New Tractor Reveal! 🤔🙂

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  • @purplerunner1715
    @purplerunner1715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Nice to see a Fendt in front again, but no matter what color, make or model that ends up at the farm I just wanna wish you some great growing weather and best of luck and good health to everyone in the coming growing season.

  • @robertgoetz2678
    @robertgoetz2678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Congrats Mike!
    I was working for fendt from 1989 - 1992
    The difference between the MAN D4276 for the tractors with up to 700 hp is the turbo with a variabel geometry, to get the max torque at low revs, the ones for upt to 790 hp for cmbines have a fixed (larger) turbo.
    Enjoy the german „meisterstück“,

  • @michaelratliff7775
    @michaelratliff7775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As soon as I seen the YT video of this BEAST, I posted a comment someone call Mike quick FENDT just made a Bigger Tractor! I knew you were gonna end up with one! Congratulations! Now it needs a Name!

  • @pricekimbrough5310
    @pricekimbrough5310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see videos of you putting all of that stuff on the drill and the fertilizer cart. That’s cool stuff.

  • @kopenhagenkid
    @kopenhagenkid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Mike

  • @dennislamers986
    @dennislamers986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    That thing is so impressive. Can't wait to see it in action. Kinda surprised there's no refridgerator.

    • @beaviccoon470
      @beaviccoon470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe he'll look at an aftermarket fridge

    • @landlifem5872
      @landlifem5872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@beaviccoon470 most likely yeah, but when you purchase a bit of gear worth $500k or so, you would think a fridge worth a few hundred dollars would be thrown in there ..

    • @hammerslammer3006
      @hammerslammer3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@landlifem5872 and put a decent tool box on it..

    • @landlifem5872
      @landlifem5872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hammerslammer3006 yeah you would think the toolbox should be built from 1/2 steel plate and sealed. Wouldn't cost much more and it's the small things like that gets people talking about it.

    • @anthonybanda8192
      @anthonybanda8192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tractor not an apartment!

  • @Its_Me0000
    @Its_Me0000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Congratulations on your new purchase/lease. I hope it serves you well.

    • @mikemitchell2554
      @mikemitchell2554  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks! I look forward to testing it out! 👍

  • @ZekenStreak
    @ZekenStreak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ll be honest, I was hoping for a big Versatile but quite happy you went with Big Fred!! Take care & stay safe. Cheers from BC

  • @OGRE.79
    @OGRE.79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tried a 2 track Deere before, was a pile of junk seeding in our hills. Hope you have luck with it.

  • @thebadwolf7687
    @thebadwolf7687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those things look like a great white shark in the water. I like the looks! Congratulations!

  • @pennev2
    @pennev2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good choice mike
    Been using the old challenger MT for years and Fendt wheel tractors and very happy with them .

  • @verlinswarey507
    @verlinswarey507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Do you ever take a step back to appreciate and marvel at how staggeringly complex,hi tech,sophisticated and just freaking awesome equipment has become?! This tractor is surely approaching the complexity of an aircraft. Really nice tractor 👍

    • @promod1512
      @promod1512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you're meaning airliners then no not even close

    • @astonmcleod5344
      @astonmcleod5344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ran planters in the UK about 35 years ago MF 590 with a MF30 combine drill, over here in Australia this year helping a neighbour plant, 410 hp NH tractor with a locally manufactued drill at 40 feet wide.I fully agree four monitors plus the tractor function. My first day I wondered what I had let myself in for.

    • @RJ1999x
      @RJ1999x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Um, that's not a plus by any means

    • @interman7715
      @interman7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But on the flipside, Welkers get all their work done with simple powerful reliable
      Big Buds made in the 80s ,soooooo is all that computer crap really necessary or just a way to drive up prices?

  • @HurstatElnup
    @HurstatElnup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad Fendt still has a presence for the big pull!

