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IRIS Simulations Pilatus PC-21 | Full Flight Review | Microsoft Flight Simulator
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In this video, we take the IRIS Simulations Pilatus PC-21 for a flight within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS)
We'll take the aircraft on a low-level run around the Swiss Alps, departing and arriving into Mollis AFB (LSMF / LSZM).
Flight Routing: LSZM DCT N4704E00903 DCT N47E00904 DCT N4654E00859 DCT N4652E00848 DCT N4653E00837 DCT N4657E00837 DCT N4657E00849 DCT N4659E00856 DCT N4701E00855 DCT N4704E00903 LSZM
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight!
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Bought this at launch and I wasn't disappointed.
I was surprised by the lack of prop torque, untill I found out the PC-21 has its prop angled slightly to the right to counter this. IRIS included this in the model. I think that great attention to detail is representative of the whole aircraft.
100% up there with the Arrow, 310, Corsair etc in the top tier of add-ons.
Very happy to hear that you're enjoying it Roland! IRIS have definitely gone from strength to strength in MSFS thus far and whilst I wasn't expecting to get all that much enjoyment out of the PC-21 (it's just not really my cup of tea), I was proven well and truly wrong haha. These sorts of aircraft in FSX etc, tended to suffer from all of the default turboprop issues and therefore weren't much fun to fly, but here the IRIS PC-21 was every bit as enjoyable as the MB339, Hawk etc.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
All propeller driven aircraft are designed with the thrust line offset to counter torque effects, but it is always a compromise due the different effects at different power settings and different phases of flight. What the PC-21 does have is an automatic yaw compensation system (trim aid device), as well as the FADEC limiting power below 80 knots. From people I've spoken to, you can barely tell the difference between the PC-21 and a jet, and this is by design.
When I want an authoritative review, I watch your videos. You really come off as a trusted voice in the community. And I'm glad you gave this plane a good review because I like the looks of it.
Hi PF,
Well thank you very much for the kind words! I certainly try my best to remain honest and impartial; I value the integrity of the channel and my relationship with you guys, the viewers, a great deal.
I very much enjoyed the PC-21, more so than I was expecting to in fact ha. If you picked the addon up, I hope you're enjoying it also!
Much appreciated and all the best : )
Just bought it the other day, so far my favorite to fly, great fun, detailed avionics , flys fantastic, and always brings a grin..
Hi Anthony. Very happy to hear that you’re enjoying the addon! The PC-21 is indeed always good for having some fun.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Wow! I woke up and chose to have cold-left-over cheese enchiladas with Faygo Moon Mist pop while, once again, siting too close to the monitor because I just love ITB Simulation videos. The vertigo was significant during the loop portion of flight. Loved every second of it!
I can only be held responsible for the flying Stewie, not any illness that may result from the consumption of food / beverages! : P
"Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times"
I'm really glad you enjoyed the flight! Thanks very much for watching once again : )
Same here (except it was cheese quesadillas). Worth it !
Another great iTB video - like there's any other type! 🙂 The detail, the narration, the production values - superb.
Haha, thank you very much indeed Haden, you're too kind! ; )
Very much appreciated as always though and thank you once again for watching - I'm really glad you enjoyed it! : )
Great review as always, thank you very much! I bought the PC-21 yesterday and after the first two flights absolutely agree with your review. Looking forward to the announced rewrite of the custom PC-21 HUD, until then the F-18 HUD is okay. Also hope for some improvements regarding the FMS and especially the nav display. Otherwise the aircraft flies very, very nicely and looks beautiful, especially the MFDs. Absolutely worth the money!
I noticed the Hornet HUD, too. It's fine for a $20 addon if they can match the plane's performance to it. But, glad to see they're going to bring the "proper" one to the model - thanks!
The F-18 HUD is a bummer honestly, you guys know how deep is this aircraft when it comes to the systems?
Unless I've missed something, the PC-21 has the option to switch to a more authentic HUD (at least I had assumed it was more authentic), as I demonstrated during the video? : )
Thanks very much once again Volker, great to hear that you're enjoying the PC-21!
There certainly are some areas that could be improved, mainly in the nav / systems department as you say; certainly in the fun department, the aircraft is no slouch though haha.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Thanks for the assessment! By far the most incisive and detailed review of this aeroplane on the internet!
My pleasure Noel! Thank you very much for the kind words - throughly appreciated.
