Yeah, yeah yeah yeah but said one 💀🤣 bro it was going to be a big deal. It was gonna be a big deal. Yeah yeah yeah it was gonna be a big deal. They got some big stars. Oh yeah, oh yeah it was gonna be a big deal. No way bro no way bro it was the biggest scam. 💀🤣🗿😭💀 bro I actually got my ticket still 💀🤣 I wasted my money for nothing💀
The black and gold era of NXT and NXT UK poached a lot of their talent. I’d argue WWE specifically made NXT UK to suppress the British Indy scene at the time because something like WCPW was so white hot. It was in a way competition to B&G era NXT with hardcore wrestling fans.
I think nxt UK was made in response to 'World of sport' potentially coming back full time and they went around poaching talent and handshaking with companies like ICW.
@@shadow_strike9956Indeed NXT UK took so much talent from WCPW. Then a large portion of What Culture left to start a different YT channel and everything about WPCW was dead.
Honestly if EC3 wanted to make control your narrative it’s own little promotion then all they had to do was have the promotions message be “if you’ve been mistreated by the bigger promotions like wwe, AEW and so on then come here and we will help you rebuild yourself.” If that was the goal of the promotion then it could of had some success.
Honestly I don't CYN is as bad as people make it out to be. Was it perfect? Absolutely not, but I liked the idea and I'll give them credit for trying something different. This channel really has a hate fetish for CYN
The one thing that really broke the deal for me was the camerawork. Those many cuts and weird ankles they filmed from and that dark lighting and dissaturated colours just made it difficult to watch the shows without really adding anything for me.
I swear to god that in my entire life as a wrestling fan, I've never seem something cringier and creepy as that 'control your narrative' thing, that was dead from the get go
Clearly, you haven’t watched very much professional rasslin, if *that* was the cringest thing you’ve seen….furthermore, while it may have been a little bit cringe, how was it ‘creeepy’…? In what way..? 🤨
One thing to add on for WCPW/Defiant was the fact the adpocalypse really did damage to them and wrestling channels on TH-cam as a whole. They brought up how a match between Rey Mysterio and Alberto El Patron in a World Cup of wrestling qualifier had over a million views but the monetizing they caught was very low.
How did anyone ever agree to the name "Control Your Narrative"? Why not something cooler, like "Freeze My Pudding Pops", or "Giblet Your Bellybutton Lint"
I feel like CYN could have worked... as a stable, not a promotion. Like, when they showed up on the RoH show, it felt exciting, and the idea of a stable all about "taking control of your destiny" would be cool. Part weird wrestling cult, part motivational seminar. You just have them show up in other promotions, offering people "salvation from stagnation" or some bullshit like that, and causing problems in the name of "giving you freedom." Hell, you can even keep the weird set of rules, make it like a stipulating they use, matches with them are contested under CYN rules, meaning they can still jump you if you use the moves they don't like you using and all that. It could have worked... but it didn't.
@@marcbasil Which is a shame. He really did try, it was just an idea that really needed someone with more experience to just say "hey, this doesn't really work, maybe they this instead"
I saw the Hulkamania tour. Expectations were pretty low but everyone had a great time. No one was expecting more than a greatest hits tour. You wouldn't watch it twice but it wasn't embarrassing.
Unfortunately there's no one to blame but Mike Quackenbush. The Speaking Out movement in 2020 showed that most of Chikara's internal problems could be traced back to him.
I will always love WCPW it was great watching it grow and change wish I had went to some of their shows seeing Adam power bombed with pants down is a memory..paciti costing Kirby..the swords of Essex … Rey mysterio I believe faced will osprey there? Damn what a time to be alive.
Note U can still watch all the WCPW/Defiant wrestling shows on YT. They've keep the page running and rumours (in jest) contiune to swirl around Whatculture Wrestling about a return show.
Lucha Underground was a huge cult phenomenon with clean matches and badass storylines and it should've lasted longer while Wrestlelicious is was and forever will be a complete waste of time and as for WSX it did had several young talents but the storylines are a mess and it didnt last
@@metsandjetsfan5174i feel like what WSX suffered from the most was the very limited time slot. while some promotions had episodes nearing an hour or so their episodes were an average of 18-20 minutes, so a lot of the matches were very fast paced and they had little time to build any storyline. but the ridiculous matches and cool named they had are what made it entertaining!
