Beethoven Pathetique Petra Somlai
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- Petra Somlai, fortepiano, copy Anton Walter (c.1795, Vienna) by Chris Maene, 2000
Concert Paaskerk, Baarn (NL)
November 5, 2016
Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, Op. 13, 'Pathétique' (1798)
Picture: Robert Smeekes & Louk van Dijk
Sound: Kees Koudstaal
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She makes that instrument sound like a thousand bells for moments. And she reveals details hidden in the midst of shades. Fantastic!
I much prefer this to a steinway, why aren't these instruments more popular to use in piano concerts.
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@@none_of_your_business so authentic. This was composed in 1798, a world of forte piano and harpsichords. It just sounds clunky on Stein way.
I love the bass on these fortepianos. They have this clangy, metallic sound which brings a rawness to the music. Modern pianos "smooth" everything over.
I view it as being more orchestral
There’s much more variation between single registers and much more variation on timbre depending on dynamics. also much better pedal effects frankly.
Old instruments have generally a much richer sound, full of overtones. Modern instruments have a clean and focused sound, but you lose a lot of the unique character. It’s the same on violins, guitars etc.
@@matttondr9282You’re obviously a musician. Your remarks are very specific and exact. Thanks.
@@matteomagurno3068You seem to be a pianist. Thanks for your comments.
It's almost as though there's a ghost of a harpsichord whispering through the overtones of the fortepiano.
Yes like a ghost!
I love that analogy. Modern pianos just evoke more romanticism, clear tones and longer sustain, better for Chopin etc. Beethoven and the fortepiano are a perfect marriage
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@@lonewolf604 The way I always think about it is the masters of past days learned to use every nuance of the instruments they had as opposed to the instruments that would eventually come out. Objectively speaking modern pianos are better in nearly every way, but Beethoven didn't have one and therefore he had to make due with what he had.
Chopin on the other hand had pianos that are a lot closer to the modern piano we have. In fact the piano went through its most defining years during the romantic era and ultimately did not change that much after that. While there have been advancements in that last several decades in piano engineering, none of it has really changed the nature of the instrument. Only refined what was there. As such chopin, liszt and other romantic era composers play very nicely on modern instraments while classical era composers like Beethoven and mozart loose something given they wrote pieces specifically for the instruments of their day and ultimately used the qwerks of the instrument for musical effect.
12:55 that page turn was smooth as hell
I just learned of the death of a dear friend half an hour ago. This music is helping me through the grief and shock. Thankyou.
Hey, I know it's been a while but I hope you are doing well. With love from Britain, Callum.
This is really an ear opener. Like the first time you heard a beethoven symphony on period instruments...but this is even more dramatic.
What a crass, blaring, temperamental instrument....absolutely wonderful!
Made me laugh. And Petra's so sexy, too. Beethoven would have fallen in love, but, alas, 'You are mad and ugly, Ludwig... Of course I'll marry you.'
I finally get why in the beethoven movie they talk about the violence of his music. That keyboard is pretty hardcore loud when she bangs the low notes. The piano doesn't have volume range. This is a pretty cool instrument.
This has to be to way Beethoven probably played the piece. Also, I didn't think I could experience Beethoven like if it was the first time listening. This was amazing and I loved it!!!
Amo Beethoven più di ogni altro, così Mozart, e nei sui confronti provo un senso di colpa quando mi commuovo ascoltando Beethoven. Il fortepiano mi entra nel corpo e nell'anima ed è uno strumento meraviglioso. Grazie Giovanni
1st Movement 0:09
2nd Movement 7:38
3rd Movement 12:33
Is there no 4th?
@@prototypeo1404 nope
By far my favorite interpretation of this piece on TH-cam. She brings out with clarity the role of the upper and lower registers which are lost on a modern piano.
Finally. An interpretation that makes sense. Normally there is just too much noise and it ends up moooshed into nothing meaningful. This interpretation on this instrument, such a relief. Thanks for sharing.
Yep. The Steinway kills this.
What is all that background movement? Annoying audience.
@@scottalbers2518, arthritis.
@@davidklein5007 I agree, too mashed up and muddied.
@@davidklein5007 Yeah, too much unnecessary mushiness on a Steinway. This interpretation is perfectly delicate!!
Her playing is admirable.
