yeah I guess Melo's last claim to personal accolade glory was that he was arguably the best player in franchise history for a given franchise (ignoring the fact that franchise has/had possibly the shallowest pool of historical HOF level NBA talent of any franchise). And now he doesn't have that either. Lin stole his thunder with the Knicks and Jokic now has claimed it from the Nuggets. Hey, here's a stretch: maybe Melo should just be happy for his fellow basketball alums.
Melo has been delusional his whole career, seriously. - He was delusional during his time in Denver when Chauncey Billups said that the team would win but Melo would be pissed and sour if he only scored 15-25 points, but would be hyped and trying to get people spirits up if the team lost but he got 30-40. - He was delusional that Denver would retire his number when he forced his way out before his contract was even up - He was delusional that Denver was even thinking about him when they gave him the #15. Denver gave a player #15 before Jokic came along, and then Jokic, a second round pick no one expected anything of, got #15. Didn't hear a damn word out of Melo until Jokic showed he's "him". Now he's in his feelings. - He was delusional in NY when Linsanity was going off, the team was winning, and was publicly pissed off about it because no one was talking about him (melo). - He was delusional about how good he still was after that one year in OKC, which was why he couldn't get back in the league for a couple seasons, and then was out completely after that. Delusion has been a longtime friend of Melo
Jeremy Lin had 1 season and 1/4 season as a good player. He was a below average point guard for 7 seasons. But some people think he was better than Carmelo Anthony that was a very good player for over 10 seasons. Carmelo is a top 5% all time scorer. Jeremy Lin is a Bottom 10% all time scorer.
A mistake on his part, I'm sure he knows before he popped off, but still, Melo abandoned the franchise when they needed him, and Jokic was the one who delivered them a championship and that's that
Remember when Melo was disrespecting Giannis as a rookie and look what Giannis did went on to do what Melo couldn't do. League MVP, Finals MVP, and NBA Title with a small market team he didn't have to go to a big market team to win.
I will give Carmelo his props. His first year, he should've gotten ROTY. His numbers were overall better than LeBron, except for scoring. After that? No. He wasn't competitive. He became like Ben Simmons.
Honestly, I am glad that Melo came out and revealed himself to the world that he is a douche. Players like Stoudemire said that Melo ruined Lin's career out of jealousy. This clown coming out like this proves that that was in fact the case.
@@joweydelanota7421naturally, he is being compared to his nba peers, not random basketball players all over the world. isn’t it idiotic to compare him to someone who plays in the local ymca? smh
I can say, as a lifelong Nuggets fan who grew up in Colorado, that melo broke our hearts, and we found our savior in Joker and he delivered in ways even before he won a championship that would pale Carmelo Anthony’s résumé to the city and the fans
Jokic (along with his talented team) brought the first championship to the city. That's literally the only argument to be made. You don't even have to mention anything else. Melo turned his back on Denver, why tf would they hold him in higher esteem than the guy who began his NBA career there, stayed loyal AND brought them their first chip? Ridiculous.
Basically a case of what have you done for me and Melo hasn't done anything for Denver. The tradition of retiring numbers should only be honoured for exceptional achievements. Melo falls short of that, as is the case with the entirety of his career.
@@chancellor3122i agree melo is in the wrong and is a bad take. But if you look at what melo did with and for denver in his first like 8 or 9 seasons its enough to have a jersery retired. Scored and played well right from rookie year, like 7 straight playoff runs and over 50 wins each season i recall and i think he got to 1 conference final i think? Could be wrong and farthest was a second round exit but, he just cant see that his own actions and choices have made anything he did not matter to the nuggets. Forced his way out and got petty if he didnt drop big numbers or anyone got praise but him. Sad to see such a good scorer let ego ruin his game and legacy. Kd is doing the same thing too and its lame to see.
@@derpjenkins1001 I must admit I was a fan. He was imo the most satisfying speciment esthetically. If I could choose anyone's shooting mechanics I would take his. But as I said, to have your number retired, you have to do more.
@@chancellor3122 i feel its more of how he did all of it. I think melo technically had done enough as i said to get his number retired but he 1000 percent fucked himself of that ever happening when he forced his way out being petty. So i dont think he HAD to do more for himself but hes crazy to be shcoked denver and mad at jokic for the number being worn still lol. But yes his quick release and mechanics are insane. His little jab step to going up for his shot is a master at work. Miss those baby blue jerseys they wore all the time too lol.
@derpjenkins1001 Melo wasn't the only player on the team. He wasn't ever MVP. KD has what, two Rings? You can argue that Steph and Klay got him those rings, but Melo has never been the difference maker on Denver. He wasn't like a Harden or Westbrook where he took over games. Even when he was playing with Lin on the Knicks he couldn't make it happen. Melo's biggest fan is Melo. He doesn't deserve a jersey retirement simply because they were a B-Tier team in the anemic Western Conference. He never made the people around him better, either. That's what great players do. Stop praising him like he's Jimmy Butler.
He didn't just ask, he demanded it. And it forced the Knicks to trade all their depth to get the deal done. He could have just finished the season then signed with NY in the off season, keeping their depth.
Man, the ego on these guys is just too much to take. No, Jokić did not pay homage to anyone. I don't think he knew what any NBA player wore on his back, outside maybe Jordan. He was simply asking for a number he wore in Serbia. No more, no less.
Yeah, and the people that try to project Jokic's final career stats (so they can estimate his overall legacy) are wasting their time. Jokic will be one of those players they talk about who retired "too soon". He'll want to spend more time with family or just move on, and he couldn't care less if he surpasses someone else's legacy. That guy is humble and has class.
@@user-vw1vf5cw7dVlade is my personal favorite player of all time. Jokić certainly knew what number he wore, but he apparently doesn't dwell in those things. He just doesn't't care. And Carmelo Anthony wasn't that iconic of a star for people to remember, or care about his number. That honor goes to the selected few, a group to which he doesn't belong.
Imagine being Nikola Jokic and getting all these hate and slander while you just casually win your way into MVPs, breaking records and winning a championship to boot. It’s great that he has this stoic and yet funny demeanor in him that endear him to fans around the world even if some of these Americans are hating on him.
No he didn't. He said that even if that was the case he still feels like it's disrespectful of Nuggets management to let people play in his old number. He didn't say a single negative thing about Jokic in any of the clips shown in this video.
I don't think race is even a factor with him. It's just an ego thing IMO. And I honestly don't think he actually believes what he says. Jokic have a ring, FMVP and 2 MVPs as of now. (First ever championship for the Nuggets) I believe he is somewhere top 10 in triple doubles for all-time. Compared to that Melo has no ground to say Jokic "stole" the number. But IMO the entire question is BS. Melo didn't have no. 15 retired as he didn't do enough to warrant that. Maybe if he remained with the Nuggets for his career, he could expect it without any of the big awards...
@@chuifongtam4703 Actually, two Asians stole Melo's thunder; Jeremy Lin, and the other one who actually wore #15 for the Knicks, and was honored by them. That Player was named Wat Misaka, the first Non White player drafted into the BAA, which would become the NBA.
RIP to Dejan Milojević, without him we would have never seen Jokic in the NBA and he would have never reached his hall of fame potential without him and we very much appreciate for what he did with us and the superstar he introduced to the league. 😰😨😰😰
Jokic is 28 and led the Nuggets to their first championship. The dude hates to practice and probably doesn't even like basketball or cares much for winning -- yet he's without a doubt the most technically skilled Center of all time. He shoots like a guard, got some crazy af post spins, and can throw dimes like Jason Kidd. Jokic is a walking triple-double threat -- this season he's going 25ppg, 12reb, and 9.1ast. This man is a crazy player. Melo hasn't done anything except make the All-Star games, but instead of congratulating Jokic he's clearly envious of his success and talent.
Wtf?!? Dude won the city a chip. Ofc Denver loves Jokic so much and I don't wanna hear any racism excuses. Dude got the job done and it's probably not just a one and done thing. The dude can still win them some more.