Lucha Underground This Show Introduced Me To Pentagon Jr. Rey Fenix (my personal favorite) Brian Cage Anjelico Jack Evans Ivelise and those are the ones I know atleast El Rey was a better network Than BET the Irony of a Mexican American Network entertaining me more than a Black network
It's kind of a shame. LU really ended on a cliffhanger with a Bad News Barrett appearance, Dario Cueto coming back to life, and Jake Hager/Strong as the final Lucha Underground Champion. We also never really got to see Hexagon Black (portrayed by Australian Suicide) have a match and the teased feud with Pentagon. They never even explictly introduced him on TV.
TH-cam demonetization played a BIG role to the death of WCPW. Strange for a prominent TH-cam channel to not mention that. Great video nonetheless- would love a part 2 talking about Global Force Wrestling and Lucha Underground
Maybe wrong word choice. Essentially, youtube raised the bar on views to revenue so it was no longer viable for any promotion broadcasting on youtube to make money.
Lucia Underground was not just one of my favorite wrestling promotions but one of my favorite TV shows period. Making use of the TV format to combine pro wrestling and superhero-style stories was brilliant. We all know we're not watching a real competition so there's no reason to present pro wrestling as a essentially a more colorful version of an MMA promotion.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 seriously. Are these pencil-necked twurps serious with this ..? This is the second video I’ve watched on this channel, and the cringe keeps on increasing
I attended that Sydney show - it was honestly.......not the worst live show I've ever seen. Total nostalgia, but not horrible. (Dennis Rodman's Superstars of Wrestling was way worse). However, I have friends who worked backstage (or "worked" backstage, to be more accurate) at the Hogan show in Sydney and they have some hilarious backstage and after-party anecdotes.
@@user-zb3hn6ho9p I'm from Dublin Georgia it was a real pro wrestling company in Warner robins Georgia it was filmed live at one of the kid's fun Parks it was a real pro wrestling company because I watched it every single Saturday morning at 9 it was a hour show great talent like Hot like lava and the usual suspects tag team's
Mr. Kennedy, Val Venis, and the Godfather have all spoke very highly of the Hulk Hogan's wrestling tour in Australia. In fact Mr Kennedy talked about it how they were getting paid good money, they got to stay in nice hotels, and they went out drinking and partying and getting to enjoy Australia. I can understand, because I've also been to Australia and I really enjoyed it very much.
I started watching Defiant right around the time I started to get back into watching wrestling in 2018 and for a free show on TH-cam it was fun though I can see how blowing their money load on big names probably while good short term would make things harder going forward.
*I used to watch WCPW religiously on free TV ofc, right when I was burnt out from watching terrible product in WWE, WCPW introduced me to a lot of stars in Pete Dunne, Joe Hendry, Will Ospreay, Martin Kirby (yes I loved the guy), Bea Priestley (now Blair Davenport), Big Damo (Killian Dain), El Ligero (super underrated), and oh a young, bland raw babyface in Gabriel Kidd (now Gabe Kidd in NJPW) and the Moustache Mountain (Tyler Bate and Trent Seven) just to name a few. I'm glad I got to watch that time in British wrestling, I re-watched the WCPW World Cup from time to time because it was THAT good, I just wish they stuck around longer.*
It would be interesting to hear about what happened with TNA's All Wheels Wrestling, Nickelodeon's WACK Wrestling, and Underworld Wrestling. Underworld was very interesting. It's basically Australian Lucha Underground on a lower budget, but what really grabbed my attention was how they had rules and a points system, which was how wrestlers earned title shots. I've watched 2 free shows they've uploaded to TH-cam, but I think you can watch nearly all of their episodes for free on Tubi. (There's ads, but ad blockers work.) It's definitely a unique concept for a fight club vibe.