  • @TomPembertonFarmLife
    @TomPembertonFarmLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    62,000lb! is mental! Hell of a tractor
    and also "Yes it does have DEF" hahahah

    • @lynwessel2471
      @lynwessel2471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Long time rule of thumb is 100 lbs per horsepower. That transmission may or may not eat up more power than the 4 tracks probably similar.

    • @tomharper2709
      @tomharper2709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wouldn’t fit down the roads round you Eh Tom 😂

    • @fredericdelage1542
      @fredericdelage1542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Le tracteur fenf est bien et la vidéo est très intéressante et le semoirs est très grande

    • @MrDeny105
      @MrDeny105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fredericdelage1542 why french hate english? Maybe a few people understad you. weird nation.

  • @brettthevik
    @brettthevik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    You can put the reverse fan on it. Which I would highly recommend

    • @mikeznel6048
      @mikeznel6048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think these will operate at the proper temp if the fan isn’t oriented in the proper direction. Pretty sure they had an issue with one of their other Fendts where it wouldn’t keep the proper temp and ended up being the fan was reinstalled in the improper direction.

    • @brodyburnett3868
      @brodyburnett3868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can’t do that because you will have to change the hidraulic pump to a different one where it has the 2 different cylinoides and you that way each one can respond to each other when to blow and when to suck

  • @freddy_wiebe
    @freddy_wiebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot to say adios amigos 🤣

  • @mikeznel6048
    @mikeznel6048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice. Kind of had a feeling it was gonna be that. Hope it’s everything it’s made out to be.

  • @sneakprev1984
    @sneakprev1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    ooooh, I was kinda hoping you'd get a 1167! pretty excited for that one!

  • @cap_eath
    @cap_eath 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My dad talked about seeding up in Montana in the 60s using a two track. It was made by Caterpillar. It was made in the 40s I believe. The farm was out of available wheeled machines so he pulled the 2 track out of the trees and got it running. He didn't like the ride and the hitch was its Achilles Ankle but it seeded for two years. The big heavy iron weight up front also was able to push dirt. Much more useful than those sadle weights I'm sure. He parked it in the tool shed when he changed farms. He showed it to me 26 years later. It was just where he parked it.

  • @Jordsmed
    @Jordsmed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn thats a Nice tractor! Love to see a new fendt, What a beast

  • @BillStecik
    @BillStecik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well I take everything back. A new fendt redeems you . I also wish all a great spring and a prosperous Harvest and a great home in the north.

  • @scup157
    @scup157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes! That is what I was hoping u went with. Can't wait to see how it does.

  • @nicov8770
    @nicov8770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I´m happy, it´s a great tractor. Much fun with the fendt!

  • @ecw0647
    @ecw0647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try installing a wireless camera on the corners of the drill to help going around poles. I hope you have a terrific growing season with lots of rain.

  • @jamieshields9521
    @jamieshields9521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Interesting choice, definitely worth seeing long term use especially fuel usage, load pulling n servicing. LOL I bet those hoses on airseeder do give you headache but I like two colours so you can tell difference between them.

  • @tallpat62
    @tallpat62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congradulations on your purchase Mike. Had a feeling it was going to be the Fendt two track. Hope it works well for you.

  • @mariorembold7999
    @mariorembold7999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Mike! Super cool! 1050 made me join your channel, 1167 makes me stay! 👍

  • @bpaul1201awesome
    @bpaul1201awesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After last seasons protill test i was hoping the 1167 would get called up for a season. This is gonna be the biggest test for this tractor and i have a feeling itll do very well.

  • @kingjulien1656
    @kingjulien1656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a beauty!!! Looks like a angry bumblebee😄

  • @mcd5082
    @mcd5082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t believe you did that to the top con, hilarious!

  • @rachelt2482
    @rachelt2482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the tour!

  • @tommypittman3810
    @tommypittman3810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great choice I think they are really cool looking an most of all plenty of power I no u want be disappointed enjoy

  • @TheClassyArchitect
    @TheClassyArchitect 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang, a brand, shiny new big beast. I sure like the look of those Fendts. And you’re not kidding with all those weights.

