i agree with this theory but if Martin was real and he wanted to die passing the worms to Boyd was the only way cause he claimed they were keeping him alive. but i don't trust Martin 😂😂 i don't trust the boy in whit too sorry 😂😂 Fromville has me second guessing all the supernatural entities
It totally made sense to me. I thought it was really odd that when Boyd asked Martin questions, he conveniently changed the subject. Boyd was so scared and thrown off, he just wanted out and was trying to save Martin. Move now, questions later.
I think it the Clown was my first in season 1now i think its a combo of lost serie but its Simple the are connected think i see combo lost frome en robots serie i think there are more combinatian not 1 but more i hoop
to be honest up until this point i havent thought about it either, plus in character when he is in there he is confused scared and in that state you tend to miss these things
But being teleported by a hole in a tree , and a magical music box showing up in the same room they are in isn't questioned at all . yeah the rope dropping is definitely so weird *Eye roll* lol@@mikycze9177
@@mikycze9177 yeah he just got out of a hole he thought he would be trapped in for who knows how long, just appeared in a dungeon with a dude chained up, the last thought on his mind would be who gave me the rope. I'm just glad to be out
Sara also said that once all 3 die (Julie, Marielle and Randall) that it would be all over and would be too late. Martin kept asking Boyd to kill him. He was the only one left out of the last 3 victims. I think when it was clear Boyd wasn’t going to kill him the worms were passed on to try and find 3 new victims that would die and set the “Boogeyman” free permanently.
I've been saying that the Bottles contain evil entities that are trapped in this little terrarium. Boyd took down one of the bottles after Sarah told him not to. There's an empty bottle in the stairs of the Lighthouse in Tabby's dream. Boyd says stopping the music "might be the last chance to put the genie back into the bottle". Too many bottles not to be connected.
adding on to your point, its a mythology that you can trap evil spirts in bottles that dates back centuries and is also believed in many cultures around the world
If there's really a Stephen King connection, then the bottles holding evil spirits/entities match's King's novels Desperation and The Regulators. Both have a cave with small bottles and clay vessels with evil inside.
Shoot just the title of those two is pretty powerful when applied to these From explanations/theories even without information about what’s in the stories
It was Martin all along and we were introduced to this season's monster from the start but never really figured it out. The fact that he threw the rope while tied up was a give away and then transferring the worms onto Boyd so that he could get into town. Martin shape shifting into Abby trying to confuse Boyd and ep9 who appeared after the slow walkers just stood there like never before...it was Abby in the RV.
@@jasoncaldwell5627 No one ever mentions the lake in their theories. Certainly the Lake of Tears has something to do with this. Ethan mentioned "seeing" it in Season 1 even though he's never been to The Brundles and Elgin's reaction looked fearful. Ironically, it's the only place they have fun.
@@christiemccarthy5294 I think the Brundels is the Lake Of Tears- I've said so before but maybe not here. I think the little kids in white were drowned there and their bodies are still at the bottom. That's my guess.
I posted this before somewhere else, I read this interesting theory- that Julie, Randall, Mary had white eyes because it was their souls that was chained up in the prison, and Martin had normal eyes because his body is already dead, hence normal eyes…
@@EmansReviews but one thing I don't get with the theory is that it was Nathan's fear of cicadas, so why didn't Nathan die from cicadas or why did cicadas not start to show up until after Nathan died. the entity heard Nathan's fear and just applied it to everyone else?
@@b1bbscraz3y actually this was something I missed before making the video. Whether Nathan was alive or not did not matter. The entity still knew people's fears and took on that form. For example, in ep 9 of season 1, Boyd demonstrated a fear of worms. And what did Martin just so happen to pass on to Boyd? That's right... Worms. So it's less about who or when someone is dead and more about when a fear is known or expressed, the evil entity has access to use it. Make sense?
I believe the "feed off fear" theory because when the monsters surrounded the bus and the character started screaming "I'm not afraid of you" they abruptly left him alone.
@@maricelaaguilera5451Nah that ghost Abby or whatever was probably an evil hallucination of the monster, she also said not to destroy the music box but Boyd did and it actually saved Julie, Randel and Marielle
Martin was a real person. his name is on the board in the post office as people who arrived in the town. His name appears directly beside victors name. Victor would know who Martin is, if anyone ever asked him.
If only they would talk to each other........it's very annoying Wouldn't you think , in a place like that , if anything wierd happened to you the first thing you would do is tell someone !??! They need to have daily or weekly meetings and say something if they've seen or heard anything......!
Yes! I couldnt agree more! I never trusted Martin. I felt like Martin was the evil entity, and he was using Boyd's need to save others, against him. He used Boyd to release the evil when it infected him with the worms. "My blood is your blood now. He knew about Boyd's wife, and he was the only one there that could have thrown Boyd the rope. The same evil entity uses Abby's visage to trick Boyd and prevent Boyd from stopping the music. Boyd wised up and didn't listen to fake Abby. He broke the music box, and thwarted the entity's plans.
I think everyone who "comes to" from the experiment wakes up in that hospital and that's why they emphasized the name and the logo. Tabitha definitely grew on me. The chemistry between her and Jim and the way they flipped the script from the 1st episode is so good
For me the bodies being gone including Martin's when Boyd returns is explainable. We know that place isn't in the physical realm as Julie, Randal & Maryelle's bodies were physically in town but spiritually trapped in that dungeon/tower.
@@AlexciaNicolewell Abby showed up and disappeared so it had to be somewhat a dream or hallucination to some extent, in the physical world that doesn’t happen. Or it does but it not real
If it were true then wouldn't the dead skeletons be gone once the person literally died? I don't think it's consistent which is why I think Martin, and everything else was all part of the ruse. Remember the evil entity was laughing at Boyd... Makes more sense that it would laugh if there was a trick that was pulled.
i don’t think it’s about not being fearful but rather about attacking them back and being brave despite being fearful. that may explain the reason why they still attacked people who were not fearful (because jot aware of what they were).
Consider this: Puppets. From the first scene in the RV with Julie and Ethan playing with finger puppets. The ventriloquist dummy keeps showing up, and even the stance of the captured three (now and in the past) are of marionettes who scream on cue.
This show worries me even though I love it. They’ve thrown so much at us in two seasons. I don’t see how it all adds up. Y’all read and tell me what’s going on and if I missed anything. Tree in road, crows, monsters, talismans, boy in white, dogs, civil war soldiers, man in cellar screaming, symbols, Christopher, tunnels, cave drawings, Sara’s voices, marks on her arm, spiders, lighthouse, faraway trees, bottles, dates, voice Jim heard, Jim’s bracelet, how does power work, diner juke boxes, ventriloquist doll, girl with rod through head, Martin, chamber, rope, ballerina and music box, blood worms, cicadas, nursery rhyme, Elgins vision nightmare, the screeching at night, the children, Ethan’s stories, the voice on phone, Fatima’s pregnancy, quick healing, the bile, Boyd’s Parkinson’s, season change, the brundels. I hope these people know what they are doing.
Let's add... trees moving, seeing ghosts, the dates in tabithas dreams, Christopher's journal, the weird tree root symbol, the ghost kids, the miraculous electricity that comes from nowhere, the car graveyard, Victor's creepy drawings, the dog, Kristi's girlfriend showing up, Elgins dream on the bus... I could probably go on.
Season 2 was scarier and had more action, BUT sadly they're spinning around the plot and the only redeeming aspect of this series is the last scene where Tabitha finds herself in the hospital. Either they're in alternate reality or this is all am experiment.
I have a theory, now hear me out. What if Victor witnessed a horrible situation, like Christopher who was beloved by the town, started killing people. He became a maniac and started shooting everyone, killing his sister and his mother. Maybe such traumatic event and pain he felt cause him to somehow create this crazy loop where all his fears live and torment others? That is why he's simple, while as boy, he seemed normal. Only when we start to dig deeper into his mind do crazier things start to come out.
What do you think about this: When Boyd met Martin in the tower, there were 2 other skeletons there. What if Martin was actually Randall and the other skeletons belonged to Marielle and Julie. They are very careful not to disclose Randall's last name. What if it's Martin, and he is in the Marines. He acts like he could have PTSD like many from the military. They also don't show his arms that could have the tattoo that was seen on Martin's upper arm.....We know time has no barriers in the Fromplace. So Martin could be Randall, who was the last surviving captive.
Randell let it be know upfront he was in military but do we know Randell his first name or last name because 95% military still to this day go by they last name
Awesome theory my dude! I was thinking along the same lines with Martin, the worms, visions of Abby and the cicadas being linked to the same “monster” just didn’t link the boogeyman. The fact his eyes weren’t greyed out and he could hold a conversation unlike the three taken by the cicadas was a big giveaway Martin wasn’t necessarily a “real” person. Pretty certain Martin was just another shape shift like when it also presents as Abby and the worms. Loving this show so much, season 3 feels soooo far away!! Great video man keep up the good work 🤘🏻
My theory is that whatever built the world they’re in and whatever controls it can also read minds and control their dreams. The dream imagery is everywhere in the show. For me, Tabitha proves that they’re in a shared dream world and the only way out is to die in the dream. Abby was right and she’s visiting Boyd in her dreams and telling him the truth. If you stop trying to survive the place you get out. The place is a lot like a game that resets when people exit, new people enter. Resources are provided when you try to stay like chickens and goats, but they get taken away if you attempt to leave. Abby , Iron Abby who doesn’t break, was sane. She remembers a dream from her childhood when she’s in Fromland because she’s Eloise and she was there before. She also remembers how she left and how to get out so she is actually freeing people. She’s now contacting them through her dreams to help them get back to her. The jukebox leads Boyd to the lighthouse. Later it plays In Dreams by Roy Orbison during a Boyd montage. The trailer for season two plays Dream a Little Dream. Tons of pictures in the opening of sequence are of beds and a monster taking one from their bed. El Cucuy or onkoowie takes bad kids from their beds, so this is somehow a part of the story as well. It’s depicted in the opening sequence. But dreams are the key and dying is the way out just like we typically awake before we die in dreams. There’s so many dream clues obviously with the sleeping attacks, everyone sees the tree when they arrive, Donna makes Fatima a dreamcatcher, etc. Yes, Donna is sus. So is Tilly, I think she might be Victor’s mom. Victor, Abby and Tilly look ALOT alike and the ages seem to match up for them as well.