@@duckmercy11 WACK (Wrestling Association of Championship Krushers) was Nick's attempt at a wrestling show back in like 2007, and all the wrestlers were basically in mascot/character suits. It only lasted a Thanksgiving special and several TV spots I think. There was also an online game, too. You can find some footage online. Here's footage of the Thanksgiving special. There were only two televised matches total. th-cam.com/video/RvIp719IEtQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=j0_e55MdAcE3PgN9 The only other wrestling that aired on Nickelodeon was The Miz VS Big Show for the Slime Wrestling Championship with Santino Marella as the referee at the 2012 Kids Choice Awards. th-cam.com/video/wvBage1rWng/w-d-xo.htmlsi=utGwS1KmtFeg6dbz
I will always have a positive view of wcpw/defiant. I was rehabbing from multiple brain surgeries when I found roh and got back into the scene. The world cup introduced me to so many great British and indy stars. It seemed like a hidden gem on TH-cam that definitely wouldn't be around forever given how expensive it must have been to bring all those people in. The rebranding was necessary, but the pivot strategically definitely dampened my interest over time
Flip Gordon, that's a name I haven't heard in a while. I am honestly amazed he's not in AEW considering how tight he was with the Young Bucks and the The Elite back in the NJPW/ROH days.
When i hear wcpc i remember all those awesome matches ... specially women hardcore matches... btw do anyone know where is marting kirby... idont see him anywhere after wcpw fall
Control Your Narrative, WCPW, & A Hulkamania Tour Show?!?! That's it? Where's Herb Abram's UWF? Where's the AWF? Where's the Heroes of Wrestling? This video can be better than just the Narrative of CYN, WCPW, & a Hogan Produced Show
I was gonna say XPW, but I forgot scuzzball Rob Black brought the promotion back from the dead after DSOTR did an episode about it.
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I caught CYN one night after work at 1 in the morning. I caught it on free vee's live tv channels buried at the bottom of the guide. 38 years of watching wrestling and it was a pile of crap. What so many of these companies don't seem to get is the PPV stuff. It took Ring of Honor what 8 or 9 years before they could pull one off??? And even up to that point they weren't on tv. You still had to buy event DVD's, tickets to live shows, or a few matches on TH-cam. Everybody wants to be what ROH was, but they don't want to put in the work that earned ROH it's respect.
WES (Wrestling Entertainment Series) which first PPV was going to be at Nottingham motor point. Until it was cancelled. I don't blame Akam & Rezar the AOP. I believe that the managerial people bit off more than they can chew by trying to obtain former WWE wrestlers that were released by the promotion during the pandemic.
The big problem with WCPW was that the WhatCulture employees who created/ran it all got screwed over by management so left to make their own channel (Cultaholic) and the people left couldn't run a wrestling promotion anywhere near as well.
its my understanding that wcpw was a lot more like a passion project bringing in big names for cross promotion dream matches that would never happen between said promotions. it was a great idea honestly.
CYN shouldn't be shit on, it's how innovation happens. They did this with their own budget. All IN had some budget from Bucks and Cody but lets not act like that would've been shot well or even possible without ROH and NJPW at the time. especially for distribution they didn't have to pay for.
WCPW was amazing. Free to watch, like you said jump started a load of careers. It’s a shame it closed, had serious potential. Was one of my favourite promotions.
I think what really put the nail in the coffin for what cultural pro wrestling is because they were too dependent on ad revenue to pay their talent and when the adocalypse happened that's where everything was thrown into disarray and that's what led to them closing their doors for good it tells you don't put your eggs into one basket
The CYN should’ve been a faction invading indie promotions not its own promotion
Yeah
CYN is a great stable name but a really stupid one for a company.
@@mrjh637 absolutely
@@Celticgamer89 Control Your Narrative in a fake sport where you have no control of the narrative.
I believe they tried that before strowman went back to WWE . lol
Even though CYN came to a close, it took even longer for EC3 to stop talking like a quiet, cryptic creep, and return to his boastful ways.
He had massive head trauma that never got treated properly. He was also messed up from that awful debacle he dealt with in the Fed
But did chaos ever ensue in the PROJECT PIT?
and went to doing white powder with Corgan.
