I really should have given up but I just love trying to do something ridiculously hard. I worry sometimes that always failing has conditioned me to fail. I started at 40 and now approaching 60 It's helped me through what no doubt has been am extremely troublesome mind. Well done and enjoy your passion
I came back to finish listening, as my first listen was interrupted. So glad I dedicated this afternoon to catching up on things music related and got back to this. I do have a piece, an etude, which has been bothering me for years. It's deceptively simple (aimed at low intermediate). I'm frustrated because I don't understand it. I keep asking myself "why does it do this?" I think tomorrow I will tackle it with all my instruments (harp, guitar, and recorders) because sometimes things become clearer in a different environment, and rising and falling scales are always useful. It will be worth a try.
Thank you. I struggled with how to approach this, wondering if it was ok to move to the next piece when you’re close but not nailing it 100%. This is very helpful !
@@wholovesyababy5574 You are welcome. I have found that not all guitar players are well versed in goal setting, identifying stumbling blocks, left & right hand technique and the motivation & inspiration to figure out ways to bridge where you are to where you want to go. Test & assess. Small pieces. It might be because teaching for many, like many careers or jobs are focused on filling schedules & making money to live when the money comes when you can create “aha” or “wow affect” moments for students who would love to stay with you. It’s not easy. It’s a passion to teach and be rewarded by seeing realizing you were so instrumental in that development. You are one such Teacher. I know they are out there. What questions could an older student ask of a teacher that might lend insight. Like any coach. Athletics or otherwise. There are training methodologies that in fact work. Just be steady & consistent. Stripping away time-wasters. Going deep into the idiosyncrasies of practice & executing what you learn. A good teacher will take or prevent players from a plateau, become frustrated and some regretfully give up. When success might be right around the corner. Thanks for your corner & content.
Thanks Diego for another informative and inspiring session. Think I’ve been doing things more or less in accord with your suggestions, both in my own playing and teaching, but I’m looking forward now to bringing a bit more awareness to exactly what’s going on in practice or when moving on to new pieces. Keep up the great work!
I think people are a lot more different than this line of reasoning gives credit for, although it is valuable for many. A couple of those differences are the dedication, or level aimed at, since some are always wanting to improve and become the best player they can, while others aren't quite so driven, and how good one is at listening (having a good musical ear), being creative (trying different things), self-motivation and self-criticism. For me, (guitarist, but mostly playing piano these days) the idea of learning pieces and then deciding when it's time to move on seemed odd, but that's because my approach on 3 (my musical goals) is essentially to learn pieces I love so much I can't not learn them, which means I'm unlikely never to play them again. I'm building a repertoire, first and foremost, but knowing that this will naturally improve my skills over time, and I'm aiming for a very high competence on those pieces. I don't care about identifying arbitrary weaknesses I might have in my playing, which will be many, because I'll find them when I try to play something I want to play and meet that challenge. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the idea of moving on to new material: that question is important for me, because I can too easily add another new piece to my practice routine and neglect older ones on it that I haven't got up to scratch. Your recent one on The FASTEST Way to Memorize Music was a revelation to me, and I've been telling me friends to try memorizing music instead of reading it for weeks or months waiting for a time when we know it so well we might try playing it without the music. I'm learning pieces much faster when I make memorizing them my goal, i.e. just using the music when I don't know how it goes. I'm sure the earlier months of practice had their effect as well, but in a couple of weeks of doing this I've added about five new pieces to my no-music repertoire, and looking at my hands instead of the dots means I make fewer mistakes and I concentrate more on musicality and interpretation. My level of expertise is probably between 2 and 4. Difficulty of the music, maybe 4 to 6. Working my way through the Goldberg Variations, in rough order of difficulty.
Thank you for giving me the license to turn the page on this extremely boring waltz 😂 I have had some lessons with an extremely good teacher but I think he overestimates my musical base and pushes me to play simple pieces at a very high level of musicality. It’s been very instructive, but I think I also need to just chew through a bunch of material as a beginner (2/10 experience level, if that).
Really, really interesting! I was beginning to doubt the wisdom of persevering to perfect grades.... I flogged myself for months and got a distinction, by which time I was sick of pieces I originally liked I'm coming to suspect the learning curve is S shaped and I might be better off moving forward once I reach the Pass/Merit boundary. I think that's more or less what you're saying here?
Very interesting! I was just about to say I am a 5 out of 10 when you said you were a 6-8 , that makes me a 2 😫😂😂, surely as a pro you are 8 1/2 to 9 ??😄 My opinion is you should be able to play a piece well without going over the top in detail s before moving on ,and if you really like it then milk it more , I do think our interest does wane on every piece after few months of practice on it , I think also learning a piece well and leave it for a few months and come back to it again is great tool to master a piece, BUT treating it as if new !!
Really good and helpful advice 👍🏼
I really should have given up but I just love trying to do something ridiculously hard.
I worry sometimes that always failing has conditioned me to fail.