I’m really glad you found the video to be of use. Thanks for watching and all the best to you : )
South Korea plans to develop a new combat trainer to replace the KT-1 trainer. It will probably be developed as a top-of-the-line trainer for the existing super turcano or pilatus PC-21. The analog instrument panel will be changed to the digital one seen in fighter jets.
Might buy this, it's currently very cheap due to the sale and the update changelog seems to address many of the issues you've mentioned! :) thanks for the great review as always!
Well now is it just me or is the PC-21 a sexy plane?
Always loved the way it looked from when I've first seen it.
Happy to have it in the sim now too.
Also come to think about it the overall quality of the add ons we have been getting better and better.
Especially when it comes to the amount of features.
As always thank you for the review. :)
Haha, I would have to agree Dream, the PC-21 is indeed a pretty sleek design. It looks even better in red haha.
Yes, for all of the flack it has gotten, MSFS seems to have actually pushed the boundaries of what is expected from a "decent" addon (we didn't used to get external fittings, configuration options, 3D internal pilot models etc as standard).
Cheers as always! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Honestly come think about it most Pilatus aircraft look very sleek. Well apart from the absolute unit that is the PC-6.
Well add ons better feature such a good featureset for what they cost.
The usual 30€ is not exactly cheap.
Anyways lets hope we see less of these quick cash grab add ons now.
Haha! It’s true - the PC-6 is the ugly duckling of the Pilatus family XD
Just one small thing to add: Mollis, the town in Switzerland, the "s" at the end isn't silent, so its pronounced with the "s"
Thanks very much IB. Someone else did make the same observation as well, so I will certainly know better for next time!
Much appreciated and all the best : )
Excellent review video once more, ITBS. And yes, YPEA (on the included map) is RAAF Pearce. Home to an airforce flight training squadron and just up the road from my house. Their PC21s are flying over my suburb quite frequently, so I'm tempted to buy this even though turboprop military aircraft aren't really of much interest to me either.
Cheers for the info Achim and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I had figured that the two locations chosen by IRIS for mapping, must have had some significance; certainly makes sense if Pearce is a PC-21 training base.
I think you've got to pick this one up then, if you're that close to the real deal haha. Besides, despite the addon not being to either of our usual tastes, I must say it is cracking good fun ; )
Cheers once again! All the best : )
Ha ha! Had hoped you would review this one...and here it is! Very fair review, as always, and I'm glad you took the time to explain things like the graphics performance vs resolution being an intentional decision by IRIS.
This is actually my favorite type of aircraft in (any) sim: modern(ish) instruments under a bubble canopy and great performance to have fun with.
I'm glad you think the value for money is there, and comparing it to the direct competitors like India Foxt Echo & MilViz, I also think it's priced appropriately.
Normally I wait for a sale, but this one is too close to my personal sweet spot and the price is right, so I'm off to buy it!
Haha, well there you go Siesta ; )
Yes, the PC-21 is definitely very fairly priced and that's always nice to see. If you're looking for something with bags of fun and a bubble canopy, I'd say this one ticks all the boxes!
I hope you're enjoying the addon! Happy flying and all the best : )
Great demo & review. Looks a cracking plane. I had been waiting for the JustFlight Hawk T-1 to be released for the xbox but was starting to wonder whether it would ever appear. From your review, the PC-21 looks like it's just as much fun - plus I prefer props anyway. Bought it straight away. Thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks very much A Sill, a pleasure as always!
I think the Hawk will still make an appearance on the console, but for sure it has been a long wait haha. The PC-21 is a brilliant stop-gap solution at the very least and certainly delivers every bit as much on the fun factor; + it's just as shiny and red as the Hawk : P
If props are your thing, then the PC-21 certainly ticks a lot of boxes.
I hope you're enjoying the addon! Happy flying and all the best : )
My go to reviewer for honest reactions.
Thank you very much.
Well thank you very much Flightgamer, kind of you to say! I’m really glad you’re finding the content useful / reliable.
My absolute pleasure on the vids! All the best : )
Another beautiful aircraft and flight. Thank you for doing the review!
Thank you very much Andrew, my absolute pleasure! I'm really glad you enjoyed the aircraft and indeed the flight : )
Cheers, all the best!
Making the aircraft ready for the Xbox seems like a weak excuse for the texturing problems. Carenado and especially Sim Works Studios, for example, seem to make solid products which work on both platforms without compromise. I am not saying that it's not a good plane, overall I like it. To be honest, I am not one to worry about graphics too much as long as it is generally good. I just don't care for the excuse.
