Achieving The Ultimate Rock/Metal Tone with a Pick
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
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imagine interviewing yourself from another universe
Why because they’re both bald and English?
@@l0xx79 and both play bass
Jeremiah Fernandez and wear glasses
Hilarious....
The only thing missing is the glove
Hair metal is out. Bald metal is in!!
@Edu Damn! I guess I'm kind of a big deal now. Thank you to all my fans, and to all the haters...go suck an egg.
Yay, my time arrived!!
Totally, as Jordan Rudess is a visionary, he had started that out many years ago. lol
Bearded soy latte four eyes Metal is in!
You got that right Dada poopoo
I really liked the point with a thin pick being like a compressor; Really cool point to make Nolly!
I play with a pick, but a 1.14mm DunlopTortex. I might try a thinner pick and see how it goes.
yes very nice point. I play mostly with fingers. On guitar i am using 1.60mm, but on bass 0.71 and now i tried 0.60 , which Nolly using and on bass this thickness or 0.71 seems to be the best. Very amazing sound punchy very nice tone. I am starting to love playing with pick more and more.
I've always used around 1mm, I reckon it will probably help give a bit more relief and help endurance too
I depends on the style of music. For fast picking that matches the speed of guitars and bass drum kicks in black and death metal a pick thinner than 0.9mm becomes quite hard to control and it does take its toll on your wrist/arm.
Idk why people cringe so much over picking a bass
As long as you make an instrument sound good shouldn't matter what technique you're using tho
I don't get it either, honestly I wouldn't understand why a bassist wouldn't wanna learn both. Never hurts to be well rounded
Couple of my favorite players use pick. Justin chancellor and Brian Cook
That shit still baffles me too. I was in this music store looking for my first bass, and when I found one that I really wanted to try out, I asked the owner if I could borrow a pick, and he fuckin rolled his eyes at me as if I offended him. I don’t know how people are still this fucking snobby about piece of plastic scraping metal strings.
Most of them aren't musicians, or at best less talented or experienced musicians.
I don't even play prog and rock. But i watched because i like Nolly's bass technique and Periphery so much!
Nolly is a boss. I have learned so much invaluable information from him, not only about playing, but especially audio engineering. I have a home studio and am always studying and learning new techniques and tricks from all over the internet, but when I found all of his videos, my sound quality on my mixes and every instrument, especially drums, improved incredibly. I will forever be thankful for everything he has done to make his knowledge accessible to us, and so easy to comprehend.
total opposite styles that these guys play but both understand each other
Music, an universal language with many dialects
Holy crap, Nolly and Scott in the same video, thats amazing
The crucial thing here is that Nolly treats the bass as a tool; bass playing is not a self-indulgent pursuit for him.
I am not even a fan of Periphery or anything that Nolly is in but DANG, I have to add that as a guitar player he seems to be a KING as well, and probably because of the reason that you mentioned: He works for the song not for the ego!
I didn't know Michael from Vsauce played bass!
Ma, I was looking at the thumbnail and was thinking the EXACT same thing!!
Man I didn’t know this joke was still alive?
@@joeyb4766 Tbh I didnt't know it was a joke about Scott himself. Adam Getgood legitimately bears a striking resemblance to Michael from Vsauce, not only in the bald+beard with glasses look but just in his general facial features
*buff michael from vsauce
Or Sam Whistler from Biographics
Also his strings seem to have about 0 action. They seem to be laying on the frets at rest. Not that it's bad, but likely also a big contribution to the sound.
Entirely. String height is so vital to tone and it's almost never acknowledged.
Agreed. I first had insight into this after seeing Shining, and their bassist at the time, Christian Larsson, told me after the gig that his every note pretty much buzzes off the frets to get that sound, and it's successful even with playing with fingers.
KevinAlustrium well higher actuion tends to have a better attack, but less precission
@@recipoldinasty more sustain and dynamics as well. Trade off is, it can be more difficult to play quickly.
You would need low action by using such a thin pick.