@@imunmirewhat are you talking about everybody gives Jokic his credit but melo is right tho I’m not saying melo is better than jokic kuz he’s not but melo did come in and made Denver relevant again they should of gave jokic a different number kuz melo do deserve to get his jersey retired in Denver
its so funny how Jokic is constantly in the middle of drama despite never making any statements surrounding it. Everyone is just fuming mad while Jokic is like smelling flowers and petting horses. funniest shit ever.
@@ShloppyShmeat of course it does. white Americans are born with an original sin. There is constant atonement. Jokic wasn’t born into a system of “white supremacy” so he doesn’t have to deal with the same issues.
I love how Jokic is so humble and almost, in a way, couldn’t care less about basketball because he loves his horses. While grown men talk about frivolous things like jersey numbers.
The craziest thing is that Melo is kinda implying the Denver organization knew in advance that the Joker was gonna be great enough to erase Melo's legacy which is ludicrous to say the least 😂
What?! Melo didn't even care about that Jersey Number when Jokic first came to Denver...He also didn't even care when Jokic won his 2 MVPs & carried the Nuggets to multiple playoff runs...He only cared now coz he was jealous of Jokic winning a ring which he can't do before. And he was also jealous of Linsanity's Hype many years ago.
Didn't care went Anthony Randolph was using Didn't care before wishing all his branding to "StayMe7o". A player who rebranded himself and switching everything to #7 caring about #15 NOW.
Totally. People won't remember him that much, and it's not clever for him to ternish his legacy by comments like that. Because in 50 years player will still talk about Jokic and not have a clue about who Melo was unless you're a NBA nerd, like knowing who was Nate Archibald today.
@@aedaed3605 he's not bitter. He played in a more competitive era. The NBA now doesn't even allow defense or physicality. And now is when Europeans "dominate".
I am truly surprised to hear Carmelo make these statements. He was much loved in Denver- really one of the nicest guys to ever play in the NBA. Even when he left, most Nuggets fans understood this was just a kid who wanted to realize his lifelong dream of playing for the Knicks, and wished him well. But retire his jersey? Are you kidding? Something has gone wrong with him and it makes me sad to see him bitter/delusional about a career that was pretty damn good.
@@markhomer2524Carmelo was a bum. The only skill he developed was his shooting. He was naturally gifted to do many things but didnt improve much. Rebounding, defense, passing, teamwork - these skills were never developed. He relied on his raw talent and in the end he was just a shooter. Not even one of the all time greats, just a really good shooter.
The entitlement is strong with this one. If you haven't led your team to at least one championship, you leave the fate of your jersey in the hands of the organization. And if this was truly an egregious offense, Carmelo wouldn't even need to say anything. The fans would have raised such an uproar, the organization would have backed off. Instead, no one noticed until this interview.
C'mon, be serious. People obviously knew #15 was Melo's number. But as he said, he left that door open when he left Denver (whether he wanted out is irrelevant because they obviously ended on bad terms).
@@atlien1988 Then why did he change his number to 7 when he went to the Knicks? Why did they give 15 to Anthony Randolph after Carmelo? You do know that 15 was Jokic's number in Serbia, right? Or did you just get on your keyboard with half your brain fried off by kitchen meth and think that you were smart?
@atlien1988 Bro I been watching since 1988 and I didn't know it. No one I know ever talked about 15 being Melo's number. 23 we know. 32 we know. 33 we know. 8/24 we know. 15?? Nope.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Are you serious??? Played 19 Seasons.....GOLD MEDALS!!?!?!?!?! WTF!! So simply doing what you're paid to do is now the criteria for getting a jersey retired??? Then I guess Vince Carter needs his Jersey retired in all the cities he played also. F'n 19 seasons...LOL. GTFOH!
In Europe we wear numbers from 4 to 15 (sometimes 16 as a reserve), and they are by size. So usually a lot of C and PF get to wear number 14 and 15, while wings get to have like 7 and 9, and small guards 4 or 5. It's not always exactly by size of course in pro ball you get to have them made better, but it's a tradition. So Jokic wearing 15 is very logical for him
If jokic somehow turned a Ben Simmons and forced his way into no longer playing... Nah. Melos basketball resume is much deeper than his. That's not gonna happen but still lmao
@@dannyhernandez265 so bill Walton, igoudala, and chauncey had a better basketball career than Karl Malone, Steve Nash, Allen Iverson, Charles Barkley?
@@dannyhernandez265 melo is top ten all time in points and either number one or two in NBA Olympic points. That cannot just be brushed aside as a body of work. Will joker be above him all time in say four years? Most likely. Has anyone not on a three peat dynasty put together three years better than Melos entire career? Absolutely not
Jokic was wearing 15 since high school because he was the biggest kid and wore the biggest number which went to 15. This is why he wears 15. Carmelo needs to grow up and stop with the stupidity..
So he waits till after Jokic gets a ring and ascends into the leagues best player to complain about the jersey number. But Denver are the ones being petty?🤨
Another reason is Jokic's conduct off the court. He's very quick to praise other NBA players and offer words of encouragement to players who want them from him (Alperen Sengun in particular, because he idolizes Jokic). Whether his team beats the Rockets or not, he immediately walks over to Sengun after the game has ended and tells him "Great job, Alperen, I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work." and means every word. Jokic has praised Wembanyama, telling reporters that he will "change the game of basketball." He has also praised SGA, telling reporters that he's a "serious problem for the league." Jokic also apparently mentors Sengun and gives him advice on how to play better, despite the fact that he plays for a different team. He might be the only player in the league that would do something like that. Can you imagine Embiid, Giannis, SGA or Luka doing something like that? I can't. These are just three examples of the kind of person Jokic is, and the many intangibles he brings to the NBA.
As a Knicks fan I wish Denver was his life long team, and he accomplished more there than he did, instead he came to the Knicks and dragged the franchise down for basically a decade, while fans blindly believe he somehow elevated it and that team that got embarrassed in the playoffs a couple times was some how something to be looked back on fondly. Julius Randel and Jalen Brunson are going to completely make him disappear from New York history too.
He left us. Why would we have the “respect” for him? He and A.I were almost the same in Denver. We aren’t remembering A.I as a nugget great. Jokic has been 15 for all his life damn near. Now he is a great big man and brought us a chip. Yeah this ain’t a contest
@@melvinhhcp3615 he was in Denver at one point fam and he and melon were damn near the same person. That’s my point melo was just here longer. And when I say same person I mean going out to clubs not working hard just thinking their god given ability would take them all the way.
@@melvinhhcp3615no need to be, as long as he gives an effort and compensates with his passing and scoring skills. Melo never showed any implication on one side of the court and was a black hole on the other, great scorer this said.
people say “jokic has accomplished so much already” not realizing that jokic has been in denver longer than carmelo anthony ever was. 9 seasons to 8 this year. jokic will go down as denver’s greatest ever 15 also, that comment carmelo made about “paying homage” is insane. jokic is a better player than you ever were carmelo as of 4 years ago to now. to what does he owe you homage? what a ridiculous statement
Melo’s tryna re-write history. I wouldn’t retire his jersey in DEN. He burned that franchise down, and now he’s tryna big-dog the history books and Magic erase that shit. Melo was the reason he had no help in NY.
@@melvinhhcp3615 ?? Carmelo Anthony forced his way to NY 2/2/2011. The Knicks introduced Jackson as the president of basketball ops 3/18/2014. He was brought in to clean house after 3 year of BS. Melo didn’t buy in to any philosophy that didn’t suit his preference, same issue Karl had with him in DEN. Billups confirmed as well. Dolan meddled and bid against himself in the Melo trade request. Melo signed his deal in 06 (80M) in DEN, got beat in 07-10, saw the Heat form, the infamous wedding toast occurred, & Melo burned the franchise down. The talk around that trade was that DEN was going to erase Melo. he didn't care, it was all "Stay Me7o." Now he's mad Joker's turning out to be an all-time great who brought the chip to DEN. Melo's attempting to change the narrative from the reality of his childish behavior/decision to this farcical recount of "oh its eff me" real weanie behavior
And Melo didn't even have the smarts to comprehend the triangle offense completely wasting getting Phil in the first place. Dude is a phenomenal player for sure but I get the feeling he'd have a more successful career and won chips if he was the primary scorer and had a smart and tough leader and floor general by his side to offset his weaknesses.
