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There is a huge problem with this, in that many players (especially if they have done tutorials like this and are just running scales and licks ad nauseum), is they can't play musically, and don't understand how solos fit songs. Also, since becoming a good and versatile rhythm player is a key to being a well rounded soloist...most (what I call) "wankers and riffers" can't play well with others and don't how music really works. Most of what you do in a band anyway is rhythm or fills to enhance what other players may do. 10 percent may be solos. So...
Then just focus on chord changes instead of scales. Its like working out, leg days arm days , chord days scale days. Just hyper focus on 1 skill at a time is all he was saying
@@NOPEACE777 You don't get the point. Learning to be a good, solid, well rounded and creative rhythm player is a key aspect of learning ro be a creative and musical soloist. The two things need to work together. Learning songs--and in so doing working out, patterns, connections, progression models, etc.--help you learn a vocabulary and language really. People who miss this, really lack all the elements that make them musicians. This has always been true, but I think it's getting worse...in large part because of how people are learning now. But...wank on I guess
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Learning songs has given me a lot of fuel for my playing. I learned what chord progressions work best and what scales to use. I am curious enough to move notes around to hear what they sound like in other places and trying the song in the key of my voice. Exercises have a purpose, but I work and have limited time, so I go for the biggest return on my time invested. Where I get stuck on my song, that becomes my exercise.
I think Zakk Wylde solos are a good example of many techniques in a single solo. no more tears for example
One of my favorite players and solos…early ozzy is a big influence on me when I started playing guitar 15 years ago
To run with this analogy, football players intensively practice their individual skills AND play a full game every weekend with massive enjoyment whether they are total masters or not. So there is a pleasure in playing and performing the whole song (even for a professional) and yes one can identify where the challenges are to work out. I think my point is that some players are not just doing improvisation in solos, but are also interested in a full performance of a song. For soloing I get it, especially if the goal is unique personal improv. Singer songwriter song performance obviously is not the focus of your great teaching. One can bring great personal interpretation to a song and make it uniquely yours. I am unusual in that I have one foot in each camp. Terrific video though as usual and very useful.
Last night I was working on froggin bullfish, It starts out with some tapping, and since I'm not great at tapping. It was a chance to work on moving shapes across the neck.
Again? You have to learn the style that you're interested in. And that could include songs from artists that you like what they're doing, Everyone i've ever known does that.
Tired of polarized guitar instruction videos. Do THIS don’t do THAT. If you’re an at home player not looking to gig then good luck learning what it takes. If you want to play professionally then you’ll need to learn it all especially ear training and dictation.
I feel like learning things out of your confort zone can teach you a lot and help you improve, you might be able to steal a thing or two from it
Absolutely agree. It seems that on the whole I improve more overall when I’m learning/practicing just outside my comfort zone. And while I don’t want to “live” there, I find I require it to genuinely advance.
@@nunyaBusiness152 I actually spend most of Time improvising so... But yeah learning songs and other people's solo ll teach you a lot, you should probably try it, definitly won't stop you from being original 🤣
I actually disagree with this. Do this AND learn songs. After all... it's about playing music.
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You are right.
I play music better with songs.Im no good with noodling and senseless solos
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That's what Claus said... His point was that you should be studying specific parts of a song so that you know what skills you want to focus on and then spend the majority of your "practice time" working on those skills one at at time until you have mastered them all. You're jamming time can be playing whatever makes you happy; jamming, learning new solos, improvising, writing, etc.
Me too.
I’ve been playing guitar since 1985. I’m 55 years old. My issue isn’t technique - it’s memorizing solos note for note. My memory isn’t what it used to be. 😂
Basically he’s saying stop having fun with guitar and turn guitar playing into a chore. Horrible advice.
Whenever I learn solo within a song, it generally coincides with whatever specific techniques in working on. I learn it from start to finish of course, however, when I hit that first lick or pattern that's cause for stumble, I forget the solo and work on just that particular pattern. Could be for WEEKS until it becomes unconsciously competent. Then I'll pick up on the solo where I left off and rinse, and repeat. May take six months to learn to completion, but once I do, everything has improved. I employ Claus method for learning. Work on it for a time, 'Forget' it, and come back to it. It's not very often I'll push for speed. My focus is accuracy and articulation. It works. Much of getting better at improvising, at least for myself, isn't as much the physicality of doing it, but building up an unconscious auditory memory bank of note combinations. Once your capable of doing certain moves physically, you can repeat not only for continued dexterity, but specifically how it sounds. You'll know the moment it's in there. You'll feel the dopamine hit. Rinse, repeat.
Great advice! I noticed a significant improvement in my playing when I stopped trying to learn long solos. It's all about the technique.
