This is a FANTASTIC video! I had done this in similar fashion but tried the solvaset/tape method last night on an Athearn RTR Trinity 5161 hopper that needs to be renumbered. Worked beautifully! Thank you for sharing this technique.
Most interesting... Most ineresting! I always wondered how difficult it would be to renumber a loco, and it seems you answered the question for me! I hope to put this info to good use someday on a Big Boy to renumber it to a fantasy number 4025.
A good method to hide the shine of decal film: coat the area where you are going to place the decal with clear gloss coat. Once it dries apply your decal. After the decal dries apply a matt varnish / dullcoat clear coating.
A very helpful tutorial indeed! Hoping to have a go at renumbering some British Rolling stock soon. That Micro Sol really works a treat, that the old number off very well. Will certainly keep those products in mind. Keep up the great work
I saw this 8 years later but what a great how to video. I can do that to remove decals on action figures I want to remove instead of what most youtubers recommend which is acetone (which could craze plastics)
Nice tip! I found that if I just kept brushing the Miicro Sol over the letters/numbers on my Bachmann 0-6-0 till they started breaking up, they came off really easy. A couple of tiny specks remained but weren't difficult to remove.
Nice video! I bought the stuff to renumber some of my locos a while ago but haven't gotten around it it yet as I want sure how to achieve it without messing it up. Thanks for the tips I'll have to try them out!
Thanks for showing your technique! I'm not as afraid to try it now. You mentioned using the Krylon Krystal Clear. Is that a matte or gloss coat? Thanks! Deryk
DG Modelworks I was able to find Krylon flat finish at Walmart. Don't know if it was available when the video was made but it is on the store shelves now. Jim
Great looking locomotive nice 👍 reminder don't forget the NS car's u want to send me last year 2017-18 can't remember. I want to put it in our model contest for October and November this year
No decals are better than Microscale - because you get to control the clear layer which eliminates excess clear film and you don't have to cut. There was too much clear left on the ShellScale decals; number 4 was too high on the left cab side. But, you need a fine job on explaining the decals steps - and you used Microscale solutions. Very good! BTW, ShellScale doesn't make light-able number board decals - Microscale does.
Great video man. I have a question, it looks like each decal has a square area around it, does the square bit stay or does it somehow evaporate when the decal is being dried?
do you have to clear coat it ? like i asked early im getting a athearn 4-6-6-4 challenger steam loco and that's a lot of locomotive and tender to cover
Thanks for sharing this with us. Do you have any videos on how to custom paint? One thing I wanted to try for a while is custom paint and detail 2 LLPX gp38s so if you have any videos up it would really help. Btw I think you have an awesome layout.
Wow you were Young when you did this!😂 How about Front Lighted Number Boards on an Atlas N Scale. Numbers just stuck on outside of lens. Same procedure?
hey man does this work with rolling stock like passenger cars too? i plan on removing decals of l&n passenger cars and renumbering them to model the csx ocs
I tried to renumber my HO B23-7 3972 to 972 but I damn near took the 9s off too. . Anyone feel generous? Does the tape method work for the number- boards?
In your video Micro set says on the front that it is a decal remover. But you use Micro sol to remove the decal from the locomotive. So witch one is to remove them? And which one is to make them stay in place?
The original numbers on the model aren't decals -- they're printed on. I've never tried removing decals, but Micro Sol seems to be much better at removing printed-on numbers than Micro Set.
Probably a dumb question but will this technic work to remove locomotive lettering? I have a few BNSF units that are stenciled for my railroad and I would like to remove the BNSF. Poor mans paint job lol.
I'm curious if you've encountered what I'm trying to figure out now. I have a P1K CN newsprint car with factory applied graffiti over the CN reporting marks, CN noodle. I'd like to remove the graffiti without messing up those nice CN reporting marks, logo, etc. Any suggestions ??
+Steve Hastings I am not an expert on the matter, but I would assume that it would be pretty much impossible. I've got a few of those pre-graffitied P1K CN newsprint cars too. They look okay once they've been weathered. If it's not a car I already have & you are interested, we could potentially swap as I have a few CN newsprint cars without graffiti new in box. Let me know if you're interested.
+Berubium I definitely might be interested. What are the road numbers you have ?? .....and how do we get in contact off line here ?? By the way, I finally gave up trying to remove the graffiti, I masked the parts I wanted gone and hit it with some primer and it came out much better than I expected. I only have to re-decal the bottom half of one CN noodle and some of the car data on the same side. Personally as graffiti is today's norm I model back a ways and graffiti isn't my thing.
***** Hi Josh. I admire the work you but I read about decaling that they adhere better to glossy surfaces. Did you apply them directly to the surface after removing the old number?
