Ares Ion 3.23 Review - Star Citizen
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2024
- I have loved the Areas Ion from day one... So what's it like in 3.23? Strap yourself in for what is probably the most frustrating I have ever been in Star Citizen. In this video, I will review all parts of the Ares Ion and discuss the huge changes that 3.23 has had to this impressive ship.
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Imagine if this was WoT and you bought a £200 premium tank and they nerfed It to this level, I would be livid.
Tbh I hadn't thought of it that way but you are dead right. Star citizen does a fascinating job at making you forgot how much money you spent for PNGs that then get reduced to digital paperweights.
Id be livid if it was finished but this was the first pass of many. Id be more pissed as a HH owner getting 13 hit by an ION or 6 hits each if theres 2. Also, please ignore DPS in high alpha damage ships. It really is redundant
i think they should turn it into a giant hitscan laser tbh
Dude honestly that would be so cool. It would actually make the Ion unique. Like the Exodus on the Idris-K kit. And you have moderate expected maneuverability normally, but when charging up the beam and firing maybe you have shit maneuverability leading to intense DPS hit and runs against large/capitol, but poor prospects against fighter abuse. Cause ofc hitscan would abuse fighters lolol
That would be absolutely epic!!!! Just watch the whole cockpit glow red from this angry Beam Of Doom
Love this ships looks but I regret buying it. Feel like it was a waste of 4.5 million.
Yeah I totally agree. Other patches it has some use, but this time it's awful!
I really wish they would make this ship, the ship they sold me: they said it would have a high magnification (essentially sniper scope) and have a range of 7 to 8 km. as I recall the alpha damage was about 3800 per shot (I realize as shield and armor and ship HP change over time, this must change proportionately) and there would be about 20 shots per minute. but at the time, I think an Arrow had about 7,000 HP (shields and ship HP combined, making it a 2 shot kill) I had dreams of sniping smaller fighters, and even if I could not destroy them, they would essentially be stripped of shields by the time they came into weapon range of the light/medium/heavy fighters of my companions. not to mention the devastating effect it would have on larger ships, it was meant to WRECK connies and seriously threaten Caterpillars, even cap ships if you had a squadron of them. But yeah, aside from the first week of it's launch, it really has never been the ship it was meant to be.
one thing i will say for it. that size 2 QT drive makes it one of the FEW cargo escorts. but a real cargo escort needs a bed, so really all we have is the Vanguard series.
Awesome video, agree with all your points!
Thank you very much!
I love the look of the Ion, and I still prefer it over the Eclipse... but I would *_not_* recommend it to anyone at the moment. My F7A mk2 out does it for DPS, even the F7C mk2 does. The Heartseeker and Bucc probably do too for that matter. I tried using it at XT against the XT Idris and I couldn't reliably hit either the fore or aft hangar doors. If I was trying to be more exact than just hitting "the Idris" I had to be so close there was no point in using an Ares.
I agree, even when im high on copium nd imagine its just a photon torpedo the laser projectile just drifts away or makes a pretty splash but doesn't feel as hefty as it should esp when the inferno seems to just mow small ships down. Great video. The above is my opinion and doesn't matter.
Thanks I'm really glad you liked the video. Tbh if they made the sound and 'shake' more dramatic from firing the cannon. I could still like it, who cares if it works if the thing feels amazing! But currently, yeah, it's got nothing.
Had the Ion. Melted it post first nerf.
Got it again. Melted it again the second I heard of these changes.
Never again.
Ah this had he howling with laughter xD. The cycle continues
Have you tried using the precision firing mode? I find using the charged shot in precision mode makes hitting the target easier.
I have indeed, so that'll definitely help with aiming, however while aiming these shots you'll be within 3km of a presumably angry enemy ship.
Until we can shot at around 7km, you'll just be swarmed in the ion and dead
Completely agree on the engine sounds, but that's a Crusader thing :D
The current state of the ship is really bad, I took it out to assist buddies in an ERT and was shocked how low the damage output is. Luckily it's bought ingame and I can at least use my Warden for fighting.
