How FaZe SOLVED the INFERNO META! | Pro CS2 Breakdown | FAZE vs. VITALITY & NA'VI

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  • Well what is this smoke (og så poper den med lyd)? during IEM Sydney we saw FaZe throw this smoke vs Vitality and NAVI almost every singe CT round. VS NAVI they threw it 50% of the time, while vs vitality they used it a staggering 75% of the time. but why is it so good?
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  • @sterben4958
    @sterben4958 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Love these breakdown videos of pro matches. It allows the community to learn some stuff

  • @bluefish808
    @bluefish808 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Great video, loved this breakdown. Might need to learn the lineups myself

  • @estebancyo
    @estebancyo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    randomly got recommended this but watched the whole vid this was cool to see. gj bro need to see more breakdowns for the playoffs this weekend

  • @margielamaadman
    @margielamaadman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro i love these kind of videos. Keep them coming boss!

  • @xlgapelsin6173
    @xlgapelsin6173 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Faze has a living supercomputer in Ropz. Bro is not only insane mechanically but prob the smartest pro player out there

    • @lurka1337
      @lurka1337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      watch him playing under karrigan in mouse... he has been amazing for a long time, karrigan is really good at letting him loose

    • @_Stargazer_.
      @_Stargazer_. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not a ropz fan .. but i have to agree to this . He is indeed a genius and he has been proving it

    • @xlgapelsin6173
      @xlgapelsin6173 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@_Stargazer_. As a G2 fan it's crazy how smart he truly is. Always finding gaps, some wack smoke linups or anything else while being a top 10 aimer and easily a top 5 movement pro. He is absolutley insane

  • @howwhatwhenwere
    @howwhatwhenwere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your vids man please keep the good quality!

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad u liked it, i will!!

  • @dthepiratesking501
    @dthepiratesking501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your video. Keep it up the good work

  • @baconrap
    @baconrap 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great videos bro keep it up 👍

  • @ThaGamingLlama
    @ThaGamingLlama 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    loving the content brother

  • @jachcegrzmocidz
    @jachcegrzmocidz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good vid as always

  • @ComboSmooth
    @ComboSmooth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    i feel like cs2 shouldve done away with random spawns, and maybe allow for movement inside a small box in the spawn area during the buy phase.

    • @shigarumo2263
      @shigarumo2263 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, technically like Valorant.. Which is one of the things I like in valorant.

    • @the1nonlyandy
      @the1nonlyandy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      whats the point of spawn lineups then? i think this aspect just makes csgo more csgo

    • @ciggyroach
      @ciggyroach 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No

    • @saturnaicrag8882
      @saturnaicrag8882 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Definitely no... One big element of Cs is learning the spawns. To know who comes faster in certain places and to take different roles. Very important in this game

    • @Gadottinho
      @Gadottinho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No

  • @rooney312css
    @rooney312css 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great video, was waiting for the smokes lineups :(

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spawn based. So it shows in the video in the first round, broky pov. If not im sorry :/

  • @josephjoseph1205
    @josephjoseph1205 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very nice video! thank you

  • @azafree7818
    @azafree7818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great analyze,man

  • @user-zu1pe1di4r
    @user-zu1pe1di4r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Removal of skybox makes the game more ct sided depending on the maps, crazy to see more creativity

    • @Leon-jx8wc
      @Leon-jx8wc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And peekers advantage makes it way more t sided

    • @MazevG
      @MazevG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Leon-jx8wcI see ur logic but I don’t think this is the case

    • @zhipengshi7966
      @zhipengshi7966 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Leon-jx8wcacting like ct’s can’t aggress or peek

    • @woom_y
      @woom_y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zhipengshi7966yeah but most standard games T peeks and pushes far more, its literslly what the entire side is built on

    • @smollbb
      @smollbb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Leon-jx8wc not on lan

  • @wraethcs2
    @wraethcs2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video here!

