's, yet it wasn't until the 80's, 90's when one would consider them "around". I'd even say the personal computer didn't became mainstream until early 2000, and only became an everyday standard object when they were re-conceptualized as smartphones, which is just 10 years ago.
Matt it wasn't mass produced i think is what people mean when they say that. I've heard it with other things before
Matt haha 😆
Matt but was not widely used until the 60s, at least that's what I have heard
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He does a terrible job protecting that ball. Keep it in a hard plastic baseball display case and don't touch it with bare hands.
come on, let everyone touch it & hold it with greasy sweaty hands, when they are done? thrown it in a plastic zip lock, clueless owner...
1202 Program Alarm.....saw a NY State license that read " SCE2AUX"
Well it looks WAY better than my Kevin Youkilis ball!!! But that was a game ball! From regular season play in '07. But to me that Fenway infield dirt just makes it look BETTER! (Also I DO keep it in a case!!!)
The certificate of authenticity said Brooklyn Dodgers. The Dodgers were playing in Los Angeles in 1959.
well he said it’s a 57 ball idk about baseball so maybe that’s if
On top of that it’s not just Ken Lehman it’s also Elmer Valo, Ed Roebuck and Carl Erskine even doe Carl was with the Dodgers in 1959 he only played 2 months on that season before retiring
So this ball is understandable in the $400 range forsure despite having players like Sandy Koufax and Duke Snider.
Non of the guys I listed were ever part of the 1959 World Series Champions this guy tbh didn’t do his research on some of these guys
If you watched the whole video they said 1957 not 1959
Wasn't that the year they left Brooklyn?
@@davidanthonyfranco4697 That was ‘58
Start by looking at the actual baseball itself. It's a William White Official Nation League Ball, which existed between 1989-1994. So yeah, obviously it wasn't signed in the 50s.
Justin Kanoya it sounds like you know your baseball collectibles.
Justin Kanoya it could have been signed at a 30 year reunion in 1989.
@@miketheyunggod2534 yep, and that is why it was worth $200
MiketheYung God valo wasnt on the 1959 team
as a collector, Sandy Koufax's auto on a ball is worth the 450 on its own. having all the others on there, especially Drysdale, puts it up over a grand easily.
It's probably still available, contact the guy and buy it!
Like I said I do not trust the pawn stars!
I think it has to do with the fact it’s NOT a World Series ball and the signatures on the ball
The fact it’s just a team ball and not a championship team ball I can see how the value went down
Big red flag: The Dodgers were in Los Angeles in 1959...not Brooklyn.
+Lava1964 the "expert" said 1957
+Lava1964 Which is why the expert said it was from 1957.
+Lava1964 yep they left brooklyn in 57
I thought I was the only one who noticed that💩😱
Uhh no they moved to dodger stadium in 1962 not 1959 therefore they were still in brooklyn
Awesome video 😊
The Sandy Koufax signature alone is enough.
that ball looks very modern
Sandy Koufax was a really good pitcher? Are you serious? The man may be the best pitcher to ever throw a baseball. And not even mentioning Drysdale is an insult
Nolan Ryan never threw a perfect game
If you're a pitcher, you'd rather have a perfect game than a no-hitter..
Ryan has 7 no-hitters, Koufax has 4, including a perfect game. It's like saying getting 7 silver medals at the Olympics is better than 3 silvers and a gold
Wahoo a perfect game? Yeah a no-hitter is hard to do but a perfect game is obviously harder. When you look at it plainly, Sandy Koufax achieved perfection in his career; Nolan Ryan did not. And 108.1 means nothing if you can't locate. You want to talk about records? How about most career walks? Only pitcher to have over 2,000? And he holds that record with distinction.
1) We aren't talking about a statistic that's measured against a hitter; we're talking about pitch speeds. Pretty much the only criteria that's needed is that it's recorded in some form. Maybe someone in history has thrown a baseball at a faster speed, but we can only debate what has been documented in the history books. And Dalkowski has thrown the fastest recorded pitch.
2) I'm talking about perfect games. Koufax threw a perfect game, therefore Koufax has achieved perfection in his career. Ryan never threw a perfect game, therefore he has not achieved perfection in his career.
3) As we both can see, 'better' is a subjective term. There are lots of points I can give that support my opinion that Koufax was better. Ryan never won a Cy Young; Koufax won three. Ryan never won an MVP; Koufax has. Ryan has one ring, Koufax has four. And of course, Koufax is one of the select few pitchers in history to have ever thrown a perfect game; Ryan isn't.
Sorry buddy, the best I could do is $0.25
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$0.25? That's a huge risk, my man.
Id buy it for $5. Best I can do.
0:40 right off the bat. Get it?