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah but said one 💀🤣 bro it was going to be a big deal. It was gonna be a big deal. Yeah yeah yeah it was gonna be a big deal. They got some big stars. Oh yeah, oh yeah it was gonna be a big deal. No way bro no way bro it was the biggest scam. 💀🤣🗿😭💀 bro I actually got my ticket still 💀🤣 I wasted my money for nothing💀
@@marcbasil Well, that explains things.
WCPW had a really good roster especially the international stars but it changed and just became another british indy company
The black and gold era of NXT and NXT UK poached a lot of their talent.
I’d argue WWE specifically made NXT UK to suppress the British Indy scene at the time because something like WCPW was so white hot. It was in a way competition to B&G era NXT with hardcore wrestling fans.
I think nxt UK was made in response to 'World of sport' potentially coming back full time and they went around poaching talent and handshaking with companies like ICW.
@@shadow_strike9956Indeed NXT UK took so much talent from WCPW. Then a large portion of What Culture left to start a different YT channel and everything about WPCW was dead.
Yeah wcpw was good stuff, the way the crowd popped for Sandow toweling the ropes was hilarious 😂😂
well yea it was a victim of nxt uk, it killed the british indy scene for a long time
I remember Strowman saying CYN would outlast AEW
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well they should've brought back the flips and super kicks 😂
And strowman is a no body like wyatt
@@ants5449bray strongman is more of somebody than many are like many aew agreed bray and strongman is better than see roster
@@ants5449 you know whose a real nobody ? Danhausen dudes ass can’t wrestle can’t talk and his gimmick is cringe
Honestly if EC3 wanted to make control your narrative it’s own little promotion then all they had to do was have the promotions message be “if you’ve been mistreated by the bigger promotions like wwe, AEW and so on then come here and we will help you rebuild yourself.”
If that was the goal of the promotion then it could of had some success.
Honestly I don't CYN is as bad as people make it out to be. Was it perfect? Absolutely not, but I liked the idea and I'll give them credit for trying something different. This channel really has a hate fetish for CYN
If that was his mission statement he would be sued immediately. Stick to your day job pal
The one thing that really broke the deal for me was the camerawork. Those many cuts and weird ankles they filmed from and that dark lighting and dissaturated colours just made it difficult to watch the shows without really adding anything for me.
Is that you ec3? @@dwightyboy5324
@Archangel-ct1iq why would they be sued lol
I swear to god that in my entire life as a wrestling fan, I've never seem something cringier and creepy as that 'control your narrative' thing, that was dead from the get go
Clearly, you haven’t watched very much professional rasslin, if *that* was the cringest thing you’ve seen….furthermore, while it may have been a little bit cringe, how was it ‘creeepy’…? In what way..? 🤨
Katie Vick and Brandi Rhodes promos are close 😅
It was like EC3 skimmed the Wikipedia article on Postmodernism and tried to make a wrestling promotion based on it for some ungodly reason.
WCPW was fun, they pulled off a World Cup that was very entertaining and I still go back and watch from time to time
I remember when Hiromu Takahashi was on the semi finals, was so pumped he did so well!
One thing to add on for WCPW/Defiant was the fact the adpocalypse really did damage to them and wrestling channels on TH-cam as a whole. They brought up how a match between Rey Mysterio and Alberto El Patron in a World Cup of wrestling qualifier had over a million views but the monetizing they caught was very low.
How did anyone ever agree to the name "Control Your Narrative"?
Why not something cooler, like "Freeze My Pudding Pops", or "Giblet Your Bellybutton Lint"
😂😂😂😂
They could of just called it what it was, alt right fight nite
tf? what does "alt right" have to do with any of it?@@actuallynotsteve
@@benecheaseboreto7031 are you unaware that the whole show was run by loud and proud magas, and that this is why they were relegated to the indies?
It’s rage bait.
I feel like CYN could have worked... as a stable, not a promotion.
Like, when they showed up on the RoH show, it felt exciting, and the idea of a stable all about "taking control of your destiny" would be cool.
