For long fight- Fragment set is better .. But you can use Gladiator set, If you have good Piece... Gladiator:-202,908 Fragment:-181,906(last attak miss +30k)
Got very surprised when my 240cv gladiator build didnt even hit 10% top rankings. Im sure plenty of vetern players got insane gladiator peices that the new set wouldn't overtake in months if not years
@@jeyeuekdjfjddoes crit value matter more than the artifact 4pc effects? Ive wasted thousands of resin on her artifact domain already, and couldnt even get to 60 cr and 200 cd 😭😭(My arle is at 50cr and 195cd with the new artifacts, guess spendingr esin on bosses is more worth it than on ehr domain since sadly there isnt a domain for gladiator :( literally found out it doesnt have a domain todsy)
@@Furina_-_De_-_Cuntaine I would say they go together but for Arlecchino, you can use 2pc of Crimson Witch and a 2pc that could give your more ATK, even a 4pc gladiator is good for her, so truly, I would recommend giving her what you want which is what I did, and she works just as well so- I don’t think you should waste so much resin on her domain specially since it seems like no one is getting anything good at all
Well, her damage is going down while life bond decreases so Gladiator's strongest hits would be earlier in her attack chain as the 37k was the 2nd hit while the 3rd hit was 34.4k. Fragment ramps up which is why the 38k was the 3rd hit even though lifebond is going down. This means Fragment starts doing 11% more damage as soon as it is fully active (the 3rd normal attack), you can double check with the 4th and 5th hits and the same remains true. This means should the fight persist longer than 3 attacks Fragment will continue to beat Gladiator by 11% for the rest of the fight. Edit: Not to mention Fragment's 54% affects the Q and E as well while Gladiator does not.
According to 4p buffs new artifact is 5% more powerful than gladiator. So old players who already have tons of gladiator artifacts, just go for gladiator.. new one isn't worth spending your resin on. But clorinde will probably use this artifacts as well so if you are planning to get her then you can farm this.
The problem in the domain is the burning set. The fact that Clorinde needs the same set with almost the same stats as Arlecchino only made it worse. The burning set is still only a niche option for Ganyu and Wrio in melt teams and even there it's hardly better than their universal standard sets
@@ВасилийШилов-ч2г nah you're wrong... If you want to use pyro ressonance You should have 4 members in your team. Otherwise, it will not work. You can try it.
Great showcase! The new set is really good but the difference in her DPS in a full team is only about 10% including charge, skill and burst since those deal very low dmg to begin with as her main damage is from normal attack. Glad effect is always active while Fragment take 3 hit/BoL change to max while her highest dmg start at the first hit and goes down from there hence why total DPS difference is only about 10% give or take (yes it does affect skill and burst you use your skill before you activate the passive and only use skill with buff and passive active on 2nd rotation forward and the burst is rarely used unless C2, even then you deal more DPS by not using the burst so using it every other rotation or less is ideal. Oh and do note that her SIG give her extra BoL but since it apply at the same time as her skill effect idk if that count as 2 change in value of BoL or one, if so then C2+SIG difference might be slightly more than 10% into 11 or even 12% than at C0 R0). 10% is noticeable but is it significant? maybe, up to you. Just know that Glad VS Fragment dmg is only about 4-5 substat difference and before you surpass that substat your Fragment set will deal about the same or less than your Glad set and don't forget there are other set like Witch etc and 2 piece set as well. So assuming you have 35 useful roll in your Glad (that's 4-5 crit/piece+2-3 atk/em and maybe a few ER. Some people might even have 40 roll set at this point), you need at least 30 roll in your Fragment set before you reach the same DPS and then you only surpass glad after you get the same substat which can take anywhere between 2-3 months or more if you are unlucky and this is farming on a domain with only one useful set and this set can only be used by one character So yea, be wise with your resin. My glad isn't perfect but I'm happy with 85/210 crit (240 CV from artifact) using PJWS and ton of attack+EM so I'm not going to grind the new set (my glad is 35-39 roll depend on my build as I have atk+Pyro build for mono pyro, EM build for Vape and also full atk build for non Bennett team) edit: Yall need to do math, Glad VS Frag is only 35% VS 54% which is 19% damage bonus difference. This might seems like a lot but it isn't, she got ton of dmg bonus already from passive, artifact, weapon and team, getting beyond 100% is easy so any extra dmg bonus will go down in value as you have more. Anyway you need to calculate the whole rotation instead of just maximum dmg cuz that's just skewed, like if you compare this set to EM set then yes the Vape dmg will have higher number but she only vape every 3 attack and maybe double vape cuz of 2.5 sec ICD every so often while the rest of her dmg isn't vaping so the EM is useless then so her overall DPS from EM set is lower than Fragment but again, probably only about 8-12% assuming the exact same substat.
Gladiators isn't that bad. I mean, this will do the job. Now coming to the matter of consolation.I'm a f2p player. I didn't even get her weapon because of primozems.😅
Well you can utilize Fragments passive with Arle's Scythe coz it gives 25% BOL when charged atk hits. While Gladiator is best for overall weapon. So if u want to farm Fragments you need her BIS weapon to utilize it very well. But for me, Glad is better and consistent dmg
It should be clarified that the one who played the game from the very beginning has very cool pieces of gladiator when a new set needs to be farmed. After 1.5 years, I couldn't farm a good set for Nahida
@@Kizuna_ss Thats the issue, EM piece are so rare and good em piece is even more so. My nahida have 900 EM and somewhat decent crit but it could be better, ofc if you only care about pure support capability then yea just get random EM piece and be done with it but her own DPS is good enough where I can't be satisfied with that
I totally agree with this..I've been farming for Nahida but even after so many attempts I keep failing to get her em piece..there should be a pity system here also
Arlecchino's ingame builds have finally been released and her top pick seems to be gladiator deapite the new artifacts is her best set, only issue is that for 2 or more years people have been stocking their best glads and wanderers tgat it wont be a surprise if a lot of glads or wanderers have pwrfects stats compaired to recent artifacts,it will take another 6 months to 1 year to farm tge perfect artifact while the perfect gladiator has been there catching dust in the shelf for 2 or more years, so while farming for her best artifacts ill stick with my glads until then
Gladiator can definitely be used as a stopgate while piecing together the new set. I have enough Gladiator set pieces with outstanding substats, but eventually the new set will overtake Gladiators, even with bad/wrong substats. Besides, new sets work with the upcoming characters too.