The seller looks like Kurt Russell from Breakdown..."anybody seen my wife"
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Koufax did not pitch in the 1961 World Series it was the 1965 World Series against the Minnesota Twins. Steven M. Fanale
Ken Lehman pitched a total of 72 innings for the Brooklyn Dodgers between 1952 and 1957. His contract was purchased by the Baltimore Orioles in the middle of the 1957 season.
Agreed 😊
Uhhh, Corey's handshake needs to go. I can't keep a straight face anymore.
Matt Moser and i thought i was the only one! Lol. Its like he forgot he has lost some weight and still feels the need to swing his arm around is fatass self
Matt Moser Its a sign of dominance
@@TaterChip221 he just twists his forearm
@@haroldfrets5468 he doesn't just twist his forearm, he comes to the shake like he is about to clothes line someone in a wrestling match
you can see the guy trying not t touch the signatures at least
early dodgers stuff is great. They were one of the biggest teams in the 50's
You can tell the guy knew it wasn't actually a World Series ball and was trying to scam the shop by how nervous he got and how fast he dropped that $3000 to $750 as a final ploy to seal the scam.
Bro the fact it was claimed to be a Brooklyn Dodgers signed ball from 1959 was a big red flag
Since the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles after the 1957 season!
“Before my time” goes on to tell facts about the players
3:00 when you hit your toe against the door
That 'ouch' came straight from his heart
Sandy Koufax on a ball goes for $1500. Drysdale can go up to $500 depending on the condition, not to mention the other signatures. But yet they offer $250 ahah
youknowwhyimhere b "I gotta make a profit"
Lies. On Ebay, there are many Koufax signed baseballs for less than $50.
I don’t understand how experts know how much the ball is worth it makes no sense tbh
Alex Villarreal the guy does the research before he gets there so he knows
Master Chief Here here
"This is before my time" immediately spews all these random facts haha
It was the 1965 world series that Koufax refused to pitch because of yom kippur, not the 1961 World Series, besides the 1961 world series was between the Yankees and Reds
Never argue with Corey, he knows everything
Lol "right off the bat"
I've never understood why people in the shop touch valuables (books, documents, leather, etc) with their grubby bare hands...
I'm probably definitely going to watch another Pawn Stars clip. Oh, I Always Do That Sometimes.
first off yea, he doesn't take care of the ball at all. keeping it in a baggie and holding it in his dirty hands almost made me sick....Pawn Stars rips people off though, good luck finding a baseball just signed by Sandy Koufax for $450... more like over a grand not to mention the other greats on that ball....I know its a business but don't get greedy and you know they tell there "experts" to give them LOW estimates.
Aaron Fraser *yeah
1k? Hell no more like 200 max...
there are so many possibilities to sell your stuff nowadays, I don't understand why he'd sell a collector item to a pawn shop.
There are many Koufax signed baseballs on Ebay for less than $50.
@@user-hs2hd7wp9g To avoid fees , it costs to advertise on ebay etc ?
250 bucks that's a lot of publix subs
It’s the 59 Dodgers. It wasn’t signed in 1959.
The guy checking out the signatures just had a pic of that ball on his iPad, zoomed in on the signature and said it was authentic because it matches the ball! Obviously it will!!!
Having a signed ball from the 1957 Brooklyn Dodgers is even more valuable than the 1959 Los Angles Dodgers that won the World Series. Last team ever in Brooklyn.
Yeah I think the value is a good bit more than the "expert" said at 450.
@@MMGJ10 You are right. I think a Sandy Koufax on the sweet spot is going for at least $500 and this ball has it.
He made two mistakes at least: 1) in 1959, everybody loved Sandy Koufax. he wasn't disliked by many. 2) In 1959, we had ball point pens in general use.
Is this the same guy that had the Babe Ruth check? Didn’t he learn the first time
@3:10 when your girl ask if you been cheating lol
Lol deciding wether if a signature is fake or not, what if the person signing it got bumped lol
Felony how tf would they get bumped lmfao
Boracay98ftw like when they were writing their signature they were in circumstances in which you could not write perfectly
Banana McBean and why would anyone be signing something like that in situations where that is possible
Steve grad- There's no question these signatures are authentic!
Me- Now the real question is, are you authentic?
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Those signatures looked nothing like the ones he pulled up....
He should’ve known the ball was newer because It’s not a Spaulding brand and the commissioner who’s autograph is stamped on is wasn’t the commissioner in 59
yah in 1959 they were still doing autographs with a Quill im pretty sure >_>
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Guys notice how corey give eye content the expert when it come to value😂
Let me teach you how historically important this thing is and then lowball your offer.
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corey talking baseball history before he was born
Based on career Wins Above Replacement, Walter Johnson is the greatest pitcher of all time.
