Thank you. I was able to test it at the IWA and had a big grin on my face. OMG how quickly the magazine was empty. I'm not a big HPA fan, but the “MUST HAVE” thought is very strong here. Let's see when I can have it in Germany.
lets see, if it is imported to Germany, because it looks a lot like an 8 round burst ar15 above 0,5J. And lets wait how many fields ban it, because ppl. are sad when getting hit by 8 bbs.
@@marcoviebrock1550 “And let's wait and see how many fields ban it because people are sad when they get hit by 8 bullets.” I think we already have the “problem” with the speed trigger HPA players :-D
@@BB2K-Airsoft speedtriggers work the same on hpa and saeg. In addition to that you can use single shot on those. The shotgun only has the 8 round single tap or 16 round doubletap.
With any gun there is a risk of hitting the suppressor. But we have successfully made one by just making the center bore slightly larger. Note that the front threads are dimensionally correct for the real gun, not 14mm ccw like standard guns, so suppressor will have to be custom made for the gun.
Got this on sale on Evike & the First thing I am doing is ripping that stock off & running my custom 250 round mags mags that are basically a EPM1 inner mag inside of a .308 outer magazine body in order to have higher mag capacity.
Thank you for the highest quality airsoft replicas in the world. It still doesn't make sense to me that there is no airsoft company that can match the quality of the exterior and interior of the MTW.
Thanks for confirming I’m not crazy about acetech not lighting a stream of bbs. I have the G&G shotgun and I was having the same issue and no one believed me when I said try a T238 nano. Someone said that worked well.
Definitely would buy one of these but really concerned about the mag capacity, feels like this shotgun won't be able to work in a whole 5-6 hour game with 1 hour rounds properly
I understand it won't be usable in any m4 body, but I would still like to see if it would be possible to order one separate from a full kit, for... Projects
Two things: I presented this to 5 fields in California and all five said no to this gun because it was essentially a full auto gun. The caveat is they may allow it in the future but it was a hard know at this point when presented with videos and information on this gun. Why did you choose this platform and not the AK platform?
3:18 "PER BB" sooo let's say you're 10% more efficient per bb, but you're firing 800% as many bbs as a normal gun. So my bet remains, it's an absolute giga airhog. (And that's okay, it's just physics in the end, but please be honest with the marketing)
And some sites have already communicated with us and are allowing it. Like with everything else not every field is the right use case for a specific product. It would be better if fields waited till they actually got to see first hand the system to make an informed decision, but we don’t get to control what everyone does, we just provide the best information we can and make ourselves available to help fields figure out how best to use the technology.
I understand that there's no replicas that you can drop this engine into but I still would like to buy one so I can adapt a existing replica to use this engine 😵
all bbs through one barrel will fly crookedly, even on the video you can see the spread is too big for CQB the same problem as FLAC-10 and the same problem as G&G ESG-10 you can't accurately hit at least one ball at 15m in the head that crawled out from behind cover, unlike 3 barrels where they fly in a bunch and even 6 balls still the accuracy is much better
That’s not what I said. I said if you shoot a bb at 1J it will lob around 250 feet, which is about right depending on the weight . Not that it is in any way usable range.
When other mags are made it doesn’t change the fact that a field or event can restrict which mags are allowed just like is done all the time with other types of guns in Airsoft.
I don't understand how nerfing the magazine makes it less OP. It isn't OP to begin with. Nerfing the mag doesnt really do anything either because you can just carry more mags...
unfortunately it will be a failure + most cqb filed will simply not allow you to play, since it is almost the same as shooting a burst with a regular HPA systemyes, your system is different, but at a high rate of fire there will be no difference between a burst or what you have, same stuff as 40 mike🤣
Mhm better body, hpa (don't care about blowback) . RIS / KYMODE for grip and optics. Better magazine, lighter, more shots, more bbs And it's for cqb .. no need for 60m ..
@kroxithepanda3824 can get all that for the saiga. Get mlok handguard picatini rails Hpa adapters. M4 mag conversation. The £1100 price tag isn't justified for the gen 12.
*Immediately Googles "308 drum mag"
yes
LOL 😆
You'd do better looking for a 200ci air tank
Thank you. I was able to test it at the IWA and had a big grin on my face. OMG how quickly the magazine was empty. I'm not a big HPA fan, but the “MUST HAVE” thought is very strong here. Let's see when I can have it in Germany.
lets see, if it is imported to Germany, because it looks a lot like an 8 round burst ar15 above 0,5J. And lets wait how many fields ban it, because ppl. are sad when getting hit by 8 bbs.
@@marcoviebrock1550 “And let's wait and see how many fields ban it because people are sad when they get hit by 8 bullets.” I think we already have the “problem” with the speed trigger HPA players :-D
@@BB2K-Airsoft speedtriggers work the same on hpa and saeg. In addition to that you can use single shot on those. The shotgun only has the 8 round single tap or 16 round doubletap.
Thank you ALL for everything you do
Thanks for doing the QA. If I were to give my two cents, I think this engine would be excellent within a pump action platform.
Great video really enjoyed this one so excited for the shotgun when it is released ❤
If I put a silencer. Is there a possibility of hitting the silencer? or can i use it smoothly?
With any gun there is a risk of hitting the suppressor. But we have successfully made one by just making the center bore slightly larger. Note that the front threads are dimensionally correct for the real gun, not 14mm ccw like standard guns, so suppressor will have to be custom made for the gun.