My theory is that when people die in from land they return to the real world and leave the dream world. So anyone who dies there would actually still be alive. I think Victor’s mom might have found a way back in to be with him before she dies of cancer. As others have mentioned, Tilly seems familiar with the place and more comfortable than you’d expect from someone new. She also just looks a lot like the actress who plays young Victor’s mom.
After seeing how the others had white eyes and were incoherent when trapped inside I think Martin was lying 100%. I also don’t think he went back in time, I think Martin was actually trapped in the present. Makes me wonder where his body is if he actually died, the others had physical bodies outside so where was Martin actually? I think Martin was the same as Abby and possibly Tom the bartender when talking to Jade, just using an appearance to manipulate them while they think it’s themselves. I think the main goal is going to end up being Fatima’s baby. She was given ability to conceive by the town so it’s possible she’s just a surrogate for a half human half dreamland baby that monster will be able to physically control
Maybe the script writer is having a hard time to connect the story what their begin with 😂 That is why the plot story is now going here, there and everywhere.
I think the worms under Boyd's skin were the cicadas. I think Martin purposely transferred them to Boyd to make Boyd think he might have a weapon ro fight back at the monster's with. But when in reality it was more of this place's evil coming for them. Specifically the 3 the cicadas captured, and unless he stopped that music box those 3 captured may have become smiley monsters themselves. And I think a new cycle may have begun as well.
I think “Martin tricking Boyd thinking the worms is a weapon” is false because Boyd had no intention in the first to give the blood to the monsters only when he needed to pass it on to save his son is when he did it so I don’t think that’s the case
So I think you could be right...in 'Lost' there is a mysterious evil entity on the island called 'the man in black' and not only does he want to leave the island where he's trapped, but he can also shape shift, he is technically 'the monster' in the story, he uses dead people to manipulate other people by taking their form, he can cause visions AND during one episode he took the form of SPIDERS and bit 2 people, causing them to become paralyzed! The people on the island trying to keep him on the island describe him as 'evil incarnate' so yeah sounds kind of like a boogeyman to me
Yep, I been getting "Man in Black" vibes for a while now. I agree with much of Eman's theory, but I like the way you put it better..."a" boogeyman, not "thee" boogeyman. My issue is why would a supernatural entity be connected to a music box, with its abilities heightened & weakened by its use or non-use. That leads me to believe that this boogeyman is more human in nature, but evil corrupted, a-la man in black. And this person at one time had a connection to the music box. My 2 cent.
1. They're physically too strong and aggressive 2. They're always in groups 3. I'm sure people have died trying to capture or kill 4. Bullets dont work
"When I'm trying to see if a theory I have has merit, the 1st thing I try to do is disprove it" That.....sounds like a very effective thought exercise. That never occurred to me. Thanks
Aye! Back on the theory grind! Love to see it! I’m still waiting for Sara to explain to someone that the reason she was trying to kill Ethan was because her arm told her to. Really thought that may have been connected to the worms Boyd had/ the season 2,monster. Starting to believe it’s just another mystery that needs explaining.
Edited: Donna has been the mole, Victor is the one who has the answers and Donna has been manipulating him and Tilly is a returnee of the place having 7 pale ghost kids.
Donna doesn’t have the answers u forget victor is the one that has been there the longest..that’s literally what his whole character is center around ..the tragic kid that literally “grew up” in that nightmare town ..
I think martin was a hallucination. He was able to hurt Boyd because the music was playing just like kenny got burned by the cicada while hallucinating while the music was playing. That also explains why martins body wasnt there when boyd returned. It was the boogeyman trying to get boyd to carry his curse back to town
I think the town is the purgatory youre in while in a coma. Tabitha being found on a trail kinda confirms this. The rv is really in the ditch ,her family is unconscious in the RV and she went for help before succumbing to her injury
Good theory. My side theory: the dungeon is not a real place. It's a mindscape/illusion/dream or something. The Anywhere tree sent Boyd to the ruin where he appeared to leave and returned to the dungeon. This explains the rope, dungeon cleaning service, and the new three prisoners being there in the dungeon as well as in a different location at the same time.
Does this make sense that Monsters just stopped coming to RV when Boyd, Donna, Jim and Randals were in RV and music starts..that indicates that whatever they or it is, even monsters are scared of them..
The Music On is definitely related to monster activity, Sirens lured sailors with their songs, Irish Imps would sing to lure children into lakes and.....in a reversal, Hamelin lured rats from a town with music as well. So, there is something there. Thanks man.
Okay....just your intro has me intrigued.😊 I'm only about a minute in. Lol. I'm listening to all the theories from different people while I wait for Season 3!!!
A few common associations with the boogeyman is that he punishes disobedience, lives in the dark places like the woods at night, and scratches outside your windows at night. I wondered if this might be a fairytale like show. The boogeyman does match up nicely.
Going back to season 1, Sarah described to Father Khatri who They were, that they had been there for a very long time and used to be like them (the people in town). Sarah mentions they were looking for a way to escape, to go home. They watched Khatri bury the bag, proving they exist via communication thru Sarah. Maybe its more than one entity, maybe some sort of spiritual phenomenon in a parallel world, where a big ass tree in the road results in a shift in the physical world around you. I wonder if It or They put the tree in the roads located all around the country for each person who arrived in this town.
I went back and re-watched Martins scenes in Episode 1-2. I believe he was in fact a real person, trapped there by an even worse evil being but possessed by the entity as you dubbed it "the boogeyman" which came out in Martin once the music stopped.
I think your right about the boogie man theory. This town is about taking advantage of your fears like spiders, cicadas, ventriloquist dummies, etc. but who is on the other side telling them the truth to break the music. The one that told them the nursery rhyme. It’s interesting that a nursery rhyme is something we tell children and is the children’s nursery rhyme that help kill the boogie man’s plan. And the children’s crayon drawings that solves the answers to the town’s mysteries. Who tells us nursery rhymes and who tells us to draw crayon pictures? Our mother. Victor’s mother tells her kids to make the crayon drawings. Who comforts us in the real world when we get a bad dream with the boogie man. Our mothers. Remember in season one when Ethan’s mother, Tabitha confronts Ethan when he gets fear or is scared of the monster that killed his finger puppets. She says to Ethan there is no such things as monsters. Mothers always comfort us from the boogie man or monsters in our dreams. So I think Victor’s mother is the one that is sending them the clues on how to stop the monsters. It was Victor’s mother I believe that sent them the clue about the nursery rhyme. Who makes us feel better when we have a bad dream. Our mothers do.
If we build on this theory, It's possible the monster is disguised as one of three recent prisoners, most likely Randall. He could have been killed off when the cicadas came for him. This theory plays well with the mole conspiracy that was inserted in the show earlier.
I don't understand why people aren't talking about ethan's (sara's brother) nightmare of cicadas. If peoples dreams and nightmares manifest here. That explains everything. Nighmares - the spiders, ghouls, cicadas, and also the boogeyman (which means there's another big bad apart from him) and dreams - fatma's pregnant, boyd's health upgrade, the boy's leg, and tower (which might've been a dream of old sailors).
I agree. I believe that this show could be entirely about a shared dream world and possibly even a dream experiment. That would explain why so many arrive with their entire families or their loved ones arrive later. It could be something they signed up for or were forced into while in their homes. I think those who die in the dream world just wake up and that’s why the boy in white apologized to Tabitha because he was separating her from her family. I think he’s a distractor in the dream world, not a helper. I think he may even run it and the message Sarah got to kill the boy was for the boy in white, because then they would wake up and be free. I think the voices are from the people who have left but return in their dreams to help the others get out by dying in the dream world
I don’t think Martin was the monster simply because when Boyd returned back to the town and finally told someone about the worms he said it was like the worms kept Martin alive in that torturous state. Cause Martin looked like an actual living skeleton. Martin was hoping to die and it seemed like he knew once the worms were out of him he could transition in peace. If you remember when Sara was hearing those voices telling her to kill she had those worms in her arm at the diner and it formed the message to Kill Ethan.
I also think Martin was not the monster. I think he was one of the ones "feeding" the town. I think I remember seeing other skeletons there with him. That could be why they are now experiencing fall/winter
@@EmansReviews it looked like worms in her arm in episode 4 of season one. It formed the words ‘Kill The Boy’ … she had the seizure at the diner. It was the cliffhanger for that episode.
@@bydesignmedia i was thinking if Boyd hadn’t figured the riddle out Julie, Randal & the nurse’s girlfriend would have ended up like Martin & the two other skeletons. With the cicadas sound stopped and I wonder if it returns the town goes back to the constant season Victor mentioned. 🤷🏽♀️ 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ I’m about to start a go fund me for a season 3 😅😂🤣
@@tamikeevans3318 I understand. It only looked that way but there's no evidence she had any worms outside of that one second shot. IF she really did have worms, the show shouldn't demonstrated that the way they did with Boyd. One second in a quick shot doesn't mean much.