Part weird wrestling cult, part motivational seminar. You just have them show up in other promotions, offering people "salvation from stagnation" or some bullshit like that, and causing problems in the name of "giving you freedom."
Hell, you can even keep the weird set of rules, make it like a stipulating they use, matches with them are contested under CYN rules, meaning they can still jump you if you use the moves they don't like you using and all that.
It could have worked... but it didn't.
He didn’t have the capital/people working with him. Bless him, but it was EC on his MacBook in a coffee shoppe
@@marcbasil Which is a shame. He really did try, it was just an idea that really needed someone with more experience to just say "hey, this doesn't really work, maybe they this instead"
Your idea is worse
"Being part of the 24/7 jobber division." -☠️💯.
Wasn’t that funni
@@marcbasil Oh, yeah? Hey, that's cool. Thanks for your support.
I saw the Hulkamania tour. Expectations were pretty low but everyone had a great time. No one was expecting more than a greatest hits tour. You wouldn't watch it twice but it wasn't embarrassing.
It’s crazy how they named it Control Your Narrative but then immediately Control someone’s Narrative 😂
😂🤣🤣💀💀
Still pissed about the fall of CHIKARA... :(
It was full of sexual predators and I’m glad it was shut down.
Shimmer too 😢
Around the early to mid 2010s they were doing good.
Unfortunately there's no one to blame but Mike Quackenbush. The Speaking Out movement in 2020 showed that most of Chikara's internal problems could be traced back to him.
There's a decent "Dark Side of the Ring" ep on Chikara that could be made.
Surprised XWF and Wrestling Society X didn't make the list.
I will always love WCPW it was great watching it grow and change wish I had went to some of their shows seeing Adam power bombed with pants down is a memory..paciti costing Kirby..the swords of Essex … Rey mysterio I believe faced will osprey there? Damn what a time to be alive.
Note U can still watch all the WCPW/Defiant wrestling shows on YT. They've keep the page running and rumours (in jest) contiune to swirl around Whatculture Wrestling about a return show.
I think CYN was meant to be an anti-WWE kinda promotion if I’m understanding it correctly.
I'm hoping they do a second one of these which includes Lucha Underground, Wrestlelicious and Wrestling Society X.
Lucha Underground was a huge cult phenomenon with clean matches and badass storylines and it should've lasted longer while Wrestlelicious is was and forever will be a complete waste of time and as for WSX it did had several young talents but the storylines are a mess and it didnt last
My uncle actually trained Joey Kaous from Wrestaling Society X
@@miw24601 That's excellent
@@metsandjetsfan5174i feel like what WSX suffered from the most was the very limited time slot. while some promotions had episodes nearing an hour or so their episodes were an average of 18-20 minutes, so a lot of the matches were very fast paced and they had little time to build any storyline. but the ridiculous matches and cool named they had are what made it entertaining!
Lucha Underground This Show Introduced Me To Pentagon Jr. Rey Fenix (my personal favorite) Brian Cage Anjelico Jack Evans Ivelise and those are the ones I know atleast El Rey was a better network Than BET the Irony of a Mexican American Network entertaining me more than a Black network
It's kind of a shame. LU really ended on a cliffhanger with a Bad News Barrett appearance, Dario Cueto coming back to life, and Jake Hager/Strong as the final Lucha Underground Champion. We also never really got to see Hexagon Black (portrayed by Australian Suicide) have a match and the teased feud with Pentagon. They never even explictly introduced him on TV.
Why is that ironic?
0:26 Of course.
4:48 Such potential.
CYN was also partially responsible for taking out the NWA.
TH-cam demonetization played a BIG role to the death of WCPW. Strange for a prominent TH-cam channel to not mention that.
Great video nonetheless- would love a part 2 talking about Global Force Wrestling and Lucha Underground
Why were they demonetized? Just because it's wrestling?
Maybe wrong word choice. Essentially, youtube raised the bar on views to revenue so it was no longer viable for any promotion broadcasting on youtube to make money.
Don't forget about old Grapey Adam!
@@jamestoney6599 The OG WC/WCPW guys had already left to form Cultaholic before the stuff about Adam came out.
