The casting agency probably didn't read the scripts they just place the person. I blame her parents and her manager why weren't they on the set with a 14 yr old? What mom would leave her child on a TV set all day.
We as a society have to stop exaulting these "stars" as gurus or oracles. Egos are not barometers for truth. Actors are literally paid to entertain by suspending our disbelief.
When I was in the military I was being sexually harassed by my chief master sgt, after about a year of saying no to him; he started to threaten me with prison time, setting me up for prison. I decided to go to OSI (office of special investigation). Once the investigation started so many females came forward with similar stories, he was doing this to many other females!
@@gigapus5050happens at e ery base in every military... When there are no women to abuse the men pick on each other... Many a man a cfb trenton ont Canada were also victims of rape from other men...
Good for you for being the one to speak up. That's the problem many people stay silent and that's why these things continue to happen because nobody says anything
It is deeply disturbing that someone would discover the dead body of someone they cared about and then instead of thinking about this person and her family, instead thought only of himself and his career- and called his publicist and then went to a party. That shows his character.
never EVER. ive been an advocate for abused women actively since 1999. and a lot of the same stuff that happens to the mind in rape happens to the mind in an abusive relationship. mainly the cptsd that is acquired and of course the ptsd of a forceful encounter. anyway my hands on experience plus my education on subjects that involve abuse....there is mostly always more victims when the aggressor is just a normal citizen. pedophiles, woman beaters etc. but when it comes to the wealthy who have access and public images of positivity.....there are ALWAYS more victims. i remember when cosby was at accuser 13 and I told everyone that they should always times the number by two. so by the time it got up to 55 I still told people times it by two, maybe even three.
This case of Danny Masterson is just scratching the surface of all the sexual assault crimes going on in Scientology and not reported, not to mention the child abuse crimes. Neglect, physical abuse, sexual abuse , mental abuse, all against kids, it’s disgusting.
Agreed. I think that D. M. selected only Scientology members to victimize. Because he knew that the Church protected its ' Hollywood Stars/ High Profile Scientologists ' - pressuring those victims to stay quiet and NOT report it to the police. That's precisely what happened according to the victim's testimonies. and that eventually one of them was brave enough to break through and testify to the police. Who knows how many other victims are still out there, still being pressured to stay silent by the Church of Scientology😢
And DC, big bankers, doctors, lawyers and on and on and on. People need to start researching for themselves this is far deeper and prevalent than people think.
@tat2zz68 Yes, I won't for get Paul Bonnacci who was trafficked by the government and in a government program. He mentioned President Bush Sr would order a Black and White. Which was him and a Black boy to service him during the sex party.
Not only did Ashton prevent authorities from investigating promptly, he also left that woman lying dead. Just left her there. Absolutely no dignity or empathy. That’s cold hearted, I don’t care about his excuses. Even if you’re afraid of your career being ruined, how could you just not care?????? That’s absolutely sick and he should have been prosecuted.
@@thenaftewards4064WTF ? And ?? So you just ignore a dead body of someone you are dating ? And go to your Grammy party ?? Anyways I am having a hard time accepting it’s true Ashton actually saw her dead body because it’s so shocking and diabolical .. is it possible this is a rumour that has been exaggerated as fact ? I find this more disturbing maybe even as there ignorance about believing their friend was capable of rape .
@@jamba622I guess not when you’re a celebrity…shit like this is why I can’t even be happy about Danny’s sentencing because I simply cannot believe he will actually have to serve it and even if he does I doubt he will be serving it in the same place common criminals have to. I hate it here. :(
I remember seeing this story on some crime show. They told the story a very different way as I recall. In their version Ashton went to the door and got no answer and then left. They made it seem Like he was going on a first date with her and that he was innocent in all of this.
I forgot, Ashton saw that poor girl's body on the floor. He actually went to a party after seeing that. He only came forward after his DNA was found. How he is involved with stopping child trafficking is a red flag to me.
Do you know Ashton personally ? Remember , people who do sick stuff like Masterson get away with it for years because every person close to them is closely brainwashed into trusting the accusor and always are telling the truth on their personal character witnes of them , that is why so many young victims are not believed when they tell parents of evil deeds done by family or friends !
As a retired medical professional.........how was he even sure that she was dead? People can appear that way and still be living.....there might have been a chance to save her life.....this is unforgivable..........along with the fact that killer was free to kill again...Shame, Shame, Shame.........
Exactly. I doubt he got close enough to truly check for sounds of life. Even if she clearly had grave wounds, it doesn’t necessarily mean she was fully gone. I mean for the sake of mercy I hope she was, because I don’t want to think about her possibly lying there conscious enough and no one to help.
Her death was very brutal, many stab wounds and she was almost decapitated. She could not have been alive when/if he saw her and she would obviously have been dead. She could not have been saved.
They threw him under the bus when he wanted to leave the show and made him out to be selfish from what I remember. Now I really don’t blame him at all.
@@thenaftewards4064fez groomed mandy moore, lindsay lohan and demi lovato. he still follows danny‘s instagram too, he probably just knew these letters would be public…
This is the most depraved, self centered act of cowardice I have ever heard. To see a dead body and to call your management team? I hope this ends his sorry career.
They happen to be at a particularly weak time for scientology. They can barely enroll new people, and even when they do, they can't keep them enrolled. The press is very bad. They have really plumbed the wells of what their members are willing to donate and how many times they're willing to redo their OT levels and all their other training, including all the auditor training for auditiors (which I think they've done three times now since like 2007 or something. Maybe 2002. I'm bad with dates, sorry) and etc. etc. All that new training is just a cash grab, nothing has really changed except for it's maybe a bit more perverse than it used to be. They also have several civil legal actions pending, and have never won a jury trial. I'm not sure about most of them, but I have a feeling that Leah Remini at least is going to want to go to trial, because she's going to want her discovery, and she's not going to be all that easy to buy off with money, because she has enough to be comfortable and what she really wants is for them to stop harassing her, which she'll need an order from a judge to say "stop harassing Ms. Remini" to really ensure that that occurs. That means her case will have to flow through quite a lot of the judicial process even if it inevitably gets settled, but I don't think she's in the mood to settle. Does anyone else? Someone should try to do a real accounting of the money scientology is probably just sitting on too. I have a feeling they're getting nervous about that. The rent or ownership process of the buildings, the staff costs (amortized to minimum wage probably would be the best way to do it, but you could also add in whatever they actually get paid if people know). Pictures of the buildings, they've probably got websites or something. Some of those buildings are super empty most of the time so pictures of that would also be helpful. Basically you have to show that scientology isn't substantially involved in any charitable endeavors and it's actually just hoarding money, most visibly in real estate. That might be enough to break their tax exempt status in the US. So yeah, scientology is probably feeling a tad precarious at the moment, because they bloody well out to be.
@@michelleth22 The doctrine of Scientology tells members it is their right to go after ANYONE who speaks out against or "harms" Scientology or any of its members (and the things they consider harm is insane). I know this bc I've known several practicing scientologists, been to the centers, been proselytized to often, and read the literature. And after being in group therapy for a while with some ex-members, I discovered that I had actually gotten close to people associated with some pretty intense crimes perpetrated in the name of the organization. I had no idea before then, but all the pieces started falling into place 🤯
Danny did not apologize to Jen because he didn't think he did anything wrong. That in and of itself is a horrible realization to me. However, I am very happy he was too arrogant to apologize. This allowed him to be charged as a predator serial offender and to get the sentence he did. He deserves to spend the next 30 years in jail. He can not be trusted in society with civilized society.
Apologizing would be admitting guilt. Masterson’s legal team would not have allowed him to apologize, as it could well quash what little hope exists for an appeal - which they are so desperately attempting to find cause for.
As someone who personally knows Chrissie, she's been talking about this for a long long time. It's just great to see people finally hearing and believing her.
That is absolutely disgusting. I cannot believe he left a woman in a pool of her own blood just cause he didn’t want it linked to his career? 🤦🏼♀️ I genuinely Hope and pray this PERMANENTLY ENDS ASHTONS AND MILAS CAREERS.
Ashton and Mila stalk people online, people are making fake Mila accounts. Mila told me she is a witch. Not sure if it’s actually her because so many accounts are being made but I believe it’s a diversion to confuse people or she is in a panic. It’s crazy how Ashton career or whatever that job he had was to catch predators, but he is in fact the predator and I believe that was a diversion to keep him out of trouble. He was trying to make it look like he was a good guy doing good deeds . I see all the secrets coming out now. I’m a victim of gangstalking and they have been bothering me since last August.
Yes, their statements were absolutely insane. I never considered that Scientology might have information about Ashton and/or Mila that they used to blackmail them into writing these insane statements. But considering the things Ashton said and did in the compilation video with Danny and Mila, I’m not sure if he doesn’t actually think Danny is innocent or doesn’t see any problem with Danny being a serial rapist. For me personally I won’t watch movies starring either of them anymore. It won’t make any difference in licensing decisions SVODs make regarding movies they starred in, but I just can’t watch actors like that without constantly thinking they defended a vile person, in this case a serial rapists.
My father taught me that "The value of a man is measured by what he does when he thinks nobody is looking". Ashton and Mila wrote those horrible letters to the judge thinking it was only going to be the judge that read it and not the general public. Cowards and liars. Throw FEZ into the bunch (he has a long list of allegations against himself) and throw them all in jail.
And celebrities are rewarded for high narcissistic traits. Some is good for acting and performing, but an extreme level saps all possible empathy from a person.
Does Mila Kunas SERIOUSLY not understand that she was groomed? It's NOT ALL RIGHT for adult actors to be paired-up with minors! It seems that the adults, ALL OF THEM, involved with That 70's Show, looked the other way or condoned the predatory creepers. Mila's parents obviously didn't protect her either. Pathetic!
She probably does understand that she was groomed & is suffering the horrible consequences of this predatory and abusive behaviour. Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that she was groomed? While it’s true that the people around her either failed to protect her or closed a blind eye to what was happening - it’s definitely not pathetic, it is HORRIFIC.
@@Sdween In your comment to my comment, you asked - Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that she was groomed? I'm not certain if you are asking me this, or asking anyone reading this exchange. Therefore, I am unsure if I need to supply an answer. I believe that both pathetic and horrific can, and do, apply to the behavior and conditions involved in the childhood protection failure of Mila Kunis. The word pathetic, in each of its definitions, definitely fits here. // Take care, friend.
At the time he was considered Hollywoods next big thing. Very handsome, on a hit show and a very passionate female fanbase. I think Dude Where’s My Car was not long after this.
Sports figures, politicians, etc. We put people with money and power on pedastals. Then we hold the wrong people in lower esteem. These r the people who should be respected. Fireman, teachers, police etc. Better training and higher standards for them yes, but they should not be lower then celebrity.
how many victims haven't come forward? how many victims can't come forward? sexual predators can and do escalate into even worse crimes! how many crimes committed by DM and others have the Cult of Scientology covered up?
thats what im thinking too, 30yrs for a scientologist means that there's some hard rock evidence cause it's difficult even for "regular" people to get convicted for rape
possibly many victims trapped in scientology , cults alwasy have a thread of sexual abuse running through them , the very fact youre cut off from the outside world makes you highly likely to become a victim
If I were to find the person I supposedly love lying in their own blööd, the order would be scream, call police, put them on speaker, throw phone on floor and check for pulse/try to save them. If your first thought is "darn, how will this affect my career" you're a sociopath.
There is no law against being a self-centered s.o.b. The regret here is, late reporting a murder means the perp has more time to distance themselves from the scene and the scene and evidence ages - thus making the investigation more difficult. Not the heroic thing to do, not the honorable thing to do, and not the honest thing to do.
