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- Ever wondered how expensive the guitar rigs in rig rundowns of the pros are?
Today we take a look at some rough retail calculations to find out.
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0:00 Intro
0:26 The Rules
1:26 Steve Vai
4:03 Nita Strauss
5:06 John 5
6:56 Phil Collen (Def Leppard)
8:17 Vivian Campbell (Def Leppard)
9:39 Guthrie Govan
10:34 Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
11:52 Kiko Loureiro (Megadeth)
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All things considered, I'm actually surprised how low the cost of even the most expensive rigs are, considering that the concerts themselves cost millions to put on. I wouldn't be surprised if just one light fixture for the bigger shows cost upwards of $10k, not to mention the control board and generators needed to power them. You'd think most of the cost would be in the guitar sound, but it's not.
Yep most of the money is wrapped up in the lights and the sound.
Most of the rig cost are in the instruments.
@@8Junio76 lol ok
“[…] considering that the concerts themselves cost millions to put on.”
I have some limited first-hand knowledge of how much some mid-scale production stuff costs, and I’m pretty sure that it’s more like 100s of millions for the really big tours with lots of fancy lights and video.
Your $10k estimate is a bit low, I think, at least for retail pricing on the high-end stuff… there are some $12k-15k single lighting fixtures for sale on Full Compass.
@@8Junio76 No WAY! You can buy one of Dave’s custom guitars, and it ain’t cheap, put it’s still less than 1/7 the price of his personal rig.
While Richard Shaw was still in Cradle Of Filth, his live rig consisted of only two Mooer micro pedals: "005 Brown Sound 3" and "Radar", and Shure GLXD wireless unit, totaling around 700 dollars. He joked that he could carry his rig around in his pockets.
That’s amazing. I have some Mooer preamps, amazing stuff. This dude from Russia used to sell amazing Maiden presets and I bought some but unfortunately you can’t probably buy them now for obvious reasons
Came to the comments to say this 😄 they later upgraded to Quad Cortex' but I love that they proved you don't need to get too fancy for a live sound, especially when you have to carry them all over the world.
“Tone is in the fingers”
-plays through $50,000 rig.
Well, yeah, but lend me that 50,000 rig and all you'll hear is caterwauling.
Guitar players swear up an down that tone is in the fingers and then own 10 different guitars. It's almost like on an ELECTRIC instruments the ELECTRONICS are the most important thing ... although that probably makes too much sense.
Reliability for the road
@@ChrisPBacon3000 Play style and skill, not tone.
Sometimes it's not about what you need, but what you want.
My live rig consisted of a Roland cube on top of a plastic garden chair!
Me too, for many years! Now I have a Boss Katana head and a Peavey 4x12 cab!
I use a roland cube for cleans (can't beat the jazz chorus clean) and crate powerblock head into a crate 4x12. I'm only using the power section of the amp for my friedman be-od pedal as the preamp.
@@jwasikowski1 That's a good rig!
I think one of my favorite expensive rigs was from my old guitar teacher. It was a First Gen Powerball, Orange 4x12, and an older TC Electronic Multi effects pedalboard which was surprisingly good
I think its japanese power source cost more than the amps
@@blckbldng LOL!
Saw a band in a tiny bar where the fire code was well under 100 people. The lead guitarist was playing through a Diezel VH4 half stack, so around $6100 new. And he had a pedal board, with a couple of Strymons, wah, EVH MXR phaser, tube screamer, controller, etc. Probably another $1500 including the board, ps, etc. The singer/rhythm guitarist's rig was a Boss Katana.
Honestly, I think if you're good enough a Katana is going to be enough for small gigs. Especially the 100w models, they can get loud enough for bar gigs and when setup correctly can do more than enough to please. I think unless you're a professional or the ultimate enthusiast, I'd say it's quite a waste of money to spend of that kind of expensive amps.
Megadeth's Rust in Peace tour is still the loudest concert i have been to after all these years.They had their sound down pat and dialed with suspended Marshall stacks on scaffolds.
I like Guthrie's setup, sweet and simple. 😁
The fm9 is a beast. I've been selling a lot of gear to get one. Had a lot of trouble getting good tones with my (now) retired setup.
When you're that ridiculously talented, you can use a cigarette packet amp and still blow people away.
Everybody wants an FM9. Which is why nobody can get one.
Guthrie plays expensive guitars tho.
