ASUS RTX 2070 - WILL IT FIT IN AN ALIENWARE X51?? Replacing a NVIDIA GTX 1080 Reference Card
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- Comment or post any questions below and I will do my best to answer. Thanks for watching.
www.frozencpu.... - Here is a link to the replacement 10mm fan I used.
www.ebay.com/i... - This is a link to the 6pin to 8pin adapter I used. Double check before you use this link as eBay links my not remain active forever.
Dude, you’re a god. Thank you
which ppower supply do you have inside? does the 2070 require you to have a powersupply better than the stock version it came with?
It's the 330W power brick which sits outside the case
What a beast of a card! Holy SH!T!
How’s this going for you? What have you been running (just so I know how much you’re pushing things)? Specifically concerned about the limited power supply of the x51.
Great video man. I'm looking at upgrading my R3 from an i5 6400 to an i7 7700k and an asus 2070 super blower style as well. Thanks for the info on the power connections and where you relocated a fan.
It's 5 months, did you do it? Did you notice any real difference when it comes to gaming? I have the i5 6400 and reading around most people have suggested there isn't any point in upgrading the processor the graphics card is the main thing needed. There is some bottlenecking at the really really high end but everyone said you wouldn't notice it most of the time.
@@yautjacetanu No. If you are going to upgrade your GPU please upgrade your CPU so you can use the full advantage of the GPU. If you have a low-end CPU and a high-end GPU you will not be able to get the full potential of the GPU. The same goes for the other way around.
I have the same cpu, in order to upgrade 7th gen can you tell me if i need to update mother BIOS or something to replace
thats is such a nice living room gaming machine paired with a 120hz tv panel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes it could fit nicely behind a TV. Add a wireless KB / Mouse and bluetooth controller and you are set
Hey man thanks for ur vid. Got a few questions since u have experience.
1. Power does the stock 330w reeeeally support the 2070?? Thats fricken nuts man.
2. Whats the temps u get? Like does it ever go above 85 or even 80?
GeForce RTX 2070 (1620 MHz, 8192 MB GDDR6, 448 GB/s, 175 W)
ALIENWARE X51(330 W)-175 W
Im upgrading my Dad's R3, this is incredible! I'm going to attempt a 2070 swap. Now that we're 4 years later, do you have a current report on how things have gone? Any issues with cooling, power, needing to throttle the card..?
I can’t believe you got it to fit and I have to stick with the same Alienware but mine is the r1 x51 and it has a GTX 1060 3GB with lots of room left
does this run well with your 330 watt ??
I have the same configuration, but the graphics card is not the one with blower.
Great to hear its running well on your R1. Did you have to upgrade the power board and the PSU to the 330W one?
Great Video U Made my day
What an impressive config WOW, really love it! i just bougth yesterday a MSI gtx 1080 dual fan, but i bougth a dual 6 pin female to one 8 pin male, but i now see that you use one only wire adaptor 6 pin female to 8 pin male, and i supose that you use the other one oem 6 to 6 pin to the newest rtx 2070 card? thx in advance mate
Have you had any issues with the power supply, even with the 330W brick?
great video
Thanks!
Hey man, great vid! just wondering if a 1070 asus turbo 8gb card would fit in the x51 r2 and would i have to do any fam removals for it?
See if you can find the specs on how long the card is and compare it to the 1080 Reference specs or the 2070 since both those fit
Hey man any update? Btw u got a nice voice. Pretty soothing lol.
So far everything is still running good. I haven’t had any temperature problems, but I did adjust my fan curve slightly to make sure temps stay in a good place. Not sure it’s necessary but I did it for piece of mind. Maybe I can do an update soon with temps both ways, before and after curve adjustment.
And thanks! Hopefully not so soothing to put people to sleep though! :D
Awesome man thx.
I wish more companies stuck to tiny formfactor prebuilt pc's
i mean for sure there are a few but barely any this small
how does it run on modern games? great vid btw
It has it drawbacks. The alienware x51 run notoriously hot. And that is due to the compact design, which now after owning one for 6 years, and having to switch tower cases out, can say, that the compact design is NOT a good thing.
I have not seen any bad temps. It stays pretty cool. But I think two things that help are make sure your card is blower style, pushing hot air out the back, and replace the standard HD with a SSD. The smaller size allows for more airflow.
