Have I ever told you my horror story with the CapeFlyer? It was the Friday before Memorial Day 2016, a week before I graduated high school. School was a half-day, so I decided "why not" and went into Boston to ride the train down and out, which would make the connection to the last train out on my home line. Around Quincy Adams, the locomotive breaks down due to IIRC a vacuum tube leak and we had to be pushed all the way to North Lakeville, where a spare F40 from Rochester pulled us the rest of the way to Hyannis and pushed us back to South Station on the return trip. The kicker? That unit, 1056, had just been refurbished and this was its first revenue run out of the shop. We got to Hyannis 70 minutes late, I missed my connection out of North Station, and had my mother pick me up and drive me home, where I walked through the door at 3:15am Would do it again lmao
I rode a similar train from the the Braintree T station to Hyannis in the mid 1980s. Can't remember if it just ran one summer or more. Also they served food and drinks in one of the cars. Spent a nice day visiting downtown Hyannis.
The vintage car show happens every Father's Day, which means you were on the same train I took last year! I did stay longer and took the train back to Boston.
Yup, that's called a cranberry bog! Besides Massachusetts, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Oregon are the leading cranberry-producing states, with Wisconsin harvesting over 60 percent of the country's cranberries. However the largest cranberry grower in both the country and the world is A.D. Makepeace (one of the original founders of Ocean Spray) who's actually based in Wareham! The company farms some 1,750 acres of bog in Carver, Middleborough, Plymouth, Rochester and Wareham! The type of passenger car at 7:08 is a C1! It looks like a LIRR C3 because the C3 was based off it! Basically, these C1s were meant to be for the LIRR and were built by the Tokyu Car Corporation. They were designed by Comeng (an Australian company) who worked with Mitsui, and it was one of their last projects before they ceased to exist in 1990. The reason Comeng didn't follow through with building was because of the instability of their owner Australian National Industries. So they sold the design to Mitsui, and then Mitsui sold it to Tokyu. These C1s were supposed to be part of an experiment to see if they could do a one-seat ride on the partially electrified Port Jeff Branch (not electrified between Huntington and Port Jeff) using dual-modes into Penn. If the experiment was successful (which it was), they'd get a larger order. Which ended up becoming the C3 based on an updated design thanks to feedback. The C3s, however, were built by Kawasaki.
Construction of a Cape Cod canal was first considered by Myles Standish of the Plymouth Colony in 1623. In 1697, the General Court of Massachusetts considered the first formal proposal to build the canal but took no action. A canal was built called Jeremiah's Gutter but this only lasted until the late 1800s. In June 1909, construction finally began for a working canal under the direction of August Belmont Jr.'s Boston, Cape Cod & New York Canal Company using designs by engineer William Barclay Parsons. The canal was first used in July 1914. In 1928, the US government purchased the canal for $11.4 million (over 200 million today) as a free public waterway, and $21 million was spent between 1935 and 1940 increasing the canal's width to 480 feet and its depth to 32 feet. It became the widest sea-level canal of its time. The bridge was constructed beginning in 1933 by the Public Works Administration for the US Army Corps of Engineers, which operates both the bridge and the canal. It is indeed currently the second longest vertical lift bridge in the US, with the longest being the Arthur Kill Vertical Lift Bridge between Elizabeth, NJ and Staten Island. Though when it was completed, it was the longest vertical lift span in the world.
@@pconrz Construction of a Cape Cod canal was first considered by Myles Standish of the Plymouth Colony in 1623. In 1697, the General Court of Massachusetts considered the first formal proposal to build the canal but took no action. A canal was built called Jeremiah's Gutter but this only lasted until the late 1800s. In June 1909, construction finally began for a working canal under the direction of August Belmont Jr.'s Boston, Cape Cod & New York Canal Company using designs by engineer William Barclay Parsons. The canal was first used in July 1914. In 1928, the US government purchased the canal for $11.4 million (over 200 million today) as a free public waterway, and $21 million was spent between 1935 and 1940 increasing the canal's width to 480 feet and its depth to 32 feet. It became the widest sea-level canal of its time. The bridge was constructed beginning in 1933 by the Public Works Administration for the US Army Corps of Engineers, which operates both the bridge and the canal. It is indeed currently the second longest vertical lift bridge in the US, with the longest being the Arthur Kill Vertical Lift Bridge between Elizabeth, NJ and Staten Island. Though when it was completed, it was the longest vertical lift span in the world.
Great video! Funny story tho, I am uploading a similar volg type video later this week that I filmed and edited a few weeks ago 😂 just letting you know I had no intention of copying you!