Надо ещё учитывать, что гладиатор улучшает урон только от обычных атак, а новый сет улучшает весь урон. Новый сет, помимо обычных атак, ещё и урон Q увеличивает на 54%
Ты прав... Но я не думаю, что тебе стоит тратить свой resins..Если у вас уже есть хорошая вещь Gladiator, вы можете сделать это... Если вы чувствуете, что вам нужны новые фигуры, то фармить следует только вам.💗💗💗
I literally have a 70/200 ratio with Gladiator and I'm not going to waste resin on a 1k difference in damage, it's literally a rounding up away from being the same.
My glad set is insanely good atm and will takes ages to replace but since I have nothing else to spend my resin on, I will definitely be farming this new set.
Гармоническая симфония сильнее, она также дает 18% Силы атаки + 18*3=54% урона от атак за снижение/увеличение долга, долг получаешь от обязательной старта Ешки + расходует каждая атака - за 6 секунд атаки Арлекино быстро наберут и будут поддерживать нужное значение для 54%, тогда как Гладиатор = 18 Силы атаки + 35% урона от атак (но сразу), проблема в том, что сабстаты на артефактах явно будут отличаться и на Гладиаторе могут тупо оказаться более сильные характеристики, что и вовсе нивелируют эту разницу между сетами артефактов, ведь это всего лишь относительно стабильные 54% против гарантированных 35% = 19% разницы, такой процент силы атаки можно спокойно набрать в сабстатах артефактах и не заметить - разница не слишком велика.
Ты прав.Если у вас есть хорошая деталь Gladiator Like 70/240 CV... Вам не нужно начинать новую ферму Artifacts... Если нет гарантии, что вы получите хороший кусок.
fragments vs gladiator is like signature vs whitetassel on her . White tassel is good but signature makes her cracked edit - this is not a correct shiwcase , in full 4 player party her damage increase upto 20% compared to gladiator
Easy win for gladiator because you can strongbox it, hopefully genshin follows on giving us the newly released artifacts like you can synthesize newly released relics in hsr. But thats high hopes to ask knowing genshin.
harmony passive needs to be increase or decrease 3 times. when you use her skill and charge attack, it only counts as 1 stack and 2 more when u m1, so only the third m1 has max passive
i think the new set isnt worth it since it requires a huge amount of grinding for diminishing returns, it will be more worth it to just keep gladiator and save resin (unless youre going for clorinde which also uses BoL)
Arlechinos one of the weakness is her dmg isn't consistent. It lowers as her BOL goes down but this new set reduces this problem a bit. So its better to farm for it and use the glad temporarily
ok now i want to farm this artifact soooo bad cause i also saw her dmg is gradually going down (i’m currently using 4 glad) when the BOL is about to “empty”.
I’m not sure what they’ve done to the rng but I’m done with farming new sets. Been farming since release and still haven’t got a single piece with double crits.
even as f2p i still farm it if anything for her /potential future characters and well its not like i am in dire need of any other artifacts sets so my as well and useless pieces can go into strongbox
Gladiator dmg down less 29k-28K- in 4-7 hit.. But new artefak still 32k dmg for last hit.. Hmm i think new artefak set good for arlecchino to mainten dmg for consistent 👍
@@Kizuna_ss my friends called me crazy till I pointed out that she already gets 40% pyro bonus from her passive plus if you have 2pc Crimson/Gladiator it’s now 55%
Yeah, instead of going to the trouble of grinding gacha a new artifact for her, it's better to use the resin for resources, unless you want gacha clorinde,, just grind a new artifact for her later.
I dont have Father, but i plan on getting her during her rerun. Im not in the mood to farm artifacts. That 11% damage is negligible, considering the tine I'd waste farming artifacts. Also, since i don't have Emily that domain isnt artifact efficent for me. Maybe ill pursue that set once it hits the strongbox.
I am currently using 4pc MH set and I think it is better than my 4pc Gladiator set. I am currently farming her new set to see if it is any better than Gladiator or MH. If not I'll probably stick with MH.
@@Kizuna_ss well I did say MY gladiator set. Based on the stats on my gladiator set and the stats on my MH set, MH is in fact better for me. It also allows me to sacrifice CR to get more atk or CD.
@@Kizuna_ss also she herself doesn't have to decrease her own Hp. It activates after being attached or standing in burning grass. And her healing ability also activates it even if it's only one stack.
@@Kizuna_ss yeah, I get 100 cr and 200 cdmg with that. And I don't use shields so enemies are practically buffing me when they attack (or I'll use Furina) Bennett also helps with atk buff and gives her some er.
@@Kizuna_ss I tried hunter set with Furina on her and it work wonder but you do need 130-150 ER to burst every rotation and heal yourself. The dmg does kinda fall off a bit on second rotation since you can get max BoL if you did not burst on 2nd rotation but this team hit hard enough to one cycle any boss and only struggle a little in multiple wave chamber. You can see my Arle showcase with Furina, she is absurdly powerful but super paper so other than for show off it isn't worth it IMHO (I died a lot trying this team kekw.) My team is Father, FUrina, Ben, Xianyun with TTDS to not only swirl pyro but also heal Ben and Furina and give atk buff, she end up not falling behind C0 Kaz/Sucrose. You can get the same result with Yelan, C2 Kaz and ben but I'm broke and my kaz is C0 so yea that Furina team is my strongest Arle team. My fav team with Arle is still Vape Zhongli+Ben with either Yelan or Xinqiu depend on how hard the enemy hit. Yelan is ideal for dmg and perfectly timed rotation while Xinqiu give significant dmg reduction so you don't ever need to worry about your shield breaking so you can face tank any attack with ease but I need 1-2 sec of down time before I can use XQ skill+Burst in rotation which isn't ideal but not a big deal. Oh and in case of AOE I use mono pyro with either Ben+Kaz+Xiangling or Ben+Kaz+Zhongli. Since my Arle is C1 her dmg is strong enough where the extra buff makes her powerful enough to ignore Xiangling unlike Diluc/Klee
I have a problem. I use 2 piece gladiator and 2 piece marechaussee hunter set. I’ve got jade spear on her for crit rate and excess attack. This brings my attack to 3,110, and yet my damage is nowhere near yours. Talents are 9 for charged attack and 8 for burst. Level 90. What should I do??