I have this Alienware pc sitting in my closet. I think I’ll give this a try.
for anyone actually thinking about doing this the biggest psu in a x51 is 330w and the recommended power for a gpu with this psu is 75w, if this guy actually put this card in this computer he would of had to upgrade the psu considering it used 226w compared to the 75w to 100w it’s capable of. I would suggest google to anyone looking to upgrade the x51
I do not think it is possible to upgrade the PSU in the x51? Have you heard of anyone showing that they have done this?
www.dell.com/community/Alienware-General-Read-Only/Upgrade-Alienware-X51-power-supply/td-p/5606009 - I checked on the dell support community. They said you need to make extensive changes to the case and the motherboard itself won't support it. It's very unlikely he increased the PSU. It would be nice to have someone confirm this. But I think we can assume not.
fyr You are correct that the largest PSU brick available (without rigging some kind of other external custom setup) is 330w. This card takes a max of 175w. This leaves 155w for the remainder of the system. This seems to be enough to run the rest of the system hardware on the R3. If you try this on an R1 or R2 you might have some issues. Even though R1 and R2 users can also have 330w total if they have the correct brick, the older cpu and motherboard architecture might not be quite as power efficient.
@@computersnthings488 i have an x51 r1 i dont know what power supply I have can I juste buy an 1080 and run it in there ?
I used a Quadro K5200
Just wondering how that could be? Doesn't it CPU bottleneck and how about your TDP with that GPU. 330 watt power supply for that x51
Don't you reached your wattage limit with those higher end graphics cards with such a small power supply. I think the max you can go is a GTX 1060 or something with equivalent TDP or lower.
Max Wattage of GPU that the r3 supports is technically 175W but I have pushed to 180W with the GTX 1080
I have the same X51 R2 and installed a EVGA 2070 Super Blower style card. it worked well and did a bit of modification. I installed a 60x10mm fan at the front of the case and it was able to pull air in.
What I didn't like is that the EVGA blower card is very loud and sounds like a jet engine. The GPU temps soars up to 86c-90c, it also depends on the ambient room temperature.
All was running well for a month and unfortunately, my 2070 super started to glitch out. Green dots started to show up everywhere on my screen. I have returned the card and now contemplating if I should purchase the Asus 2070 super instead of the EVGA brand.
I have and old X51 R1 kicking about. Would I be able to get a GTX 1080 in there?
It would fit, since its the same case, but you may need to purchase a replacement 330W PSU (the r1s came with a smaller Watt one) and the R1s also cannot take the 330W PSU unless you buy the revised power board as well. (It was released with the R2s and R3s) They can be found on ebay.
What rtx 2060 would be best
definitely you want it to be blower style (1 fan sucking air in and pushing it out the back of the case, not the two fan style)
have you ever had to upgrade your psu?
No
No I'm using the 330W power brick that came with the X51 r3
the 1660 vid in the x51 r3
I want to upgrade a X51 R2, about the GPU do you need something else? I mean I just know I need to buy a 330W brick and a better CPU (current one it's i5 4460).
If you have time -do an update 1 month or so from now. Post temps/ and are there problems. Throttling etc. How much improved -from the 1080
nice comment,im also interested , maybe leave the phone attached to a HOLDER while you do all the fiddle'ing??
Thanks I thought the same thing while I got into that. I have a tripod, so maybe I can get a phone adapter before my next video.
Thanks, these are good ideas. Things have been running well. Hopefully I can do another video with the items you mentioned.
Got the Alienware X51 and just got a 1080 , my power supply is 330w , and when I try to run a game it shut downs...What power supply do u use ?
I have the same power supply. You might want to check your firmware. Are you running version 1.2.11?
Hey can u tell me how smooth can u play with Alienware x51 So can u tell me about some games u played and fps of them and what settings
Front case fan is blowing the wrong way …
I wonder if buying a cheap case and transferring everything over to fit a bigger graphics card is worth it, a $50-75 case with more space will do wonders with an upgraded power supply and fans.