We had a great experience on the CapeFlyer a few weekends ago! It was super unique to be riding on what felt like a Commuter Rail train, but with a cafe car and a car with actually comfortable seats (the former first class car). It was certainly more than worth the $10 round-trip! Although the cafe car has a limited menu and is a bit pricey, we found the food on offer quite fresh and delicious. We also used the Hyannis Trolley to get around and spend a good part of the day at that beach.
It should be possible to bicycle (~50 miles) from Hyannis to Provincetown in time to catch the 3:00 PM departure of the Provincetown - Boston ferry. The Cape Cod Rail Trail only goes as far north as Wellfleet, so the portion further on to Provincetown would be via public roads.
As great as that would be, I think most locals wouldn’t want the Rail Trail to be taken away The cape cod rail trail is actually a nice bike path, I do think it would be a shame to get rid of it, so maybe rebuild the tracks next to it or something
You can take the ferry from Boston to Ptown which is only a 90 minute ride. Train service to Ptown would probably take 4 hours if they even have tracks that go there.
I’ve lived in Mass my entire life, taken the train in and out of Boston for conventions for a couple years shy of a decade, walk my dogs to my town’s purple line station almost daily, have gone to the Cape and Vineyard a few times, and had every birthday from as early as I remember until I was in high school (my boyfriend doesn’t like water) at Water Wizz, the water park on the line I genuinely have never heard of this in my life. As other comments have said, I don’t have a clue how this is so under-advertised to locals. Would make a day trip to the Cape a lot easier, though getting to and/or parking in Boston that early sounds like a pain
Great video! When did you film this? I would also say that the flyer is better if you can find a window that is not filthy. I took the flyer a few weeks ago and it had the same locomotives and set so wondering if we took it on the same day just different directions
The MBTA studied extending daily commuter to service from Lakeville to Bourne back in 2021… and then they did absolutely nothing. More frequency to the cape is desperately needed, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem like it will change anytime soon
Fall/Winter/Days with bad weather, it takes 45 minutes to drive from Cambridge to visit my parents in Plymouth. Spring /Summer/ Nice days it takes just under three hours.
I'd ask the worm "witch way were you cut" ... "because if you were cut the long way or the short way there would be 4 different answers!!!" Might as well ask a question like that - for a question like that!!!
@@ClassyWhale I disagree it’s Walth-HAM. However it is Dedum (Dedham) and Wrenthum (Wrentham). As a native of the Commonwealth it all makes sense. Also, the T is a political subdivision of the Commonwealth, so if the T owns the tracks or the “state” owns them it’s the same thing, lol. On a side note, how do you pronounce Peabody, Leicester, Worcester and Leominster?
[late comment is late] $40 on Fri/Sat and $20 on Sun on normal operations?? You'd think a $20 for all 3 days would be a better price....then again this is the CapeFlyer so I guess I'll give this one a pass. and if i ever take it I'm gonna just take it on Sundays 🤣(that's probably a lie, but i mean... $20 cheaper on the last day of the weekend, why not?) also: did i hear that right? you're allergic to cinnamon? oof.
Thanks for another interesting video. I always thought this train would do well especially since the road traffic is so bad to get to the cape in summer. However the limited schedule and minimal public transit on the cape does hurt its appeal. At least you found that local fake trolley to get you to the beach. It is nice they do have the bicycle and snack bar car since it is a long trip for a commuter train.
This seems like a nice service! I'll keep this in mind for when my s/o and I visit Boston next year. Would be amazing if MBTA ran this daily instead of just weekends, I could imagine it being very popular. Love the addition of the cafe' car
7:07 old LIRR C1 (predecessor to the C3) coaches! Been on those once. Funny enough Cape Cod Central uses a few other ex-LIRR single level commuter coaches for their dinner train operation.
I remember I took this train for the heck of it back in 2014 when they put the MP36PH-3C’s on them. They’re supposed to be getting rebuilt at the moment, but it’s unclear where they are and what’s gonna happen to them.
That was a great video, and the journey looked like a great deal of fun. This is certainly the way forward for the American Railway company, it was great that they had a buffet car on it, lets hope that it did a good business. It was great to see Kalkidan, she seems to be great company and is always so cheerful.
"Bog" - Kalkidan, 2023
Thought this was the name of the music lol
As a resident of Mass. I had no idea there was a train to the cape. Maybe that's half the problem. Residence don't even know about it.
as someone who lives on the cape i had no idea this existed 😂
They have ads for it all over the place. Do you live under a rock?