@@jamestoney6599 learn your facts before spouting off
Love the Thumbnails man! I like the art style
I miss lucha underground
Lucia Underground was not just one of my favorite wrestling promotions but one of my favorite TV shows period. Making use of the TV format to combine pro wrestling and superhero-style stories was brilliant. We all know we're not watching a real competition so there's no reason to present pro wrestling as a essentially a more colorful version of an MMA promotion.
WCW 2000 vs CYN
Which was Worse?
CYN was worse
WCW in 2000 was a hot mess but it's still more entertaining than CYN
@@Zxlxya I'm not sure... How about CYN vs Heroes of Wrestling then?
At least people remember WCW 2000 so there's that.
CYN
I'm surprised Wrestling Society X wasn't listed here. Maybe in the next list with Lucha Underground
This video was a joke. What even is this channel?
@@marcbasilmeat riding
Women of Wrestling (2000, eventually returned over a decade later). Wrestlicious. Lucha Libre USA. Ring Warriors.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 seriously. Are these pencil-necked twurps serious with this ..? This is the second video I’ve watched on this channel, and the cringe keeps on increasing
I attended that Sydney show - it was honestly.......not the worst live show I've ever seen. Total nostalgia, but not horrible. (Dennis Rodman's Superstars of Wrestling was way worse). However, I have friends who worked backstage (or "worked" backstage, to be more accurate) at the Hogan show in Sydney and they have some hilarious backstage and after-party anecdotes.
You forgot about rpw rampage pro wrestling from Warner robins Georgia
As someone who's from the Middle Georgia area, I have never heard of this promotion 'til now. I wonder what it was like...
These comments are dumb, there have been hundreds of promotions. He didn't forget them.
@@user-zb3hn6ho9p I'm from Dublin Georgia it was a real pro wrestling company in Warner robins Georgia it was filmed live at one of the kid's fun Parks it was a real pro wrestling company because I watched it every single Saturday morning at 9 it was a hour show great talent like Hot like lava and the usual suspects tag team's
Control Your Narrative failed as soon as it was just a thought in EC3's mind
Mr. Kennedy, Val Venis, and the Godfather have all spoke very highly of the Hulk Hogan's wrestling tour in Australia. In fact Mr Kennedy talked about it how they were getting paid good money, they got to stay in nice hotels, and they went out drinking and partying and getting to enjoy Australia. I can understand, because I've also been to Australia and I really enjoyed it very much.
I started watching Defiant right around the time I started to get back into watching wrestling in 2018 and for a free show on TH-cam it was fun though I can see how blowing their money load on big names probably while good short term would make things harder going forward.
Cool video as always Tom 💯
Video was very informative also what's the background music name called?
I was surprised that you didn't include Lucha underground
Thank For the Video and Happy Easter Day 🥚🎨🖌️🖼️🐇🌟🥇🏆
Braun jumped ship real quick when he realized HHH is back
The thumbnail could’ve just as easily been Anthony Bowens 😂😂
When wwe debuted ec3 I thought he’d be huge. Couldn’t believe he ended up being a jobber
Roster was saturated.
My uncle was apart of control your narrative and I was surprised that it shut down and was failed for the start
WCPW was peak wrestling. I remember Joe hendry winning a match by stoppage because he gave Martin Kirby a massive lump on his head
*I used to watch WCPW religiously on free TV ofc, right when I was burnt out from watching terrible product in WWE, WCPW introduced me to a lot of stars in Pete Dunne, Joe Hendry, Will Ospreay, Martin Kirby (yes I loved the guy), Bea Priestley (now Blair Davenport), Big Damo (Killian Dain), El Ligero (super underrated), and oh a young, bland raw babyface in Gabriel Kidd (now Gabe Kidd in NJPW) and the Moustache Mountain (Tyler Bate and Trent Seven) just to name a few. I'm glad I got to watch that time in British wrestling, I re-watched the WCPW World Cup from time to time because it was THAT good, I just wish they stuck around longer.*
It would be interesting to hear about what happened with TNA's All Wheels Wrestling, Nickelodeon's WACK Wrestling, and Underworld Wrestling.
