Tai Chi vs Kyokushin Karate
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- Tai Chi vs Kyokushin Karate. Karate guys are with Chakuriki gym which is a kyokushin karate gym. Tai Chi guys are Chen Tai Chi practitioners.
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When the Tai Chi looks more like Kyokushin than the actual Kyokushin you know something's wrong....
Yes, what's wrong is our perception of what Chen Taichi really is...your understanding of the strong martial art roots of taichi is what is perhaps misplaced...
Agree, didn't see any tai chi
I have reason to believe that this was scripted for the Tai chi guy to win. This is broadcast on CCTV, the China Central Television (Chinese equivalent of BBC). Showing a Tai Chi practitioner defeat a Karate (Japanese Martial Art) probably meant to show the strength of the Chinese Martial Arts compared to the Japanese.
Not discrediting the art of Chen Tai Chi, of course. I would be glad to be proven wrong. My opinion is based solely on the history of China's widespread nationalist propaganda and strict control of their population's opinions.
combat tai chi is a wrestling , throwing ,striking art . very rare to find a combat style tai chi fighter like the one in this match🤔👍🏽
The taichi guy is more kyukushin than the kyukushin guy.
Nope this is tai chi.
Yeah that's tai chi
Also, do you mean that tai chi doeasnt have punches or kicks?
look up kyukushin style karate and then come back and watch this video.
@@reajulislam911 nop
The kyokushin guy comes there like it was a regular sparring session at the dojo. The "tai chi" (wearing tai chi clothes is only difference) guy comes there to prove that "tai chi" is better and doing better kyokushin then kyokushin guy. Everybody claps. Looks more political and more empasis on nationalism then sports and reality.
Yeah these demonstrations in China are usually just nationalistic propaganda. 9 times out of 10 it's staged.
That is exactly what I`m talking about. The "kyokushin" fighters look like sandbags. After what happened to Xu Xiaodong I became very skeptical about this kind of event.
The taiji person does appear to be making some use of taiji moves to my eye, Little things in the throws and takedowns he is doing looks like chen style application. But Also looking at kyokushin (which I am less familiar with) I believe these cross over readily with their takedowns.
Not sure on the Chinese media aspect but that kind of behavior doesn't surprise me.
Can say they are all clearly skilled martial artists though.
So we see, it’s the practitioners and not the style.
I would bet against kung fu 100 times out of 100. Regardless of the style. Anyone that claims to know how to fight kung fu is outright lying. The difficulty level is just out of this world. Well... they might try and impersonate it, but actually fighting for real, no way.
Мне удалось три года заниматься в школе Киокушинкай, и много лет спустя в школе тай-цзы. И поэтому скажу следующее - не важно в какой школе кто-то получил подготовку, важно то, для чего все эти способности применяются.
Тай дзи эта гимнастика,а самый лучший киокушин-это БОКС
Киокишин хорош как система,а кумитэ всегда кумитэ.
That fighter is not Kyokushin....
I agree ... can recognize a Kyokushin fighter within 5 seconds and that wasn't Kyokushin
That defiantly wasn't kyokushin
The "Tai Chi" guy, conversely, looks suspiciously like he -is- doing Kyokushin.
it was in china do you actually think they would let the japanese martial art look better than the chinese one.
The Tai chi guy is doing kyokushin moves and the kyokushin guy aint doing shit!!!
there's a lot of open tournament of Karate Kyokushin around the world, why those Tai Chi champions don't show up there? they'll be very welcome!
They just did. Here's a video. Actually, as I guess you know, Kyokushin just recently opened its tournaments to other styles. I'd guess you'll see more. of this. I hope so, at least..
GM Mas Oyama created a devastating, very exterior, hard style, rooted in impressive strength and resistance-to-hardship training. In play with the internal, "soft" art of Tai Chi, in these videos, it's beautiful to watch. Someone else on the thread called it "ballet." He was right! In the best possible way.
Much respect, Sensei o\
Fr. James, Tai Chi for Christians
Why showing up in a kyokushin tournament for no money and no prestige? I don't get it. Just go straight to Octagon and use a fairer rule. Many Kyokushin guys are still living in a fantasy-land while the sanda folks are reforming and refining everyday, regardless of their variation of the sanda style (clearly plenty of combat taichi element here). We are seeing more and more Sanda fighters in UFC and One FC and they are awesome and effective and winning.