They have ads for it all over the place. Do you live under a rock?
I knew. It’s seasonal
Have you never looked at a MBTA map?
If you cut a MBTA train in half, would you love the front half or the other half with the cabcar more?
I grew up on the Cape and live in Boston now. I can tell you without a doubt that the Cape Flyer is the best way to get to the Cape
Great endorsement!
Wild! I grew up in Boston and live on Cape now!
I’m sorry but the picture of the dog in the thumbnail is so funny
More than occasional. And more trains than that. Also sees brunch and dinner trains. Trash trains are daily and more in the summer.
Have I ever told you my horror story with the CapeFlyer?
It was the Friday before Memorial Day 2016, a week before I graduated high school. School was a half-day, so I decided "why not" and went into Boston to ride the train down and out, which would make the connection to the last train out on my home line. Around Quincy Adams, the locomotive breaks down due to IIRC a vacuum tube leak and we had to be pushed all the way to North Lakeville, where a spare F40 from Rochester pulled us the rest of the way to Hyannis and pushed us back to South Station on the return trip.
The kicker? That unit, 1056, had just been refurbished and this was its first revenue run out of the shop.
We got to Hyannis 70 minutes late, I missed my connection out of North Station, and had my mother pick me up and drive me home, where I walked through the door at 3:15am
Would do it again lmao
They really should just make it a full time line. And then extend it to Provincetown.
I rode a similar train from the the Braintree T station to Hyannis in the mid 1980s. Can't remember if it just ran one summer or more. Also they served food and drinks in one of the cars. Spent a nice day visiting downtown Hyannis.
This would still beat having to sit through traffic approaching the Bourne/Sagamore bridges.
Your videos are really cool
Thanks!
I wish more commuter rail systems did things like the cape flyer.
MARC used to do this on the Brunswick Line to Cumberland for some event or other
Commonwealth of Massachusetts*
The vintage car show happens every Father's Day, which means you were on the same train I took last year! I did stay longer and took the train back to Boston.
Too bad that the window is scratched.
First one here nice video
American commuter cars dont have tray tables? That sounds like poor design
They're usually used on trips half this long or less!
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Typical Classy Whale never doing research...
Fun fact Massachusetts is the only state with rail service in every (mainland) county, with the two island counties accessible by ferry from Hyannis.
🎼🎶”Caleb didn’t guard his seltzer.”
Yup, that's called a cranberry bog! Besides Massachusetts, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Oregon are the leading cranberry-producing states, with Wisconsin harvesting over 60 percent of the country's cranberries. However the largest cranberry grower in both the country and the world is A.D. Makepeace (one of the original founders of Ocean Spray) who's actually based in Wareham! The company farms some 1,750 acres of bog in Carver, Middleborough, Plymouth, Rochester and Wareham!
The type of passenger car at 7:08 is a C1! It looks like a LIRR C3 because the C3 was based off it! Basically, these C1s were meant to be for the LIRR and were built by the Tokyu Car Corporation. They were designed by Comeng (an Australian company) who worked with Mitsui, and it was one of their last projects before they ceased to exist in 1990. The reason Comeng didn't follow through with building was because of the instability of their owner Australian National Industries. So they sold the design to Mitsui, and then Mitsui sold it to Tokyu. These C1s were supposed to be part of an experiment to see if they could do a one-seat ride on the partially electrified Port Jeff Branch (not electrified between Huntington and Port Jeff) using dual-modes into Penn. If the experiment was successful (which it was), they'd get a larger order. Which ended up becoming the C3 based on an updated design thanks to feedback. The C3s, however, were built by Kawasaki.
how do you know everything
I'm a Jersey native and it's quite amazing how highly ranked it is for a number of crops.
Construction of a Cape Cod canal was first considered by Myles Standish of the Plymouth Colony in 1623. In 1697, the General Court of Massachusetts considered the first formal proposal to build the canal but took no action. A canal was built called Jeremiah's Gutter but this only lasted until the late 1800s. In June 1909, construction finally began for a working canal under the direction of August Belmont Jr.'s Boston, Cape Cod & New York Canal Company using designs by engineer William Barclay Parsons. The canal was first used in July 1914. In 1928, the US government purchased the canal for $11.4 million (over 200 million today) as a free public waterway, and $21 million was spent between 1935 and 1940 increasing the canal's width to 480 feet and its depth to 32 feet. It became the widest sea-level canal of its time.