Your reviews are consistently excellent. I appreciate how much care and attention you take with each of your subjects. Thank you very much!
Thank you very much for the kind words Dillan, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content!
I completely agree with you on that one: I think devs have all too often used the Xbox as a bit of an “excuse”. We’ve seen devs claiming they haven’t accomplished XYZ, in order to make the product compatible on the console, meanwhile another dev has managed the same thing just fine. I wouldn’t pretend to know exactly what goes into making a product though and the compromises that have to be made etc.
All that being said, in the case of the PC-21 specifically, I too still think it’s a good product. Higher resolution textures would have been nice, but the aircraft still looks good and is very enjoyable to fly.
You’re most welcome re the videos! My pleasure and all the best to you : )
Thanks for your review,picked this up yesterday, off to Mollis to have a look around.
My pleasure Julian, I hope you enjoyed Mollis! Happy flying and all the best : )
Hoping they do the T-6 Texan II. I’ll save my money for that then pull the trigger on this. Great review!
Considering iris have done the T-6 Texan for P3D already, after they finish the pc-24 off they might start getting more of their other aircraft into MSFS
Thanks very much Carl, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I don't know what IRIS have lined up in terms of future products, but the T-6 would certainly be great. As drift mentions; given that IRIS did a Texan II in P3D, I'd say it's likely we'll see the aircraft in MSFS also : )
Cheers, all the best!
Today they are I’m pretty sure
Thanks again for taking the time and effort for this wonderful review!! The most in depth reviews for MSFS out there! Keep up the great work and happy halloween! :)
Thank you very much James, my pleasure on the video! I really appreciate the kind words and I'm very happy to hear that you're enjoying the content. A very belated Happy Halloween to you also haha.
Cheers and all the best! : )
Great presentation... Thank you for your time and effort.... Roger..Pembrokeshire
Thank you very much Roger, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video! My pleasure and all the best to you : )
Wonderful review once again, thank you.
It looks fun enough and good for the cheap price. Lots of little details. The default Boeing FMS, the ITT, and the spin characteristics do put me off though. I may wait for some updates. Accuracy is important to me.
Yeah same for me, I was expecting a full fidelity plane and this is not it. I will just wait hoping it gets to a more detailed modelling when it comes to systems. Also the F-18 HUD...
Thank you very much indeed Kengou, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The PC-21 certainly is fun and very fairly priced. It does have some issues undoubtedly though and waiting certainly won't do one any harm. Hopefully IRIS put out a patch fairly soon, they were pretty quick to fix the Grob up, after they released that.
Cheers again and all the best! : )
It's definitely not full fidelity AA, no. The F-18 HUD can be toggled though, there is also a more authentic PC-21 HUD available as an option (though weirdly the default selection is the F-18 HUD).
All the best : )
@@Al-Azraqyou can change it to the pc 21 hud
What a gorgeous aircraft. Appreciate the video!
Very pretty, isn’t it Simon. I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks very much and all the best : )
First ten seconds of video, and I'm already like "Come on Mav, do some of that pilot shit!"
Spoiler. Mav did not do some of that pilot shit. . . XD
@26:30 that was the over g warning. The number below the G meter on the hud is max Gs pulled.
Cheers Joe! I thought it might be, but didn’t spot the g’s at the time (and missed the max g readout). Hopefully I didn’t bend anything then ; )
Much appreciated. All the best!
Sir could you also do xplane add-ons? They have a lot of amazing addons like flyjsim, felis and toliss! Id like to see you review those some time in the future 🙂 cuz you're the best reviewer ive ever seen !
Check out his Playlists. He has a lot of X-Plane videos featuring the developers you mentioned.
@@stewiepid4385 really? I sure will! Thanks
Hi Mukkuimama,
Thanks very much for the request and indeed the kind words! I would love to cover X-Plane content more than I do, but 1) X-Plane videos don't tend to do very well on the channel (as a result of the way TH-cam's algorithm works) and much more importantly 2) I simply don't have enough to time to fully cover 2 sims haha. As Stewie kindly points out, I do have some X-Plane content on the channel; the FlyJSim 737 and Toliss A321 are featured for example, but they aren't review videos per se and being older content, it's a little more "rough around the edges" haha. I do have a couple more X-Plane videos pre-recorded and those will be uploaded in due course (another flight in the FlyJSim 737, one in the Flight Factor A320 etc) and I also plan to record a video in the FlyJSim 727 soon.