Nope. Kyokushin is just a though guy doing kickboxing.
agree. we wait for them but they never show
@@hannychristanti4428 Bruh chill. There is. GSP was a good example and also Bas Rutten too. You also get Tenshin as well doing both fighting in Kickboxing and MMA. Overeem tried his hand at learning some as well. In a way the Kumite is probably more dangerous than MMA itself. Kyokushin has really nothing to prove. Its one of the most toughest styles out there. Try it yourself first.
I really missed the real Kyokushin kicking techniques from the Kyo guys, which was quite strange. It was strange to see the body armours as well. Kyokushin is all about delivering devastating punches and kicks and the endurance to deliver and to withstand them. If you are padded like this the whole point is missing. You don't need to worry about the fighters' wellbeing. If they are true Kyokushin fighters they will handle it. And another thing. I've practiced Kyokushin for years but I've never seen this kanji in my whole life... Might be a different branch than I used to belong to? I cannot say anything about the Thai-Chi guy however. I really don't know Thai-Chi, but the whole tournament seemed to be arranged. Like they wanted to prove Thai-Chi's superiority... Wouldn't be unheard of...
Es normal eso en los Chinos ya que se han visto desprestigiados muchas veces por lo que tienen que armar estas cosas
Taichi, traditionally, is learned after you have mastered things like karate.
You are right. Tai chi is for old person to “dance”, and no way to counteract against Kyokushin with destroying punches&kicks
@@DanielLamHN I wouldn't go that far. A real master of any kind of martial art (and I'm not talking about the clowns prancing around with bulshido techniques) is a worthy opponent for a karateka. You just need to take away all barriers and rules of a tournament and put everyone in a real life situation. No martial art is allmighty.
Tai chi was for warriors before being known for public health. The first tai chi fighter showed strong forward leg and the kyukushin specific back jumped kick too. He shows that we must take best practices from everyone too.
When a 'taiji' guy throws more spinning kicks than a Kyokushin guy, u know something is not quite right. Signs of a fake match.
They are Sanda students in Taiji school, they train them differently for competition.
El Bottoo. I've studied Sanda in China and I've never ever heard any Sanda fighter say that. They respect it, but to the average Chinese person, they think that most Wushu and Tai Chi is for show and Sanda and Boxing are for real fighting.
Anyway, that's not to crap on Tai Chi, because it can be excellent. I've experienced some high level Tai Chi first hand and it's a highly effective art when done right. Same with forms like Chin-Na which can be devastating. It's just that in general it's harder to learn and get a proficient level in Tai Chi or Chin Na, so most any Chinese person under 50 will tell you most Kung Fu is impractical outside of Sanda or Shuaijiao.
Michael Harris you're correct. I live in china and can agree with your findings.
Absolutely correct
Tai chi is learned after mastering external styles for like 10 years.
Sir If this was a 極真会(きょくしんかい) Kyokushin Kai fighter he would have the kanji on his 道着(どうぎ) Dogi or Karate Uniform. The guy who has on a Karate uniform has the kanji of 松(?)塾 writen on it (please see 01:26 on this video). Kyokushin fighters will have the kanji "極真会” Kyokushin Kai on their dogi or they will put white tape over it. They will never wear some others styles patch or kanji. Please if it is not Kyokushin then do not say it is.
Shut up, um,,please...
Every organization can make their own kanji, take a look on shinkyokushin or kyoukushinkan kanji. So the kanji on your dogi doesnt matter, espesially in Japan, where every dojo can make their kanji, but it will be still kyokushin (or other style)
The TaiChi guy looks like a Sanda fighter in a TaiChi uniform. All the techniques he's using are practiced in Sanda
One third of Sanda is Tai chi.
@@charlesbetancourt7337 no....its mostly shuai jiao
@@teovu5557 Shaolin now teaches Sanda
@@TAROTAI don't see what that has to do with taijiquan....lol
@@teovu5557It isn’t the old ladies tai chi in the park version. It’s advanced martial taijiquan.