Thinking I will just stick with glad because my luck has been terrible farming her set. I had absolutely terrible luck farming a decent set for Navia of her set, so im all burnt out on doing that again for 3 months...
Even though i've played for about 1.5 years, i still don't have 1 good glad set lmao. Good thing i can farm the new domain and strongbox the gladiator this way lol.
@@Kizuna_ss could be Yseut or Rocky should do as they have million HP and are not affected by any elemental affinity by default. Yseut may also increase BoL which contributes to Arle's kit. Thank you!
Could you also show Echoes of Offering? I spent some time trying farming those to guve infusion characters and physical something other than shimmy, and I'm wondering if the 4 piece effect of Echoes makes it a contender.
In my opinion those who have Gladiators already that are good for arlecchino is okay. But i say Whimsy is better because it sustains damage compared to Gladiator that suddenly drops damage.
If someone don't want to farm and already have good gladiators set then it's really good for arlecchino.... But if you have arlecchino clorinde and you already build all good character then you should try for fragment set
Nice comparison, I already dive and try to see the comments, but if u don't mind, what device ur using, and can I know your genshin graphic settings please??
This is my potato device 💀 Redmi note 10s ... render resolution- highest (When I record the video) otherwise medium Shadow- low or medium Graphic:-High (for recording) otherwise medium Fps-45 (recording) otherwise 30 And everything low
How did you Enhance the FoHW artifact set done so fast like that, dear Brother? Please give the explanation how to do Enhance susscessfully onto the Crit substat?
Yaaap... But if you want her ult damage then her signature is really good.... For NA vape gladiators is fine no need to farm her set ( If you haven't clorinde)
Can you use Shimenawa with the other sets as a comparison. I have compared it so many times and for me shimenawa seems to be the best, I would like to know if it is the same for others.
2 pc shimenawa and 2 pc gladiator is good combo to if you don't have good 4pc set of gladiator. 4pc shimenawa is not good for arle(only problem is energy. you need to have enough energy before fight)
Nah 2 piece is crap, i tested like the other vid with shimenawa and in my actual playstyle, shimenawa is the best. I have the best substats with shimenawa, cause i farm it many times for yoimia, shogun, yelan and so on. I dont say best, but better as my Gladiator and waaay better as two pieces.
Yeah, i already told i have better sub stats with shimenawa. I tested it many times my best Gladiator 80 k and best shimenawa 86 k per hit. Score like this video or the other with shimenawa, my shimenawa 100k more as Gladiator. This creator show in the other vid shimenawa not the best but good too. Just look the other one, but with my substats shimenawa still best.
Shimenawa is useless on her, you can only use it at her C2 or against multiple opponent so that you can activate your BOL and use normal attack right after using skill. IIRC Shime set effect only active for about 10 sec, at C0 against single target you need to use your skill then switch to do your support and that might take 5-7 sec before going back and use charge then normal attack. as for her dmg it will be almost as good as her BIS set during the buff but once it run out it is worst than Glad. This also exclude the fact that it consume your energy making burst very difficult to do which isn't a big deal in Zhongli team but anywhere else you are screwed
~11 more but is the thing, you can just get a god tier glad while farming the other set with good em/atk and it is going to difficult to change the set
Gladiator with Homa staff gives you more damage and it is much stronger. Fragment with Signature weapon is lesser damage and it is only good for more than 3 enemies. I prefer Gladiator with Homa because the damage is way too far than the fragment set and its signature weapon.
If you have good gladiators set then it's perfect, not need to farm fragment set unless you have extra resins... And also fragment domain gives useless pieces and 2nd artifacts set is useless too
2 piece atk VS 4 Piece glad is about 4-5 substat difference and Glad VS Fragment dmg is only about 4-5 substat difference Before you surpass that substat difference your Fragment set will deal about the same or less than your Glad set. So assuming you have 35 useful roll in your Glad (that's 4-5 crit/piece+2-3 atk/em and maybe a few ER. Some people might even have 40 roll set at this point), you need at least 30 roll in your Fragment set before you reach the same DPS and then you only surpass glad after you get the same substat which can take anywhere between 2-3 months or more if you are unlucky and this is farming on a domain with only one useful set and this set can only be used by one character. (took me over a year to get 35 roll set with good crit ratio for my Raiden and Xiangling). 10 substat is a lot but if your 2 piece set have close to 40 useful stat, you need that -10 substat on fragment to get the same DPS. So yea, be wise with your resin. (4-5 substat is about 10% DPS in hyper carry like her, would be less in other chara)
Pyro is best ( don't use sands EM Or goblet EM Because you will easily get 200 EM from the artifacts substats) If not then U can use Sands EM with better CV ratio
For long fight- Fragment set is better ..
But you can use Gladiator set, If you have good Piece...