I hope that is of some interest to you. Thanks again and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes indeed, ill go check those out and once again keep up the amazing videos
Excellent review as always.💸
Thank you and take care
Thank you very much once again sir, thoroughly appreciated!
Happy flying : )
Into the Blue Simulations, we need a Mach run, with this aircraft.
Haha, cheers DHK, I will make that happen at some point undoubtedly! : D
Always a Full descritiption and opinions are Always Appreciated.
Cheers Mike! Very happy to hear that the video was of use : )
Brilliant review as always from ITB
Thanks very much James! Very kind of you to say and I'm really glad you enjoyed the video : )
All the best!
Amazing aircraft!
Yeah, the PC-21 is another nice effort from IRIS, great fun as well!
Cheers Harry : )
Fly this way in RL and you have your licence suspended life long. Nobody would fo a tonneaux in a narrow valley like that, not even the Pilatus test pilot. There are restricted (R) area in Switzerland for military exercise only. I have seen this aircraft several times in my LSZL airport where the is the swiss military flying school equipped with the older PC7. Stunning performance when compared with the still good old one..
Haha, for sure Antonio, but that's the beauty of a sim - one can dare to tread, where others certainly wouldn't in reality! The flight might not have been realistic, but it was cracking good fun ; )
If IRIS have done a half-decent job with the flight model and it is broadly representative of the PC-21 then yeah, the aircraft's performance is pretty stunning!
Cheers, all the best : )
If I'm not, wrong the correct ICAO code for this airport is LSZM, not LSMF as in your description. Great video, thanks.
Hi there, LSZM based pilot here. LSZM is indeed correct. LSMF is the old military base code but you still see it referred as LSMF often, MSFS shows it as LSMF aswell
Thanks very much for offering up the help Fahrstuhlmusik, much appreciated!
I did note that there were seemingly 2 ICAO codes for Mollis and I had assumed the switch had taken place once the airbase was decommissioned.
Lucky you - it looks like a stunning part of the world to fly in! : )
Hi Rogerio,
Indeed, it seems you're correct! I was aware that Mollis had switched ICAO codes at some point, but LSMF was the one that sprang to mind at the time haha. I'll update the description to include both ICAO codes, since it seems both are still relevant, and I believe the sim uses the older code at any rate.
Cheers and all the best! : )
I presume it's recommended to use a HOTAS instead of a yoke/throttle for this plane.
I have an Alpha/Bravo yoke/throttle, but also have a TM16000 HOTAS.
I would say that it’s preferable eracer, but certainly not required. I use a HOTAS for all of my simming, where of course sometimes a yoke / throttle would be more appropriate. The only aircraft type where I think using a yoke would be really tricky, would be helicopters haha. If you have both options though, I would go with the HOTAS for the PC-21.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
When will the RMM video tutorial be available?
I’m afraid I don’t have any info on that, Luigi. Probably best to get in touch with IRIS directly, I think that’s a question only the dev will be able to answer.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best! : )
Nice Review!
Thanks very much Desmo, I’m glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
Great review. Quick question: how do you get rid of the pilot animation in the cockpit? In VR, when starting the flight, you are seated in the front cockpit with the animated pilot. You mentioned going to the MSFS load manager and selecting the option to turn pilot animations on/off. I just see the pilot weights. Do I load 0 weight to get rid of the pilot animations?
Hello Richard, apologies for the slow reply (I'm just catching up on the comments now).
You mean to say that you're in the front seat, with the pilot also animated in the front seat? If so, that's odd - the pilot should only be animated in the opposing seat. Are you using custom views, that can sometimes cause the issue you describe?
Indeed, setting the pilot's weight to zero, will remove the visible model externally - I'm not sure whether this translates to the internal model though. Worth looking at the MFD options page also, since pilot visibility can be turned off there (again, I'm not sure whether this applies internally, or only externally).
I hope that helps a little. I'm glad you enjoyed the review! Thanks for watching and all the best : )
Flying a couple of nav trips, from A to B.
Even with the FMC - the nav you can do is very basic. waypoint numbers does not match, but at least it will change to next wp as you pass over it. Not even close to a real nav simulation.
Guess highest priority is fun messing around the airport, not navigate to next. Hope updates will fix it. I am not asking for study level, but kind of msfs Garmin GPS, level of detail and function.