@@TheCyberMantis Most of the people on the list play expensive guitars. 😉
I'd love to see a part 2 to this KDH, some suggestions: Matt Pike of Sleep and High on Fire, Man has a wall of orange heads, with a few Laney and Green and Matamp heads thrown in. Amber Valentine of Jucifer, she has a wall of daisy-chained cabs so large its known to damage the structural integrity of buildings they play in. J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. also comes to mind Is known for his notoriously over-driven marshall stacks.
One of the best guitar channels on TH-cam. Love the variety and coverage of current events in the guitar world. Always dig your new videos
I would be interested in the Def Leppard for the endless sonic possibilities but at the same Nina Strauss shows it's all about the playing and that is good.On the other hand you understand that big productions imply top notch gear.
I wonder how much George Lynch's 80s rig would cost nowadays.
80 grand
1 million
Should of checked out Tommy Emmanuel’s rig.
A single Boss Tu-3.
Great video mate, cheers.
Tech is making really killer sounding guitar rigs much more accessible....I heard a live show right hear in Richmond Indiana two days ago just walking by and the singer/ guitar player sounded amazing he had a pedal board and a 4/12 Marshall Cab that's it and he could have played a far bigger show with no problem at all.... awesome! It's an amazing time to be a guitar player!!!!!
That is not guthries permanent rig, he’s only trying it out for this particular tour. Says in an interview he still prefers his victory amps and such, but wanted to experiment with the FM9 after working with Hans zimmer on some soundscapes for film
Thanks for the reminder, I forgot this.
Hans and Guthrie?! This film score sounds fantastic already.
@@Dylan-kd3lf yep he's part of Hans Zimmer's live band/orchestra for quite a while, since like, 4-5 years ago I think
@@Dylan-kd3lf A little late to the party but IIRC, they worked together on Dune and the 'bagpipes' sound is actually Govan on guitar.
Don't forget the wireless belt pack for the Shure Axient ADX1 coming in at $1668.00 each. That's a 4 unit rack of receivers. Most likely used for backup, but I imagine a Hand Held Mic as well. Those are 1K to 2K. Anyway, absolutely love your channel! I'm wishing you the best of success on TH-cam. Your needed here! Thanks
Probably if there are guitar changes, they have them ready to go on 3 guitars.
@@Scott__C That's a great point. That makes more sense.
also, I would love to see John Frusciante's gear up on the block. That's gotta be close to 6 figures before touching the guitars
No, we're only talking about stuff that actually works. 😁
I saw a rig walkthrough with Angus Young a short while back (1-2 years) and he has several vintage Marshall heads along with various wireless and switching items. I would love to hear the breakdown of a mixed rig like his.
Yeah, his rig is very likely upwards of $100,000.
Didn’t he have 4 universal power conditioner that were made in Japan, each was like $5000. But you could plug in any electrical source in the world to them and they output what ever voltage you wanted.
@@mrcoatsworth429 nothing compared to Joe Bonamassa .
@@JoeDread316 yeah, but I don't know if you can really count Dumbles in this calculation. Unless you use the price they were when they were made. The Marshalls are rather normal amps.
This would be a cool series. Talking about different guitarists and different parts of their career. Zakk Wylde now versus 1992 with Ozzy?
Now I respect Zakk more after seeing this , nothing wrong with having a bunch of gear on tap but it must be a pain in the ass when something goes wrong.
I was a tech in the 80's. The average racks back then cost $50k or so with some (like EVH) spending over $100k. Touring has gotten a lot less expensive.
this has been one of your best vids, do more!
Guthrie Govan is also using a powered FRFR stage wedge style cabinet (behind him) to hear his guitar. That was on the current Aristocrats tour. I was lucky enough to get to hang out during sound check and meet the band.
I definitely would like to see more of this. Fun video, good work!
The contrast in price between professional musicians gear is pretty astounding.
The 1960dm cabinets were priced at 1300.00 USD when they were released in 2012. I loved those cabinets. The Dave Mustaine cabs are wonderful, mid heavy beasts, perfect for life work.
Great video, as always! Could be fun to look at some other rig rundowns. Thanks!
Most of what they're paying for are wireless systems, power amps, and speakers. They're all using about 1500-2500 in modeling amps, which is relatively affordable, and only expensive because they often have 2 of them. It's amazing that the average teenager could work a part time job, save up for a good modeling amp and a great guitar in the 800-1200 range, and never complain about "their sound" again. Or at least, not have any excuses other than their playing.
It was not always this way.