Gladiator:-202,908
Fragment:-181,906(last attak miss +30k)
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@@saifshaikh2692 C0 constellation 💀
my gladiator artifacts are literally way too peak that no matter how much id farm that domain i literally won't get any better
Got very surprised when my 240cv gladiator build didnt even hit 10% top rankings. Im sure plenty of vetern players got insane gladiator peices that the new set wouldn't overtake in months if not years
@agiant5715 I was surprised when i made top 4 percent off the gladiator build, farming in her domain sucks so much
same 😭😭 she currently has 250 cd and 75 cr and I don’t think it could get better than that
@@jeyeuekdjfjddoes crit value matter more than the artifact 4pc effects? Ive wasted thousands of resin on her artifact domain already, and couldnt even get to 60 cr and 200 cd 😭😭(My arle is at 50cr and 195cd with the new artifacts, guess spendingr esin on bosses is more worth it than on ehr domain since sadly there isnt a domain for gladiator :( literally found out it doesnt have a domain todsy)
@@Furina_-_De_-_Cuntaine I would say they go together but for Arlecchino, you can use 2pc of Crimson Witch and a 2pc that could give your more ATK, even a 4pc gladiator is good for her, so truly, I would recommend giving her what you want which is what I did, and she works just as well so- I don’t think you should waste so much resin on her domain specially since it seems like no one is getting anything good at all
Well, her damage is going down while life bond decreases so Gladiator's strongest hits would be earlier in her attack chain as the 37k was the 2nd hit while the 3rd hit was 34.4k. Fragment ramps up which is why the 38k was the 3rd hit even though lifebond is going down. This means Fragment starts doing 11% more damage as soon as it is fully active (the 3rd normal attack), you can double check with the 4th and 5th hits and the same remains true. This means should the fight persist longer than 3 attacks Fragment will continue to beat Gladiator by 11% for the rest of the fight.
Edit: Not to mention Fragment's 54% affects the Q and E as well while Gladiator does not.
What is Q and E?
@@avery7939 The PC buttons for Elemental Skill and Elemental Burst.
@@SaintOfFire cool , i love new set
There won't be much difference in solo gameplay... 11% means 1k to 3k
Great analysis me thinks. It's simple and easy to understand
Excellent showcase. I love how the upcoming characters are making old relics and weapons more desirable
I agree ❤❤❤
agree, imagine a mere 3 star weapon can even beat 4 or 5 star weapons
Gladiator is much better for the simple fact that you don't have to spend 1 million resin to get a new set that is moderately decent.
I agree❤
Might as well wait for the set to be added into the artifact strongbox
@@fatts9790 well, you need wait until Snez release..
if they didn't give us the system which make farming artifacts any better, then glad is the way, u dont need to spend million reisin for the domain
@@hongquannguyen5532 gladiator, shimenawa, nobleze and emblem of severed fate its all that you need
According to 4p buffs new artifact is 5% more powerful than gladiator. So old players who already have tons of gladiator artifacts, just go for gladiator.. new one isn't worth spending your resin on.
But clorinde will probably use this artifacts as well so if you are planning to get her then you can farm this.
Yap you're right... Btw for Clorinde you can use Thundersoother
The problem in the domain is the burning set.
The fact that Clorinde needs the same set with almost the same stats as Arlecchino only made it worse.
The burning set is still only a niche option for Ganyu and Wrio in melt teams and even there it's hardly better than their universal standard sets
this is the kind of showcase im looking for; just pure solo, no food buffs.
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Pyro ressonance tho from having Amber on a team
@@ВасилийШилов-ч2г nah you're wrong... If you want to use pyro ressonance You should have 4 members in your team. Otherwise, it will not work. You can try it.
@@Kizuna_ssdidn't know that, I guess The more you know 💫
Great showcase!
The new set is really good but the difference in her DPS in a full team is only about 10% including charge, skill and burst since those deal very low dmg to begin with as her main damage is from normal attack.
Glad effect is always active while Fragment take 3 hit/BoL change to max while her highest dmg start at the first hit and goes down from there hence why total DPS difference is only about 10% give or take (yes it does affect skill and burst you use your skill before you activate the passive and only use skill with buff and passive active on 2nd rotation forward and the burst is rarely used unless C2, even then you deal more DPS by not using the burst so using it every other rotation or less is ideal. Oh and do note that her SIG give her extra BoL but since it apply at the same time as her skill effect idk if that count as 2 change in value of BoL or one, if so then C2+SIG difference might be slightly more than 10% into 11 or even 12% than at C0 R0).
10% is noticeable but is it significant? maybe, up to you. Just know that Glad VS Fragment dmg is only about 4-5 substat difference and before you surpass that substat your Fragment set will deal about the same or less than your Glad set and don't forget there are other set like Witch etc and 2 piece set as well. So assuming you have 35 useful roll in your Glad (that's 4-5 crit/piece+2-3 atk/em and maybe a few ER. Some people might even have 40 roll set at this point), you need at least 30 roll in your Fragment set before you reach the same DPS and then you only surpass glad after you get the same substat which can take anywhere between 2-3 months or more if you are unlucky and this is farming on a domain with only one useful set and this set can only be used by one character
So yea, be wise with your resin.
My glad isn't perfect but I'm happy with 85/210 crit (240 CV from artifact) using PJWS and ton of attack+EM so I'm not going to grind the new set (my glad is 35-39 roll depend on my build as I have atk+Pyro build for mono pyro, EM build for Vape and also full atk build for non Bennett team)
edit: Yall need to do math, Glad VS Frag is only 35% VS 54% which is 19% damage bonus difference. This might seems like a lot but it isn't, she got ton of dmg bonus already from passive, artifact, weapon and team, getting beyond 100% is easy so any extra dmg bonus will go down in value as you have more. Anyway you need to calculate the whole rotation instead of just maximum dmg cuz that's just skewed, like if you compare this set to EM set then yes the Vape dmg will have higher number but she only vape every 3 attack and maybe double vape cuz of 2.5 sec ICD every so often while the rest of her dmg isn't vaping so the EM is useless then so her overall DPS from EM set is lower than Fragment but again, probably only about 8-12% assuming the exact same substat.
Gladiators isn't that bad. I mean, this will do the job.
Now coming to the matter of consolation.I'm a f2p player. I didn't even get her weapon because of primozems.😅
Even when there isnt much difference I know people will still farm for her set for the passives
Don't worry whoever has unlimited resins will form it. Hehehe
Btw Gladiator is best for her and upcoming character Clorinde too
@@Kizuna_ss whales and their best friend 💳💳
@@VentiFan4ever2205hehehe Btw What is the meaning of this box????
@@Kizuna_ss credit card cause whales spend money💸
Exactly what im doing!
