F-16C Viper Vs F-15 Eagle Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you prefer more up close and personal dogfights consider the IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battle series and experience intense WWII aerial combat over famous battlefields such as Stalingrad, Moscow, Rhineland and Normandy. Fight in and against Russian, American, German, British warbirds such as the P-51 Mustang, P-47 Thunderbolt, Bf-109, FW-190, Spitfire, Hurricane and rugged IL-2 Sturmovik attack plane. You can also fly legendary SPADS, Fokkers and Camels in WWI dogfights over the trenches of WWI and discover your inner Red Baron! And all of this can be experienced in jaw dropping virtual reality!
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8. - เกม
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Thank you for watching guys, I hope you enjoyed the video, we've started a few phase of practicing some Viper BFM, lots of learn here so we'll have plenty to cover in the future, thank you again for watching and I'll you in the next one, Much Love.
Su 30 mki vs j-10c
Su 30 mki vs j-10c
Great one as always man! Can I get the name of the outro song please?
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If your up for possible suggestions? I wouldn’t mind seeing you guys swap seats maybe every round! Love the content bro keep up the great vids!
I would love to see role reversal in these vids. Two rounds in each aircraft, just to show how the problem might be solved by the other party.
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@@thatguy4828 the other
He did talk about this in another video. He said often times the other guy might not own the other aircraft or if he does own it he might not be as proficient in it as the other one.
Maby you could start a series or mini series of how to dogfight. Even as just tips, say what to be aware of in or against different planes. Of course pure theory cant teach you how to fly but without theory you cant do anything. You're great pilot with much knowledge and such fantastic voice. And I bet that lot's of people would love to see that series
Some tips:
1. Try not to be greedy. Pulling HUD BFM only bleeds your energy, and if you didnt hit him then you just put yourself in a disadvantage. (But at the same time dont play around, when you get the chance to kill your opponent, do it)
2. Situational awareness. Cant kill something you can see
3. Know what are the strengths and weaknesses of your aircraft, and your opponent's aircraft
Crazy how when he said "look at this eagle" and closed that gap between the eagle and him I really got the sense of a predator focusing in on his pray.
Do i like longer videos? Dude I could watch you fly all afternoon.
I really like the take off and landings, when we get them. It’s like bookends. Great vids as always!
Great to see you really excelling in the Viper. Many thanks GS. Kind regards, Nick
Thank you Nick, I appreciate you commenting.
Every video I watch just makes me want to build a flight computer just to play this game.
Do it
Woke up this morning and found this GS video waiting for me, F16 vs F15😍. Great start for my day. Thank you.
I love the longer videos thank you! :D
Like you said for the f22 and f35, they are almost never going against each other, instead they fight together and that makes them impossible to beat
F16s engine so strong 1:00 that my resolution dropped.
Super underrated man, keep up the great work!
16 has unparalleled visibility..... IMO
Yea it does...
I think you should start doing 2 on 2 dog fights. That would be interesting.
I've never seen another aircraft bleed vapor the way a Viper does
Luv both those jets, Thanks GS
Eagle is super dangerous in aggressive playstyle, seen people end dogfights after first merge almost continuously
Today I saw an a10 2 p51s and an f16 flying in formation, it was amazing
The F-16 is just the superior fighter. Despite that, they are both spectacular fighters.
Not exactly, F-15 exceeds the f-16 in BVR, speed, and ground attack capability.
Where can I find your soundtrack? They are really good
As always - top class video 👏😊 and flying skills of course 😉
By any chance can someone tell me what song GS uses during tacview? I like it a lot man really feels like two pilots dueling it out for life and death, and for a chance to see their families again.
round three .. ya had some moments of opportunity to break off. Great content again though.
more please :)
i like the last round,, you had the Alaskan f 16 arctic paint job,, Ak49!! cheers
Another awesome video, do you have access to experimental aircraft like f23 or f20?
Excellent video. You make killing the top predator look easy.
Damn viper is more of a rocket with a seat
F16 vs F22 next???
Quick question, DCS is on my to do list, but can you custom paint your fighter or you just have to use something that is already provided?