@ Yes, as far as I understand in the videos, the bbs go scattered. I would love to see a video of you trying with a silencer
4:37 don't care, I can make it fit. I just want this engine 😵
Love the idea. Waiting on a standalone engine tho for a USAS-type build
Got this on sale on Evike & the First thing I am doing is ripping that stock off & running my custom 250 round mags mags that are basically a EPM1 inner mag inside of a .308 outer magazine body in order to have higher mag capacity.
Thank you for the highest quality airsoft replicas in the world.
It still doesn't make sense to me that there is no airsoft company that can match the quality of the exterior and interior of the MTW.
Thank you for supporting us so we can. 😊
Thanks for confirming I’m not crazy about acetech not lighting a stream of bbs. I have the G&G shotgun and I was having the same issue and no one believed me when I said try a T238 nano. Someone said that worked well.
I like it but would love to see a pump action version
I’m so doing another John wick gauntlet game mode
And doing the scene in John wick 4 with the wolverine gen 12 for a Airsoft game mode
Would it be possible to set this up with an IGL so that you can hook it up to a standard HPA tank setup?
yes!
Definitely would buy one of these but really concerned about the mag capacity, feels like this shotgun won't be able to work in a whole 5-6 hour game with 1 hour rounds properly
I understand it won't be usable in any m4 body, but I would still like to see if it would be possible to order one separate from a full kit, for... Projects
Guaranteed they'll be selling the engine, just that they're not going to be selling a 'drop-in ready' engine like with their other types.
I just pre-order mine 😊
Will the 123 batter girp fit on this?
Yes it will.
Longer inner barrel , more precise?
Are you guys going to make an Ak platform any time soon?
Two things: I presented this to 5 fields in California and all five said no to this gun because it was essentially a full auto gun. The caveat is they may allow it in the future but it was a hard know at this point when presented with videos and information on this gun.
Why did you choose this platform and not the AK platform?
Welllllll. It looks like I’m saving up for a shotty boi
will the charging handle work?
3:18 "PER BB" sooo let's say you're 10% more efficient per bb, but you're firing 800% as many bbs as a normal gun.
So my bet remains, it's an absolute giga airhog.
(And that's okay, it's just physics in the end, but please be honest with the marketing)
Some sites in the UK are already banning this. :(
And some sites have already communicated with us and are allowing it. Like with everything else not every field is the right use case for a specific product. It would be better if fields waited till they actually got to see first hand the system to make an informed decision, but we don’t get to control what everyone does, we just provide the best information we can and make ourselves available to help fields figure out how best to use the technology.
Yeah yeah yeah. But what about the real question?? Is it compatible with the heretics labs tank grip??? 😂 That would make a sic combo...
Okay hear me out, I have 2 ideas. Make one that shoots 2 shots AN-94 or one that shoots 3 H&K G11
MLOK please?
4:37 okay but, can you take out the engine and PUT any other of yours to shoot like a "rifle" ? 😎😎
I understand that there's no replicas that you can drop this engine into but I still would like to buy one so I can adapt a existing replica to use this engine 😵
all bbs through one barrel will fly crookedly, even on the video you can see the spread is too big for CQB the same problem as FLAC-10 and the same problem as G&G ESG-10 you can't accurately hit at least one ball at 15m in the head that crawled out from behind cover, unlike 3 barrels where they fly in a bunch and even 6 balls still the accuracy is much better
Would love a adjustable amount of Bb's per shot. From 3 to 8. For CQB in the Netherlands 3 shots maximum.
So now the question I want to know is did Rich eat the whole pie or cheesecake?
That Soul patch isn't it man!
But shotgun looks cool!
Good concept but it will most likely get banned at most sites unfortunately in Europe
our field will allow it:) shut up and take my money already bro
250ft 1J stock gun, yeah right
That’s not what I said. I said if you shoot a bb at 1J it will lob around 250 feet, which is about right depending on the weight . Not that it is in any way usable range.
Also, thank you for intentionally nerfing the gun, unfortunate that other people are just going to make other mags to make it OP anyway, but meh
When other mags are made it doesn’t change the fact that a field or event can restrict which mags are allowed just like is done all the time with other types of guns in Airsoft.
I don't understand how nerfing the magazine makes it less OP. It isn't OP to begin with. Nerfing the mag doesnt really do anything either because you can just carry more mags...
@@Yankee2-2Nomadperception sometimes matters more than reality. And the mags are quite large. So yes you can carry more mags…up to a certain point.
unfortunately it will be a failure + most cqb filed will simply not allow you to play, since it is almost the same as shooting a burst with a regular HPA systemyes, your system is different, but at a high rate of fire there will be no difference between a burst or what you have, same stuff as 40 mike🤣
Why would I buy this over a TM Saiga 12? Saiga is cheaper and has better performance, saiga 60 meters+, plus make it tri shot!
Mhm better body, hpa (don't care about blowback) . RIS / KYMODE for grip and optics.
Better magazine, lighter, more shots, more bbs
And it's for cqb .. no need for 60m ..
@kroxithepanda3824 can get all that for the saiga. Get mlok handguard picatini rails Hpa adapters. M4 mag conversation. The £1100 price tag isn't justified for the gen 12.
@@WIIGGYX but then you are at the same price range
its ok ill take one for free from you guys