Ah the Ion and ERTs, you would think that is a match made in heaven.... AND YET they managed to mess that up xD Oh well, it works well against??? Gusts of wind?
SC needs this level of honesty. I'm unsurprised about their troubles with balance, and a dive into marketing policies will probably imply far too much influence there🙂
Ah thank you! I try to be honest and balanced in these vids, it's just rather hard to love this ship atm.
BEST TH-camR EVER!
AHH thank you!
well... there is 1 gun and 2 weapon groups/mouse buttons... maybe they could just use that for modes... but if their intention was to make this iteration of ion and they were ok with it, i fear what other nonsense they will come up xD
That's actually really true! Can't believe I didn't think of that!
not a headache if you're smart, its a large gun, make it do large damage. simple as that. what CIG needs to do is make the shields on ships last significantly larger so fights last more than thirty seconds... a capitol ship fight should be a five to ten minute fight for your damn life because there is fundamentally a home for everyone on it.
I do agree tbh. The original iteration of the Ion had that strong alpha feel (maybe a little too much), I think the issue is, this shouldn't be able to solo kill a capital ship, otherwise it would be so OP. But beefing it up, so it could do some damage and then run would be nice.
Wish I watched this video before using it for Xenothreat.......
In game purchase, too easy to nerf.
Nice review!
Totally agreed. I feel like this has been the most changed ship since it's release... And never for the better
@@MasterBen10 its just here a little too early, eventually it will have its place. For real cash i felt the mk2 was much harder to nerf.
For me having in game goals is important as having the right ship so i have a reson to play.
@@rybuds47 you are absolutely dead right. I've certainly pledged for a few ships. But I still have my grind goals, sadly I don't love re-grinding ships every patch / bug when the ship gets lots. But one day, those goals will be met xD
Lol, has anyone caught on that almost every ship when 1st comes out is "Over powered". Could this be done to sell this or "a" ship?? Just asking, because at this time that's what it looks like.
To be honest I was thinking of making a video on this, because it's uncanny.
First time I’ve seen you content and really enjoyed it. Not to be a dick but you do know that the Firebird has 24 S3 missiles? That said, I don’t actually realise the Ares series had 20! Incredible heavy fighter. I really feel like the range on this canon should be further to give it that sniper feel it was touted as in the beginning. I mean, the S2 Strife Mass Drivers has more range and speed than this s7??
I’d remove the rapid fire function entirely and as you say, increase the range of the charged shot. It would feel like a good balance for the ship. Would be good if you could set the different fire modes to weapons groups. Problem solved
Hey Simon, welcome to the channel! I am really glad you enjoyed the video, cig pulled a fast one and doubled the Firebird missile count in a .1 patch after this video went live, but very good spot!
@@MasterBen10 haha yes…I’m just surprised it was a buff and not the usual nerf post new ship release 😅
@@simonm7590 yeah it's a funny one. I somewhat suspect the firebird did not sell well.
@@MasterBen10 I think you might be right and would be good to see the sales figure for it. I did buy it but only when I realised it was getting buffed with 40% emissions reductions and x2 amount of missiles. Still not sure if I’ll keep it but man, it’s fast! Acceleration and top speed are interceptor class so it’s one helluva a Sally strike craft. Better than the Eclipse imo as the s9 missiles are practically useless at the moment. In fact missiles in general are in a bad place and they really need to fix missiles before either of these ships become truly desirable again.
Just going to ccu to the sentinel and use my bfuks i have in buy back. I’m done with this ship.
Definitely a good idea. I'm really not a vanguard fan, but it's certainly more reliable!
CIG's balance department is about the worst I've ever seen in game development. They make the biggest kneejerk reactionary changes to anything that upsets the meta, so things are constantly swinging from overpowered to completely useless.
Yeah, I would say the changes each patch are worrying. They either think its an amazing idea, or just have zero idea on what to do with it.