Everytime Abby shows up it’s to distract and slow down Boyd in crucial moments so it’s always been obvious to me that she’s not there for good and it’s not actually her but the evil entity or whatever it is playing tricks on Boyd’s mind.
Me and my husband just watched the last episode of season 2 last night and I had to come see what you thought lol and you just upload your extra theories too YAY😂 I gave this season a 6(my husband less. He thought it was so dry and dragged. Last season I actually had a few nightmares about the show, none this season lol😅) but liked the final twist with Tabitha- so ready to see the two sides next season!! Love the sneek peek of the Victor interview. Thanks for your in depth work!!!!❤
I was not a fan of Lost because it was all questions and no answers. I worry this show is going down that same path. I don’t want to watch an entire season again for the plot to finally move forward on the last episode. I feel like you could watch just the first and last episode of both seasons and not really miss out on anything.
@@TrevorH89 exactly. Same here! That's what I explained to my husband as we muddled through this last episode lol and I never watched Lost but saw the dissapointment at that finale at the time and hope it wont be the same or how season 3 goes.
@@EmansReviews I can’t stop watching your reviews even if I wanted to. I really hope the writers are giving this show as much thought as you are. Your theory’s really make it interesting for me week to week.
I think martin is the monster and is trying to repeat the same thing that happened when Victor was a child when everyone died at the same time. The 3 that were chained probably died too. So martin is just tricking Boyd to do the exact thing. And if it repeats again Ethan is the only child in town, Victor and Ethan are close friends, so there's a connection.
I like this theory. I picked up Stephen King Vibes Season 1 when Boyd was bit by the Spiders when he and Sarah were in the woods. Also, when they kept calling the entity "It". I didn't trust Martin at all, and I found it strange that he knew what Abby said. I keep wondering if the From is an acronym for something though, are they talking about where people who come to the town are from or are they talking about the Entity where it's from.
I believe Martin is the story's villain, feeding on hope just like Abi warned. People cling to hope in this dimension, mistaking it for their true reality. I think they're in a coma, unknowingly sustaining Martin. When they die here, it might actually be an awakening. It mirrors our own reality, where we desperately fight death, which could be the gateway to our true, eternal paradise. Abi understood this. When she died, she tried to contact Boyd, urging him in every way possible to come with her and awaken to his true existence.
The only thing making me believe martin and the two skeletons are real is the fact that the evil entity running things also chained julie, randal, and marienne to the wall and that definitely wasn't a hallucination. Martin could have been a shape shifting monster to trick Boyd but it doesn't seem likely to me. It would make more sense if martin was a real prisoner and needed to trick boyd into freeing him of his torture. What's worth noting is they were all chained to the wall while their bodies were somewhere else in a coma. Maybe Martin's physical body is actually out there somewhere?
Your theory is very plausible. I’ve theorized that the From place attempts to illicit as much fear as possible from the residents, like the killers in Stephen Kings Dr. Sleep. Nothing in Fromville is what it seems and you have to question everything and everyone. Love the show and love this theory!!
Fromville is a place created from the minds of patients who experience life threatening accidents, they go to this place because they dont know what happened to them, their lost, confused and scared, their stuck in this place because their in a dream state thats fused together from the minds of people near death, sedated or in surgery, comas etc, their all desperately trying to escape but they dont understand their environment or how things work, as we see when tabatha awakens in a hospital, we also see signs of some type of “doctoral Precision” for the first time with the girl spiked to the tree, those monsters had to have KNOWN where to puncture that poor girls head to REALLY make her stay alive and suffer and have to experience the whole thing, there are more signs of this throughout the series, small clues that seem miniscule, but all have the same thing in common, “the environment has some type of knowledge,”Book smarts” or medical knowledge, i think when u die in “Fromville” you awaken in real life in a hospital
"If Martin was actually a real person and was a victim of the entity, why would Martin give Boyd these terrible worms?" Boyd himself answered this question by saying the worms inside Martin would feed on Martin without and won't let him die and Martin freed himself by transfering these worms to Boyd's body.
I agree with what you're saying. Also, now that he's been somewhat diminished, he's still got an agent implanted in town. From Chapter III: Tilly's Revenge.
I don't know what to think about what's going on, but I can't get enough of the creepy mystery going on in this town! Showing the "Lost" reference, maybe it's like that. There's an evil presence trying to keep people in the town (Martin) and a good presence (boy in white shorts) trying to save people? Some sort of supernatural game? Can't wait for season 3!!!!
Another notable thing differentiating Martin from the townspeople trapped inside the same walls was that his eyes were clear and open and he was able to talk. With the others they weren't able to converse with Boyd and their eyes were glazed over so that already shows Martin could not have been a real person.
I also believe like Lost there is an ultimate battle between good and evil Boy in White (Jacob) and the Locust entity (The man in black) either combating for some ultimate prize or escape from that pocket dimension into the real world etc.
My theory is that they all were about to die in a car crash, but jumped dimensions instead. That’s why they come from all over the US. That’s why they are stuck in this realm with these things that have been stuck in there since for centuries. For S3, I think tabitha will somehow come across victor’s sister (because she was mentioned on going after their mom, but her body was never mentioned to be found) and tabitha will prob try and convince her to find a way to go back in order to save everyone
Victor says that the trees have been moving. This to me, indicates that this place itself moves. So it's possible it can move through certain areas of the country, capturing people in it's dimension. Sort of like how in Lost the island would move location from time to time.
Dude! That is the best theory yet I think the reason there are so many different types of religious or spiritual symbols in this show is because you are right. If it’s using their fears and they are all from different backgrounds and places, then the different rituals and tools and symbols would all be intertwined as well. Plus, I think maybe the place where tabitha woke up is where they are studying this entity. Maybe they caught the boogeyman and have put in a alternate space with these people to study it and how it effects people and how people effect it.
I posted this theory in a little chan called Parklin Media 6 days ago (currently the last vid), that's before ep 10 aired, so whether it's a coincidence or not, I couldn't agree more with this
This idea of Martin being the boogeyman would also account for the fact that he has normal eyes while the three later on all had the white eyes plus if he was a real person his body would need to be somewhere, right? The other three still existed physically in town while their souls or whatever were stuck in the dungeon room
Martin and Randall look a lot alike. Mariel and Julie we're inside where talismans could protect them. I find it very peculiar that Randall was left outside with no talisman right where the monsters were and they didn't kill him. It will not be a surprise to me if we later find out that Randall is connected to Martin as this Boogeyman.
Eman, I was already a subscriber and big fan of your reviews and I didn’t even know you watched From. Now you come out with this genius recap and you answered my (many) questions about this past season that I’ve been asking myself all week, but I didn’t want my husband to think I was a dumbass due to the sheer volume of things I didn’t get in season 2. If supersubscribers were a thing, I’d be one. Thank you!!! ❤
This makes sense, like many theories do, I’d say when Martin says the town is the worst part he’s being honest as the monsters had to search for the people and thus it’s the worst part. Most people would think it’s the best part even before the talismans. Especially because you would assume the woods would be worse or even the caves. I know Boyd thought he meant because of no talismans, but I don’t think that’s the case. He didn’t even seem interested in the talismans when Boyd told him.
Martin actually says I thought the town was the worst part until I went through the tree. The things that come out of the forest are just the tip of the spear. So in his words the town is nothing compared to what else is out there that we haven't seen yet.
I think there may be a lot of different monsters demons bad things in this place and the bottle tree has something to do with it. This new thing needed those 3 to die to be released like a sacrifice and I think if we get more background stories it’ll be easier to figure out.
I think you are right. In the cave there was that giant black/red figure that seems to be a dominant evil. That means there is one entity that controls this world and all the monsters. My question is for what reason Martin gave the worms to Boyd? Did he expect him to think that he could kill monsters with the worms? Or he expected him to pass the worms to everyone in the city or maybe to take control of Boyd's mind?
I think we will see a spider eventually. And maybe it will be a “good” entity. Ethan has mentioned spiders twice. Once when he was hurt in the RV and once when they were digging in the basement. Then there is the drawing of the spider and Boyd and Sarah were dragged to a part of the forest where there was webs everywhere. I think it’s good because the spider drug Sarah and Boyd to a place where they would see the lighthouse. Also spiders eat insects and the “bad entity” has shown up as worms and cicadas.
Great theory! Unfortunately, this show is NEVER give us the answers. It’s clear the writers are intent on creating mystery than providing answers. So much so that they will definitely end the show in the same way. It’ll be one of those, “the audience decides for themselves what really happen” situations.
One counter point. How do Julie, Randall, and Bitch girl appear in the chamber AND back in town? The 'bodies' imprisoned are souls. It's how Martin was still there and could not 'die'. So either Martin was real His soul at least. Or he has already expired and been twisted/ having his image used by the entity.