I love this woman's brilliant interpretation of this piece. One of my favorites that I've heard so far.
I have never liked the sound of the Fortepiano that is until today, she made that relic of a keyboard sound beautiful! Bravo!
Yah, she definitely does! I think of of the tricks is to have correct use of pedaling work, and she nailed it
This is by far my favourite interpretation of my favourite piano piece. I’ve loved Pathetique for so long on a modern piano. Hearing it played on this incredible fortepiano unlocks many layers of range constrained inside modern pianos. Petra’s phasing is perfect and celebrates the contrasting emotions that Beethoven intended. Bravissimo Petra! Please create a studio recording!
I love her phrasing, especially the articulation at the end of a phrase. And the spaces in her tempo are beautiful.
I love this piano, glad that now we have recordings of what it really sounded like.
I can't stop listening to this, her interpretation is pure perfection. Bravo!
She surely brings out the nuances of the piece,
I think Ludwig would have enjoyed it.
Very fine tone in that piano.
I'm listening to this in the background while focusing on other things, and then the chords just after the one-minute mark come and I'm boisterously reminded of what the modern piano loses by way of contrast compared with the instruments for which this music was written.
The pure rage and tragic in the 1st movement, it is so perfect I say it doesn't miss by even a 0.0001 to me.
Played with passion and conviction. Memorization is a personal choice.
She played like she already memorized it! The score may just be for markings regards interpretation
Memorization was only a practice beginning in the 19th century.
Superb. Lovely instrument - one of the best reproduction forte-pianos I've every heard, and the dynamics of this performance are really full range. Rather special.
Breathtaking level of expertise,even Beethoven himself may be shocked if he could only hear you play,not enough words in a dictionary to tell you how much I Love your music,even though it is Beethoven,it is actually Petra,thanks.
Thank you Petra, Ludwig is present. Wonderful instrument.
It is clear how crazily dramatic and expressive this instrument would have sounded to an audience used to the harpsichord, a proportion of whom would have been outraged at the wayward direction this new percussive technology was taking music.
Absolutely incredible and stunning!! Petra’s genius interpretation coupled with the raw, pure sound of the fortepiano makes this performance an invigorating and awe inspiring experience! Words almost fail me here...
I love period tuning, these pieces just always hit different down a half step, more despair
This is very fine! I could imagine Beethoven playing in this way. I would enjoy hearing more recordings by this artist.
I don't know if you've already seen this, but awhile after you left this comment, someone did post a video of her performing the Moonlight Sonata on (what appears to be) the very same instrument: th-cam.com/video/Ua_GHVEDCdI/w-d-xo.html
Excellent! (For me that is) Yet funny to read the negative comments. Its like watching kids eating sweets and then throwing a tantrum over one piece of candy that didn't match their taste.
LOVE her playing! Drama where needed, technical skill, understanding of the sonata form as an architectonic manifestation. Love hearing this on a period instrument! KUDOS to using the music!
Webster Giles Smith. Dear Webster I love the interpretation and that she is allowed to use music. Hard to find that type of piano fortepiano. Your friend Julie
Justice. To. Beethoven. Finally.
Beethoven must likely played it this way. I love it !. Bravo Petra!.
Love this performance! I hope she will one day re-record with no one around, I really hate the background noise from the live audience, was intrusive from the first few seconds.
The Rondo was spectacular. Great rubato and dynamics...what a treat.
What a brilliant interpretation. Such an interesting, unique, and vibrant take on a popular classic.
The anger in this movement.. Thank you Petra
And again I listen to this amazing performance, dear Petra Somlai. Your interpretation is most convincing and you use all the colours of this beautiful instrument to paint such an amazing landscape of emotions. It is really one of my favorite interpretations.
And that is how you interpret Beethoven !!!
Absolutely astonishing
Great Petra, outstanding performance driving the excellent Chris Maene/Anton Walter like Ludwig in red zone with a maximum of power, sensibility and musical intelligence!
This is so much more beautifully violent and passionate on a forte piano if that makes sense❤
I agree with you on Beethoven's willing touching with a genuine piano walter.
Wonderful playing on a wonderful instrument!