@@imfinishedgrinding638If Phil wantef to implement the Triangle, he should have coached the team himself, instead of trying to quarterback from the front office via that incompetent fraud Mike D'Antoni!
@@imfinishedgrinding638no that roster was awful had nothing to do with Melo not knowing the triangle😂the system was dated and the team was not constructed for it at all. Phil made like 1 good decision in NY y’all are just lying😂
Melo is delusional. 1. Jokic Wore 15 all his career before joining the Nuggets including when he played for Serbia long before joining the NBA. 2. Melo's Nuggets in all 8 seasons he played for them never got past the first round except once. His best seasonal record with the Nuggets was 54 wins which is sub standard to say the least for someone who wants his jersey retired. His playoff record is 2 wins and 8 defeats. (20% winrate) He was 3 times all star during his tenure with Denver 3 times out of 8 seasons. 3. Nobody protested that his number wasnt reitred. There was no outcry by the fans, no public pressure. I dont think they even thought ever about returing his jersey let alone deciding to go against such proposition. I dont think it was ever even brought up. Some people do have inflated sense of themselves and their achievements. It is good for competition maybe but its best left on the court.
To be fair to Anthony, he didn't trash Jokic, he was trashing Nuggets' ownership and management. Still, it's hilarious and pathetic to think Jokic took #15 to pay homage to him....a guy that is 100% team player, that would rather assist than score paying homage to a ballhog bricklayer who was only out for himself.
I think you're right about Melo being mad at ownership rather than at Jokic and I can see management being petty like that. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Jokic just kept playing with 15 because it's a traditional center number in Europe and he didn't think that much about it to be honest. I can't imagine Jokic caring that much about what a player from 10 years ago was doing on an other continent. I'm pretty sure he didn't watch Nuggets games growing up in Serbia. Or any NBA at all for that matter. I don't think it was meant as disrespect at all, he just doesn't register this kind of things at all. At the end of the day, melo's jersey belongs up on the rafters in madison square garden and I think everyone agrees with that.
This is sad to me. There's more to life than petty self-aggrandizement. This kind of resentment is so psychologically destructive. Melo needs to have gratitude that he could do what he loved for a living, had millions of adoring fans and has his health and financial security. Melo has had it all, except for a mentor to teach him how to be happy.
These player podcasts are just the reverse of the shows they whine about. The fact the co-host didn't even bother to try to question Carmelo's assertions is crazy.
yo Melo…sorry to tell you but Jokic didn’t steal anything; he was drafted to a team, took a number that was available (your gripe should be with management) and actually led them to a title; how many chips did you bring to Denver?
I don’t like Melo, but you should be fair to him and listen to what he actually said on that podcast. His gripe IS explicitly with management. You’ll note that he is very careful not to throw shade at Jokic-he only suggests that the TEAM offered jokic the number in an attempt to erase Melo’s history. Now keep in mind even that statement by him is inane, but still. He’s not coming at Joker, he’s coming at the team.
You never heard a peep from this clown when 15 was worn by someone before Jokic and when Jokic was drafted as a 2nd rd pick and nobody talked about him. Stop giving him leeway with his behavior on display and call him out that he's pouting like a baby now since he knows he'll never get his number retired by the city due to the fact that he bailed out on them in the first place.
@@roghider3552 oh come on, read my message fully too. I don’t like Melo. He’s obviously on a huge ego trip just as he’s always been, and everything he’s spouting on about is inane drivel. He doesn’t deserve his jersey retired, even if Joker had never taken that number and done greater things with it. I am *not* defending anything he said, which is all dumb and stupid. I AM defending him from claims that he said things that he never actually did say. He *didn’t* come after Joker like OP said. He went after management. If you’re gonna call someone out for being stupid (like we are doing to Melo), don’t be stupid yourself by getting what they said wrong.
@@Billymanaco Dude no one hate melo because they thought he threw shade on joker. Everyone hate the fact that Melo result and record or number are way lower but being cry baby about it. It has nothing to do with Joker explicitly, it just no one give a shit about him talking about integrity when he the one who Demanded transfer.
The irony of the "Carmelo's" sensitivity is that the Jokic has a life outside basketball and seemingly is the kind of guy who could care less what his number is.......Jokic will probably forget about basketball after his future retirement and concentrate on his family and his horses.
Jokic gives the impression that the only reason that he became a professional basketball player is that he's too big and heavy to be a successful professional jockey
It’s simple Carmelo Anthony is jealous & an envious person of others success. It’s probably eating up at him that “his number” is on a guy that’s the complete opposite of him in terms of personality & success. While he was losing to the Elton brand led clippers and getting destroyed by the spurs Jokic was beating them in his first playoff runs and then went on to win a chip & two mvps. I don’t hate Melo as a nuggets fan as much as others but dude needs to face the fact that he holds a lot of the responsibility as to why he is hated in Denver and why the organization doesn’t celebrate him like other guys in the team’s history. You didn’t leave because the nuggets were “going into a rebuild” you left because you wanted to be a Knick and be remembered as one. But now that your career didn’t go the way you thought it would in NY & the majority of your best years was in Denver nowwww you want the love & for people to “pay homage” 😂
2 things Melo had good numbers in Denver, but no championship & no MVP. Also the way the host, spoke about Jokic taking the piss out of how he talks disrespect to non US players does my head in.
He cries disrespect yet he clearly has not taken a second to consider Jokic's journey to the NBA or the possibility that he wore 15 before. Melo was a great scorer who ultimately did nothing,
I can understand the part where Melo said it was petty if they forced #15 onto Jokic. I can also understand where he says they erased his legacy to the next generation, intentionally or not, the kids don’t know about Denver Melo, and they never will unless they research it themselves. But where Melo is wrong is that he forced his way out of Denver, he could’ve finished the season and left of his own volition, but he didn’t he forced his way out in a midseason trade that also screwed the Knicks cap space. Also nobody expected Jokic to surpass Melo in accomplishments when they drafted him. But fact of the matter is Jokic became a much better player than Melo, and Melo has to live with that. His ill-advised decisions are coming back to bite him. Also the way his career ended, I could understand why he’s bitter about it. No retirement celebration or 1-day contract to honor his legacy, truly disappointing.
Alot of former teammates and coaches didn't like to play with Carmelo and now he exposed himself in public. I always felt sorry for Jeremy Lins success with the Knicks despite Melos cold jealousy towards him.
Melo's problem is simple, he's gotten to the end of the line and there's nothing waiting for him. There are no retirement ceremonies, no standing ovations, no farewell tour, no one day contracts, nothing. On top of that, for all of the points he scored, all star teams he made, all nba nods and Olympic medals (the only place he had any serious, sustained success) Melo doesn't have much to hang his hat on. The problem was that all of the teams he played on lacked something, and so he doesn't have anything to point to and say "I built that. We accomplished that." The only team he could say that he really did anything with was the Denver Nuggets, but he forced his way out of the team and there's still bad blood about that. The sad thing was had he stayed a little longer, and had his tenure ended a little differently, #15 would probably be in the rafters already.
Saw a comment on reddit that said numbers on jersey in Serbia for juniors represents jersey size. And Jokic pretty much wore 15 since he was probably the biggest kid on the team.
