@@LinkyedHSR Right now I'm suffering exactly from it. Stage 4 Node 1 Team: Seele, SW, Sparkle and Fu Xuan. Stage 4 Node 2 Team: Firefly E4S1, HTB E6, Ruan Mei E0S1, Gallagher E6 It's impossible to clear node 1 without Ruan Mei or Acheron, and node 2 is extremely easy with Firefly 0 cycle everything.
-Cocolia: NOOOOO!! You are supposed to defeat Gepard and all my Ice Pilars first to deplete my Toughness Bar 😭😭😭 -Silver Wolf: Implant weakness go brrrrrr 😎
I already wanted Firefly but the shillling has went way too far. Too much stalling mechanics, enemy hit like a truck on Argenti side using aoe nukes on you every other turn. Its either you break enemies fast or you get stalled and killed. MOC is still the best balanced mode so far honestly and Apocayptic Shadow is the worse balanced gamemode easily. They even screw over Clara since enemy stays broken for longer so she can't get any counters in.
@@kennethyoung7457 Nah this is def a skill issue Superbreak works for a LOT of units. Himeko, Guin, or literally even most people. HTB alone with a competent team can clear one side The other side, acheron team, dot team, another break team, follow up team, quantum... Any limited sustain can sustain both second side second phases, lynx and gal can also sustain both second side phases.
I did it with superbreak (no ruan mei) Guin, and the other side I finished it with three seperate teams: Follow up, Dot, and also did it with himeko hypercarry
@@Raydr62there are big differences between skill issues and investment issues. Assuming you have a decently invested in it then the new content is relatively easy to do (my Acheron team just auto all cocolia stage). But when you don't have a limited dps, haven't switched into break Meta, or haven't fully built HTB then Argenti one can be annoying to clear. Imo, skill issues are when you have an overly invested unit and still can't clear. When you just simply don't have a correct unit or haven't maxed your unit then it's basically investments issues.
@@danielak1666 Speaking of this I decided to run both sides - one dot and one follow up with no HTB and it worked out well enough to full clear both sides I’ll agree it’s more of an investment issue, but it’s definitely possible without break!
Truly the 7-turn cocolia special is my favourite. You wanted to deal damage? Let’s hope your dps survives the 7 straight attacks about to be unleashed on you.
It never occured to me to use Firefly in Node 1. Implanting Fire Weakness when Cocolia has none is a game changer. I had previously used Firefly in Node 2 while my Node 1 team struggled to break her fast enough and was barely able to reach the 2nd Phase. Now I've switched them around and it works much better.
@@Kiiyukofirefly is just super favored this rotation with the MOC and AS buffs Buffing BE. Ur Ruan Mei pull is gonna be more future proof than any dps u could pull. And also u can’t take people’s opinions without seeing what ur account actually needs.
You'll be singing a different tune come next patch. All the content in the game rn is super tailored towards firefly to make people pull. Ruan Mei will stay top 1 support for a long time, firefly will fall off the moment the content isn't favorable. Boothill too, break dps's are volatile, either they're really good or god awful depending on the enemy, and they're super dependent on matching weakness types, unlike a lot of standard crit and dot dps
Tbh i think tingyun and guinaifen might be best one yet except ruan mei Tingyun with her attack buff can give a maximum 60% break effect to ff and if you have tingyun e1 she can also give you a 20% spd boost Guinaifen makes breaking easier, Also inflicts a debuff that makes enemies vurnerable to dmg similar to def shred But regardless as long as you have hmc built, Your midfly should be clearing everything easy
I went stage 4 with e6 qingque mono quantum 1st half (fx, sw, sparkle, qq) and it worked out just fine, I kept pulling silver wolf with hanabi until cocolia was broken, then used maybe a couple enhanced basics to finish her, for 2nd half I barely 3 starred with clara, pela, robin, huohuo (that mf is a staller fr and maybe gallagher wouldve worked better), then tried firefly and got more than 7k points total
They make an ABSURD difference haha, like my ff with a not even remotely properly built hmc and just full piece firefly…..hitting well over 400k no sweat at all
This is quite hard if you don't build characters who don't can break well but still this new mode is pretty fun too 😊
And many more rewards
Yeah, without ruan mei stage 4 first half is insanely hard
I can still clear the last level with only 2 stars (for now) amidst not having break characters it's doable
@@LinkyedHSR Right now I'm suffering exactly from it.
