Jason Wesche is my dad, I’m the oldest of his 3 daughters. I just want to say that my dad did the best he could under the circumstances, and we all live in hell everyday knowing what Hannah went through.. it’s been 4 years and I still cry everyday. I miss her so much. It’s relieving seeing the supporting comments. A lot of people think my dad hurt Hannah, but my 21 years of being alive my dad has never laid a hand on me or my siblings. He didn’t even like raising his voice at us. I love and miss you Hannah Jade❤️ and I couldn’t ask for a better dad!
I don't think anyone in this comment section thinks your dad hurt hannah. I hope you and your family find peace, and that lady can rot in prison as she deserves.
Lindsey wasn’t “like a mother” to Hannah. She was like a woman who got paid to babysit and was secretly beating the shit out of a defenseless little girl…to Hannah.
@@JLynnEchelon - I would have been kicked off that jury almost immediately after her lawyers opened their mouths. I could barely hold it together just listening to these clips of them. I would have lost my shit if I were there. Although I don’t think I qualify for jury duty anymore. 10 years ago I was selected & during voir dire I told the judge that I couldn’t be on the jury because I had really bad hemorrhoids, so sitting there all day would be an actual pain in my ass. I didn’t…but I was pretty sure no one would check. Anyway, haven’t even gotten a summons since then. 😂
@@william1118 - Her attorneys might have been even worse humans than she is. I honestly think they said that because they wanted to remind the jury that Hannah’s actual mother was an addict who used during her pregnancy, so her life was already put at risk before she was even born…in an attempt to cast a shadow over everyone else involved & make Lindsey seem like the only person in the world who didn’t HAVE to care for this baby…but, who chose to. And if that didn’t work, planting the seed that Hannah’s mother was an addict who didn’t want her couldn’t hurt their case. They spent the whole trial doing shit like that…because they couldn’t defend their guilty client by traditional means.
It makes COMPLETE sense that this would have happened within minutes of Jason leaving Hannah with Lindsey. We already know that Hannah arrived earlier than any other children, and that Lindsey’s own kids weren’t even awake when Hannah arrived. We know that Lindsey had to wake up early on days when she had Hannah. We know that she would end up feeding her breakfast early, and would then have to feed the other kids later, so Lindsey is pissed off with her husband, she’s awake much earlier than she’d have to be if Hannah wasn’t there, and her kids were still sleeping. By her own admission, Lindsey would be physically abusive with Hannah, regardless of how she defines those actions…so, it’s safe to assume that Hannah might cry when her dad left. Lindsey is tired, she’s only awake because Hannah’s there, her own kids are asleep & she doesn’t want them to wake up…and Hannah starts to lose her little kid shit because her dad just left. It makes ABSOLUTE sense that a person who is already prone to physically abusing this kid would use force in an attempt to shut her up. Sadly, she could have achieved the desired outcome alternatively, by just holding Hannah…giving her hugs & kisses, and reminding her that daddy would be back later, but they had a whole day of fun to look forward to together. It takes 2 minutes to cook some frozen French toast sticks in the microwave…and while I think they’re gross, my nieces love them…Lindsey knew what time Hannah would be there, she knew that she’d become upset when her dad left…how hard is it to have something there to distract her when she gets upset? How hard is it to snuggle a baby who’s crying? Nothing inside me believes that Jason watched his premature, heroin addicted, baby daughter thrive in the NICU, then fought for full custody, arranged his life around her, and worked his ass off for her, just to abuse her & end up killing her. But I do believe that the psycho who admitted to physically abusing Hannah, whose text messages prove that she was bitter about having her there in the first place, would.
Hell, just make the baby love being at the house, throughout the day, and there would be no crying to deal with anyway. She might even come in, take off her coat, and fall back asleep on the couch. How long had she been watching her? I am sure she told us. But I can’t remember. It wouldn’t take but a week or two, and the crying would stop, if she had only treated her kindly.
people like her think it’s not okay for kids to cry and feel those feelings. when i watch my niece and nephew, sometimes they cry because their mom is leaving. how could i ever blame them for feeling the things they feel? we’re supposed to be there for them, not fucking betray them!!
There’s questioning strongly to try and confuse the witness re evidence/testimony given and exposing discrepancies, and then there’s screeching at a bereaved father over unimportant details trying to get him to explode in anger and thus introducing reasonable doubt (!?) as a tactic. The latter is not a good look to a jury.
I love how the dad basically schools the defense attorney on semantics...he's paying attention to the phrasing of the questions and answers exactly what was asked, how it was asked. She's not tripping him up at all! He highlights the ridiculous nature of her accusations.
He is so polite all the way through the inquisition. How he managed to remain calm with this woman I don’t know. Kudos to the poor man. She doesn’t let the poor man answer the question she’s asking him.
Imagine working your ass off to provide for your child single-handedly, working hard ass manual labor all day every day, getting a couple hours with the absolute light of your life, to only have her taken from you. AND THEN TO BE ACCUSED OF HAVING A HAND IN HER DEATH. My heart totally goes out to Jason.
@@kathymyers7279 cheap!? You don't know how hard it is for single parents to budget for childcare. And I know of absolutely 0 childcare centers that'd care for a child for the whole twelve hours that this man has to be at work. Fuck off blaming this man for something that happened to his daughter when he was not there. This is not his fault.
@@kathymyers7279 He probably thought (as we all would) that she would be better off in a family situation with one caregiver rather than with multiple caregivers. Do day cares in the US take children for 12 hour days?
@@kathymyers7279 30 dollars per day out of your 100/day is a big chunk. I get what you're saying, but for some parents is just not possible to pay more. Sad situation
You can just feel dad's pain. This defense attorney grasped at straws, bullied her way through, couldn't break him. He's so soft and polite and worked his butt off for hannah. You can feel it. You can see it on his face. He loves his baby girl
If he was capable to lose his shit and beat his daughter he certainly would have lost his shit with that bullshit lawyer. He kept his cool you could tell he was screaming inside.
@ccaarriissaa exactly - I wanted to lose my shit and would have found it hard not to have hurt her if I'd been witnessing her bullying poor Jason 😢 he did his daughter proud and got her justice. I hope the lawyers for the defence are so embarrassed by their behaviour in this trial that they want to curl up and die. But I get the impression that they're so ignorant that they'll think they were amazing. One of those cases where someone is too stupid to be able to understand how stupid they actually are and therefore think they're a genius. I hope they never get hired again, it was an absolute sh*t show!
@@haileyranson8255I agree. They were awful. Bullying and so condescending. And then they didn’t even prep her well. She got up on the stand and made a fool out of herself and yeah I agree that she is stupid but the attorney shouldn’t have said that. Lindsay beat and bullied Hannah and her lawyer was so bullying and abusive towards Jason, an innocent father who lost his sweet baby girl. His whole family lost their poor little Hannah. It’s hard to lose a child to anything but it’s really incomprehensible to lose a child to murder, and then being blamed for it. Jason is such a good person and father. It’s so obvious that Lindsay is guilty regardless of her bitchy attorneys. Apparently Lindsay wasn’t happy with them either and was blaming them for not suppressing her confession, which seems like something that they wouldn’t be able to do anyway.
The fact that Lindsey’s attorney is allowed to speak to the father of a deceased child like that is absolutely ridiculous and I understand being stern; however, her attitude seemed beyond unprofessional and disrespectful and the judge should have said something because she wasn’t even asking questions that were relevant half of the time. Also the idea that anyone could tell the timeline of their morning by the exact second like she was trying to make Jason recall is insane to me.
I thought the same thing! Trying to set up a timeline like that in SECONDS, of all things. It doesn't prove anything. I wish she could've been interrupted with an objection because I just don't see the relevance (unless they're insinuating that he did something to his daughter before dropping her off). Granted, as Stephanie said, they were likely hoping he'd snap so they could play off his frustration and use it against him.
I think the judge might've been like the prosecution - realizing that the defense attorney is coming off absolutely insane, which means the jury won't like her. I already hated her, but when she was like "It was cold that day, and your car doesn't just warm up" and he said "No, ma'am" the absolutely incredulous way she said "It DOES?!" Like that's obviously not what he said, you horrible, horrible scumbag of a human. And she just kept cutting him off every time she asked something. It's like she watched too much Perry Mason as a kid and thinks she's hot shit.
It's disgusting to think that people actually think she's innocent... These people are quite literally delusional in a terrible way. And that attorney? A damn NIGHTMARE.
There's people out there who've done bad shit where the victims actually survived and people still believe the criminal is innocent. Like that MMA fighter who almost beat his ex-girlfriend to death, people are always pouring out support for HIM on his social media despite the very gruesome photos of her from the incident. It's just so hard to have faith in humanity when people are out there wholeheartedly believing the innocence of disgusting people like that.
@@StephanieHarlowe prosecutor last nail in Lindsey’s coffin was asking her what was the last truthful statement she told the detective’s. Great trial to watch! It was telling when TJ did not give an impact statement
In case Hannah's dad, Jason, should ever read these comments: Jason, you were a good Dad, Hannah knew you loved her, and I am very sorry for the loss of your beautiful girl and the grief you have had to endure.
@@maddy2860 She had hep c and likely got bruised so often he probably wouldn’t notice - plus she always seemed to justify her bruises to him. Don’t blame him for being the best he could be for his daughter. I feel like you may not have kids. All you do is try to be the best you can be. But you saying this is like blaming any other parent for their child getting abused. Most of the time you don’t know. The child gets too scared to say anything. It’s not his fault. It is that evil woman. He tried his best to be a good single father.
@@maddy2860 there no point in guilting him. he most likely is questioning what he “could’ve or should’ve done” it’s not ur place to talk shit about his actions. He lost his child. I can guarantee you he is hurting enough
@@cydneycustalow6446 I just don't think he's as innocent as you think. He gave her permission to discipline his daughter and the never questioned the bruises. Sus
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The defence attorney made me roll my eyes so hard. She was bullying a father who just lost his child, thinking she did something after straight up lying. Absolutely unbelievable. I hope Lindsay’s children are okay.
Personally, although uncomfortable to watch, it’s what seals the case against Lindsay bc he does such a great job, it leaves zero room to doubt who’s actually responsible. At the end of the day 12 people found Casey Anthony not guilty regardless of all of the evidence against her bc they somehow managed to think their was “reasonable” doubt. Had Jason come across unfavorably who knows what the jury would have done. But the truth is easy to remember, so he did a great job.
She is a monster. Omg how he remained so calm I’ll never know. I don’t think I would have been able to stop myself punching her right between the eyes.
'You claimed you left the house at 6:55, when in fact it was 6:54 and 45 seconds! How much more will you distort the truth!' Good lord that attorney had me rolling my eyes into my head. The father kept his composure FAR better than I would have
I loved when she made it seem absurd that he drove off without warming up the car when it was cold. I live in a very cold place and very few people take the time to "warm up" their car in the morning unless they have an automatic start which most people around here do not have that luxury. I would have laughed in her face for that!
@@positivepenny5477 i mean you should let it warm up a little, get the oil and the fuel flowing right, 30 seconds to a minutes is all it needs really, then drive softly for the first few minutes, but most people don’t do that, it’s definitely not weird to not do that lmao
I am a defense attorney and I tutor groups of law students who dream of becoming a defense attorney. For this I often use videos to show them "real life" trials and to have them observe attorneys in courtrooms. This here is a great example of how NOT to behave as a defense attorney. Unfortunately many people think all you need to do to become an attorney is to study the law. No. You also need to study people, study how to treat people, study how people might react to you. Antagonizing everybody in the courtroom might work in fiction movies but never in real life . Kudos to Stephanie for a superb presentation of the case!
The defense attorney grilling Jason about the literal seconds it takes to back out of a driveway has my blood boiling. I have NO idea how he stayed so calm.
I would have a hard time doing yesterday. I would have to be like I don't want to talk to you if youare talk to me like that or something along those lines.
If you ever feel bad about yourself or feel like you’re dumb, just remember this woman voluntarily told police that she uppercutted a three year old, and didn’t even ask for a lawyer immediately afterward. Unbelievable. Edit: I’m watching my friends kids while they’re on their honeymoon soon. I was, of course, confused when they didn’t mention the Mortal Kombat uppercut technique to instill excellent discipline when the kids do normal things like whine about taking naps or missing their parents. Obviously being sarcastic. But seriously, I’ve been wondering all day. How does an adult human person uppercut a three year old? Like, wouldn’t you need to crouch down? What the fuck has to be so wrong with you that you feel the need to strike a child, let alone UPPERCUT a child? I know we can’t expect rational explanations from an irrational person but uppercutting a three year old is just….vexing.
But it wasn't like a HARD uppercut, just a kind of soft uppercut. Y'know, like a baby uppercut. That's something everybody does, right? Little baby uppercuts? All gentle, y'know?
As soon as she said she uppercut that baby with a closed fist, I was like "no, no, no". That would not fly with me. The amount that Hannah "fell" is insane. And after all the this woman admitted to, I bet half those bruises aren't from falling at all. I hope she never sees the light of day.
I’ve loved this series. Stephanie basically came out and said “Lindsay is in jail, but there are people who still think she’s innocent so let me tell you why she is 100% guilty” lmao
She admitted to treating this poor tot in most horrendous way! How on earth anyone can admit to slapping using a closed fist on a little,little girl??? Just so inexcusable,is this person even human???
Girl she’s allowed to express her own opinions on her own channel. You can still come to your own conclusions. But she supports her opinions with hard fact.
She smiles so often while talking about a dead child that was gravely injured [and later died] in her care. Infuriating to watch her act. And the obvious lies that even a first year criminology student could spot, like her being “completely innocent,” or “implicitly innocent.” Truly innocent ppl don’t need to say it that way. They just say “ I didn’t do it! I’m innocent!” Then there are the multiple times she nods yes while verbally answering no. I could go on and on. Nothing about this case made me hmm for a second about her guilt.
The patience this man had with that defense attorney is unparalleled. Her line of questioning was exhausting, borderline ridiculous, and offensive to both his intelligence and that of the jury. At least from my perspective, what she did backfired massively because I definitely only felt more compassionate for him, not speculative about his answers.
Agreed! I just made the following comment under someone else's post about the defense attorney's behavior, but I'll add it here, as well: One thing I also kept thinking about during the defense attorney's questioning of Jason was how it may have impacted the jury. Not impacting them in a way that would cause them to have a negative opinion of Lindsay, because I know the jury can't hold an attorney's behavior against a defendant, but the impact I personally felt was that it was almost hard to focus on the actual questions and answers because I was so shocked & a bit sidetracked by the spectacle the attorney was making of herself. When the behavior of an attorney overshadows the actual testimony a jury is trying to listen to, that's a huge problem!
I'm not a lawyer, but there's something so bizarre about the line of questioning "You claim that Lindsey contributed to your daughter's death BUT YOU DIDN'T BUY MILK ON THE DATE YOU SAID YOU DID."
Yes,,,and did you take 30 seconds or 40 seconds to PLOW out of your driveway? Mind you, the bitch uppercut your daughter,but which car door was closest to your front door?
It's not bizarre. He lied about going to buy milk the evening before the event. He also lied about Hannah eating cereal on that morning since there were no cereal in the house. On top of that, there was another man at his place on the evening before Hannah collapsed and he didn't tell the detectives about it except a couple of days or hours before his testimony at the trial. There was a suitcase at his house but the detectives never asked whose suitcase it was. So yeah, the whole milk thing is relevant because it has to do with the father lying about his whereabouts and actions. There are doctor's reports that were sent to the lead detective that said that the event that caused Hannah's injuries could have happened within a 24 hour time frame so all this does matter. The problem is that the defense didn't follow up those milk questions with relevant questions that could have given the jury more answers regarding what really happened on that night and evening so it all looks ridiculous when you don't take the whole picture into account. You should really go watch the whole trial and you'll see all this.
@@huntasoup His memory was probably a mess because the babysitter he trusted had just killed his daughter. Those things weren’t important enough to remember or lie about.
@@57andstillkicking it could be but he forgot a whole lot about that evening, and remembered just in time for the trial... JMO. And yes, it's important. LE should have looked into this. They did not. What if the wrong person was sitting in prison for this? Would you be okay with that? Knowing that someone who possibly hurt a child could do it to someone else? I sure am not. And btw, I'm not saying that the father did it. It could've been an accident, or the guest that stayed at his house the day before. I wonder how one can forget that they had a guest over. Trauma or not, this is something that's not that easy to forget.
Jason really is the immovable object on the stand, I have no words to explain how level and calm he was. He truly seems like a good father and good man.