In Europe kids don't choose the number of jersey, the jersey normally go from 4 to 15 and this number 15 is always the biggest size jersey so.... Joke probably have always wore 15😂🎉
Anthony is one of the most overrated players ever--Glenn Rice with a one-dimensional inside game. Edit: Glenn Rice was a better shooter and had the ball a lot less.
Melo is a Denver legend and I loved watching those games live. It’s way better watching them now so I think he should show some respect for the new generation.
Not dunking on Melo. He's a champion - won a title in college, made a conference final with Denver, Gold medalist. GREAT career. Having said that, he's gotta ignore the voices. Jokic was #15 in the past in the ABA. It wasn't some conspiracy. He just wanted his number and as Melo was still playing and, let's face it, didn't leave a shadow in the jersey like a Bird or Jordan, he took it. Also... let's be real here. With Melo, Denver only got to 50 wins in a season when Iverson got there (keep me honest, Denver fans...). In fact, two years after Melo left, Denver won more regular season games than they EVER did with him. Jokic in less time has league MVP awards and even brought a TITLE to Denver. Let it go, Melo. Just let it go. There are a lot of great players that did amazing things, had terrific careers. But then there are just those aberrations that are BETTER.
the number was never his if it wasn't retired. Really whiny from Carmelo to complain about this. Jokic gave Denver much more than he could ever dream of, the number is now his. Period.
Carmeloverrated had how many MVP's? 0 First team all NBA? 0 Finals appearances? 0 Oh, wait but he's an all time great scorer so must have had multiple scoring titles, right? No Well how many 30ppg seasons did he have at least? 0 -Really, at 6'8? Allen Iverson was 5'11 and has 4x the scoring titles, all during a far slower paced, and defensively tougher era. Take away half of Jokic's accolades and he still destroys Melo's resume. Melo should keep his mouth shut, especially since it's a crime that he made the NBA#75 team ahead of Dwight, Manu, Pau, Webber, Ben Wallace, Dikembe, Tmac, Billups etc.
Jokic hasn’t done anything to him. He’s just insecure that Jokic is better and has accomplished more already, especially with the nuggets.
He never said anything about Jokic.
"He could have wore 15 put of homage" .....never said a word about joker? right @@melvinhhcp3615
@@melvinhhcp3615Melo said jokic was tryna pay homage to him by wearing #15 but Jokic wore 15 before the NBA 😂
lol it’s Jokic’s number now Carmelo did nothing. Why are we even discussing this.😢 giving me a headache 🤕 😂
yeah I guess Melo's last claim to personal accolade glory was that he was arguably the best player in franchise history for a given franchise (ignoring the fact that franchise has/had possibly the shallowest pool of historical HOF level NBA talent of any franchise). And now he doesn't have that either. Lin stole his thunder with the Knicks and Jokic now has claimed it from the Nuggets. Hey, here's a stretch: maybe Melo should just be happy for his fellow basketball alums.
Melo has been delusional his whole career, seriously.
- He was delusional during his time in Denver when Chauncey Billups said that the team would win but Melo would be pissed and sour if he only scored 15-25 points, but would be hyped and trying to get people spirits up if the team lost but he got 30-40.
- He was delusional that Denver would retire his number when he forced his way out before his contract was even up
- He was delusional that Denver was even thinking about him when they gave him the #15. Denver gave a player #15 before Jokic came along, and then Jokic, a second round pick no one expected anything of, got #15. Didn't hear a damn word out of Melo until Jokic showed he's "him". Now he's in his feelings.
- He was delusional in NY when Linsanity was going off, the team was winning, and was publicly pissed off about it because no one was talking about him (melo).
- He was delusional about how good he still was after that one year in OKC, which was why he couldn't get back in the league for a couple seasons, and then was out completely after that.
Delusion has been a longtime friend of Melo
He's just a 2020 black american...
Alot of off base out of context info from you😂.
@@GuyDedjeWtf does this mean?
@@melvinhhcp3615 They say that black people think that basketball belongs only to them.
@@duskobabic4285Why? Because the majority of the NBA legends are Black? I don't get it. Race politics don't belong in the sport of basketball.
It's nice to know that Melo never won a ring meanwhile Jeremy Lin and Jokic both have one 😂
Man I miss 2019 lol
thats why they called him melonoma dude was straight up cancer on any team he went to
@@chekurshiwakakak....
Lin was a 3rd string player on that Raptors team
Jeremy Lin had 1 season and 1/4 season as a good player.
He was a below average point guard for 7 seasons.
But some people think he was better than Carmelo Anthony that was a very good player for over 10 seasons. Carmelo is a top 5% all time scorer.
Jeremy Lin is a Bottom 10% all time scorer.
Jokic wasn't even the next guy to wear 15. They gave it to Anthony Rudolph for 2 years before Jokic even was drafted. People should do research.
Thank u. Just research before u pop off.
A mistake on his part, I'm sure he knows before he popped off, but still, Melo abandoned the franchise when they needed him, and Jokic was the one who delivered them a championship and that's that
Jokić did more in last 3 years than Melo in his 19. And egoistic Melo know that, but he will never admit.
Denver fans dont care about Melo I bet if his name was mentioned the crowd would boo and rightfully so because he bailed on them
Remember when Melo was disrespecting Giannis as a rookie and look what Giannis did went on to do what Melo couldn't do. League MVP, Finals MVP, and NBA Title with a small market team he didn't have to go to a big market team to win.
@@BookJay35 The problem is that in his head he is top 3, but only top 3 he is in, is top 3 most overrated.
I will give Carmelo his props. His first year, he should've gotten ROTY. His numbers were overall better than LeBron, except for scoring.
After that? No. He wasn't competitive. He became like Ben Simmons.
@@WarGhoulKharascomparing Carmelo to Ben is nasty stuff 😂
But I won't defend him lol
If you're being erased from Nuggets history that quickly, then your legacy wasn't worth that much.
Honestly, I am glad that Melo came out and revealed himself to the world that he is a douche.
Players like Stoudemire said that Melo ruined Lin's career out of jealousy. This clown coming out like this proves that that was in fact the case.
It’s been like a decade plus at this point hasn’t it? Thad legacy been dead
@@cafelatte1124Billups also said Melo would rather lose and drop 30, then win and drop 20
Joker just made the #15 for Denver a Championship number,people was blowing smoke up Melo he was a regular season God but a playoff loser
It's about the disrespect.
The narcissism in this guy is off the charts. It's no wonder he never accomplished anything in his NBA career.
Didn't accomplish anything? Milliong of ballers worldwide would love to have his career. Stop capping
@@joweydelanota7421 What did he win? Stop glazing on Melo lol, he's a bum who literally hasn't achieved anything on the CP3 lvl
@@aktannoman2215cp3 hasn’t either 😂😂😂 quit that shit
@@joweydelanota7421naturally, he is being compared to his nba peers, not random basketball players all over the world. isn’t it idiotic to compare him to someone who plays in the local ymca? smh
@@jhdivinaExactly
I can say, as a lifelong Nuggets fan who grew up in Colorado, that melo broke our hearts, and we found our savior in Joker and he delivered in ways even before he won a championship that would pale Carmelo Anthony’s résumé to the city and the fans
Jokic (along with his talented team) brought the first championship to the city. That's literally the only argument to be made. You don't even have to mention anything else. Melo turned his back on Denver, why tf would they hold him in higher esteem than the guy who began his NBA career there, stayed loyal AND brought them their first chip? Ridiculous.
Basically a case of what have you done for me and Melo hasn't done anything for Denver. The tradition of retiring numbers should only be honoured for exceptional achievements. Melo falls short of that, as is the case with the entirety of his career.
@@chancellor3122i agree melo is in the wrong and is a bad take. But if you look at what melo did with and for denver in his first like 8 or 9 seasons its enough to have a jersery retired. Scored and played well right from rookie year, like 7 straight playoff runs and over 50 wins each season i recall and i think he got to 1 conference final i think? Could be wrong and farthest was a second round exit but, he just cant see that his own actions and choices have made anything he did not matter to the nuggets. Forced his way out and got petty if he didnt drop big numbers or anyone got praise but him. Sad to see such a good scorer let ego ruin his game and legacy. Kd is doing the same thing too and its lame to see.