If you are doing a new case, you will probably need to do a new motherboard also. The power supply connects to the motherboard through a proprietary connection. A new PSU will not directly hook up to this motherboard
Great video bro can you tell me cpu model and your power adapter voltage pls, cause i want to do the same but i think that my i5 6400 could make a bottleneck with rtx graphic card, and im not sure about had enought power
330W power adapter (Alienware made two versions of the power adapter so you have to have the 330W one. Also CPU is 6700 (non-K version)
what is your alienware power brick output ? I have 330w and it tilt if I try a game on rtx 2070 :(
Will the RX 5700 XT red devil fit u think ? Was looking at buying one for my x51
I would not use that one. You want blower style (the one with a singe fan) since it is designed to suck air in and blow it out the back. Much better for heat in small spaces. The dual fan ones, even though it may seem two is better than one, the ones with two fans just push the hot air around in the case
If i take out the 10mm fan that its next to the GPU can I fit an 11inch graphic card? I want to put a 1060 6gb G1 in my X51
italo solar I hope you found your answer months ago. It incase you didn’t.... you can safely fit a PNY GTX 1060 6GB blower into a X51 with the stock fan. No need to remove or change the fan.
@@Reluctant_Hero brother should i also change the stock fan with this fan that he is using in the video for better cooling.
@@hasnainshahzadh You could. But it isn’t required for a GTX 1060 or 1660 Ti.
@@Reluctant_Hero thanks you replied plus how did he managed to run a gtx 2070 on this pc..i mean the charger is only 330watts
I just tried to update my R3 video card in the system but the video card I purchased wasn't the correct one to even fit the PCI slot. It's tough to find one that fits.
i use a 1080 founders edition in my r2 now why didnt you go with any 2080 or better cards? was the FPS any better i get a 50 or 30fps average with mine right now on ANTHEM ultra but i need to downclock CORE by 50 on msi afterburner and ENERGY to 80% if not it shut down the computer do you need to pull down the electrical status some to 80 like me with a MORE ELECTRICAL craving GPU as yout 2070 ?did you change the charger or something you have ANTHEM ? you tried it out with your setup how was the results??
Hey there! If you check out the specs of any graphics card you will see a spec that notes the max power draw. For the GTX 1080 the power draw for the reference card is 180W. The max power draw the X51 (R2 or R3) can handle is a 175W card according to the system specs. So the 1080 is just a small amount over the official limit. It is assumed when Alienware published the specs they left a little bit of buffer room. That’s why we can get by using the GTX 1080 without a problem.
Now we know based on the RTX 2070 specs, it uses exactly 175W. But in my opinion, there is no way with the current power constraints that a RTX 2080 can be used. Even though fitting in the case is likely not a problem, the draw on the 2080 is more like 225W. I think this is likely too far over the limit, and the card will not function correctly.
Now I’m using the R3 and haven’t had any problems with shutdown them I had the 1080 running. I have read that it could be that the R3 with the newer processed is slightly more energy efficient. Did you check that your firmware is the most up to date available? I’m assuming you are using the 330W power supply also? Some of the R2s came with a smaller power supply. They are easy to swap out if you can find a replacement on eBay, if you find you have the smaller one.
Computers N Things yeah I got one for 40€ really cheap 330w waiting on it to come have the smaller one for the moment, if I want to play vr games I need to clock down 150 and men clock down 108 and set the energy on 75 and put the fan so it adjust earlier than supposed to
i tried installing a 1060 6gb blower style card in my r2 and it drew so much power it kept shutting off. how is anyone able to get these bigger cards to work? Ihave the 330w psu also.
Matthew Faulkner I’ve been using a 1060 6GB blower in my X51 R2 for two years without issue. I’m assuming that your machine is like mine and has two 6-pin power plugs for GPU? If so, I’ve only used one of the plugs and left the second unplugged.
Hi
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I want your advice with my x51 r3
It has 16gb (8x2) ddr4 and GTX 960, I want to upgrade them to the maximum I can do
I read some people's comments about that 32gb is the maximum ram capacity with 2666mhz
But they also said it's impossible to upgrade the GPU from GTX 970 to any higher tier so their comments aren't that reliable
I also read that some people did some tweaks in the bios and used external modular power supply and they did manage to upgrade their CPU
So please tell me if that's possible too because I want to get my pc to the maximum upgrade in the same case and motherboard
32 is the max 2x16
I don't think any BIOS tweaks are necessary. I didn't do any. If you have an r3 you should be able to upgrade. I would recommend swapping out to SSD drive instead of mechanical. Smaller size means more airflow room for a large card. Only certain 16GB ram sticks are reported to work though.