The bridge was constructed beginning in 1933 by the Public Works Administration for the US Army Corps of Engineers, which operates both the bridge and the canal. It is indeed currently the second longest vertical lift bridge in the US, with the longest being the Arthur Kill Vertical Lift Bridge between Elizabeth, NJ and Staten Island. Though when it was completed, it was the longest vertical lift span in the world.
Cool story bro, tell it again.
@@pconrz Construction of a Cape Cod canal was first considered by Myles Standish of the Plymouth Colony in 1623. In 1697, the General Court of Massachusetts considered the first formal proposal to build the canal but took no action. A canal was built called Jeremiah's Gutter but this only lasted until the late 1800s. In June 1909, construction finally began for a working canal under the direction of August Belmont Jr.'s Boston, Cape Cod & New York Canal Company using designs by engineer William Barclay Parsons. The canal was first used in July 1914. In 1928, the US government purchased the canal for $11.4 million (over 200 million today) as a free public waterway, and $21 million was spent between 1935 and 1940 increasing the canal's width to 480 feet and its depth to 32 feet. It became the widest sea-level canal of its time.
The bridge was constructed beginning in 1933 by the Public Works Administration for the US Army Corps of Engineers, which operates both the bridge and the canal. It is indeed currently the second longest vertical lift bridge in the US, with the longest being the Arthur Kill Vertical Lift Bridge between Elizabeth, NJ and Staten Island. Though when it was completed, it was the longest vertical lift span in the world.
They should bring back the Amtrak Cape Codder.
It would be useful to run several trains from providence to cape cod
Currently you have to take the Peter Pan bus but trains are obviously cooler, faster and better!
Great video! Funny story tho, I am uploading a similar volg type video later this week that I filmed and edited a few weeks ago 😂 just letting you know I had no intention of copying you!
Whoa, hi Max!!
We had a great experience on the CapeFlyer a few weekends ago! It was super unique to be riding on what felt like a Commuter Rail train, but with a cafe car and a car with actually comfortable seats (the former first class car). It was certainly more than worth the $10 round-trip! Although the cafe car has a limited menu and is a bit pricey, we found the food on offer quite fresh and delicious. We also used the Hyannis Trolley to get around and spend a good part of the day at that beach.
Can you and kalkidan make more videos together. Plsss
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"Thats the wrong movie" 😂
It should be possible to bicycle (~50 miles) from Hyannis to Provincetown in time to catch the 3:00 PM departure of the Provincetown - Boston ferry. The Cape Cod Rail Trail only goes as far north as Wellfleet, so the portion further on to Provincetown would be via public roads.
this is a great video idea!
It gets rather hilly after Wellfleet, after a segue through a public campground, if I recall. Extremely pretty ride though. Bring lots of water.
Hi,You missed another reason to go.Quality time together.Your such a nice couple.
The bus line is faster, has more scheduled trips and is cheaper. Only tourists ride this joke.
MBTA Should have bought the line all the way to Provinence Town and then it would make it easier to get to PTown and they could do a train to Pride
They'd have to rebuild the tracks!
I would love that. I really would.
As great as that would be, I think most locals wouldn’t want the Rail Trail to be taken away
The cape cod rail trail is actually a nice bike path, I do think it would be a shame to get rid of it, so maybe rebuild the tracks next to it or something
There’s a boat that runs between Boston and Province Town that’s much faster and runs more frequently than the trains.
You can take the ferry from Boston to Ptown which is only a 90 minute ride. Train service to Ptown would probably take 4 hours if they even have tracks that go there.
Great video! One question: Why was the first class car empty if there is no additional charge to sit there?
Presumably because it wasn't just Caleb who didn't do his research? 😁
Fun fact: in the UK, they would call this declassified first class.
I’ve lived in Mass my entire life, taken the train in and out of Boston for conventions for a couple years shy of a decade, walk my dogs to my town’s purple line station almost daily, have gone to the Cape and Vineyard a few times, and had every birthday from as early as I remember until I was in high school (my boyfriend doesn’t like water) at Water Wizz, the water park on the line
I genuinely have never heard of this in my life. As other comments have said, I don’t have a clue how this is so under-advertised to locals. Would make a day trip to the Cape a lot easier, though getting to and/or parking in Boston that early sounds like a pain
Great video! When did you film this? I would also say that the flyer is better if you can find a window that is not filthy.
I took the flyer a few weeks ago and it had the same locomotives and set so wondering if we took it on the same day just different directions
The bike car is sick I didn’t realize they had one
Very interesting. I need to take that train at least once lol.
Last train back to Boston leaves waayyyyy too early for it to be a practical option for a day trip.