That’s not what happened. There is a story on 48 Hours on her death and it clearly shows that it was going to be their first date I believe. He called and left messages that he was running late. He arrived 4 hours past the original time. Knocked on her door, got no answer and assumed she had just gone out with friends. It was dark and he saw what he thought was a little wine on the floor near the front door. Didn’t think anything about it at that time. He testified at the murder trial. All this hate is not necessary. His writing a character letter was extremely poor judgment on his part but the haters are going to an extreme effort to vilify him and just my opinion but it’s wrong.
Detective here- after interviewing 100’s of ppl over the years, I’m not surprised that Ashton RAN. He didn’t report a crime, which in many states is a crime chargeable in State court. All of the detectives I worked with would have said he was a disgusting coward, & worse. He deserves NO SYMPATHY and understanding by the public. He is a despicable person.
Being scared isn’t a crime. And he already got wrapped up in the murder investigation and prosecution of a girl he met once and was supposed to go on a date with.
The fact that all Danny had to do was apologise for his rape in that meeting and it would just go away speaks volumes about Scientology. How many others are there out there who had to accept such an apology knowing it would then be brushed under the carpet and how many rapists got away with it because of their connections?
It's insanely scary how deep their corruption lies, many LA cops are involved in scientology...which is absolutely terrifying. Shelley Miscavage the leader of scientology's wife is still completely mia & how the police protect scientology & have been complicit in hiding her is so disturbing. The more I learn, the more sickening it all gets. It's An extremely terrifying cult.
We did a Dearly Departed tour in Hollywierd years ago and they passed the apartment where that young lady was murdered. The tour guide told us the story and I immediately said to my wife that made ZERO sense. Ashton is lying cause blood doesn't resemble "spilled wine". I hope one day the truth comes out about all of Ashtons history.
Looks like that day may be soon . I guess the powers that be are done with him and Mila. They have teams to make sure they do not make mistakes. These letters were so blatantly a bad idea that it makes no sense! They were purposefully “cancelled “
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
It's amazing to me how people will stand by a person who commits crimes. I've seen it firsthand in the small town I live in. This guy worked for the Sheriff's department in the jail. We all thought he was a great guy and family man. We all went to family type parties at his house. He was very involved with his kid's sports. He had a daughter from a previous marriage. The ex wife filed complaints saying that he was molesting the daughter. They didn't even investigate it properly. They talked ro him and he said she was just angry because he was trying to get full custody since he had the daughter all the time while the mom was out partying. MONTHS went by with nobody listening to this woman. She got the Texas Rangers involved and they did an independent investigation. When they searched his house they actually found PHOTOS he took of him molesting his daughter! The current wife claimed she had no idea. Once I heard about the photos; I believed he did it. Many people didn't. He cried and said he was set up and it was all lies. He told people they didn't find photos and that was a rumor. People believed him but I didn't because I believed the Ranger who said they found the photos. Months go by with him claiming innocence and saying he was going to fight it to the death. People believed him. I lost friends because I said I didn't believe him. When it came down to it he took a plea deal and claimed he didn't want to put his family through a court battle. People believed him. I didn't. If I KNEW I didn't do anything there's no way I would plead guilty to abusing a CHILD!!!! If it was something a mad parent coached them to say I would want to prove that. I wouldn't want my kid to be convinced they were abused by me if they weren't. Even after he plead guilty, people still believed his BS. It was just CRAZY to me. People wrote letters and went to court on his behalf. WOMEN!! MOTHERS!! Went to court with "Free Gabe" shirts on. I was appalled.
Yeah, Hitler for instance. Not the point here, but I couldn't resist. We really need to find something to either heal the people or keep them in check.
I'm a huge, huge fan of Cedric Bixler Zavala (chrissies husband) since At The Drive In, and now The Mars Volta. Did you know they had 2 of their dogs poisoned? Had their phones tapped. Scientology harassed them to no end. It's disgusting. There are actually songs on the new The Mars Volta album alluding to Danny Masterson. I cant stand what they did to her, him, and their family. Danny deserves everything he gets.
Deloused in the Comatorium was playing on repeat back in fall of '04 in my frrshman dormitory. It was so different, so fresh, & the lyrics so crazy. Cicatriz ESP best song imo, and the album their best work. Just changed my perspective and i wanted to concur with your opinion on Cedric and Omar.
@@DR-mq1vnshe lied when she auditioned, but when she got the role she signed legal contracts and had to reveal her actual age, so everyone knew she was 14 when filming started.
I think Mila should be allowed to speak for herself. I don't think Chrissy should be making these insinuations about her. It feels like she's outing a potential victim? Just feels yucky
As someone who had adult men treating me like that as a teenager, I really feel for Mila. I wonder just how much impact that grooming has had on her life, considering she married on of the two men grooming her.
Ashton lying to police and under oath proves that he doesn’t give a damn about the Justice system. His good buddy Danny wasn’t able to get away with lies like Ashton did. They’re both despicable.
@@beachlife4346 there's no evidence of rape. He'll get out on appeal and make a ton of money paid for by your taxes, for lost wages and wrongful imprisonment. There's literally no evidence.
OMG, you people are so damn gullible - You believe ALL this crap that these video channels spread - HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ... THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - You just take it and run with it ... WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THEIR LIFE - YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIKE TO DEAL WITH ... But you let these crappy TH-cam channels turn you against people that YOU don't even know - and spew out criticism and hatred ... JUST TO PUT MONEY INTO THE TH-cam CHANNEL CREATOR'S POCKETS ... THIS IS REALLY SICK!
I remember watching the forensic files. I remember that show where they presented the case of Ashton’s date. She was absolutely SLAUGHTERED. Ashton knew!!!
I'm in my sixties so only saw Ashston once in a while in movies but I remember watching him speak in front of a government hearing against child trafficking. My skin crawled immediately, and my bullsh*t radar went off, talk about crappy acting, it was all for show.
Christina Ricci had made a statement about Ashton and Mila and it was hard hitting. Now, actress Christina Ricci is seemingly adding gasoline to the fire, calling out those that support "predators and abusers" because of previous reputations they may have held. "People we know as ‘awesome guys’ can be predators and abusers. It’s tough to accept but we have to. If we say we support victims-women, children, men, boys - then we must be able to take this stance," she added.
I agree BUT something I'm not feeling comfortable with, is that I believe in the Judicial system. AND though by in large the majority of victims of DV or SA are women & children. Men can also be abused & the victims of DV. I followed the trial last year of the Civil Trial of Johnny Depp & Amber Heard & everyone watching, b/c it was televised, the majority of ppl & as a victim of SA & knowing a male family member who was a victim of DV, the majority of women who have been victims of DV or SA believed Johnny Depp was ACTUALLY the one being abused!!!!! So, her comments I took with a bit of grain of salt. I know with this male member of my family, I saw how men treated differently & not believed the same.
@@tammyboon6259 Two completely different cases with different circumstances. Yes there are women that abuse men but the Danny Masterson case involved drugs and s*dual assault. Also the cult of Scientology had covered up and protected Danny for years. All the women had reported the SA after it had happened. Do yourself a favor and research this case and you’ll under.
It's always scary when people post threats w/out revealing it. It makes me feel afraid that they will be taken out to prevent further information from coming out.
Unfortunately, at the time Ashton said he was waiting for the Olson twins and Hilary Duff to turn 18, many people on tv were saying similar things. It’s disgusting. I recall a late night talk show host having a countdown until Lindsay Lohan turned 18. Idk why that didn’t raise more alarms then. I’m glad it does now though. My sympathies are with all SA victims 🙏🏼
Eminem had a song called “ass like that” that had a line like “Hillary duff is not quite old enough, so, I guess I’ve never seen a *butt* like that. Maybe next year I’ll say ass, and she’ll make my peepee go badoing-oing-oing” I think she was 17 when it came out, it was a lot more pervasive throughout our media and culture than today. I hope the trend of overall reduction continues.
Like what the fuck is the deal with these countdowns? These people act like the minute a girl turns 18 they can have sex sith her whether she wato ir not. The fantasy is sick and perverted.
My husband worked with a guy who is currently sitting in prison for murdering his girlfriends son. My husband was absolutely disgusted and quickly took him off his social media. It's beyond me how Ashton and crew wrote letter of support. It's so easy to just stay out of it.
They're used to getting whatever they want, I'm sure they thought the judge would fawn over them and take their word in to account. "Well if the great actor and philanthropist Saint Ashton Kutcher thinks he's a good guy, he must be!"
Character letters are common, and makes more sense when you realize they may be hoping for a reboot of their show. Anything to protect the image and bankroll.
@@LoveLightVibration They should have stayed out of it then. More and more calling for that 70s show to be pulled from reruns because the other cast members are supporting him post conviction.
Being an ex-cop, I can tell you. If you lie to a homicide investigator it's a felony with you. Throw their investigation off anyway, shape or form by giving false information. That's a felony and it is disgusting. How you've described It but not surprising
I think the only reason they didn't go after him was that he is a celebrity. I watched a 48 hrs or something on that series of murders and it was like how Aaron described it. If I remember right, they had to go to him and say... we know you were in there, and then he admitted it.
"aS aN eX cOp AyE cAn TeLL yOu" lmfao you don't have to be an ex cop to know that information. It's common knowledge making false statements in an investigation is a felony. Do you talk a lot about being an ex cop when speaking to your fellow gas station co workers?
Just stop supporting anything related to these people, stop watching, unlike, unfollow. Send them back into the real world where they are held accountable for their behavior and actions. No ‘teams’ or attorneys on retainer or huge money moguls to bail them out or cover up the damage they cause.
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
Danny to Ashton-“ hey man,you can’t let your date being murdered get in the way of a good party”.....Ashton to Danny-“ dude you’re so right. God,you give the best life advice in the world. When they finally get around to arresting you for all your sexual assaults and you need me to write a letter of support to a judge for you just let me know”
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
Whether his first concern was his career or that people would think he was involved speaks volumes about him either way. Calling your “people” rather than the authorities seems to be how many of the wealthy and famous operate. They really do live in a different world.
How do you go to a party after you discover a dead body in a fresh crime scene ? Especially when you were dating that person. That's sick. Did he wipe the door handles and tamper with the crime scene to erase any evidence that he was there ? IMO only a narcissist would worry about their career at that moment. I feel sick. That poor girl.
He wouldn't need to erase evidence of being there. From what I gather they had been seeing each other at least a short time? So it'd be expected his prints would be on stuff like doorknobs and maybe even light switches, in the kitchen ect. If anything, going around cleaning any evidence of himself would've made him look like the KILLER because it seems people were aware he was going out with her.
@@jennatavares4695I asked that because his response to finding a dead body was atypical. If he truly was panicking and didn't want to be connected to the crime he might very well have altered the crime scene as well. Not reporting a dead body, or the dead body of someone that you're involved with is IMO very bizarre but to then go on to a party afterwards like it didn't happen seems really messed up to me. If he'd do all of that in a panic when he was phoning people for advice why not do that as well ? I'm not accusing him of doing it but I'm questioning how far he went to remove himself from the crime scene. He then went on to lie to the police about being in the house. That is not normal behavior. That is why I questioned if he was a narcissist as well. Ignoring a murder so that you don't potentially affect your job is not normal behavior. His not reporting it made him look more suspicious IMO and he's not even the killer.
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
Oh man, that speaks volumes about Ashton Kushner . What a tragedy. So much for his pure image. How can you enter a murder scene and not be profoundly affected?
@@jennifersilves4195 i no it is bloody disgraceful. They should both be be locked up. People in power in all walks of life just can't seem to not take advantage of the power they have over others and they always seem to cover each others backs. Well until it no longer suits them to do so.