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big fan man

  • @Nelex5000
    @Nelex5000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    excellent video

  • @shigarumo2263
    @shigarumo2263 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, they made a smoke, I'm doing since for ever in CsGo and still doing in CS2, because I just hate this map and just play aggressively.
    So, I smoke the middle halfway and either push through like a maniac, go 2nd mid or I stay top mid and throw stuff through the smoke.

  • @bizkitLAD
    @bizkitLAD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Loving the breakdowns, wouldn’t mind seeing what you thought about Elige’s mid domination against G2 on Ancient at IEM Sydney? Might’ve been standard play but G2 couldn’t stop Complexity from taking mid it seemed.

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I saw it. Working on it

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bit are so many great videos yo make. So it will take some time to get out

  • @KazeonGaming
    @KazeonGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    twistzz jumps up on a mail box :P

  • @sauceinmyface9302
    @sauceinmyface9302 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I love these types of videos and was so jealous of Valorant having these. This style is so sick and shows just how deep the pro level thinking can go.

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Same, its the main reason i made these videos. After seeing them in valorant and seeing elmapuddy amd mahobe stop to upload csgo breakdowns

    • @mareeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @mareeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@_AGONORRIP ELMA FR

    • @michael5455
      @michael5455 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      mahone tv has always done stuff like this, although hes been gone for a while, you should check out his old stuff tho, im glad someone in the cs comm is continuing it

    • @sauceinmyface9302
      @sauceinmyface9302 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michael5455Yeah, Mahone works for, ESL now I think? He's the "hello future pros" guy, which is awesome.

  • @-crypt0
    @-crypt0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subbed !

  • @user-zu1pe1di4r
    @user-zu1pe1di4r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These breakdown video reminds me of Airen and Teets from valorant, nice to see this style in CS

  • @mrgunman200
    @mrgunman200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've used a similar smoke, but a different tactic for years on inferno

  • @ricardopukall
    @ricardopukall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video

  • @thangwss
    @thangwss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    CS with a team will always be interesting. But the reality is that you have to soloq with 2 random noobs, 1 without mic and 1 silent cheater who provokes the enemy's rage cheater on your team 😂

    • @Katt1n
      @Katt1n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or, god forbid, make some friends

    • @shigarumo2263
      @shigarumo2263 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Katt1n Which I did, but they couldn't keep up and it was just tiresom after a while carrying their asses and still losing in the end.

    • @DantHimself
      @DantHimself 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Katt1n gasp

  • @penguinpatroller
    @penguinpatroller 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    conclusiom

  • @RainerCS2
    @RainerCS2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i love how everyone is doing a video on this smoke and i made a video with this smoke like over a month ago

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahahs

  • @avertisel329
    @avertisel329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ayyy 😄

    • @avertisel329
      @avertisel329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome video

  • @joelemanueljansson
    @joelemanueljansson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Conclusiom

  • @hsinka4000
    @hsinka4000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do u have any idea why faze do'nt use this smoke against Gamer Legion? underestimate GL, or maybe not show all their tricks around this smoke?

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looked over the demo. It was 2-10 going into the CT side for faze. I just think they did not realy have the time to use it, nor the confidece to use it fof crazy plays

  • @MrHanfi18
    @MrHanfi18 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    does anyone know how to throw this smoke?

  • @WhitefoxSpace
    @WhitefoxSpace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    AWP kill at 4:49 look really weird to anyone else?

    • @ChristianPloug
      @ChristianPloug 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was looking for this comment. Why would you flick if you are blinded and haven't seen anyone coming?

    • @WhitefoxSpace
      @WhitefoxSpace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChristianPloug bro I went frame by frame and you can't really... See... It's so fast but it definitely looks like a flick right? It looks super sus in normal speed...

  • @jvvn1177
    @jvvn1177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video but please change the music ( when match was playing )

  • @Noobby
    @Noobby 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do they not nade the snoke to see what is going on them when they have info that they didnt push they can take mid control

    • @tusharsharma1299
      @tusharsharma1299 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what vitality did, but sometimes faze pushed , sometimes they held the ramp with the awp, sometimes no peek. So the unpredictability of the plays gives it the advantsge

  • @anonymertyp6665
    @anonymertyp6665 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm confused... This couldnt be the first time this smoke has been thrown in pro play. Because it's a more then a valid strat to play inferno. Does this only stick out because of the cs2 hype?