You can custom paint it, but you have to use an external photo editor like gimp, There is tutorials on it. There is a number of paint schemes available to you with the purchase on top of that there is the dcs skin page where you can download user built paint jobs.
Falcons and Eagles duking it out again I see.
The graphics do look legt. I recently tried playing the Mig 29 and it was rather difficult to turn, etc.
I just realized the controlpanel movements are not rendered there.....Is that some graphic setting or the offboard camera?
it looked like you wanted him to save some face by going 1 circle. :-)
Would be sweet if your discount codes were tied to Steam compatible versions
What set-up would be best to play these games. Interested in playing these games. New to to this. Thanks.
Question,,, How long do you believe it would take a Fully experienced MIG29 Pilot to transition to F16 or F18 or any other current NATO Fighter
The thing about planes these days is they aren’t all about stick and rudder skills. It’s about systems integration and leveraging strengths through matched tactics. It wouldn’t take the full 2 years, but 6-12 months for basic capability is potentially realistic.
Absolutely correct as you are a great pilot in the tomcat being in the seat continuously such as our military pilots in the USA. Although many have flown various other aircraft for years. Let’s say there is F-18 Super hornet now for 2 years straight ! If they were to get in one of their previous Aircrafts it would take a reacclimate themselves to it with more seat time again. Pick your weapon and stay in it whichever one it is that makes you happy and brings joy to your day ✨🦅✨ never sweat the bogey because now you have the skills to bring the best attributes out of your Aircraft ! Ty. Also as a real Hilo pilot can’t wait to get the advanced for the Apache. The best private Hilo bar none is the Notar. Thank you so very much for your time and effort and your channel it is obviously A passion for you as it is for myself. Wish you well on your journey with many many victories God bless ✨🕊✨
Can you fly a missing man formation for my boy, Chappie? He went down somewhere over the Med 😔
What are the benefits of not having tracer rounds?
Unrecoverable? How about some Falling Leaf BFM, GS-Style? I'd imagine you'd perform better if you put the Crown Royal down or drink it with a straw. Geesh... some DCS-ers.
I notice that most F-16 pilots say the DCS module is somewhat underpowered atleast as far as acceleration is concerned.
Another thing the viper dose supper good is support helicopters. Our friends from SC where amazing when we (BlackHawks) where doing out thing. Sure an A10 is king. But I tell u what. A viper in your airspace can cover you in ways an A10 just cant
combined efforts F35 fights!!!! we hear its poop, but we know its not a dogfighter. we wanna see its BVR capabilities!!!!!😘😘😘😘
I wish I could turn my head like that at 9g.
Growling sidewinder please watch one of my vids and see how I did in the dogfight
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what map is that
Next time f16 against su 35 or f-35
Bro, make a video on JF-17 thunder block 3.....
There is no JF-17 block 3 for this sim. Its not even in service yet.
I think you're the only one to have ever splashed an eagle
hello Growling Sidewinder i was thinking you could get in a discord call with me and you could tell me how to shoot because right now i just got a side stick from thrustmaster and it seams although its not working. as all ways its fine if you can't but but i would be sick if you could. BTW you have my love and support.
Out of curiosity, how do you choose your opponents? And do you take volunteers?
Am I the only person rooting for the eagle not the viper
Isn't the F16 called a Falcon?
Yes it’s official name is the falcon nickname is the viper like the thunderbolt 2 is the warthog
This video makes me sad... The F15 is my favourite.
F16 be like 😀
Am I the only one that misses tacview
Is F16 really that good? F15 is specially designed to dogfight while f16 is made as multirole fighter.F16 beats everyone, migs sukhois. How is f16 that good or GS is a better pilot?
Round 1: f16 won
Round 2: f15 won
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Finally the first in ma favvv channellll
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Bro viper again? Why not fly the eagle against viper you never do that
Yeah, I really wanna see how it compares. The eagle pilot in this vid doesn't seem very experienced with the eagle.