WOW 😳 🤯 😲 WTF???? My opinion of Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis was already destroyed by their character letters for Danny. But for Ashton Kutcher to have discovered his murdered girlfriend and walked away is sheer insanity! Isn't that a crime in an of itself? I'm sure the statute of limitations is up for that type of crime but he should have had some serious repercussions. The fact is you can't change facts or truth to suit whatever narrative best protects your career. Now I have an even worse opinion of Ashton and I didn't think it could get worse unless he had done what Danny did. For him to turn around and walk out rather than calling the police shows what a weak and vain little bastard he is. Shocking.
The police know the whole story. I don't agree with the letters but this is getting out of hand. I don't doubt he was in shock and called for advice. If Chrissy Bixler heard that she should have called police herself
Yes, he was very ill advised and should have called 911. But, everyone he talked should have also called and didnt. If I were one of those people, I definitely wouldn't bring it up 20+ yrs later. I really can't see how this helps her...I've always believed her but am really questioning her thought process on this
I don't doubt that. And Ashton was in shock...I know I would be. I'm just really trying to understand why she's bringing this up. The right person is in jail. He didn't do it and shes admitting to knowing the situation at the time. I wouldn't want to admit to that and am not understanding her purpose. How does that serve her?
Narcissistic people can't say I'm sorry, it's just not something they can do and Danny is obviously a sociopath as well as having some strange sex addictions. I hope prison offers him the very worst it has to offer.
@@katherinebervera4790 If it involves sex it has a sexual element to it. He enjoys punching woman in the ribs right before climax so their muscles tighten in the vagina as well. The man is all kinds of crazy with all kinds of things going on.
Although, I realize Danny Masterson deserves nothing, I do feel a little sad, because he is a dead man walking. Whatever inmate does him in will get cudos, cred, with the other inmates. My sympathy & empathy to all his victims. In a weird way, his victims are Lucky. Danny Masterson could have killed them by drugging them, like what happened to Natalie Holloway in Aruba.
They sure can't. Been with one for 20 years. He can lie, cheat, and abuse me and never say he is sorry or even feel bad. He only cares when it effects him.
I was a “beer cart” girl at a golf course In 2011/2012 in NC (he was shooting a pilot nearby) and even before all this came out I told everyone that he was a real a-hole and gave me a bad vibe…not cool…so being nice to “staff” and people “below” him was not my experience at all.
I'm part of that over 40 crowd that watches you. My son is a big Moist Critical fan so this video got me. I want to say that there are a ton of people commenting on DM , saying the trial was all circumstantial , obviously didn't follow your great coverage here
Pretty much all the media outlets in Romania are reporting about the sentencing and details relating to the case, pretty accurately I'd say, and are not shy about mentioning scientology.
1.) I always wondered why Ashton was so passionate about stopping Human Trafficking. 2.) Now I know why. He's GUILTY of participating in similar stuff and he's trying to "clean" himself from his past. 3.) All that protesting against Human Trafficking was all for show.
This is my personal speculation: *One major, major aspect of Danny's life which far fewer people associate with his career is what happened after That 70's Show had lost Ashton. This is Danny's DJ/Club promoter life in LA during the 00's.* *What's interesting to me is that, from what I can tell, none of those prominent figures wrote letters, made statements, or showed up to the trial. The most noteworthy being Steve Aoki. Considered to be, by many, the world's biggest DJ. Certainly in America.* *My speculation is that Danny had MANY, MANY more victims than we know about. Possibly hundreds. Because that EDM dj club scene in LA would have been the absolute perfect hunting ground for a predator like Danny... who was already doing this to women, prior to making his nightly business partying while absolutely SURROUNDED by people on MDMA (ecstasy/molly) and excessive amounts of alcohol. Not to mention all the date gRape drugs like GHB and roofys.* *It cannot be overstated how easy it would have been for Danny to drug and assault women night after night without ANY of the victims knowing what happened.* *The women who came forward, they all had a few things in common... They knew the only man around them, after coming to the next morning, was Danny. And none of them were trying to get high or blackout drunk. So they knew they HAD to have been drugged unknowingly. None of that could have been the case with any women he took advantage of in those clubs.* Danny was not a very good DJ. But he was famous. One of the few famous people who were around in that early scene before it really got popular... And those other DJs like Aoki became major attractions around the US/World. And before the enormous EDM festivals became a common thing. Especially in the US. The point being... Danny would have gotten a LOT of attention for at least 4 or 5 years in these clubs, after That 70's Show lost it's popularity. And there... drugging and assaulting women on a nightly basis would have been like taking candy from a baby. And I have no doubt he did. The question is... how many others witnessed him doing so? *For those who don't know about Danny's involvement in that scene, I recommend you watch the Steve Aoki documentary on Netflix titled "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead". You'll quickly understand what I mean.* GG A-A-RON!!!
Even if they'd consented to use substances, the amount given may not have been fully appreciated and certainly anyone taking advantage of someone g'd out or whatnot is not getting consent.
Very interesting. I didn't know danny was ever a DJ. Did he do stuff with skrillex since they're both scientologists? Do you think aoki is a nefarious player? Thanks for bringing this up.
@@RavingKatsTHAT was my point. Any women he did that to in the clubs COULD NOT HAVE CONSENTED. But the problem is, all those women would have remembered was going to the club... getting drunk... possibly taking something like coke or x. And waking up with physical signs they had sex the night before. MAYBE they would remember Danny being there. But there would be no way for them to know who had sex with them. Or where. Or when exactly. Danny would have had access to offices, let alone bathrooms and green room areas. But the women would have no memory of any of it. All the women who came forward about Cosby KNEW they were alone with him. The three Jane Doe's (and others not involved in the case) KNEW they were alone with Danny. None of those women he could have EASILY drugged by the DJ booth would know anything after that much GHB and booze. I'm serious, it could literally be hundreds. But we'll never know. Luckily he can't do that to anyone again. *Scientology is responsible for ANYONE he did that to after they first discovered he was gRaping women 20+ years ago. For that alone, they should have every dollar taken from them. And every facility closed. Permanently.*
If I had a friend arrested for R, I would 100% be distraught and lock myself in my room questioning my life choices, wondering if I was safe, and crying as I painstakingly went over all our interactions wondering if I would've been next. I don't understand how they were able to just breeze past it.
I don’t know why we should be surprised that both of these men are sick. The fact that they both kept making extremely disgusting, predatory comments actions towards Mila who was still a CHILD is proof they are terrible people. Anyone who allows that to happen and didn’t stand up against it should be ashamed. This is how groomers and predators keep hurting children and young women. Because most people won’t say anything against it while it’s happening.
Unfortunately it’s very common in young men , especially in top positions in athletics and in Hollywood . That doesn’t make it acceptable - but these people make it part of the culture and the sell outs accept it because they want their fame .
Snap out of it people. What is important here is being diverted. That so called church is literally protecting criminals and allow them to continue. Why are you attacking other people I am mean shameful. Look they did not see him do this right? What the hell. The only ones that should be saying he did this is the victims. Man. Stop bullying people. How to crazy do you have to be to attack somebody that wasn't there when the people were raped wake up. So now any friends or family of a criminal is gonna be taken down too? You people are seriously ill. Like I like what just happened this man got convicted of something no one else saw and what are people doing. Defend his character. They knew nothing but good. You need to apologize to everyone involved. No one but God these women and him know what happened. Shame on you all. And make sure all facts are correct. Cause you are trying tp ruin lives right????
Wrong subject glad so many are being lead afar. Truly tragic for all women and members, children of this cult. I truly hope women are not misusing this power. Not saying in this case but it does happen.
WoW. Ashton Kutcher may actually be worse than Tom Cruise. Thank you for the eye opener Chrissie and A-Aron. Ashton takes cover your a$$ to a whole NEW level.
If you asked neighbours about BTK, they said he was a nice guy. A tad authoritarian, but no one thought he was a serial killer. The Ashton Mila “apology” was so tone deaf, I’m surprised their PR teams thought this was a good idea. They saw what Danny Masterson wanted them to see.
Thank you for your information on this. I had previously only heard the narrative from, Ashton's perspective; where he bad stated he'd only rang the doorbell & saw what he thought was wine but was actually blood. Knowing that he went into the house & saw her dead, makes me see everything in a new light. It's interesting that Ashton is such a big name in fighting against sex trafficking & such crimes, while he's defending Danny's horrendous crimes...my Mom is a doctor worked high up for Purdue Pharma from 1999-2007ish, they were the #1 contributer for a partnership for a drug free america, while single handedly contributing to the creation of an opiod, & later heroin epidemic. It just makes me feel like its a parallel, like Ashton is potentially involved in sex trafficking, while publicly showing a front where he's so against it ; just to create a revolving door of problem & solution... completely fucked.
Interesting comment comparing the two. While watching "Going Clear," I kept thinking those big celebratory ceremonies with David Miscavige at Scientology are very much like the Purdue Pharma celebrations with Richard Sackler. Lots and lots of narcissistic people out there
EXACTLY!!!! I suddenly thought about the youngest have a Dad, & he DID NOT walk out on him!!!! Aaron had him on!!!! I recall he was great & every watching thought this of him. BUT they DISCONNECTED FROM HIM all b/c of this F#+K UP CULT!!!!
Facts. Knowledge is power. Scientology is such a scary, evil, powerful cult. Although the true fold way to hopefully bring them to an end is to spread knowledge & awareness.
You gave props to charlie! He's a mainstay on TH-cam with a massive audience. So great to see you give him the credit he deserves. Good on you, A-a-ron!
Sociopaths and psychopaths are incapable of feeling remorse. There's no point in harping on the idea of him ever apologizing for something he will never feel sorry for. He isn't capable of feeling what you want him to feel.
@@cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338 Isnt it possible he was an evil SOB before, had some kind of big epiphany, and changed and became good as he got old? I was kind of a b----tch when I was younger and now I am pretty different. I am NOT saying he shoudl not pay by going to prison but maybe a person can be bad and then good later on? I mean not true sociopaths or psychopaths ... but maybe some??
I used to think Ashton was a good person because he has a tech firm that finds and helps capture child (you-know-whats). But now I am wondering whether that is just an elaborate way to legally cover his perversions.
The actor chyler Leigh (Lexie from greys anatomy) was forced to film a kissing scene with her own real life brother in a movie. It was not just a quick peck. She was 15
Didn't think my opinion of the rapist could be any lower, until I was reading that he told some child friend of one of the JD's daughters to tell the daughter that he, the rapist, was actually not a rapist! And now hearing how he essentially got a meeting with her just to taunt and humiliate her about
What happened to these women is horrible. They are brave women who stood up and had a voice. When it comes to Ashton, I do believe in a way it's blackmail. I wouldn't be surprised if more things get brought up about him in the future. I do wonder how many actors in scientology wrote a letter on behalf of Danny.
@@bonnielucas1941YEP!!!! He's gonna read them all!!! He just hadn't decided on his family. I actually ended up hearing some of his family members by someone I never knew. I could tell he was judging especially his little sister. I struggle with that. I agree with Aaron its their brother. ( 1/2 brother) I actually forgot that DM step dad did NOT desert them, they cut ties with him, and DISOWNED him cuz he didn't believe in Scientology' anymore!!!! Aaron somehow had him on!!!! He seemed like such a good dad!!!!! It's sick, if you think the 2 youngest have a GREAT DAD!!!! But they considered him a SP, & now have their older brother on this pedestal, cuz they don't get the monster he could be!!!!! That's where I say SHAME ON DM's Mom & SHAME ON SCIENTOLOGY!!!!! It's got to be UTTERLY DISMANTLED!!!!!!!
My daughter is 24 and watches moist crit, it was funny you showed his clip. I think its disingenuous for Ashton to state DM had such a great character. I worked with an IT guy who turned out to be a pedophile and we all found out when we saw the news. We didn't know the details of what he did but we all thought he had problems/issues that made him not a good person. I really think Ashton knew more even if he didn't know the specifics. You cant work, party and travel with a guy and not know more about his bad behavior.