Underworld was very interesting. It's basically Australian Lucha Underground on a lower budget, but what really grabbed my attention was how they had rules and a points system, which was how wrestlers earned title shots. I've watched 2 free shows they've uploaded to TH-cam, but I think you can watch nearly all of their episodes for free on Tubi. (There's ads, but ad blockers work.) It's definitely a unique concept for a fight club vibe.
Tell me about WACK Wrestling.
@@duckmercy11 WACK (Wrestling Association of Championship Krushers) was Nick's attempt at a wrestling show back in like 2007, and all the wrestlers were basically in mascot/character suits. It only lasted a Thanksgiving special and several TV spots I think. There was also an online game, too. You can find some footage online.
Here's footage of the Thanksgiving special. There were only two televised matches total. th-cam.com/video/RvIp719IEtQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=j0_e55MdAcE3PgN9
The only other wrestling that aired on Nickelodeon was The Miz VS Big Show for the Slime Wrestling Championship with Santino Marella as the referee at the 2012 Kids Choice Awards.
th-cam.com/video/wvBage1rWng/w-d-xo.htmlsi=utGwS1KmtFeg6dbz
Wcpw rebranding to defiant wrestling ranks among the likes of tumblr removing porn as one of the dumbest decisions in history
That’s a shame that CYN ended. I was waiting for “Man Bun Jesus” to finally get that push he deserved.
You should do a video about IWA Midsouth folding.
There was also the fact that WCPW got demonitized, and the Adams, along with Jack, Ross, and Sam left to form Cultaholic.
I will always have a positive view of wcpw/defiant. I was rehabbing from multiple brain surgeries when I found roh and got back into the scene. The world cup introduced me to so many great British and indy stars. It seemed like a hidden gem on TH-cam that definitely wouldn't be around forever given how expensive it must have been to bring all those people in. The rebranding was necessary, but the pivot strategically definitely dampened my interest over time
Flip Gordon, that's a name I haven't heard in a while.
I am honestly amazed he's not in AEW considering how tight he was with the Young Bucks and the The Elite back in the NJPW/ROH days.
When i hear wcpc i remember all those awesome matches ... specially women hardcore matches... btw do anyone know where is marting kirby... idont see him anywhere after wcpw fall
Control Your Narrative, WCPW, & A Hulkamania Tour Show?!?! That's it? Where's Herb Abram's UWF? Where's the AWF? Where's the Heroes of Wrestling? This video can be better than just the Narrative of CYN, WCPW, & a Hogan Produced Show
I was gonna say XPW, but I forgot scuzzball Rob Black brought the promotion back from the dead after DSOTR did an episode about it.
I caught CYN one night after work at 1 in the morning. I caught it on free vee's live tv channels buried at the bottom of the guide. 38 years of watching wrestling and it was a pile of crap. What so many of these companies don't seem to get is the PPV stuff. It took Ring of Honor what 8 or 9 years before they could pull one off??? And even up to that point they weren't on tv. You still had to buy event DVD's, tickets to live shows, or a few matches on TH-cam. Everybody wants to be what ROH was, but they don't want to put in the work that earned ROH it's respect.
What also didn't help WCPW was half of their on screen talent leaving to start Cultaholic.
No mention of the Tri-State Wrestling Alliance, the predecessor to ECW?
Will always miss Lucha Underground. It had some cool mystique to it
Need to listen to Bischoffs podcast. Might be giving false info on the footage.
CYN and the Free The Narrative shows gave us a glimpse at what it would have been like if Onision started his own wrestling promotion. 💀
You gotta do Wrestlelicious. Not everyone did a video on Wrestlelicious except Wrestling With Wregret.
1:28 and yet it was sadly still the best thing Impact produced wince then.
TNA/Impact has suffered in so many times but they managed to survive!
Wiiiiii shop 🎵 I actually use this sometimes when I’m shopping for real in shops outside …..xD
Ayo what song is that in the outro?