@@cjlane4465 ikr
I've noticed that you most often fight a different aggressor aircraft that what you're flying. I think it'd be interesting to see some same aircraft battles, f-16 vs f-16 (different countries for example). You're very good at knowing the strong points and weaknesses of the opposing aircraft, but how good are you when you're fighting the same airframe and thus eliminating some of the advantages. :{)
I would love to see this
i would be more interested in him flying planes that do NOT have ratefight advantage against good ratefighters, to show us how to deal with them with caveat of the opponent having to be good enough not to fall for obvious stuff like offset twocircle.
He has done some of that before
@@faqirmohammadabdullah2906 some yes, but when you compare his backlog of dogfights he is 95%+ sitting in the "ratefighter" or fighting another one circle fighter, only extremely rarely we see him go with onecircle fighter against two circle fighter and even if we get one its always agaisnt a pilot that isnt on his level - he just uses offset twocircle to win rather easily.
it would be nice to see him more often in lets say Mirage, Hornet or his recently claimed favourite MiG-29 going up against F-16 and F-14 because im kinda getting tired of dogfights consisting of him autowinning the moment he is able to drag the other guy to the deck simply because he is in the two circle dominant aircraft all the time. Its too predictable and unexciting.
@@Asghaad I think we're going at the same target from different angles. I agree with you, that's why I suggested the same same airframe battle, so he doesn't have an advantage knowing the other planes weaknesses.
The take-off sequences were SO cool looking! (and I shouldn't forget to toss out an honourable mention to the clouds - gorgeous graphics!)
the simulator demands heavy graphics processing even using an RTX 3080 it hiccups to render these clouds in high quality
@@renatoigmed What're you talking about, I'm running a 3060 Ti and It runs like absolute butter on completely maxed graphics
Love seeing your Viper videos, it's what I chose to fly in DCS. It's such a beautiful aircraft, extremely innovative for it's time, it's easy to see why it's the most popular fighter in the world and also such a popular module. I couldn't resist the all glass canopy, that and the thrust-to-weight ratio gives you a sense of freedom that I don't think any other module does. It dances in the sky effortlessly like a flying motorcycle
Geeeze! How I hate seeing anything shoot down my beloved F-15's, but I guess you've gotta realize that any fighter aircraft has vulnerabilities, and if you live long enough, and through enough encounters to learn what they are, you can defeat even the best. By the way, I love your narrations and learn so much from them, and I LOVE your voice! ;-)
me too. I'm wondering what the eagle pilot's skill is if it's at the level of the GS
@@renatoigmed Doubtful looking at the shots he tried.
@@renatoigmed I think they should swap planes every time there is a new round
And it’s strong point is BVR and it’s the king at it.
@@aldenpittinger4162 good thing these are both on the same side! Let the Eagles soar and knock down targets at range and send in the 16's to snack on the scattered remains
One of the benefits of you producing videos in the Viper is the unparalleled visibility. No canopy obstructions whatsoever. Love it!
I fought F-16s in real life. I flew A6Es Intruders and we had one Magic Turn then we are our of energy and become a grape 🍇! Nothing out turns a F-16. They are small and hard to keep your eyes on them. You can't fight what you can't see!
The Viper has "relaxed stability" to help it be so agile. So if you lose a control surface, you're pretty much SOL since the plane will be impossible to keep in any kind of controlled flight envelope.
To be fair, if youve lost a control surface you've probably got more problems than you can solve at that point
Very intersting i think it wasn't design to take any kind if punishment, since its such a dominant air to air fighter.
BRUTAL kill anyway for the f15
@@ovisteaua9191 The amount of armor required to significantly protect planes from the kinds of weapons they'll be facing would make the planes all but useless in air to air fights. Even the A-10's armor is only proof against 23mm and that is for the cockpit of a CAS platform, not a fighter.
Well for comparison the F-15 has been landed with one wing completely missing.
Your videos make me want to get into DCS. I've been playing Sturmovick since the first release and was an energy fighter like you. I did not realize these principles survived into the jet age so well. You seem to be an expert at it. I eventually got so good at it I would intentionally allow enemies to pull behind me in an idea kill position and control relative speed to get behind them without a turn fight. As they approached I would turn gradually to the right to lure them in behind me and throttle down allowing them to get in close for the kill. Then I would spoil their shot by rolling to the right 90 degrees and nose down sharply for a convex left turn. Only an expert can hit an aircraft in this path because the target motion is opposite to the point at which you would normally lead the shot. Simultaneously I would throttle up hard to even speed ending up directly behind them for the kill. I can't tell you now many planes I downed using this technique.