Well you can utilize Fragments passive with Arle's Scythe coz it gives 25% BOL when charged atk hits. While Gladiator is best for overall weapon. So if u want to farm Fragments you need her BIS weapon to utilize it very well. But for me, Glad is better and consistent dmg
It should be clarified that the one who played the game from the very beginning has very cool pieces of gladiator when a new set needs to be farmed. After 1.5 years, I couldn't farm a good set for Nahida
Just give her EM
@@Kizuna_ss Thats the issue, EM piece are so rare and good em piece is even more so. My nahida have 900 EM and somewhat decent crit but it could be better, ofc if you only care about pure support capability then yea just get random EM piece and be done with it but her own DPS is good enough where I can't be satisfied with that
I totally agree with this..I've been farming for Nahida but even after so many attempts I keep failing to get her em piece..there should be a pity system here also
Arlecchino's ingame builds have finally been released and her top pick seems to be gladiator deapite the new artifacts is her best set, only issue is that for 2 or more years people have been stocking their best glads and wanderers tgat it wont be a surprise if a lot of glads or wanderers have pwrfects stats compaired to recent artifacts,it will take another 6 months to 1 year to farm tge perfect artifact while the perfect gladiator has been there catching dust in the shelf for 2 or more years, so while farming for her best artifacts ill stick with my glads until then
Gladiator is better than fragment ( You can watch my new video)
Gladiator can definitely be used as a stopgate while piecing together the new set.
I have enough Gladiator set pieces with outstanding substats, but eventually the new set will overtake Gladiators, even with bad/wrong substats.
Besides, new sets work with the upcoming characters too.
In that case you can farm new set(●♡∀♡)
Надо ещё учитывать, что гладиатор улучшает урон только от обычных атак, а новый сет улучшает весь урон. Новый сет, помимо обычных атак, ещё и урон Q увеличивает на 54%
Ты прав... Но я не думаю, что тебе стоит тратить свой resins..Если у вас уже есть хорошая вещь Gladiator, вы можете сделать это... Если вы чувствуете, что вам нужны новые фигуры, то фармить следует только вам.💗💗💗
Bro is the GOAT! Ty for the vid, i had a decent gladiator set and didnt feel like farming for the new one, i feel better sticking to it now :v
If you need Fragment set You can farm it later
What about clorinde , will she have alternative?@@Kizuna_ss
I literally have a 70/200 ratio with Gladiator and I'm not going to waste resin on a 1k difference in damage, it's literally a rounding up away from being the same.
Yap gladiator is good option for her
My glad set is insanely good atm and will takes ages to replace but since I have nothing else to spend my resin on, I will definitely be farming this new set.
Gladiator is best my friend.. I tested in long fight... 100k difference in vape team
True, if the fight is long the new set shines, and usually thats the case,it depends how good are your artifacts, they need to be gold
I agree with you... But you will get only 10 or 12% difference. Solo 2k to 3k and full team 8k to13k( I haven't tried with full team)
Bruh,, that's some beast f2p build.. The artifacts must be top class
Yipppi hehehe
Гармоническая симфония сильнее, она также дает 18% Силы атаки + 18*3=54% урона от атак за снижение/увеличение долга, долг получаешь от обязательной старта Ешки + расходует каждая атака - за 6 секунд атаки Арлекино быстро наберут и будут поддерживать нужное значение для 54%, тогда как Гладиатор = 18 Силы атаки + 35% урона от атак (но сразу), проблема в том, что сабстаты на артефактах явно будут отличаться и на Гладиаторе могут тупо оказаться более сильные характеристики, что и вовсе нивелируют эту разницу между сетами артефактов, ведь это всего лишь относительно стабильные 54% против гарантированных 35% = 19% разницы, такой процент силы атаки можно спокойно набрать в сабстатах артефактах и не заметить - разница не слишком велика.
Ты прав.Если у вас есть хорошая деталь Gladiator Like 70/240 CV... Вам не нужно начинать новую ферму Artifacts... Если нет гарантии, что вы получите хороший кусок.
@@Kizuna_ssого, вы запарились насстолько, что перевели коммент и свой ответ на него Оо
@@jabberwocky2640 это моя работа hehehe
Все зависит от того какая Арлекино у тебя: с сигной или без, с созвездием или без
fragments vs gladiator is like signature vs whitetassel on her . White tassel is good but signature makes her cracked
edit - this is not a correct shiwcase , in full 4 player party her damage increase upto 20% compared to gladiator
Team buff is different that's why Solo comparison is best I think.....
Easy win for gladiator because you can strongbox it, hopefully genshin follows on giving us the newly released artifacts like you can synthesize newly released relics in hsr. But thats high hopes to ask knowing genshin.
Only if you use Arleccino with three star spear, while things became different when you use C1 or signature weapon with Arleccino
I don't have signature weapon.. But u can watch my new video ( I used 5star weapon )
I started farming for her domain artifacts because i got a pyro one from fragment and its literally 20%+ crit damage and 10%+ crit rate
Owww it's really cool
harmony passive needs to be increase or decrease 3 times. when you use her skill and charge attack, it only counts as 1 stack and 2 more when u m1, so only the third m1 has max passive
Yap it's increase when I used her skill then 2nd attack it's decrease 2 time. So you can count 3 attack or last attack
@@Kizuna_ss Thats literally what I said
@@noglzxjc9965 Sorry, I did not read it carefully. Hehehe
New set is good to farm, cause Clorinde also will have bond of life effect and there is a rumoured debdri unit focusing on buffing burn reaction
Yap but you can also use alternative (Thundersoother Or gladiator)
@@Kizuna_ss well ofcourse, I was just saying it's not a bad domain to farm,
@@KuroTempestGamingThe truth is:- I got so much Unfinished Reverie piece when I was farming All my resins are finished.
i think the new set isnt worth it since it requires a huge amount of grinding for diminishing returns, it will be more worth it to just keep gladiator and save resin (unless youre going for clorinde which also uses BoL)
But Clorinde also can use Thundersoother(2nd option)
i’m mostly farming this set for chlorinde bcuz my glad pieces on arle r literally so good
Arlechinos one of the weakness is her dmg isn't consistent. It lowers as her BOL goes down but this new set reduces this problem a bit. So its better to farm for it and use the glad temporarily
Ohh I didn't know about this..Thanks❤
@@Kizuna_ss yep, like you said in long fights we will see the difference but in small fights the difference isn't much.