Treble - 3:30 O' Clock
Mids - 4 O' Clock
Bass - 12:30 O' Clock
Don't forget compression.
Greatest tone I've ever had.
That EQ settings are kind of irrelevant, if we don't know which amp you mean.
@No U or plug-in, or DAW... who knows?
Probably means the tone controls on the bass
We dont know wich bass, wich settings on bass, wich pedals, wich amp, wich voicing on the cab, wich freq the mids are centered around and so on
@@josuastangl7140 I put that configuration on my orange crush bass 50
and it works very well, a lot of clarity
Nice bass, though I’m not a *fan* of the frets.
I’ll see myself out
Lol
Get a fretless ;)
@@joninawhitecoat Fretless with that bridge would be impossible to play ;-)
@@u2dva I have seen a fretless Dingwall, with lines.
It would be impossible without lines.
Fanned fretless? Are you crazy?
This is priceless 😍😍
(Using .60mm for similar reasons 🙈
Your style always reminds me of Nolly, I assumed he is one of your inspirations
Your the bomb Rufus!!!!
@@akatsukiamp yeah he's one of my inspirations now... I didn't know about him until I worked on a progressive metal project about a year ago. The guitarists in the band told me I really should study Nolly because I use pretty much the same thing... And so I did and have no regrets xD
@@joshuavanscoyk9404 thank you 🙈🖤
well I use a 3mm thicc picc
Although I’m really not a fan of metal/hard rock, I do appreciate that you are exploring some other styles here Scott, so on behalf of the rockers out there, thank you.
I’d personally would love to see you break down Bernard Edwards chucking technique. Super funky technique. Reminds me of Bobby Vega, but without an actual pick.
Not sure if this is something you’ve already covered before but it would be great to see.
Larry Graham used the same technique as Edwards, but he called it using the "LG Pick."
An actual MasterClass 👌
This is the format.
Good to see Scott covering some rock bass styles 👍🏻
That bass is cool. This vid will bring out the anti pick snobs that say you should never use one on a bass. Screw them. I'm also a long time "Gitar" player that got into bass. It was because my band at the time couldn't find a bass player. I just loved the low end. I also played keyboards so it was a natural fit being a lifelong Rush fan lol. Great video, I love the sound of that bass.
Anti-pick bassists just aren't matured musicians lmao. I'm mainly a finger player but a pick adds a nice punch that sounds great
@@KidneyPunch11 I hear you. For me it depends on what I'm playing.
Nothing wrong with using a pick if that’s what you like. Personally I like the sound of fingerstyle. I don’t dig the scratchiness of the pick attack.
There are no rules. Use pick, fingers, slapp, trample on the neck with your Boots- as long as it sounds interesting and fits the style of music.
Kong and Basses NO. Playing PICK on BASS is ILLEGAL. SLAP LIKE NOW if you agree
so excited to see nolly on here
looks like they are having a bald-off
No hair metal
Only the shiniest will survive
Or a Hair-off!
Or a glasses off
@@sageanderson8527 lol
4:36 Devin Townsend reference! That makes me happy.
all these videos you’re making with Nolly, i haven’t been happier in the whole month
Yes, completely agree about the whole thin pick thing. I play bass for a hardcore punk band so we play very fast at times and I physically would be in pain if I used thicker picks.....I also love the tone that thinner picks give the bass.
Watching this and Fat Mike's newest video about playing bass with a pick back to back was entertaining
They are at opposite ends of rock music, especially when it comes to technique and precision
I guess the fanned frets help with tuning issues as well.
Damn I want a Dingwall!
It's a Djengwall
Dingwalls are sexy
Yeah I owned a six string dingwall with an F below the B string. It sounded like Thor's hammer, like the freaking ground was splitting open. Had to sell though sadly. Nolly was the reason I got it. th-cam.com/video/HCp8vE1ZT0g/w-d-xo.html
I really need to have a play on a dingwall so I can find out if it feels good enough to justify ruining my life for a year to afford one.