Stage 4 Node 1 Team: Seele, SW, Sparkle and Fu Xuan.
Stage 4 Node 2 Team: Firefly E4S1, HTB E6, Ruan Mei E0S1, Gallagher E6
It's impossible to clear node 1 without Ruan Mei or Acheron, and node 2 is extremely easy with Firefly 0 cycle everything.
@@sekiro7645 i hope e3 ff can 0 cycle LOL.
Maybe get seele dupes
-Cocolia: NOOOOO!! You are supposed to defeat Gepard and all my Ice Pilars first to deplete my Toughness Bar 😭😭😭
-Silver Wolf: Implant weakness go brrrrrr 😎
😂😂
The update has been up for like 3 hours😭
Crazy that you were able to do this without even having proper set pieces
Nice!
Thanks! 💖 I started to farm relics again so they will be better (i hope so 😖)
If ur missing silver wolf, ruan mei or boothill/firefly, this gamemode is borderline impossible
I already wanted Firefly but the shillling has went way too far. Too much stalling mechanics, enemy hit like a truck on Argenti side using aoe nukes on you every other turn. Its either you break enemies fast or you get stalled and killed. MOC is still the best balanced mode so far honestly and Apocayptic Shadow is the worse balanced gamemode easily. They even screw over Clara since enemy stays broken for longer so she can't get any counters in.
@@kennethyoung7457 Nah this is def a skill issue
Superbreak works for a LOT of units. Himeko, Guin, or literally even most people. HTB alone with a competent team can clear one side
The other side, acheron team, dot team, another break team, follow up team, quantum... Any limited sustain can sustain both second side second phases, lynx and gal can also sustain both second side phases.
I did it with superbreak (no ruan mei) Guin, and the other side I finished it with three seperate teams: Follow up, Dot, and also did it with himeko hypercarry
@@Raydr62there are big differences between skill issues and investment issues. Assuming you have a decently invested in it then the new content is relatively easy to do (my Acheron team just auto all cocolia stage). But when you don't have a limited dps, haven't switched into break Meta, or haven't fully built HTB then Argenti one can be annoying to clear.
Imo, skill issues are when you have an overly invested unit and still can't clear. When you just simply don't have a correct unit or haven't maxed your unit then it's basically investments issues.
@@danielak1666 Speaking of this I decided to run both sides - one dot and one follow up with no HTB and it worked out well enough to full clear both sides
I’ll agree it’s more of an investment issue, but it’s definitely possible without break!
Yeah I’m not entirely sure what I am gonna do about a second team in here, maybe dotcheron team? I have no effing clue
I think dotcheron can work well, a lot of AOE to kill the minion and a good damage in single target
Truly the 7-turn cocolia special is my favourite. You wanted to deal damage? Let’s hope your dps survives the 7 straight attacks about to be unleashed on you.
First time that i played and saw her smashing my team i was like: "😑 I want to play too, let me play my turns pls"
I clear this with FF first and Jingliu, although it was very close since Argenti is being a menace.
I didn't try Jingliu yet, i'll test a team with her to look how she work in this game mode
It never occured to me to use Firefly in Node 1. Implanting Fire Weakness when Cocolia has none is a game changer. I had previously used Firefly in Node 2 while my Node 1 team struggled to break her fast enough and was barely able to reach the 2nd Phase. Now I've switched them around and it works much better.
Bro was so quick
E1 sparkle is crazy buff bruh
Finally a mono quantum team without fx , os lynx is good with this team right?