Another update I like to see, is the HUD brightness. There is a bright knob, but it does not work. Just shift color to dark green will be fine for me.
Lucky - you do not airspeed info approach. Put the flight path cue on the threshold, and use AOA indicator for speed adjustment. IRIS seems to have done this right.
Looking forward for updates - this can be a very fine aircraft in the future.
Yes, the NAV system is indeed pretty sub-par øystein. The PC-21 is unfortunately one of the many addons making use of default Asobo avionics and paying the price for it. Hopefully as Working Title continue to improve the programming of these sorts of things, it will drag up the functionality of many 3rd party addons also.
If memory serves me correctly, there is also an adjustment for the HUD brightness (might be worth having another look) - I seem to recall turning down the HUD brightness quite a bit for this flight.
Cheers again : )
Another brilliant review!
Is there a Roulettes livery?
Yes there is. :)
Thanks very much Matt, I'm really glad you enjoyed it : )
There is indeed a Roulettes livery. I can't recall whether the product comes with one as standard, but certainly the livery is available over on Flightsim.to at any rate.
I hope that helps. All the best!
Thanks for offering up the help Tortue, much appreciated! : )
Thanks for the great video. Just one question, how do you operate the airbrake?
Thanks very much, Matt. My pleasure on the video - I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I’m afraid, I’m not too sure re the airbrake. I actually didn’t realise that the PC-21 has one haha; typically, I operate the airbrake on any aircraft, using a hardware keybind so, unfortunately I couldn’t tell you where the cockpit control might be. . . sorry.
Apologies, that I can’t be of more help on that one. I do hope you manage to get things figured out. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I finally sussed it. There is no control in the cockpit, you have to bind an input for “Toggle Spoiler”
Great video! For some reason, after my flight and shutdown, when I try to go back to the main menu, it's kicks me off MSFS. Have you experience the same thing? Cheers and thanks for the video.
Cheers Jherc, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I can’t say I’ve experienced the same thing myself. In fact, I often have the opposite issue - sometimes when I try and shut the sim down, it refuses to close haha.
I’m afraid I have no idea what might be causing the problem for you there. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
I do hope you manage to get things sorted! Thanks again and all the best : )
The disadvantage is that there is no function of the side mirror in the cockpit.
Yes, the mirrors are a shame, but that seems to be a limitation of the sim unfortunately (for now at least).
All the best! : )
Does it come with many liveries? A RAF one?
The product comes with a number of liveries CT, they are listed on the IRIS website (I’m afraid I can’t remember them off the top of my head); there’s no RAF livery, though there is an ETPS one. I suspect someone will create a 3rd party RAF repaint at some point though - if they haven’t done so already.
I hope that helps. All the best : )
Hoping for a PC-7
If planes through the game are like "downgraded" for console where do you recommend pc players get respectable mods from and who are the go to developers?
Hi Rick,
I have actually been producing an annual “Top 10” list, of what I consider to be the best payware aircraft for MSFS - you might well find that a good starting point : )
th-cam.com/video/rKn5D7ArpRg/w-d-xo.html
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations appreciate ya friend! Happy flying!
Did you encounter the problem that the throttle could not be controlled when the automatic instrument landing?
Cancel A/P also
Hello 廖振宇, apologies for the slow reply.
Hmm, that's strange: I didn't encounter any such issues myself but to be fair, I've only flown a couple of ILS approaches in the aircraft, so perhaps I simply got lucky.
I'm not really sure what might be causing that behaviour I'm afraid. Best to get in touch with IRIS perhaps, just in case they aren't aware of the problem.
Sorry I can't be of more help on that one. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you
Do you know how to import custom maps in MFD? What is the manual mentioned in the video?
You’re welcome!
I don’t believe it’s yet possible to add custom maps, I think that’s a functionality to be added at a later date. The manual is included with the download itself, in a separate folder.
Cheers : )
Thanks.
Thanks Phobia, my absolute pleasure! : )
Just one thing after further review.
90 rotate speed includes smoke pods?
Hello into the blue simulations, I have a request if you can make a tutorial on Head tracking with the "Smoothtrack app." and with Opentrack (they both work together.) if you can review it with a indepth review and settings please! :) please!
Hi CV,
Thanks very much for the suggestion, sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you (I'm just catching up on my comment replies now). Unfortunately, I know very little about either Smoothtrack or Opentrack, so I don't really feel I would be in a position to make a tutorial / offer up any advice. I have been a long time TrackIR user, so that's really all that I am familiar with I'm afraid.