  • @larryhemmelgarn3031
    @larryhemmelgarn3031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good luck with your new Fendt tractor can’t wait to see it in the field

  • @chackos123
    @chackos123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super excited to see the 1167 on that drill. I've been waiting for this since the day Fendt announced the 1167!!

  • @halwilliams1682
    @halwilliams1682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice looking Fendt. I hope it does not disappoint.

  • @froggienm71
    @froggienm71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Put a tune on that thing! Give it 100 hp

  • @michaellane9873
    @michaellane9873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's an awesome bit of kit Mike looking forward to seeing it working.

  • @andban92
    @andban92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's right, Mike. That's the answer.
    I was soo hoping that you'll get this one as your next tractor ever since there was one on your yard.
    Cannot wait for more action with this beast!!

  • @johnclarkkitner9556
    @johnclarkkitner9556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That tractor is impressive. Good luck with it. Can not wait to see it the feild

  • @timjorden8329
    @timjorden8329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bet that’s got what you’ve been looking for…
    JAM !!!!

  • @seantormey3531
    @seantormey3531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best of luck with your new tractor.

  • @onko1980
    @onko1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't wait to see this beast in action 💪great choice 👏

  • @sammurphy5454
    @sammurphy5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey mate, in regards to the horsepower, I'm fairly sure that they only put 620hp through the transmission, and the 50 horses on top of that is purely for hydraulics/auxiliaries. So I can't see them putting a 790hp version out until they're comfortable that their transmission can handle 750hp+

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know anything about tractor transmissions,i know they are made for torque and low rpm,but there are cars on the road with way more hp then 790 hp,wouldn't be easy to have a transmission capable for that power?

    • @sammurphy5454
      @sammurphy5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robb5828 it's more to do with the huge, constant loads which tractor transmissions are subject too. It's not unusual for a plough to be subjecting a tractor driveline to 50,000lbs plus constantly for 10 or more hours a day. Here is a link to a video describing the workings of the Fendt CVT th-cam.com/video/68G8RyWEwzA/w-d-xo.html

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sammurphy5454 thanks for the info mate and your time ;)

  • @spideybrent
    @spideybrent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello from Moosomin ,Saskatchewan, Canada Great videos you put for sharing.

  • @shettysuhas8030
    @shettysuhas8030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Knew it.
    Congratulations man for your new 670 horses

  • @neilmurphy7577
    @neilmurphy7577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'm looking forward to Mike's pros & cons already!

    • @andban92
      @andban92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IF you go back in videos,there are some of these when he had this machine on his yard,all tho the sedder was not attached to it.

    • @neilmurphy7577
      @neilmurphy7577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andban92 yeah I saw those, I meant for the seeder on the back and how it pulls up hills

  • @arctic66farmer39
    @arctic66farmer39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats, looks very nice.

  • @TOIMwet
    @TOIMwet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was hoping for this tractor it won't disappoint you

  • @tomharper2709
    @tomharper2709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I completely forgot you demoed the 1167 last summer and said how much you loved it

  • @cegimecava
    @cegimecava 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I felt it.. 😀 As i said 2 months ago. Good luck bro, i wish you many many hours and hectares without malfunction with this beauty beast ❤🔝🎉🎊

  • @jmcvieira
    @jmcvieira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad to see that the new machine as a MAN engine... no cold start issues with only three batteries.

  • @passaras5094
    @passaras5094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In my area the biggest tractor is max 250hp all this equipment seems unreal to me WOW

  • @kopenhagenkid
    @kopenhagenkid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fridges should be mandatory in tractors and combine’s Mike

  • @josephroed6920
    @josephroed6920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed it

  • @blainechorman8664
    @blainechorman8664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Congrats on the new tractor that thing is a beast!

  • @benmeiler9070
    @benmeiler9070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man thats an awesome tractor! I was hoping it would be the fendt or versatile. Thanks for the vids Mike!

  • @hedleyjackson5131
    @hedleyjackson5131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great film Mike we’ve finished seeding this side of the pond so will be great to see how well you get on. The Class half tracks are pulling above their weight over here.