I started at 40 and now approaching 60
It's helped me through what no doubt has been am extremely troublesome mind.
Well done and enjoy your passion
Your opinion is valued Diego, thank you again
I came back to finish listening, as my first listen was interrupted. So glad I dedicated this afternoon to catching up on things music related and got back to this. I do have a piece, an etude, which has been bothering me for years. It's deceptively simple (aimed at low intermediate). I'm frustrated because I don't understand it. I keep asking myself "why does it do this?" I think tomorrow I will tackle it with all my instruments (harp, guitar, and recorders) because sometimes things become clearer in a different environment, and rising and falling scales are always useful. It will be worth a try.
Thank you! This video was very helpful!
thanks for the real talk
Thank you. I struggled with how to approach this, wondering if it was ok to move to the next piece when you’re close but not nailing it 100%. This is very helpful !
Awesome information. Next video. Criteria and questions to find a good/great finger-style teacher.
Great topic. Thank you for suggesting it.
@@wholovesyababy5574
You are welcome. I have found that not all guitar players are well versed in goal setting, identifying stumbling blocks, left & right hand technique and the motivation & inspiration to figure out ways to bridge where you are to where you want to go. Test & assess. Small pieces. It might be because teaching for many, like many careers or jobs are focused on filling schedules & making money to live when the money comes when you can create “aha” or “wow affect” moments for students who would love to stay with you. It’s not easy. It’s a passion to teach and be rewarded by seeing realizing you were so instrumental in that development. You are one such Teacher. I know they are out there. What questions could an older student ask of a teacher that might lend insight. Like any coach. Athletics or otherwise. There are training methodologies that in fact work. Just be steady & consistent. Stripping away time-wasters. Going deep into the idiosyncrasies of practice & executing what you learn. A good teacher will take or prevent players from a plateau, become frustrated and some regretfully give up. When success might be right around the corner. Thanks for your corner & content.
Thanks Diego for another informative and inspiring session. Think I’ve been doing things more or less in accord with your suggestions, both in my own playing and teaching, but I’m looking forward now to bringing a bit more awareness to exactly what’s going on in practice or when moving on to new pieces. Keep up the great work!
Great info
I think people are a lot more different than this line of reasoning gives credit for, although it is valuable for many. A couple of those differences are the dedication, or level aimed at, since some are always wanting to improve and become the best player they can, while others aren't quite so driven, and how good one is at listening (having a good musical ear), being creative (trying different things), self-motivation and self-criticism.
For me, (guitarist, but mostly playing piano these days) the idea of learning pieces and then deciding when it's time to move on seemed odd, but that's because my approach on 3 (my musical goals) is essentially to learn pieces I love so much I can't not learn them, which means I'm unlikely never to play them again. I'm building a repertoire, first and foremost, but knowing that this will naturally improve my skills over time, and I'm aiming for a very high competence on those pieces. I don't care about identifying arbitrary weaknesses I might have in my playing, which will be many, because I'll find them when I try to play something I want to play and meet that challenge.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the idea of moving on to new material: that question is important for me, because I can too easily add another new piece to my practice routine and neglect older ones on it that I haven't got up to scratch.
Your recent one on The FASTEST Way to Memorize Music was a revelation to me, and I've been telling me friends to try memorizing music instead of reading it for weeks or months waiting for a time when we know it so well we might try playing it without the music. I'm learning pieces much faster when I make memorizing them my goal, i.e. just using the music when I don't know how it goes. I'm sure the earlier months of practice had their effect as well, but in a couple of weeks of doing this I've added about five new pieces to my no-music repertoire, and looking at my hands instead of the dots means I make fewer mistakes and I concentrate more on musicality and interpretation. My level of expertise is probably between 2 and 4. Difficulty of the music, maybe 4 to 6. Working my way through the Goldberg Variations, in rough order of difficulty.
Thank you for giving me the license to turn the page on this extremely boring waltz 😂
I have had some lessons with an extremely good teacher but I think he overestimates my musical base and pushes me to play simple pieces at a very high level of musicality. It’s been very instructive, but I think I also need to just chew through a bunch of material as a beginner (2/10 experience level, if that).
Really, really interesting! I was beginning to doubt the wisdom of persevering to perfect grades.... I flogged myself for months and got a distinction, by which time I was sick of pieces I originally liked
I'm coming to suspect the learning curve is S shaped and I might be better off moving forward once I reach the Pass/Merit boundary.
I think that's more or less what you're saying here?
Very interesting!
I was just about to say I am a 5 out of 10 when you said you were a 6-8 , that makes me a 2 😫😂😂, surely as a pro you are 8 1/2 to 9 ??😄
My opinion is you should be able to play a piece well without going over the top in detail s before moving on ,and if you really like it then milk it more ,
I do think our interest does wane on every piece after few months of practice on it ,
I think also learning a piece well and leave it for a few months and come back to it again is great tool to master a piece, BUT treating it as if new !!