Hey it's the Star wars, sports and history memorabilia expert coming in again. Mr expert at everything it seems
the ball and the authenticity is fake
Corey and his lowballing friends
Lmao the “professional” was outed he had no training what’s so ever he even got arrested
The ball looks brand new. We'll, hopefully he'll get it verified. Why is everyone handling it without gloves!
Pawn Stars commenters say autographs are worth a fortune....but they're not.
"Mr Brown and I got along famously with Sandy Koufax."
I have a Jim Bunning signed ball that's worth more then what they offered him. That ball is pretty valuable. He would have to be stupid to accept $250 for it
Jay Clark whyd you pick Jim Bunning haha I have a signed auto from him..
There are many Jim Bunning signed baseballs on Ebay for $20 to $35.
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You're telling me 3,000. Im telling you 250... lmaooo
A lot of people think they know how pawn shop works but in reality they don't most of the pawn shop will ripped you off because they want to have as much as profit as possible if you get ripped off by a pawnshop its you're own fault for not knowing the retail price of the stuff you are selling to them
0:41 he missed a really good opportunity there
Let me call a buddy of mine that played for the 1959 dodgers
Donald Scott Drysdale is my great uncle!
Prove it
Post a video on your TH-cam channel showing a photo or something that says he was your great uncle
These people go and buy stuff off the internet w/o having it checked first and then when the value is less than what they were told they look foolish. It doesn't matter what an item is worth, IT'S WHAT SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.
i would pay $450 for that ball every day of the week!
@jesusisnotallright s Bud, you sound like a foolish child. As many people have already pointed out, a ball signed by Sandy Koufax goes for $450 by itself easily, not to mention all of the other signatures on the ball. The guy is not a fool.
I have a duke Snyder signed ball .also have s chair from ebbets field
This must have been before the show’s fact checkers time as well. Sandy Koufax was a GREAT pitcher. He was also largely respected for observing his religious obligations and has a stellar reputation as gentlemen. A few years after his retirement, when he was doing color for NBC’s Game of The Week, I got his autograph outside the old Yankee Stadium. He must have signed a hundred...he was as friendly, warm and gracious as any athlete or celebrity I’ve ever encountered. Controversial???
This expert is the expert of Low Balls nothing else. If you ever need to undervalue something call him
Stroke at 3:10
that boy lost weight.. got damnnn
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Ball looks too new for being almost 60 years old.
Joe Schmoe probably kept it very well preserved
Joe Schmoe it wasn't. It was signed at a much later date during a get together.
I have a yogi berra New York Yankees legend signed ball
I have a Koufax auto authentic signed hall of fame card and that looks like mine
Dodgers didn't play in the World Series in 1961. Cincinnati played the Yankees that year.
They didn’t even mention the Duke Snider auto!
for being born when you were born and not knowing much about that time you sure know a lot about that baseball
Justin Evans common knowledge about Sandy Koufax but you don't have to be born in that era
Can barely hear this episode.
Didn't Sandy Koufax pitch a perfect game?
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Yes
The guy would low ball, then wait outside the door, and buy it from the customer.
His Face Was So Funny
expert: I'd put it at $450.00
seller: *OOF*
That appraiser flat out lied to him, that ball is worth at least 1500 for multiple reasons, he really low balled that guy, I mean the ball was in no way worth 3500, but definitely would fetch 1500 in the shop, maybe even more at auction. That was a very nice collectors ball.
I can only give you umm 5 cents and lets see oh this piece of lint in my pocket
When I paused the vid I thought the seller was Danny devido lol
I'm watching this in 2017 and Astros just won world champs
Look like he did not come back after that Home Run
That ball looks to pristine lol 😆
Certificate of Authenticity, or it never happened!
The loud ads and the loud outro make me want to sell my house to Rick for $6000 after the expert says it's worth $300,000.
There may be 15 signatures on the ball but did him and mr. Brown get along famously? 🤔
If I owned this, the minimum I'd do (especially with the easy access of the internet) is check the names in the ball.
So people’s signatures can never vary? If I became famous and I signed an autograph a little differently one time people would think it was fake years later??
No question the signatures are authentic. But each signature is worth about a dollar each give or take
When you Get sting by a small Ant @3:01
Tell me the owner of the ball doesn't look like Jimmy Neutrons dad....
that guy with the signature thing is fraud
Crispin Jade Tubongbanua yeah i agree hes as bad as rick
Crispin Jade Tubongbanua yup, already been reported as a fraud
you left out "greasy lowlife scumbag"
If you people are so much better than "fraud" Steve and "scumbag" Rick....then YOU contact the shop/show and buy the ball for $3500.
@@jasonmichael3676 Why are you using quotation marks when no one's quoted those things?
This scammer is also a legit bigtime lowballer
1965 WS you dolt. Not 61.He said he sat out in 61 it was 65.