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Skybox got removed. So this fast smoke is now useful. Before it was not as fast etc

    • @qtsuneudon123
      @qtsuneudon123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in csgo because of skybox limit this smoke will need to be thrown in a different spot, delaying the timing and basically removing the ability for the aggresive CT push
      T could just run in 2nd mid and catch the early aggresive mid push, killing the strat early.

    • @keestojuusto6072
      @keestojuusto6072 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@_AGONORAlso, I think csgo smoke didn’t bloom to be wide enough for this spot. It would have left significant one ways on the sides.

  • @user-ls9yt2di5p
    @user-ls9yt2di5p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there any ways to counter this type of faze smoke? cuz in 20k premier i met a lot ppl using this and im not able to counter

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nade it to break it

    • @DantHimself
      @DantHimself 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there are not that many spots cts can hide in the smoke, a couple people spamming it should get a kill if theres anyone there

  • @RaihanSaputraa
    @RaihanSaputraa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love your videos, try to tame the sibilance/hiss on your voiceover as it's a bit distracting

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will look into it

  • @vietphongton174
    @vietphongton174 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the thing in middle is a trashbin :)

  • @lurka1337
    @lurka1337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lol did you see zywoo deal with it... destroyed them its a strat karrigan has used before in csgo, it worked to throw them off but i feel like blade should have recognised it and how to deal with it, but i wasn't there so ill shut my mouth...good breakdown otherwise

  • @337_8
    @337_8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No s1mple No win

  • @martynasdaminaitis5241
    @martynasdaminaitis5241 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait til Stewie comes back 😂

  • @Elvin.M.
    @Elvin.M. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why not just nade the smoke ?

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was thinking the same. As soon as teams does that. The smoke will not be as good anymore

  • @arttuhintsala9717
    @arttuhintsala9717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good vid! Don't know why youre showing every kill twice though

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahaha, so sometimes when talking about a round i need some more time to finish my point and then i might have the same kill twice. As well as i like to show how the round played out in real time, and why i end everyround with the footage from what i analyzed, just so people can see how fast or slow it was done.

  • @3DFiler
    @3DFiler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This wouldnt work in silver, theyll be out mid before it pops

    • @Katt1n
      @Katt1n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wdym? Your ability to throw the smoke is not affected by the skilll level of your enemy lol

  • @21DMN
    @21DMN 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think valve needs to limit the skybox un ct side because is so abuse to do that all the time

    • @MartinMlBanic
      @MartinMlBanic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they don't it would be unfair for em

  • @coooolibri
    @coooolibri 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ive done this in csgo in several years, and wondering why people rather peek down ramp instead
    of smoking middle half way. then you can sneak on the right side wall to look towards second mid.
    its like the vertigo far right plant on A site, close to the railing. love to find those things. but that is
    also what makes inferno a horrible map in the modern cs. it was already bad in csgo, compared to
    1.6 where most floors and ways were twice that wide. now in csgo we had molotovs and working
    smokes. so narrowing down every choke point was always questionable for me. definitely a map
    i avoided completely the last 9+ years of csgo. in addition to retakeability there isnt many maps
    like inferno where you always have to walk into crossfires on either bombsite. after 20 years now
    watching the map it has become stale, and there is not even new things to find out. even in cs2,
    we now think there is new things to discover, but it will fade off very quickly.

    • @bozhidardimitrov3573
      @bozhidardimitrov3573 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i agree it's such a claustrophobic and limited map and the crossfire layout also doesn't help. Other maps i feel like give more opportunities to isolate the engagements. while entering either site on inferno you are basically walking into Normandy

  • @leandrodutra329
    @leandrodutra329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so basicly they removed skyboxes and broke the game.