My dad was the same way growing up he was calm laid back person strong loving caring and never yelled at us. hard working generous kind forgiving and it was all unconditional and honest and blunt. My dad was never one to show emotions especially when someone died. I saw my dad cry when my cousins died in drunkin car wreck because he helped raise his niece and nephews and they were like my big brother and sister. That is the man my dad was and when his relatives would die of old age. he cried only at funerals. or my moms divorce. It pains me to see such strong men weak in that moment and I learned the same. but it is in my dads voice one time to me and my sister when I was bullied my dad said he loved me and my sister and hated that we were verbally abused in school and emotionally abused never pyschially abused other students. My dad said he loved us and he said he and my mother made beautiful kids.
It is crazy that Lindsay and her attorney had such similar condescending demeanours and seemed to think behaving like that would appeal to the jury?!? Screeching at a man who’s child had just been murdered isn’t the smartest move to get people onside. Lindsay truely has to be one of the dumbest people on earth, if she thought answering questions the way she did would get peoples sympathy and understanding. From the manner in which her attorney conducted herself I’m assuming she didn’t know to brief her client before hand and say “don’t act like a know-it-all, and don’t be condescending in your responses” because they had that double act down. I came away thinking they both are horrendous!
The defense lawyer is Melynda Cook Howard and she has a 1 star rating on numerous websites and has had dozens of complaints to the BAR over paying witnesses and experts to testify and lie to make her client look favorable and I don't doubt it. The reviews on her are horrible, i feel so bad for the ppl who get her court appointed. How shes still licensed is beyond me. Ive never seen a lawyer with more negative reviews who is still practicing.
@@xkozmos4290 I went to check that but apparently she was a judge for less than a year before this case happened. She was a judge in 2017 and in 2018 she went back to be an attorney, as it also states on her LinkedIn profile. Unfortunately, because I live in the UK, most of the websites are blocked due to data protection, so I don't know what happened for the 'downgrade'....
Not to defend her (because I find her quite annoying myself) but can I see the source for that? My own search for her came up with a 2-ish star review total, but looking at the whopping 5 comments, at least two 1-stars were literally made today (Mar. 25, the day of this posting) so I'm not unconvinced that they didn’t come from people watching this video and nothing else. As far as any ethics violations, I went back through plenty of news reports and the only criminality I could find with her name mentioned was a violation by one of her campaign opponents when she ran for judge. NOT her specifically. If you have links, I would love to read them but I would think even a basic search would produce results if her violations were so egregious...
The way that attorny was almost screaming at Jason is so gross. His daughter has just died, that's no way to speak to a grieving father when you have no proof that he did anything wrong.
This case just shattered my heart. As a child who was abused, that women speaks exactly like my abusers. When they’re confronted with facts, they lie some more. So gross. As a nanny of many years, even if a parent said that I could spank, I would NEVER put hands on someone else’s kids. She is exactly where she belongs.
The fake “im so nice” voice she put on when talking to the lawyers was so gross. It boggles my mind how someone could intentionally hurt a child….I’ll never understand it.
Yes! She is sooo fake. You can see it. And I absolutely agree with the above statement with the physical discipline. I babysat for years when my children were little. For family and friends. And I was told on many occasions that I could discipline their children. I absolutely would never. I didn't physically discipline my children, I sure wasn't going to do it to someone else's. It makes me so so sad to think of what that poor little girl went through.
I know the defense attorneys are trying to do their job (everyone deserves representation, of course), but the level of disrespect here is jaw dropping. Especially when questioning a parent who has just lost their child... it's disgusting. I'm surprised they can show that level of unprofessionalism and not be asked to leave the court.
It seems to me that since the police never interrogated him she was trying to do it in the courtroom. The poor man just lost his child and remember - your client is the one on trial, not the father.
Right on the defenders time are not meant to be trying to win they are supposed to make sure there is justice, once a defense attorney knows that the accused is guilty then continues to try and win they should have a cell of their own
I agree, I could not represent anyone that I knew had done something to a child, no matter the ££$$. How do they sleep at night. Working for the devil!
The fact she admitted to shaking and upper cutting, poking and hitting Hannah and thinks it's ok to upper cut or hit a 3 year old she is GUILTY!!! WHO DOES THAT??!!!
For real! Like she said, I can understand people who spank their kids (not beating them with a belt, just a firm pat on the butt), but there's no reason to be basically beating up a child. She ADMITTED to doing that stuff but the defense still wants to treat the dad like a criminal?!
As hard as this father fought for his daughter and as much as he lived for her, it’s not fathomable (in my mind) that him harming her is even a possibility. The babysitter was bitter, angry, and didn’t have enough of a spine to stand up and SAY that she didn’t want to watch this child. She couldn’t stand up to adults, so she took it out on an innocent helpless child. Sickening.
Truly the most heartbreaking case I’ve heard in a while. He went through so much hardship and when things are finally looking up, the person he trusted with childcare turned out to be the one to cause unspeakable tragedy to him. I have a 3 year old daughter and I don’t think I could survive something like this happening.
I agree that he loved her, however why would he keep bringing her back everyday when she just kept coming home with more bruises? Like they said I’d understand something on the knee’s, hands, elbows, etc… but all over her face an head?? I’m sorry but that part didn’t sit right with me….
@@emilythomas4561 it seems as though he didn't have much of a choice... this was his boss' partner. He needed the job to provide for them both. He couldn't place her in other child care because it's insanely expensive. He couldn't accuse his boss' partner because he'd likely lose his job. I'm also guessing he just didn't believe she'd do the things she was doing because who would want to believe someone could treat a child like that? I'm sure he blames himself and I'm sure he lives with that guilt every. Single. Fucking. Day.
There is a special place in hell for anyone who hurts children, elderly or animals. How that dad kept his composure while that beast was questioning him says exactly the type of man he is. RIP Angel. No one can hurt you now
The way the defense tries to paint a scenario of Jason gunning it out of the driveway in reverse with the baby flying all over the car, is just... wtf 🤦🏻♀️ That defense team was just terrible.
This was the part that gets me too!! The baby sitter lives a couple if minutes down the road and shes trying to make it sound like he sped for a quick minute to her house. Smh this defense attorney ridiculous!
I would have said are you serious. Like bless her heart. I actually felt a little sorry for the defense attorney then. Like wow. A different kind of special.
Then 5 mins later she crucified him for NOT “slamming that thing in reverse” she is a fuc** lunatic! She looks like she needs an insanity plea! I understand being a defense attorney but I’ve never seen such a disrespect! When he changes his story, him going to Walmart, now he actually has a person to verify his alibi to that he didn’t do anything to Hannah! This defense is throwing shit at the wall left and right seeing what she can get visible see the jury responding to!
Having gone to an abusive babysitter when I was a child I can understand why she cried for her dad. I cried every day that my brother and I had to go there. It wasn’t until she beat my little brother so bad that there was no hiding it anymore. I never told my parents of the abuse that happened to me by the son of the babysitter. It would destroy my parents to know what I went through and still suffer from the memories of it. My heart goes out to Hannah and her father. I hope Lindsey is never released.
It is so terrible and heartbreaking to hear what you and your brother had to go through as innocent children. Hoping and praying that you all have, and will continue to find peace and healing in your lives
I’m no lawyer I ain’t even got a bachelors degree yet, but this defense attorney is horrendous. If you chose to have this person represent you, that says a lot about who you are as a person. I have never been so angry listening to a trial as I was listening to this father get questioned. Props to him for keeping up the ma’am’s and keeping composure, I have a headache for him. If you admit to “upper cutting” a three year old, there is no chance for reasonable doubt. Rest In Peace Hannah and I wish the father the best life could offer him after all this ❤️
This is exactly how I felt. It is sickening what Lindsay did to Hannah. It's tragic that there is people out there that actually try and defend someone who does something like this. My heart goes out to her dad after everything they went through.He was trying his best and then for this to happen I cannot imagine the pain he must feel. Especially with this lawyer making him feel terrible in the most unnecessary ways and he was still giving her immense amounts more respect than she gave him.
When they were questioning that first physician in pt 1 my blood was boiling! I know their job is to create doubt but let the renowned expert speak, asshole!!
Oh my gosh just watched part one… couldn’t stop thinking about it so I searched on TH-cam to see if anyone else covered it then I see you posted part two! So satisfying. This case is just horrifying and extremely saddening.
Also, as a neuro ICU nurse, you did such a great job explaining her injuries. It just goes to show the amount of effort and time you put in to understanding every case. You’re the best!!
That defense attorney….wild. She comes across rude and unprofessional. She’s totally ineffective. That would have been a total put off for me if I sat on that jury.
yeah, totally agree, I think she was going for like, the "bulldog" type of defense where your level of aggression is supposed to show how much you believe in your client's innocence and you're dropping bombshells left and right that make the jury's mouths fall open... but she just ended up yelling at and degrading a man whose child her client murdered and looking like even she knew Lindsay was guilty which is why she was trying to nitpick literal seconds of a timeline and a gallon of milk 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I can't imagine that at least SOME of the jury didn't feel the same way we all do, it was really a pathetic display and gave me secondhand embarrassment for her
I don't want to make you feel rushed or like you have to constantly pump out content, but I'm so happy that you put this out so soon after the first part. I couldn't wait to hear more about this case, especially from you!
I haven't even gotten through the whole video yet, I just can't believe how Jason stayed so calm and respectful during that absurd cross examination, along with the doctor from part 1, I would not have been able to do that. Honestly, bullying is the exact way I would describe their tactics, which to me just makes Lindsay seem more guilty.
Absolutely agree. I would have sobbed my heart so many times. That lawyer was just so needlessly cruel. I truly admire Jason’s strength and composure. I wouldn’t be able to disguise my contempt and disgust at some of the questions he was asked.
If I ever had to be cross examined and these were the lawyers doing it, I would not handle it well. I don’t like being yelled at and I hate being cut off when I’m trying to clarify something. Jason did a great job keeping his composure while being questioned like this!
It was absolutely infuriating how many times that man told the doctor to 'answer the question' despite having not asked one, or 'let me finish' and then clearly having nothing else to add so just talking gibberish. I don't know how he thought that was going to go down well with the jury or anyone in the court. The prosecution demonstrated that it is completely possible to cross examine someone aggressively and thoroughly without being rude and disrespectful.
Someone needs to ask this defense attorney if her morning routine is the same every day down to the second. Most people can give you an estimated time and amount of time it takes them to get out of the house every morning, but nobody times themselves down to the precise second. And it's entirely understandable that when a 3 year old is in the hospital with life threatening injuries, the father of that child might be confused to the previous days activities.
totally agree, I think that was her probably knowing that Lindsay was screwed and so she was throwing anything at the wall to see if it would stick. she definitely didn't do her client ANY favors, in fact she probably did the exact opposite
I believe Lindsey is guilty. I agree her relationship stressors contributed to what she did, but it doesn't excuse what she did. I babysat at home for a little bit and it was kind of a thankless job. I only charged 20$ per day for like 9 to 10 hour days. My biggest issue was getting paid I often would get shorted or put off another week. So I became unavailable to babysit. Simple as that. I wouldn't put up with it and I don't feel guilty about it.
I also believe she is guilty, and l think she should have known better than to assume that 'physical punishment' for toddlers was OK.... As a 'after school hours' teachers of young kids & adults, l often teach kids of 4, 5 or 6 years of age for 4 or 5 hour long shifts. Woe would be me if l ever laid a finger on any of them - the law in my country is bery clear about that. I'm also expected to provide instant and convincing explanations to parents if a child falls and hurts itsself whilst 'on my watch'. There is no way you could get away with presenting a badly bruised child to parents without some reasonable explanation, and we also usually require witnesses around us at all times....(other staff. the school receptionist, janitor etc..). My country is Spain, Europe.
I had 4 kids of my own and watched a toddler and a baby too and I charged 20$ per day too..because both were single moms who were waitresses at the Olive garden. They didn't have much money and neither did I...so I figured it would benefit everyone. I am more cautious with other people's children than my own even.
As you shouldn't. I am currently a live in nanny who makes nothing and while it sucks and I am extremely stressed (I have 4 more months before I have the ability to leave this state and the mom will have to figure it out on her own) never has it crossed my mind to take it out on the kid ... Like who even thinks that's ok? But you are 1000% right it's a thankless job and it's hard to put so much energy into the children and teach them good stuff potty train em and all and still be made to feel like you don't get a say in what they're doing when the parent is around. It ends up causing more problems cause the kid becomes confused as to boundaries and right and wrong.... Tis exhausting
seeing the dad testify breaks my heart. he seems like he was a wonderful dad. as someone who lost their father i almost feel jealous. Jason seems like an amazing father and i’m so furious that he had to go through this. as a fellow Hannah i’m disgusted that this happened. he is so brave and i hope he’s okay as of today. :(
The milk thing isn’t weird to me. I opened my cabinet up today, fully expecting to see an unopened bottle of vegetable oil for baking. To my surprise I didn’t have it. It turns out I thought about getting it so often, I actually thought I had it. The mind is a weird thing sometimes.
Plus add in the fact that his daughter is in the hospital fighting for her life. Yea I wouldn't remember where the fuck I went either. Also all I could think was what if they bought a small thing of milk and drank it all...like not everyone buys it by the gallon. Plus he said they has cereal for breakfast. Obviously that's not what happened, but like the milk not being there just didn't raise red flags at all for me.
Exactly!!! I don’t remember what I did yesterday ! And I always think I went to get something because every day I say I have to stop and get it and don’t end up doing it because I just want to get home after work
My blood is boiling everytime her attorneys open their mouths. The rude, hateful, demeaning manner in which they do their questioning is repulsive. I have to periodically stop listening and then come back to it because I'm getting so mad. 🤦 I don't know how Jason kept his composure.
Honestly, I skipped through some of it because the questions were sooo minute and irrelevant anyway and her tone was just so goddamn insufferable! Jesus. I wish it were possible for like, the judge to tell her to change her fucking tone when speaking to the father of the VICTIM
I wonder if the prosecutor warned him about the defence lawyers, especially the woman, and counselled him not to lose his shit with them because it would be really easy to do.
It speaks volumes to his character cuz I would of told her to go choke on the devils d!@% and probably ended up in contempt of court! This lady is just disgusting , literally just making up scenarios🤬You’d have to think the jury was made up of imbeciles to think they would believe Hannah fell into the backseat and that caused her death! No, not the admitted abuse! Falling in the backseat, wtf?!
This poor dad. Working so hard, doing everything he can to take care of his little girl, finally finding someone who seemed trustworthy to take care of her. The convenience of living so close to the babysitter and the babysitter giving him a little bit of a financial break. He probably felt that he was finally getting it all together. AND THEN...this!!! I can't imagine how he must feel if he listened to the detectives interview with this woman and what she did to Hannah. Hopefully he's getting some professional help, because this is a nightmare.
But the babysitter didn't want to live that close to them because she needed a break. It's not exactly fair to expect a stranger to take care of your child for 12 hours a day for 30 dollars... And he couldn't even pay that much on time...
@@AngelDeed If the killer thought it was unfair then she should have talked to the adult responsible for the child. A decent human being won't shake and hit a 3 year old in the head. She had one option. She could quit. But she chose to kill a baby.
@@AngelDeed Lindsey is an adult, capable of saying no when she doesn't want to do something. She agreed to watch poor Hannah and she was the one who set the rate. If it was that much of a problem she should have said she couldn't do it any longer. Or she could have renegotiated their arrangement. But obviously it wasn't that much of an issue...she said she would allow him to come home and work on a car he had some days when he got home, and she would agree to keep Hannah longer so that he could do that. If keeping the child was such an issue for her, why would she agree to that? I think she enjoyed having that child as her personal punching bag. The abuse had been going on over a period of time. I think Lindsey was happy to have something to take all of her resentment and frustration out on.
I'm concerned that no one in the court stood up for the dad. Going through a trial is retraumatizing already and then they allow him to be attacked like that? Unbelievable.
I agree - I know that it is allowed for things to get heated and argumentative during cross examination but I really think the judge should have stepped in here - it was appalling how that woman spoke to poor Jason and I felt like she was just making an absolute mockery of the court. She was like a defiant teenager arguing with her parents about something she knows is wrong. Imagine having so little defense that you have to try and catch a grieving father out by accusing him of lying about how many seconds it took to walk to his car? Some of the stuff she said, like when she was incredulous that he just started his engine and drove away on a cold day without letting it 'warm up' was unbelievable 😅 maybe it happens to some people but the way she was acting like it's an absolute universal fact that you should let your car 'warm up' before 'chucking it into reverse' is ludicrous. And she genuinely sounded like she believed she was making perfect sense! Delusional 😂
I actually think that's its good that they didn't, the more that lawyer spoke the more she showed her hand and the straws she was grasping. That said I was yelling at my phone telling her to just shut up and let the man answer.