People learn by doing... mostly. I'm pretty old but my Uncle Tough me "Sweet Home Alabama" to teach me how G C and D work together than Fly By Night to learn D A F and C go together and how that open box 1 works.. and ect and ect.. it helps keep your student engaged.
So Lennon, McCartney, Jagger, Richards, Leiber and Stoller, Holland-Dozier-Holland, Carol King, Paul Simon and scores of others all learned and memorized hundreds of songs before they started writing their own stuff. More idiotic click bait to make a simplistic point.
The sports analogy here is spot on. It’s exactly like that.
I’m in a cover band with about 70 songs in the repertoire. Maybe half of them have a solo of some kind. Of those I only play a handful note for note like the studio recording. All of those are short and iconic, so it’s satisfying for the audience to hear that (Don’t Stop Believin’ as a representative example). The remainder, as you say in this video, is “rock n roll”. Improvised, never the same twice, exciting and fun for me, and the audience feels that excitement. It’s an adventure. And I couldn’t do improvisation worth a damn until I started drilling sequences and lick building blocks.
I think that practicing improvising and riff creation is important.
But learning other guitar player's songs will help you learn techniques and learn ideas that you can use to create your own music and create your own sound.
Learn all you can from all players that inspire you.
I know exactly what he. means. In fact when I first seen stop learning songs in big red letters i guessed what he was talking about right away
I play the chords as close to the original as i possibly can...for solos i play vertical scales. Thats From neck down to bridge direction i first learned minor pentatonic all 5 patterns all over the neck. Then if you only add 2 more notes to that scale then its super easy to turn 5 note pentatonic into the 7note dorian mode or natural minor. Whichever you choose. I play dorian. I never learn a long solo note for note cuz its wasted practice time. Cuz If you dont constantly play it you will forget it. Plus you will learn faster by improvising leads from a scale that you have beat into your head
the guy in the band is just improvising too...most of them dont even play their own solos the same as on the record when they play a show cuz they cant remember them. . I stay in the dorian and try to play in the style of the player. Only leads i will memorize are the ones that define a song.and short runs Like the beginning of needle and the spoon. Or crazy train. Or working man. Etc. Then the long lead in middle of working man or any other song i just improvise my dorian mode in key of whatever the song is in. I will copy parts of those long lead runs only if i can pull it off with notes in the dorian mode😮
I've learned so much from Jonas Bryssling's compositions, you have to learn the style your interested in.
I did this just did scale exercises its boring and uninspiring learn songs and solos then break them down and connect them to the pentatonic scales.
And what about metronome practice to develop your coordination and you're timing?
Really it is all about what your objectives are playing the guitar. For me lewrning to play and sing the songs i love.
I agree 💯. I have gotten so much better overall after focusing on specific things.
What do you think of Jerry Carcia's soloing?
Unless you just want to be in a cover band as your greatest achievement.
I see your point man. But this should be titled, stop "JUST" learning songs.
Thanks for the suggestion 😊
Agree with this but it’s just not as much fun!
I just finished learning the 3 solo's in KD Abigail. Loved every minute of learning it
Andy Laroque is the man.
Surely the whole point of playing guitar is because it’s fun and because you like making sounds you like the sound of? And we all started or at least the majority started wanting to recreate our favourite bands and guitarists sounds. If you want to learn songs, Do so! Improvise and all that too but just don’t want makes you happy
This dont apply guitar heroes like Slash, EVH etc who never really practised guitar playing, they just played and got very good. In one interview Slash was asked how do you warm up before gig and he said he just plays something and I was wondering this before I listened him and thought best warm up is just play something lightly and then get bit more aggressive, but use all your fingers.
Other thing that I recall from Slashs book was that he dont know theory, when young Steve Lukather should him few scales and said this is all you need and that was his guitar lesson. Probably he showed pentatonic major and minor and major scale... and then just add some notes if you like the sound and I think thats all you need to be a rock/heavy player.. any opinions?
If you really believe Slash doesn't know any theory, I have a bridge to sell you. You seem VERY gullible. I don't trust ANYTHING any artist says. 99% of the time, they're full of shit. So Slash or X guitar hero said this and you take their word for it?
Example, look for a video where Slash, says he doesn't know the theory, and later he screws up and starts saying things like. "Well, to come up with good Solis, you have to play the chord tones, like here...this is a minor 7th triad and I'm keying in on the root and the 5th..or I can also go outside the scale, but use intervals" .
Yeah, he doesn't know theory.
He knows very basic theory and primarily plays within pentatonic boxes. So a lot of what you're saying is true. But I wouldn't say he's completely lacking in theoretical understanding.
slash is a good player. that said, there's more things you can do with pentatonics, like imposing them on different root notes, like playing d minor pentatonic over a c minor chord. this will give you a dorian mode quality, because the d minor pentatonic shares common notes with the c dorian scale.