Oh my! Loved this fights. I didnt expect taichi fighting is that kind of attacks like kicking high, back kick and sweeping. Its similar with tkd kicks. More in loved with taichi technique.
ATSUSHI SHIGEMATSU was selected for the Japan national team for masu oyama memorial cup 2011.
In addition to,He had been junior and senior high school kyokushin champion.
Then the Karate guys were paid to not to fight, coz they didn't.
Also I've been trying to find the Kung Fu...👀🤣
Irrelevant. What's the point?
@@MartinBrand-gj4tg What I wanted to say was that the Kyokushin guy who lost the Tai Chi guy in the Kyokushin rules wasn't one of those blackbelt around there but one of the best at the sport.
Es un error pensar que un estilo es mejor que otro, pues se trata de quien lo practique.
Just so everyone knows this is Chen style Tai chi. As it says in the video. Chen style is used for fighting unlike the styles only used for health people are more familiar with
Your right Chen style tai chi is one of the few tai chi branches that is actually good for fighting and defending yourself the other tai chi styles not so much but Chen style tai chi is very useful martial art style to defend yourself from other martial artist and in the streets
The Chen organisation in China also has a Sanda team;
guaranteed this guy is on it.
That's if there's any reality to this; it feels pretty staged.
Chen is not taichichuan, it's communists lie
@@guttalapidem Nope, your wrong
Sun style as well
Seeing Chinese Tai Chi winning over Japanese Karate in a Chinese TV show really surprised me!
It could be scripted tho lol
やはり太極拳をはじめとする中国拳法は強い！！しかも、もしMMAルールなら投げが決まった時点でもっと早く終わっていただろう。…しかし、日本側としては極真ごときが伝統派を差し置いて空手を代表されても困るよな。
This is Sanda, not taichi..... CHINISE PUBLICITY
Sanda is not a martial art on its own. It is a combat-effective cocktail of many Chinese arts, after they embraced reforms. Some movements like sidekick may not be taichi but many leg-catches and throwing techniques certainly are.
thats not even sanda..his body movement screams karate with sm throwing techniques from combat training...def not chen tai chi....only thing thats tai chi in him is his open palm face guard....this guy doesnt practice one style....he is like the new age mma guy been taught to actually fight and counter karate in the name of tai chi....
@@funboy8175 is Sanda 100%
TaiChi + TKD
look at the face of kyokushin fighters who's give him blackbelt they fight like white belt
Como peleador de Tai Chi, es un gran representante del Karate Kyokushin
I don't see any Kyokushin spirit in those fight.
Chinese propaganda
Notice kyokushin people holding back.
Kyokushin is defeated before they use cheat to win from me too. weak. check : buakaw vs kyokushin, yi long vs kyokushin, liu hai long vs kyokushin. karate learn how to fight and we learn how to combat and war
First of all there no video of Buakaw vs Kyokushin. YI long got his ass beaten by Buakaw in China with sanda rules. Also if you notice all fights in are in China with sanda rules. You never heard of sanda fighter go to K1 or MMA. Why points are different and rules are much gayer in Sanda.
Second, You never see sanda fighter go to Thailand fight elbow to face allowed, Guess who step up to plate Kyokushin, Cambodia, Leth wei and Loas, Philippines fighters. We have more fighters in kyokushin fighting over styles. also There not even the top fighter representing kyukoshin we got top dogs. Meanwhile sanda within china hiding living in there safe space..
New movie lmao.
Mi Horrorshow Why Sanda is gayer ? Grapling a kick is not gayer, is smart I think. Is gayer for not using elbows ?
El kiokushin tiene varias desventajas, la primera es que no golpean a la cara con el puño,la segunda es que no saben de graplin, ni de lucha, ni proyecciones. Pero eso no les kita que son muy solidos y sus golpes muy potentes
El kyokushin, me recuerda al Taekwondo de la WTF, muchos empujones con las manos
Great fights. However you can tell both sets of fighters were wearing chest/stomach protectors. Id be interesting to see how the Tai Chi guys goes against the body conditioned Kyokushin guys, without any torso protector.
Calma é uma campeonato não uma luta amistosa
Allright but why the kyokushin guys didn't give them a lots of low kicks? In a simple dojo fight you can see a lot more and a lot stronger gedan mawashies. It was painful to watch, I am in doubt the karate team really has blacbelts.