Apologies on that one. All the best! : )
Is there a way to hide the pilot model in the cockpit?
Hello Janet, apologies for the slow reply (I'm just catching up on comments now).
I'm not 100% sure on that one and don't have the aircraft to hand right at this moment, but removing the pilot's weight, removes the external visual model, I would be very surprised if the same weren't true of the internal model; it's also quite possible that such an option is available via the MFD's.
Sorry I can't offer anything more concrete up at the moment; I can check for you at a later date, if the functionality is a real deal-breaker?
Cheers and all the best : )
So is this version better than the Deimos Inc. version?
Very much so Dave. Admittedly I don’t own the Deimos PC-21, but I do own a couple of their other addons and they’re very much towards the lower end of the fidelity spectrum (that’s not knocking Deimos, those sorts of addons have their place in the hobby). The IRIS PC-21 isn’t study level, but it’s a reasonably convincing rendition of the aircraft and I suspect it is significantly superior to the Deimos version in terms of graphics, systems, flight model, sounds etc.
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Can we have charts for New Zealand? I mean we do exist
Do you mean for the mapping Rachel? Currently it is only 2 locations in Oz that are covered (the rest of the planet has been ignored haha). Apparently in due course, IRIS will create an application where you can add your own : )
bruuuh it's on sale till July 31!
Haha, great TLV, there are indeed some good sales on at the moment! Just be advised, being a military aircraft, some functionality may have been removed from the PC21, in order for the addon to be sold on the Marketplace.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
I can absolutely understand your rating but to be honest - to have a model up to a high standard with all things working like gauges, instruments, flight model and evrything - it takes a LOOOOT of time and as much as I like your videos it is sometimes a Breaker - I guess u know what I mean... Dont want to critisize you nor the creators!
Hi A360,
I can very much see your point and without a doubt it takes a tonne of effort to produce a product of this quality! I think you (and I'm sure many others) perhaps misunderstand my critique though: Very rarely, do the issues that I point out bother me personally, the same is true of the PC-21 here. I review any product, simply trying to give an accurate representation of both the good and the bad and any negatives that I do point out, are highlighted based on what I know will bother others. The texturing for example; it doesn't bother me in the slightest and I think the aircraft looks great, but I know those that really have an eye for the smaller details, will probably pick up on the deficiencies (and indeed there are a number of comments along those lines).
I try to make my reviews all about showcasing the product as best I can and then letting the viewer draw their own conclusions.
I hope that clarifies my position a bit. Cheers and all the best! : )
where do I find the manual?
Hello Wayne,
The documentation is included with the download (you should get both an installer and a separate folder with the manual in it).
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
I really don't know why you worry about software "being downgraded " for Xbox. Many PC owners have to downgrade their settings because they don't run a top shelf PC with a 3090 or 4090 in it. Same result in my book. It gives the end user a choice to have a usable and flyable sim which doesn't stutter itself to death.
Yes but it does set hard limit for the graphical fidelity, which ideally would ideally would not be there.
Indeed. The Series X is akin to a 3700x with a 6700xt (a bit less, but it's the closest), which is pretty good, btw.
You talk about choice yet really you are talking about taking it away from those that can have it. There’s no doubt been a negative effect caused by devs having to limit things for console, so it is a concern, this plane could have been better if it wasn’t for that.
Well I don’t lose sleep over it Zobra haha, but as a couple of the other comments allude to (and your own in fact), its really about having the “choice”. Setting the Xbox’s hardware as the “upper limit”, obviously hamstrings what can be done in the sim. I have nothing against the console to be clear and I’m really happy to see a whole new audience within the hobby, but ideally products should be created for the PC and then “downgraded” to the console, otherwise we aren’t getting the most out of MSFS. For sure, some products can be quite taxing on even the most stout of PC setups, but that has always been the case in flight simulation. Offering a “choice”, means giving the ability to downgrade, not setting the standards at a fixed “lower” level. I run somewhat “modest” hardware myself, so I’m familiar with having to make trade-offs, but I’d rather do that on my end than the developers.
I hope that clarifies my viewpoint. All the best : )
I am waiting for majestic Dash 8
That would indeed be excellent Steve! I never actually flew the Majestic Dash 8 myself, but I’ve only ever heard great things.