@@asif420 integrate to get the total dmg in a particular time interval. Like Bol.dt use the limits as 0 to t time.
ok now i want to farm this artifact soooo bad cause i also saw her dmg is gradually going down (i’m currently using 4 glad) when the BOL is about to “empty”.
I experimented with a Shimenawa set. Didn't have the right goblet but wow. 1 shotting nearly everything.
Shimenawa is top if you have her constellation
@@Kizuna_ss I only have her C2 R1 thought I had C3 but I got Keqing twice
@@Salem_Grimoire c2 is really good
At this point they should release a domain for wanderer and glad set
Nah.. They won't
@@Kizuna_ss typical genshin😂
@@nabinkc5355 hehehe
agreed
My gladi is beyond a piece of crap, so i need to farm this
I’m not sure what they’ve done to the rng but I’m done with farming new sets. Been farming since release and still haven’t got a single piece with double crits.
Nice showcase.. BTW what's the song in the background
Ls Theme vs Lights Theme Ultra Epic Mashup
@@Kizuna_ss oo thanks
even as f2p i still farm it if anything for her /potential future characters and well its not like i am in dire need of any other artifacts sets so my as well and useless pieces can go into strongbox
If you already build your all character.. Then Yap you can firm
yes, gladiator is much more resin friendly but her sig artifact set keeps her damage consistent no matter. but you do you tho. the domain loves me lol
Watch my this video You'll understand what is the reality ( Arlecchino artifacts comparison)
Gladiator dmg down less 29k-28K- in 4-7 hit.. But new artefak still 32k dmg for last hit.. Hmm i think new artefak set good for arlecchino to mainten dmg for consistent 👍
Yap you're right ❤❤
Alot says it's just 11% diff. cuz i got god roll gladiator set, but still the new set is better than gladiator if you are still farming artifacts
I don't think new set is better than gladiator.. I'll upload a video in 30m you'll set the difference in vape reaction....
Good video, I can't find any comparisons with the Gilded Dreams artifact set.
Yap Gladiator is her (2nd Or equal) best set.....
Pro tip: Use a Atk goblet instead of pyro, the difference is very noticeable
Yap you're right
@@Kizuna_ss my friends called me crazy till I pointed out that she already gets 40% pyro bonus from her passive plus if you have 2pc Crimson/Gladiator it’s now 55%
Yeah, instead of going to the trouble of grinding gacha a new artifact for her, it's better to use the resin for resources, unless you want gacha clorinde,, just grind a new artifact for her later.
What you say is true.If you have extra resins then you can farm her artifacts
I dont have Father, but i plan on getting her during her rerun. Im not in the mood to farm artifacts. That 11% damage is negligible, considering the tine I'd waste farming artifacts.
Also, since i don't have Emily that domain isnt artifact efficent for me. Maybe ill pursue that set once it hits the strongbox.
Don't try this domain.. bcz this domain gives so much trash artifacts
For a second I thought the music was the ost from Death Note lol
song:-
Ls Theme vs Lights Theme Ultra Epic Mashup
thanks, it help me, now can use my unused good stat gladiator 😂
Yap gladiator is really good
I am currently using 4pc MH set and I think it is better than my 4pc Gladiator set. I am currently farming her new set to see if it is any better than Gladiator or MH. If not I'll probably stick with MH.
What MH set?? No it's not better than gladiator.. She has no HP decrease ability.. Why don't you use 2p set bonus.. 2p MH and 2p others piece
@@Kizuna_ss well I did say MY gladiator set. Based on the stats on my gladiator set and the stats on my MH set, MH is in fact better for me. It also allows me to sacrifice CR to get more atk or CD.
@@Kizuna_ss also she herself doesn't have to decrease her own Hp. It activates after being attached or standing in burning grass. And her healing ability also activates it even if it's only one stack.
I love how people are comparing glad and fragments on her while I use her with 4-pcs hunter lmao, at least it works i guess
Owww owwww hunter set?? Everyone knows It works when HP increases or decreases right?
@@Kizuna_ss yeah, I get 100 cr and 200 cdmg with that. And I don't use shields so enemies are practically buffing me when they attack (or I'll use Furina) Bennett also helps with atk buff and gives her some er.
@@soep19 no one can't heal her so how???
@@Kizuna_ss I tried hunter set with Furina on her and it work wonder but you do need 130-150 ER to burst every rotation and heal yourself. The dmg does kinda fall off a bit on second rotation since you can get max BoL if you did not burst on 2nd rotation but this team hit hard enough to one cycle any boss and only struggle a little in multiple wave chamber.
You can see my Arle showcase with Furina, she is absurdly powerful but super paper so other than for show off it isn't worth it IMHO (I died a lot trying this team kekw.) My team is Father, FUrina, Ben, Xianyun with TTDS to not only swirl pyro but also heal Ben and Furina and give atk buff, she end up not falling behind C0 Kaz/Sucrose. You can get the same result with Yelan, C2 Kaz and ben but I'm broke and my kaz is C0 so yea that Furina team is my strongest Arle team.
My fav team with Arle is still Vape Zhongli+Ben with either Yelan or Xinqiu depend on how hard the enemy hit. Yelan is ideal for dmg and perfectly timed rotation while Xinqiu give significant dmg reduction so you don't ever need to worry about your shield breaking so you can face tank any attack with ease but I need 1-2 sec of down time before I can use XQ skill+Burst in rotation which isn't ideal but not a big deal. Oh and in case of AOE I use mono pyro with either Ben+Kaz+Xiangling or Ben+Kaz+Zhongli. Since my Arle is C1 her dmg is strong enough where the extra buff makes her powerful enough to ignore Xiangling unlike Diluc/Klee
all i need is a good gladiator sand and my arlecchino is complete
Same. All I have is HP with good sub stats meant for HP characters 🤣
I have a problem. I use 2 piece gladiator and 2 piece marechaussee hunter set. I’ve got jade spear on her for crit rate and excess attack. This brings my attack to 3,110, and yet my damage is nowhere near yours. Talents are 9 for charged attack and 8 for burst. Level 90. What should I do??