@johnny427 on top of that, the Tai chi guy was using more kyokushin techniques than the kyokushin guys
This was fun to watch. Don't care what style won here, they have a lot of energy and it was exciting
Did I just witnessed the saddest performance of kyokushin or did they have a uniform exchange. ..
I hope I'll be able to sleep on this..
IM IN SHOCK
Why are you in shock. China is well known for nationalism and trying to make anything other than Chinese look good.
@@vagabond4576 You could say that for every country.
Je suis moi aussi sous le choc de constater cela . Mais bon , après, on peut dire que c'est le sport qui gagne .
its a political tv show. You know what will happen.
I can move so slow you won't even see mee coming.
Esse cara do Tai Chi é ótimo ele usou umas quedas do Sanda que beleza Kung Fu é uma arte muito completa pro combate
No taijiquan here. This is Sanda.
ths is not kyoukusinkai
Very nice match
The tai chi master is Amazing 💚❤️❤️❤️
Conhece ele?
Taichi master would be dead if they're fighting real Kyokushin karate practitioner.
Kyokushin karate, here? I don't see!
Тайцзи БРАВО!
it's chinease comedy.
Taiji dude is 100% Sanda
Sanda fellow also has a great TKD side kick
Sanda is the competitive part of kung fu or rather wushu so if it's tai Chi and sanda
No none of them are. Just cause they're winning doesn't mean they have to be using sanda. They're using Chen style Tai chi
I didnt see any Tai Chi movement in this competition.The so-called Tai Chi guy was using other style of martial art.
Tai chi only works in movie it's a scripted move, it's not designed for combat .
@@RINAS77 totally false. I am low level in TaiJi, but trained chen style in China. I was once surrounded by 7-8 young studs trying get fun of me and asking what kind of dance I was performing. I said "braking arms dance". Then 1 of them threw a punch at me. Using the 1st move of the form, I made he screamed badly and all the others said "sorry we didn't know you were a real master". The 1st move is so gentle compared to other very powerful kicks and arm breaking gestures.
Great win and deservedly! Chen Tai Chi is fantastic!
What's this are they really the kiosin karate black belt?My background is take kwon do.
up next: salsa vs kickboxing
Foi meio injusto essa competição. Os lutadores de "Tai Chi" claramente usaram técnicas de Shuai Jiao que é o "Judo" chinês. Seria mais justo então terem lutado contra praticantes de Kudo que é a mistura de Kyokushin com Judô. Ou então que tirassem as quedas da competição. Os adeptos de kyokushin nada sabem de quedas. Pra mim isso foi muito mais Sanda/Sanshou do que Tai Chi.
Nem queria dizer nada, mas isso foi claramente orquestrado para mostrar a "superioridade" do kung-fu. Esse tipo de coisa tem ficado cada vez mais comum na china. Basta ver o incidente com o Xu Xiaodong. O governo tentou censurar ele reduziu tanto o crédito social dele que ele não pode mais pegar um trem sequer. Assim que eu vi que foi filmado na china eu entendi do que se tratava.
@@gabrielpierrebr pois é meu amigo o governo chinês não brinca em serviço kkkk. Quer alienar seus cidadãos usando um orgulho nacionalista exagerado. Isso aí que fizeram com o xiaodong foi totalitário e canalha. Mas por outro lado mesmo tendo sido arquitetado pelo governo chinês os desafiados certamente sabiam das regras e mesmo assim aceitaram. Nos filmes de kung fu já se tornou um clichê utilizar mestres japoneses de karate como vilões e mostrar o kung fu como superior. Agora o governo resolveu fazer uma demonstração real dessa "superioridade". Mas isso é bobagem , o ganhador sempre será o que tiver maior habilidade e não a Arte em si. Embora determinadas artes sob determinadas regras e circunstâncias tenham maior vantagem sobre outras. Achei a disputa injusta pq deveria ser somente uma luta em pé sem valer quedas , entretanto vale a ressalva de que os karatecas aceitaram por livre e espontânea vontade.
@@gabrielpierrebr Concordo com você
Eu não achei injusto o cara do Tai Chi tem q usar tudo o q tem mesmo e quedas mesmo botei fé nele kkk
Ta mais pra sanda, do que tai chi.