  • @arendvoordepoorte3217
    @arendvoordepoorte3217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    the big question from everyone is: when can we expect to see pull offs between the 1167 vs 560 and the 1167 vs the 620

    • @j.e.honiball1327
      @j.e.honiball1327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your comment is on the top and now I wish youtube had spoiler tags.

    • @markkraakman1427
      @markkraakman1427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the 1167 and ernie😄

    • @joescheller6680
      @joescheller6680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He already done that with the pro til. That's the reason you see that two tract there. It beat every tractor on his place. The Quad track IH case Johnny Quad and the Johnny two tract. And the fendt had the best ride over all

    • @arendvoordepoorte3217
      @arendvoordepoorte3217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joescheller6680 I don't mean something the protill race, just tractor strap tractor. He did do that but never posted it on TH-cam, just on patreon. But it would be interesting to see if a weighed up fendt can beat a 9620rx

    • @joescheller6680
      @joescheller6680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arendvoordepoorte3217 reply you don't really want to be embarrested to bad do you

  • @user-rw2um8ro2p
    @user-rw2um8ro2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best of luck with it mike a fine tractor

  • @dennisphillips3059
    @dennisphillips3059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I can't wait until you get for you to get that STUCK. Good luck with your new FENDT

  • @saskcanada94
    @saskcanada94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike you can put a 300 liter tank on drills hitch with a small pump plumbed into the tractors tank to fill you just a toggle switch in the cab to turn it on when fuel is needed works perfect on mine

  • @computer2492
    @computer2492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes, exacly what i was hoping for!

  • @boazeilander3617
    @boazeilander3617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yeah that's an awesome machine

  • @mikebonge7206
    @mikebonge7206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations Can’t wait see it working and ur comments about performance

  • @muckrunner308
    @muckrunner308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You’re wearing shoes in the cab Mike!!!

  • @andyknox9276
    @andyknox9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does the mighty fendt have a baby seat option for chapel,the big fendt should pull the drills up the hills with no issues,good choice.

  • @Ardvandongen
    @Ardvandongen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have the perfect fields to try out the new NEXAT 😜

    • @Mygirlfriend3141
      @Mygirlfriend3141 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Junk mike said he wasn't interested not a thing for Mike

    • @Ardvandongen
      @Ardvandongen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He'd probably burn it to the ground ....... @@Mygirlfriend3141

  • @tylerkempf2902
    @tylerkempf2902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike when are you going to get a 100' drill.. I love to see a fleet of them on your farm..
    Love the videos like always

  • @benflint9877
    @benflint9877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see some awesome shots coming from the walkway.

  • @stanleyconrad4234
    @stanleyconrad4234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One hell of a garden tractor! 😜

  • @glenlaughlin6547
    @glenlaughlin6547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the update. Still sticking to a green theme, maybe.

  • @Rhelmer21
    @Rhelmer21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome looking tractor

  • @patu5798
    @patu5798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t often give Mike credit… But he has invested wisely with this machine

  • @klincben
    @klincben 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike you could just fill your hyd fluid with a pump over the return line.

  • @lornesmallwood1649
    @lornesmallwood1649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mike, greetings from Ottawa! Great videos explaining your operations and equipment. Went to UofS for my Master's degree so always interested in Saskatchewan stories. Beautiful province, great people but don't miss the -30 degrees before windchill in Saskatoon! lol keep up the great work!

  • @bcdieselsofficial
    @bcdieselsofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very impressive! I envy you!

  • @SmudMusik
    @SmudMusik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow Mike, great to see a fendt again 👍
    Have a great one

  • @kildare1773
    @kildare1773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best of luck with the tractor for the season. Very impressive looking. I must say the paint on your drill looks really good for a machine that's a few years old and probably stored outside.