All the best : )
how do you learn the use of the fmc? I can't find it in the manual😅😮😢
Hi Luigi,
That's a good question haha. Unfortunately, the PC-21's FMC is somewhat generic (making use of default Asobo avionics), so I suppose IRIS just assumed everyone knew what they were doing with it. The FMC is however customised just enough, that other tutorials for FMC setup won't quite apply. The PC-21 FMC seems to be a bit of a mix between and Boeing and Airbus FMC, so if you watch a couple of tutorials on how to set those up, you should be able to muddle your way through the PC-21's setup thereafter haha. Far from ideal of course. . .
I hope that proves to be of some help. Cheers and all the best! : )
I was disappointed by the cockpit textures. Way to simple, lack of shadows, details and depth. Outside the plane is a sexy beauty but was matters to me is the look of my workplace as a pilot. Well, maybe there will be an update.
Hi Henry,
Ah ok, fair enough. I didn't really feel the same way myself (we all have different tastes though). I thought the cockpit was modelled / textured quite nicely for the most part; not the best I've seen by any means, but decent given the price. Once again, IRIS have quite openly stated that (for better or worse) the addon has been created to meet Xbox standards, so I suspect that's why some of the visuals fall short of the standards one might reasonably expect.
Cheers, all the best! : )
Bad FM. Like the T1
How are the FPS any issues?
I can’t remember exact numbers Clay, but I don’t recall the addon having any major issues. I did cover FPS at the end of the video (around the 45 minute mark), should you wish to know exactly how the PC-21 stacks up.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Excellent video! Yep, like you, when I tried a spin, it was difficult to induce, and impossible to recover. Sound wise, when I hold the brakes, put full power, keep holding the brakes, after a few seconds, the sound seems to loop. Also, when I switch off the engine from the cockpit, then go in outside view, the sound is gone! Left of the HUD the green light is a bit turquoise. Mollis is pronounced Molice, like Police. But the PC-21 is a joy to fly. Perfect for displays like here th-cam.com/video/JH02aMGsWqQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks very much Raymond, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yes, the aircraft definitely has a few issues, some of which I believe IRIS are aware of (the lack of sound when switching views for example), but it is undoubtedly great fun! Thank for the info re Mollis also - I was wondering whether I was pronouncing it correctly (I usually get these things wrong haha).
Nice display! Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Glad you liked the display. The PC-21 is great fun, and perfect to fly to the limits. I did my own challenge at a small airstrip near Verbier in Switzerland: th-cam.com/video/QtPjgrcXE2s/w-d-xo.html
do you use tobii eye tracker
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Hi Daren,
I do not. As Stewie posted, I use TrackIR for the head-tracking. I’ve been considering looking into Tobii though; I hear good things and TrackIR does have its limitations.
I hope that info is of use. Cheers and all the best! : )
Textures dont look correct. It looks downgraded? Sorry this is a down step 2+ years after MSFS 2020??? Got to try harder...time is moving on and we dont want to revert to FSX/FS9? You charge full price you get critique if you poor?
The textures are indeed somewhat downgraded David. As mentioned, the textures have apparently been kept purposefully lower resolution in certain areas, to make the PC-21 Xbox compatible. Hardly ideal of course and it wouldn't have been my preference, but IRIS are at least quite upfront about this fact, so people can make their purchasing decision accordingly.
All the best!
9:42
no view passage .msfs loose .thank you .dcs and xplane 12 option passage view. msfs no .
no 4 k textures... a no go .. only to run on XBOX SCHADE therefor i buy the TEXAN II a from AOA simulation for X-Plane 11and 12 later
That’s fair Propfan. Certainly, the only way devs will learn what people do / don’t find acceptable, is if we vote with our wallets. Personally the texturing of the PC-21 doesn’t bother me, but I can see why it might bother someone else.
I hope you’re enjoying the Texan II. All the best! : )
Thanks for answer. Are you fixed on reviewing MFS 2020 or eventually review planes for XP 11 or XP 12 ? would be great ! You and CGaviator are my favourits because you are PROFIS we said in Germany.
You’re most welcome Propfan!
No, I’m certainly not fixed on MSFS. The original intent was to have a much greater variety of simming content, but then I seem to have gravitated towards Microsoft’s sim and alas the TH-cam algorithm makes it very hard to do anything else thereafter. I do have some X-Content though, with a couple more X-Plane vids pre-recorded, I even have a DCS vid coming up haha. I was planning on taking more of a look at X-Plane 12, but I’m just waiting for the sim to mature a little further.