Counter to the counter... If let's say when someone dies their soul disappears, then why were those skeletons there when Boyd first arrived? I mean I don't know the rules to this place. 😅
Well that's no counter considering Julie's physical body was in town and in the chamber. The ones in the chamber must be psychic constructs, souls, ect. Who says souls are intangible and white clouds? Lol. When you die in the town from the cicadas, you appear to fully transition to the chamber in a soul like, yet physical state. There is no saving you at that point. There is only releasing your soul via transferring the worms. I believe those imprisoned are physical manifestations of souls, forced to stay there and relive periods of hope and despair, a forever dream and nightmare, fueling the entity of that place. I believe someone managed to free Martin's counterparts before, But he remained. A battery and or meal. Eternal. Til Boyd came lol
What's confusing in season 2 is Martin warns Boyd that he needs to get out BEFORE the music stops. Then later, Boyd comes back to stop the music himself. It seems that we have lies and truths to figure out. And who and what can really be trusted? The boy in white? The apparitions of dead townspeople? The voices that Sara and possibly Reggie heard? The dreams? Martin? The ballerina? The monsters that come out at night definitely can't be trusted. Sara and Nathan's house was taken over by Reggie and Paula. I believe Reggie heard voices just like Sara did and killed Paula like Sara killed Tobey. I don't believe his story about her just suddenly being torn up from within. The voices may have also told him to keep everyone awake. If no one sleeps, then they make dumb mistakes. The cicada ritual may be how to form new monsters from townspeople. Randall, Marielle, and Julie's eyes looked like the night monsters eyes. Even monster Jasmine stated , "I wasn't always this way." Randall was not killed that night even though he was exposed. The cicadas came from monster Smiley after the ballerina showed Boyd how to transfer the worms. If the worms are never transferred, then the host dies? Anyway, it seems that the original 1950s folk were infested by the cicadas and transformed into night monsters.
Also note that when all 3 of them being possessed by the Cicadas, their physical bodies were still present but also inside of the chamber. Martin body was in the chamber where is his current body? He could definitely be the bad guy!
Here's what I've been thinking while watching season 2: Martin could have been a real person, and the worms were somehow keeping him alive. I was also thinking that maybe his human body died and it was just his soul that was trapped. I thought the actual monster was the ballerina. I have this theory that this town used to be a normal town but something happened and all the people who lived there became the monsters. The ballerina was a woman who lived in this town and for whatever reason she became a different kind of monster and her powers are connected to the music box she owned when she was alive. I also suspect the children may have been some sort of human sacrifice and that's why their souls are trapped and need saving. Maybe the sacrifice didn't work out and it had something to do with the boy in white, that's why he seems different than everybody else. Idk, just random thoughts I've been having while watching the show.
Not related but we now know Victor had a sister who escaped to follow their mother in the night of the attack. On the finale it was implied that Victor found his mother's body close to the bottles farway tree, but no sign of his sister, who probably was able to go into the tree. WHAT IF Tilly is Victor sister's, she was able to escape and now return? (Shoutout to @user-to8fm2zy8t 's comment saying that Till is a returnee btw) 1- We haven't seen Tilly nor Victor interact yet (and he probably wouldn't have recognized her anyway since he buried all his trauma, not even remembering he had a sibling); 2- she seemed to be the only "new comer" who was enjoying her time when the bus arrived at Fromville; 3- she also chose to stay at colony house (Victor's residence). 4- We were never told Victor's sister age but she could've been slighlty older or appear that way due to many other factor like pollution (that don't seem to affect fromville) or maybe illness (she brought the morphine). Idk I just think they focused too much on Tilly for there not to be a specific reason.
Tilly definitely throws up a lot of red flags - she knows too much. But I don't think she's Victor's sister. Instead, I think Tabitha will find Victor's sister in the real world and together they will formulate a plan to rescue everyone.
My theory is that they’re in a shared dream world that you wake up from when you die. I think Tilly is Victor’s mom who chose to return or was somehow able to return maybe as a mercy before her death from cancer, since she’s already dying. That being said, Abby said she had a nightmare of the place as a child. I think she died at the lighthouse as Eloise and she remembered that they all had to die to wake up. It would be cool if Tabitha found Abby in the real world because I believe Abby is sending messages from there in her dreams to help them get out. She told Boyd in the dungeon it doesn’t matter if you save them, you’re all going to die anyway. It’s true. They’re going to die and wake up eventually. By hoping and fighting for survival, they prolong their time there. But giving up on survival goes against Boyd’s nature( Mr. Fish and Loaves) so it’s nearly impossible to get him to stop.
Here’s what I took from season 2 finale. Abby was right at the beginning. It’s all cap and you have to die to get out. “ hope is what feeds the place, not fear” I have a theory Tabitha and Boyd’s wife will find each other somehow and in their own way, they’ll try to go back to town or figure it out. Either that or she advanced to a next level fuck hole😭
Think you might be into something, after all the people who created this helped produce Lost and it reminds me of the man in black who would manifest as different people throughout the series. I think this is what is happening here... Martin, Father Katri, Abby, Tom the barman etc are all one and the same
I was thinking the same thing. All the dead people are the same entity mixing truth and lies.....I can't remember but was Sarah possessed when she killed everyone or was she following orders from the voices in her head?
Thanks for the theory. Very interesting and a good possibility. There are so many questions? 1) Location and geography? Where or when is this place where they are trapped and why have they not been able to clear the road? 2) Environmental changes? The trees moving, the weather, past and potential flood? 3) Monsters and physical manifestations?
What do you think about this theory? Does it explain who was it behind it all to you? What other theories do you have?
I 100% agree with this theory
i agree with this theory but if Martin was real and he wanted to die passing the worms to Boyd was the only way cause he claimed they were keeping him alive. but i don't trust Martin 😂😂 i don't trust the boy in whit too sorry 😂😂 Fromville has me second guessing all the supernatural entities
It totally made sense to me. I thought it was really odd that when Boyd asked Martin questions, he conveniently changed the subject. Boyd was so scared and thrown off, he just wanted out and was trying to save Martin. Move now, questions later.
Martin can’t be real, he wasn’t there when Boyd come back.
I think it the Clown was my first in season 1now i think its a combo of lost serie but its Simple the are connected think i see combo lost frome en robots serie i think there are more combinatian not 1 but more i hoop
I just wanna say the actor who plays Boyd is phenomenal man
This show overall has solid actors
He was in Lost also. I'm happy he got lead role in something.
One of the best imo
@@roninmidori1188he has a lead role in oz one of the best TV shows ever
Yes! Fantastic cast.
Agree, can't wait for season 3 .
My fear is that even the writers have no idea where this is going, and it will end up being very disappointing.
Like the bs wrap up for 'Lost?
Same. I hope for the best, but maybe that's what the network is feeding on...
Well they have given us two amazing seasons so far so I'll keep my faith in them.
nah, i think this show will end up good
Maybe that’s the point
@@heathersteel9767 Ending of lost is incredible, most people just dont understand it, and interpret it incorrectly.
It bothered me so much that Boyd didn't find it sketchy that the rope was dropped to him by a sickly man that was shackled to a wall. 😂
Rightttttt
to be honest up until this point i havent thought about it either, plus in character when he is in there he is confused scared and in that state you tend to miss these things
But being teleported by a hole in a tree , and a magical music box showing up in the same room they are in isn't questioned at all . yeah the rope dropping is definitely so weird *Eye roll* lol@@mikycze9177
@@mikycze9177 yeah he just got out of a hole he thought he would be trapped in for who knows how long, just appeared in a dungeon with a dude chained up, the last thought on his mind would be who gave me the rope. I'm just glad to be out
Maybe it wasn’t that man but the music box? Or the thing in the man blood doing?
Sara also said that once all 3 die (Julie, Marielle and Randall) that it would be all over and would be too late. Martin kept asking Boyd to kill him. He was the only one left out of the last 3 victims. I think when it was clear Boyd wasn’t going to kill him the worms were passed on to try and find 3 new victims that would die and set the “Boogeyman” free permanently.
OMG THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
Holy shit that makes a lot of sense
Wow, I think that's it right there
I think you figured it out
But he wouldn't he have woken up like the rest did in the finale?
Martin is definitely the monster. He played into Boyd's biggest flaw. He always needs to be the hero
My thoughts exactly
I never thought of that. Wow, that makes perfect sense
He still was chained when Boyd left, then wasn’t when he came back
Martin isn't the monster but he's connected somehow. He knows something from the past that could be the clue to getting out.
I never trusted Martin- not once
I've been saying that the Bottles contain evil entities that are trapped in this little terrarium.
Boyd took down one of the bottles after Sarah told him not to.
There's an empty bottle in the stairs of the Lighthouse in Tabby's dream.
Boyd says stopping the music "might be the last chance to put the genie back into the bottle".
Too many bottles not to be connected.
adding on to your point, its a mythology that you can trap evil spirts in bottles that dates back centuries and is also believed in many cultures around the world
interesting
That’s actually a good theory
If there's really a Stephen King connection, then the bottles holding evil spirits/entities match's King's novels Desperation and The Regulators. Both have a cave with small bottles and clay vessels with evil inside.
Shoot just the title of those two is pretty powerful when applied to these From explanations/theories even without information about what’s in the stories
How the hell would Martin even know what Abby said? That right there was enough from the jump for me to believe that he was the source of the evil.
The same way the creatures know everyone's names.
@@chasteriachasteria3629almost like they choose them…
It was Martin all along and we were introduced to this season's monster from the start but never really figured it out. The fact that he threw the rope while tied up was a give away and then transferring the worms onto Boyd so that he could get into town. Martin shape shifting into Abby trying to confuse Boyd and ep9 who appeared after the slow walkers just stood there like never before...it was Abby in the RV.
Okay, if so, what was with the vision of Ellis in the well wanting to go out on the lake in the boat?
Why do that?
Yes, the night monsters were not scared of them…they were scared of Martin!
I never trusted Martin I asked how he threw the rope if he was tied up and forgot all about it 😂. Didn't he also say he'd been there for years?