I agree with Nolly, but I like thicker picks for guitar so it doesn’t sound clacky
If you're picking that aggressive way with a thicker pick and continue to practice with it, I've come to learn it's helps dial in on my dynamics of picking & plucking even that much more! It's been a very useful exercise in improving overall.
The tip with using a thinner pick was really helpful. I had assumed that heavy picks were the norm. Put down my 1.14mm and picked up an 88mm and immediately heard a substantial improvement. Thanks!
Glad to see my favorite bassist on this channel! Great choice Scott!!!
If metal music was mixed more like it is on that last clip (with prominence of bass), I would listen to A LOT more metal music
Time to listen to some prog metal then heh. Tesseract, unprocessed, earthside, bass is pretty prominent in these bands and many others
Listen to tool then
Listen to Cynic... Sean Malone is fretless god.
I’ve recently gotten into a lot of Doom (Electric Wizard, Cough, Conan etc.) and part of the reason I love it so much is that the bass tends to play a big role.
Definitely try out some TesseracT then. Amos Williams is an absolute beast of slap with a super nice tone to boot
Adam's bass strap is LEGIT
I'm so glad you're finally including metal on the channel! Still, love the rest of your content, but, ever since getting a bass, I've had renewed interest in metal and it had simply been absent on here til now.
Leo Fender designed an instrument called the electric bass GUITAR largely so six-string players could double on a bass-range instrument, and many of the early bass guitarists played with a pick. I've always thought the saying "bassist who play with a pick are just frustrated guitarists" was ridiculous... they ARE playing a guitar!
It's so nice to hear a metal bassist talk about the desire for consistency and precision. So many bassists (who are great musicians, and excellent at what they do, don't get me wrong) are very focused on naturalism in their playing. They want their lines to sound like they've been played by a human, with a wide dynamic range. Which is fine, for their styles of music, but not suited to certain styles of metal.
As a death metal bassist, I am, as Nolly says, basically trying to get the opposite of that - part of the style's appeal is superhumanly tight playing, & you really do want your basslines to be as close to MIDI as possible.
I think a lot of people think they can somehow "escape" humanity if they actually try to be consistent even though, no matter what, there's a bit of error when a human being plays something.
As I see it, real control over your dynamic range means being able to play both dinamically and consistently at will.
I view him as the opposite extreme to be honest. Modern metal is too clinical and has zero life. With that being said, all playing/writing should be in service of the song
As a beginner guitarist who "tries" to add my own bass to a song, this was great. Nolly is an animal. Good stuff!
Stranglers' albums Rattus Norvegicus IV and No More Heroes are something to listen to for aggressive bass sound. Prog band Yes is another one.
If anyone is interested, the tuning Nolly uses here is CGCF (Drop-C tuning).
beeen wondering that!!!Thank you!
AGCF is what's used for Prayer Position
Listen to David Sims from Jesus Lizard, that's a good distorted picked rock bass tone
Thanks Scott! Periphery is my favourite band.....I really enjoyed this video
My playback speed was set at 1.5x from another video. I was like "HOLY CRAP, he can play fast!" XD
Lol I'm pretty sure he could play this fast tho
Good lord, Nolly should also do audiobooks. No matter the topic.
Either those lapel mics or their EQ sounds terrible. But Scott I love seeing Nolly on here, since his Prayer Position playthrough, man, he has a good sound!
the key is darkglass pedal!
Is he playing Darkglass here?
@@MatthiasBuesing always
alfin encuentro a alguien que toca como me gusta, todos los otros bajistas que veo tienen un estilo funky o groove
All I'm taking away from this is play hard and ignore the fiddly guitarist softness, which I kind of already knew but thanks for making me more confident about it, and dig in.