Even a £400 guitar can be good enough these days man
Yeah, I took my $5000 rig (mostly in the Axe-FX and wireless units) that I use for playing dance halls and party cruises and had no issues using that for a set we played in a 7000 seat arena. I'd need a better wireless unit to play full-production arena shows, but yeah, I have a pro-tier rig that's definitely affordable to most gigging guitarists.
This rig analysis was freaking positively informative 👏🏻 👌🏻
Thanks.
Cool video. I definetly appreciate all the work you put into this. Nice job man
Saw J5 live a couple years ago and was super fascinated by his rig. All boss, nothin overly fancy for sure. COOL fuckin player
I saw him 4 or 5 years ago. Front row. Best show I ever went to, the Creatures were phenomenal. Jared James Nichols opened. He had a really cool simple setup
A Blackstar 20 watt mini stack?
That's what it looked like to me.
I cant recall if he was playing a Gibson or an Epiphone, but it was his signature model with a single p90. He was great.
Honestly there's no need for rigs more expensive than Guthrie's.
Much less stuff to worry about and much less painful to replace if gets broken or stolen, and the audience will not tell the difference
Depends on the scale of shows you're playing. It's worth noting how almost all of them use some variant of the AxeFX/Cortex etc for their actual sound; only John 5 is still using a traditional amp. But the part that makes it more expensive for the Megadeth type rigs is the extra gear needed to handle big arena volumes. Notice how much money goes into the power conditioner and wireless units- At those volume levels, the source has to be as clean as possible.
Hell even my rig is more expensive because of old school pre Gibson Mesa inflation
But muh toan
@@lordvermintide4441 Even a cheaper wireless rig (guitar and in-ears) and an Axe-FX (what I use) is still pushing $4k. But it's NICE not having to worry about venue size when you're bringing an amp (no need to worry if your amp is too small or if you need the Baffle O' Shame). And wireless us a godsend when you want to have fun!
Love your videos and your brutal honesty no bs or crap You rock bro please keep making awesome content.
Excellent video concept brother.
I'd be interested to see a version of price of guitars brought on tour! But this was a great watch too!
Yeah, I mean some are not able to be accurately priced, but most would be.
Pretty impossible to calculate with vintage instruments. Like he pointed out, how do you calculate what Brian May's guitar is worth? Or a vintage Les Paul that was given to one player by another famous player? You could figure the average cost of any new guitar in the $3-7 thousand dollar price range on average. But even then, most of these guys have tech's that do extensive modifications to the instruments. Some change out all the hardware on the guitars. So specific bridge replacements, nut replacements, saddle replacements...etc..... So pricing that stuff accurately would be almost impossible.
EVH’s last touring rig as a bonus would’ve been nice, but maybe you could do a whole video on every EVH touring rig. Great video!
I thoroughly enjoyed this. I remember reading Guitar World that had rig setup in most issues. always found it interesting
Lol, i have an old SKB Pedal board with a 15 watt Eminence equipped solid state amplifier built in. It also checks the health of the Patch cables and can power up to 8 or 10 pedals. I' think i'll dig it out. It's like new in the box.
Great idea for a series!
Good shit man, great idea for a series… more pls :)
absolutely love this, please do more of these!
this was interesting indeed, love to see more from this kind of videos my friend!! :DDD
You’ve genuinely become my favorite TH-camr :))
Just saw Dave and Kiko in Raleigh NC. They used every penny of that equipment. Kick ass show. Thanks for the video 🤙🤙
I would be happy to see more of this. It's like lifestyles of the rich and famous but for guitar. 10/10
Steven Wilson's rig prior to the Porcupine Tree reunion would be interesting since it's a fairly complex and high-end pedalboard into a Bad Cat halfstack, and then a little practice amp just because.
The Edge. Never been a fan of u2 but I watched a rig rundown with it and it’s mad fascinating.
Awesome video concept
Great video! I'm sure the Malmsteen back line alone would crush the list lol!!
Keep doing this! Very interesting.
Hell yeah great video man
Great video idea. Keep 'em coming
Hey dude, GREAT CHANNEL…no pretentious horse shit, no paid for “reviews “…just guitar talk and FUN…which is the entire effin point, some seem to miss that
Not that its expensive or anything, but i have a full 21u rack of pure 80s hairspray metal
This was a really good video! I’m running an Axe Fx III Turbo now…. it’s unbelievably amazing!! Took a long while to save up for it, but it’s very, very worth it!
Same here. And I love getting compliments on how good my tone is from fellow musicians
Cool video 👍👍 Those road rack cases are expensive as well!!
Great series.