@@stellapratt9659this is exactly right. In court the best thing you can do is stay calm and collected. I was on a two week trial once and the defendant would get angry and emotional and had a hard time being quiet when other people were testifying or the lawyers were making statements or presenting evidence. It made him look guilty as hell and you could tell it was a constant uphill battle for his lawyer (who, to his credit, never gave up despite how difficult and abusive his client was towards him).
“it’s hard to be accurate when you’re being condescending” that’s for sure. i cannot STAND these defense attorneys. i mean wow what disrespectful assholes. they are clinging to absolutely anything they can at this point. she is treating Jason like he is stupid.. which is appalling to me to talk to a man who just lost his daughter like that.
Props to Jason for keeping his cool and being respectful while being questioned. I honestly don’t think I would have been able to do the same. This poor man, he didn’t deserve this treatment.
Now knowing that her husband is a predator makes it even more chilling that he was so quick to offer Jason the house next door and why Lindsey was immediately apprehensive🧐Also probably why TJ just offered her babysitting services without even asking her first! My husband would never just offer me up to babysit without asking me first and I had found that really strange! It definitely sheds some light on why TJ was so willing to accommodate a man he didn’t even know!I just keep thinking how Jason has to be tormented by the fact that he thought life was finally falling into place for him and it was the means to the end of his little girls life 😔My heart goes out to him! Thank God Hannah insisted on double kisses… not everyone is so fortunate to get those few extra kisses before losing someone!
In response specifically to Hannah confirming the fall on the gravel/steps, one day when I was about 3 I started crying and refusing to walk. When my mother noticed I had a swollen knee, I told her over and over repeatedly with ABSOLUTE certainty that I had "fallen in the backyard and needed to go to the doctor." My mother took me to the hospital that day and I was diagnosed with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. I had never taken a fall. Nobody told me I fell. My mother and grandmother noticed the swelling and I assumed that i had because in my mind, at 3 years old, my knee was hurt and falling is how you hurt your knee. It would be EXTREMELY easy for Lindsay to look at the bruise and say "you must've gotten that when you fell on the steps" or even for Hannah to decide on her own that falling on the steps was an easy way to get a bruise. I know it's their job to defend her but that's like the stupidest argument i've ever heard especially considering the medical professionals testimonies.
Lindsay deserves what she will get in jail. They don't like pedophiles or child abusers. There are people in there who are never getting out and would love to put Lindsay outta her misery
@@jordanwiser4192 i actually read that its actually more like that in mens prisons. Womens prisons basically isolate the person & avoid them like the plague. Which in its own sense, its not great for them. But nowhere near a mens prison with those offenders.
I was thinking the same thing. He would basically just put Hannah to bed and wake her up again to bring her to Lindsay. How mad could he have gotten in a few hours a day?
Not to mention as a single father, he was doing the best he could. I don't think he would have slept in the car so that Hannah could sleep in the house if he was abusive to the point that he could kill her.
@@StephanieHarlowe Also that explains why he would see nothing, but makes her seeing nothing fishy. Thank you Stephanie for the voice you give to victims, you give each one their dignity and give them so much love. Look after yourself not easy spending so much time around so much pain and evil.
I can testify to this ( notice the pun? Lol) I was on a jury and I couldn't stand the prosecutor; he was a snot nose pompous ass. We found the defended guilty of 1 charge but not guilty on the rest.
@Lisa Stalnaker I was wondering why his lawyers weren’t saying anything. I would’ve been objecting left and right. She don’t make any sense. I would’ve lost my absolute sht. That was ridiculous. And it rubs off on there client. They are representing the client, there behavior rubs off and represents the client. They made me dislike her very much.
Does anyone else listen to these stories and think about how screwed they’d be if someone they know was murdered because they can’t remember most of the stuff they did beyond a day ago or when anything happened? Or is that just me? I’ll be telling a friend a story and it’s like “so yesterday…or maybe it was the day before…no wait…anyway some time recently”
😆 you're not the only 1. I'd be so screwed. ESPECIALLY if it were up to me to work w a sketch artist to made a rendition of a suspect. "Um...he had 2 eyes....a nose?"
I have often thought I should start keeping a diary and all my receipts! If someone wanted to frame me I’d be like “well. Your memory is probably better than mine.” Then I’d have to learn to like orange and showering with company.😞
“Like a mother.” She had her for 48 hours per week maximum including any nap time, and little Hannah felt she wasn’t the same as a parent. Hannah cried after her dad had to leave for work for apparently enough days (probably every day based on her age and just adoring her dad as many little kids do) to agitate a stressed woman into “slapping her upside the head.” Kids cry when their parents drop them off at school even after they’ve made friends and gotten to like their teachers. That says so much about how Hannah felt that that wasn’t family or part of her home. ALSO, the girl lost consciousness under Lindsey’s care. I think the cops were aware of that at the point of interviewing Lindsey. It seems perfectly reasonable that the person the child was with when they were harmed, comatose, etc. would be interviewed immediately before they had too much time to build a story.
Hannah probably knew within her little, innocent soul, that something terrible was in that house. My heart breaks at the thought of her wanting and needing her Daddy to help her. 😥
Stephanie could make a 3 hour video on literally anything and I’d be glued to my screen for 3 hours!! & I can’t even sit thru a movie! All the research she does on each case and the passion she has for every single victim she talks about is what makes her differ from most true crime channels on TH-cam (most not all other channels, there’s others that I love to watch that put in the work and have the passion as well) I haven’t watched anything on this case or trial yet bc I’ve been waiting to watch hers!
@@CaseyMarie11-11 omg I'm exactly the same 😂😂😂 I still haven't watched lord of the rings cause I just can't concentrate for those hours but I watch shit on youtube 8 hours straight and be fine 😂
The way the defense attorney presents these "gotcha" questions makes me feel like she's going for that scene in Legally Blonde where the daughter breaks down and confesses everything. Like what does she think is going to happen? She's the worst.
What angers me most about this is that she had time to realise that taking out her frustration on an innocent child was wrong. This abuse happened on several occasions, on different days. It got bad enough that she had to panic and research how to make bruises go away, she had to lie to her dad, she had to realise what she was doing was wrong. How was that not a wake up call ? Even if she was angry, frustrated, unhappy, how is that not the moment where you realise you’re doing something really, really wrong ? How could she go ahead and abuse poor Hannah again later ?
She's pure evil, how some people still believe she's innocent is mind blowing, you don't falsely confess in that short amount of time!! No way especially the way she did, she was no way under insane pressure..she's guilty as charged and she's exactly where she belongs...
Yes, I agree. She wasn't forced or coerced by the detectives into making a false confession. They weren't grilling her over and over and putting words into her mouth. If you want to hear someone being coerced into making a false confession, listen to the interrogation of Jesse Miskelly who was a minor who had a low IQ and was in the interrogation room for 12 hours, alone without either his parents or an attorney, being grilled by the detectives. The way they got him to change up what he had originally told them to match what they wanted him to say was so obvious that I cannot believe that his "confession" was even allowed to be used!
Not only would it be hard to break someone in such a short period of time, but also who the hell FALSELY confesses to BEATING A LITTLE GIRL?! That would be the furthest thing from my mind to "admit" no matter how much duress I was under.. Beating a defenseless child?! It's horrific 😞
Stephanie, you need to do a third episode. A follow up now that Tjs case has settled, and now that Lindsay has done her first jail house interview claiming she’s innocent.
Hey Daisy, may I ask you something: 'settled'the case, could that also be a false accusation? Just watched the whole trial of Lindsay, and was just wondering. No information to be found on TJ. Was media too quick and maybe false? Seems to me, something like that cannot be settled?
@@belleblaas3843 he plead down to an assault charge and ended up getting a couple years of probation for it. There has been rumors that it was a false accusation. But one may never really know the truth. The media didn’t report on it again because it was nothing exciting I guess. I saw that he plead down in his public case file.
@@Sortedsavvy Thanks. Yes, no information can be found. I watched/listened to the whole trial this weekend. Knew about Lindsay's police interviews, what made her guilty. And also her being on the stand, and she messed up day 7. part 3 at the end. But also, originally Hannah was a heroin baby. 3 months with birth in hospital. With 9 months, her mother tested hepitites C, and Hannah was never tested for it. Those kids need extra patience, extra need, extra care. So sad what happened. I do think, Lindsay lost her temper. Without all the other bruises on that tiny little body, hospital wouldn't have thought: child abuse. It still can be tunnel vision. And because Linsay admitted in police interviews, how she treated Hannag, her lies, her different stories, she was guilty. But police also should have investigated daddy's phone. Police never did that anymore, further investigation, because Lindsay admitted. How she had treated/ disciplinned Hannah.
Hands down without a doubt THE best true crime creator on TH-cam. NO other person does the amount of research like Stephanie. The 3/4/5 parters with Derrick, the 2hr videos… outstanding. No gimmicks, no insensitivity, no 6 ads throughout. Deserves way more subs!
I was being SA'd by my biological father from the ages of 2-8. My earliest memory is my sperm donor coaching me on bruises trauma. I on more then one occasion was asked and I lied every time. I was 8 before I told the truth. Getting kids to lie for you isn't hard.
I am so sorry you had that horrible thing happen to you especially from the person who was supposed to give their life protecting you. I'm sending healing thoughts and prayers to you, and may he burn in hell!
my abuser also coached me to lie. he once told me to tell my mom my stuffy nose and red eyes were just from allergies and not from crying because he had hit me. she was going to school and had a test that evening, so he "didn't want me to upset her" and "make her fail"
i understand what the defense is saying about how jason wasn’t looked at enough…but given the specific type of injury hannah acquired happened IMMEDIATELY, once jason was confirmed NOT IN THE HOUSE, this seems to be a non-issue???
Man, I was a nanny for about 16 years and deeply didn't want to believe she did this but the medical evidence alone is so strong, and coupled with her confession? She's exactly where she belongs.
The most telling thing of all for me was her demeanor when being questioned. If a three year old child that I cared for collapsed and died while i was caring for her (even if she wasn’t with me) I’d be inconsolable, hysterically crying etc. she’s is so nonchalant it makes me want to shake HER! She is where she deserves for what she did to that child and I hope the other inmates treat her accordingly!!
I had the same thought. I know people grieve differently, but I don't know if I've ever seen someone so nonchalant while describing a situation where a 3 year old died.
I agree. In my opinion, behavior like this just makes it seem like she's more concerned with not getting in trouble than anything else, and she kinda seems annoyed that she's there...
Same; this is tragic, but my mother in law had a friend who ran an at home daycare for decades. A little boy in her care drowned in her pool (it was locked). I don’t know details, but he went missing and they found him in the pool. The family did not place blame on her at all, but she shut down her home daycare and hasn’t been the same since. We felt so bad for her and the little boys family, it was a horrible situation. But yeah, she was inconsolable and became a shut in.
Yes, the way she smiles and laughs at times, like when asked about her wedding. Especially in part one when she is talking to the cops and is all "super helpful" and smile-y, acting things out, while a child that was IN HER CARE is unresponsive in the hospital. It's like she has a programmed set of responses about how she should act, but they are not how any sane person WOULD act.
Honestly, the discrepancy in Jason's story could just be due to the extreme amount of distress. The police should've done their due diligence, but ultimately I think the right person is in prison. Thank you for telling Hannah's story. What a beautiful, smart and bright little girl.
I can definitely relate to Jason mixing up whether he had gone to the store or what he had been doing. I know it might have sounded fishy, but I often find myself doing a similar thing. When you work a Monday through Friday you’r super tired and every thing gets mixed up. If I need gas sometimes I swear I got it yesterday. When it was in fact last week. All your days run together. I don’t even have a child and can only imagine the stress that would add to my situation of never ending days that feel like one long day.
100%!!!! Working ft and parenting makes everything run together! I too have thought I did something one day but it was actually a different one.. I didn't find that suspicious at all.. If anyone did they dont have kids.. In my opinion
I formerly worked with children in foster care, during my work I uncovered two houses where children were being abused in care, in both houses the female was physically abusive, the male sexually grooming/abusing… while I can’t go into details I can say that the degree of abuse they used showed that there was a pattern of setting the child up to seek comfort from the male perpetrator.. however these same women would often have times where they would be alone with the child and treat them with absolute malice I can honestly say it appeared they were “jealous” of the child and the interest their partner took in them , yet seen this as the fault of the child not the fault of the perpetrator. I truly believe that Lindsey is guilty of the death of Hannah, that little girl was absolutely her punching bag and there should never be parole for that crime. My thoughts are with Hannah, Jason and all who loved her.
Thank you for sharing your professional knowledge as a very X social worker I too have dealt with case like this. A really horrible situation to deal with due to the huge breach of trust.
@candybarr here in the Uk the levels of corruption are indeed high and they ensure that the whistle blowers are gone pretty quick …The family court remains secretive here despite attempts to have it made more open
As a former foster kid, I don't have children because I don't believe anyone is safe. It's not just physical and sexual abuse, but some people really enjoy the emotional side of abuse or withhold food and then call it a trauma response from previous abuse - as if they're not responsible for you hiding food or whatever. People are manipulative and scary, I prefer animals 100% of the time, all day.
Lindsey's "husband" was arrested for molesting a child under 10 years old, I googled Lindsey's case and a news story of his arrest popped up. He was released on bond and I can't find anything else about what happened
The charges brought against TJ are significant to me. There have been cases where men are sexually abusing children and their partners grow resentful of the attention that the child is getting from their significant other while they, themselves, feel neglected. That resentment can turn into abuse and I think that that’s a real possibility in this case.
Had Hannah been being sexually abused by TJ, don't u think it would have been found during her autopsy? An autopsy isn't just performed where it's believed to have been the cause of death. The Med Examiner will look at all parts of the body, not just the head as in where this childs injuries were sustained. Also, because of the multiple bruises found on Hannah's body, one in particular being the buttock cheek, they would have examined her for sexual abuse to rule that either in or out. I'm glad that wasn't the case, I say that with certainty as it wasn't brought up in Lindsey's trial as a factor and I'm pretty certain her lawyer would have latched onto quickly to make the father look like a predator. Jason handled himself worthy of his dedication and love for Hannah, he had nothing to hide!! Rest in Peace sweet girl, one day, u and daddy will be together again!!
@@cherylgudde580 unfortunately sexual abuse takes many forms, some of which leave little to no physical evidence. I agree that it wasn’t brought up in the trial because there was most likely no solid evidence, but that also doesn’t rule it out as a possibility. It’s also possible that Lindsay was aware of TJ’s attraction to minors, specifically Hannah, and that was all it took to fuel that resentment towards her
Listening to this, the dad forgetting what he was doing the night before this happened to his child, I can totally get it. If I were him and that was my daughter or son I wouldn’t be able to tell you what day it was. His child was dying, I don’t think any parent would know what to say or how to act. He lost his baby girl, she went through hell before she died. I hope he finds peace and so does his family. The babysitter seriously needs to rot for this.
Exactly. Makes me sick. She was definitely taking her frustrations out on this poor baby. I'm glad sje wasn't abusing her own children but sje shouldn't have been taking other children into her home if she couldn't handle a child crying because sje missed her dad.. maybe Hannah wouldn't have cried for her dad so much if she wasn't being abused in this b**ches care all day.
Not only that but her husband's an alcoholic and most alcoholics are abusive and obviously abusive to his so called wife Lindsey. Not only that but he's also a pedophile and probably qas abusing the children so Lindsey didn't want that out so shook her so it wouldn't eventually come out.
Immense respect for Hannah’s dad and his composure. The prosecution as well. Very well spoken and respectful in contrast to that screechy defense attorney. My goodness!! Her voice and attitude made me want to bang my head against the wall🤦🏼♀️
I absolutely agree with you! Her voice and the words she said made me so angry!! She's so disconnected..she's trash. I pray she never gets out of prison!!
My son is autistic and nonverbal and I had this playing on the tv. When that woman talks he puts his hands on his ears and leaves the room for about 4 seconds
@@nonyabuiz3605 that's crazy bc my autistic, semi verbal, 8 y/o came over to look at my phone,and see what the lady was screaming about and then told me "off please" and left the room 🤨🙄😳😁
This woman oozes passive aggression. The score keeping, denial of anger, being resentful yet unable to say when she’s upset or angry and physical abuse. My experience is a passive aggressive person is a volatile person. All the resentments build up until the rage cannot be contained. I have been on the receiving end of a passive aggressive rage many times. It was always brutal.