  • @TayebMC
    @TayebMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrads on the nice tractor Mike

  • @michu020398
    @michu020398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nothing looks better than the Classic Fendt 1050 🥺

  • @galaxya7516
    @galaxya7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice tractor! AGCO must have decent bumper to bumper sevice offers on that beast. Happy seeding season😎

  • @donovanwaldner419
    @donovanwaldner419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    on the new case quads they still have the battery disconnect but it also kicks out after 20 minutes but the second you touch the door it is sensitive and it kicks it back in And it starts booting up your monitor in the background but the display is still dark

    • @mikemitchell2554
      @mikemitchell2554  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤔 Not sure I would like that

    • @j.e.honiball1327
      @j.e.honiball1327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikemitchell2554 Hopefully it can be enabled/disabled, it would seem silly not to, but I've seen sillier stuff on tractors

  • @SPONGEATHONO
    @SPONGEATHONO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I have 🚜 envy! You lucky 🐕!

  • @MrTjulius
    @MrTjulius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Billie from garrnet farms in Kentucky seems to luv his 1167, he has a review on the big tractor power channel

    • @ITubeTooInc
      @ITubeTooInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link to the bigtractorpower video with Billie driving his Fendt 1167:
      673 HP FENDT 1167 Vario MT Tractor th-cam.com/video/Fo8BuFA0bwA/w-d-xo.html

    • @richardradawetz8788
      @richardradawetz8788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup he pulling a little Nh3 outfit. Mike’s outfit will pull 4-5 times harder

    • @MrTjulius
      @MrTjulius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardradawetz8788 that's true, but garrnet farms has a bunch of 620 rx Deere's and his last 875 out pulled them easily. He was pulling an 11 shank ripper faster than the Deere's could pull 9 lol

  • @Bigstrapper
    @Bigstrapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew it!!.🥶😏 I know the guy that hauled it👌

  • @joshcrd7925
    @joshcrd7925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congrats on the new horse. Can't wait to see it in action. I am sure at this point it has a few long days dragging that drill around.

  • @joachimgahm8493
    @joachimgahm8493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fendt ✌️👍

  • @OldIron1961
    @OldIron1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know how long the air filter will last between cleaning/changing, but I do know that it has a precleaner (the 1050 does not). Next time you have the hood all the way open, look inside the big air box on top of the engine and you should be able to see all of the strato-cone (preleaner) tubes right before the air cleaner housing.

    • @mikeznel6048
      @mikeznel6048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They pretty much all have precleaners on them.

  • @pioneerfarm4369
    @pioneerfarm4369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL I new it when you did the demo last year you had fun with the 1167 good luck with your new toy just saying

  • @eoinryan3966
    @eoinryan3966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well wear to you mike super machine 👌

  • @farmshoffman8475
    @farmshoffman8475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great awesome video mike , I new you were getting one cause Chris barber picked it up from the factory. However I respected mike and not saying anything . Mikes new toy

  • @TheGooj
    @TheGooj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really exciting, and was sort of unexpected but not really... since you're Mike.

  • @tedlambert1988
    @tedlambert1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a good feeling that is what you was going to get

  • @eddybekkers
    @eddybekkers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great choice mike

  • @curtcarter3945
    @curtcarter3945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Come on Mike !
    Do you ever clean your WINDOWS ??
    how cool is that to be able to walk all the way around your cab !!!!
    Like a full wrap around porch at your house !!
    Very nice !!!!
    Way to go Fendt !!
    Have a great Season Mike !
    I would have Guessed the new Case Steiger quad track 640 and I think it tops out at 700 or 720 for hills etc. don’t quote me on that but I’m pretty sure it’s up there about 700 hp max !!

  • @joescheller6680
    @joescheller6680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew it. Good decision I think.

  • @jameswimbush5090
    @jameswimbush5090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guessed correct you are a horsepower geek Mike and it's a nice tractor 👍👍

  • @flix.306
    @flix.306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the new 1050 have a aircooler cleaner with air "shots", i mean the new 1167 have dat too - its like a reserve fan

  • @deanlarsen1389
    @deanlarsen1389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jason from Bigtractopower did a video on this tractor, and my first thought was Mike needs one of these.