@@jasoncaldwell5627 No one ever mentions the lake in their theories. Certainly the Lake of Tears has something to do with this. Ethan mentioned "seeing" it in Season 1 even though he's never been to The Brundles and Elgin's reaction looked fearful. Ironically, it's the only place they have fun.
@@christiemccarthy5294 I think the Brundels is the Lake Of Tears- I've said so before but maybe not here.
I think the little kids in white were drowned there and their bodies are still at the bottom.
That's my guess.
Also, Martin’s eyes weren’t “white-ed over” like the Cicada Three. Great theory, Eman!,
Great point!
I posted this before somewhere else, I read this interesting theory- that Julie, Randall, Mary had white eyes because it was their souls that was chained up in the prison, and Martin had normal eyes because his body is already dead, hence normal eyes…
@@gp-989that’s what I was thinking
@@EmansReviews but one thing I don't get with the theory is that it was Nathan's fear of cicadas, so why didn't Nathan die from cicadas or why did cicadas not start to show up until after Nathan died. the entity heard Nathan's fear and just applied it to everyone else?
@@b1bbscraz3y actually this was something I missed before making the video. Whether Nathan was alive or not did not matter. The entity still knew people's fears and took on that form. For example, in ep 9 of season 1, Boyd demonstrated a fear of worms. And what did Martin just so happen to pass on to Boyd? That's right... Worms. So it's less about who or when someone is dead and more about when a fear is known or expressed, the evil entity has access to use it. Make sense?
I believe the "feed off fear" theory because when the monsters surrounded the bus and the character started screaming "I'm not afraid of you" they abruptly left him alone.
I think that's bc of the talisman in the RV, PLUS I believe he was scared frfr lol
I think it feeds off of hope
@@maricelaaguilera5451Nah that ghost Abby or whatever was probably an evil hallucination of the monster, she also said not to destroy the music box but Boyd did and it actually saved Julie, Randel and Marielle
Martin was a real person.
his name is on the board in the post office as people who arrived in the town.
His name appears directly beside victors name.
Victor would know who Martin is, if anyone ever asked him.
Thank you for this info, defo gonna check it out.
Martin is Victor's daddy. He's going to remember in season 4.
If only they would talk to each other........it's very annoying
Wouldn't you think , in a place like that , if anything wierd happened to you the first thing you would do is tell someone !??!
They need to have daily or weekly meetings and say something if they've seen or heard anything......!
@@sharonlavery7656 In real life, yes, but in the show, meh.. They cant just move the show forward at all times.
Lol one thing I've been thinking this entire time is "Why hasn't Boyd asked Victor if he knew someone named Martin in town"
Yes! I couldnt agree more! I never trusted Martin. I felt like Martin was the evil entity, and he was using Boyd's need to save others, against him. He used Boyd to release the evil when it infected him with the worms. "My blood is your blood now. He knew about Boyd's wife, and he was the only one there that could have thrown Boyd the rope. The same evil entity uses Abby's visage to trick Boyd and prevent Boyd from stopping the music.
Boyd wised up and didn't listen to fake Abby. He broke the music box, and thwarted the entity's plans.
Not only did you jumpscare me with that scream sound, but you jumpscared both of my cats. Unforgivable.
I apologize to both you and your cats 😬
Yeah, I almost hit the ceiling with that scream.
The very first thing I would have asked Martin is how in the hell did you throw me that rope?!? Lol
I think everyone who "comes to" from the experiment wakes up in that hospital and that's why they emphasized the name and the logo. Tabitha definitely grew on me. The chemistry between her and Jim and the way they flipped the script from the 1st episode is so good
There's a Russian ( ig) movie on this shared dream concept named ~ COMA
Your right it’s fear and nightmares Boyd had the “worms” in his arm because he told Sarah “worms are fucking creepy” he knew that would freak him out
Hmmmm 🤔
Igual com as Cigarras. Era o medo do irmão da Sara.
Good call on the observation. I forgot about that. That’s a great connection there.
For me the bodies being gone including Martin's when Boyd returns is explainable. We know that place isn't in the physical realm as Julie, Randal & Maryelle's bodies were physically in town but spiritually trapped in that dungeon/tower.
So is it like a dream 🫠 like they’re all in the same dream ? I’m so stumped
@@AlexciaNicole I would say those 3 were in more like a nightmare but yes. Thankfully Boyd smashed the Music Box and they were freed from it.
@@AlexciaNicolewell Abby showed up and disappeared so it had to be somewhat a dream or hallucination to some extent, in the physical world that doesn’t happen. Or it does but it not real
Agreed...i don't think it will be some boogeyman...I think they will come up with something even better in s3
If it were true then wouldn't the dead skeletons be gone once the person literally died? I don't think it's consistent which is why I think Martin, and everything else was all part of the ruse. Remember the evil entity was laughing at Boyd... Makes more sense that it would laugh if there was a trick that was pulled.
Did any of you notice that the monsters went away from randall when he said he wasn't scared in the bus scene? this adds to the fear theory.
But he was scared. Also, they killed people who thought that the monsters were just regular people.those people weren’t afraid of them.
The talisman stopped them; they turned away because they knew they had enough other prey to kill.
^Correct
i don’t think it’s about not being fearful but rather about attacking them back and being brave despite being fearful. that may explain the reason why they still attacked people who were not fearful (because jot aware of what they were).
He didn't open the door and go outside or let them in either. He knew they couldn't get to him because of the talisman.
Consider this: Puppets.
From the first scene in the RV with Julie and Ethan playing with finger puppets. The ventriloquist dummy keeps showing up, and even the stance of the captured three (now and in the past) are of marionettes who scream on cue.
Yea you’re probably right. Idk how deep but this definitely is going somewhere
@@dariusbattle9503 Well even the fact that whatever it is is using human 'costumes' or whatever- the monsters are even puppets. "playing"
Yes. Now to figure out who's pulling the strings?
That's a great observation.
Maybe the giant spider we never could see....
This show worries me even though I love it. They’ve thrown so much at us in two seasons. I don’t see how it all adds up. Y’all read and tell me what’s going on and if I missed anything.
Tree in road, crows, monsters, talismans, boy in white, dogs, civil war soldiers, man in cellar screaming, symbols, Christopher, tunnels, cave drawings, Sara’s voices, marks on her arm, spiders, lighthouse, faraway trees, bottles, dates, voice Jim heard, Jim’s bracelet, how does power work, diner juke boxes, ventriloquist doll, girl with rod through head, Martin, chamber, rope, ballerina and music box, blood worms, cicadas, nursery rhyme, Elgins vision nightmare, the screeching at night, the children, Ethan’s stories, the voice on phone, Fatima’s pregnancy, quick healing, the bile, Boyd’s Parkinson’s, season change, the brundels. I hope these people know what they are doing.
Wow great point. I didn't realise just how much they have gotten into here. My guess is that they leave at least half of it completely unexplained.
Missing the most important spoiler of one waking up out of a comma.
Let's add... trees moving, seeing ghosts, the dates in tabithas dreams, Christopher's journal, the weird tree root symbol, the ghost kids, the miraculous electricity that comes from nowhere, the car graveyard, Victor's creepy drawings, the dog, Kristi's girlfriend showing up, Elgins dream on the bus... I could probably go on.
Season 2 was scarier and had more action, BUT sadly they're spinning around the plot and the only redeeming aspect of this series is the last scene where Tabitha finds herself in the hospital. Either they're in alternate reality or this is all am experiment.
I just found this show and it's awesome but yes I dont see how it could possibly have a satisfying ending. So im just gonna enjoy the ride!
I have a theory, now hear me out. What if Victor witnessed a horrible situation, like Christopher who was beloved by the town, started killing people. He became a maniac and started shooting everyone, killing his sister and his mother. Maybe such traumatic event and pain he felt cause him to somehow create this crazy loop where all his fears live and torment others? That is why he's simple, while as boy, he seemed normal. Only when we start to dig deeper into his mind do crazier things start to come out.
What do you think about this:
When Boyd met Martin in the tower, there were 2 other skeletons there. What if Martin was actually Randall and the other skeletons belonged to Marielle and Julie. They are very careful not to disclose Randall's last name. What if it's Martin, and he is in the Marines. He acts like he could have PTSD like many from the military. They also don't show his arms that could have the tattoo that was seen on Martin's upper arm.....We know time has no barriers in the Fromplace. So Martin could be Randall, who was the last surviving captive.
If he's Randal then he would definitely recognize boyd
Yes they come for three
Randell let it be know upfront he was in military but do we know Randell his first name or last name because 95% military still to this day go by they last name
This time loop doesnt work, how would randall end up there if he came after all tge other main characters?
@@jasondas9056A marine would never give up their weapon
Awesome theory my dude!
I was thinking along the same lines with Martin, the worms, visions of Abby and the cicadas being linked to the same “monster” just didn’t link the boogeyman. The fact his eyes weren’t greyed out and he could hold a conversation unlike the three taken by the cicadas was a big giveaway Martin wasn’t necessarily a “real” person. Pretty certain Martin was just another shape shift like when it also presents as Abby and the worms.
Loving this show so much, season 3 feels soooo far away!!
Great video man keep up the good work 🤘🏻
This is quite a theory! It makes sense and ties up a lot of questions. I would love to hear what the producers think of your theories.
He probably came up with a better idea than what the writers have in store tbh.