Yes! It's unfortunately pretty common in women, especially in the Midwest where most people have religious beliefs about submitting to men and being solely responsible for the children and home.
@@rosemarybowser5543 she kept track of every extra thing she did for Hannah, and everything her father didn’t do (like bathe and bring lunches) in a list.
I am a new subscriber based on recommendation from my daughter who follows you. After watching both parts of this case, I understand why my daughter did. I was the Director of a Child Welfare agency for more than 25 years and have a Masters degree in Psychology. Sadly, I am very familiar with the issues outlined in this case. It is complicated and heart breaking. In my opinion you are an excellent reporter of details. I always have questions but you covered this so comprehensively, I was amazed! I know I will be a regular subscriber!
My first year working with kids was in a daycare setting, and I was witness to some truly upsetting and awful abuse that resulted in children being removed from parents custody. Since then I worked with kids for 12 years until my daughter was born. Doing these jobs and seeing the absolute worst case scenario for kids.. it changes you. As a person and as a parent.
Stephanie: This is going to be a long video, so run to the bathroom, grab a snack, whatever it is that you need to be ready to sit here with me for an hour and a half or more. Me: **Puts phone on kitchen bench, prepares dinner.** **Puts phone on washing machine, throws in laundry.** 😂😂😂
Stephanie travels with me too 🤣 Cooking, cleaning, working. I saw part 2 was up late last night and listened to this in the shower. My mom works in my home as a nurse, she said if I need to find Brandi just follow the sound of " the TH-cam lady" lol
The prosecuting attorney did such a great job! She was very well spoken and thorough while totally ripping apart Dr. Spitz’s testimony. Amazing how you can be effective without screaming at a grieving father and treating the jury like they’re stupid. Biggest eye roll when she brought out that “not guilty” sign. 🙄
the fact that the lawyer is grilling jason about the 30 seconds it takes him to walk to his car and which specific seat he put her in is insane. if I were in his position I legitimately could not have kept my composure id have to leave
@@FrenkTheJoy from the comment his eldest daughter left on this video it seems his composure came without coaching. she said he never once laid a hand on her or her siblings and didnt even like to raise his voice with them. mad respect for jason
I have so much respect for your Dad who handled himself in a dignified and respectful manner while being "cross examined" by that whining, dramatic nit-picking drama queen of a defence attorney. A good dad doing his best under very difficult circumstances. My thoughts are with you and your family and lm not wasting a moment of my time thinking about that murderous vicious babysitter Lindsay Partin
Yesssss! She spends so much time and does so much research on literally EVERY case ❤️ Not many creators can even make a 2 hour video,much less one that people actually want to watch & this is only half of the case! Her dedication to these cases is definitely appreciated 💙
Wow! This was... a LOT! Stephanie, seriously, thank you so much for putting so much into your work. And then sharing this with us so clear and thorough. I can only image how many hours you put in to research alone! Then writing/script, then recording, then editing... I'm blown away by all the wrinkles this case had in it. When I first heard of this case, the trial had already passed but I had so many questions and I couldn't find much on TH-cam (and I didn't have time to actually read anything). You answered all of my questions and SO MUCH MORE! RIP HANNAH!
I was abused by my home daycare provider and their son when I was 4-5 years old. I was so scared of being in trouble with my parents for what the daycare people did, I never told them what happened. Not til I was 14. At 3, I believe Hannah wouldn't have told her dad bc 1, she was scared of her and 2, she thought she "deserved" it bc it was coming from the person who "took care of her" and told her that "she loved her". That poor baby girl. My heart breaks for her 💔
Yes, many children never tell because they think they deserve it since it is someone that is supposed to care for them doing it. I was a teen before I realized being beaten for the littlest things weren't normal in a home.
I’m so very sorry you went through that. My son was abused by his caregiver for 9 months. He was 4 years old was abused by his pre-k teacher all year and he would always say he fell on the playground or something when we asked about bruises. The one thing we missed were his shins. On the last day of school we asked him if he was excited that he graduated and he told us “I’m happy I don’t have to see Mrs. Tanya again.” We asked about that because she was the director and seemed like she adored the kids. He told us she would hit and pinch him when he didn’t want to take a nap. He said she used her “sharp fingers”. We pulled over and I immediately checked his body. Sure enough, little crescent shaped pinch marks all down his shins. I was so furious. I wanted to kill her, but thankfully my husband calmed me down and we were able to get her shit down through the legal system.
Of all the cases you have talked about, even CASEY ANTHONY, somehow this woman made me madder. The fact that she didn’t even lie to the cops. She ADMITTED what happened, ADMITTED to using an UPPERCUT ON A TODDLER, and then looked everyone in the eye at court and tried to lie about it. She sat there as that child’s father was treated like garbage by her attorney, and looked BORED? I can’t even. I actually got upset and turned it off a few times and took a breather. I was pissed off all night last week with part one. My hubby laughed at me and ran me a bubble bath with my favorite bath bomb. Apparently I needed to “gather my thoughts”. 🤣 Anywho, I love all of your videos! Crime Weekly has become my new favorite podcast and I’ve almost watched all of the videos on TH-cam. Then I plan to listen to the older ones. Thank you for doing what you do. You respect the victims, remain objective (as much as possible), do so many hours of research, and tell the truth even if it isn’t as dramatic as what sells papers. You are the best true crime TH-camr by far! Thank Youuu!
This slimy git is SMILING in court. As if an innocent, sweet little girl's life wasn't lost over her actions. She doesn't deserve another second of attention. I hope this little angel is resting in heaven, my thoughts are with her poor father and family. Love the way you handled this case Stephanie! 💛
The father reaction in court was very appropriate in my mind. I am a Neonatologist/Pediatrition, in talking to parents about their child. When the condition is very bad, it is not unusual to have to repeat the information several times, and they continue to ask the same questions. They’re not in a good frame of mind and forgetting whether they got milk or not, it’s not unusual. Sometimes they even forget their names. The stress of I seeing one’s child on a ventilator, it’s too hard to explain unless one have been in that position.
One of my biggest fears, when I started working after my daughter was born, was baby sitter abuse. She was 1 and wouldn't be able to tell me what was happening. Thank God, I found an amazing daycare lady.
It can be awful from the other side too unfortunately. Lindsay trying to turn it around and blame Hannah's dad reminded me of something that happened with my mom when I was little. Back in the 90s when I was a kid, my mom used to babysit full time. She was babysitting kids/toddlers the same age as me because she was a single mother who wanted to spend time with me but needed to work and it was a great way to socialize me since I was an only child too. She had this one little girl who she started babysitting, and she started noticing bruises on her. She asked every time she saw one and the parents would explain it away, but she kept getting more and more suspicious. One day, she noticed something particularly concerning when she was changing the girls diaper (you can imagine what kind of abuse she was thinking at that point), so she immediately called the police, who called CPS. The parents tried saying that they had no idea what had happened and that surely it must've been the babysitter, my mom, the one person who was trying to help that poor girl. She never found out what happened with the girl though, they just stopped bringing her and she was never asked to testify in court or anything. The parents tried to bad-mouth her to other parents but nobody believed them and eventually they moved out of the area. She always says she still wonders what ever happened to that little girl though, she only babysat her a few times but it was clear that she was the only one on her side, trying to keep her safe from whoever was hurting her. It's awful too to think that she reported that and there was never any follow up, which means there was never any punishment. It's just always so frustrating when people hurt the innocent and people just fucking suck so much sometimes -_-
I think him forgetting that he didn’t go to pick up Milk isn’t unusual. He works 12 hours a day, is a single dad and yeah. My husband is the same way and mixes up days all the time. I think the fact that he was upfront when he realized that he didn’t go to get milk was a little telling as well. I think that even if the detectives did investigate him more that he still would have been cleared.
I think we all forget that he three daughters so yeah that seems totally understandable. I usually don't even remember what I had for dinner the night before lol
I’ve got adhd and it messes up my conceptualization of time super bad!! I’m horrible at remembering what day it is, what I did yesterday, how long ago things were, how far away things are, differentiating between what I did two days ago to three days ago, you get the gist. Definitely not a suspicious thing at all. Also how often do people consciously remember their days in great detail like this as if they’re going to put on the stand??? I sure don’t!! A regular day is just a regular ass day. Expecting people to suddenly have picture perfect memories is the most frustrating thing to see in trials because it’s just not realistic.
This story was so devastating. In part one, when you mentioned how she kept wanting kisses from her daddy- on the day of her murder. Hearing that broke me to my core.
Me too. I am a grandma. And my biggest weakness, was my kids not wanting me to drop them off. Or now, my grandson not wanting me to. I can’t do it. I pray he doesn’t feel guilty over this. I can’t even imagine
I’ve always loved your videos. I had a baby 11 months ago and so have been so busy and sleep deprived and haven’t had a chance to keep up to date but recently have been trying to catch up on all your videos Ive missed. I have tried to avoid the child videos because it hurts me so much but I watched these two videos and bloody hell it broke me. I cuddled my baby so tight afterwards. That child’s father is innocent, anyone with half a brain can see that. Stephanie, you are my favourite true crime TH-camr, I love everything about you, the way you paint such a vivid picture of it all, your sense of humour, your wit, your line of thinking etc I’m looking forward to Harloween if that’s still a thing?! Anyways much love from Australia xxxx
The prosecutor going in on their medical examination findings to counter his paid opinion, absolutely broke my heart. You can see and hear in her voice how heartbroken this whole case has left her and the subtle adrenaline in her tone is of a woman defending a child from an attack as if even in death, she felt poor Hannah was still being attacked through their unbelievable claims. She is so incredible to take on that case.
Jason Wesche is my dad, I’m the oldest of his 3 daughters. I just want to say that my dad did the best he could under the circumstances, and we all live in hell everyday knowing what Hannah went through.. it’s been 4 years and I still cry everyday. I miss her so much. It’s relieving seeing the supporting comments. A lot of people think my dad hurt Hannah, but my 21 years of being alive my dad has never laid a hand on me or my siblings. He didn’t even like raising his voice at us. I love and miss you Hannah Jade❤️ and I couldn’t ask for a better dad!
I hope he knows people all over support him and see he was doing his best. ❤️
My heart is sending you positive energy ❤️
Praying for your dad and family!!! I can’t imagine.
I don't think anyone in this comment section thinks your dad hurt hannah. I hope you and your family find peace, and that lady can rot in prison as she deserves.
Sending so much love to you and your family ❤️❤️❤️
Lindsey wasn’t “like a mother” to Hannah. She was like a woman who got paid to babysit and was secretly beating the shit out of a defenseless little girl…to Hannah.
😢😢😢😢
Absolutely. I understand that people can be "like" family, but what a stretch in this case.
I couldn't have said it any better .. I Agree with you 100% 😢
@@JLynnEchelon - I would have been kicked off that jury almost immediately after her lawyers opened their mouths. I could barely hold it together just listening to these clips of them. I would have lost my shit if I were there. Although I don’t think I qualify for jury duty anymore. 10 years ago I was selected & during voir dire I told the judge that I couldn’t be on the jury because I had really bad hemorrhoids, so sitting there all day would be an actual pain in my ass. I didn’t…but I was pretty sure no one would check. Anyway, haven’t even gotten a summons since then. 😂
@@william1118 - Her attorneys might have been even worse humans than she is. I honestly think they said that because they wanted to remind the jury that Hannah’s actual mother was an addict who used during her pregnancy, so her life was already put at risk before she was even born…in an attempt to cast a shadow over everyone else involved & make Lindsey seem like the only person in the world who didn’t HAVE to care for this baby…but, who chose to. And if that didn’t work, planting the seed that Hannah’s mother was an addict who didn’t want her couldn’t hurt their case. They spent the whole trial doing shit like that…because they couldn’t defend their guilty client by traditional means.
It makes COMPLETE sense that this would have happened within minutes of Jason leaving Hannah with Lindsey. We already know that Hannah arrived earlier than any other children, and that Lindsey’s own kids weren’t even awake when Hannah arrived. We know that Lindsey had to wake up early on days when she had Hannah. We know that she would end up feeding her breakfast early, and would then have to feed the other kids later, so Lindsey is pissed off with her husband, she’s awake much earlier than she’d have to be if Hannah wasn’t there, and her kids were still sleeping. By her own admission, Lindsey would be physically abusive with Hannah, regardless of how she defines those actions…so, it’s safe to assume that Hannah might cry when her dad left. Lindsey is tired, she’s only awake because Hannah’s there, her own kids are asleep & she doesn’t want them to wake up…and Hannah starts to lose her little kid shit because her dad just left. It makes ABSOLUTE sense that a person who is already prone to physically abusing this kid would use force in an attempt to shut her up.
Sadly, she could have achieved the desired outcome alternatively, by just holding Hannah…giving her hugs & kisses, and reminding her that daddy would be back later, but they had a whole day of fun to look forward to together. It takes 2 minutes to cook some frozen French toast sticks in the microwave…and while I think they’re gross, my nieces love them…Lindsey knew what time Hannah would be there, she knew that she’d become upset when her dad left…how hard is it to have something there to distract her when she gets upset? How hard is it to snuggle a baby who’s crying? Nothing inside me believes that Jason watched his premature, heroin addicted, baby daughter thrive in the NICU, then fought for full custody, arranged his life around her, and worked his ass off for her, just to abuse her & end up killing her. But I do believe that the psycho who admitted to physically abusing Hannah, whose text messages prove that she was bitter about having her there in the first place, would.
Hell, just make the baby love being at the house, throughout the day, and there would be no crying to deal with anyway. She might even come in, take off her coat, and fall back asleep on the couch. How long had she been watching her? I am sure she told us. But I can’t remember. It wouldn’t take but a week or two, and the crying would stop, if she had only treated her kindly.
Nailed it. 'Nuff said.
people like her think it’s not okay for kids to cry and feel those feelings. when i watch my niece and nephew, sometimes they cry because their mom is leaving. how could i ever blame them for feeling the things they feel? we’re supposed to be there for them, not fucking betray them!!
exquisitely explained and summarized. These were my initial thoughts almost exactly.
Agree 💯 percent!
The lawyer that spoke to Jason was absolutely disrespectful and frankly, the way Jason handled it was much better than anything I would do.
Plus anyone can forget Al u thinking about your child
Lindsey's attorney was so horrifing.
She made her side look terriable yelling at the Dad whose child was murdered by her client. 😡😡😡
I dont get why they are so salty about the milk issue?
There’s questioning strongly to try and confuse the witness re evidence/testimony given and exposing discrepancies, and then there’s screeching at a bereaved father over unimportant details trying to get him to explode in anger and thus introducing reasonable doubt (!?) as a tactic. The latter is not a good look to a jury.
@@wendywilkinson
I concur....💣💥💣💥💣💥
Thanx that makes sense
I almost had to turn the video off because I could handle her screaming at him. He handled that so well.
I love how the dad basically schools the defense attorney on semantics...he's paying attention to the phrasing of the questions and answers exactly what was asked, how it was asked. She's not tripping him up at all! He highlights the ridiculous nature of her accusations.
He is so cool.
He is so polite all the way through the inquisition. How he managed to remain calm with this woman I don’t know. Kudos to the poor man. She doesn’t let the poor man answer the question she’s asking him.
He is my spirit animal! He wasn’t going for that at all period!
Imagine working your ass off to provide for your child single-handedly, working hard ass manual labor all day every day, getting a couple hours with the absolute light of your life, to only have her taken from you. AND THEN TO BE ACCUSED OF HAVING A HAND IN HER DEATH. My heart totally goes out to Jason.
He seems like such a genuine guy just doing his best. I feel so awful for him.
Especially after a hard divorce🥺 it wasn't Jason's fault that TJ was a terrible father . That poor little girl who did no wrong and could do no wrong.
@@kathymyers7279 cheap!? You don't know how hard it is for single parents to budget for childcare. And I know of absolutely 0 childcare centers that'd care for a child for the whole twelve hours that this man has to be at work. Fuck off blaming this man for something that happened to his daughter when he was not there. This is not his fault.
@@kathymyers7279 He probably thought (as we all would) that she would be better off in a family situation with one caregiver rather than with multiple caregivers. Do day cares in the US take children for 12 hour days?
@@kathymyers7279 30 dollars per day out of your 100/day is a big chunk. I get what you're saying, but for some parents is just not possible to pay more. Sad situation
You can just feel dad's pain. This defense attorney grasped at straws, bullied her way through, couldn't break him. He's so soft and polite and worked his butt off for hannah. You can feel it. You can see it on his face. He loves his baby girl
If he was capable to lose his shit and beat his daughter he certainly would have lost his shit with that bullshit lawyer. He kept his cool you could tell he was screaming inside.