This is not real Kyokushin, Sensei Mas Oyama must be turning over in his grave. Kyokushin is the strongest karate. Kyokushing fighters are very strong like a rock, these guys look like wimps.
+BigSed176
Kyokushin fighters are strong like a rock in their limbs and bodies. They have weak chins and faces. Simply punch to the head and fight is over. Not quite sure why they train like they do but they really need to change it if they want to be respected in the fight world. They are currently respected in the martial arts world but not the actual fight world.
Shotokan karate can beat them because shotokan karate is more on speed,agility use of the mind and balance
+Xprogamer Z21
Only if the Shotokan fighter has hardened his body to a similar degree would he have even a chance. He might be faster but a fighter who does not do full body conditioning and full contact sparring is brittle and not used to the massive impacts of a real fight. This is why Muay Thai fighters are very good. They get enormous amounts of full contact hardening. You cannot expect to win fights against trained opponents in one or two strikes. Many strikes will be traded back and forth. If you cannot take those strikes and keep fighting then you will lose.
Kutulue thats why I said they need to use their mind of course they also train power to kick and punch harder,And no matter how hard the muay thai fighter is they always have there weak points like legs,penis,neck and face if those get hit it will be over so dont you dare tell me that holy shit muay thai fighters is stronger and harder than a metal
Kutulue stfu if you dont know anything about shotakans kata and poomsei bitch
Now that's the real man of Tai Chi
noticed many comments thinking tai chi guy is doing kyokushin. the first tai chi guy is using kung fu (more sanshou), just not tai chi. first guy isn't utilizing stances enough though imo.
1:52 is one example. Look at the kyokushin style punching vs kung fu style punching.
the catches and takedowns are from any school of kung fu turned into sports movements for sanshou. it's watered down to just a trip from whatever the original move could've been.
1:13 shaolin concept of occupying equal attacking points and adding an extra yourself. in this case, he engages both arms for both him and opponent, then uses northern shaolin scissor kick as the extra point.
1:39 the way he throws this kick is very Hong Kong 50s-70s era kung fu style. reminds me of Tai Shing Pek Kwar sanda style. no point in mentioning other kicks as they are all standard martial arts northern roundhouse kicks, side kicks, spinning side kicks, variations of front lift and crescent kicks, etc.
0:34 that's a common kung fu defensive arm position after striking.
1:05 after the leg sweep, he crosses over on top of him. probably trained in kung fu wrestling but isn't applicable in this fight.
the kung fu guy in the 2nd fight is pretty meh and i skipped him. he seems just typical sanshou but kinda bad.
it seems most ppl are expecting the kung fu guys to be in constant transition of moves in forms like the kung fu performances, which is simply not true. the form movements are simply compilations of moves to practice, like a notebook to check off moves to remember to practice them all. really, they don't fight waiting in a horse stance until you punch, then transition into a bow stance for the 2nd move, etc.
second, ppl also confuse that the movements in the forms is actually how the moves are used in real application, but that's also not true for several reasons. after compiling the moves to practice into a form, they tend to change them for several reasons.
(1) certain effective moves look pathetic when done to the air. when performing to impress the onlookers, you simply tweak the movements to flow with the form instead of the actual application.
(1a) certain moves end up completely different and you would not know without being told the actual move. this causes confusion as hobbyists try to replicate moves exactly as in the form.
(2) after impressing and recruiting students, all students practice the form, which they would also have incentive to hide the actual application from general students. they are not innder disciples, they can quit, they can join another school, they can be spies. the general students practice the general forms together. if they do a good job and earn trust, they can join the inner disciples and learn more.
in fact, if properly done, kung fu should look much more impressive. just recall the hours of horse stance they do. originally, it's not done by students, it's supposed to be training for an already experienced fighter who has no life, so he improves his agility, rigidity, and strength with hours of horse stance. no modern sports athlete will ever no life to this extent. just imagine a modern mma fighter, but when he steps in for a takedown, it's a bow stance with x10 force that is solid on the ground.
the mistake is modern teaching makes you sit in stances without fighting/sparring. but originally, the ppl sitting in horse stance for hours knows why they are training horse stance because they already have lots of fighting experience and they need even more of an edge.
now, some crazy kung fu practitioners have shown off horse stance by sitting in it and being unmovable, but that's mainly to show off. it's also useful to have for the wrestling aspect. originally, you sit in stances so you can be both solid and agile, not just stationary. but you can demonstrate your training by being stationary, but ppl mistake that they have to sit in a stance and not move in a real fight. they actually train in stances so their feet and legs are very strong and agile for speed , power and mobility.
so, even the first guy in this video is pretty modernized and not utilizing stances enough (imo).
