Here are my Parameters:- Strength - Tie Mass - Meg Bulk - Meg Weaponry - Meg Technique - Meg Skill - Mosa Offence - Mosa Defense - Mosa Durability - Meg Endurance - Mosa Stamina - Mosa Attack Speed - Tie Dodging Speed - Mosa IQ - Mosa Battle IQ - Meg Experience - Meg Results :- Mosa - 9 Meg - 9 Hence, its a 50-50. Had Mosa had more experience in fighting other large animals, it would take this fight with very high difficulty.
I’m happy the Meg won but watching this analysis made me realize how badass the mosa really is!! I know the Meg novels do feature a mosasaurus but if this exact mosa was in the Meg movies it would have given Jonas and his team a run or in this case a swim for their money
I was most excited to see an actual battle unfold, and that it did, its so hard to find proper thrilling battles to the death between these amazing creatures, and this is a good one
The fight is an accurate because the sizes are in accurate according to the size chart. The mosasaurs measures in at 75 m long whereas in the movie the Maggie is only 55 m long.
Fantastic video!!! Can't wait for the future battles. I hope the introduce some of the creatures from monster hunter!!!! I think it would fit this channel perfectly
I wish you would’ve mentioned the Mosasaur’s pharyngeal jaws while talking about bite force and the Meg’s tail as a weak point. It may not have changed the outcome, but I think it would’ve still been worth mentioning
@GojiCenter You know; When I first found this channel and it's battle analysis, I thought there ' gonna be battle simulations at the ends. Now I'm glad that we finally see one; but I kinda wish to see simulations for the other battles too...Like in the previous battle analysis you've done in the past. Especially the ones with Kaiju.
If these animals were anything like their real-life counterparts: 1. They would stick to fighting in the shallows. 2. The mosasaur would come closer to tying the Meg in things like speed and senses.
As much as the outcome does make sense, I still think the in-gen mosa would win. The reason why, the mosasaurus is smart enough to know to stay close to the surface, let the Meg’s attack come, and then counter the attack with its superior agility. The megs lack of capable movement from side to side in the head make it even more vulnerable to attack from the side. And since the mosasaurus can move and turn in all directions faster then the Meg can, the Meg wouldn’t be able to counter. I get the Meg is faster and can escape, but I don’t see it being fast enough. And take into account if the mosasaurus with to rip into the Meg’s flippers or tail, the Meg would be much more effected by the attack than if the Meg ripped into the mosasaurus’ flippers. So for those reasons, I do think the mosasaurus would win this battle.
Great video, I just had a problem with the senses section, I was really hoping they would bring up some part where f the fight at the end of Jurassic world where presumably the mosasaur not only sensed a fight happening but “watched” it until the indo rex was not only close enough to the water but also injured, showing intelligence but also great senses to be able to keep up with that fight from in the water
Another thing is that due to the mosas lack of experience it would be less likely to understand the bill weakness of the meg. Especially since mosa has never experienced such a beast before.
I only have one thing to point out and it’s an indisputable fact that was more or less mentioned in the video but the estimate that Gojicenter used on the INGEN mosa is very conservative. If they went with the 120 ft estimate, well… I don’t think that Meg would have a tail after that first bite
This battle would have been much quicker. Megalodon landing a single bite to the side or face would tear off the jaw or a complete chunk from the side. A 40,000 lb bite force is enough to tear the mosa upper jaw off during such a fight. The bote in that scene was inaccurate. Biteforce, the jet propelled silent strike alone would end the mosa.
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I have to correct something you missed in the bite section. Mosasaur has a secondary inner top jaw. This jaw moved independently of it's primary jaws, and was used to shred prey while the primary jaws held the prey. If you look closely at the inner top mouth of INGEN's Mosa, you see it also has this second jaw. This makes the Mosa's jaws and biting strategy different. The meg will bite and back off, a hit and run tactic. Mosa will hang on for a bit, using it's inner jaw to shred any part it bites. This will most likely result in more blood loss, and potentially more debilitating damage. PS: Rewatching this, it's possible the mosa had Orca DNA, which would have drastically affected it's intelligence, allowing it to make smarter attack moves.
@@TRIOAntimations Then why the smaller sharks with much smaller teeth have no problem devouring the Meg in the 1st film let alone the Mo with much bigger teeth with much bigger bite area?
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My bet is the Meg is obviously that thing has a stronger bite force it can easily kill a mosasaurus with one bite no joke easy this it wouldn't be a fight the Megalodon killed the mosasaurus easily
Fun fact- in real life there's actually evidence to suggest that some mosasaurs specialised in ramming attacks! The mosasaur Tylosaurus was found to have an increasingly large and robust bony protuberance on its upper snout as it aged; this protuberance would have helped tylosaurs ram their prey with increasing amounts of force as they grew larger- perfect for a specialist big game hunter, while Mosasaurus' crushing bite would have made it a generalist of both large vertebrates and ammonites.
@@truthfulguy3687 There is no loser in opportunities to ramble about science to random people on the internet, only winners because they watched a random video and scrolled down and now know random facts about real-life tylosaurs in addition to what they learned in the video.
I play a game called Beasts of Bermuda, where you can be like, 20 different dinosaurs and the Mosasaurus is easily the biggest threat in the entire game. I remember walking along the beach with my herd, and a full sized Apatosaurus was grabbed and pulled back into the ocean by a mosa player. It was freaking insane.
I’d like to point out that if the mosa did stay around whales and communicate as you speculate then the whales would likely alert the mosa to the megs presence if not just put out distress signals. Which could give the mosa an advantage in either being prepared for an attack or set one up itself given its intelligence.