@ccaarriissaa exactly - I wanted to lose my shit and would have found it hard not to have hurt her if I'd been witnessing her bullying poor Jason 😢 he did his daughter proud and got her justice. I hope the lawyers for the defence are so embarrassed by their behaviour in this trial that they want to curl up and die. But I get the impression that they're so ignorant that they'll think they were amazing. One of those cases where someone is too stupid to be able to understand how stupid they actually are and therefore think they're a genius. I hope they never get hired again, it was an absolute sh*t show!
@@haileyranson8255I agree. They were awful. Bullying and so condescending. And then they didn’t even prep her well. She got up on the stand and made a fool out of herself and yeah I agree that she is stupid but the attorney shouldn’t have said that. Lindsay beat and bullied Hannah and her lawyer was so bullying and abusive towards Jason, an innocent father who lost his sweet baby girl. His whole family lost their poor little Hannah. It’s hard to lose a child to anything but it’s really incomprehensible to lose a child to murder, and then being blamed for it. Jason is such a good person and father. It’s so obvious that Lindsay is guilty regardless of her bitchy attorneys. Apparently Lindsay wasn’t happy with them either and was blaming them for not suppressing her confession, which seems like something that they wouldn’t be able to do anyway.
The fact that Lindsey’s attorney is allowed to speak to the father of a deceased child like that is absolutely ridiculous and I understand being stern; however, her attitude seemed beyond unprofessional and disrespectful and the judge should have said something because she wasn’t even asking questions that were relevant half of the time. Also the idea that anyone could tell the timeline of their morning by the exact second like she was trying to make Jason recall is insane to me.
I thought the same thing! Trying to set up a timeline like that in SECONDS, of all things. It doesn't prove anything. I wish she could've been interrupted with an objection because I just don't see the relevance (unless they're insinuating that he did something to his daughter before dropping her off). Granted, as Stephanie said, they were likely hoping he'd snap so they could play off his frustration and use it against him.
I think the judge might've been like the prosecution - realizing that the defense attorney is coming off absolutely insane, which means the jury won't like her.
I already hated her, but when she was like "It was cold that day, and your car doesn't just warm up" and he said "No, ma'am" the absolutely incredulous way she said "It DOES?!" Like that's obviously not what he said, you horrible, horrible scumbag of a human.
And she just kept cutting him off every time she asked something. It's like she watched too much Perry Mason as a kid and thinks she's hot shit.
I thought the same thing. He handled that way better than I would have
@@megang.4646 I definitely would have lost it. He’s very strong for being able to do whatever he needed to get justice for his daughter.
Definitely unprofessional
It's disgusting to think that people actually think she's innocent...
These people are quite literally delusional in a terrible way. And that attorney? A damn NIGHTMARE.
They most likely took the VC/MOTB as well......same sceniero. 🤪
It's sooo painfully obvious that she was trying to cover her ass the whole interview.
Like the idiots that freed Casey Anthony.
There's people out there who've done bad shit where the victims actually survived and people still believe the criminal is innocent. Like that MMA fighter who almost beat his ex-girlfriend to death, people are always pouring out support for HIM on his social media despite the very gruesome photos of her from the incident. It's just so hard to have faith in humanity when people are out there wholeheartedly believing the innocence of disgusting people like that.
Nightmare client for nightmare attorney
The prosecutor was incredible. So satisfying to see her speak and further convince everyone of Lindsey's fucked up actions
And she did it without sounding like a shrieking harpy!
I agree. I was squirming watching Lindsay do that condescending fake smile every time she answered a question. She wasn’t fooling anyone.
@@katietye3673 That was super cringe. I remember being like that when I was an arrogant TEENAGER and young adult. Just ew.
@@StephanieHarlowe prosecutor last nail in Lindsey’s coffin was asking her what was the last truthful statement she told the detective’s. Great trial to watch! It was telling when TJ did not give an impact statement
She was on her head 😂😂 silly vapid smirking MEGA BIYATCH
Imagine being a whole-ass lawyer and screeching "AREYOUKIDDINGME" in court
Maybe from a half-ass lawyer, but a whole-ass lawyer? Never! LOL!
@@Smiles2U4Everlol you funny 😂
And she earn a big salary too. It s a shame . Know lawyers work long hours, but if you are a bully you dont deserve that wages.
@@irenestrmnss4496 Blood money
She's definitely whole ass and nothing else
In case Hannah's dad, Jason, should ever read these comments: Jason, you were a good Dad, Hannah knew you loved her, and I am very sorry for the loss of your beautiful girl and the grief you have had to endure.
May God Bless you, you are a rare empathetic person.
He didn't even try to help her. She was coming home every day with extensive bruising and he didn't even bother to care.
@@maddy2860 She had hep c and likely got bruised so often he probably wouldn’t notice - plus she always seemed to justify her bruises to him. Don’t blame him for being the best he could be for his daughter. I feel like you may not have kids. All you do is try to be the best you can be. But you saying this is like blaming any other parent for their child getting abused. Most of the time you don’t know. The child gets too scared to say anything. It’s not his fault. It is that evil woman. He tried his best to be a good single father.
@@maddy2860 there no point in guilting him. he most likely is questioning what he “could’ve or should’ve done” it’s not ur place to talk shit about his actions. He lost his child. I can guarantee you he is hurting enough
@@cydneycustalow6446 I just don't think he's as innocent as you think. He gave her permission to discipline his daughter and the never questioned the bruises. Sus
The defence attorney made me roll my eyes so hard. She was bullying a father who just lost his child, thinking she did something after straight up lying. Absolutely unbelievable. I hope Lindsay’s children are okay.
That's actually just how court works tbh, if you've never seen it. The attorneys basically bully the other side and try to get them to mess up/break
That is just how court is 🤷🏻♀️
Personally, although uncomfortable to watch, it’s what seals the case against Lindsay bc he does such a great job, it leaves zero room to doubt who’s actually responsible. At the end of the day 12 people found Casey Anthony not guilty regardless of all of the evidence against her bc they somehow managed to think their was “reasonable” doubt. Had Jason come across unfavorably who knows what the jury would have done. But the truth is easy to remember, so he did a great job.
She is a monster. Omg how he remained so calm I’ll never know. I don’t think I would have been able to stop myself punching her right between the eyes.
She's an evil witch
'You claimed you left the house at 6:55, when in fact it was 6:54 and 45 seconds! How much more will you distort the truth!' Good lord that attorney had me rolling my eyes into my head. The father kept his composure FAR better than I would have
I don’t agree with abusing women, but watching this bitch, I UNDERSTAND IT.
I loved when she made it seem absurd that he drove off without warming up the car when it was cold. I live in a very cold place and very few people take the time to "warm up" their car in the morning unless they have an automatic start which most people around here do not have that luxury. I would have laughed in her face for that!
@@positivepenny5477 i mean you should let it warm up a little, get the oil and the fuel flowing right, 30 seconds to a minutes is all it needs really, then drive softly for the first few minutes, but most people don’t do that, it’s definitely not weird to not do that lmao
@@positivepenny5477 The car should have been warmed up on the drive over. I mean, I think it would have been.
@@Tattedlady60 exactly it wasn't a cold start first thing in the morning, he had to drive to the day care first
I am a defense attorney and I tutor groups of law students who dream of becoming a defense attorney. For this I often use videos to show them "real life" trials and to have them observe attorneys in courtrooms. This here is a great example of how NOT to behave as a defense attorney. Unfortunately many people think all you need to do to become an attorney is to study the law. No. You also need to study people, study how to treat people, study how people might react to you. Antagonizing everybody in the courtroom might work in fiction movies but never in real life . Kudos to Stephanie for a superb presentation of the case!
She is disgusting and should NOT be allowed in any courtroom.
You’re not by chance in Georgia, are ya? 😂
@@LetsGoArlo No, just on the other side of our great nation, on the West Coast. :)
So when you defense attorneys defend someone that you know is guilty...how do you sleep at night?
The defense attorney grilling Jason about the literal seconds it takes to back out of a driveway has my blood boiling. I have NO idea how he stayed so calm.
I would have a hard time doing yesterday. I would have to be like I don't want to talk to you if youare talk to me like that or something along those lines.
I would’ve been LOSING it.
Right
If you ever feel bad about yourself or feel like you’re dumb, just remember this woman voluntarily told police that she uppercutted a three year old, and didn’t even ask for a lawyer immediately afterward. Unbelievable.
Edit: I’m watching my friends kids while they’re on their honeymoon soon. I was, of course, confused when they didn’t mention the Mortal Kombat uppercut technique to instill excellent discipline when the kids do normal things like whine about taking naps or missing their parents.
Obviously being sarcastic. But seriously, I’ve been wondering all day. How does an adult human person uppercut a three year old? Like, wouldn’t you need to crouch down? What the fuck has to be so wrong with you that you feel the need to strike a child, let alone UPPERCUT a child? I know we can’t expect rational explanations from an irrational person but uppercutting a three year old is just….vexing.
And said it like this was completely acceptable behavior "yes 😃" ...she's such an oblivious sociopath.
AND said she thought she could do it and not get in trouble💀
@@BrianaBudgets exactly! Again, just… unbelievable 😳
What's worse is she claimed she thought it was okay and the father would BACK her for punching his 3 year old 🤦♀️ she's insane
True. Hearing her openly admit to being very physical to a child and she can honestly say she thought it was okay to uppercut a 3 yr old
If she admitted to upper cutting the child imagine what she's not admitting to.
But it wasn't like a HARD uppercut, just a kind of soft uppercut. Y'know, like a baby uppercut. That's something everybody does, right? Little baby uppercuts? All gentle, y'know?
@@ms-abominable I John Cena mine. You know.. like, "tuuuuu tuuu-du duuuuuuuuu tuuuuu tuu-du tduuuuuuuu" and then the flying head grab into a smackdown
As soon as she said she uppercut that baby with a closed fist, I was like "no, no, no". That would not fly with me. The amount that Hannah "fell" is insane. And after all the this woman admitted to, I bet half those bruises aren't from falling at all. I hope she never sees the light of day.
look up false confessions. The upper cut was a suggestion from the investigator
@@thl205 are you defending this sick sick human ? Are you implying shes innocent and falsely confessed ?
I’ve loved this series. Stephanie basically came out and said “Lindsay is in jail, but there are people who still think she’s innocent so let me tell you why she is 100% guilty” lmao
Nailed it. That is exactly what these videos have been.
She admitted to treating this poor tot in most horrendous way!
How on earth anyone can admit to slapping using a closed fist on a little,little girl???
Just so inexcusable,is this person even human???
She does this in every video tho it’s super bias. I like to form my own opinions on things. Although I agree we her it’s just a lil annoying.
Girl she’s allowed to express her own opinions on her own channel. You can still come to your own conclusions. But she supports her opinions with hard fact.
She smiles so often while talking about a dead child that was gravely injured [and later died] in her care. Infuriating to watch her act.
And the obvious lies that even a first year criminology student could spot, like her being “completely innocent,” or “implicitly innocent.” Truly innocent ppl don’t need to say it that way. They just say “ I didn’t do it! I’m innocent!” Then there are the multiple times she nods yes while verbally answering no. I could go on and on. Nothing about this case made me hmm for a second about her guilt.
The patience this man had with that defense attorney is unparalleled. Her line of questioning was exhausting, borderline ridiculous, and offensive to both his intelligence and that of the jury. At least from my perspective, what she did backfired massively because I definitely only felt more compassionate for him, not speculative about his answers.
Same here! All her behavior did was highlight what a good, patient man he is.
Same! He held his composure and answered her questions in a respectful way while she literally screamed at him.
Agreed 100 percent, well said!
Agreed! I just made the following comment under someone else's post about the defense attorney's behavior, but I'll add it here, as well:
One thing I also kept thinking about during the defense attorney's questioning of Jason was how it may have impacted the jury. Not impacting them in a way that would cause them to have a negative opinion of Lindsay, because I know the jury can't hold an attorney's behavior against a defendant, but the impact I personally felt was that it was almost hard to focus on the actual questions and answers because I was so shocked & a bit sidetracked by the spectacle the attorney was making of herself. When the behavior of an attorney overshadows the actual testimony a jury is trying to listen to, that's a huge problem!
And yes and what was the purpose of the question it took 2 or 3 min
I'm not a lawyer, but there's something so bizarre about the line of questioning "You claim that Lindsey contributed to your daughter's death BUT YOU DIDN'T BUY MILK ON THE DATE YOU SAID YOU DID."
Yes,,,and did you take 30 seconds or 40 seconds to PLOW out of your driveway? Mind you, the bitch uppercut your daughter,but which car door was closest to your front door?
It's not bizarre. He lied about going to buy milk the evening before the event. He also lied about Hannah eating cereal on that morning since there were no cereal in the house. On top of that, there was another man at his place on the evening before Hannah collapsed and he didn't tell the detectives about it except a couple of days or hours before his testimony at the trial. There was a suitcase at his house but the detectives never asked whose suitcase it was. So yeah, the whole milk thing is relevant because it has to do with the father lying about his whereabouts and actions. There are doctor's reports that were sent to the lead detective that said that the event that caused Hannah's injuries could have happened within a 24 hour time frame so all this does matter. The problem is that the defense didn't follow up those milk questions with relevant questions that could have given the jury more answers regarding what really happened on that night and evening so it all looks ridiculous when you don't take the whole picture into account.
You should really go watch the whole trial and you'll see all this.
@@huntasoup
His memory was probably a mess because the babysitter he trusted had just killed his daughter. Those things weren’t important enough to remember or lie about.
@@57andstillkicking it could be but he forgot a whole lot about that evening, and remembered just in time for the trial... JMO.
And yes, it's important. LE should have looked into this. They did not. What if the wrong person was sitting in prison for this? Would you be okay with that? Knowing that someone who possibly hurt a child could do it to someone else? I sure am not. And btw, I'm not saying that the father did it. It could've been an accident, or the guest that stayed at his house the day before. I wonder how one can forget that they had a guest over. Trauma or not, this is something that's not that easy to forget.
@@huntasoup
The babysitter admitted physically abusing Hannah, including shaking her. Her actions killed that child.
Jason really is the immovable object on the stand, I have no words to explain how level and calm he was. He truly seems like a good father and good man.
My dad was the same way growing up he was calm laid back person strong loving caring and never yelled at us. hard working generous kind forgiving and it was all unconditional and honest and blunt. My dad was never one to show emotions especially when someone died. I saw my dad cry when my cousins died in drunkin car wreck because he helped raise his niece and nephews and they were like my big brother and sister. That is the man my dad was and when his relatives would die of old age. he cried only at funerals. or my moms divorce. It pains me to see such strong men weak in that moment and I learned the same. but it is in my dads voice one time to me and my sister when I was bullied my dad said he loved me and my sister and hated that we were verbally abused in school and emotionally abused never pyschially abused other students. My dad said he loved us and he said he and my mother made beautiful kids.
I know. Good lord, I hope someone bought him a drink after that day!
His daughter is up above the top comment. It seems like it!
It is crazy that Lindsay and her attorney had such similar condescending demeanours and seemed to think behaving like that would appeal to the jury?!? Screeching at a man who’s child had just been murdered isn’t the smartest move to get people onside. Lindsay truely has to be one of the dumbest people on earth, if she thought answering questions the way she did would get peoples sympathy and understanding. From the manner in which her attorney conducted herself I’m assuming she didn’t know to brief her client before hand and say “don’t act like a know-it-all, and don’t be condescending in your responses” because they had that double act down. I came away thinking they both are horrendous!
Her lawyers acted how Lindsay truly is.
The defense lawyer is Melynda Cook Howard and she has a 1 star rating on numerous websites and has had dozens of complaints to the BAR over paying witnesses and experts to testify and lie to make her client look favorable and I don't doubt it. The reviews on her are horrible, i feel so bad for the ppl who get her court appointed. How shes still licensed is beyond me. Ive never seen a lawyer with more negative reviews who is still practicing.
If I'm not mistaken, she has recently been sworn in to be a judge.
@@xkozmos4290 I went to check that but apparently she was a judge for less than a year before this case happened. She was a judge in 2017 and in 2018 she went back to be an attorney, as it also states on her LinkedIn profile. Unfortunately, because I live in the UK, most of the websites are blocked due to data protection, so I don't know what happened for the 'downgrade'....
I could hardly tolerate watching her arguments. She's so smarmy!
She wasn’t court appointed. Lindsay paid a lot of money for her and the guy attorney.