The thing about using a thin pick is that it won't work as a compressor if you're playing this hard. Any material requires more force to be bent over a larger angle in torsion over a short repetitive period. By playing harder with a thin pick you're just going to need more momentum to get the same attack. A slightly thicker pick like a 1.0mm or 1.5mm will add some wrist strain, but the muscles will toughen up after a couple of months, and then you have more control rather than relying on a pick which is getting closer and closer to breaking point. Even a 0.75mm will break after a couple of days when I play with one, whereas the thicker picks get worn edges which do a better job of keeping your playing consistent as they reduce the sharpness of the area the string has to travel over.
Tl,Dr; thick picks wear in to having a nice thin edge, muscles toughen, more control and reward when playing hard
One of the few modern rock/metal/prog bassists that actually dissect what they’re doing
I initially thought that you grew a beard. Then I realized it was Nolly.
he's even got bass in his voice in the interviewer
Real cool of Nolly to interview Scott.
Why did I think the tree swaying in the window was a little astronaut landing outside? 🤣😂🤣😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
4:59
I don't think drive/distortion is always necessary for heavy genres. I think it tends to overwhelm the frequencies and makes a mess. Sometimes all you need is straight up low mids and bass.
Also IMO if it is too constant it can fatigue the listener's ears, but it depends on the exact bass tone. I can only listen to Nolly play for a couple songs before I'm done but I can listen to Lemmy all day. Some of Nolly's tones are goddamn amazing though. I say don't do anything all the time.
Swiss Army Knight
Also Motörhead is a totally different style. The technicality of prog metal is a lot denser and harder to listen to than a thrash trio.
its just eqd this way for demonstration purposes. pretty sure in the album they use multiple tracks of the bass for different frequencies, high and mids being the distorted ones and bass and low mids coming just from the di i think or at least just a clean sound.
Awesome, All i needed to know and more!!! thanks masters!!
It's nice to know that Nolly and I have the same ideas about playing bass with a pick. I do the same angle of attack and even the same thin picks as he does without even knowing it.
There are some bassplayer who found this out.
Like I play like this for more than 30 years.
These guys have two things in common: Glasses and Shiny Heads
and bass players?
So sick
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I find it really funny that Nolly's picking style is essentially him trying to stop the bass djenting
thank you Nolly always drops the knowledge
8:41 Hey! Vsauce, Bass here
Well Ive been thinking about joining Scotts Bass Lessons for a while now but this seals it. I have to learn the secrets of this godly bass tone
Killer tone !!! Great video, Scott is THE MAN :)
Nolly makes me as a guitar player, want to play bass.
The Bass Brothers!
the secrer to a *thicc* bass tone is to be *thicc* yourself
holy shit I never noticed how thicc Nolly is.
A fender heavy pick has the durability to last a while for me. I can't go thinner otherwise the pick just snaps apart after a day or so and usually leads to something painful before I can realize what's happening.
That's why I use the Dunlop nylon picks. I've always used the thicker 1mm, but have been using the .6mm lately after seeing this video. They flex like crazy and never break. You can use one pick for months or even years. Notice he talks about the wear pattern on the pick. Another major plus to the Dunlop picks is the raised lettering, which gives you excellent grip, even when you're sweating heavily. It's like grip tape on a skateboard, or wax on a surfboard. Makes a huge difference.
I loved this video. Periphery has tons of my favorite bass riffs and lines! Thank you for this video. It is very informative! I just have one question, what tuning is that beautiful blue bass in? I cannot tell but it sounds awesome! My bass is currently tuned thusly…
1 - F
2 - C
3 - G
4 - D
5 - A
Looking at the sheet music, the bass is in CGCF (Drop-C tuning).
Nolly's voice soothes me. It is soft but articulated. I would pay him to provide me with an audio recording of him reading bedtime stories, fables and fairy tales (I teach my daughter English, and such bright voice reading interesting stories would surely help).
*Soft-spoken english gentleman* - *Tears the bass in half shredding*
Awesome vid.
I'd love to see Evan Brewer featured on this channel 🤩
I wish he woulda demo’d it’s only smiles!! Love that song!! It makes me happy
This guys a maniac 😮 just brutal basslines
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
im actually suprised at how much gain and how thin his bass sounds in the room vs in the studio recording
He is such a pro!