USA NEEDS MORE TRAINS AND HIGH SPEED TRAINS.... WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND IN LOGISTICTS... we depend on trucks way to much
The MBTA studied extending daily commuter to service from Lakeville to Bourne back in 2021… and then they did absolutely nothing. More frequency to the cape is desperately needed, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem like it will change anytime soon
At least to buzzards bay should make sense
The tracks are owned by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts
The Plymouth & Brockton Street Railway really discourage the use of cell phones on their buses.
What’s your friend’s name?
Kalkidan :) she's my bestie
Or more than bestie
@@EmperorMaglev perhaps
@@ClassyWhale Do you actually mean it?!
@@EmperorMaglev mean what?
Nope milesintransit said nope
- Cape Cod
- Worth it
Yeah, that's gonna be a not at all from me, dawg.
Cape Anne >>> Cape Cod ngl
Ware ham.
Nope it expensive
"tourist train" mf thats the MBTA thats no "tourist train"
It's for tourists to ride to do touristy things...
Hey, I was on that train and saw you guys!
11:45 rmtransit swag!
Fall/Winter/Days with bad weather, it takes 45 minutes to drive from Cambridge to visit my parents in Plymouth. Spring /Summer/ Nice days it takes just under three hours.
I'd ask the worm "witch way were you cut" ... "because if you were cut the long way or the short way there would be 4 different answers!!!" Might as well ask a question like that - for a question like that!!!
how packed was the train? Im going to take the cape flyer and want to know.
Pretty full, but we showed up at the last minute and there were still seats
@@ClassyWhale thx
I used to live right down the street from that beach and grew up on the cape actually. It's weird seeing it again after so long
WareHAM, not Wareum
But it's Walthum, not WalthHAM...MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
@@ClassyWhale I disagree it’s Walth-HAM. However it is Dedum (Dedham) and Wrenthum (Wrentham). As a native of the Commonwealth it all makes sense. Also, the T is a political subdivision of the Commonwealth, so if the T owns the tracks or the “state” owns them it’s the same thing, lol.
On a side note, how do you pronounce Peabody, Leicester, Worcester and Leominster?
Is there a reason for that license plate????
I wish it ran more frequently. I went in april & the train i took to get to boston was the kingston line
No it’s not trust me as a man from Barnstable it’s not worth it
I like the crude (but still accurate) map of Massachusetts.
I don't think I would take it since it doesn't go all the way to P-town.
I railfan it every weekend
Thanks for sharing. So informative and fun. This made my day
Long Island spells it Rail Road, too.
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$40 on Fri/Sat and $20 on Sun on normal operations?? You'd think a $20 for all 3 days would be a better price....then again this is the CapeFlyer so I guess I'll give this one a pass. and if i ever take it I'm gonna just take it on Sundays 🤣(that's probably a lie, but i mean... $20 cheaper on the last day of the weekend, why not?)
also: did i hear that right? you're allergic to cinnamon? oof.
Cinnamon gum, which uses artificial flavoring - not real cinnamon, thankfully!
@@ClassyWhale that's a plus at least!
Who was having the private phone convo?
Some woman a few rows back
Thanks for another interesting video. I always thought this train would do well especially since the road traffic is so bad to get to the cape in summer. However the limited schedule and minimal public transit on the cape does hurt its appeal. At least you found that local fake trolley to get you to the beach. It is nice they do have the bicycle and snack bar car since it is a long trip for a commuter train.
This seems like a nice service! I'll keep this in mind for when my s/o and I visit Boston next year. Would be amazing if MBTA ran this daily instead of just weekends, I could imagine it being very popular. Love the addition of the cafe' car
There is a proposal made recently to restore full commuter service to the Cape. Stay tuned.
7:07 old LIRR C1 (predecessor to the C3) coaches! Been on those once. Funny enough Cape Cod Central uses a few other ex-LIRR single level commuter coaches for their dinner train operation.
I remember I took this train for the heck of it back in 2014 when they put the MP36PH-3C’s on them. They’re supposed to be getting rebuilt at the moment, but it’s unclear where they are and what’s gonna happen to them.
Talk slower, please.
What a great ride! I think it is certainly worth it, and what a shame you couldn’t wait for the return train !
Yes it is.
That was a great video, and the journey looked like a great deal of fun. This is certainly the way forward for the American Railway company, it was great that they had a buffet car on it, lets hope that it did a good business. It was great to see Kalkidan, she seems to be great company and is always so cheerful.
Rail Road. Looking at you Long Island