Not to defend her (because I find her quite annoying myself) but can I see the source for that? My own search for her came up with a 2-ish star review total, but looking at the whopping 5 comments, at least two 1-stars were literally made today (Mar. 25, the day of this posting) so I'm not unconvinced that they didn’t come from people watching this video and nothing else.
As far as any ethics violations, I went back through plenty of news reports and the only criminality I could find with her name mentioned was a violation by one of her campaign opponents when she ran for judge. NOT her specifically.
If you have links, I would love to read them but I would think even a basic search would produce results if her violations were so egregious...
The way that attorny was almost screaming at Jason is so gross. His daughter has just died, that's no way to speak to a grieving father when you have no proof that he did anything wrong.
Stuff like this is why I'm probably going to stop studying law and start studying something else like social work.
This case just shattered my heart. As a child who was abused, that women speaks exactly like my abusers. When they’re confronted with facts, they lie some more. So gross. As a nanny of many years, even if a parent said that I could spank, I would NEVER put hands on someone else’s kids. She is exactly where she belongs.
The fake “im so nice” voice she put on when talking to the lawyers was so gross. It boggles my mind how someone could intentionally hurt a child….I’ll never understand it.
Yes! She is sooo fake. You can see it. And I absolutely agree with the above statement with the physical discipline. I babysat for years when my children were little. For family and friends. And I was told on many occasions that I could discipline their children. I absolutely would never. I didn't physically discipline my children, I sure wasn't going to do it to someone else's. It makes me so so sad to think of what that poor little girl went through.
She’s trying to trip him up but she’s making herself look insane.
Did she get her law degree from a cereal box??
A coupon from Groupon?
Exactly what I thought, an absolute idiot 😂
A Karen. Entitled person lording it over a lower income dad. Should be banned as a group.
Crackerjack box, actually
She was definitely a mean girl in high school
I know the defense attorneys are trying to do their job (everyone deserves representation, of course), but the level of disrespect here is jaw dropping. Especially when questioning a parent who has just lost their child... it's disgusting. I'm surprised they can show that level of unprofessionalism and not be asked to leave the court.
It seems to me that since the police never interrogated him she was trying to do it in the courtroom. The poor man just lost his child and remember - your client is the one on trial, not the father.
I was thinking the samething
Right on the defenders time are not meant to be trying to win they are supposed to make sure there is justice, once a defense attorney knows that the accused is guilty then continues to try and win they should have a cell of their own
I agree, I could not represent anyone that I knew had done something to a child, no matter the ££$$. How do they sleep at night. Working for the devil!
The fact she admitted to shaking and upper cutting, poking and hitting Hannah and thinks it's ok to upper cut or hit a 3 year old she is GUILTY!!! WHO DOES THAT??!!!
Luna Tik: No one who respects the society they live in and is aware of its laws.
A monster
For real! Like she said, I can understand people who spank their kids (not beating them with a belt, just a firm pat on the butt), but there's no reason to be basically beating up a child. She ADMITTED to doing that stuff but the defense still wants to treat the dad like a criminal?!
As hard as this father fought for his daughter and as much as he lived for her, it’s not fathomable (in my mind) that him harming her is even a possibility. The babysitter was bitter, angry, and didn’t have enough of a spine to stand up and SAY that she didn’t want to watch this child. She couldn’t stand up to adults, so she took it out on an innocent helpless child. Sickening.
This. It’s so sad and sick.
My heart is still breaking for her father; that poor man tried so hard to give his daughter a good life after the way it started.
So sad 😢😢
Truly the most heartbreaking case I’ve heard in a while. He went through so much hardship and when things are finally looking up, the person he trusted with childcare turned out to be the one to cause unspeakable tragedy to him. I have a 3 year old daughter and I don’t think I could survive something like this happening.
Me too. I just want to give him a hug !!
I agree that he loved her, however why would he keep bringing her back everyday when she just kept coming home with more bruises? Like they said I’d understand something on the knee’s, hands, elbows, etc… but all over her face an head?? I’m sorry but that part didn’t sit right with me….
@@emilythomas4561 it seems as though he didn't have much of a choice... this was his boss' partner. He needed the job to provide for them both. He couldn't place her in other child care because it's insanely expensive. He couldn't accuse his boss' partner because he'd likely lose his job. I'm also guessing he just didn't believe she'd do the things she was doing because who would want to believe someone could treat a child like that? I'm sure he blames himself and I'm sure he lives with that guilt every. Single. Fucking. Day.
There is a special place in hell for anyone who hurts children, elderly or animals. How that dad kept his composure while that beast was questioning him says exactly the type of man he is. RIP Angel. No one can hurt you now
i lold @ beast
Right?! The way he handled himself was impressive, idk if I would’ve been able to be as respectful as he was lol
He was much nicer than I ever could have been. Annoyed just listening to her. Wonder is she sleeps well at night knowing she treats people like this.
U shouldn't wish ppl to go to hell or u might end up there urself
@@paittenbishop8949 they didn’t wish them to hell. If you’re here to support Lindsey, just say that. 🙂
The way the defense tries to paint a scenario of Jason gunning it out of the driveway in reverse with the baby flying all over the car, is just... wtf 🤦🏻♀️ That defense team was just terrible.
This was the part that gets me too!! The baby sitter lives a couple if minutes down the road and shes trying to make it sound like he sped for a quick minute to her house. Smh this defense attorney ridiculous!
I would have said are you serious. Like bless her heart. I actually felt a little sorry for the defense attorney then. Like wow. A different kind of special.
Then 5 mins later she crucified him for NOT “slamming that thing in reverse” she is a fuc** lunatic! She looks like she needs an insanity plea! I understand being a defense attorney but I’ve never seen such a disrespect! When he changes his story, him going to Walmart, now he actually has a person to verify his alibi to that he didn’t do anything to Hannah! This defense is throwing shit at the wall left and right seeing what she can get visible see the jury responding to!
Having gone to an abusive babysitter when I was a child I can understand why she cried for her dad. I cried every day that my brother and I had to go there. It wasn’t until she beat my little brother so bad that there was no hiding it anymore. I never told my parents of the abuse that happened to me by the son of the babysitter. It would destroy my parents to know what I went through and still suffer from the memories of it. My heart goes out to Hannah and her father. I hope Lindsey is never released.
It is so terrible and heartbreaking to hear what you and your brother had to go through as innocent children. Hoping and praying that you all have, and will continue to find peace and healing in your lives
I’m no lawyer I ain’t even got a bachelors degree yet, but this defense attorney is horrendous. If you chose to have this person represent you, that says a lot about who you are as a person. I have never been so angry listening to a trial as I was listening to this father get questioned. Props to him for keeping up the ma’am’s and keeping composure, I have a headache for him. If you admit to “upper cutting” a three year old, there is no chance for reasonable doubt. Rest In Peace Hannah and I wish the father the best life could offer him after all this ❤️
I cringed so hard every time she talked
This is exactly how I felt. It is sickening what Lindsay did to Hannah. It's tragic that there is people out there that actually try and defend someone who does something like this. My heart goes out to her dad after everything they went through.He was trying his best and then for this to happen I cannot imagine the pain he must feel. Especially with this lawyer making him feel terrible in the most unnecessary ways and he was still giving her immense amounts more respect than she gave him.
I was thinking the same thing. It’s like she got her degree out of a cereal box.
When they were questioning that first physician in pt 1 my blood was boiling! I know their job is to create doubt but let the renowned expert speak, asshole!!
Agree
Oh my gosh just watched part one… couldn’t stop thinking about it so I searched on TH-cam to see if anyone else covered it then I see you posted part two! So satisfying. This case is just horrifying and extremely saddening.
I watched it yesterday and also searched TH-cam for other videos and there is nothing! So happy she posted part 2!
Check out Kimberly Flower’s take on the case she’s the 1st person I saw cover this and I found it very well done
I actually started watching the trial after the first video because I couldn’t stop thinking about it too!
There is a smaller channel called truth & transparency that has covered it too. She knows the family.
I love that Kimberly Whisk is a Stephanie Harlowe listener too.
Two of my favorite TH-camrs ❤️
He talks about his daughter like she's still alive and I watch him trying to fight back tears, my heart breaks for the dad, rip Hannah 🙏 🕊
Every time he spoke of her in the present 💔 that man is strong for not flipping out.
Exactly, yet Lindsey talks about her in the past tense. Guilty
It's heart wrenching! I don't know how he didn't blow up at that attorney! He did a great job! I don't know that I could have held it together!
Also, as a neuro ICU nurse, you did such a great job explaining her injuries. It just goes to show the amount of effort and time you put in to understanding every case. You’re the best!!
So are you🩵 angels like yourself saved my life when I had bacterial meningitis.. thank you 🙏✨
That defense attorney….wild. She comes across rude and unprofessional. She’s totally ineffective. That would have been a total put off for me if I sat on that jury.
She sounds crazy screaming.
yeah, totally agree, I think she was going for like, the "bulldog" type of defense where your level of aggression is supposed to show how much you believe in your client's innocence and you're dropping bombshells left and right that make the jury's mouths fall open... but she just ended up yelling at and degrading a man whose child her client murdered and looking like even she knew Lindsay was guilty which is why she was trying to nitpick literal seconds of a timeline and a gallon of milk 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I can't imagine that at least SOME of the jury didn't feel the same way we all do, it was really a pathetic display and gave me secondhand embarrassment for her
Soon as defence comes across as over aggressive they’ve lost!
Seem desperate to defend the indefensible!!
I don't want to make you feel rushed or like you have to constantly pump out content, but I'm so happy that you put this out so soon after the first part. I couldn't wait to hear more about this case, especially from you!
I haven't even gotten through the whole video yet, I just can't believe how Jason stayed so calm and respectful during that absurd cross examination, along with the doctor from part 1, I would not have been able to do that. Honestly, bullying is the exact way I would describe their tactics, which to me just makes Lindsay seem more guilty.
Agreed. I think bullying shouldn't be allowed in court.
Whoever prepped him did an amazing job. I would've caught a case on that stand.
Absolutely agree. I would have sobbed my heart so many times. That lawyer was just so needlessly cruel. I truly admire Jason’s strength and composure. I wouldn’t be able to disguise my contempt and disgust at some of the questions he was asked.
If I ever had to be cross examined and these were the lawyers doing it, I would not handle it well. I don’t like being yelled at and I hate being cut off when I’m trying to clarify something. Jason did a great job keeping his composure while being questioned like this!
It was absolutely infuriating how many times that man told the doctor to 'answer the question' despite having not asked one, or 'let me finish' and then clearly having nothing else to add so just talking gibberish. I don't know how he thought that was going to go down well with the jury or anyone in the court. The prosecution demonstrated that it is completely possible to cross examine someone aggressively and thoroughly without being rude and disrespectful.
She was very impressive. She kept her composure and didn't allow herself to be bullied and even laughed a little.
Nearly two hours 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 can we get a round of applause for the dedication, hard work and TALENT that this woman has 🤩🙌🏼
I just want to do it right, no matter how long it takes! Just appreciate you all sticking with me through the long ones!
@@StephanieHarlowe I appreciate the long ones, I’m sure most of us would rather you do it right rather than cut things out for times sake.
@@StephanieHarlowe we appreciate all the hard work you put into these! The long videos are the best ones 🙂
@@StephanieHarlowe 💪🏻🙏🏼💯great job Stephanie🥳🥳🥳🥳
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Someone needs to ask this defense attorney if her morning routine is the same every day down to the second. Most people can give you an estimated time and amount of time it takes them to get out of the house every morning, but nobody times themselves down to the precise second. And it's entirely understandable that when a 3 year old is in the hospital with life threatening injuries, the father of that child might be confused to the previous days activities.
totally agree, I think that was her probably knowing that Lindsay was screwed and so she was throwing anything at the wall to see if it would stick. she definitely didn't do her client ANY favors, in fact she probably did the exact opposite
I believe Lindsey is guilty. I agree her relationship stressors contributed to what she did, but it doesn't excuse what she did. I babysat at home for a little bit and it was kind of a thankless job. I only charged 20$ per day for like 9 to 10 hour days. My biggest issue was getting paid I often would get shorted or put off another week. So I became unavailable to babysit. Simple as that. I wouldn't put up with it and I don't feel guilty about it.
I also believe she is guilty, and l think she should have known better than to assume that 'physical punishment' for toddlers was OK.... As a 'after school hours' teachers of young kids & adults, l often teach kids of 4, 5 or 6 years of age for 4 or 5 hour long shifts. Woe would be me if l ever laid a finger on any of them - the law in my country is bery clear about that. I'm also expected to provide instant and convincing explanations to parents if a child falls and hurts itsself whilst 'on my watch'. There is no way you could get away with presenting a badly bruised child to parents without some reasonable explanation, and we also usually require witnesses around us at all times....(other staff. the school receptionist, janitor etc..). My country is Spain, Europe.
I had 4 kids of my own and watched a toddler and a baby too and I charged 20$ per day too..because both were single moms who were waitresses at the Olive garden. They didn't have much money and neither did I...so I figured it would benefit everyone. I am more cautious with other people's children than my own even.
As you shouldn't. I am currently a live in nanny who makes nothing and while it sucks and I am extremely stressed (I have 4 more months before I have the ability to leave this state and the mom will have to figure it out on her own) never has it crossed my mind to take it out on the kid ... Like who even thinks that's ok? But you are 1000% right it's a thankless job and it's hard to put so much energy into the children and teach them good stuff potty train em and all and still be made to feel like you don't get a say in what they're doing when the parent is around. It ends up causing more problems cause the kid becomes confused as to boundaries and right and wrong.... Tis exhausting
seeing the dad testify breaks my heart. he seems like he was a wonderful dad. as someone who lost their father i almost feel jealous. Jason seems like an amazing father and i’m so furious that he had to go through this. as a fellow Hannah i’m disgusted that this happened. he is so brave and i hope he’s okay as of today. :(
The milk thing isn’t weird to me. I opened my cabinet up today, fully expecting to see an unopened bottle of vegetable oil for baking.
To my surprise I didn’t have it. It turns out I thought about getting it so often, I actually thought I had it. The mind is a weird thing sometimes.
I kept thinking “maybe he left it in the car”. Done that once or twice myself
same this has happened to me several times
Plus add in the fact that his daughter is in the hospital fighting for her life. Yea I wouldn't remember where the fuck I went either.
Also all I could think was what if they bought a small thing of milk and drank it all...like not everyone buys it by the gallon. Plus he said they has cereal for breakfast. Obviously that's not what happened, but like the milk not being there just didn't raise red flags at all for me.
Also if Jason is constantly on the go in my mind it would be easy to get what he did mixed up I do ecspecially when I’m non stop on the go.
Exactly!!! I don’t remember what I did yesterday ! And I always think I went to get something because every day I say I have to stop and get it and don’t end up doing it because I just want to get home after work
My blood is boiling everytime her attorneys open their mouths. The rude, hateful, demeaning manner in which they do their questioning is repulsive. I have to periodically stop listening and then come back to it because I'm getting so mad. 🤦 I don't know how Jason kept his composure.
Jason did amazing. He wasn't having any of her bs.
Honestly, I skipped through some of it because the questions were sooo minute and irrelevant anyway and her tone was just so goddamn insufferable! Jesus. I wish it were possible for like, the judge to tell her to change her fucking tone when speaking to the father of the VICTIM
I wonder if the prosecutor warned him about the defence lawyers, especially the woman, and counselled him not to lose his shit with them because it would be really easy to do.
It speaks volumes to his character cuz I would of told her to go choke on the devils d!@% and probably ended up in contempt of court! This lady is just disgusting , literally just making up scenarios🤬You’d have to think the jury was made up of imbeciles to think they would believe Hannah fell into the backseat and that caused her death! No, not the admitted abuse! Falling in the backseat, wtf?!
This poor dad. Working so hard, doing everything he can to take care of his little girl, finally finding someone who seemed trustworthy to take care of her. The convenience of living so close to the babysitter and the babysitter giving him a little bit of a financial break. He probably felt that he was finally getting it all together. AND THEN...this!!! I can't imagine how he must feel if he listened to the detectives interview with this woman and what she did to Hannah. Hopefully he's getting some professional help, because this is a nightmare.
But the babysitter didn't want to live that close to them because she needed a break. It's not exactly fair to expect a stranger to take care of your child for 12 hours a day for 30 dollars... And he couldn't even pay that much on time...
True.
@@AngelDeed If the killer thought it was unfair then she should have talked to the adult responsible for the child. A decent human being won't shake and hit a 3 year old in the head. She had one option. She could quit. But she chose to kill a baby.