Ah yes, the Ares. The ship that was supposed to threaten capital ships, and then cig decided that it shouldn’t be able to harm a light fighter.
All this ship can threaten is a gust of wind.... and even then it will lose
CIG is too scared too unleash the ares. Both should have the highest alfa and dps of the game. Nerf the performance. Since they're so fond of WW II style, use the old interceptor meta, high firepower, high speed, poor turn rates, not having the best acceleration. Done.
I think they could quite easily make the Ion unique and by no means OP or meta. Retain the current movement, buff the range on charge shots to 7-10Km, and make it a true sniper against big ships. At this point you could even have some fun and make the missiles short range but super fast to help stop small fighters.
It's fair to say they could do lots of things .... just not this xD
i love the ion.. but its unusable as it is. you cant hold a charge.. so it just goes off regardless of if your lined up or not making it nearly impossible to aim a fully charged shot unless you and your enemy are iflying in straigth lines. . just make it so you can hold charge fro a second ror two..and after that the weapon starts building up heat.. there fixed.. but.. even if your tap firing and not holding to charge,, there is an ungodly break between firing... having to wait nearly a full second between evrey shot regardless of if its a full powered hold shot or a quick fire is ridiculous and makes it even less usable. why even have it? ifr your doing weaker "quick" shots. then your being burdened by the overly long cooldown making it useless to fire "fast" because your dps will be less then a size 1 gun. and if your charging up..then your already waiting to charge the weapon.. so why have a cooldown ontop of that? oh.. and in a fight. there is almost no feedback for how much its charged or if its abotu to fire or anything. so i keep finding myself looking at the bar go up..wich means im not looking at the target and invariably miss when it DOEs go off.. because again. short of shooting it preemptively. you cant decide when it goes off. it just reaches full charge and discharges of its own free will.
Tbh that's my biggest thing I missed out from the video.
You can't hold a charge!!! You can hold a charge on a Karna but not this???? Absolutely bizarre
Yeah it says it all when You need to list as a first pro quantum drive.. this ship is in dog shit state.
Ikr xD What is good about a heavy fighter? Ahh it makes a great Taxi!
@@MasterBen10 I truly enjoy your content. Keep it up! :)
Booo go back to HH fight ... I want my kill streak to show ;-;
Other than that... that ship needs an overhaul or something... it flies ok but the slug shot I am still in range to a HH turrets
Yeah, it's really interesting to see the changes it gets each patch. It feels like CIG doesn't know what the Ion should be in the game. Oh well... Bring on the 4.0 ion?
Wow, this ship barely moves.
Yeah, it'd give oil tankers a run for their money.
West aos waste of money
It really really is!
This is the saddest ship.
Yes they managed to make it absolutely shit aganst anything smaller than a size 4 ship.
However now its 2/10 aganst big ships which it should atleast be 9/10 at since its the ONLY thing its supposed to be good at.
its 1/10 aganst everything else.
Since it allready oneshots small ships atm but its impossible to hit them, make the cannon do 36k dmg or something for the charged shots so it will still be equally shit at small ships as before but now its actually good aganst big ships when its possible to land shots.
Its absolutely horrible that its a ship thats worthless at anything else beside shooting big ships but when it goes up aganst big ships its dps is also soo shit that you cant even take down bigger ships shields.
Atm when i want to kill any kind of ship in pve i just go with an f8c since that ship is 8/10 aganst EVERYTHING.
Last patch it kinda had a weird nieche that i liked where its dps was still low compared to every other heavy fighter but it had ONE thing going for it and it was the huge capacitor for the gun so its burst window was huge which made it ok at taking down big ones.
Imo, if they just bump up the damage of the charged shots like absolutely mad and keep everything else the same, then it would fullfill its nieche at having lower time to kill on big ships than others and still being bad aganst everything else.
This is my favourite ship in the entire game and as long as its in this state i wont even play the game.
I do agree that this was my favourite ship in the game since it came out... But now I really don't know what to do with it. I guess we wait for 4.0 and hope they change it again?
Why the fuck are we playing this game?