My theory is that whatever built the world they’re in and whatever controls it can also read minds and control their dreams. The dream imagery is everywhere in the show. For me, Tabitha proves that they’re in a shared dream world and the only way out is to die in the dream. Abby was right and she’s visiting Boyd in her dreams and telling him the truth. If you stop trying to survive the place you get out. The place is a lot like a game that resets when people exit, new people enter. Resources are provided when you try to stay like chickens and goats, but they get taken away if you attempt to leave. Abby , Iron Abby who doesn’t break, was sane. She remembers a dream from her childhood when she’s in Fromland because she’s Eloise and she was there before. She also remembers how she left and how to get out so she is actually freeing people. She’s now contacting them through her dreams to help them get back to her. The jukebox leads Boyd to the lighthouse. Later it plays In Dreams by Roy Orbison during a Boyd montage. The trailer for season two plays Dream a Little Dream. Tons of pictures in the opening of sequence are of beds and a monster taking one from their bed. El Cucuy or onkoowie takes bad kids from their beds, so this is somehow a part of the story as well. It’s depicted in the opening sequence. But dreams are the key and dying is the way out just like we typically awake before we die in dreams. There’s so many dream clues obviously with the sleeping attacks, everyone sees the tree when they arrive, Donna makes Fatima a dreamcatcher, etc. Yes, Donna is sus. So is Tilly, I think she might be Victor’s mom. Victor, Abby and Tilly look ALOT alike and the ages seem to match up for them as well.
nice theroy
Holy shit, I think you cracked it lol
Victor;s Mom is dead
This is a New skool STEPHEN KING!!! 🤷🏽♂️ I SAID THIS ALREADY!!! They will all wake up from a Experiment 🤷🏽♂️🤔🙄
My theory is that when people die in from land they return to the real world and leave the dream world. So anyone who dies there would actually still be alive. I think Victor’s mom might have found a way back in to be with him before she dies of cancer. As others have mentioned, Tilly seems familiar with the place and more comfortable than you’d expect from someone new. She also just looks a lot like the actress who plays young Victor’s mom.
After seeing how the others had white eyes and were incoherent when trapped inside I think Martin was lying 100%. I also don’t think he went back in time, I think Martin was actually trapped in the present. Makes me wonder where his body is if he actually died, the others had physical bodies outside so where was Martin actually? I think Martin was the same as Abby and possibly Tom the bartender when talking to Jade, just using an appearance to manipulate them while they think it’s themselves.
I think the main goal is going to end up being Fatima’s baby. She was given ability to conceive by the town so it’s possible she’s just a surrogate for a half human half dreamland baby that monster will be able to physically control
Maybe the script writer is having a hard time to connect the story what their begin with 😂
That is why the plot story is now going here, there and everywhere.
Not control but take over maybe? Martin the evil entity wants to be reborn?
I'm so glad Boyd destroyed the music box. It was cathartic.
I think the worms under Boyd's skin were the cicadas. I think Martin purposely transferred them to Boyd to make Boyd think he might have a weapon ro fight back at the monster's with. But when in reality it was more of this place's evil coming for them. Specifically the 3 the cicadas captured, and unless he stopped that music box those 3 captured may have become smiley monsters themselves. And I think a new cycle may have begun as well.
I think “Martin tricking Boyd thinking the worms is a weapon” is false because Boyd had no intention in the first to give the blood to the monsters only when he needed to pass it on to save his son is when he did it so I don’t think that’s the case
So I think you could be right...in 'Lost' there is a mysterious evil entity on the island called 'the man in black' and not only does he want to leave the island where he's trapped, but he can also shape shift, he is technically 'the monster' in the story, he uses dead people to manipulate other people by taking their form, he can cause visions AND during one episode he took the form of SPIDERS and bit 2 people, causing them to become paralyzed! The people on the island trying to keep him on the island describe him as 'evil incarnate' so yeah sounds kind of like a boogeyman to me
Yep, I been getting "Man in Black" vibes for a while now. I agree with much of Eman's theory, but I like the way you put it better..."a" boogeyman, not "thee" boogeyman. My issue is why would a supernatural entity be connected to a music box, with its abilities heightened & weakened by its use or non-use. That leads me to believe that this boogeyman is more human in nature, but evil corrupted, a-la man in black. And this person at one time had a connection to the music box. My 2 cent.
Stephen King’s Dark Tower series has a Man in Black too that’s evil.
One thing that makes me quite mad about this is
how come nobody ever thought about killing or trapping the monsters?
1. They're physically too strong and aggressive
2. They're always in groups
3. I'm sure people have died trying to capture or kill
4. Bullets dont work
Pretty sure, they can't die from normal means
They've tried to kill them. Multiple times for seemingly decades
"When I'm trying to see if a theory I have has merit, the 1st thing I try to do is disprove it" That.....sounds like a very effective thought exercise. That never occurred to me. Thanks
Aye! Back on the theory grind! Love to see it! I’m still waiting for Sara to explain to someone that the reason she was trying to kill Ethan was because her arm told her to. Really thought that may have been connected to the worms Boyd had/ the season 2,monster. Starting to believe it’s just another mystery that needs explaining.
Edited: Donna has been the mole, Victor is the one who has the answers and Donna has been manipulating him and Tilly is a returnee of the place having 7 pale ghost kids.
What was said that makes people think tilli has been here before?
I think that Tilly is in on the whole thing. Randall was focused on Donna being an "inside man", when its been Tilly the whole time. just a theory
Donna doesn’t have the answers u forget victor is the one that has been there the longest..that’s literally what his whole character is center around ..the tragic kid that literally “grew up” in that nightmare town ..
Do you know why it's Donna? Because she interupts every idea of going out of the town. She controls Victor in every words he says.
Tilly is definitely in on it. She pops up w their weaknesses in critical moments
I think martin was a hallucination. He was able to hurt Boyd because the music was playing just like kenny got burned by the cicada while hallucinating while the music was playing. That also explains why martins body wasnt there when boyd returned. It was the boogeyman trying to get boyd to carry his curse back to town
Damn that's a nice theory but what about the rope?
I think the town is the purgatory youre in while in a coma.
Tabitha being found on a trail kinda confirms this.
The rv is really in the ditch ,her family is unconscious in the RV and she went for help before succumbing to her injury
Good theory.
My side theory: the dungeon is not a real place. It's a mindscape/illusion/dream or something. The Anywhere tree sent Boyd to the ruin where he appeared to leave and returned to the dungeon. This explains the rope, dungeon cleaning service, and the new three prisoners being there in the dungeon as well as in a different location at the same time.
Does this make sense that Monsters just stopped coming to RV when Boyd, Donna, Jim and Randals were in RV and music starts..that indicates that whatever they or it is, even monsters are scared of them..
The Music On is definitely related to monster activity, Sirens lured sailors with their songs, Irish Imps would sing to lure children into lakes and.....in a reversal, Hamelin lured rats from a town with music as well. So, there is something there. Thanks man.
Okay....just your intro has me intrigued.😊 I'm only about a minute in. Lol. I'm listening to all the theories from different people while I wait for Season 3!!!
A few common associations with the boogeyman is that he punishes disobedience, lives in the dark places like the woods at night, and scratches outside your windows at night.
I wondered if this might be a fairytale like show. The boogeyman does match up nicely.
This makes perfect sense especially because the monster literally said it became excited when it touched Boyd’s arm.
Kenny's arm
I think this refers to when Sara grabbed Boyd’s arm while they were on their quest when the spiders came. The monster(s) felt Boyd through Sara.
Going back to season 1, Sarah described to Father Khatri who They were, that they had been there for a very long time and used to be like them (the people in town). Sarah mentions they were looking for a way to escape, to go home. They watched Khatri bury the bag, proving they exist via communication thru Sarah. Maybe its more than one entity, maybe some sort of spiritual phenomenon in a parallel world, where a big ass tree in the road results in a shift in the physical world around you. I wonder if It or They put the tree in the roads located all around the country for each person who arrived in this town.
What if the voices are actually the children we keep seeing? Would put a whole new twist on things.
I went back and re-watched Martins scenes in Episode 1-2. I believe he was in fact a real person, trapped there by an even worse evil being but possessed by the entity as you dubbed it "the boogeyman" which came out in Martin once the music stopped.
I think your right about the boogie man theory. This town is about taking advantage of your fears like spiders, cicadas, ventriloquist dummies, etc.
but who is on the other side telling them the truth to break the music. The one that told them the nursery rhyme. It’s interesting that a nursery rhyme is something we tell children and is the children’s nursery rhyme that help kill the boogie man’s plan. And the children’s crayon drawings that solves the answers to the town’s mysteries. Who tells us nursery rhymes and who tells us to draw crayon pictures? Our mother. Victor’s mother tells her kids to make the crayon drawings. Who comforts us in the real world when we get a bad dream with the boogie man. Our mothers.
Remember in season one when Ethan’s mother, Tabitha confronts Ethan when he gets fear or is scared of the monster that killed his finger puppets. She says to Ethan there is no such things as monsters. Mothers always comfort us from the boogie man or monsters in our dreams. So I think Victor’s mother is the one that is sending them the clues on how to stop the monsters. It was Victor’s mother I believe that sent them the clue about the nursery rhyme.
Who makes us feel better when we have a bad dream. Our mothers do.
"PRONOUN MONSTER" is legendary in so many ways
If we build on this theory, It's possible the monster is disguised as one of three recent prisoners, most likely Randall. He could have been killed off when the cicadas came for him. This theory plays well with the mole conspiracy that was inserted in the show earlier.
The theory that Randall himself started.
Actually every single line from All the characters mean something.