  • @RatedX29
    @RatedX29 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that thing is a rubbish bin

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good to know hahaha. Makes sense since its in the street. No idea why i though it was a mail box

    • @RatedX29
      @RatedX29 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean.. I get it. Barrel was wild though :p@@_AGONOR

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahahaha

  • @deep_reconYT
    @deep_reconYT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bros 9 years late in the video

    • @shinra05
      @shinra05 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this smoke literally wasnt as good in cs though?

    • @haishawang9339
      @haishawang9339 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shinra05 this smoke isn't even that good in cs2. these teams are so slow to adapt to an even older trick.
      not holding the smoke when it fades or taking 2nd mid while 1 guy waits on steps, or counter that smoke with a boost or HE grenade... mid is literally a death trap for ct because you are so exposed. Can't imagine how tier1 teams fail to adapt. Faze won't be able to abuse this much longer, probably the next team they face will counter this smoke much better.

    • @Tenterasu
      @Tenterasu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@haishawang9339 This type of smoke for fast CT aggression in middle already existed in CSGO and was used in professional matches, but it just wasn't possible to throw it from spawn, and I think it's for that very reason why it's actually a lot better in CS2 compared to CSGO. I think the only different thing terrorists can do in CS2 vs. CSGO is that you can dissipate the smoke temporarily with HE (maybe boost since the smoke height seems lower?), but who knows exactly how effective that can be since it's only temporary. Of course, teams will find a way to counter eventually, but it's definitely a tough one to deal with initially.

    • @haishawang9339
      @haishawang9339 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Tenterasu I'm genuinely surprised that teams are having a hard time dealing with it. Like you said it was already used in csgo and went out of fashion really quick because ppl realized that it's not effective at all for the CTs to waste utility on mid because they spend a bunch of utility but still cannot hold it for long. The Ts can also just take the mid fight or run down A apps when they see this smoke (assuming most teams play 2 banana and 2 mid for this to work). With the updates in cs2 even tho you can throw this smoke from spawn, a grenade that breaks the smoke can still catch the CTs wide open in mid. It's feels even easier to counter it that's why im confused why the top teams aren't countering it properly. Like i said I don't think this smoke is gonna cause trouble for teams very soon.

    • @Tenterasu
      @Tenterasu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@haishawang9339 What do you mean it went out of fashion? Faze used this set up in Csgo which is why I'm not even surprised that Faze came up with this. It's a legitimate set up, but it wasn't possible to abuse it in Csgo, so teams could only do it maybe once or twice on CT and definitely had its risks.

  • @donnythedealer9761
    @donnythedealer9761 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro I've been doing this smoke since cs2 dropped. Totally lets CTs dominate the round as long as they dont play like idiots. Smokes are way too big now lmao. I didn't know this was considered a "pro" move. YO sign me up.

  • @primedko9999
    @primedko9999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find your videos unique and very promising, but I often encounter two challenges: you speak too quickly, and when you show a clip to illustrate what you're saying, the clip is also very fast. I think the rapid appearance of the clip is a result of you speaking quickly, as the clip needs to fit within the time you're giving for the example. Just my personal feedback. I hope it helps you grow. Good luck.

  • @rogerelzenga4465
    @rogerelzenga4465 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ive been using that smoke since AGES..... but i use it to counter rush 2nd mid most of the time....

  • @7771dnight
    @7771dnight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOL, ive been throwing that smoke for weeks. Yall never go to practice mode and turn on Grenade Camera? Experiment ppl, experiment

    • @_AGONOR
      @_AGONOR  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have not seen it yet in premier pr faceit. But great to see more players using it

  • @rodrigomuller
    @rodrigomuller 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NAVI is so good without the toxicity of S1mple

  • @n9ne
    @n9ne 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nah bad smoke bad meta it's not that useful it just makes certain rounds playout like an MM game. you can throw that mid smoke by just running A you don't have to throw it at spawn. the entire right side of mid is undetected by T's you can walk down mid easily even without a smoke. they can take alt control, use nades to clear smokes etc.