Il2 is good but dcs is next level,F16C is my main and it is so satisfying
F 16 vs rafale
Thank you for showing the Viper some love in BFM !!
Loving all of the videos lately! Keep ‘em coming.
Love the Sioux City tail flash. Used to be on their F-16s until the unit switched airframes to 135s. We used to have a jet tail #57-2607 that we painted with the old tail flash for the unit's anniversary until it was sent to the boneyard☹️
I'd love to see an F-35 series, maybe against modern Russian planes. No particular reason why. Oh well, back to the news.
The view as a pilot out of that bubble canopy in the Falcon is incredible!
I have a bit of a question just out of curiosity, how are the damage models overall ? Are they tailored to each aircraft or standardized between all models ?
Damage is reflected on which part of the aircraft is hit, and it’s aircraft specific.
@@GrowlingSidewinder cool thanks, always thought details like that are really neat
@@timothybayliss6680 I seee, from what little I do know the game sure has come a long way
Hey GS I really enjoy your content and especially your bvr content I think this is all really entertaining keep up the good work. Thank you buddy
Have they fixed the low speed maneuverability issues? I've been flying the M2000C while they fix the flight model on the F-16. Also, any word on if they are going to nerf the JF-17? There's some serious nation building going on with that plane.
Just wondering… I’ve heard you say before that the F-16 is called Viper and not Falcon, but growing up in an Air Force town in the 70s and 80s I always heard it referred to as Falcon. And even Lockheed Martin website refers to it as Falcon. I know this isn’t a big deal, I’m just curious as to the multiple names of the plane. Love your videos! Takes me back to when I was a kid watching these planes fly over every day, and seeing the occasional dog fight training.
Hi Mark, its official name is the "fighting falcon" but its nickname is the viper, the way the A10 is nicknamed the Warthog instead of the Thunderbolt II.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Gotcha! Thanks!
The Block 72 is officially called the Viper, F-16V
Loved seeing my hometown Air Guard markings on the F-16! Bats!
The only place the F15 has lost an air to air battle is in video games.
I like it better when you switch planes every other round.. Or every round. Just to get contrast and perspective.. What it's really like to have the Viper hunting you down.
Just been rewatching some of your old videos. May I suggest an F-22 VS Harrier fight? Battle of the BS fighters
I've noticed they've added tracers to the F16 so you can finally walk your shots onto the target instead of the usual spray and pray
No G effects? Sustaining 9 G's for more than a few seconds causes the pilot to block out lol
It was deactivated yes but fighter pilots are trained to withstand high G's and also have anti-G suits
Can't wait to fly the Viper
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We need more BVR videos man.
I'd love to see an Mi-24 vs A-10, if you ever need any ideas. Haha
I liked the change of camouflage in every battle.
I recommend you use the Saudi Arabian F-15 Strike Eagle🇸🇦 It's the best version of all the F-15s out there. Except for the F-15EX and F-15QA but I don't think those are operational yet.
Hey, I would love to see you do a playlist of the F-16 and how to use it. Teach new people I feel like that would be great
Interesting fight, based on this, it would seem an F15 pilot out avoid going to the deck against an F16 at all costs. I once heard an F15 pilot make the statement "an F15 literally has 2x the control surface area of an F16, of course it can out maneuver one". Perhaps what I missed was the qualification "at sufficient altitude".
15 pilot must have left out the fact that it's also nearly twice the weight, lol
@@dsdy1205might be twice the weight but also has twice the power baby🦅🦅
F-15s should be unbeatable in the BVR engagements, its weird to see that in DCS that is not the case.
Nothing is unbeatable indeed
Would love to see an F-15 Bandit Unknown video!!
LOL "look at the scenery". NO! Fight the plane. Great video as always. For some reason I just want the F18 to be dominant in this space. I'm getting professional help for my challenges. Thanks again, great video.
Bro have some rest u are posting like crazy u will get exhausted.
You have a discount code for modules? Awesome man, hope it takes in some profits for the channel