I don't understand why people aren't talking about ethan's (sara's brother) nightmare of cicadas. If peoples dreams and nightmares manifest here. That explains everything. Nighmares - the spiders, ghouls, cicadas, and also the boogeyman (which means there's another big bad apart from him) and dreams - fatma's pregnant, boyd's health upgrade, the boy's leg, and tower (which might've been a dream of old sailors).
I agree! Fatima’s fear of pregnancy manifested into something that was trying to drown Elgin when he was in the bathtub!
Nathan was Sarah’s brother. Ethan is Julie’s little brother.
I agree. I believe that this show could be entirely about a shared dream world and possibly even a dream experiment. That would explain why so many arrive with their entire families or their loved ones arrive later. It could be something they signed up for or were forced into while in their homes. I think those who die in the dream world just wake up and that’s why the boy in white apologized to Tabitha because he was separating her from her family. I think he’s a distractor in the dream world, not a helper. I think he may even run it and the message Sarah got to kill the boy was for the boy in white, because then they would wake up and be free. I think the voices are from the people who have left but return in their dreams to help the others get out by dying in the dream world
I don’t think Martin was the monster simply because when Boyd returned back to the town and finally told someone about the worms he said it was like the worms kept Martin alive in that torturous state. Cause Martin looked like an actual living skeleton. Martin was hoping to die and it seemed like he knew once the worms were out of him he could transition in peace. If you remember when Sara was hearing those voices telling her to kill she had those worms in her arm at the diner and it formed the message to Kill Ethan.
I also think Martin was not the monster. I think he was one of the ones "feeding" the town. I think I remember seeing other skeletons there with him. That could be why they are now experiencing fall/winter
Sara never had worms.
@@EmansReviews it looked like worms in her arm in episode 4 of season one. It formed the words ‘Kill The Boy’ … she had the seizure at the diner. It was the cliffhanger for that episode.
@@bydesignmedia i was thinking if Boyd hadn’t figured the riddle out Julie, Randal & the nurse’s girlfriend would have ended up like Martin & the two other skeletons. With the cicadas sound stopped and I wonder if it returns the town goes back to the constant season Victor mentioned. 🤷🏽♀️ 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ I’m about to start a go fund me for a season 3 😅😂🤣
@@tamikeevans3318 I understand. It only looked that way but there's no evidence she had any worms outside of that one second shot. IF she really did have worms, the show shouldn't demonstrated that the way they did with Boyd. One second in a quick shot doesn't mean much.
Pronoun monster is classic. 😂
Shit had me crying lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s actually a valid theory. But I think there’s more to that and I hope the writers can do this better and actually explain
The radio in the diner is obviously behind everything
Never trust a radio
Everytime Abby shows up it’s to distract and slow down Boyd in crucial moments so it’s always been obvious to me that she’s not there for good and it’s not actually her but the evil entity or whatever it is playing tricks on Boyd’s mind.
Me and my husband just watched the last episode of season 2 last night and I had to come see what you thought lol and you just upload your extra theories too YAY😂 I gave this season a 6(my husband less. He thought it was so dry and dragged. Last season I actually had a few nightmares about the show, none this season lol😅) but liked the final twist with Tabitha- so ready to see the two sides next season!! Love the sneek peek of the Victor interview. Thanks for your in depth work!!!!❤
I gave season 1 8 out of 10 and this season 7 out of 10.
I was not a fan of Lost because it was all questions and no answers. I worry this show is going down that same path. I don’t want to watch an entire season again for the plot to finally move forward on the last episode.
I feel like you could watch just the first and last episode of both seasons and not really miss out on anything.
Thank you for watching 😅
@@TrevorH89 exactly. Same here! That's what I explained to my husband as we muddled through this last episode lol and I never watched Lost but saw the dissapointment at that finale at the time and hope it wont be the same or how season 3 goes.
@@EmansReviews I can’t stop watching your reviews even if I wanted to. I really hope the writers are giving this show as much thought as you are. Your theory’s really make it interesting for me week to week.
I think martin is the monster and is trying to repeat the same thing that happened when Victor was a child when everyone died at the same time. The 3 that were chained probably died too. So martin is just tricking Boyd to do the exact thing. And if it repeats again Ethan is the only child in town, Victor and Ethan are close friends, so there's a connection.
I like this theory. I picked up Stephen King Vibes Season 1 when Boyd was bit by the Spiders when he and Sarah were in the woods. Also, when they kept calling the entity "It". I didn't trust Martin at all, and I found it strange that he knew what Abby said. I keep wondering if the From is an acronym for something though, are they talking about where people who come to the town are from or are they talking about the Entity where it's from.
Morph = Morf
I believe Martin is the story's villain, feeding on hope just like Abi warned. People cling to hope in this dimension, mistaking it for their true reality. I think they're in a coma, unknowingly sustaining Martin. When they die here, it might actually be an awakening. It mirrors our own reality, where we desperately fight death, which could be the gateway to our true, eternal paradise.
Abi understood this. When she died, she tried to contact Boyd, urging him in every way possible to come with her and awaken to his true existence.
The only thing making me believe martin and the two skeletons are real is the fact that the evil entity running things also chained julie, randal, and marienne to the wall and that definitely wasn't a hallucination.
Martin could have been a shape shifting monster to trick Boyd but it doesn't seem likely to me. It would make more sense if martin was a real prisoner and needed to trick boyd into freeing him of his torture.
What's worth noting is they were all chained to the wall while their bodies were somewhere else in a coma. Maybe Martin's physical body is actually out there somewhere?
Your theory is very plausible. I’ve theorized that the From place attempts to illicit as much fear as possible from the residents, like the killers in Stephen Kings Dr. Sleep. Nothing in Fromville is what it seems and you have to question everything and everyone. Love the show and love this theory!!
Fromville is a place created from the minds of patients who experience life threatening accidents, they go to this place because they dont know what happened to them, their lost, confused and scared, their stuck in this place because their in a dream state thats fused together from the minds of people near death, sedated or in surgery, comas etc, their all desperately trying to escape but they dont understand their environment or how things work, as we see when tabatha awakens in a hospital, we also see signs of some type of “doctoral Precision” for the first time with the girl spiked to the tree, those monsters had to have KNOWN where to puncture that poor girls head to REALLY make her stay alive and suffer and have to experience the whole thing, there are more signs of this throughout the series, small clues that seem miniscule, but all have the same thing in common, “the environment has some type of knowledge,”Book smarts” or medical knowledge, i think when u die in “Fromville” you awaken in real life in a hospital
I mean that is similar ending to lost which is the same ppl..so maybe its a netherworld..they even mention a purgatory in first season
"If Martin was actually a real person and was a victim of the entity, why would Martin give Boyd these terrible worms?"
Boyd himself answered this question by saying the worms inside Martin would feed on Martin without and won't let him die and Martin freed himself by transfering these worms to Boyd's body.
I agree with what you're saying. Also, now that he's been somewhat diminished, he's still got an agent implanted in town. From Chapter III: Tilly's Revenge.
I just don't understand how none of the characters thought to shut the music box off. It was literally the only clear clue in the series 😅
I promise if it’s some giant alien spiders type stuff, I’m flipping the table & throwing chairs
I don't know what to think about what's going on, but I can't get enough of the creepy mystery going on in this town! Showing the "Lost" reference, maybe it's like that. There's an evil presence trying to keep people in the town (Martin) and a good presence (boy in white shorts) trying to save people? Some sort of supernatural game? Can't wait for season 3!!!!
Ankgooey, my dude. Ankgooey.
Ah ha! ankgooey! 🤔
Another notable thing differentiating Martin from the townspeople trapped inside the same walls was that his eyes were clear and open and he was able to talk. With the others they weren't able to converse with Boyd and their eyes were glazed over so that already shows Martin could not have been a real person.
Wait!! Julie's body was still in the real world, and she was in the dungeon too. Does that mean Martin's body was still in the real world too?
If he is just the evil entity he doesn't need a body. If he was actually a person then yes, his body would be somewhere else.
@@brandonreed09 Confirmed real person.
His name is on the list of people who have arrived in the town that is posted on the board in the post office.
Never quite connected the line from Boyd when he says I'll carry you to town. Well done
I also believe like Lost there is an ultimate battle between good and evil Boy in White (Jacob) and the Locust entity (The man in black) either combating for some ultimate prize or escape from that pocket dimension into the real world etc.
Cicadas.
By far the most logical theory I’ve heard so far
Producers looking at all your comments…
I've been waiting for this man ,
Took you long enough 😂 keep up the good work
I try. I only do these videos part time. 😅
My theory is that they all were about to die in a car crash, but jumped dimensions instead. That’s why they come from all over the US. That’s why they are stuck in this realm with these things that have been stuck in there since for centuries. For S3, I think tabitha will somehow come across victor’s sister (because she was mentioned on going after their mom, but her body was never mentioned to be found) and tabitha will prob try and convince her to find a way to go back in order to save everyone
Victor says that the trees have been moving. This to me, indicates that this place itself moves. So it's possible it can move through certain areas of the country, capturing people in it's dimension. Sort of like how in Lost the island would move location from time to time.
Dude! That is the best theory yet
I think the reason there are so many different types of religious or spiritual symbols in this show is because you are right. If it’s using their fears and they are all from different backgrounds and places, then the different rituals and tools and symbols would all be intertwined as well.
Plus, I think maybe the place where tabitha woke up is where they are studying this entity.
Maybe they caught the boogeyman and have put in a alternate space with these people to study it and how it effects people and how people effect it.