@@derpjenkins1001 I must admit I was a fan. He was imo the most satisfying speciment esthetically. If I could choose anyone's shooting mechanics I would take his. But as I said, to have your number retired, you have to do more.
@@chancellor3122 i feel its more of how he did all of it. I think melo technically had done enough as i said to get his number retired but he 1000 percent fucked himself of that ever happening when he forced his way out being petty. So i dont think he HAD to do more for himself but hes crazy to be shcoked denver and mad at jokic for the number being worn still lol. But yes his quick release and mechanics are insane. His little jab step to going up for his shot is a master at work. Miss those baby blue jerseys they wore all the time too lol.
@derpjenkins1001 Melo wasn't the only player on the team. He wasn't ever MVP. KD has what, two Rings? You can argue that Steph and Klay got him those rings, but Melo has never been the difference maker on Denver. He wasn't like a Harden or Westbrook where he took over games. Even when he was playing with Lin on the Knicks he couldn't make it happen.
Melo's biggest fan is Melo. He doesn't deserve a jersey retirement simply because they were a B-Tier team in the anemic Western Conference.
He never made the people around him better, either. That's what great players do.
Stop praising him like he's Jimmy Butler.
Imagine saying that someone took their team when he asked for a trade and never won anything 🤣🤣. Most defense this guy played his whole career
He didn't just ask, he demanded it. And it forced the Knicks to trade all their depth to get the deal done. He could have just finished the season then signed with NY in the off season, keeping their depth.
@@RzK084 I think that’s the funny part not only did he fuck Denver he depleted the Knicks and they were shit from that trade depth wise
@@taxationistheft7and that’s why Joker is a winner and Camelo isn’t. Despite all that talent. Nothing
melo is the type of person who always blames others for his own mistake
@@taxationistheft7delusional people will think “but i only did that to make you guys great! I sacrificed!”. Yeah thats melo alright
Jokic wasn't even the first guy after Carmelo to have 15.
He didn't even keep #15 after he left. He was #7 on the Knicks.
Fuck outta here, Melo.
One day, they WILL retire the #15 jersey in Denver… and it will have Jockic’s name on it.
Melo was just keeping #15 warm until a real man showed up in Denver and won a ring.
damn lol
Rip Carmelos number and nickname
Melo should thank him 😭😭
Words bruh 👍🏾
melo played against prime kobe and spurs in playoffs overrated statpadder played against 40 yo bron and 8th seed in finals
Man, the ego on these guys is just too much to take.
No, Jokić did not pay homage to anyone.
I don't think he knew what any NBA player wore on his back, outside maybe Jordan.
He was simply asking for a number he wore in Serbia. No more, no less.
Exactly! Thnx!
For sure he knew about Vlade Divac 12
Yeah, and the people that try to project Jokic's final career stats (so they can estimate his overall legacy) are wasting their time. Jokic will be one of those players they talk about who retired "too soon". He'll want to spend more time with family or just move on, and he couldn't care less if he surpasses someone else's legacy. That guy is humble and has class.
@@user-vw1vf5cw7dVlade is my personal favorite player of all time.
Jokić certainly knew what number he wore, but he apparently doesn't dwell in those things. He just doesn't't care.
And Carmelo Anthony wasn't that iconic of a star for people to remember, or care about his number.
That honor goes to the selected few, a group to which he doesn't belong.
@@jek4837 All true, if you replace "family" with "horses" and/or "drinking himself under the table".
Imagine being Nikola Jokic and getting all these hate and slander while you just casually win your way into MVPs, breaking records and winning a championship to boot. It’s great that he has this stoic and yet funny demeanor in him that endear him to fans around the world even if some of these Americans are hating on him.
Carmelo even insinuated that Joker picked number 15 to pay homage to Carmelo! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No he didn't.
He said that even if that was the case he still feels like it's disrespectful of Nuggets management to let people play in his old number.
He didn't say a single negative thing about Jokic in any of the clips shown in this video.
Melo abandoned the team, but more importantly, Jokic brought a championship to Denver. There’s no comparison.
Nuggets traded him to the Knicks and Nuggets and Knicks never gave him enough help.
@@jonny15dk he demanded a trade melo is stupid if he just left in free agency the knocks would not of given so much for him
Melo just upset that the white boy is better than he was and was able to do what he never could.
He was upset at Asian boy Lin stealing his spotlight at knicks too 😂
Carmelo Anthony is an insecure black boy
I don't think race is even a factor with him. It's just an ego thing IMO. And I honestly don't think he actually believes what he says.
Jokic have a ring, FMVP and 2 MVPs as of now. (First ever championship for the Nuggets) I believe he is somewhere top 10 in triple doubles for all-time.
Compared to that Melo has no ground to say Jokic "stole" the number.
But IMO the entire question is BS. Melo didn't have no. 15 retired as he didn't do enough to warrant that. Maybe if he remained with the Nuggets for his career, he could expect it without any of the big awards...
@@chuifongtam4703 Actually, two Asians stole Melo's thunder; Jeremy Lin, and the other one who actually wore #15 for the Knicks, and was honored by them. That Player was named Wat Misaka, the first Non White player drafted into the BAA, which would become the NBA.
@@matebakk5187 lmfao sure, nothing at all to the fact Jokic gets all kinds of hate because of his race, none at all
RIP to Dejan Milojević, without him we would have never seen Jokic in the NBA and he would have never reached his hall of fame potential without him and we very much appreciate for what he did with us and the superstar he introduced to the league. 😰😨😰😰
Slava mu.
Jokic is 28 and led the Nuggets to their first championship.
The dude hates to practice and probably doesn't even like basketball or cares much for winning -- yet he's without a doubt the most technically skilled Center of all time. He shoots like a guard, got some crazy af post spins, and can throw dimes like Jason Kidd.
Jokic is a walking triple-double threat -- this season he's going 25ppg, 12reb, and 9.1ast. This man is a crazy player.
Melo hasn't done anything except make the All-Star games, but instead of congratulating Jokic he's clearly envious of his success and talent.
Melo is jealous Denver loves Jokic more than him
It’s cause the joker white that’s why they don’t want to give him his credit tbh
@@imunmire For real
@@imunmire That part!
Wtf?!? Dude won the city a chip. Ofc Denver loves Jokic so much and I don't wanna hear any racism excuses. Dude got the job done and it's probably not just a one and done thing. The dude can still win them some more.
@@imunmirewhat are you talking about everybody gives Jokic his credit but melo is right tho I’m not saying melo is better than jokic kuz he’s not but melo did come in and made Denver relevant again they should of gave jokic a different number kuz melo do deserve to get his jersey retired in Denver
its so funny how Jokic is constantly in the middle of drama despite never making any statements surrounding it. Everyone is just fuming mad while Jokic is like smelling flowers and petting horses. funniest shit ever.
Yep, jealousy and envy will consume you every time.
racist blacks
It helps he’s not American though. If he was he’d be forced to address some of this stuff
@jjdillon1207 That makes no sense. It's not like he doesn't live in America.
@@ShloppyShmeat of course it does. white Americans are born with an original sin. There is constant atonement. Jokic wasn’t born into a system of “white supremacy” so he doesn’t have to deal with the same issues.
I love how Jokic is so humble and almost, in a way, couldn’t care less about basketball because he loves his horses. While grown men talk about frivolous things like jersey numbers.
As far as the fans are concerned, this is Jokic's team.