Sorry dude I just started doing kyokushin I may not be good at it but I'm sure that's not kyokushin :/
Thats definitely not Tai Chi.
Paul Daluz wudang train its students sanda for sparring, never taichi ever since the law held by wushu group
Jay Son Wong Thats fine but the video sais Tai Chi
El Bottoo it's sad that people don't train to fight using their respective kungfu nowadats. the gloves aren't covering fingers where they could execute most of the moves. But no, they just stick to sanda
Well, that's just because the vast majority of fancy kungfu (and other traditional arts') techniques simply don't work against anyone who knows what they are doing.
There's a reason pretty much all full contact sparring and pretty much all street fights look like Sanda/MMA/Kickboxing/etc.
Because that's the stuff that's actually works.
Fredrik Wahlgren your mma is nothing more than the actual sanda leitai fight that Bruce Lee tried to reconstruct from scratch. HK during his time, many began cutting syllabus wanted to make things easy. He got no place to learn shortcut way in HK, so he decided to take whatever he could find in America, Philippines and Thailand then mixed them to resemble the actual leitai fight. Kungfu nowadays already cut down to nothing's left that many don't know how to apply actual kungfu moves. All because of the masters greed for fast money, to cover up their slacking laziness that their skills deteriorated and politics. It's a shame to chinese that they don't bother to restore actual kungfu. Instead American Greg Zibb has intention to restore out of tiny bits pieces he got.
Everyone acting like Tai Chi isnt Karate's Uncle
i dont want to mess with chinese kung fu masters to scared of the death sneeze.
The school of the Japanese karate masters is not Kyokushin! Please watch the video carefully. The embroidery on the chest of the karateka's uniform reads Kodo Kaikan. If it is Kyokushin Karate, it is embroidered with Kyokushinkai. Therefore, the karate practitioners featured in this video are not Kyokushinkai. Don't let people who don't know about karate styles talk about Kyokushinkai in such a way as to discredit it. There are many full-contact karateka in Japan. The strongest karate school on earth is Kyokushin Kaikan. I want you to win the world championship of Kyokushin in Japan and then tell me that you have beaten Japanese karate. China has billions of people, but the Japanese have less than a tenth of their numbers. The naive Chinese have no idea how great it is for them to fight.
there are different kyokushin organizations so its not just about the kanji but the skills and techniques that the fighters show during the fight. even if you put the best kyokushin fighters they will hardly win in this kind of competition because kyokushin doesnt use throwing techniques. im a kyokushin and muay thai practitioner thats why i know the limits or loopholes of those arts. respect to all martial arts. osu
Sir If one knows about 極真会(きょくしん) Kyokushin Kai Karate then they know that they would never wear someone else's 道着(どうぎ) Dogi or Karate uniform. IF it is Shin Kyokushin, Kyokushin Union or IKO1, IKO2 they will have Kyokushin on their dogi. Sometimes when they are at 試合 or tournaments Kyokushin fighters will put a piece of white tape over the Kyokushin kanji but you can still see Kyokushin on their 帯(おび) Obi or Karate Belt. Yes, if you have trained in Kyokushin for some time you can tell that it is Kyokushin from the 技(わざ) Waza or technique(s) they use and sometimes by the ones they do not use. おす
Any organisation from any federation of Kyokushin uses the same kanji. Please look up Xu Xiaodong (Mad Dog) and see why most of it it’s fake
Si ese pat
a pelea Taichi, y el otro karate ya fuimos !!
Good kombinasi antara taichi dan karate,salam (Jakarta indonesia
They never bring good fighters to defeat the locals.
Los estilos no son los mejores, sino quienes los representan. En este caso claramente los practicantes de Tai Chi fueron más creativos que los Kyokushin.