I have heard the same, however I have never had a problem with it. I always dull coat mine. I think the most important thing is just to make sure that you have some sort of coat over the paint, whether it be gloss or flat.
I use this method and some others for just about all my models. It works on everything. Ive herd Kato engines can give some trouble but you just have to keep re-applying your sol until all the numbers come off. What I generally do for my steam engines when I do this is I sometimes take the blade of a hobby knife to assist in getting the numbers off.
How do you place the numbers so that they are aligned? It's a pity you took for granted that we know how to do that and you skipped that explanation. Well, I don't know!! I do appreciate your comments
What happened with the shadowing effect of the original road numbers? Did you apply more sol & tape off camera or did the complete drying of said sol diminish the shadowy look? Thanks for passing on the tip. - SP modeler out : )
***** Great. Thanks for the tip. I have a fantasy railroad and the story I made up is that in the beginning we acquired older locos from other RRs in our region. The budget was tight so we just put our name and markings over the original logos. This would be much easier than having to strip and paint everything that we purchase.
Hi- thanks for the video tips. I couldn't make out the decals that you recommended. I got that what you use are better than Microscale, but what brand name are you recommending?
That's exactly what I did for my SD70M-2! Question though, what did you use for the EMD number boards? They have a smaller font and I ended up just using some slightly oversized number board decals.
Many thanks for taking the time to share this technique! I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does this work with the same great results on a Proto 2000 Locomotive? I have a GP7 that is a duplicate number that I would rather keep and redo in another number rather than sell it. Thanks again! Darin
Do you have another technique for this process. It does not work for N scale Kato, and Atlas models. Just asking. I don't know why it doesn't work but it doesn't. Peace to you and the family, and welcome home.
Thank you for sharing this. I am probably gonna be talk about pretty bad,but i am gonna do this to a kato sd40-2 change the name and all. Tr ha k you for the info.
A 10 year old video, today it’s helping me finish a custom NS C40-9(8793). Thank you!
This is a FANTASTIC video! I had done this in similar fashion but tried the solvaset/tape method last night on an Athearn RTR Trinity 5161 hopper that needs to be renumbered. Worked beautifully! Thank you for sharing this technique.
Most interesting... Most ineresting! I always wondered how difficult it would be to renumber a loco, and it seems you answered the question for me! I hope to put this info to good use someday on a Big Boy to renumber it to a fantasy number 4025.
A good method to hide the shine of decal film: coat the area where you are going to place the decal with clear gloss coat. Once it dries apply your decal. After the decal dries apply a matt varnish / dullcoat clear coating.
A very helpful tutorial indeed! Hoping to have a go at renumbering some British Rolling stock soon. That Micro Sol really works a treat, that the old number off very well. Will certainly keep those products in mind. Keep up the great work
I used your technique yesterday renumbered 4 locomotives!!!!! you are the best! thanks so much!
Glad it worked for you!
NSmodeler24 do a how to renumber some covered hoppers
@@rockyfanatic6846 It's exactly the same. Remove the existing numbers and add decals for the numbers you want.
I found this very helpful. I did not know how to apply decals like that until I watched this, thanks for uploading this video!
You did a great job Josh.
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for this tutorial Josh. I'm going to be trying this on a BOWSER Ontario Northland SD40-2.
I saw this 8 years later but what a great how to video. I can do that to remove decals on action figures I want to remove instead of what most youtubers recommend which is acetone (which could craze plastics)
Nice tip! I found that if I just kept brushing the Miicro Sol over the letters/numbers on my Bachmann 0-6-0 till they started breaking up, they came off really easy. A couple of tiny specks remained but weren't difficult to remove.
That's a nice way to remove the old numbers. I should try this technic on some of my engines.
Thank you!! I will practice on this, esp when I have unit coal trains or other frieght cars that will be in my home road name.
This video is so helpful! Thank you.
I will use this method to renumber my SD60E to NS 7034.
Nice video! I bought the stuff to renumber some of my locos a while ago but haven't gotten around it it yet as I want sure how to achieve it without messing it up. Thanks for the tips I'll have to try them out!
Finally I know how to make a “what if” CSX/Chessie heritage model possible!
Awesome! Can you post a video when it is done?
Thanks for showing your technique! I'm not as afraid to try it now. You mentioned using the Krylon Krystal Clear. Is that a matte or gloss coat?
Thanks!
Deryk
DG Modelworks I was able to find Krylon flat finish at Walmart. Don't know if it was available when the video was made but it is on the store shelves now.
Jim
would rubbing alcohol work as well in removing the numbers?
Great how to. Thanks for sharing with us all.
Thanks for another great video! Now I will try this technique on my own locos.