Worst take since Lebron’s “ that right there made me … “ 😆
😂😂😂 true
But lebron spoke no lies
Off the same banana boat……
maybe not greatest of all time, but no one other than lebron and the cavs ever did what they did in 2016
@EvilDead_Editz lebron is proven and confident and if he feel he is the goat he has every right to express it. Only beta males have a problem with it
Melo is the type of guy to expect his ex-wife to stay loyal to him lol
The craziest thing is that Melo is kinda implying the Denver organization knew in advance that the Joker was gonna be great enough to erase Melo's legacy which is ludicrous to say the least 😂
Melo really personifies the phrase "they hate to see you doing better than them"
Alternate title: Carmelo Anthony GETS TRASHED By People Living In Reality
What?! Melo didn't even care about that Jersey Number when Jokic first came to Denver...He also didn't even care when Jokic won his 2 MVPs & carried the Nuggets to multiple playoff runs...He only cared now coz he was jealous of Jokic winning a ring which he can't do before. And he was also jealous of Linsanity's Hype many years ago.
Didn't care went Anthony Randolph was using
Didn't care before wishing all his branding to "StayMe7o".
A player who rebranded himself and switching everything to #7 caring about #15 NOW.
White Boy can play,it all starts with in my brothers❤
Ned’s declassified legacy lmao
These players realize after jumping around they aren’t loved anywhere the way we love Hakeem Olajuwon here in Houston
He left denver. They didnt owe him chit.
Melo is forgettable.
No he ain't.
@@melvinhhcp3615 yea he is.
yeah he is to white boys
Totally. People won't remember him that much, and it's not clever for him to ternish his legacy by comments like that. Because in 50 years player will still talk about Jokic and not have a clue about who Melo was unless you're a NBA nerd, like knowing who was Nate Archibald today.
Yep. I forgot he once played for Denver and didn't even know 15 used to his number.
ive always known Carmelo thought of himself too highly but this takes the cake, I didn't expect him to be so bitter towards Jokic
Melo is one of the best scorers in history.
@@vamoneygroup so? why's he so bitter
@@aedaed3605 he's not bitter. He played in a more competitive era. The NBA now doesn't even allow defense or physicality. And now is when Europeans "dominate".
I am truly surprised to hear Carmelo make these statements. He was much loved in Denver- really one of the nicest guys to ever play in the NBA. Even when he left, most Nuggets fans understood this was just a kid who wanted to realize his lifelong dream of playing for the Knicks, and wished him well. But retire his jersey? Are you kidding? Something has gone wrong with him and it makes me sad to see him bitter/delusional about a career that was pretty damn good.
The sad truth, most people doesnt know what kind of person their idol is.
To know their true form is as simple as see them when they at the lowest.
Did Carmelo even win a playoff series in Denver?
Got to the WCF once and probably one or two outside that.@@thebenc1537
As a nuggets fan I loved Carmelo. He chose to leave us and broke my heart. He sux.
@@markhomer2524Carmelo was a bum. The only skill he developed was his shooting. He was naturally gifted to do many things but didnt improve much. Rebounding, defense, passing, teamwork - these skills were never developed. He relied on his raw talent and in the end he was just a shooter. Not even one of the all time greats, just a really good shooter.
The entitlement is strong with this one. If you haven't led your team to at least one championship, you leave the fate of your jersey in the hands of the organization. And if this was truly an egregious offense, Carmelo wouldn't even need to say anything. The fans would have raised such an uproar, the organization would have backed off. Instead, no one noticed until this interview.
C'mon, be serious. People obviously knew #15 was Melo's number. But as he said, he left that door open when he left Denver (whether he wanted out is irrelevant because they obviously ended on bad terms).
@@atlien1988 Then why did he change his number to 7 when he went to the Knicks? Why did they give 15 to Anthony Randolph after Carmelo?
You do know that 15 was Jokic's number in Serbia, right?
Or did you just get on your keyboard with half your brain fried off by kitchen meth and think that you were smart?
@@atlien1988I never knew 15 was melos number lol. I been watching nba since 99
@atlien1988 Bro I been watching since 1988 and I didn't know it. No one I know ever talked about 15 being Melo's number. 23 we know. 32 we know. 33 we know. 8/24 we know. 15?? Nope.
@@atlien1988melo himself use 7 as his primary number in any of his marketing.
Melo hasn’t done enough in his career to even get his number retired EVER! He doesn’t have rights to that number or any number on any team.
He got 25k pts. Played 19 seasons. Won 4 Gold medals. Fym he ain't done enough in his career? Y'all are fckn crazy. Lmao
@@melvinhhcp3615 The other dude did far more than melo in a couple of years, stfu and sit down.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Are you serious??? Played 19 Seasons.....GOLD MEDALS!!?!?!?!?! WTF!! So simply doing what you're paid to do is now the criteria for getting a jersey retired??? Then I guess Vince Carter needs his Jersey retired in all the cities he played also. F'n 19 seasons...LOL. GTFOH!
@@Avarice-ZeroA player with 25k pts is not the average. So talking like Melo was Darko Milicic is not accurate.
@@melvinhhcp3615 the majority all achieved in NY. He forced his way off the team, Denver is not obliged to owe him anything at that point.
Jokic wasn't even the first one to wear 15 after Camilla left.
He defends a legacy that never was and he even demanded a trade! ...and never defended a thing when he played in Denver. What a complete tool.
In Europe we wear numbers from 4 to 15 (sometimes 16 as a reserve), and they are by size. So usually a lot of C and PF get to wear number 14 and 15, while wings get to have like 7 and 9, and small guards 4 or 5. It's not always exactly by size of course in pro ball you get to have them made better, but it's a tradition. So Jokic wearing 15 is very logical for him
In Europe, traditionally centers used to take numbers from 11 to 15.
@@user-vw1vf5cw7d yeah it depends how many big guys you have on the team 😂
That makes so much sense! But in America everything is about money so they make the player numbers a big deal to sell jerseys lol
Exactly with Luka 7
Yeah u are right bro
They didn't even remember he wore 15. Probably didn't even remember he played for them. He thinks he's way more important than he is.
We about to see so many nba players start up a podcast and talk about how they were him like their career isnt online for everyone to see
Bro that’s jokers team. He’s in villain mode out here collecting rings
Jokic's past 3 seasons are greater than Melo's entire career
True. Lol
If jokic somehow turned a Ben Simmons and forced his way into no longer playing... Nah. Melos basketball resume is much deeper than his.
That's not gonna happen but still lmao
@@ianslee4765 melo never could obtain a championship, Jokic already did. That’s all I got to say.
@@dannyhernandez265 so bill Walton, igoudala, and chauncey had a better basketball career than Karl Malone, Steve Nash, Allen Iverson, Charles Barkley?
@@dannyhernandez265 melo is top ten all time in points and either number one or two in NBA Olympic points. That cannot just be brushed aside as a body of work. Will joker be above him all time in say four years? Most likely. Has anyone not on a three peat dynasty put together three years better than Melos entire career? Absolutely not
Jokic was wearing 15 since high school because he was the biggest kid and wore the biggest number which went to 15. This is why he wears 15. Carmelo needs to grow up and stop with the stupidity..
Wasn’t smart to begin with
This era is so entitled....he sounds like a baby. Did he forget he had no accomplishments in his career to merit having his jersey retired???
So he waits till after Jokic gets a ring and ascends into the leagues best player to complain about the jersey number. But Denver are the ones being petty?🤨
They can't stop Giving us reasons to root for Jokic even more.
Another reason is Jokic's conduct off the court. He's very quick to praise other NBA players and offer words of encouragement to players who want them from him (Alperen Sengun in particular, because he idolizes Jokic). Whether his team beats the Rockets or not, he immediately walks over to Sengun after the game has ended and tells him "Great job, Alperen, I'm proud of you. Keep up the good work." and means every word. Jokic has praised Wembanyama, telling reporters that he will "change the game of basketball." He has also praised SGA, telling reporters that he's a "serious problem for the league." Jokic also apparently mentors Sengun and gives him advice on how to play better, despite the fact that he plays for a different team. He might be the only player in the league that would do something like that. Can you imagine Embiid, Giannis, SGA or Luka doing something like that? I can't. These are just three examples of the kind of person Jokic is, and the many intangibles he brings to the NBA.