Hundred percent...you heard Plini's new tune that he mixed and played bass on?!
@@devinebassNot yet, but I'll check it out!
He sounds like he uses building girders for strings on his bass. Massive sound.
Apt description.
Wow that was a lesson as much to sbc. Very impressed & unaware of genre
Glen Fricker is gonna love this!
Great vid, thanks Scott
this guy is a bass wizard
When is the rig rundown and EQs? Watched this already in SBL.
Dude Micheal does everything I swear
I started bass playing Tool so at first i learned with a pick but after 11 years i prefer finger picking for metal as it allows for more options and also allows for easier tapping. Tho to acheive a certain sound a pick is good i guess. Im practicing a lot on my accoustic so i can acheive a similar sound with finger picking as accoustic will forge your strength and endurance so back on an electric bass you can sound ultra aggressive with your finger withou tiering to much also practicing tapping on an accoustic is really good to make aggressive tapping too. I started playing bass on that accoustic bass too so i guess my fingers are strong by now xD
Tool is great, the intro to sober sounds awesome
Nothing against fingers or anything, but how do fingers lend to more options. With picking you get palm mutes and left handed muting. Plus, there are so many pick guys that will tap, slap, open hand pluck, and finger pluck for certain sections of a song. They'll usually hold the pick in their picking hand or their mouth and do whatever they need to do for a section and then switch back to pick for their main tone (not always necessary for tapping). Good examples of this are abandoned by unprocessed and make total destroy by periphery
@@Tangalang22 i guess that in the end its personal tho you can kinda palm mute while fingerstyling i also appreaciate to be able to make tripplets with fingers and just is more fond of the freedom it gives you i also started to add my pinky on my picking hand for some quads
@@Hevvvyyy very nice band tho i think my favorite is rosetta stonned for all the polyritm and offbeat going on
@@TheNeokiller666 yeah. Everything is always up to personal preference. Also, muting finger style has to be open handed and isn't all that aggressive. I imagine you can do it with a butchered slap style but it restricts how many notes and how fast you can play
no no no - first thing.... side to side, you guys look the same XD
great lesson!
🤣🤣🤣
that sound was trademarked by Messuggah, and perfected by Nolly
That tone is much more inspired from Karnivool rather than Messugah
Bro. My pick is compressor. Thinner the pick the more LA-2A it will sound.
Looooove Nolly, baby
Dig the playing and knowledge being bestowed, hate the grindy distorted tone, but I understand why and it does fit perfectly.
Jim Dunlop Gel Pick medium light (green ones) look perfect for this then ( 0.60)
U guys should use the 8va etc instead of using so many little lines under and above the bar! Just a tip :)
Are you at 'Real World' studios? Epic.
That idea of angling/slanting the pick for alternate picking is explored heavily for guitar by Troy Grady. Anyone interested should sus his channel.
Can it get better? The 2 best guys just came together to teach us some BASS
Monster bass player. He is great on Drummers Review as well.
I just stumbled upon this channel and I thought that was Michael from Vsause for a second.
Shots fired shots fired LOL
Every time I see his name, I'm confused that "nolly" is in parentheses and not "getgood", like what's more likely to be a real name
but he gotgood, I'll give him that
I'm gonna move from bass guitar to bass keytar. ;)
he looks like a badass vsause
Huh. I was gonna go pick up some more picks tomorrow cause I just lost my favorite pick for playing bass, but it was a thick one. A real thick one. I'm still gonna find something similar to it, but I'll try out some thinner ones as well.
I always saw the flimsy picks as a detriment to my bass tone, but I guess I just never experimented enough
Did Nolly just say that his ideal bass sound was in fact... kind of... sort of... actually... that of a *MIDI instrument?*
Right.
I was just about to buy a new bass,
but now I'm considering saving the money and working a bit on my programming skills instead... 😁
This is something I asked for. So, thank you.