WES (Wrestling Entertainment Series) which first PPV was going to be at Nottingham motor point. Until it was cancelled. I don't blame Akam & Rezar the AOP. I believe that the managerial people bit off more than they can chew by trying to obtain former WWE wrestlers that were released by the promotion during the pandemic.
The big problem with WCPW was that the WhatCulture employees who created/ran it all got screwed over by management so left to make their own channel (Cultaholic) and the people left couldn't run a wrestling promotion anywhere near as well.
Control Your Narrative is a great IDEA. A segment. But doing a full series out of it making it a promotion was just awful
Did the guy glitch on 3:50? What the hell was going on there 😂
Jarret's Global Force Wrestling
Are people forgetting that the game 5 Star Wrestling was once an actual promotion😭
Yes all those great wrestlers stopped into WCPW. For a one match photo shoot promotion for some quick cash. Defiant and WCPW sucked my dear lad.
its my understanding that wcpw was a lot more like a passion project bringing in big names for cross promotion dream matches that would never happen between said promotions. it was a great idea honestly.
CYN shouldn't be shit on, it's how innovation happens. They did this with their own budget. All IN had some budget from Bucks and Cody but lets not act like that would've been shot well or even possible without ROH and NJPW at the time. especially for distribution they didn't have to pay for.
WCPW was amazing. Free to watch, like you said jump started a load of careers. It’s a shame it closed, had serious potential. Was one of my favourite promotions.
Ec3 is the new mr Kennedy/anderson. All the talent in the world and Should have gone further.
I think EC3 is the definition of a guy who values his stock WAY higher than he should
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Kenny Omega do match with WCPW when the bucks came through??
nah
Rumors say that the three white lines on the sweatshirts they wore in CYN are a nod to the three lines of cocaine that EC3 usually snorts.
I kinda wish someone filmed all the HoganPPV
The creation of Cultaholic destroyed WCPW/ Defiant. You have to admit with both Adams leaving, they were doomed
Not me laughing at control your narrative only to find out they signed my favorite wrestler of all time
This was a Good vid but when you Umaga who remembers him I THInk a lot of us remember him R.I.P Umaga ❤❤🙏
Uhh everyone knows who he is. What’re you saying…?
"Mi-nori Suzuki" when did he become Minority
Yeah I mean FMW and UWF were also big and had to shut down
I think what really put the nail in the coffin for what cultural pro wrestling is because they were too dependent on ad revenue to pay their talent and when the adocalypse happened that's where everything was thrown into disarray and that's what led to them closing their doors for good it tells you don't put your eggs into one basket
Wasn't that like December of 2018? The adpocalypse
EC3 arrived at NWA still being that guy from CYN... but he DID turn it around, and is really back to doing good work.
Yes Control Your Narrative failed BUT EC3 picked himself up in the NWA and now has the 10lbs of gold
Better then tyrus that's all that matters
well that belt is about as useless as rotten food
Nwa😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah and NWA is as relevant as it was after TNA broke out of it, AKA nobody cares 😂
U forgot the part where suicide dive and superkicks were banned from CYN
Man EC3 was looking like SNL Andy Samberg doing his jobber days 😂
Also
- Jared Hasselhoff from Bloodhound Gang
- Luther Reigns
- Scott Adkins as Yuri Boyka
I really miss WCPW. It was very entertaining and I feel like they could’ve found more funding.
I guess we’re gonna ignore EC3’s very nice run in NXT
man i was hoping to see here "ring ka king" jayzee lahoria is a cool guy by the way
WCPW had to change their name because there was already a wrestling company in America using the WCPW name
What about XWF? Or does that count as the Hulk Hogan Tour?
I'm glad EC3 watched Fight Club. It's a great movie and powerful message.
dude i FORGOT about CYN, holy smokes.
WCPW ruined themselves by braking kayfabe before they started. On top of that they kept calling their first ppv the wrestlemania of their promotion.
The Hogan tour sounds good, having some wWe released talent and order now legends. Hopefully he releases the DVD
What about the one that AOP did or tried to do?
WESUK 🤣
Oh god Id never connected the dots that WCPW was whatculture
Was it actually that dark for CYN?