I'm not even a minute in and i'm screaming exactly.
As a Knicks fan I wish Denver was his life long team, and he accomplished more there than he did, instead he came to the Knicks and dragged the franchise down for basically a decade, while fans blindly believe he somehow elevated it and that team that got embarrassed in the playoffs a couple times was some how something to be looked back on fondly. Julius Randel and Jalen Brunson are going to completely make him disappear from New York history too.
He left us. Why would we have the “respect” for him? He and A.I were almost the same in Denver. We aren’t remembering A.I as a nugget great. Jokic has been 15 for all his life damn near. Now he is a great big man and brought us a chip. Yeah this ain’t a contest
A.I. in Denver does not parallel to Carmelo! Wtf. A.I. is a 76er!
@@melvinhhcp3615 he was in Denver at one point fam and he and melon were damn near the same person. That’s my point melo was just here longer. And when I say same person I mean going out to clubs not working hard just thinking their god given ability would take them all the way.
@@brownie7858Iverson was only there for 18 months. Carmelo was the franchise for 7 seasons. There is no comparison. Knock it off.
Ai unenjoyers out tonight.
@@JasonAtlas what now?
They gave away his number because they knew he had no defence.
You talking like Jokic is a DPOY.
Jokić wanted number 15 because he always used that number in his life prior NBA.
@@unwokeneuropean3590exactly
@@melvinhhcp3615no need to be, as long as he gives an effort and compensates with his passing and scoring skills. Melo never showed any implication on one side of the court and was a black hole on the other, great scorer this said.
@@melvinhhcp3615 When your offensive game is complete you don't really need to be a good defender.
This channel is so good
people say “jokic has accomplished so much already” not realizing that jokic has been in denver longer than carmelo anthony ever was. 9 seasons to 8 this year.
jokic will go down as denver’s greatest ever 15
also, that comment carmelo made about “paying homage” is insane. jokic is a better player than you ever were carmelo as of 4 years ago to now. to what does he owe you homage? what a ridiculous statement
All Melo can do was score he couldn't pass shoot play defense rebound 😂😂....he act like #15 was sacred😂😂😂
Revisionist history
Now you either don’t know ball or you’re just a hater😂 he rebounded elite at his position arguably the best at it.
@@SAVESEIDI ur an idiot he's the best small forward 🤣😂🤣 Melo average 6.2 rebound per game that ain't shit for a forward..
@@SAVESEIDI yeah all that rebounding and couldnt win a ring lmao
@@SAVESEIDInot like grabbing them rebounds helped his team win lol
Melo’s tryna re-write history. I wouldn’t retire his jersey in DEN. He burned that franchise down, and now he’s tryna big-dog the history books and Magic erase that shit.
Melo was the reason he had no help in NY.
Phil Jackson made the roster moves tho.
@@melvinhhcp3615 ?? Carmelo Anthony forced his way to NY 2/2/2011. The Knicks introduced Jackson as the president of basketball ops 3/18/2014. He was brought in to clean house after 3 year of BS. Melo didn’t buy in to any philosophy that didn’t suit his preference, same issue Karl had with him in DEN. Billups confirmed as well.
Dolan meddled and bid against himself in the Melo trade request. Melo signed his deal in 06 (80M) in DEN, got beat in 07-10, saw the Heat form, the infamous wedding toast occurred, & Melo burned the franchise down.
The talk around that trade was that DEN was going to erase Melo. he didn't care, it was all "Stay Me7o." Now he's mad Joker's turning out to be an all-time great who brought the chip to DEN. Melo's attempting to change the narrative from the reality of his childish behavior/decision to this farcical recount of "oh its eff me"
real weanie behavior
And Melo didn't even have the smarts to comprehend the triangle offense completely wasting getting Phil in the first place. Dude is a phenomenal player for sure but I get the feeling he'd have a more successful career and won chips if he was the primary scorer and had a smart and tough leader and floor general by his side to offset his weaknesses.
@@imfinishedgrinding638If Phil wantef to implement the Triangle, he should have coached the team himself, instead of trying to quarterback from the front office via that incompetent fraud Mike D'Antoni!
@@imfinishedgrinding638no that roster was awful had nothing to do with Melo not knowing the triangle😂the system was dated and the team was not constructed for it at all. Phil made like 1 good decision in NY y’all are just lying😂
Melo is delusional.
1. Jokic Wore 15 all his career before joining the Nuggets including when he played for Serbia long before joining the NBA.
2. Melo's Nuggets in all 8 seasons he played for them never got past the first round except once. His best seasonal record with the Nuggets was 54 wins which is sub standard to say the least for someone who wants his jersey retired. His playoff record is 2 wins and 8 defeats. (20% winrate) He was 3 times all star during his tenure with Denver 3 times out of 8 seasons.
3. Nobody protested that his number wasnt reitred. There was no outcry by the fans, no public pressure. I dont think they even thought ever about returing his jersey let alone deciding to go against such proposition. I dont think it was ever even brought up.
Some people do have inflated sense of themselves and their achievements. It is good for competition maybe but its best left on the court.
To be fair to Anthony, he didn't trash Jokic, he was trashing Nuggets' ownership and management.
Still, it's hilarious and pathetic to think Jokic took #15 to pay homage to him....a guy that is 100% team player, that would rather assist than score paying homage to a ballhog bricklayer who was only out for himself.
I think you're right about Melo being mad at ownership rather than at Jokic and I can see management being petty like that.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Jokic just kept playing with 15 because it's a traditional center number in Europe and he didn't think that much about it to be honest. I can't imagine Jokic caring that much about what a player from 10 years ago was doing on an other continent. I'm pretty sure he didn't watch Nuggets games growing up in Serbia. Or any NBA at all for that matter. I don't think it was meant as disrespect at all, he just doesn't register this kind of things at all.
At the end of the day, melo's jersey belongs up on the rafters in madison square garden and I think everyone agrees with that.
Hahah listening Melo and his hypeman sitting in the couch is funny af. Making stories to make a story in their heads.
People forget Nurkic was viewed as the better of the two in Denver before he requested a trade and went to Portland
exactly
lol how quickly things turn. Now Nurk ain’t anywhere near Jokic’s level.
Remember when kyrie vs curry talks were a thing 😂
pretty much only Nurkic himself thought so
Nurkic was picked in the first round. Jokic was not. Nurkic had a higher potential
This is sad to me. There's more to life than petty self-aggrandizement. This kind of resentment is so psychologically destructive. Melo needs to have gratitude that he could do what he loved for a living, had millions of adoring fans and has his health and financial security. Melo has had it all, except for a mentor to teach him how to be happy.
These player podcasts are just the reverse of the shows they whine about. The fact the co-host didn't even bother to try to question Carmelo's assertions is crazy.
Melo is the most over rated player in history. People act like he shot even close to 50%
I agree, the next generation won't even know who he is.
Melo PHYSICALLY HAS THE NUMBER 7 ON HIS CLOTHING DURING THE PODCAST. How Sway?
Denver Nuggets : Hey you man Wore this #15 because one day you'll become a 2X MVP and NBA Champion.
yo Melo…sorry to tell you but Jokic didn’t steal anything; he was drafted to a team, took a number that was available (your gripe should be with management) and actually led them to a title; how many chips did you bring to Denver?
I don’t like Melo, but you should be fair to him and listen to what he actually said on that podcast. His gripe IS explicitly with management. You’ll note that he is very careful not to throw shade at Jokic-he only suggests that the TEAM offered jokic the number in an attempt to erase Melo’s history.
Now keep in mind even that statement by him is inane, but still. He’s not coming at Joker, he’s coming at the team.