Could i put 1070 turbo inside this exact case bro
yes i put pny geforce 1070 blower style video card
Not sure if you said it in the video but what cpu are you using? I wanted to do this but I'm afraid of bottlenecking
Right now I am running an i7 4770
The 4770 still holds up pretty well
how do you have a 4770? my x51 can only fit a 3770
You must have an r2? The cpu i have is 6700 (non-k)
What changes would I need to make to my alienware x51 r2 to fit an rtx 2070 in it? I already upgraded the power source for a gtx 1060 6gb founders edition, is there a blower model of the rtx 2070 that I could fit in there without problems? I know a rtx 2060 would probably give me more space and watts to spare but I don't think it's a big enough jump from the gtx 1060 to make it worth it....
what did youchagne concerning the POWER SOURCE ?? the charger itself that comes with the PC ? or the big ENERGY OUTPUTTER ? like the one inside the pc `? (sorry for my pc language im a amateur , learn all from youtube literally )
If you changed the power brick to the 330W you should be fine. My friend also put a 2070 in his X51 and he has the R2. He bought the Zotac blower model. It is actually a little shorter than this card. That would be a much better upgrade IMO, plus you would get the benefits of support for ray tracing.
If I remember correctly, all R2s have the support for the 330W power supply (the brick). Just check your brick and make sure it says 330W and you are good to go. It’s only some of the R1 people that may need to change internals to support the bigger power brick.
@@computersnthings488 i have the R1 and it came with a 330 power brick by default.I upgraded to the GTX 1060 but now i want either the 1080 or 2070 depending on my budget, do you think those would work or do i still need to change the power board inside to make it work even though i have the 330watt brick?
Rami H I’m not 100% certain about the R1 configuration defaults, but I would think if you purchased the computer from dell and it came with the 330w power brick, you should be good to go. I have heard many R1 users have needed to upgrade the power board also, but as I understand they also did not have the 330w power brick by default either. Please be aware also that the R1 motherboard, cpu, and other hardware may not be as power efficient so I can’t guarantee the exact same results if you try the 2070. You should be fine though with a blower style 2060.
Did you have to take apart the x51 to get the 10mm fan in there?
I was thinking about the same question , i can’t find any video online as to how to remove the front fan. Could someone upload a video on how to remove the front fan ?
Yes I did. I would recommend there is a good X51 disassembly video on youtube. Basically with both sides of the case off the front of the case has clips on both sides that when pinched allow the front face to come off. It's a fair amount of disassembly
Would it work with a rtx4070 if i use an hdplex 600w psu? (Alt to the x51s 330w)
Thinking about purchasing an RTX 2060 Super, and I haven't upgraded anything to my X51 R3. It's 100% stock atm. Will it still be able to function correctly with the R3's base components?
Hi Andrew, I would not recommend going with the 2060 Super, as it is not a blower style graphics card. The blower cards are designed to suck air through the graphics card and push hot air out the back of the card (outside of your case).
This is necessary for the X51 and all the components are so tightly packed in. It is the only way to keep the card adequately cooled.
Look for cards that have a single intake fan design. Cards with multiple fans may look like they do a better job cooling, but the hot air has no way to easily escape the case.
Hi, did you change de PSU ? How did you done this?
Hi, I did not change the PSU. The X51 R3 comes with the 330W power supply. Check the power brick that came with yours. It will say what Wattage it does.
How did u get it rund with the same power supply as it wouldn't have enough power to put up with 8gb I tried
Which version of x51 are you running? And do you mean 8gb of ram? The size of ram doesn't really matter. If you are running a more powerful graphics card you need to have the 330W power supply. If you have x51 R1 or R2 you may not have the 330W power supply. If you have R1 there is something on the motherboard you need to swap out to be able to use the 330W power supply. If you are running R2, you can just replace the power supply only, if you dont have the 330W... But check what you have. Some R2s came with the 330W supply.
Please suggest how to fit a dual GPU graphics card in x51
Hi, not sure what you mean. Do you mean two cards like in SLI mode? If so, it's not possible.