I follow true crime and have for many years. The murder of the young lady, who had a date with Ashton, has been the subject of many many youtube true crime channels. It has never been told or explained the way aaron did. It's always been said that Ashton went to pick her up for an awards show date. When she never came to the door, Ashton looked in her window and saw a red stain that he said he thought was a red wine stain. So It's very interesting to learn that he indeed entered her home. Crazy!
OMG, you people are so damn gullible - You believe ALL this crap that these video channels spread - HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ... THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - You just take it and run with it ... WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THEIR LIFE - YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIKE TO DEAL WITH ... But you let these crappy TH-cam channels turn you against people that YOU don't even know - and spew out criticism and hatred ... JUST TO PUT MONEY INTO THE TH-cam CHANNEL CREATOR'S POCKETS ... THIS IS REALLY SICK!
To be clear: There is one source for this claim. So it has never been "told this way" because it is an unproven theory. Ms. Bixler certainly has some credibility, so I'm not saying we should dismiss it. But we shouldn't believe it to be true just yet, either.
@@jonaskeller6399 I looked up the floor plan and location of the body from the trial. I don’t know how Ashton missed her body. She was in a direct line from the front window.
Michele I can back up your comment. I also have been watching and reading about true crime for decades and I heard the story just as you did…no mention of Ashton entering the dead girl’s apartment. If this is true then it was pretty despicable of him not to call the police. I still would like this verified by a law enforcement source.
I can only imagine the dirt JD3 has on all of them. And as I said on your apology video, the only way their little PR stunt could've been a worse nonapology apology video is if they'd broken out the ukelele to sing a song about their nonapology apology. Also what kind of person can discover a dead body, or even just blood stains, and say nothing let alone go to a party immediately after the fact?! Someone who's not playing with a full deck themselves is the only conclusion I can make of it.
Aside from the fact that you have to be at a very specific level of a$$hole to do what he did and just act like he didn't see anything, what's the bet he was high on something at the time and didn't want to risk the cops finding out that as well.
@@supaflyzaand it wasn't a stranger, but his GIRLFRIEND or at least his DATE. And his first instinct was, "I was never here, protect me," instead of calling the cops or an ambulance? Innocent people aren't worried about how it looks or makes them look.
The Poor woman who died probably thought when she accepted a date with Ashton; that he respected her and she could trust him. Imagine if she knew what he did when he found her???
Because he didn’t love her, clearly. He was more concerned with not being questioned or tied to something that intense. Anyone who can walk away knowing they should do the right thing, is clearly not mentally sound. He should have been charged with obstruction, lying under oath, etc. He didn’t even think about how her family would feel if they found out he saw her and chose to do nothing. She deserved better.
I am very glad these women are getting some semblance of justice. With that said, i do not understand why there is so much surprise that this happened. Rape happens all of the time in Hollywood, from what i have been able to tell. The fact that Scientology is involved is a huge interest factor, and i do believe that organization needs to be obliterated. But when you put a bunch of overpriveleged kids together, then they are held in this incredibly high esteem, and treated like royalty, in my opinion, tells volumes about our society and how it has sunken to the lowest level.
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
I’m so disgusted and disappointed in these people. It’s so gross that they supported this guy. It’s also giving crazy vibes that Ashton is/was this big celeb anti child trafficking spokesperson and then all this. Insane
Anytime you see someone virtue signaling as hard as Ashton Kutcher, especially for a problem as nonexistent as 'child sex trafficking' is either hiding some shit or expressing a pathology.
NOT nonexistent-some kids are kidnapped and used and murders by kidnappers. Some trafficked from their home by a daily memzners. More likely is sexual abuse by a family member.
My comment is... why isn't anyone questioning a casting system that would cast a 14 year to make out with an adult?
The casting agency probably didn't read the scripts they just place the person. I blame her parents and her manager why weren't they on the set with a 14 yr old? What mom would leave her child on a TV set all day.
Yeah and also it's a great example of how much intimacy coordinators are needed on set.
Near that time didn't Aston take up with the much older Demi Moore? ...seemed weird
not to defend but she lied about her age saying that she was 16 IIRC
@@kadawg1316 is still a minor
We as a society have to stop exaulting these "stars" as gurus or oracles. Egos are not barometers for truth. Actors are literally paid to entertain by suspending our disbelief.
Perfectly stated. 👍
Based and necessary
Bingo. But it'll never happen. I believe small town ppl that grow up essentially living their entire lives in 1 area are easily duped IMHO.
You’ve spoken the truth!!! Actors are not gods
The population is too stupid to think for themselves.
When I was in the military I was being sexually harassed by my chief master sgt, after about a year of saying no to him; he started to threaten me with prison time, setting me up for prison. I decided to go to OSI (office of special investigation). Once the investigation started so many females came forward with similar stories, he was doing this to many other females!
That's sick and to think he got away with it for who knows how long and how many young women probably never came forward.
@@gigapus5050happens at e ery base in every military...
When there are no women to abuse the men pick on each other...
Many a man a cfb trenton ont Canada were also victims of rape from other men...
So what happened to him promoted?
Rip vanessa Guillen
Good for you for being the one to speak up. That's the problem many people stay silent and that's why these things continue to happen because nobody says anything
It is deeply disturbing that someone would discover the dead body of someone they cared about and then instead of thinking about this person and her family, instead thought only of himself and his career- and called his publicist and then went to a party. That shows his character.
I have never, and will never watch A.K. in any movie, or tv show, I'll spend my money on better things.
Yes, pretty shocking!
El Bingo!
@@js5787
You are not missing out on much. He is a terrible actor.
@@harleyadams4551 I agree! Happy New Year!
We humans need to break the cycle of celebrity worship, these people are not role models and clearly have sold their souls for fame.
False idols
Yes, so right! It’s ridiculous!
u r so on point
They’re not even good actors at all.
THANK YOU FOR STANDING ON THIS LINE WITH ME DAVIDBROWN!
If you are someone’s victim, never assume you’re the only one.
Sad but true.
💯 agree!!
Andy, I assume you meant aren’t
never EVER. ive been an advocate for abused women actively since 1999. and a lot of the same stuff that happens to the mind in rape happens to the mind in an abusive relationship. mainly the cptsd that is acquired and of course the ptsd of a forceful encounter. anyway my hands on experience plus my education on subjects that involve abuse....there is mostly always more victims when the aggressor is just a normal citizen. pedophiles, woman beaters etc. but when it comes to the wealthy who have access and public images of positivity.....there are ALWAYS more victims. i remember when cosby was at accuser 13 and I told everyone that they should always times the number by two. so by the time it got up to 55 I still told people times it by two, maybe even three.
Isn't that the saddest truth.
This case of Danny Masterson is just scratching the surface of all the sexual assault crimes going on in Scientology and not reported, not to mention the child abuse crimes. Neglect, physical abuse, sexual abuse , mental abuse, all against kids, it’s disgusting.
Agreed. I think that D. M. selected only Scientology members to victimize. Because he knew that the Church protected its ' Hollywood Stars/ High Profile Scientologists ' - pressuring those victims to stay quiet and NOT report it to the police.
That's precisely what happened according to the victim's testimonies. and that eventually one of them was brave enough to break through and testify to the police.
Who knows how many other victims are still out there, still being pressured to stay silent by the Church of Scientology😢
Aand hollyturrd-DONT 4GET THAT cult,,,,
And DC, big bankers, doctors, lawyers and on and on and on. People need to start researching for themselves this is far deeper and prevalent than people think.
@tat2zz68 Yes, I won't for get Paul Bonnacci who was trafficked by the government and in a government program. He mentioned President Bush Sr would order a Black and White. Which was him and a Black boy to service him during the sex party.
Not just Scientology but HOLLYWOOD
Why is running away from a crime scene is not a crime in itself? Like hindering police work? A call should be obligatory 😮
In some states it is illegal to discover a body and NOT report it
I believew it is legally required.
Ashton didn't KNOW it was a crime scene. Get your facts straight.
@@starmom4497oh yeah, he thought he saw "spilled wine" on the floor 😂
Not only did Ashton prevent authorities from investigating promptly, he also left that woman lying dead. Just left her there. Absolutely no dignity or empathy. That’s cold hearted, I don’t care about his excuses. Even if you’re afraid of your career being ruined, how could you just not care?????? That’s absolutely sick and he should have been prosecuted.
She was stabbed to death.
@@thenaftewards4064 and ?he should have called the police.No excuses and no justifying it either
@@thenaftewards4064WTF ? And ?? So you just ignore a dead body of someone you are dating ? And go to your Grammy party ?? Anyways I am having a hard time accepting it’s true Ashton actually saw her dead body because it’s so shocking and diabolical .. is it possible this is a rumour that has been exaggerated as fact ? I find this more disturbing maybe even as there ignorance about believing their friend was capable of rape .
Right he could have called the police anonymously
@UCXFVevimcO1tEMWEDlx841gI believe he admitted to seeing wine stains through the window and testified in court.
The story about the ex girlfriend, leaving her body and going to a party is even worse than writting a letter
It seems that not reporting a body you presumed was dead to authorities would be a crime
@@jamba622I guess not when you’re a celebrity…shit like this is why I can’t even be happy about Danny’s sentencing because I simply cannot believe he will actually have to serve it and even if he does I doubt he will be serving it in the same place common criminals have to. I hate it here. :(
@@jamba622 Not in California unless one is in a profession subject to mandatory reporting which Ashton is not.
TOTALLY.
I remember seeing this story on some crime show. They told the story a very different way as I recall. In their version Ashton went to the door and got no answer and then left. They made it seem Like he was going on a first date with her and that he was innocent in all of this.
I forgot, Ashton saw that poor girl's body on the floor. He actually went to a party after seeing that. He only came forward after his DNA was found. How he is involved with stopping child trafficking is a red flag to me.
Guilt.
Steven... allegedly...holy shit! He went to a party? Holy shit.
It’s truly astonishing.
Didnt Ashton make out with 14 year old Mila Kunis ?
@@thenaftewards4064 also, Rapey Masterson paid him 10 or 20$ to french her in their kiss scene
Only a true sociopath could do what Ashton did. Everything about him and his image is a total lie.
Do you know Ashton personally ? Remember , people who do sick stuff like Masterson get away with it for years because every person close to them is closely brainwashed into trusting the accusor and always are telling the truth on their personal character witnes of them , that is why so many young victims are not believed when they tell parents of evil deeds done by family or friends !
As a retired medical professional.........how was he even sure that she was dead? People can appear that way and still be living.....there might have been a chance to save her life.....this is unforgivable..........along with the fact that killer was free to kill again...Shame, Shame, Shame.........
Seriously? We are going to insinuate he killed that girl he found because he wrote a letter? Get the fck outta here 😂
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. You speculate and that's a terribly stupid thing to do.
Exactly. I doubt he got close enough to truly check for sounds of life. Even if she clearly had grave wounds, it doesn’t necessarily mean she was fully gone. I mean for the sake of mercy I hope she was, because I don’t want to think about her possibly lying there conscious enough and no one to help.
Did he think she was drunk/passed out/asleep?
Her death was very brutal, many stab wounds and she was almost decapitated. She could not have been alive when/if he saw her and she would obviously have been dead. She could not have been saved.
meanwhile topher grace‘s wife put out a statement in support of the victims. we all know who the most sane one on that set was.
Yep, that's why Topher never was never part of their "click" while they were filming TSS.
@@amyburton6640exactly, he wasn’t a degenerate
They threw him under the bus when he wanted to leave the show and made him out to be selfish from what I remember. Now I really don’t blame him at all.
What about Fez?