@@AngelDeed Lindsey is an adult, capable of saying no when she doesn't want to do something. She agreed to watch poor Hannah and she was the one who set the rate. If it was that much of a problem she should have said she couldn't do it any longer. Or she could have renegotiated their arrangement. But obviously it wasn't that much of an issue...she said she would allow him to come home and work on a car he had some days when he got home, and she would agree to keep Hannah longer so that he could do that. If keeping the child was such an issue for her, why would she agree to that?
I think she enjoyed having that child as her personal punching bag. The abuse had been going on over a period of time. I think Lindsey was happy to have something to take all of her resentment and frustration out on.
@@AngelDeed But you don't take it out on the child.
I'm concerned that no one in the court stood up for the dad. Going through a trial is retraumatizing already and then they allow him to be attacked like that?
Unbelievable.
I agree - I know that it is allowed for things to get heated and argumentative during cross examination but I really think the judge should have stepped in here - it was appalling how that woman spoke to poor Jason and I felt like she was just making an absolute mockery of the court. She was like a defiant teenager arguing with her parents about something she knows is wrong. Imagine having so little defense that you have to try and catch a grieving father out by accusing him of lying about how many seconds it took to walk to his car? Some of the stuff she said, like when she was incredulous that he just started his engine and drove away on a cold day without letting it 'warm up' was unbelievable 😅 maybe it happens to some people but the way she was acting like it's an absolute universal fact that you should let your car 'warm up' before 'chucking it into reverse' is ludicrous. And she genuinely sounded like she believed she was making perfect sense! Delusional 😂
I actually think that's its good that they didn't, the more that lawyer spoke the more she showed her hand and the straws she was grasping. That said I was yelling at my phone telling her to just shut up and let the man answer.
@@stellapratt9659this is exactly right. In court the best thing you can do is stay calm and collected. I was on a two week trial once and the defendant would get angry and emotional and had a hard time being quiet when other people were testifying or the lawyers were making statements or presenting evidence. It made him look guilty as hell and you could tell it was a constant uphill battle for his lawyer (who, to his credit, never gave up despite how difficult and abusive his client was towards him).
“it’s hard to be accurate when you’re being condescending” that’s for sure. i cannot STAND these defense attorneys. i mean wow what disrespectful assholes. they are clinging to absolutely anything they can at this point. she is treating Jason like he is stupid.. which is appalling to me to talk to a man who just lost his daughter like that.
Props to Jason for keeping his cool and being respectful while being questioned. I honestly don’t think I would have been able to do the same.
This poor man, he didn’t deserve this treatment.
Where was his lawyer?! Should’ve objected a lot!!!
No he didn't and my temper would have had me in contempt!!
I can’t even imagine how emotionally distressing this would of been , he got through it well
Proof he doesn't have a quick temper. The lawyer sure does, but he doesn't.
Now knowing that her husband is a predator makes it even more chilling that he was so quick to offer Jason the house next door and why Lindsey was immediately apprehensive🧐Also probably why TJ just offered her babysitting services without even asking her first! My husband would never just offer me up to babysit without asking me first and I had found that really strange! It definitely sheds some light on why TJ was so willing to accommodate a man he didn’t even know!I just keep thinking how Jason has to be tormented by the fact that he thought life was finally falling into place for him and it was the means to the end of his little girls life 😔My heart goes out to him! Thank God Hannah insisted on double kisses… not everyone is so fortunate to get those few extra kisses before losing someone!
Amen
Eww. Good point. So chilling and disturbing.
And at such a low price!
@@100Remedios RIGHT!!!!
Honestly couldn’t feel worse for Jason!! Poor Hannah
In response specifically to Hannah confirming the fall on the gravel/steps, one day when I was about 3 I started crying and refusing to walk. When my mother noticed I had a swollen knee, I told her over and over repeatedly with ABSOLUTE certainty that I had "fallen in the backyard and needed to go to the doctor." My mother took me to the hospital that day and I was diagnosed with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. I had never taken a fall. Nobody told me I fell. My mother and grandmother noticed the swelling and I assumed that i had because in my mind, at 3 years old, my knee was hurt and falling is how you hurt your knee.
It would be EXTREMELY easy for Lindsay to look at the bruise and say "you must've gotten that when you fell on the steps" or even for Hannah to decide on her own that falling on the steps was an easy way to get a bruise. I know it's their job to defend her but that's like the stupidest argument i've ever heard especially considering the medical professionals testimonies.
When I was kindergartener I was convinced my ear infections were caused by a bee flying into my ear.
Lindsay deserves what she will get in jail. They don't like pedophiles or child abusers. There are people in there who are never getting out and would love to put Lindsay outta her misery
@@jordanwiser4192 i actually read that its actually more like that in mens prisons. Womens prisons basically isolate the person & avoid them like the plague. Which in its own sense, its not great for them. But nowhere near a mens prison with those offenders.
In my opinion, the fact that Lindsay admits to having Hannah 12 hours a day leaves NO TIME for her dad to give her all those bruises
I was thinking the same thing. He would basically just put Hannah to bed and wake her up again to bring her to Lindsay. How mad could he have gotten in a few hours a day?
Not to mention as a single father, he was doing the best he could. I don't think he would have slept in the car so that Hannah could sleep in the house if he was abusive to the point that he could kill her.
@@StephanieHarlowe Also that explains why he would see nothing, but makes her seeing nothing fishy. Thank you Stephanie for the voice you give to victims, you give each one their dignity and give them so much love. Look after yourself not easy spending so much time around so much pain and evil.
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People don’t seem to understand that an unlikable attorney can make a jury vote guilty, even if subconsciously.
I can testify to this ( notice the pun? Lol) I was on a jury and I couldn't stand the prosecutor; he was a snot nose pompous ass. We found the defended guilty of 1 charge but not guilty on the rest.
This defense team definitely didn't help the defendant at all. They were terrible.
@Lisa Stalnaker I was wondering why his lawyers weren’t saying anything. I would’ve been objecting left and right. She don’t make any sense. I would’ve lost my absolute sht. That was ridiculous. And it rubs off on there client. They are representing the client, there behavior rubs off and represents the client. They made me dislike her very much.
The attorney being a bitch and Lindsey having so much of an attitude on the stand really made me think she was guilty without any of the evidence.
Does anyone else listen to these stories and think about how screwed they’d be if someone they know was murdered because they can’t remember most of the stuff they did beyond a day ago or when anything happened? Or is that just me? I’ll be telling a friend a story and it’s like “so yesterday…or maybe it was the day before…no wait…anyway some time recently”
😆 you're not the only 1. I'd be so screwed. ESPECIALLY if it were up to me to work w a sketch artist to made a rendition of a suspect. "Um...he had 2 eyes....a nose?"
The best I could be is a character witness.
I have often thought I should start keeping a diary and all my receipts! If someone wanted to frame me I’d be like “well. Your memory is probably better than mine.” Then I’d have to learn to like orange and showering with company.😞
A day ago? I struggle with 20 min sometimes
Yes! while listening mid-day I tried to go back through my morning and got fatigued and gave up. I’d look so guilty
“Like a mother.” She had her for 48 hours per week maximum including any nap time, and little Hannah felt she wasn’t the same as a parent. Hannah cried after her dad had to leave for work for apparently enough days (probably every day based on her age and just adoring her dad as many little kids do) to agitate a stressed woman into “slapping her upside the head.” Kids cry when their parents drop them off at school even after they’ve made friends and gotten to like their teachers. That says so much about how Hannah felt that that wasn’t family or part of her home. ALSO, the girl lost consciousness under Lindsey’s care. I think the cops were aware of that at the point of interviewing Lindsey. It seems perfectly reasonable that the person the child was with when they were harmed, comatose, etc. would be interviewed immediately before they had too much time to build a story.
Hannah probably knew within her little, innocent soul, that something terrible was in that house. My heart breaks at the thought of her wanting and needing her Daddy to help her. 😥
Stephanie could make a 3 hour video on literally anything and I’d be glued to my screen for 3 hours!! & I can’t even sit thru a movie! All the research she does on each case and the passion she has for every single victim she talks about is what makes her differ from most true crime channels on TH-cam (most not all other channels, there’s others that I love to watch that put in the work and have the passion as well) I haven’t watched anything on this case or trial yet bc I’ve been waiting to watch hers!
I absolutely 100% with you I 💘 Stephanie she's amazing
Lol my husband's like "you can't stay awake for a 90 minute movie, but you'll watch a 5 hour long YT video" 🤣
@@CaseyMarie11-11 I'm the same way especially if it's a really interesting YT video
@@CaseyMarie11-11 omg I'm exactly the same 😂😂😂 I still haven't watched lord of the rings cause I just can't concentrate for those hours but I watch shit on youtube 8 hours straight and be fine 😂
“There’s a way to get this information that you need, without being a bitch” Lmao, this is why I love Stephanie
The way the defense attorney presents these "gotcha" questions makes me feel like she's going for that scene in Legally Blonde where the daughter breaks down and confesses everything. Like what does she think is going to happen? She's the worst.
She's trying to go for the old Colombo gotcha moment, except this is real life & she definitely ain't no Colombo
@Lisa Stalnaker she reallyyy thought she did something with that one.
What angers me most about this is that she had time to realise that taking out her frustration on an innocent child was wrong. This abuse happened on several occasions, on different days. It got bad enough that she had to panic and research how to make bruises go away, she had to lie to her dad, she had to realise what she was doing was wrong. How was that not a wake up call ? Even if she was angry, frustrated, unhappy, how is that not the moment where you realise you’re doing something really, really wrong ? How could she go ahead and abuse poor Hannah again later ?
I think that attorney was really trying to have a “Legally Blonde” moment with the “IS THAT WHEN SHE FELL IN THE BACKSEAT AND HIT HER HEAD?!”
First thing that came to my head too!!
Same thing I thought. Despicable
I've never in my life, with both true crime and fictional crime, heard a lawyer speak so condescendingly.
She's pure evil, how some people still believe she's innocent is mind blowing, you don't falsely confess in that short amount of time!! No way especially the way she did, she was no way under insane pressure..she's guilty as charged and she's exactly where she belongs...
I have a feeling that things were even worse than she was willing to admit.
Yes, I agree. She wasn't forced or coerced by the detectives into making a false confession. They weren't grilling her over and over and putting words into her mouth. If you want to hear someone being coerced into making a false confession, listen to the interrogation of Jesse Miskelly who was a minor who had a low IQ and was in the interrogation room for 12 hours, alone without either his parents or an attorney, being grilled by the detectives. The way they got him to change up what he had originally told them to match what they wanted him to say was so obvious that I cannot believe that his "confession" was even allowed to be used!
Not only would it be hard to break someone in such a short period of time, but also who the hell FALSELY confesses to BEATING A LITTLE GIRL?! That would be the furthest thing from my mind to "admit" no matter how much duress I was under.. Beating a defenseless child?! It's horrific 😞
Stephanie, you need to do a third episode. A follow up now that Tjs case has settled, and now that Lindsay has done her first jail house interview claiming she’s innocent.
Hey Daisy, may I ask you something: 'settled'the case, could that also be a false accusation? Just watched the whole trial of Lindsay, and was just wondering. No information to be found on TJ. Was media too quick and maybe false? Seems to me, something like that cannot be settled?
@@belleblaas3843 he plead down to an assault charge and ended up getting a couple years of probation for it. There has been rumors that it was a false accusation. But one may never really know the truth. The media didn’t report on it again because it was nothing exciting I guess. I saw that he plead down in his public case file.
@@Sortedsavvy Thanks. Yes, no information can be found. I watched/listened to the whole trial this weekend. Knew about Lindsay's police interviews, what made her guilty. And also her being on the stand, and she messed up day 7. part 3 at the end.
But also, originally Hannah was a heroin baby. 3 months with birth in hospital. With 9 months, her mother tested hepitites C, and Hannah was never tested for it. Those kids need extra patience, extra need, extra care.
So sad what happened. I do think, Lindsay lost her temper. Without all the other bruises on that tiny little body, hospital wouldn't have thought: child abuse. It still can be tunnel vision. And because Linsay admitted in police interviews, how she treated Hannag, her lies, her different stories, she was guilty. But police also should have investigated daddy's phone. Police never did that anymore, further investigation, because Lindsay admitted. How she had treated/ disciplinned Hannah.
Hands down without a doubt THE best true crime creator on TH-cam. NO other person does the amount of research like Stephanie. The 3/4/5 parters with Derrick, the 2hr videos… outstanding. No gimmicks, no insensitivity, no 6 ads throughout. Deserves way more subs!
100% spot on!
Absolutely agree!
Agree
I was being SA'd by my biological father from the ages of 2-8. My earliest memory is my sperm donor coaching me on bruises trauma. I on more then one occasion was asked and I lied every time. I was 8 before I told the truth. Getting kids to lie for you isn't hard.
I'm sorry that you had to go through that 😔
I hope you got help, Brittanie🌷
I'm proud of you for openly sharing your experiences, and I am so sorry this happened.
I am so sorry you had that horrible thing happen to you especially from the person who was supposed to give their life protecting you. I'm sending healing thoughts and prayers to you, and may he burn in hell!
my abuser also coached me to lie. he once told me to tell my mom my stuffy nose and red eyes were just from allergies and not from crying because he had hit me. she was going to school and had a test that evening, so he "didn't want me to upset her" and "make her fail"
i understand what the defense is saying about how jason wasn’t looked at enough…but given the specific type of injury hannah acquired happened IMMEDIATELY, once jason was confirmed NOT IN THE HOUSE, this seems to be a non-issue???
She did it. Overwhelmed, frustrated with her life, her “marriage” and her finances and she took it out on Hannah and probably her kids as well.
Man, I was a nanny for about 16 years and deeply didn't want to believe she did this but the medical evidence alone is so strong, and coupled with her confession? She's exactly where she belongs.
I was giving her the benefit of the doubt until I heard the medical professionals in court.
The most telling thing of all for me was her demeanor when being questioned. If a three year old child that I cared for collapsed and died while i was caring for her (even if she wasn’t with me) I’d be inconsolable, hysterically crying etc. she’s is so nonchalant it makes me want to shake HER! She is where she deserves for what she did to that child and I hope the other inmates treat her accordingly!!
i thought this too! she acted like nothing traumatic had happened.. WAY too nonchalant for the gravity of the situation
I had the same thought. I know people grieve differently, but I don't know if I've ever seen someone so nonchalant while describing a situation where a 3 year old died.
I agree. In my opinion, behavior like this just makes it seem like she's more concerned with not getting in trouble than anything else, and she kinda seems annoyed that she's there...
Same; this is tragic, but my mother in law had a friend who ran an at home daycare for decades. A little boy in her care drowned in her pool (it was locked). I don’t know details, but he went missing and they found him in the pool. The family did not place blame on her at all, but she shut down her home daycare and hasn’t been the same since. We felt so bad for her and the little boys family, it was a horrible situation. But yeah, she was inconsolable and became a shut in.
Yes, the way she smiles and laughs at times, like when asked about her wedding. Especially in part one when she is talking to the cops and is all "super helpful" and smile-y, acting things out, while a child that was IN HER CARE is unresponsive in the hospital. It's like she has a programmed set of responses about how she should act, but they are not how any sane person WOULD act.
Honestly, the discrepancy in Jason's story could just be due to the extreme amount of distress. The police should've done their due diligence, but ultimately I think the right person is in prison.
Thank you for telling Hannah's story. What a beautiful, smart and bright little girl.
I can NOT with that attorney screaming like that. That man stayed way calmer than I ever could. 😵💫
I can definitely relate to Jason mixing up whether he had gone to the store or what he had been doing. I know it might have sounded fishy, but I often find myself doing a similar thing. When you work a Monday through Friday you’r super tired and every thing gets mixed up. If I need gas sometimes I swear I got it yesterday. When it was in fact last week. All your days run together. I don’t even have a child and can only imagine the stress that would add to my situation of never ending days that feel like one long day.
I agree.. I do this almost daily and I’m not under a lot of stress like I would imagine he would be.
Same!!! And unless the little girl was poisoned with some milk, I don't see how it's relevant. Especially after the doctors had testified.
Thank you! I used to work 12 hr shifts ..like 5pm to 5 am and would mix days up and would be accused of lying
@@PlAiNJaNe521 BC her lawyers want to throw in reasonable doubt. Mfers. That man Jason did the best he could, its heartbreaking.
100%!!!! Working ft and parenting makes everything run together! I too have thought I did something one day but it was actually a different one.. I didn't find that suspicious at all.. If anyone did they dont have kids.. In my opinion
I formerly worked with children in foster care, during my work I uncovered two houses where children were being abused in care, in both houses the female was physically abusive, the male sexually grooming/abusing… while I can’t go into details I can say that the degree of abuse they used showed that there was a pattern of setting the child up to seek comfort from the male perpetrator.. however these same women would often have times where they would be alone with the child and treat them with absolute malice I can honestly say it appeared they were “jealous” of the child and the interest their partner took in them , yet seen this as the fault of the child not the fault of the perpetrator.