@@lelandgaunt7130 Im sorry I meant like the time of Appetite recording. He suretanly have learnt some theory in the years. Actually I said Lukather taught him theory, did you missed that part?
@@rlawrence71 Did I say it some point that his totally lacking theory. I think EVH was at least in early years. Why would he lie a thing like this, it just doesnt make sense. One really doesnt nede theory if you have "Perfect" guitar scale-brain connection, so you know what you are going to hear when you fret this/these notes.
Very good perspective, learned hundreds of songs note for note in the beginning, for the last five years I have been only improvising to any song, backing track or even movie tracks, it makes you versatile and that is the only way you will ever be able to play with other musicians and have creative improvisation on demand with band members. I will say that there is a big market for copy bands "not much $$", but they do 100% need to know all the sets note for note, just depends what you want to do with guitar.
I think the headline is a little misleading in how people are interpreting it. It does make sense in that if you want to improve your skills you need to not rely on one or two ways of thinking you’re going to master guitar and be proficient. Just like with anything in life we need to step out of our comfort zone because things get boring after time and we feel like we’re beating from the same drum time and time again. If we want to enjoy learning as getting better everytime we learn something new it makes us feel good and like we have gone down a path we never thought we would ever be good at. And yes that deserves a Pat on our back as a reward. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain to be better at anything and everything.
I agree with the idea that sitting and repeating practices over will indeed make you better at soloing as I can say from experience but I never would've had any interest to learn that if I didn't learn hard songs that forced me to learn new techniques to begin with. However if you do want to be professional in your playing you have to be able to practice the small things to actually get the most benefit.
Most people's problem is trying to put it all into one song. It just ends up sounding like shit and everyone sounds the same. And you should play to mean what you play otherwise you just sound like you're constantly goofing off. Unless you plan on never playing what you wrote the same way twice.
i completely understand , I'm not young but I spent all of my time not trying to play songs but to be able to play everything so I'm trying to learn the skills to be able to play not everything of course it's not possible at this time but at least to do a solo on the genres I like
I agree entirely Claus the same methodology can be used throughout life as well, every student I have had came to me with the preconceived idea that if they could just learn this one song they will be a great guitar player, I had to explain to them what you are saying right now, that we can learn the song yes but theory, exercises, scales, technique etc are essential for 'guitar playing'.
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I agree man, I’ve spread myself too thin. I will be changing tactic. Thanks for your video
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Thank you man! , important reminder!
I can't seem to learn songs. I know all the chords. I can strum... Something in my brain just won't let me learn complete songs.. I feel it is what has held me back from being a competent guitar player.
do you use guitar pro? if not, try it out
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Couldn’t agree more
I teach the guitar; have 35-40 weekly students. This topic is a tricky one: students want songs; so if I expect to keep students - I gotta bring in the songs. Only my best students are willing to single things out; practice etudes and exercises…and jam to tracks.
The hope is: those that are hungry for the songs will eventually outgrow them and want to practice like a pro. I encourage them: “yeah, that’s a great Randy Rhoads solo…but what’s your sound or style?” And that sometimes works😉🙏🏻👍🏻🎸
yes but even masterful pros still love to play cover songs when they are moved to. This is NOT to negate your comment, but full song performance (maybe even your own) still has a treasured place in the life of a musician.
Thank you. I could have worded that better; “outgrow” isn’t the best choice…but developing a greater interest in other aspects of guitar and music…in addition to songs. I’ve learned amazing inspiring things in songs that have helped me develop my sound; so songs are a great tool. Bless you; keep jamming🙏🏻🎸
Why do you practice with so much distortion, I normally practice with more of a clean or blues tone. Should I be practicing my scales and licks with heavy distortion?
Do both. Not a right or wrong answer.
@@_Uh_Oh_Actually makes it easier to hide sloppy playing with distortion and other effects like delay/reverb.
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Thanks so much man!
Well Claus, the Regurgitators are regurgitating in the comments. You are absolutely right. If the Regurgitators had an original thought it would die of loneliness. Thank you for guiding people to excellence and away from the mediocre.
Playing other people's music is not a lesser activity. If so, then all of classical music is out the window. Also big band standards. Or treasured classic singer song writer songs that bring people so much joy. If your solitary goal is original improvisation only, then yes, thinking in terms of avoiding regurgitation is valid (even if the term is harsh). But this is not the only way to become a master. The question is "a master of what" you are passionate about and maybe even move other people who listen. Not criticizing you here, just commenting about my thoughts on it. :)
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No, I don't think I will claus
🤔 Brother, why would you get a tattoo on your arm with the words, "Latrine"?
It says Katrine is a private matter for this wonderful teacher.
@@scottjones6624 You have the perception and common sense of a box. 1st it was a joke and second, no one that wants "privacy" advertises on their body for the whole world to see. Go look up the word private in the dictionary.