@@thenaftewards4064fez groomed mandy moore, lindsay lohan and demi lovato. he still follows danny‘s instagram too, he probably just knew these letters would be public…
I'm tired of society putting these celebrities on pedestals like they are superhuman and so deserving of our praise.
They are no different than us.
In fact most of us are better people than they are.
Different than you! Not me! Speak for yourself not us!
@@veilliftedbut I am he and you are we and he's a she and we are all two feathers.
We are all one mind.
😂😂😂
How is Ashton not in jail for leaving that dead girl on the floor and not reporting it??!?! Surely that is a crime
Of course. But he's a well connected celebrity with certain friends in the right places.
Then they should be in jail too!
This is the most depraved, self centered act of cowardice I have ever heard. To see a dead body and to call your management team? I hope this ends his sorry career.
Does he even still have a career?
He does call the police when he realizes his fingerprints are on the door. True coward. I didn’t even know about this. The media covered it up.
@rebeccaforbes8396 I never liked him or his one-note acting. His movies suck.
Someone he was supposed to care about… the narcissism is off the charts to do that.
What career?
Knowing how Scientology comes after people, you’re a very brave man to expose such a cult. Well done young man… keep safe.
THAT IS TRUE.
They come after there own not outsiders
They happen to be at a particularly weak time for scientology. They can barely enroll new people, and even when they do, they can't keep them enrolled. The press is very bad. They have really plumbed the wells of what their members are willing to donate and how many times they're willing to redo their OT levels and all their other training, including all the auditor training for auditiors (which I think they've done three times now since like 2007 or something. Maybe 2002. I'm bad with dates, sorry) and etc. etc. All that new training is just a cash grab, nothing has really changed except for it's maybe a bit more perverse than it used to be.
They also have several civil legal actions pending, and have never won a jury trial. I'm not sure about most of them, but I have a feeling that Leah Remini at least is going to want to go to trial, because she's going to want her discovery, and she's not going to be all that easy to buy off with money, because she has enough to be comfortable and what she really wants is for them to stop harassing her, which she'll need an order from a judge to say "stop harassing Ms. Remini" to really ensure that that occurs. That means her case will have to flow through quite a lot of the judicial process even if it inevitably gets settled, but I don't think she's in the mood to settle. Does anyone else?
Someone should try to do a real accounting of the money scientology is probably just sitting on too. I have a feeling they're getting nervous about that. The rent or ownership process of the buildings, the staff costs (amortized to minimum wage probably would be the best way to do it, but you could also add in whatever they actually get paid if people know). Pictures of the buildings, they've probably got websites or something. Some of those buildings are super empty most of the time so pictures of that would also be helpful. Basically you have to show that scientology isn't substantially involved in any charitable endeavors and it's actually just hoarding money, most visibly in real estate. That might be enough to break their tax exempt status in the US.
So yeah, scientology is probably feeling a tad precarious at the moment, because they bloody well out to be.
@@michelleth22 The doctrine of Scientology tells members it is their right to go after ANYONE who speaks out against or "harms" Scientology or any of its members (and the things they consider harm is insane). I know this bc I've known several practicing scientologists, been to the centers, been proselytized to often, and read the literature. And after being in group therapy for a while with some ex-members, I discovered that I had actually gotten close to people associated with some pretty intense crimes perpetrated in the name of the organization. I had no idea before then, but all the pieces started falling into place 🤯
I’m pretty sure this man is a former Scientologist, yes? The name of his channel indicates that.
Danny did not apologize to Jen because he didn't think he did anything wrong. That in and of itself is a horrible realization to me. However, I am very happy he was too arrogant to apologize. This allowed him to be charged as a predator serial offender and to get the sentence he did. He deserves to spend the next 30 years in jail. He can not be trusted in society with civilized society.
Entitled people are horrible
And Ashton doesn’t that Danny did anything wrong. Birds of a feather
He sounds like a narcissistic psychopath.
Entitled arrogant brats
Apologizing would be admitting guilt. Masterson’s legal team would not have allowed him to apologize, as it could well quash what little hope exists for an appeal - which they are so desperately attempting to find cause for.
Ashtons lack of courage ABSOLUTELY resulted in another murder.
Something wrong with our society that we shift so much money to these unsavory people when so many good people in our society get essentially ignored.
As someone who personally knows Chrissie, she's been talking about this for a long long time. It's just great to see people finally hearing and believing her.
Thank you so much for supporting Danny’s victims and shouting this out. It’s truly the only way we can let them see the support that exists!
That is absolutely disgusting. I cannot believe he left a woman in a pool of her own blood just cause he didn’t want it linked to his career? 🤦🏼♀️
I genuinely Hope and pray this PERMANENTLY ENDS ASHTONS AND MILAS CAREERS.
Content of his character?? ZERO👎🏼
Ashton and Mila stalk people online, people are making fake Mila accounts. Mila told me she is a witch. Not sure if it’s actually her because so many accounts are being made but I believe it’s a diversion to confuse people or she is in a panic. It’s crazy how Ashton career or whatever that job he had was to catch predators, but he is in fact the predator and I believe that was a diversion to keep him out of trouble. He was trying to make it look like he was a good guy doing good deeds . I see all the secrets coming out now. I’m a victim of gangstalking and they have been bothering me since last August.
Yes, their statements were absolutely insane. I never considered that Scientology might have information about Ashton and/or Mila that they used to blackmail them into writing these insane statements.
But considering the things Ashton said and did in the compilation video with Danny and Mila, I’m not sure if he doesn’t actually think Danny is innocent or doesn’t see any problem with Danny being a serial rapist.
For me personally I won’t watch movies starring either of them anymore. It won’t make any difference in licensing decisions SVODs make regarding movies they starred in, but I just can’t watch actors like that without constantly thinking they defended a vile person, in this case a serial rapists.
My father taught me that "The value of a man is measured by what he does when he thinks nobody is looking". Ashton and Mila wrote those horrible letters to the judge thinking it was only going to be the judge that read it and not the general public. Cowards and liars. Throw FEZ into the bunch (he has a long list of allegations against himself) and throw them all in jail.
I love this lesson your Father learned you and I will take it with me forever👍😉
I love that it turns out Topher was the only normal one. Maybe Laura too I guess, don't really know much about her.
I wonder what Laura Prepon experienced..
@@rodbelding9523She was also a Scientologist until a few years ago.
EXACTLY!!!!! I was taught the same thing by my late Dad!!!! ♥️
For those asking how a person can see a dead body and not report it…narcissist can do that. Worrying about themselves is their first and only thought.
💯Agree and a Sociopath
A guy like this lawyers up at the drop of a hat. Wait till he sees what it's like to lose everything.
And celebrities are rewarded for high narcissistic traits. Some is good for acting and performing, but an extreme level saps all possible empathy from a person.
Omg agree 100%
Well it is 2023... be pretty scary to report a dead body to the cops of today!
Shocking . Most people would be traumatized from finding a murdered person, especially a friend or someone they were dating.
Does Mila Kunas SERIOUSLY not understand that she was groomed? It's NOT ALL RIGHT for adult actors to be paired-up with minors! It seems that the adults, ALL OF THEM, involved with That 70's Show, looked the other way or condoned the predatory creepers. Mila's parents obviously didn't protect her either. Pathetic!
She probably does understand that she was groomed & is suffering the horrible consequences of this predatory and abusive behaviour.
Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that she was groomed?
While it’s true that the people around her either failed to protect her or closed a blind eye to what was happening - it’s definitely not pathetic, it is HORRIFIC.
No she wasn’t . He was married to Demi for yrs. This is why lives are ruined because of ppl like you .
@@Sdween In your comment to my comment, you asked - Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that she was groomed? I'm not certain if you are asking me this, or asking anyone reading this exchange. Therefore, I am unsure if I need to supply an answer.
I believe that both pathetic and horrific can, and do, apply to the behavior and conditions involved in the childhood protection failure of Mila Kunis. The word pathetic, in each of its definitions, definitely fits here. // Take care, friend.
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Yeah...Okaaaay, Troll Doll
@@jaxsmom8542 Hollywood are the leaders of canceling people and now it seems they are the ones being canceled.
Props to the judge for not accepting the letters under seal!
Ashton Kutcher thought calling the cops from a murder scene would be "detrimental" to his career... WHAT career???
At the time he was considered Hollywoods next big thing. Very handsome, on a hit show and a very passionate female fanbase. I think Dude Where’s My Car was not long after this.
Exactly-it is totally gone now!!!
😂😂
He was very popular in the 2000s.
I saw what I’m about to say a few times.. but these “celebrities” should not have so much power/money. We should stop idolizing actors/musicians etc.
Sports figures, politicians, etc. We put people with money and power on pedastals. Then we hold the wrong people in lower esteem. These r the people who should be respected. Fireman, teachers, police etc. Better training and higher standards for them yes, but they should not be lower then celebrity.
how many victims haven't come forward?
how many victims can't come forward?
sexual predators can and do escalate into even worse crimes!
how many crimes committed by DM and others have the Cult of Scientology covered up?
thats what im thinking too, 30yrs for a scientologist means that there's some hard rock evidence cause it's difficult even for "regular" people to get convicted for rape
It would probably terrify us to know.
possibly many victims trapped in scientology , cults alwasy have a thread of sexual abuse running through them , the very fact youre cut off from the outside world makes you highly likely to become a victim
If I were to find the person I supposedly love lying in their own blööd, the order would be scream, call police, put them on speaker, throw phone on floor and check for pulse/try to save them. If your first thought is "darn, how will this affect my career" you're a sociopath.
Well said
There is no law against being a self-centered s.o.b. The regret here is, late reporting a murder means the perp has more time to distance themselves from the scene and the scene and evidence ages - thus making the investigation more difficult. Not the heroic thing to do, not the honorable thing to do, and not the honest thing to do.
Or the perpetrator.
That’s not what happened. There is a story on 48 Hours on her death and it clearly shows that it was going to be their first date I believe. He called and left messages that he was running late. He arrived 4 hours past the original time. Knocked on her door, got no answer and assumed she had just gone out with friends. It was dark and he saw what he thought was a little wine on the floor near the front door. Didn’t think anything about it at that time. He testified at the murder trial. All this hate is not necessary. His writing a character letter was extremely poor judgment on his part but the haters are going to an extreme effort to vilify him and just my opinion but it’s wrong.
@@nancyankrom3803 I'm pretty sure that's the lie she knows the truth about.
Detective here- after interviewing 100’s of ppl over the years, I’m not surprised that Ashton RAN. He didn’t report a crime, which in many states is a crime chargeable in State court. All of the detectives I worked with would have said he was a disgusting coward, & worse. He deserves NO SYMPATHY and understanding by the public. He is a despicable person.
When young people stumble upon bodies of loved ones that were just murdered do they always call the police in your experience
Being scared isn’t a crime.
And he already got wrapped up in the murder investigation and prosecution of a girl he met once and was supposed to go on a date with.
This is false narrative. He didn’t know she was dead.
@@SpecterWSA It's kind of a thing.
@@kathismith7441 Actually he went inside the house, saw the 🩸 blood, knew she was dead. And left, did nothing, but look out for himself.
So for 6 years Chrissie didn't know he was a pervert? Riiiiight.
"Mentioning Scientology in the real world is like mentioning. Voldemort in Harry Potter's world."
The fact that all Danny had to do was apologise for his rape in that meeting and it would just go away speaks volumes about Scientology. How many others are there out there who had to accept such an apology knowing it would then be brushed under the carpet and how many rapists got away with it because of their connections?
Hypocrite religion. Catholics rotate pedophile priest with a smile on their face etc etc etc
It's insanely scary how deep their corruption lies, many LA cops are involved in scientology...which is absolutely terrifying. Shelley Miscavage the leader of scientology's wife is still completely mia & how the police protect scientology & have been complicit in hiding her is so disturbing. The more I learn, the more sickening it all gets. It's An extremely terrifying cult.