4p set is better than 2p set
@@Kizuna_ss Do I need crit dmg and crit rate if I’m only using charge attacks and don’t care about the burst?
@@Lunavera22 70/200 is really good
Ok thanks!
@@Lunavera22 can you update me on how she is now
Thinking I will just stick with glad because my luck has been terrible farming her set. I had absolutely terrible luck farming a decent set for Navia of her set, so im all burnt out on doing that again for 3 months...
If you have good gladiator set then, I don't think new set farming would be a good idea.
Even though i've played for about 1.5 years, i still don't have 1 good glad set lmao. Good thing i can farm the new domain and strongbox the gladiator this way lol.
Ok... Good luck...
Great showcase! Any chance for a high resistant or elite opponent for more showcase DmG clarity? Like against a local legend or Primovishap boss?
Which local legend you want????
@@Kizuna_ss could be Yseut or Rocky should do as they have million HP and are not affected by any elemental affinity by default. Yseut may also increase BoL which contributes to Arle's kit. Thank you!
Fragment had 30k+ at the end, gladiator had around 28k
Watch my new video (arlecchino artifacts comparison) you'll see total difference
I have gladiator set and literally got top 2% so i dont think i will change anytime soon. ( played since relese )
ah, u surpassed me... ;)
nice! :)
Naaah naaaah you're underground huh?????? I was really waiting for you man😥
@@Kizuna_ss XD 😅
AWWW! ;) sorry and thank you! :)
I already replied to your message btw :)
@@GoldfishOfDoom So, when are you going to start a new channel?
@@Kizuna_ss I said maybe... so let's see, if I do make it... I might not continue...
Of course the difference is not much, but that is because she couldnt even activate her passive properly. Not a fair comparisson.
Yes I did, When I used her skills, Her Bond of life was 75% So I think the full power of Fragment was activated. Maybe I could be wrong too.
i think it's around 10% different, if gladiator got 45cv then the new set must have been 40cv for equal dmg, it's 5critvalue different
Both are almost same only 160 or 180 atk difference.... If you use food buff(300atk )with same stats then Gladiator will surpass fragment
Could you also show Echoes of Offering? I spent some time trying farming those to guve infusion characters and physical something other than shimmy, and I'm wondering if the 4 piece effect of Echoes makes it a contender.
Ok I'll try.... But Gladiator is better artifacts for her(You can watch my this video-- Arlecchino artifacts comparison)
My arlecchino is doing 88 k with gladiator at level 80 with missive spear ........ so it works for me 😆
Reaction team???? Bcz missive spear only good for reaction team
@@Kizuna_ss yes !! My team is arlecchino, zhongli , yelan and bennet 😃
Can u try shimenawa on her plz 😁 u would be surprised
I already tried with Shimenawa ( This video--Arlecchino artifacts comparison)
In my opinion those who have Gladiators already that are good for arlecchino is okay. But i say Whimsy is better because it sustains damage compared to Gladiator that suddenly drops damage.
If someone don't want to farm and already have good gladiators set then it's really good for arlecchino.... But if you have arlecchino clorinde and you already build all good character then you should try for fragment set
Nice comparison, I already dive and try to see the comments, but if u don't mind, what device ur using, and can I know your genshin graphic settings please??
This is my potato device 💀 Redmi note 10s ... render resolution- highest (When I record the video) otherwise medium
Shadow- low or medium
Graphic:-High (for recording) otherwise medium
Fps-45 (recording) otherwise 30
And everything low
Thankyou, that what i need
already had a decent gladiator piece (long time player XD) so im actually good without fragment set
Yap If you have good piece you can use
new set also increase elemental and burst damage, thats the difference
But problem is (Resins) 🙁😅
54% additional dammage of set was not counted i guess. As no all hits was on active 4 pieces set bonus.
54% already activated after 3rd hit
I don t think I m gonna farm for the new set, I mean with gladiator I have like 80 crit rate and 220 crit dmg which for me is perfection.
Owww Your CV ratio is better than mine.... With this ratio use high base attack weapon Like Calamity Queller then she'll hit 45k max
do you have the jade spear for another comparison?
Today 5pm ok❤
Try using thrilling tales with sucrose with 4p viradecent and a geo with 4p geo set or 4p milith with Bennet
But solo comparison is best
I think I'm going to stick with glad I already hit like 145k on her NA so I think I'm good
Gladiator is a good artifacts for her But If you want to pull for Clorinde then you can farm new one
@@Kizuna_ss tnx
Gladiator still the best of resin efficient, cause it's been there since beta.
Yap Gladiator is better than fragment ( you can watch my this video--Arlecchino artifacts comparison) you'll see the difference
How did you Enhance the FoHW artifact set done so fast like that, dear Brother? Please give the explanation how to do Enhance susscessfully onto the Crit substat?
This is a Gacha game my friend. So, there is no trick in this. Everything depends on your luck.
The time and resin it took to farm enough usable pieces of the new set is definitely not worth doing a measly 1K more damage
Yaaap... But if you want her ult damage then her signature is really good.... For NA vape gladiators is fine no need to farm her set ( If you haven't clorinde)
Can you use Shimenawa with the other sets as a comparison. I have compared it so many times and for me shimenawa seems to be the best, I would like to know if it is the same for others.
You can watch my new video
2 pc shimenawa and 2 pc gladiator is good combo to if you don't have good 4pc set of gladiator.
4pc shimenawa is not good for arle(only problem is energy. you need to have enough energy before fight)
Nah 2 piece is crap, i tested like the other vid with shimenawa and in my actual playstyle, shimenawa is the best. I have the best substats with shimenawa, cause i farm it many times for yoimia, shogun, yelan and so on.
I dont say best, but better as my Gladiator and waaay better as two pieces.
Yeah, i already told i have better sub stats with shimenawa. I tested it many times my best Gladiator 80 k and best shimenawa 86 k per hit. Score like this video or the other with shimenawa, my shimenawa 100k more as Gladiator.
This creator show in the other vid shimenawa not the best but good too. Just look the other one, but with my substats shimenawa still best.
Can you try shimenawa next?
Shimenawa Or which artifacts????