Joyful, passionate, majestic. A profound understanding and empathy of that great period in music, as well as the sonorities of the fortepiano. Very moving. Thank you. 🙏
Acabo de escuchar su interpretación de la sonata n 8 de Beethoven, me ha encantado, he escuchado muchas veces esta sonata interpretada en un piano moderno, pero al escucharlo en un piano Forte me ha sorprendido para bien, su interpretación me ha encantado, pero el primer movimiento ha sido sensacional, la fuerza, el desgarro, el drama que usted consigue en las notas graves con este instrumento, no lo he oído nunca en un piano moderno con tal intensidad y fuerza, ha sido realmente fascinante, es mi versión favorita desde hoy de esta sonata. Gracias.
Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo. El sonido que logra, la violencia y el canto logrados son maravillosos
Bravo maestrina!
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i wish that could play a pianoforte like this one day!
Sounds wonderful, very nice!
This is really exceptional playing. Chris Maene's MiNe109 is also outstanding in its genre.
I love the in strument and the interpretation!
Die beste Interpretation die ich je gehört habe. Ich gartuliere Ihnen!!!
An unbelievably good interpretation - this piece sounds perfect on the instrument
WOW !!! Just WOW
From one musician to another: this is absolutely brilliant!
Dazzling. Best I’ve ever heard.
I've watched this great performance many times, and I don't get tired of watching it. I thing that it sounds like if Beethoven himself, and not this beautiful woman, was at the piano. Bravo!.
Großartig!!! Gänsehaut im Jahre 2020!!!
This old fortepiano is messing with my brain😂 sometimes it sounds like a harpsichord, then a harp, then piano. Really interesting how much the piano has moved on since the 17 to 18 hundreds.
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It's not old, it's a replica.
What a sensitive instrument is this. Very beautifully played.
I appreciate your interpretation I never get tired of listening to him Keep going like that!
Dem Kommentar kann ich mit vollem Herzen ❤️ zustimmen. Ich hätte nicht gedacht dass ich Beethoven einmal so interpretiert höher würde. Danke für diese Aufführung. Rasmus aus Schweden 🙏🙏🙏🙏🎹
Brava! I am glad that there are still people who remember what music means and are passionate in their convictions. Do not listen to the "modern" experts in their confusion. Continue to follow your timing and range which I find remarkably natural and very close to my own interpretations of this masterpiece when I was younger. Best Wishes....
Very talented girl! Best version of pathetique sonata
Wundervolle Interpretation!
After all the deliberate or reverent recordings, this piece is dying for some spirited rubato, plus that mic-drop moment at the last note. Brava!
The name pathétique really makes sense given the anguish of the ghostly bass of the Allegro con brio
A captivating performance! I thought the first movement good but not great; the second was beautifully played, and with the third she had me.
The public doesn’t know how lucky they are. If Alberto Sanna were to perform the sonata, no one would have had time to write a will before they were all dead of old age.
So moving.
This is the true sound for that piece. I love it! Its another Beethoven! Well played too.
outstansing rendition
Beautiful absolutely amazing
Forbidable! Fantastic rubato!
STANDING OVATION!!!
Beautiful playing. It's so interesting to hear a unique version of this much played work. Thank you.
Excellent period piano player she s!
Just Beautiful!
Wow !! Amazing interpretation !! Brava !!
Precis som jag vill höra (och se) henne spela! Vill ha mera, helst här på TH-cam, så jag hittar lätt. Bravo, Petra!
I like Beethoven if it just sounds like this...
I really loved this!
Simply incredible. In more ways than one.
Prachtig!
Emotional, identifying.
Great! This is the real thing. Thanks for sharing.
BRAVO PETRA!!! 👍👍👍
Very interesting, love it!
Beautiful and powerful!
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN (1770-1827)
Sonata for solo piano No. 8 in C minor, Opus 13 "Pathetíque" (1798):
I. Grave - Allegro di molto e con brio.
II. Adagio Cantabile. 7:31
III. Rondo: Allegro. 12:32
Fantastic
Bravo!
This is great!
Awesome Petra!
Que pasión que tiene esta mujer!
Beautiful
beethoven on a forte piano is the most metal thing those old ladies and gentlemen in the audience ever listened to.
Very interesting. Never heard this one on a fortepiano.
... merci pour les vidéos madame ...
Oooh! I cant play like that - !! Wonderful!! Brilliant!!! Surely, its how Beethoven would have played!!
Bravissimo !!!