SCIENTOLOGY, almost ( ? ) as BAD as CHRISTIANITY
🤨😡
There’s plenty if you watch Aftermath with Leah reminy
I reckon there have to be big carpets in Scientology.
We did a Dearly Departed tour in Hollywierd years ago and they passed the apartment where that young lady was murdered. The tour guide told us the story and I immediately said to my wife that made ZERO sense. Ashton is lying cause blood doesn't resemble "spilled wine". I hope one day the truth comes out about all of Ashtons history.
Looks like that day may be soon . I guess the powers that be are done with him and Mila. They have teams to make sure they do not make mistakes. These letters were so blatantly a bad idea that it makes no sense! They were purposefully “cancelled “
Doesn't it look almost black?!?! I'm guessing tbh?!?!
@tammyboon6259 it depends on how fresh it is. If it's new it's bright red, if it's dried/old it's a deep burgundy/brown.
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
It's amazing to me how people will stand by a person who commits crimes. I've seen it firsthand in the small town I live in. This guy worked for the Sheriff's department in the jail. We all thought he was a great guy and family man. We all went to family type parties at his house. He was very involved with his kid's sports. He had a daughter from a previous marriage. The ex wife filed complaints saying that he was molesting the daughter. They didn't even investigate it properly. They talked ro him and he said she was just angry because he was trying to get full custody since he had the daughter all the time while the mom was out partying. MONTHS went by with nobody listening to this woman. She got the Texas Rangers involved and they did an independent investigation. When they searched his house they actually found PHOTOS he took of him molesting his daughter! The current wife claimed she had no idea. Once I heard about the photos; I believed he did it. Many people didn't. He cried and said he was set up and it was all lies. He told people they didn't find photos and that was a rumor. People believed him but I didn't because I believed the Ranger who said they found the photos. Months go by with him claiming innocence and saying he was going to fight it to the death. People believed him. I lost friends because I said I didn't believe him. When it came down to it he took a plea deal and claimed he didn't want to put his family through a court battle. People believed him. I didn't. If I KNEW I didn't do anything there's no way I would plead guilty to abusing a CHILD!!!! If it was something a mad parent coached them to say I would want to prove that. I wouldn't want my kid to be convinced they were abused by me if they weren't. Even after he plead guilty, people still believed his BS. It was just CRAZY to me. People wrote letters and went to court on his behalf. WOMEN!! MOTHERS!! Went to court with "Free Gabe" shirts on. I was appalled.
Yes, normal law abiding citizens should realize that criminals around them will defend other criminals, and enjoy lying to your face about it.
Great go fight more crime if you didn’t stop listening to more
The world we live in is sickening sometimes...
Yeah, Hitler for instance. Not the point here, but I couldn't resist. We really need to find something to either heal the people or keep them in check.
Absolutely astounding what the sheeple will listen to and abide by I wish they'd remove warning labels. This kind of people are sickness to society
I'm a huge, huge fan of Cedric Bixler Zavala (chrissies husband) since At The Drive In, and now The Mars Volta. Did you know they had 2 of their dogs poisoned? Had their phones tapped. Scientology harassed them to no end. It's disgusting. There are actually songs on the new The Mars Volta album alluding to Danny Masterson. I cant stand what they did to her, him, and their family. Danny deserves everything he gets.
Wow I uses to love the Mars Volta. I forgot about them. They're so good live hey.
Deloused in the Comatorium was playing on repeat back in fall of '04 in my frrshman dormitory. It was so different, so fresh, & the lyrics so crazy. Cicatriz ESP best song imo, and the album their best work. Just changed my perspective and i wanted to concur with your opinion on Cedric and Omar.
Ashton saying Danny is one of the few people he would trust to leave his kids with has me questioning his kids’ safety now too tbh.
Thinking the same
This guy..................I swear this guy I never knew he was like that!!
His kids? you mean Deme's three young daughters? Am I so confused, or ??
I feel like an overlooked part of all of this is that Mila was 14 during 70s Show and Danny and Ashton were both bragging about "giving her tongue.'
While legal adults.
Eww 🤮
also overlooked that wilmer is a serial groomer (mandy moore, lindsay lohan, demi lovato)
@@DR-mq1vnshe lied when she auditioned, but when she got the role she signed legal contracts and had to reveal her actual age, so everyone knew she was 14 when filming started.
I think Mila should be allowed to speak for herself. I don't think Chrissy should be making these insinuations about her. It feels like she's outing a potential victim? Just feels yucky
As someone who had adult men treating me like that as a teenager, I really feel for Mila. I wonder just how much impact that grooming has had on her life, considering she married on of the two men grooming her.
She was a victim as a child. Now she is part of the problem
@@fraterjrwell said!
that grooming show
Stop the cap
Yup! when you get "groomed" you are a sitting duck. This is because of the line that was crossed. It is a deep psychological thing.
Ashton lying to police and under oath proves that he doesn’t give a damn about the Justice system. His good buddy Danny wasn’t able to get away with lies like Ashton did. They’re both despicable.
Maybe the police will pay him a visit
Any evidence Danny committed those rapes? He's going to win his appeal.
He spoke out about sex trafficing yet defends a Rapist.😅😅😅😅
@@beachlife4346 there's no evidence of rape. He'll get out on appeal and make a ton of money paid for by your taxes, for lost wages and wrongful imprisonment. There's literally no evidence.
@@user-ti5rb1mx5x It's the image of it that I am speaking of. Everything is just that...in Hollywood. It's all smoke and mirrors.
The feeling I've always had about Ashton Kutcher has finally been validated.
I feel the same way. He's always given me a weird feeling.
well demi moore had some interesting things to say about him in her book (he sllegedly encouraged her to break her sobriety for one)
@@miraza. Wow. A well-rounded douche.
no it hasnt
@@koryjuhl7603 Yes, it has.
Danny definitely knows something about Ashton and Mila. I don't believe a second that they actually care about stopping pedophiles.
I agree with you 100%. Smokescreen
OMG, you people are so damn gullible - You believe ALL this crap that these video channels spread - HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ... THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - You just take it and run with it ... WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THEIR LIFE - YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIKE TO DEAL WITH ... But you let these crappy TH-cam channels turn you against people that YOU don't even know - and spew out criticism and hatred ... JUST TO PUT MONEY INTO THE TH-cam CHANNEL CREATOR'S POCKETS ... THIS IS REALLY SICK!
Some narcissistic people do good things to be admired by others
Don’t they have kids? WTH?!
Exactamundo!!!!
I remember watching the forensic files. I remember that show where they presented the case of Ashton’s date. She was absolutely SLAUGHTERED. Ashton knew!!!
I'm in my sixties so only saw Ashston once in a while in movies but I remember watching him speak in front of a government hearing against child trafficking. My skin crawled immediately, and my bullsh*t radar went off, talk about crappy acting, it was all for show.
Yes, I agree. Everyone was praising him after he spoke to congress, but I immediately knew he didn’t care about them, at all.
Remember how he reacted to the Jerry Sandusky disgrace?
/@@MissMolly3377
I watched that too. Folks in the chat were saying he was a pedo and was using it as a cover up for his crimes.
Yep I thought the same thing, perfect cover!
I wondered about him being so close to trafficking investigations and knowing so much intimate detailed information about the victims.
Kutcher looked like hell in his non-apology video. Haunted, one might say, the face of someone who realizes his ordeal is just beginning.
Christina Ricci had made a statement about Ashton and Mila and it was hard hitting.
Now, actress Christina Ricci is seemingly adding gasoline to the fire, calling out those that support "predators and abusers" because of previous reputations they may have held.
"People we know as ‘awesome guys’ can be predators and abusers. It’s tough to accept but we have to. If we say we support victims-women, children, men, boys - then we must be able to take this stance," she added.
I agree BUT something I'm not feeling comfortable with, is that I believe in the Judicial system. AND though by in large the majority of victims of DV or SA are women & children. Men can also be abused & the victims of DV.
I followed the trial last year of the Civil Trial of Johnny Depp & Amber Heard & everyone watching, b/c it was televised, the majority of ppl & as a victim of SA & knowing a male family member who was a victim of DV, the majority of women who have been victims of DV or SA believed Johnny Depp was ACTUALLY the one being abused!!!!! So, her comments I took with a bit of grain of salt. I know with this male member of my family, I saw how men treated differently & not believed the same.
Rape is violence
@@patm5086 Of course it is. I didn’t see where anyone said it wasn’t.
@@tammyboon6259probably because men are stronger and bigger and can walk away
@@tammyboon6259 Two completely different cases with different circumstances. Yes there are women that abuse men but the Danny Masterson case involved drugs and s*dual assault. Also the cult of Scientology had covered up and protected Danny for years. All the women had reported the SA after it had happened. Do yourself a favor and research this case and you’ll under.
I was compelled to pause and like when you gave credit to another person as your source. Thanks for being such a great example for us.
I’m loving all of what Chrissie is posting!!! She’s so brave and I’m so glad she’s found her voice!
It's always scary when people post threats w/out revealing it. It makes me feel afraid that they will be taken out to prevent further information from coming out.
Unfortunately, at the time Ashton said he was waiting for the Olson twins and Hilary Duff to turn 18, many people on tv were saying similar things. It’s disgusting. I recall a late night talk show host having a countdown until Lindsay Lohan turned 18. Idk why that didn’t raise more alarms then. I’m glad it does now though. My sympathies are with all SA victims 🙏🏼
I remember radio stations having countdowns for the Olsen twins 18th birthday 🤢.
@@brookew2403right?!?! So disgusting!!
Eminem had a song called “ass like that” that had a line like “Hillary duff is not quite old enough, so, I guess I’ve never seen a *butt* like that. Maybe next year I’ll say ass, and she’ll make my peepee go badoing-oing-oing”
I think she was 17 when it came out, it was a lot more pervasive throughout our media and culture than today. I hope the trend of overall reduction continues.
Like what the fuck is the deal with these countdowns? These people act like the minute a girl turns 18 they can have sex sith her whether she wato ir not. The fantasy is sick and perverted.
Yea I remember that too!!
My husband worked with a guy who is currently sitting in prison for murdering his girlfriends son. My husband was absolutely disgusted and quickly took him off his social media. It's beyond me how Ashton and crew wrote letter of support. It's so easy to just stay out of it.
That was his buddy and they're probably doing things illegally and have things on each other so that further obligates them to keep a secret.
They're used to getting whatever they want, I'm sure they thought the judge would fawn over them and take their word in to account. "Well if the great actor and philanthropist Saint Ashton Kutcher thinks he's a good guy, he must be!"
I love that little by little these Hollywood douchebags are being exposed for what they really are...scumbags.
Character letters are common, and makes more sense when you realize they may be hoping for a reboot of their show. Anything to protect the image and bankroll.
@@LoveLightVibration They should have stayed out of it then. More and more calling for that 70s show to be pulled from reruns because the other cast members are supporting him post conviction.
Being an ex-cop, I can tell you. If you lie to a homicide investigator it's a felony with you. Throw their investigation off anyway, shape or form by giving false information. That's a felony and it is disgusting. How you've described It but not surprising
I wondered about that?!?!
I think the only reason they didn't go after him was that he is a celebrity. I watched a 48 hrs or something on that series of murders and it was like how Aaron described it. If I remember right, they had to go to him and say... we know you were in there, and then he admitted it.
whoa@@zoeye7095
"aS aN eX cOp AyE cAn TeLL yOu" lmfao you don't have to be an ex cop to know that information. It's common knowledge making false statements in an investigation is a felony. Do you talk a lot about being an ex cop when speaking to your fellow gas station co workers?