I posted this theory in a little chan called Parklin Media 6 days ago (currently the last vid), that's before ep 10 aired, so whether it's a coincidence or not, I couldn't agree more with this
This idea of Martin being the boogeyman would also account for the fact that he has normal eyes while the three later on all had the white eyes plus if he was a real person his body would need to be somewhere, right? The other three still existed physically in town while their souls or whatever were stuck in the dungeon room
Man, you really solved it. That's it. Almost a spoiler. I'll just wait to see how they will reveal this in the show. But it's definitely it. Congrats!
You might be right that abby was the boogie man and that's why the monsters stop moving toward the RV. Because they fear the doggy man
Martin and Randall look a lot alike. Mariel and Julie we're inside where talismans could protect them. I find it very peculiar that Randall was left outside with no talisman right where the monsters were and they didn't kill him. It will not be a surprise to me if we later find out that Randall is connected to Martin as this Boogeyman.
Eman, I was already a subscriber and big fan of your reviews and I didn’t even know you watched From. Now you come out with this genius recap and you answered my (many) questions about this past season that I’ve been asking myself all week, but I didn’t want my husband to think I was a dumbass due to the sheer volume of things I didn’t get in season 2.
If supersubscribers were a thing, I’d be one. Thank you!!! ❤
This makes sense, like many theories do, I’d say when Martin says the town is the worst part he’s being honest as the monsters had to search for the people and thus it’s the worst part. Most people would think it’s the best part even before the talismans. Especially because you would assume the woods would be worse or even the caves. I know Boyd thought he meant because of no talismans, but I don’t think that’s the case. He didn’t even seem interested in the talismans when Boyd told him.
Martin actually says I thought the town was the worst part until I went through the tree. The things that come out of the forest are just the tip of the spear. So in his words the town is nothing compared to what else is out there that we haven't seen yet.
Boyd didn't use the worms as a weapon, he only wanted to get rid of them to save his son.
I think there may be a lot of different monsters demons bad things in this place and the bottle tree has something to do with it. This new thing needed those 3 to die to be released like a sacrifice and I think if we get more background stories it’ll be easier to figure out.
I think you are right. In the cave there was that giant black/red figure that seems to be a dominant evil. That means there is one entity that controls this world and all the monsters. My question is for what reason Martin gave the worms to Boyd? Did he expect him to think that he could kill monsters with the worms? Or he expected him to pass the worms to everyone in the city or maybe to take control of Boyd's mind?
I think we will see a spider eventually. And maybe it will be a “good” entity. Ethan has mentioned spiders twice. Once when he was hurt in the RV and once when they were digging in the basement. Then there is the drawing of the spider and Boyd and Sarah were dragged to a part of the forest where there was webs everywhere. I think it’s good because the spider drug Sarah and Boyd to a place where they would see the lighthouse. Also spiders eat insects and the “bad entity” has shown up as worms and cicadas.
Since we've seen the spider, do you think we'll also see "the turtle" the benevolent entity that opposes Pennywise, the evil spider?
@@eddiet3026 could be, I wouldn’t rule anything out at this point!😆
A simple but yet an interesting question, How did Martin throw the rope?
Great theory! Unfortunately, this show is NEVER give us the answers. It’s clear the writers are intent on creating mystery than providing answers. So much so that they will definitely end the show in the same way. It’ll be one of those, “the audience decides for themselves what really happen” situations.
As much as I liked lost; I'm hoping for some more answers this time
Man I tapped in! You got a new subscriber out of me! These videos are wild I love it 😝 !!
One counter point. How do Julie, Randall, and Bitch girl appear in the chamber AND back in town?
The 'bodies' imprisoned are souls.
It's how Martin was still there and could not 'die'.
So either Martin was real
His soul at least.
Or he has already expired and been twisted/ having his image used by the entity.
Counter to the counter... If let's say when someone dies their soul disappears, then why were those skeletons there when Boyd first arrived? I mean I don't know the rules to this place. 😅
Well that's no counter considering Julie's physical body was in town and in the chamber.
The ones in the chamber must be psychic constructs, souls, ect.
Who says souls are intangible and white clouds? Lol.
When you die in the town from the cicadas, you appear to fully transition to the chamber in a soul like, yet physical state. There is no saving you at that point. There is only releasing your soul via transferring the worms.
I believe those imprisoned are physical manifestations of souls, forced to stay there and relive periods of hope and despair, a forever dream and nightmare, fueling the entity of that place.
I believe someone managed to free Martin's counterparts before,
But he remained.
A battery and or meal. Eternal.
Til Boyd came lol
What's confusing in season 2 is Martin warns Boyd that he needs to get out BEFORE the music stops. Then later, Boyd comes back to stop the music himself. It seems that we have lies and truths to figure out. And who and what can really be trusted? The boy in white? The apparitions of dead townspeople? The voices that Sara and possibly Reggie heard? The dreams? Martin? The ballerina? The monsters that come out at night definitely can't be trusted.
Sara and Nathan's house was taken over by Reggie and Paula. I believe Reggie heard voices just like Sara did and killed Paula like Sara killed Tobey. I don't believe his story about her just suddenly being torn up from within. The voices may have also told him to keep everyone awake. If no one sleeps, then they make dumb mistakes.
The cicada ritual may be how to form new monsters from townspeople. Randall, Marielle, and Julie's eyes looked like the night monsters eyes. Even monster Jasmine stated , "I wasn't always this way." Randall was not killed that night even though he was exposed. The cicadas came from monster Smiley after the ballerina showed Boyd how to transfer the worms. If the worms are never transferred, then the host dies? Anyway, it seems that the original 1950s folk were infested by the cicadas and transformed into night monsters.
Also note that when all 3 of them being possessed by the Cicadas, their physical bodies were still present but also inside of the chamber. Martin body was in the chamber where is his current body? He could definitely be the bad guy!
Here's what I've been thinking while watching season 2: Martin could have been a real person, and the worms were somehow keeping him alive. I was also thinking that maybe his human body died and it was just his soul that was trapped. I thought the actual monster was the ballerina. I have this theory that this town used to be a normal town but something happened and all the people who lived there became the monsters. The ballerina was a woman who lived in this town and for whatever reason she became a different kind of monster and her powers are connected to the music box she owned when she was alive. I also suspect the children may have been some sort of human sacrifice and that's why their souls are trapped and need saving. Maybe the sacrifice didn't work out and it had something to do with the boy in white, that's why he seems different than everybody else. Idk, just random thoughts I've been having while watching the show.
Not related but we now know Victor had a sister who escaped to follow their mother in the night of the attack. On the finale it was implied that Victor found his mother's body close to the bottles farway tree, but no sign of his sister, who probably was able to go into the tree. WHAT IF Tilly is Victor sister's, she was able to escape and now return? (Shoutout to @user-to8fm2zy8t 's comment saying that Till is a returnee btw)
1- We haven't seen Tilly nor Victor interact yet (and he probably wouldn't have recognized her anyway since he buried all his trauma, not even remembering he had a sibling);
2- she seemed to be the only "new comer" who was enjoying her time when the bus arrived at Fromville;
3- she also chose to stay at colony house (Victor's residence).
4- We were never told Victor's sister age but she could've been slighlty older or appear that way due to many other factor like pollution (that don't seem to affect fromville) or maybe illness (she brought the morphine).
Idk I just think they focused too much on Tilly for there not to be a specific reason.
Yea, it's been a running theory, but the thing is, she's too old.
Tilly definitely throws up a lot of red flags - she knows too much. But I don't think she's Victor's sister. Instead, I think Tabitha will find Victor's sister in the real world and together they will formulate a plan to rescue everyone.
Maybe she was just happy because she was high af off that morphine
@@jayceepoozethat’s my exact thought. I think she’s going to find victors sister in the real world and she will recognize victors lunch box
My theory is that they’re in a shared dream world that you wake up from when you die. I think Tilly is Victor’s mom who chose to return or was somehow able to return maybe as a mercy before her death from cancer, since she’s already dying. That being said, Abby said she had a nightmare of the place as a child. I think she died at the lighthouse as Eloise and she remembered that they all had to die to wake up. It would be cool if Tabitha found Abby in the real world because I believe Abby is sending messages from there in her dreams to help them get out. She told Boyd in the dungeon it doesn’t matter if you save them, you’re all going to die anyway. It’s true. They’re going to die and wake up eventually. By hoping and fighting for survival, they prolong their time there. But giving up on survival goes against Boyd’s nature( Mr. Fish and Loaves) so it’s nearly impossible to get him to stop.
It doesn’t matter if you are wrong. I just subscribed! 🤣 That was an amazing take!
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that not even the writers know what's going on. It's like lost. 🤦🏻
They’ve said in an interview that it’s not like lost….
Here’s what I took from season 2 finale. Abby was right at the beginning. It’s all cap and you have to die to get out. “ hope is what feeds the place, not fear” I have a theory Tabitha and Boyd’s wife will find each other somehow and in their own way, they’ll try to go back to town or figure it out.
Either that or she advanced to a next level fuck hole😭
Think you might be into something, after all the people who created this helped produce Lost and it reminds me of the man in black who would manifest as different people throughout the series. I think this is what is happening here... Martin, Father Katri, Abby, Tom the barman etc are all one and the same
I was thinking the same thing. All the dead people are the same entity mixing truth and lies.....I can't remember but was Sarah possessed when she killed everyone or was she following orders from the voices in her head?
Thanks for the theory. Very interesting and a good possibility. There are so many questions? 1) Location and geography? Where or when is this place where they are trapped and why have they not been able to clear the road? 2) Environmental changes? The trees moving, the weather, past and potential flood? 3) Monsters and physical manifestations?