I truly believe that Lindsey is guilty of the death of Hannah, that little girl was absolutely her punching bag and there should never be parole for that crime. My thoughts are with Hannah, Jason and all who loved her.
Thank you for sharing your professional knowledge as a very X social worker I too have dealt with case like this. A really horrible situation to deal with due to the huge breach of trust.
@candybarr here in the Uk the levels of corruption are indeed high and they ensure that the whistle blowers are gone pretty quick …The family court remains secretive here despite attempts to have it made more open
As a former foster kid, I don't have children because I don't believe anyone is safe. It's not just physical and sexual abuse, but some people really enjoy the emotional side of abuse or withhold food and then call it a trauma response from previous abuse - as if they're not responsible for you hiding food or whatever. People are manipulative and scary, I prefer animals 100% of the time, all day.
Lindsey's "husband" was arrested for molesting a child under 10 years old, I googled Lindsey's case and a news story of his arrest popped up. He was released on bond and I can't find anything else about what happened
women like that are beyond repulsive and deserve to be locked up for the rest of their lives, or worse. 🤢
The charges brought against TJ are significant to me. There have been cases where men are sexually abusing children and their partners grow resentful of the attention that the child is getting from their significant other while they, themselves, feel neglected. That resentment can turn into abuse and I think that that’s a real possibility in this case.
Oh man. That would make this so much worse.
That would also make sense why she said she was protecting others
Yes yes and yes !!!!!!!!
Had Hannah been being sexually abused by TJ, don't u think it would have been found during her autopsy? An autopsy isn't just performed where it's believed to have been the cause of death. The Med Examiner will look at all parts of the body, not just the head as in where this childs injuries were sustained. Also, because of the multiple bruises found on Hannah's body, one in particular being the buttock cheek, they would have examined her for sexual abuse to rule that either in or out. I'm glad that wasn't the case, I say that with certainty as it wasn't brought up in Lindsey's trial as a factor and I'm pretty certain her lawyer would have latched onto quickly to make the father look like a predator. Jason handled himself worthy of his dedication and love for Hannah, he had nothing to hide!! Rest in Peace sweet girl, one day, u and daddy will be together again!!
@@cherylgudde580 unfortunately sexual abuse takes many forms, some of which leave little to no physical evidence. I agree that it wasn’t brought up in the trial because there was most likely no solid evidence, but that also doesn’t rule it out as a possibility. It’s also possible that Lindsay was aware of TJ’s attraction to minors, specifically Hannah, and that was all it took to fuel that resentment towards her
Listening to this, the dad forgetting what he was doing the night before this happened to his child, I can totally get it. If I were him and that was my daughter or son I wouldn’t be able to tell you what day it was. His child was dying, I don’t think any parent would know what to say or how to act. He lost his baby girl, she went through hell before she died. I hope he finds peace and so does his family. The babysitter seriously needs to rot for this.
“Never abused her OWN children”
Oh ,okay 👌🏼 cool just other people’s children
Makes you wonder if 'KK' s parents found bruises and after this thought shit we were lucky it wasnt put kid
Exactly. Makes me sick. She was definitely taking her frustrations out on this poor baby. I'm glad sje wasn't abusing her own children but sje shouldn't have been taking other children into her home if she couldn't handle a child crying because sje missed her dad.. maybe Hannah wouldn't have cried for her dad so much if she wasn't being abused in this b**ches care all day.
Not only that but her husband's an alcoholic and most alcoholics are abusive and obviously abusive to his so called wife Lindsey. Not only that but he's also a pedophile and probably qas abusing the children so Lindsey didn't want that out so shook her so it wouldn't eventually come out.
She 100 percent did. Maybe no one noticed or not as recently but she obviously felt comfortable doing those acts. Just never as hard with her own.
Immense respect for Hannah’s dad and his composure. The prosecution as well. Very well spoken and respectful in contrast to that screechy defense attorney. My goodness!! Her voice and attitude made me want to bang my head against the wall🤦🏼♀️
Yes the defense attorney was like Nurse Ratchet
I absolutely agree with you! Her voice and the words she said made me so angry!! She's so disconnected..she's trash. I pray she never gets out of prison!!
My son is autistic and nonverbal and I had this playing on the tv. When that woman talks he puts his hands on his ears and leaves the room for about 4 seconds
@@nonyabuiz3605 sounds like you have a very smart little boy♥️
@@nonyabuiz3605 that's crazy bc my autistic, semi verbal, 8 y/o came over to look at my phone,and see what the lady was screaming about and then told me "off please" and left the room 🤨🙄😳😁
This woman oozes passive aggression. The score keeping, denial of anger, being resentful yet unable to say when she’s upset or angry and physical abuse.
My experience is a passive aggressive person is a volatile person. All the resentments build up until the rage cannot be contained. I have been on the receiving end of a passive aggressive rage many times. It was always brutal.
Yes! It's unfortunately pretty common in women, especially in the Midwest where most people have religious beliefs about submitting to men and being solely responsible for the children and home.
@Someone Yep. They're sadly the people that these chronic passive aggressive types end up exploding on. 💔
Keeping score of what
@@rosemarybowser5543 she kept track of every extra thing she did for Hannah, and everything her father didn’t do (like bathe and bring lunches) in a list.
I am a new subscriber based on recommendation from my daughter who follows you. After watching both parts of this case, I understand why my daughter did. I was the Director of a Child Welfare agency for more than 25 years and have a Masters degree in Psychology. Sadly, I am very familiar with the issues outlined in this case. It is complicated and heart breaking. In my opinion you are an excellent reporter of details. I always have questions but you covered this so comprehensively, I was amazed! I know I will be a regular subscriber!
My first year working with kids was in a daycare setting, and I was witness to some truly upsetting and awful abuse that resulted in children being removed from parents custody. Since then I worked with kids for 12 years until my daughter was born. Doing these jobs and seeing the absolute worst case scenario for kids.. it changes you. As a person and as a parent.
Stephanie: This is going to be a long video, so run to the bathroom, grab a snack, whatever it is that you need to be ready to sit here with me for an hour and a half or more.
Me: **Puts phone on kitchen bench, prepares dinner.** **Puts phone on washing machine, throws in laundry.** 😂😂😂
Stephanie travels with me too 🤣
Cooking, cleaning, working. I saw part 2 was up late last night and listened to this in the shower. My mom works in my home as a nurse, she said if I need to find Brandi just follow the sound of " the TH-cam lady" lol
phone in the bathroom, bleach/dye hair
Me too lol. I just hate when I have to run water and I cant hear the content as well. 🤣
@@jennydoud9886 I have speakers in my bathroom. I cannot shower without music or something playing. 🙃
The prosecuting attorney did such a great job! She was very well spoken and thorough while totally ripping apart Dr. Spitz’s testimony. Amazing how you can be effective without screaming at a grieving father and treating the jury like they’re stupid. Biggest eye roll when she brought out that “not guilty” sign. 🙄
Agree 💯💕🙏🏼RIP Hanna.
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the fact that the lawyer is grilling jason about the 30 seconds it takes him to walk to his car and which specific seat he put her in is insane. if I were in his position I legitimately could not have kept my composure id have to leave
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His lawyers must've worked well to coach him into staying calm. I know I wouldn't have been able to keep my cool in his position.
I think the point is to get him to react in order to show the jury that he's got a temper and could've been the one abusing Hannah.
@@FrenkTheJoy from the comment his eldest daughter left on this video it seems his composure came without coaching. she said he never once laid a hand on her or her siblings and didnt even like to raise his voice with them. mad respect for jason
It Hannah was being sexually abused by TJ, Lindsey could very well have been jealous..allegedly…don’t come for me.
I have so much respect for your Dad who handled himself in a dignified and respectful manner while being "cross examined" by that whining, dramatic nit-picking drama queen of a defence attorney. A good dad doing his best under very difficult circumstances. My thoughts are with you and your family and lm not wasting a moment of my time thinking about that murderous vicious babysitter Lindsay Partin
ONE HOUR AND FIFTY MINUTES!?!?!?! WE MUST BOW TO THE QUEEEEEEN! 😍😍😍 you're literally the best💜
Yesssss! She spends so much time and does so much research on literally EVERY case ❤️ Not many creators can even make a 2 hour video,much less one that people actually want to watch & this is only half of the case! Her dedication to these cases is definitely appreciated 💙
Awwww thank you!!
She really is!!!♥️
So excited to watch this morning I just got my coffee made 🤩 thank you Stephanie for all the work you put into all of your videos!
Her detail and research is mind boggling. Love this!
It makes me mad that poor grieving father had to be treated that way.
Wow! This was... a LOT!
Stephanie, seriously, thank you so much for putting so much into your work.
And then sharing this with us so clear and thorough.
I can only image how many hours you put in to research alone! Then writing/script, then recording, then editing...
I'm blown away by all the wrinkles this case had in it. When I first heard of this case, the trial had already passed but I had so many questions and I couldn't find much on TH-cam (and I didn't have time to actually read anything). You answered all of my questions and SO MUCH MORE!
RIP HANNAH!
Thanks!
Welcome! Thank you so much!
I was abused by my home daycare provider and their son when I was 4-5 years old. I was so scared of being in trouble with my parents for what the daycare people did, I never told them what happened. Not til I was 14. At 3, I believe Hannah wouldn't have told her dad bc 1, she was scared of her and 2, she thought she "deserved" it bc it was coming from the person who "took care of her" and told her that "she loved her". That poor baby girl. My heart breaks for her 💔
I’m sorry that happened to you!!
People are so sick. I'm sorry you went through that. Horrible you remember.
Yes, many children never tell because they think they deserve it since it is someone that is supposed to care for them doing it. I was a teen before I realized being beaten for the littlest things weren't normal in a home.
I’m so very sorry you went through that. My son was abused by his caregiver for 9 months. He was 4 years old was abused by his pre-k teacher all year and he would always say he fell on the playground or something when we asked about bruises. The one thing we missed were his shins. On the last day of school we asked him if he was excited that he graduated and he told us “I’m happy I don’t have to see Mrs. Tanya again.” We asked about that because she was the director and seemed like she adored the kids. He told us she would hit and pinch him when he didn’t want to take a nap. He said she used her “sharp fingers”. We pulled over and I immediately checked his body. Sure enough, little crescent shaped pinch marks all down his shins. I was so furious. I wanted to kill her, but thankfully my husband calmed me down and we were able to get her shit down through the legal system.
Of all the cases you have talked about, even CASEY ANTHONY, somehow this woman made me madder. The fact that she didn’t even lie to the cops. She ADMITTED what happened, ADMITTED to using an UPPERCUT ON A TODDLER, and then looked everyone in the eye at court and tried to lie about it. She sat there as that child’s father was treated like garbage by her attorney, and looked BORED? I can’t even. I actually got upset and turned it off a few times and took a breather. I was pissed off all night last week with part one. My hubby laughed at me and ran me a bubble bath with my favorite bath bomb. Apparently I needed to “gather my thoughts”. 🤣
Anywho, I love all of your videos! Crime Weekly has become my new favorite podcast and I’ve almost watched all of the videos on TH-cam. Then I plan to listen to the older ones. Thank you for doing what you do. You respect the victims, remain objective (as much as possible), do so many hours of research, and tell the truth even if it isn’t as dramatic as what sells papers. You are the best true crime TH-camr by far! Thank Youuu!
I had to take breaks too. I’m completely disgusted. 15 years isn’t enough in my opinion..
I had to take breaks in the first one, Ive just started this one but I know I’ll need breaks again.
This slimy git is SMILING in court. As if an innocent, sweet little girl's life wasn't lost over her actions. She doesn't deserve another second of attention. I hope this little angel is resting in heaven, my thoughts are with her poor father and family.
Love the way you handled this case Stephanie! 💛
The father reaction in court was very appropriate in my mind. I am a Neonatologist/Pediatrition, in talking to parents about their child. When the condition is very bad, it is not unusual to have to repeat the information several times, and they continue to ask the same questions. They’re not in a good frame of mind and forgetting whether they got milk or not, it’s not unusual. Sometimes they even forget their names. The stress of I seeing one’s child on a ventilator, it’s too hard to explain unless one have been in that position.
One of my biggest fears, when I started working after my daughter was born, was baby sitter abuse. She was 1 and wouldn't be able to tell me what was happening. Thank God, I found an amazing daycare lady.
It can be awful from the other side too unfortunately. Lindsay trying to turn it around and blame Hannah's dad reminded me of something that happened with my mom when I was little. Back in the 90s when I was a kid, my mom used to babysit full time. She was babysitting kids/toddlers the same age as me because she was a single mother who wanted to spend time with me but needed to work and it was a great way to socialize me since I was an only child too. She had this one little girl who she started babysitting, and she started noticing bruises on her. She asked every time she saw one and the parents would explain it away, but she kept getting more and more suspicious. One day, she noticed something particularly concerning when she was changing the girls diaper (you can imagine what kind of abuse she was thinking at that point), so she immediately called the police, who called CPS. The parents tried saying that they had no idea what had happened and that surely it must've been the babysitter, my mom, the one person who was trying to help that poor girl. She never found out what happened with the girl though, they just stopped bringing her and she was never asked to testify in court or anything. The parents tried to bad-mouth her to other parents but nobody believed them and eventually they moved out of the area. She always says she still wonders what ever happened to that little girl though, she only babysat her a few times but it was clear that she was the only one on her side, trying to keep her safe from whoever was hurting her. It's awful too to think that she reported that and there was never any follow up, which means there was never any punishment.
It's just always so frustrating when people hurt the innocent and people just fucking suck so much sometimes -_-
Told my partner he can be a work from home dad I trust no one ☝️
Couldn't agree more. I'd put a hidden spy cam on my kid
I think him forgetting that he didn’t go to pick up Milk isn’t unusual. He works 12 hours a day, is a single dad and yeah. My husband is the same way and mixes up days all the time. I think the fact that he was upfront when he realized that he didn’t go to get milk was a little telling as well. I think that even if the detectives did investigate him more that he still would have been cleared.
My husband works closer to 6 hours a day and he still gets his stuff mixed up on a daily basis! I didn’t put too much thought into the mixup.
I think we all forget that he three daughters so yeah that seems totally understandable. I usually don't even remember what I had for dinner the night before lol
Part of my ADHD is time blindness. Hours, days, and weeks all blur together. I'd need to go through notes to see what I did on certain days.
I’ve got adhd and it messes up my conceptualization of time super bad!! I’m horrible at remembering what day it is, what I did yesterday, how long ago things were, how far away things are, differentiating between what I did two days ago to three days ago, you get the gist. Definitely not a suspicious thing at all. Also how often do people consciously remember their days in great detail like this as if they’re going to put on the stand??? I sure don’t!! A regular day is just a regular ass day. Expecting people to suddenly have picture perfect memories is the most frustrating thing to see in trials because it’s just not realistic.
This story was so devastating.
In part one, when you mentioned how she kept wanting kisses from her daddy- on the day of her murder. Hearing that broke me to my core.
I know, that poor man. My heart breaks for him I cannot imagine how he must feel 😢
My god same!! That poor baby angel this one was difficult to listen to let alone have it be a child's life pure evil.
Me too. I am a grandma. And my biggest weakness, was my kids not wanting me to drop them off. Or now, my grandson not wanting me to. I can’t do it. I pray he doesn’t feel guilty over this. I can’t even imagine
Me too!!! It’s so sad. 😢
I’ve always loved your videos. I had a baby 11 months ago and so have been so busy and sleep deprived and haven’t had a chance to keep up to date but recently have been trying to catch up on all your videos Ive missed. I have tried to avoid the child videos because it hurts me so much but I watched these two videos and bloody hell it broke me. I cuddled my baby so tight afterwards. That child’s father is innocent, anyone with half a brain can see that. Stephanie, you are my favourite true crime TH-camr, I love everything about you, the way you paint such a vivid picture of it all, your sense of humour, your wit, your line of thinking etc I’m looking forward to Harloween if that’s still a thing?! Anyways much love from Australia xxxx
The prosecutor going in on their medical examination findings to counter his paid opinion, absolutely broke my heart. You can see and hear in her voice how heartbroken this whole case has left her and the subtle adrenaline in her tone is of a woman defending a child from an attack as if even in death, she felt poor Hannah was still being attacked through their unbelievable claims. She is so incredible to take on that case.