Excellent video. Cheers from Argentina
Great video, I'd love to see a breakdown on Matt Pike from High on Fire
I was SO ready to be converting this entire video to Euro lol (it's actually pretty close to 1:1 right now anyway)...thanks buddy!
Great video. it may be interesting to see some of the guys using vintage gear- Eric Johnson, Robben Ford, etc.
Cool concept. It’s all in good fun.
Cool idea to look at the big rigs. 👍 I am building high end guitar rigs in Germany. I want to add some things, that are not always obvious to see. A rig is not just the "big" parts like the rack units, tube heads or a pedal board. A lot of money goes into installing all the components in a professional way e.g. connectors, cables, switching, buffers, signal routing, electric isolation, noise gating and so on. A lot of the cables have to be custom made to the needed length, soldered to connectors and fixed with cable ties. All this has to withstand the torture of touring and still be maintainable, just in case. Some rigs have more than one foot controller for wide stages or / and for the guitar technician who in some cases does the switching during the whole performance. Then - depending on the rig - there's a lot to pay for pro touring flightcases e.g. I have four Engl 4 x 12 guitar cabinets - the custom build cases for them add over 1200 $ easily - and a crazy weight. Usually you have multiple guitar transmitters. The list of things which are not that obvious to be added to get pro level goes on and on. And then for the very very big guitarist - some of them have rigs in different parts of the world as the fright costs are incredible expensive. So 20 k$ or 30 k$ for a rig without guitars and the guitar techs equipment is not that crazy. Of course, you can have e.g. an Axe-Fx (and a spare) straight to the PA and in ears and it would be not that expensive. A lot of guitarists use modeling or profiling because of ease of transportation and setup, but maybe more because of consistency of tone. I have to stop - I could write for days here. 🙈
great video. some of my favorite players, and actually , the last 3 concerts i saw were nita strauss, john 5, and megadeth.
Very interesting vid KDH. Nita and Guthrie are my two new favorite guitar players!
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More of this, please
I thought the price of the Shure Axient was a typo. $7,000. for a wireless system!?! Holy smoke!
read up on all the different frequency regulations across the globe. If Shure has found a fix for that in one system, it may very well be worth the price
a. maximum frequency precision to minimize interferences
b. maximum frequency range to meet all global regulations
c. maximum reliability and durability because you're touring the planet for months at a time
Easiest example: a cheap wireless SM58 (all you need as a local musician) is under $200, but the Axient is almost $1k. $800 is a drop in the bucket on a pro-level touring rig, especially when you want the best and most reliable pieces of equipment you can.
Great video I loved it and all your other videos too.
You should look into some of the jam guys Rigs. For example Trey Anastasio’s - the guitar player from phish - dry amp alone is $150,000+ Trainwreck.
I think in the touring world overall - just from my point of view - it’s either Trey, John Mayer, or Joe Bonomasa who have the most expensive rigs. They use a lot of vintage gear though so it definitely tips the scales.
Love the vids mate! Would be curious about Angus Young’s off Rig Rundown but then I guess like you said you can’t really put a price on the vintage stuff…
That black V w/ the yellow is 🔥
I respect when an artist who can essentially afford any combination of gear on the planet decides to use a very basic setup of commercially available, relatively inexpensive equipment.
There’s nothing wrong with being a gear hoarder, spending decades chasing very particular sounds and spending insane amounts of money to do so but it’s cool when someone gets all of the sounds they want from a single multi-fx unit and an off the shelf amp.
Lots of people just buy and buy and buy and never really end up satisfied.
GC has the Mustaine cabinet on its website, out of stock but $1199.00 apiece through them.
Great video. I'd love to see what value was involved in assembling Little Manhattan, as well as the cost of the Buzzard basses.
great vid! plus take into consideration the cost of The Guitars as well :)
Also need to include total weight and approximate space needed to transport lol
Great video mate. Would love to see a rig run down on Jeff Loomis from Arch Enemy. Do one on Dimbag too.
Would be interesting to know the price of Yngwie Malmsteen's rig, as well as Slash's.
Yngwie's rig is two Plexi's, and a wall of fake empty cabs. 😆
@@TheCyberMantis pretty much ha
Half the players are already using digital, this was unthinkable a few years ago.
It won't take long to see a full switch, at least live.
It makes sense cause touring you want durability. Emulator tech is really good so it is hard to justify the headaches that come with tube amps.
@@joshhill5932 Another huge advantage (in my opinion) is live switching. Being able to hit a footswitch and go from a a clean, modulated, full clean sound to a bright rhythm distortion is invaluable.