As a citizen, no it's not a felony to lie to you unless under oath and if you charged me with one, I would end up rich when I sue your department
I love how you described Ashton bailing on the crime scene. Good story telling.
Just stop supporting anything related to these people, stop watching, unlike, unfollow. Send them back into the real world where they are held accountable for their behavior and actions. No ‘teams’ or attorneys on retainer or huge money moguls to bail them out or cover up the damage they cause.
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
You don’t require proof? You just blindly believe what some TH-camr says?
@jadedoe9966 so are people accusing him of finding her actual body?
Accurate information-
th-cam.com/users/livesG3T8Wk3hj0?si=diRl7WwMy9KWreLb
@@jadedoe9966 yeah whatever bot
How can anyone find a dead body of a good friend and then go to a party
Narcissism does that to people
Danny to Ashton-“ hey man,you can’t let your date being murdered get in the way of a good party”.....Ashton to Danny-“ dude you’re so right. God,you give the best life advice in the world. When they finally get around to arresting you for all your sexual assaults and you need me to write a letter of support to a judge for you just let me know”
spot on. :)
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
She was probably a sacrifice for his deal with the devil to be famous
@@jadedoe9966Apparently that story is not true according to this guy here
Whether his first concern was his career or that people would think he was involved speaks volumes about him either way. Calling your “people” rather than the authorities seems to be how many of the wealthy and famous operate. They really do live in a different world.
How do you go to a party after you discover a dead body in a fresh crime scene ? Especially when you were dating that person. That's sick. Did he wipe the door handles and tamper with the crime scene to erase any evidence that he was there ? IMO only a narcissist would worry about their career at that moment. I feel sick. That poor girl.
He wouldn't need to erase evidence of being there. From what I gather they had been seeing each other at least a short time? So it'd be expected his prints would be on stuff like doorknobs and maybe even light switches, in the kitchen ect. If anything, going around cleaning any evidence of himself would've made him look like the KILLER because it seems people were aware he was going out with her.
@@jennatavares4695I asked that because his response to finding a dead body was atypical. If he truly was panicking and didn't want to be connected to the crime he might very well have altered the crime scene as well. Not reporting a dead body, or the dead body of someone that you're involved with is IMO very bizarre but to then go on to a party afterwards like it didn't happen seems really messed up to me. If he'd do all of that in a panic when he was phoning people for advice why not do that as well ? I'm not accusing him of doing it but I'm questioning how far he went to remove himself from the crime scene. He then went on to lie to the police about being in the house. That is not normal behavior. That is why I questioned if he was a narcissist as well. Ignoring a murder so that you don't potentially affect your job is not normal behavior. His not reporting it made him look more suspicious IMO and he's not even the killer.
@dennismcconnell4222 Oh FFS! 🙄
He didn’t this dude is lying
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
Oh man, that speaks volumes about Ashton Kushner . What a tragedy. So much for his pure image. How can you enter a murder scene and not be profoundly affected?
Pure image... people need to stop idolising celebrities...
What about his $5 dare from Danny to shove his tongue down Mila's throat, for her first kiss, on camera, at 14?
@@jennifersilves4195 i no it is bloody disgraceful. They should both be be locked up. People in power in all walks of life just can't seem to not take advantage of the power they have over others and they always seem to cover each others backs. Well until it no longer suits them to do so.
@@jennifersilves4195wow
Ash is a narcissist. He was most concerned about his image.
GO CHRISSIE!!! Warrior woman We are standing with you here in Australia sistar! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💥💥💥💥💥
If I remember correctly, she wasn’t Ashton’s girlfriend. It was a blind date. Either way, it’s disturbing. May she rip.
WOW 😳 🤯 😲
WTF???? My opinion of Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis was already destroyed by their character letters for Danny. But for Ashton Kutcher to have discovered his murdered girlfriend and walked away is sheer insanity! Isn't that a crime in an of itself? I'm sure the statute of limitations is up for that type of crime but he should have had some serious repercussions. The fact is you can't change facts or truth to suit whatever narrative best protects your career. Now I have an even worse opinion of Ashton and I didn't think it could get worse unless he had done what Danny did. For him to turn around and walk out rather than calling the police shows what a weak and vain little bastard he is. Shocking.
The police know the whole story. I don't agree with the letters but this is getting out of hand. I don't doubt he was in shock and called for advice. If Chrissy Bixler heard that she should have called police herself
What is shocking, there was no outrage
Yes, he was very ill advised and should have called 911. But, everyone he talked should have also called and didnt. If I were one of those people, I definitely wouldn't bring it up 20+ yrs later. I really can't see how this helps her...I've always believed her but am really questioning her thought process on this
Speaks volumes. No basic humanity. Boggles the mind
I don't doubt that. And Ashton was in shock...I know I would be. I'm just really trying to understand why she's bringing this up. The right person is in jail. He didn't do it and shes admitting to knowing the situation at the time. I wouldn't want to admit to that and am not understanding her purpose. How does that serve her?
Narcissistic people can't say I'm sorry, it's just not something they can do and Danny is obviously a sociopath as well as having some strange sex addictions. I hope prison offers him the very worst it has to offer.
It’s not a sex addiction, it’s an addiction to power, and violence
@@katherinebervera4790 If it involves sex it has a sexual element to it. He enjoys punching woman in the ribs right before climax so their muscles tighten in the vagina as well. The man is all kinds of crazy with all kinds of things going on.
Although, I realize Danny Masterson deserves nothing, I do feel a little sad, because he is a dead man walking. Whatever inmate does him in will get cudos, cred, with the other inmates. My sympathy & empathy to all his victims. In a weird way, his victims are Lucky. Danny Masterson could have killed them by drugging them, like what happened to Natalie Holloway in Aruba.
@@katherinebervera4790yup, and control.
They sure can't. Been with one for 20 years. He can lie, cheat, and abuse me and never say he is sorry or even feel bad. He only cares when it effects him.
I was a “beer cart” girl at a golf course
In 2011/2012 in NC (he was shooting a pilot nearby) and even before all this came out I told everyone that he was a real a-hole and gave me a bad vibe…not cool…so being nice to “staff” and people “below” him was not my experience at all.
You are right. Never met him nor care to but he give off that frat boy sexual deviant vibe. This video confirms he’s a dark triad
@karriekat927== FAKE EMPTY BOT CHANNEL.
The majority of 34 year old dudes (his age at that time) post smart phones, are exactly what you’ve described.
I'm part of that over 40 crowd that watches you. My son is a big Moist Critical fan so this video got me. I want to say that there are a ton of people commenting on DM , saying the trial was all circumstantial , obviously didn't follow your great coverage here
Pretty much all the media outlets in Romania are reporting about the sentencing and details relating to the case, pretty accurately I'd say, and are not shy about mentioning scientology.
1.) I always wondered why Ashton was so passionate about stopping Human Trafficking.
2.) Now I know why. He's GUILTY of participating in similar stuff and he's trying to "clean" himself from his past.
3.) All that protesting against Human Trafficking was all for show.
This is my personal speculation:
*One major, major aspect of Danny's life which far fewer people associate with his career is what happened after That 70's Show had lost Ashton. This is Danny's DJ/Club promoter life in LA during the 00's.*
*What's interesting to me is that, from what I can tell, none of those prominent figures wrote letters, made statements, or showed up to the trial. The most noteworthy being Steve Aoki. Considered to be, by many, the world's biggest DJ. Certainly in America.*
*My speculation is that Danny had MANY, MANY more victims than we know about. Possibly hundreds. Because that EDM dj club scene in LA would have been the absolute perfect hunting ground for a predator like Danny... who was already doing this to women, prior to making his nightly business partying while absolutely SURROUNDED by people on MDMA (ecstasy/molly) and excessive amounts of alcohol. Not to mention all the date gRape drugs like GHB and roofys.*
*It cannot be overstated how easy it would have been for Danny to drug and assault women night after night without ANY of the victims knowing what happened.*
*The women who came forward, they all had a few things in common... They knew the only man around them, after coming to the next morning, was Danny. And none of them were trying to get high or blackout drunk. So they knew they HAD to have been drugged unknowingly. None of that could have been the case with any women he took advantage of in those clubs.*
Danny was not a very good DJ. But he was famous. One of the few famous people who were around in that early scene before it really got popular... And those other DJs like Aoki became major attractions around the US/World. And before the enormous EDM festivals became a common thing. Especially in the US.
The point being... Danny would have gotten a LOT of attention for at least 4 or 5 years in these clubs, after That 70's Show lost it's popularity. And there... drugging and assaulting women on a nightly basis would have been like taking candy from a baby. And I have no doubt he did. The question is... how many others witnessed him doing so?
*For those who don't know about Danny's involvement in that scene, I recommend you watch the Steve Aoki documentary on Netflix titled "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead". You'll quickly understand what I mean.*
GG A-A-RON!!!
Even if they'd consented to use substances, the amount given may not have been fully appreciated and certainly anyone taking advantage of someone g'd out or whatnot is not getting consent.
you're onto something here
Very interesting. I didn't know danny was ever a DJ. Did he do stuff with skrillex since they're both scientologists? Do you think aoki is a nefarious player? Thanks for bringing this up.
@@RavingKatsTHAT was my point. Any women he did that to in the clubs COULD NOT HAVE CONSENTED. But the problem is, all those women would have remembered was going to the club... getting drunk... possibly taking something like coke or x. And waking up with physical signs they had sex the night before.
MAYBE they would remember Danny being there. But there would be no way for them to know who had sex with them. Or where. Or when exactly. Danny would have had access to offices, let alone bathrooms and green room areas. But the women would have no memory of any of it.
All the women who came forward about Cosby KNEW they were alone with him. The three Jane Doe's (and others not involved in the case) KNEW they were alone with Danny.
None of those women he could have EASILY drugged by the DJ booth would know anything after that much GHB and booze.
I'm serious, it could literally be hundreds. But we'll never know. Luckily he can't do that to anyone again.
*Scientology is responsible for ANYONE he did that to after they first discovered he was gRaping women 20+ years ago. For that alone, they should have every dollar taken from them. And every facility closed. Permanently.*
@@carpeimodiem agree 💯
If I had a friend arrested for R, I would 100% be distraught and lock myself in my room questioning my life choices, wondering if I was safe, and crying as I painstakingly went over all our interactions wondering if I would've been next. I don't understand how they were able to just breeze past it.
Even with zero physical evidence 20 years later? I don’t want to live in a world where an accusation is enough to lock people up.
Calm down
You sound like you want to be a victim
I don’t know why we should be surprised that both of these men are sick. The fact that they both kept making extremely disgusting, predatory comments actions towards Mila who was still a CHILD is proof they are terrible people. Anyone who allows that to happen and didn’t stand up against it should be ashamed. This is how groomers and predators keep hurting children and young women. Because most people won’t say anything against it while it’s happening.
Unfortunately it’s very common in young men , especially in top positions in athletics and in Hollywood . That doesn’t make it acceptable - but these people make it part of the culture and the sell outs accept it because they want their fame .
Snap out of it people. What is important here is being diverted.
That so called church is literally protecting criminals and allow them to continue. Why are you attacking other people I am mean shameful. Look they did not see him do this right? What the hell. The only ones that should be saying he did this is the victims. Man. Stop bullying people. How to crazy do you have to be to attack somebody that wasn't there when the people were raped wake up. So now any friends or family of a criminal is gonna be taken down too?
You people are seriously ill.
Like I like what just happened this man got convicted of something no one else saw and what are people doing.
Defend his character. They knew nothing but good. You need to apologize to everyone involved. No one but God these women and him know what happened. Shame on you all. And make sure all facts are correct. Cause you are trying tp ruin lives right????