You never heard a peep from this clown when 15 was worn by someone before Jokic and when Jokic was drafted as a 2nd rd pick and nobody talked about him. Stop giving him leeway with his behavior on display and call him out that he's pouting like a baby now since he knows he'll never get his number retired by the city due to the fact that he bailed out on them in the first place.
he is mad at the management tho.. i agree he's delusional here but he does say it was the management
@@roghider3552 oh come on, read my message fully too. I don’t like Melo. He’s obviously on a huge ego trip just as he’s always been, and everything he’s spouting on about is inane drivel. He doesn’t deserve his jersey retired, even if Joker had never taken that number and done greater things with it. I am *not* defending anything he said, which is all dumb and stupid.
I AM defending him from claims that he said things that he never actually did say. He *didn’t* come after Joker like OP said. He went after management.
If you’re gonna call someone out for being stupid (like we are doing to Melo), don’t be stupid yourself by getting what they said wrong.
@@Billymanaco Dude no one hate melo because they thought he threw shade on joker.
Everyone hate the fact that Melo result and record or number are way lower but being cry baby about it. It has nothing to do with Joker explicitly, it just no one give a shit about him talking about integrity when he the one who Demanded transfer.
The irony of the "Carmelo's" sensitivity is that the Jokic has a life outside basketball and seemingly is the kind of guy who could care less what his number is.......Jokic will probably forget about basketball after his future retirement and concentrate on his family and his horses.
Jokic gives the impression that the only reason that he became a professional basketball player is that he's too big and heavy to be a successful professional jockey
The player podcast era has just shown us that even if you are a star player, you can still be an absolute idiot, though not all of them.
Why would any franchise retire this man’s number? He’s never done anything worthy of that honor.
It’s simple Carmelo Anthony is jealous & an envious person of others success. It’s probably eating up at him that “his number” is on a guy that’s the complete opposite of him in terms of personality & success. While he was losing to the Elton brand led clippers and getting destroyed by the spurs Jokic was beating them in his first playoff runs and then went on to win a chip & two mvps. I don’t hate Melo as a nuggets fan as much as others but dude needs to face the fact that he holds a lot of the responsibility as to why he is hated in Denver and why the organization doesn’t celebrate him like other guys in the team’s history. You didn’t leave because the nuggets were “going into a rebuild” you left because you wanted to be a Knick and be remembered as one. But now that your career didn’t go the way you thought it would in NY & the majority of your best years was in Denver nowwww you want the love & for people to “pay homage” 😂
2 things Melo had good numbers in Denver, but no championship & no MVP. Also the way the host, spoke about Jokic taking the piss out of how he talks disrespect to non US players does my head in.
Unreal…. This guy actually puts this for the whole world to see
Nice analysis
He cries disrespect yet he clearly has not taken a second to consider Jokic's journey to the NBA or the possibility that he wore 15 before. Melo was a great scorer who ultimately did nothing,
Jokic is clearly too white for his respect.
I can understand the part where Melo said it was petty if they forced #15 onto Jokic. I can also understand where he says they erased his legacy to the next generation, intentionally or not, the kids don’t know about Denver Melo, and they never will unless they research it themselves. But where Melo is wrong is that he forced his way out of Denver, he could’ve finished the season and left of his own volition, but he didn’t he forced his way out in a midseason trade that also screwed the Knicks cap space. Also nobody expected Jokic to surpass Melo in accomplishments when they drafted him. But fact of the matter is Jokic became a much better player than Melo, and Melo has to live with that. His ill-advised decisions are coming back to bite him. Also the way his career ended, I could understand why he’s bitter about it. No retirement celebration or 1-day contract to honor his legacy, truly disappointing.
Alot of former teammates and coaches didn't like to play with Carmelo and now he exposed himself in public. I always felt sorry for Jeremy Lins success with the Knicks despite Melos cold jealousy towards him.
Melo's problem is simple, he's gotten to the end of the line and there's nothing waiting for him. There are no retirement ceremonies, no standing ovations, no farewell tour, no one day contracts, nothing. On top of that, for all of the points he scored, all star teams he made, all nba nods and Olympic medals (the only place he had any serious, sustained success) Melo doesn't have much to hang his hat on. The problem was that all of the teams he played on lacked something, and so he doesn't have anything to point to and say "I built that. We accomplished that." The only team he could say that he really did anything with was the Denver Nuggets, but he forced his way out of the team and there's still bad blood about that. The sad thing was had he stayed a little longer, and had his tenure ended a little differently, #15 would probably be in the rafters already.
Chauncey was a bigger factor than melo in the 09 west finals playoff run
Saw a comment on reddit that said numbers on jersey in Serbia for juniors represents jersey size. And Jokic pretty much wore 15 since he was probably the biggest kid on the team.
In Europe kids don't choose the number of jersey, the jersey normally go from 4 to 15 and this number 15 is always the biggest size jersey so.... Joke probably have always wore 15😂🎉
Poor Carmelo - needs therapy . Fast , somebody help him.
Melo coping hard that some 2nd round pick has destroyed his whole career in a few seasons. 😂
I can imagine Jokics response: "man, its just a number. You can keep it, if you are happy. I just want to go home"
Did Melo wake up one day and thought, I can be "relevant" again by being "controversial" or was it a brain thrust?
Anthony is one of the most overrated players ever--Glenn Rice with a one-dimensional inside game. Edit: Glenn Rice was a better shooter and had the ball a lot less.
The Nuggets never thought Jokic was going to be great when they drafted him. He was drafted as Jusuf Nurkić's backup.
I love how humble Carmelo is he made sure to never win a ring so I wouldnt feel left out! A true goat!
Carmelo Anthony will be even more furious when that No.15 jersey gets retired by the Nuggets and has Jokic on the back of it 😂
Melo is a Denver legend and I loved watching those games live. It’s way better watching them now so I think he should show some respect for the new generation.
"YOOOO that's crazy!"
Yes, it is crazy.
Not dunking on Melo. He's a champion - won a title in college, made a conference final with Denver, Gold medalist. GREAT career. Having said that, he's gotta ignore the voices. Jokic was #15 in the past in the ABA. It wasn't some conspiracy. He just wanted his number and as Melo was still playing and, let's face it, didn't leave a shadow in the jersey like a Bird or Jordan, he took it. Also... let's be real here. With Melo, Denver only got to 50 wins in a season when Iverson got there (keep me honest, Denver fans...). In fact, two years after Melo left, Denver won more regular season games than they EVER did with him. Jokic in less time has league MVP awards and even brought a TITLE to Denver. Let it go, Melo. Just let it go. There are a lot of great players that did amazing things, had terrific careers. But then there are just those aberrations that are BETTER.
the number was never his if it wasn't retired.
Really whiny from Carmelo to complain about this. Jokic gave Denver much more than he could ever dream of, the number is now his. Period.
I do wish they'd go back to those baby blue Nuggets jerseys from Anthonys seasons. Those were awesome.
I love that jokic won’t give a damn at all
Its amazing seeing these Americans hate on European players. Cope and seethe harder melo 😂
Great breakdown
Bummer Melo thinks this way.
But oh well 😂
Interviewer was glazing like a mf he knew damn well that jersey belong to jokic 🤣
Jokic paying homage to MELO. LMAO
😂 Melo is just another adult baby ball bouncer filled with fear and loathing.
Didn't he change his number when he went to the Knicks? It must not be that important.
😂😂😂😂
And the Knicks most exciting times when he was there was Linsanity.
Carmeloverrated had how many MVP's? 0
First team all NBA? 0
Finals appearances? 0
Oh, wait but he's an all time great scorer so must have had multiple scoring titles, right? No
Well how many 30ppg seasons did he have at least? 0
-Really, at 6'8? Allen Iverson was 5'11 and has 4x the scoring titles, all during a far slower paced, and defensively tougher era.
Take away half of Jokic's accolades and he still destroys Melo's resume. Melo should keep his mouth shut, especially since it's a crime that he made the NBA#75 team ahead of Dwight, Manu, Pau, Webber, Ben Wallace, Dikembe, Tmac, Billups etc.