A qué te referís?
Creo que el taichi es demasiado débil para compararlo con el karate
Esta claro que lo que mostraron los practicantes de Tai Chi, fue mucho mejor que el Karate.
El caso es que el que se supone practicante de Tai Chi no combatió con técnicas propias de ese estilo realmente parecía más bien estilo sanda
Comparto. El grupo de karate se quedaron en mawashigeri y ta, poca creatividad.
Jet Li is trained in the Chen Tai Ji style - so have a look fellow practitioners - Respect
para los que pisamos un tatami, algún día siempre se hace, insistencia en el estilo su pureza no perder las formas,cosa que en estos vídeos no se nota mucho incluso en las posiciones de combate que asumen,parecen cinturones blancos practicando y no abesados combatientes de arte marcial😚!!!.
this whole thing is a fraud for propaganda. I did a little of tai chi, mainly muay thai and kyokushin and I can tell these tai chi guys have some muay thai kicks and a lot of sanda. I am still trying to look for kyokushin jn this vid....
hey dumbass, the majority of muay thai kicks came from kung fu
tiger style kung fu and hung gar kung fu use shin for roundhouse kick, idiot.
in first plot I see, that master of Tai Chi had a fight according to the rules of Kyokushin. what's the point?
the rest of it, tai Chi was very similar to the mix of wrestling and Taekwondo
Isnt original battle tai-chi like jiu-jitsu (hand/leg breaking or opponent throwing), etc. extension to Wu-dang quan?
In which universe it that Tai chi??
Kyukushin guy is not hitting. This is fake
Até acredito que possamos praticar o Chen Tai Chi, porém nesta apresentação vimos fundamentos doTae Kwon e do Sanda...
Nice
Eso no es "tai chi vs karate" si no "practicante de tai chi vs practicante de karate"
Es una mentira
This is not kyokushin karate. Fake
Come on guys. It is like an elementary school garden fight...
No punch in the face :(
This looks like the Kyokushin fighters where holding their kicks and punches. Like to see the Tai Chi fighters in an international full contact event.
this is b.s. i didn't see a single taiji/taichi technique in there - there's no spinning kicks or high kicks in tai chi/taiji or any kicks above the waist in the forms i see people practicing. really the martial arts is just as good as the person wielding it.
MaltLiquor45 some tai ji takedowns
that is not tai chi or Japanese karate.
more like sumo and aikido
So they put 2 kyokushin guys to fight each other and they put the best one in a Tai Chi robe. Got it.
This is the best Thai chi guy I've ever seen.
The problem is that his art is not Thaichi.
I know they paid fake Karateka’s to join the match!
Exactly
Isso é comédia!... O kiokushin karatê é um estilo de luta contato poderoso com lutadores preparados. Esse suposto lutador não é lutador. (Fake)
É fake, porque perderam,se tivessem vencido lutando dessa forma aí você diria que são bons, não importa o quanto tenham lutado mal,se vencecem era só o que importava,o karatê em uma luta com Kung Fu de verdade é injusto, quando o karatéca tiver demonstrado toda a sua técnica,o Kung Fu iria olhar pra ele e dar risada, porque nem teria começado a lutar sério,e quando começasse, iria vencer brincando, literalmente.
Karatê não tem metade da técnica do Kung Fu, tanto em quantidade quanto em qualidade,sem contar que o Kung Fu usa mais explosão,e tem mais fluidez, mais agilidade, reflexo,e bloqueio pra todo tipo de golpe, kung fu tem quantidade de socos maior que karatê,e de formas variadas, assim como nos chutes,quase 5 vezes mais,isso em cada estilo de Kung Fu.
That is not Tai Chi. That is Kyokushin Karate. Why do they lie?
Этот китаец реально чего-то стоит ))) Удар держит а бьет как кувалдой. ))) Я думаю он чем-то еще занимался, что-то типа китайский армейский рукопашный бой.