So I’m having a problem with mine. When I boot up, I get no signal to my monitor and my pc shuts off after about a minute or two
Using too much power
330w power supply. Depends on what card you have if its overclocked it can be running alot more voltage than his
Yes check how many Watts your card draws. These computers wont work with any card that draws more than 180W.
when I try to put the same ram you have it is not looking up
put one stick in first, start up and see if that works, then shut down again and go on to adding the second. Also make sure you have the most up to date bios. I may do a video on this in the future as i could not get both 16GB sticks to load right on my first try, I was getting a bios error
Hi from 2020! Was able to install the Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07VPXFBHJ and normally run on my Alienware X51 R2 (I7 4770, 16 GB, 2TB) www.3dmark.com/3dm/48821096 It needs 6 to 8 pin connector adapter as well. Thanks author for this video it inspired me for the upgrade. Originally my rig had GF 670 2 GB on board, then I upgraded it to MSI GF 1060 6 GB mini www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1060-AERO-ITX-6G-OC which run perfectly well and now Asus RTX SUPER 2070 8GB www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TURBO-RTX2070S-8G-EVO/
Great to hear it was a success! Thanks for sharing!
hello..after a year of use..does it works well til today?
Yes it does still work well in 2022
Will gigabytes rtx 2070 MINI fit?
The Gigabyte RTX 2070 should have no problem physically fitting, but I don’t know if the smaller size will offset the downside of the card not being blower style.
The single fan on the 2070 mini just blows the hot air around in the already tightly packed case. You do benefit by giving more room for air in the case with the smaller card, but personally I feel more comfortable using the blower style since it forces all the GPU hot air out the back of the case.
I have a x51 r3 with a gtx 960 stock and water cooling. What card would you suggest?
Gtx 1060, rtx 2060.
@@arthurlisboa6723 would a rtx 2060 fit?
@@jeanzyy7955 GTX 1060 will fit but smaller version ( founders edition )...i tried 1050ti from MSI and nothing but 1050ti from Gigabite was ok on my X51. I think its kinda risky put in something like RTX 2060 or newer. Alienware x51 is pretty stupid for future upgrades + this small case have good potencial for overheat ( my GTX 960 2gb after 4 years ended so i changed her for 1050ti..better than nothing ) ..I will sell him later and buy Alienware Aurora R11 where is potencial for any upgrades in the future. Anyway you know...Alienware is overpriced PC.
@@arthurlisboa6723 I run a 1070 no problems.
@@desertsoldier41 the problem is the power consumption.
Is it dual 6 pin female to 1x6+1x8 pin to the GPU?
Cause it is 12 pin right ? You changed the power supply ? Cause normally it only can take Max 200watt, you can change the power supply for this pc ?
Correct. That is if you choose this brand of RTX. Other GPUs can have different pin configurations. Also you want a low profile adapter. There is a guy on eBay who sells these standard adapters, except he cuts a little notch in the side so the wire can bend sideways. This keeps you from needing to cut into your case bottom.
How did you install a 1080 when the x51 power supply is only 330w at best?
Going from a Mechanical drive to a SSD probably helped.
Buy a bigger charger maybe??
Or if 330w is the limit of charger??
@@hasnainshahzadh The Charger has an engineering limit of 330W and the power board is limited to 330W. However the mother board draws very little TDP, my drives are all SSD which draws 50W less power than the factory mechanical. I also don't use the optical drive. So it does squeak by on TDP. +/- 100w rated power draw seems to not make a difference.
@@desertsoldier41 damn bro that is a lot of knowledge for my brain😂
Let's see if a 3070 will fit
Good question...hmm... Very likely though the 3070 is too power hungery for this PSU to adequately supply. The 3000 series all around have more power demand. Just like I had to go from 1080 to 2070 (the 2080 was too power hungry) similarly we may need to go down to 3060
So is it still Good heat and power ?
Yes it is running well, no issues. Haven’t had a single shutdown even during high intensity card usage. Also heat is good. I adjusted the fan curve slightly. Maybe I can do another video to see if this is necessary.
I’m currently running a Zotac ACX 960 GTX Mini in my X51, since my 760 GTX blower stopped working a few years back, luckily Zotac replaced it free of charge as it was just in the 5 year warranty, I heard a lot of people saying not to use ACX style fan in the X51 due to heating issues, however I’ve not run into any as such and it’s slot quieter too, Now considering an ACX 2060 or 2070 MINI.
Why are you whispering?
Shhh... they might hear