Shimenawa is useless on her, you can only use it at her C2 or against multiple opponent so that you can activate your BOL and use normal attack right after using skill. IIRC Shime set effect only active for about 10 sec, at C0 against single target you need to use your skill then switch to do your support and that might take 5-7 sec before going back and use charge then normal attack.
as for her dmg it will be almost as good as her BIS set during the buff but once it run out it is worst than Glad. This also exclude the fact that it consume your energy making burst very difficult to do which isn't a big deal in Zhongli team but anywhere else you are screwed
No not a big deal difference in damage , but if you rich no problem,do what you want, right?
Yaaap both is similar.... You can use which one you have
~11 more but is the thing, you can just get a god tier glad while farming the other set with good em/atk and it is going to difficult to change the set
I'm gonna farm cuz I wanna see her Burst dealing big dmg too, my Ult is only lvl 6 is dealing 60k dmg
😂😂😂
anyone realize that he didn't use arle skill in the gladiator clip?
Gladiator don't need her skills to active artifacts 4p bonus.... But fragment needs bcz fragment work when her bond of life increase or decrease
I currently have her C1 with her signature weapon and she does 60k when I crit.
Oww it's so cool.... Me 49k with primordial jade ..CO
@@Kizuna_ss ok I got kinda lucky, got her (C2) around the 50 wish mark this time
@@killininstinct343 💀💀
That’s like a 2.5% improvement or 2.5% more dmg per hit
Yap fragment isn't important for arlecchino.... But fragment is really good for clorinde
Gladiator with Homa staff gives you more damage and it is much stronger.
Fragment with Signature weapon is lesser damage and it is only good for more than 3 enemies.
I prefer Gladiator with Homa because the damage is way too far than the fragment set and its signature weapon.
If you have good gladiators set then it's perfect, not need to farm fragment set unless you have extra resins... And also fragment domain gives useless pieces and 2nd artifacts set is useless too
@@Kizuna_ss I have both. Been tested both too. The disadvantage only for Glad is ult is kind a useless but dps is way too far from fragment.
I use 2p gladiator and 2p shimenawa i have 83% crit rate and 221% crit damage, do you guys consider this good? or should i get 4p glad or 4p fragment?
4p set bonus is better than 18% attack bonus So, 4p set is best
Its an alternative option, she scales on atk% so it still valid.
2 piece atk VS 4 Piece glad is about 4-5 substat difference and Glad VS Fragment dmg is only about 4-5 substat difference
Before you surpass that substat difference your Fragment set will deal about the same or less than your Glad set. So assuming you have 35 useful roll in your Glad (that's 4-5 crit/piece+2-3 atk/em and maybe a few ER. Some people might even have 40 roll set at this point), you need at least 30 roll in your Fragment set before you reach the same DPS and then you only surpass glad after you get the same substat which can take anywhere between 2-3 months or more if you are unlucky and this is farming on a domain with only one useful set and this set can only be used by one character. (took me over a year to get 35 roll set with good crit ratio for my Raiden and Xiangling).
10 substat is a lot but if your 2 piece set have close to 40 useful stat, you need that -10 substat on fragment to get the same DPS. So yea, be wise with your resin. (4-5 substat is about 10% DPS in hyper carry like her, would be less in other chara)
Gladiator much suits for me, farm harmonic really hard to get better stat 😂😂
Maybe you should try now❤️
I use Crimson Witch of flames and will get 60k to 40k without supports or food buffs
My arlecchino NA 63k to 47k with 100/109 CV.... If you don't believe me then you can watch my shorts ( how arlecchino farm cyro regisvine) 🥲
Is her Goblet PYRO or ATTK? which is better
You can watch my this video (Arlecchino atk vs Pyro goblet)
maybe player want to know raw dmg it's mean that is with pyro buff atk+25% so NA: 37,189-25%= NA ..?
Pyro buff active, When you have 4 characters in your party. Otherwise nahh
Why is your pyro dmg bonus 0? Did you put an attack piece instead?
Yes 😂😂😂
Yap Yap It's attack% hehehe
@@Kizuna_sswhich is better?atk or pyro?
@@presshan1714kazuha team (Attak) Bennett team(pyro) You can watch my other videos If you're confused
I use shimenawa with c2 Arlechinno. does insane dmg
i keep getting good artifacts on the new domain but for the green one not fragment 😢
Good piece is very rare 😞
Im new in this game and got arlec. So which one is better guys?
Gladiator is best ( watch my this comparison video-- Arlecchino artifacts comparison )
Thanks
I cant decide wether to have 267 crit dmg and 46 crit rate or 211 crit dmg and 89 crit rate on arlecchino
211/89 is best bcz she'll crit every time
46 crit rate means Out of every 10 hits, 6hit will miss.
So, You can increase atk instead of crit damage
simplify. .
8 times 211 better than 4 times 267
Jesus man what in the world is your ping?
It took two days for those dmg numbers to pop up💀
This is nothing. Sometimes it even goes above 500🥲
Do you pyro damage or elemental mastery??
Pyro is best ( don't use sands EM Or goblet EM Because you will easily get 200 EM from the artifacts substats) If not then U can use Sands EM with better CV ratio
I hit more than 100k on crimson witch of flames 4 piece
I guess than I shouldn't aim for this one
Crimson is only for reaction team... If you are running mono pyro team then It will not work.
It's 2024 and this flower still being a punchbag 😭
😅😅
Can you compare 4p shimenawa to fragment?
Watch my this video (arlecchino artifacts comparison)
Gladiator is better because there's no need for uptime
Yap you're right
How did u get a 4 piece Harmonic with relatively the same stats as an artifact that was from 1.0 ?????????
Gladiator circlet Level was 18... So, that's why
@@Kizuna_ss ahh okay that makes sense
she use food buff, pretty sure for the crit rate for consistency
Just wondering, why did you use food in the second run?
95 attak for fair comparison ❤❤❤
why my arle with 4pc gladi 170/70 i got 28k/na, and with the new artefact 165/71 i got 32k/na
Maybe BCZ of your ATK% increase ( if 100 atk increase she'll give +2k more damage)