Ah well thanks very much for the kind words. I very much like CGAviators channel also - other than the fact it makes me incredibly envious, because I would have loved to have flown a Hawk around the Mach Loop for real! XD
Cheers : )
I bought the cheaper version, $15
Thanks! Enjoy your procedures. - Guess you are a instructor in a real simulator (or at least score high on tests)
Tucano was a favorite in fs98 - so I had to check this out. No high hopes as default Iris aircraft in P3d was pure junk. But very positive at the price, instant buy.
I am more disappointed in sound than you are.
Propeller beating air is missing. Going from feather to idle fine pitch should be a more distinct roar.
At takeoff power the sound should be closer to propeller, than pure jet whine. Almost as flysimware Cessna 414 at TO power (even this is a piston engine).
Anyone sitting in a F-50 , DHC twin Otter, Q400, Embraer and similar commuter aircraft (with Pratt&Whitney turboprop) know what I mean.
Or just search PW pt6 sound on the net. Example - th-cam.com/video/pTrUmC8xvqw/w-d-xo.html - th-cam.com/video/CaiAtjGcfwI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks very much once again øystein! I'm not a military instructor (alas), but I did do okay at the aptitude tests, yes haha.
Sorry to hear that you aren't a fan of the sounds. As I often point out in my reviews, I don't really have a very good ear for this sort of thing, so I'm often at odds with the audience, when it comes to my opinions on aircraft sounds haha. IRIS certainly have an "iffy" background, but their standards have come on a long way over the years. I enjoyed their G115 very much and I feel the PC-21 is better yet. The aircraft is far from perfect, but I think it's a thoroughly decent offering given the price. I know that IRIS are aware of some sound issues with the addon, so hopefully we'll see general improvements also.
Cheers and all the best!
airspeed...that's a classic
Sorry Mike, I'm afraid I don't quite follow haha?
History is repeating it self... Downgrading to fit for consols..... Damn, dont support those consols.... I am so annoyed over the excistens of consolt just for pc software not to be living for it full potential.... Is this just a issue I have ???
It’s certainly not just you Chocks, though plenty are enjoying the sim on the console of course and overall I actually think the Xbox has proven to be a good thing for the sim / hobby. It is most certainly a shame to see any product downgraded for the console (ideally there should have been a separate PC version of the addon also), but luckily most of the study level jets (and the majority of decent products actually) have not seen this treatment. The console brought a tonne of new people / interest into the hobby; I don’t think MSFS would have been nearly as successful if the sim had remained PC only. Of course we don’t want to see the sim turned into a game (I certainly don’t at any rate), but neither do we want to see Microsoft dumping the franchise again - the console market has made MSFS very profitable, so hopefully we should see Microsoft continue to support the sim well into the future (with the sim relying on cloud data / servers, as soon as Microsoft withdraw support, MSFS is most likely dead).
That’s my take on it anyway. There are of course upsides and downsides to the whole situation.
Cheers, all the best! : )
So the weather is rubbish, I've just paid £4.75 for a tin of corned beef, (yes, £4.75!!!!!), my doctor says I've got an 8.56% chance of a heart attack in the next ten years unless I live exclusively on lettuce, the wife won't let me put the heating on to save the planet and Loganair have stopped flying to Norwich so I've got to bloody drive.....And you want me to have a happy Halloween??😀
Look on the bright side John, today is probably as good as it gets. . .
Give it another 10 years; that lettuce will probably be costing you £4.75, corned beef will probably be a luxury food item, you won't be allowed to drive your car anymore, unless it's powered by compost and we'll probably all be living underwater - give it long enough and none of us will be able to complain anymore anyway XD
Goose NOOOOOO!!!
I'm afraid at least one Goose was harmed during the making of this video haha XD
The robbing of Peter to pay Paul (downscaling graphics on PC models to satisfy XBox players) is bad practice in my opinion. Flight simulation should be PC-based only or alternately for those who can't afford a PC rig, a separate offering for XBox users should be included ... or take XBox out of the genre. XBox isn't for serious flight sim enthusiasts - you don't have XBox hand controllers in real aircraft and therefore XBox fails to simulate this area of flying for real. If one isn't going to simulate/replicate real flight in every possible aspect then there are other things one can do to amuse oneself. PC users are being cheated to satisfy the 'others'. I won't come back to read the incoming rockets XBox users will send my way, but go ahead ... vent your spleen.