Are the number boards are difficult to renumber
Great video, i was wondering how to go about doing this, Thanks!
Great looking locomotive nice 👍 reminder don't forget the NS car's u want to send me last year 2017-18 can't remember. I want to put it in our model contest for October and November this year
Now I know how to add decals. Great info video.
Did anyone notice that that was NS 1030 SD70ACE the forgotten heritage or the 30th anniversary until
Can you get Athearn Genesis HO Scale Amtrak F40PHR unit 225 and renumber it as Amtrak F40PHR unit 369 please???
I know this is an old video but will with work with scale trains and Bachmann locomotives too?
Should’ve included the light board
Cool video. Any idea whether this method will also work with an old Atlas N scale GP38 model from 2002? Thanks!
Do you think this technique will work on Broadway Limited steamers?
Can you make how to make model trains go up and down grades?
Do we do the same thing with the logo?
So this could work for Walthers mainline trains and other and what numbers could be recommended
No decals are better than Microscale - because you get to control the clear layer which eliminates excess clear film and you don't have to cut. There was too much clear left on the ShellScale decals; number 4 was too high on the left cab side. But, you need a fine job on explaining the decals steps - and you used Microscale solutions. Very good! BTW, ShellScale doesn't make light-able number board decals - Microscale does.
Are the cab number boards a similar process? Even with the backlight shining thru?
Great video man. I have a question, it looks like each decal has a square area around it, does the square bit stay or does it somehow evaporate when the decal is being dried?
Will this work on a walthers railcar?
Im changing a atlas UP locomotive to new England central im doing exactly what he is saying but the decals are not coming off what am l doing wrong
Thanks I'd forgotten about that technique
How do u get rid of the numbers that light up
At last, I've found a decent method that works!
do you have to clear coat it ? like i asked early im getting a athearn 4-6-6-4 challenger steam loco and that's a lot of locomotive and tender to cover
That’s a great idea! I’m gonna try that on a recent acquisition that has a rr name I wanna change. Thanks!
Does the same method work on lionel diesels?
will this take off the lettering and design on the tender of the circus 4-6-0 steam engine by Bachmann Williams.
Excellent information...thanks for sharing with us
Thanks for sharing this with us. Do you have any videos on how to custom paint? One thing I wanted to try for a while is custom paint and detail 2 LLPX gp38s so if you have any videos up it would really help. Btw I think you have an awesome layout.
Start on a cheap piece of rolling stock and practice!
7:12 "And we're done!"
Seems legit!
that looked simple thanks for the video
Do they sell Southern Pacific decals for steam locomotives as well?
HEY nice but where do u order your trains with the flashing lights in front of the train
There are various manufacturers that make models that way. One of the popular online retailers is TrainWorld.Com
number 4 is not in alignment with the other numbers
I tried your technique twice on a old Athearn blue box Southern Pacific SD40T-2 and it didn't do nothing, could it because the paint is different??
Do you think this technique will work for a Bachmann Amtrak locomotive? Also does this work only for the numbers or for all other decals as well?
What about the lighted Numbers can you change those?
What about the number boards???
to do a patch job would you remove factory number decals or just add patch decal over it? I will be using microscale patch decals.
Wow you were Young when you did this!😂
How about Front Lighted Number Boards on an Atlas N Scale. Numbers just stuck on outside of lens. Same procedure?
Have you used this technique works with Proto2000 locos? I have a number of them to renumber.
The original numbers were just painted on with a pad, not decaled, right?
hey man does this work with rolling stock like passenger cars too? i plan on removing decals of l&n passenger cars and renumbering them to model the csx ocs
I tried to renumber my HO B23-7 3972 to 972 but I damn near took the 9s off too. . Anyone feel generous?
Does the tape method work for the number- boards?
In your video Micro set says on the front that it is a decal remover. But you use Micro sol to remove the decal from the locomotive. So witch one is to remove them? And which one is to make them stay in place?
The original numbers on the model aren't decals -- they're printed on. I've never tried removing decals, but Micro Sol seems to be much better at removing printed-on numbers than Micro Set.
Probably a dumb question but will this technic work to remove locomotive lettering? I have a few BNSF units that are stenciled for my railroad and I would like to remove the BNSF. Poor mans paint job lol.
Do you do the same thing to remove the company's name I have a SD40-2 that I would like to make my own Railroad Thank You
Yes, obviously this technique works for all factory-applied decals.
Thanks Josh - very good how to.
i know this is old, but i gotta ask, does it work for steam engines too? such as the athern genisis FEF-3?