When you dont have fuxuan then lynx is a good one for the team, maybe with more Eidolons she can do better butt mine is E2 since last year :(
Bro this is literally my dream team expect lynx with Fu Xuan
Damn seele almost not crit at all when using skill
My seele really hates crit, one day i will build her with 100% crit rate
I regret pulling ruan mei instead of firefly first and listening to all of the people screaming that she’s better value
ESP cause she’s defo one of if not my fave char personality vise :,)
@@Kiiyukofirefly is just super favored this rotation with the MOC and AS buffs Buffing BE. Ur Ruan Mei pull is gonna be more future proof than any dps u could pull. And also u can’t take people’s opinions without seeing what ur account actually needs.
You'll be singing a different tune come next patch. All the content in the game rn is super tailored towards firefly to make people pull. Ruan Mei will stay top 1 support for a long time, firefly will fall off the moment the content isn't favorable. Boothill too, break dps's are volatile, either they're really good or god awful depending on the enemy, and they're super dependent on matching weakness types, unlike a lot of standard crit and dot dps
@@spoofy5207 next patch characters are also both fire and physical tho
@spoofy5207 firefly doesn't need to match weakness though....she's gonna be meta for a long while because she forces those breaks.
I don't have ruan mei who is better guannefein,pela,asta,bronya in Firefly team😢
Tbh i think tingyun and guinaifen might be best one yet except ruan mei
Tingyun with her attack buff can give a maximum 60% break effect to ff and if you have tingyun e1 she can also give you a 20% spd boost
Guinaifen makes breaking easier, Also inflicts a debuff that makes enemies vurnerable to dmg similar to def shred
But regardless as long as you have hmc built, Your midfly should be clearing everything easy
Bronya is too sp hungry, And asta is just not as good as the ones i mentioned tbh
@@pomi2031 thanks I have e6 tingyun
How do you crit with seele, i have E2 seele and base 75 CR (90 with E1) and she still miss on ult
Everything is 50/50 if it under 100%💃💃💃
I restart for better rng, the crit hit with seele ult is one of most frustrating things of this game, one ult that she dont crit and i want to die
i think e1 sparkle is allowing u kill before gepard ult 40% atk is crazy e1
Yeah, her E1 helps a lot to kill cocolia quickly, fortunately my unique limited char thar has a eidolon
Do you think its possible to clear stage 4 with the Mono Quajntum Seele team ?
Maybe with fu xuan, but with lynx i think it's too hard, cocolia hit like a truck in stage 4
@LinkyedHSR agreed, I spent 2 hours trying and couldn't make it work lol, lynx just can't keep up 😭
How did ur Seele hit that dmg?.?.?
When the boss are in weakness break state she will recieve a lot more damage than usual (it work like that in this game mode)
The lag is relatable
Sometimes my game just don't want to run perfectly 🙃
I went stage 4 with e6 qingque mono quantum 1st half (fx, sw, sparkle, qq) and it worked out just fine, I kept pulling silver wolf with hanabi until cocolia was broken, then used maybe a couple enhanced basics to finish her, for 2nd half I barely 3 starred with clara, pela, robin, huohuo (that mf is a staller fr and maybe gallagher wouldve worked better), then tried firefly and got more than 7k points total
I need one in the 4º floor with monocuantum
Too hard without fu xuan, my lynx can't sustain the cocolia hitting 90 times in sequence
@@LinkyedHSR yeah, im fact I do It full stars with Fu Xuan (mono cuantum) but I hace to retry a lot of times because the Damage IS insane
wow i didnt know relic sets arent that kind of a big deal
They make an ABSURD difference haha, like my ff with a not even remotely properly built hmc and just full piece firefly…..hitting well over 400k no sweat at all
Still no ruan mei?
My pulls for her was really unlucky
I'm using Xuyei in place of sw
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Why that lightcone for gui
Just for defense reduction of the enemies, and my 5 stars from herta shop is on S1 so i don't use it a lot
bro refused to use set bonus
This is what happens when your luck can't let you get one full set with decent substat 😂
lol i finish this also with the same team comp nice