Tubes are for the studio. Digital SS stuff for everything else.
@@martyshwaartz971 Also, you can just plug your modeler straight into the PA, so you can have the sound of a cranked full stack JCM800 in a low key bar gig without killing half the crowd. And being able to go from crystal clear cleans on a JC120 to a raunchy old Bassman to massive chuggachuggas of a Diezel at the push of a footswitch is AWESOME (and you don't need to lug three goddamn amps).
Still want a real tube amp for a studio, but 95% tone quality in a live show is beyond good enough.
Metallica went digital back in 2016. Amazing how consistent they sound from night to night and not having to deal with tube amps acting up.
I've got a Mode 4 cab and I bought it 2nd hand for £450 (although that was 14 years ago) as a reference for anyone curious
I'm using a Boss Katana MK2 100w, 2 cheap Behringer Pedals and mainly a highly upgraded 100€ Strat (with upgrades more ofc). I have no need for more.
i actually have the same rig as one of the people you mentioned today, Nita Strauss, ive been using a gt1000 since they came out and its just fine, i was amazed listening to her talk about hers though, she uses some presets and away she goes, when i got mine, i researched relentlessly on how to get the best sound out of it then built my patches from the ground up, it took me about 3 weeks tweeking it before i started gigging with it
great video!
Kool video man
Great video! I'd love to see a breakdown of Larry LaLonde's (Primus) rig from a while back... Dude had 3 pedalboards and 2 super sonic 100s. Also, I remember a rig rundown of the (I believe) Imagine Dragons guitarist which would likely blow Megadeth's price total out of the water...
can you find out what a metal core band like beartooth is using price wise? love the effort and quality you put into these videos
Best video I could see online. 👍
I saw Kiko this year in Montreal and i must say not only was he a mindblowing musician, my friend and I noted how great his guitar sounded. (By the way between us we've seen almost A LOT of guitarists!)
I've seen Vai once and he sounded absolutely amazing. I severely overestimated his rig cost. Those custom shop guitars might drive that cost up a few dollars...
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Great video!!!!!!! Now I know what wireless unit on both sides of the spectrum to look into in the near future.:). Really curious on a guitarist that uses Kempers as that’s what I use and a custom Dr Jekyll guitar works 2x12 Legosa cabs..:)
i use: marshall 1960a & b cabs, two marshall origin heads, pedaltrain flight case, ernieball volume, korg tuner, wolf computer, aB synthe, empress superdelay vintage, eventide space, zvex tremorama, zvex ringtone, zvex lofi, walrus slotva, electroharmonix cathedral and holiest grail into little dipper+vox delaylab (looper)
seems like alot but its just distortion and reverb effects / a few tricks to cut&slice the stacks as they build into the loops
I'm fairly certain the Mustaine cabs are just 1960Vintage, with a metal grille added.
The stock 1960AV is a couple hundred $ more than your standard 1960A.
Such a cool video, thx
i think Petrucci's rig, with 2 mesa mark V signatures, 2 axe fxIII, a bunch of pedals and isocabs, plus micellaneus, would put all these in the ZOOM 505 category XD.. but that shure axient is putting a heavy weight on those rigs, it is ridiculously expensive, but i've heard marvels of it
GREAT VIDEO 🤘🏽❤️🤘🏽
Please do a part 2! Including Tosin Abasi's rig.
Phil from Def Leppard is prime example of modeling technology being just as good as tubes in a live situation. The coast ( nothing to Phil) is worth every penny. Seen them live with Motley Crue( I'm a die hard Motley fan) and can say that every single night, there sound is perfect, and way better and way louder then the Crue. I'm not even a big Def Leppard fan. But they earned my respect. In a stadium, I'm betting you can't find a clearer, more consistent sound. It elevates them to higher standards live
Dude I was hoping for Matt pikes rig cost. As many orange rockerverbs and dual darks as he can find and a literal wall of 4×12s. Also I wonder how much the grateful deads rig used to cost. Great video
I liked and subscribed solely for the Warwick hanging, similarly to me swiping right on dating apps for T&A 😬
Cool video! Fun!
Kiss : " Play-back for sure, dude ! Priceless..."
Very interesting Video. I wouldn't have guessed Megadeth as being the most expensive. Especially with def Leppard being in there.
It's cool to see some people just using a Guitar Processor.
When I was touring my rack rig w/ axe FX was around 13k to 15k. I stopped using pedals to simplify my setup and had everything programmed into the axe FX and used the axe FX floor controller and custom Ernie Ball expression pedals.