Wrong subject glad so many are being lead afar. Truly tragic for all women and members, children of this cult. I truly hope women are not misusing this power. Not saying in this case but it does happen.
Now will people FINALLY start looking deeper into Thorn and who he has on its board?
@@BB-nz5skthank goodness…if you know…you know!
WoW. Ashton Kutcher may actually be worse than Tom Cruise. Thank you for the eye opener Chrissie and A-Aron. Ashton takes cover your a$$ to a whole NEW level.
If you asked neighbours about BTK, they said he was a nice guy. A tad authoritarian, but no one thought he was a serial killer. The Ashton Mila “apology” was so tone deaf, I’m surprised their PR teams thought this was a good idea. They saw what Danny Masterson wanted them to see.
Thank you for your information on this. I had previously only heard the narrative from, Ashton's perspective; where he bad stated he'd only rang the doorbell & saw what he thought was wine but was actually blood. Knowing that he went into the house & saw her dead, makes me see everything in a new light. It's interesting that Ashton is such a big name in fighting against sex trafficking & such crimes, while he's defending Danny's horrendous crimes...my Mom is a doctor worked high up for Purdue Pharma from 1999-2007ish, they were the #1 contributer for a partnership for a drug free america, while single handedly contributing to the creation of an opiod, & later heroin epidemic. It just makes me feel like its a parallel, like Ashton is potentially involved in sex trafficking, while publicly showing a front where he's so against it ; just to create a revolving door of problem & solution... completely fucked.
Interesting comment comparing the two. While watching "Going Clear," I kept thinking those big celebratory ceremonies with David Miscavige at Scientology are very much like the Purdue Pharma celebrations with Richard Sackler. Lots and lots of narcissistic people out there
@@teeellecee Wolves in sheeps' clothing.
I was thinking this...its a front and hes up to some seriously dodgy stuff
I love how the CoS will declare someone if they won't disconnect from their family, but being a convicted serial rapist is totally fine. WTF???
EXACTLY!!!! I suddenly thought about the youngest have a Dad, & he DID NOT walk out on him!!!! Aaron had him on!!!! I recall he was great & every watching thought this of him. BUT they DISCONNECTED FROM HIM all b/c of this F#+K UP CULT!!!!
That's what you get with a "religion" founded by a psychopath.
One good thing that social media accomplished is exposing these disgusting human beings that were normally shielded.
Facts. Knowledge is power. Scientology is such a scary, evil, powerful cult. Although the true fold way to hopefully bring them to an end is to spread knowledge & awareness.
Accusing people as if it was mineral water. The wonderful medieval court of public opinion...
@@biancaenera2500 I’m sorry, isn’t that an opinion?
@@renbakes5083 Well, an individual opinion is greatly different from public opinion.
@@name02 whatever makes you feel superior
AK has always seemed immature to me.
He should be charged retroactively for not reporting a crime. If this really did happen, that is.
I think Ashton was displaying a guilty conscience in the "apology".
And Mila is showing "Stockholm" symptoms in the Rosie O'Donnel clip.
You gave props to charlie! He's a mainstay on TH-cam with a massive audience. So great to see you give him the credit he deserves. Good on you, A-a-ron!
Sociopaths and psychopaths are incapable of feeling remorse. There's no point in harping on the idea of him ever apologizing for something he will never feel sorry for. He isn't capable of feeling what you want him to feel.
But then how is he such a "great husband and father" now? Those people have brain structures that are different...they cannot change?
@@KristinaApplegateNarrator: He isn’t.
He’ll never see parole if he never shows any remorse. And that’s fine with me
@@cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338 Isnt it possible he was an evil SOB before, had some kind of big epiphany, and changed and became good as he got old? I was kind of a b----tch when I was younger and now I am pretty different. I am NOT saying he shoudl not pay by going to prison but maybe a person can be bad and then good later on? I mean not true sociopaths or psychopaths ... but maybe some??
@@KristinaApplegate It’s possible. People change. But then he would’ve admitted what he did and begged forgiveness.
Why isn't scientology being investigated for R.I.C.O.?
I used to think Ashton was a good person because he has a tech firm that finds and helps capture child (you-know-whats). But now I am wondering whether that is just an elaborate way to legally cover his perversions.
Same.
Yep
Christian missionaries do it all the time
Deception
Reading Demi Moore’s biography changed my mind about Kutcher.
@@NoFear69262yeah demi outed their marriage with some disturbing stuff
how the heck is it okay for a TV show to have a 19 year old make out with a 14 year old?? the directors should be freaking charged... wtf
The actor chyler Leigh (Lexie from greys anatomy) was forced to film a kissing scene with her own real life brother in a movie. It was not just a quick peck. She was 15
@@paulashepherd7524 How was she forced?
@@cheapcraftygirlsweepstakes2338
because minors don‘t have a say in these things and the staff knew they were siblings. what kind of weird question
Yuck! Holly-weird is rife with pervs!
Didn't think my opinion of the rapist could be any lower, until I was reading that he told some child friend of one of the JD's daughters to tell the daughter that he, the rapist, was actually not a rapist! And now hearing how he essentially got a meeting with her just to taunt and humiliate her about
A simple rule is ...do not trust anything anyone says unless you have seen things with your own eyes..but sometimes you can't trust your own eyes.
What happened to these women is horrible. They are brave women who stood up and had a voice. When it comes to Ashton, I do believe in a way it's blackmail. I wouldn't be surprised if more things get brought up about him in the future. I do wonder how many actors in scientology wrote a letter on behalf of Danny.
Aaron is going to read them.
@@bonnielucas1941YEP!!!! He's gonna read them all!!! He just hadn't decided on his family. I actually ended up hearing some of his family members by someone I never knew.
I could tell he was judging especially his little sister. I struggle with that. I agree with Aaron its their brother. ( 1/2 brother) I actually forgot that DM step dad did NOT desert them, they cut ties with him, and DISOWNED him cuz he didn't believe in Scientology' anymore!!!! Aaron somehow had him on!!!! He seemed like such a good dad!!!!! It's sick, if you think the 2 youngest have a GREAT DAD!!!! But they considered him a SP, & now have their older brother on this pedestal, cuz they don't get the monster he could be!!!!! That's where I say SHAME ON DM's Mom & SHAME ON SCIENTOLOGY!!!!! It's got to be UTTERLY DISMANTLED!!!!!!!
@@jadedoe9966 That maybe the story that you were told. That's not the story the rest of us know. Or the story Aaron and Chrissie have told.
@@sukiwatson I think that’s a bot, or a troll, they are saying the same thing under multiple comments.
My daughter is 24 and watches moist crit, it was funny you showed his clip.
I think its disingenuous for Ashton to state DM had such a great character. I worked with an IT guy who turned out to be a pedophile and we all found out when we saw the news. We didn't know the details of what he did but we all thought he had problems/issues that made him not a good person. I really think Ashton knew more even if he didn't know the specifics. You cant work, party and travel with a guy and not know more about his bad behavior.
Or maybe part of it, who knows!
Aaron, you are a stand-up man. All the truth you are bringing forward is needed. People need to be held accountable.
Saw his murdered girlfriend and didn't call the police! Monster.
I follow true crime and have for many years. The murder of the young lady, who had a date with Ashton, has been the subject of many many youtube true crime channels. It has never been told or explained the way aaron did. It's always been said that Ashton went to pick her up for an awards show date. When she never came to the door, Ashton looked in her window and saw a red stain that he said he thought was a red wine stain. So It's very interesting to learn that he indeed entered her home. Crazy!
OMG, you people are so damn gullible - You believe ALL this crap that these video channels spread - HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ... THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - You just take it and run with it ... WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THEIR LIFE - YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIKE TO DEAL WITH ... But you let these crappy TH-cam channels turn you against people that YOU don't even know - and spew out criticism and hatred ... JUST TO PUT MONEY INTO THE TH-cam CHANNEL CREATOR'S POCKETS ... THIS IS REALLY SICK!
To be clear: There is one source for this claim. So it has never been "told this way" because it is an unproven theory. Ms. Bixler certainly has some credibility, so I'm not saying we should dismiss it. But we shouldn't believe it to be true just yet, either.
@@jonaskeller6399 oh yes absolutely agree with you there. Great point!
@@jonaskeller6399 I looked up the floor plan and location of the body from the trial. I don’t know how Ashton missed her body. She was in a direct line from the front window.
Michele I can back up your comment. I also have been watching and reading about true crime for decades and I heard the story just as you did…no mention of Ashton entering the dead girl’s apartment. If this is true then it was pretty despicable of him not to call the police. I still would like this verified by a law enforcement source.
I can only imagine the dirt JD3 has on all of them. And as I said on your apology video, the only way their little PR stunt could've been a worse nonapology apology video is if they'd broken out the ukelele to sing a song about their nonapology apology.
Also what kind of person can discover a dead body, or even just blood stains, and say nothing let alone go to a party immediately after the fact?! Someone who's not playing with a full deck themselves is the only conclusion I can make of it.
Sounds like some kind of personality disorder.
Aside from the fact that you have to be at a very specific level of a$$hole to do what he did and just act like he didn't see anything, what's the bet he was high on something at the time and didn't want to risk the cops finding out that as well.
@@supaflyzaand it wasn't a stranger, but his GIRLFRIEND or at least his DATE. And his first instinct was, "I was never here, protect me," instead of calling the cops or an ambulance? Innocent people aren't worried about how it looks or makes them look.
I can believe it. Some people just blank out or suppress it to keep their sanity
You can if you are without appropriate emotional response and care for others A sociopath.
I truly love that Danny was the architect of his own demise.
He had plenty of enablers.
The Poor woman who died probably thought when she accepted a date with Ashton; that he respected her and she could trust him. Imagine if she knew what he did when he found her???
How in the world if you love someone or if you find anyone dead do you leave them like that and go anywhere?
Or just walk away from a dead random stranger.
He still went to the after Grammy party. 😬
Probably covering up. I would of called the cops.
@@forrestfey This wasnt a random stranger. Ashton was going on a date with her.
Because he didn’t love her, clearly. He was more concerned with not being questioned or tied to something that intense. Anyone who can walk away knowing they should do the right thing, is clearly not mentally sound. He should have been charged with obstruction, lying under oath, etc. He didn’t even think about how her family would feel if they found out he saw her and chose to do nothing. She deserved better.
I am very glad these women are getting some semblance of justice. With that said, i do not understand why there is so much surprise that this happened. Rape happens all of the time in Hollywood, from what i have been able to tell. The fact that Scientology is involved is a huge interest factor, and i do believe that organization needs to be obliterated. But when you put a bunch of overpriveleged kids together, then they are held in this incredibly high esteem, and treated like royalty, in my opinion, tells volumes about our society and how it has sunken to the lowest level.
Well said.
@bev542 thanks..
It wasn’t his gf it was a first date…. And he didn’t see her murdered… she just never came to the door when he knocked to pick her up and he later found out she was murdered
@@jadedoe9966how do you know that?
I’m so disgusted and disappointed in these people. It’s so gross that they supported this guy. It’s also giving crazy vibes that Ashton is/was this big celeb anti child trafficking spokesperson and then all this. Insane
He seems to only care when it’s kids being raped.
Anytime you see someone virtue signaling as hard as Ashton Kutcher, especially for a problem as nonexistent as 'child sex trafficking' is either hiding some shit or expressing a pathology.
@@bernie4366
🚧 troll crossing 🚧
NOT nonexistent-some kids are kidnapped and used and murders by kidnappers. Some trafficked from their home by a daily memzners. More likely is sexual abuse by a family member.
@@bernie4366 Dude, child sex trafficking isn’t a nonexistant problem. Do you live in a bubble or something?
When Ashton starts speaking out suddenly he is accused of inappropriate behaviors