It should
Just great, thx for that helpful video ;)
I'm curious if you've encountered what I'm trying to figure out now. I have a P1K CN newsprint car with factory applied graffiti over the CN reporting marks, CN noodle. I'd like to remove the graffiti without messing up those nice CN reporting marks, logo, etc. Any suggestions ??
+Steve Hastings I am not an expert on the matter, but I would assume that it would be pretty much impossible. I've got a few of those pre-graffitied P1K CN newsprint cars too. They look okay once they've been weathered. If it's not a car I already have & you are interested, we could potentially swap as I have a few CN newsprint cars without graffiti new in box. Let me know if you're interested.
+Berubium I definitely might be interested. What are the road numbers you have ?? .....and how do we get in contact off line here ?? By the way, I finally gave up trying to remove the graffiti, I masked the parts I wanted gone and hit it with some primer and it came out much better than I expected. I only have to re-decal the bottom half of one CN noodle and some of the car data on the same side. Personally as graffiti is today's norm I model back a ways and graffiti isn't my thing.
Thanks for this video. Can you do this for the number boards on the front of the locomotive?
Yes you can
*****
Hi Josh. I admire the work you but I read about decaling that they adhere better to glossy surfaces. Did you apply them directly to the surface after removing the old number?
I have heard the same, however I have never had a problem with it. I always dull coat mine. I think the most important thing is just to make sure that you have some sort of coat over the paint, whether it be gloss or flat.
*****
Okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks again for taking a moment on getting back.
Does this technique work the same with rolling stock? I thinking about renumbering some of my ScaleTrains 31K Crude Oil Tank Cars. Just wondering
Yes, it works on rolling stock as well.
I guess this will work to re number RTR rolling stock as well ?
I use this method and some others for just about all my models. It works on everything. Ive herd Kato engines can give some trouble but you just have to keep re-applying your sol until all the numbers come off. What I generally do for my steam engines when I do this is I sometimes take the blade of a hobby knife to assist in getting the numbers off.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
How do you place the numbers so that they are aligned?
It's a pity you took for granted that we know how to do that and you skipped that explanation.
Well, I don't know!!
I do appreciate your comments
Just take something straight on the cab, like a battery box or the cab Windows and align the numbers to that.
What happened with the shadowing effect of the original road numbers? Did you apply more sol & tape off camera or did the complete drying of said sol diminish the shadowy look?
Thanks for passing on the tip.
- SP modeler out : )
Will this method work for N Scale?
Thanks for posting! I need to do this on some of my locomotives.
I assume this technique could be used to remove the RR logos as well if one wanted to create a fantasy road unit?
That is correct! Ive done it myself to remove an NS logo
***** Great. Thanks for the tip. I have a fantasy railroad and the story I made up is that in the beginning we acquired older locos from other RRs in our region. The budget was tight so we just put our name and markings over the original logos. This would be much easier than having to strip and paint everything that we purchase.
What scale is this?
Where do you get your decals?
Are you out for the summer yet?
Anyone know if it works on scaletrains locos?
Hi- thanks for the video tips. I couldn't make out the decals that you recommended.
I got that what you use are better than Microscale, but what brand name are you recommending?
Shell Scale
That's exactly what I did for my SD70M-2! Question though, what did you use for the EMD number boards? They have a smaller font and I ended up just using some slightly oversized number board decals.
number board???
Can you explain what's that stuff you used to take off the numbers and doesn't work on coal carsI believe it's in Athens blue box
Paint formulations were a lot different on the Athearn Blue Box cars. I doubt Microsol or even Solvaset would touch it.
Many thanks for taking the time to share this technique! I don't know if this has been asked yet, but does this work with the same great results on a Proto 2000 Locomotive? I have a GP7 that is a duplicate number that I would rather keep and redo in another number rather than sell it. Thanks again! Darin
Wondering the same thing. Did you ever try the renumbering of your proto loco?
Nice work, T/Y.
Thank you. Very helpful.
NICE BUT NUMBER 4 NEED BE FIX I THINK
THUMBS UP
is this O gauge?
Do you have another technique for this process. It does not work for N scale Kato, and Atlas models. Just asking. I don't know why it doesn't work but it doesn't.
Peace to you and the family, and welcome home.
TrashMan2008 because they are to small
Will this technique work for S Helper Service and MTH S scale models locomotives as well?
Great video!
It's funny that the Micro Set is labeled "decal remover" but that's not the one you use.
I have a message for you in your mail! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing this. I am probably gonna be talk about pretty bad,but i am gonna do this to a kato sd40-2 change the name and all. Tr ha k you for the info.
trainman0771 Best of luck with the project! Glad it can help
This technique is not working on an Athearn RTR GP35.
Hey man I got a quick question for you. I have some HO cars that I need to take the decals off would I just use the same process as you did here?
great video