I don't know much about martial arts but how would Tai Chi defend against Kyokushin Karate? I thought Tai chi was more about spiritual balance and stuff like that, while Kyokushin Karate is more grounded in fighting technique.
look up chen style taiji quan, this style is similar to shaolin and has advanced martial arts, including iron shirt
Modern Tai Chi is just like what you said. Some orientalist hippie mambo-jambo with zero real life applications. Now traditional kung fu, on the other hand, is more like Kyokushin Karate. Or, rather, Kyokushin is like traditional kung fu, since that's where Karate came from. Traditional styles are more focused on winning actual combat, so they involve all kinds of practice that would get you jailed if you put your young students to have.
So if you get a Chen Tai Chi practitioner that goes for the traditional ways, you would find him to be about as tough as a Kyokushin Karate fighter, on average. Also, he would probably be stronger on the legs and weaker on the torso.
But you asked about being able to defend yourself with Tai Chi, its very very unlikely to see, since most Tai Chi being taught around the world is 100% not martial. Especially yang family tai chi.
This is not real right...bcause it use sports rule😁
Kyokushin fights from an open box. Round attacks that are devastating. Their defense is best against round kicks and punches. I've scored with straight yoko giri that were able hit the mark inside the guard from a side fighting stance.Otherwise, tough fighters that take their style seriously. Respect.
Hola mucho gusto es un placer saludarle mi estimado amigo
We didn't see any good Tai Chi martial art actions, but we can see Karate fight with Karate or Taekwondo fought with Karate. Specially the Tai Chi fighter's hammer kick (straight leg up and landing heel down) is 100% Taekwondo kick.
I think that Karate guy is not a japaness. I guess that he is a chinesses. That can not be a real Katatega.
Diamond Amadas you don't have to be Japanese to be good at karate.
That 'Karate guy' is using Thai movements here and there and pulling his punches to the body the whole thing is staged and FAKE AS....
Well done Thai chi
I believe you was very good
Y los golpes de puño? Está en su distancia el karateca?
i don't think that is kyokushin.
that is kyokushin, Kyoukushin also has many style like sin kyokushin etc that is one of them
Ashay Kumar hmm. i don't think so. they are too weak for black belt kyokushin. their legs, cover, technique, the way they punch, etc didn't look like kyokushin principle.
1banryukyu that's true.. i forgot the kanji in that guy uniform didn't look like kyokushin kanji
Ebri Green it is not any type of kyokushin cuz there is shin kyokushin, kyokushin, kyokushinkaikan, etc and it doesn't look like any of them
omg this is not kyokushin karate
Looks pretty good..but why no face punches?
Si ese es Taichi que karate es el otro???
tai chi?u must be kidding!
Vincent Lin no it's tai chi chuan
those r not japanese karate fighter
hahaha. not a japanese fighter but kyokushin fighter. you must accept that. they is real. if no.. you can ask your best mitsui fight in mma. kyokushin never prove his ability in world fight league. worl champion in mma and all.. i never see kyokushin beat buakaw. just show in dvd etc. no prove.
New movie actually they r not kyokushin fighter, read the freaking kanji on their Gi ffs, '光道会馆' is not kyokushin, they're a small Dojo in Japan who practicing in full-contact rule.
New movie producer of this show came to my kyokushin Dojo in China first, after they watch our training and video of our fighter fighting in kyokushin competition(won kyokushin world championship title twice), they says this show is more for amateur fighter, and just left. We laughed so hard after watch this episode, looks like they found some amateurs they want.
New movie
this is just movie and they wana show off actually stronger is tai-chi wrong way,
if that true how come they don come up to japan to fight with real kyokushin fighter in japan?
just make up story on the movie and try to say tai chi is better than kyokushin
not true
You mean your dojo of kyokushin in JAPAN
Nice wrestling moves.
What is this farce?
that is not tai chi
Yes it is tai chi chuan
fake match, just for entertainment...
During that first fight, i thought the karate fighter was Teruto Ishihara
Did this guy study Shuai Jiao? Or is that all from his Taiji studies? Either way, impressive.
Tai chi is the best
The "Tai Chi" Guy is actually using Tae Kwon Do 90% of the time. lol.
y donde qedo el taichi?
That's an interesting Tai Chi, very akin to TKD
The sparings and the reactions of the spectators look very similar to some contemporary Chinese martial arts films which also happen to contain a lot of propaganda in them. The point being made is that this whole turnament is most likely a bunch of fake nonsense. Even the techniques used by the fighters look nothing like either style.