I would like to point out 1 detail and that is that the Meg’s fins are a huge weak point, even more so than the mosa’s flippers because if it loses even 1 whether it’s a pectoral fin or the dorsal fin it’s dead due to the inability to balance its self. It would basically just be spiraling like a football as it swims forward until it dies. Many animals use this weakness to hunt and/or defend against modern sharks
Sharks have been repeatedly observed thriving even after having severely damaged pectoral, dorsal, and even caudal fins. Though the meg would likely have difficulty adapting to loss of a fin at first, it would likely not be enough to significantly throw it out of control. In this fight, had the shark really dedicated after landing the tail bite, it would have severed it completely, making the fight end much sooner.
@@Tidal_TerrorI’ve seen a great white swimming with half its Caudal fin missing megalodons are all much more bulcky and more durable a mosa would be able to damage it but most like;y unable to rip it off even some sharks seen with missing fins are swimming comfortably most of the time onky times they don’t is when making shark turn which the meg wouldn’t be able to if a meg did loose a fin it would still be able to swim just turn slower
@@HungrySharkGamerthesharkojira a broken cartilage right in the fin would greatly affect it's ability to swim, and that's no ordinary opponent's bite, it's a mosasaurus'. I have seen em injured sharks with damaged tail only drift away spiraling after a duel with a baraccuda.
In my opinion, literally all of the monsters in the Monster Hunter franchise would be amazing in one of these videos. How would Deviljho handle against 2005 King Kong? Or how dangerous Dalamadur could be if it was real?
Monster Hunter is awesome, but it’s hard to match them with other creatures because they all have powers and are much stronger than their size indicates.
@@sussysussy1398 No, it's not unrealistic, it's completely scientific. Paleontologists use modern analogous animals to figure out how ancient animals looked like and behaved.
@@surgeonsergio6839Jurassic World Mosa is more than 3 times larger than the real Mosasaurus. Aswell it has almost everything different from the real specimens such as armor or tail fin shape. Not even mentioning enough power to either drown or outright kill Indominus Rex.
@@theapex1622that’s the movie fault the goji Center mentions this indirectly a couple times but still used scientific knowledge ( and some guesses to still make it fun and fair) to make it decently accurate
@@mojojojo6535 How is it the fault of the movie if it's a part of the Jurassic World universe? It would have more sense that Goji Center is the one at fault for not using the data from said universe.
Fish vs lizard, what a great way to kick off this fantastic series. I thought “40 minutes is a long time” but then I found myself so invested and here I am 40 mins later just so impressed
I like how this channel takes the science far deeper than even the authors of the sci-fi creatures did. This video reminds me of the great white versus saltwater croc episode in the _Animals Face-off_ series, especially when _Mossasurus_ is also a reptile; the result & rationale are also similar. To me, both in real paleontology & this sci-fi scenario, the megalodon is undisputed victor with aforementioned reasons. That battle with the kraken in the movie alone is enough to tell the toughness of this creature!
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I can totally understand the analysis. And it is a great work of art. I love how goji center went over almost all the most important parts and made all understandable. But I must say that they forgot the Megs biggest weakness. It's tail. Sharks swim with their tail and that to at least 60%. So getting even injured in that area would mean certain doom to the shark. The mosa is going to target the tail since it is the thinnest part of the Meg which means that its vulnerability is much higher which will cost it its life. So it comes down to the first ambush of the Meg. But in all straight up battles the Mosa should actually win since it will disable its opponents movement. But that just comes from me. Still love the video.
Sharks can still operate without a tail dorsal fins is a different story loses of the tail would slow them down but if you mean the entire tail not just fine of it that would be almost impossible for mosasaur to chew if in battle let alone if the meg didn’t fight back
@@l4z3rgh0st3 I can agree but the speed loss would make it possible for the Mosa to stop the Meg and hold it down and the dorselfin is their way to manoeuvre so I agree that a wound to the dorselfin would be the end since the meg would not be able to turn anymore or if the meg could it would be very slowly. And the tail doesn't need to be severed it is enough to damage the muscles on one side since they are in a constant state of stress they would snap on one side since the other would pull much harder. That is a phenomenon that happens in animals with muscle's that are under constant use since they normally should never be damage to a certain degree. But it all comes down to the amount of damage that is done and how fast it happens.
Wrong sharks can not swimp without a tail and the pectoral fins, why do you think when the illegal shark fishers, cut off their tails they can no longer swim? The tail fin of a shark is its propulsion in the water, the pectorals are its stabilisations and the dorsal is its corrector( to remain swimming up right) @@l4z3rgh0st3
The major issue in your logic is that a Meg hunting a mosa would be some lame arena battle. Instead of a high speed from the depths ambush to the head to stun and disable the prey. This whole concept is silly but doesn't take in account actual hunting behaviors from similar evolved species
@@Siggrim it won't matter, these animals can hear as well if you look at the closest relative the komodo dragon. A fish the size of the Meg, more specifically the one from the movie will not be quiet as it approaches at these speeds, only if the mosasaurus was above the surface and minding its business, much like seals or marlins do then it makes sense. Point is the mosasaurus will here the incoming threat on the humongous ripples and bubbly sounds it will make as it approaches at top speed.
Despite the mosa’s intelligence it pulled some pretty stupid moves in this fight. It had already injured the meg’s tail. So that should’ve been it’s main focus. When it went in for the gills it should’ve targeted the fins instead as those are more obvious weak spots or go right back to the tail. But of all of its attacks the ram at that moment was the dumbest. The mosa could’ve won this fight if it targeted the more obvious weak spots first.
Yeah, you're right, since if that fight used the intelligence factor more, the Misa should have win by either biting repeatedly the Megs tail or it's fins or gills, like Dolphins. Anyways, that was a awesome fight
@@CretaceousNightmare1 well of it can be caught that is, thats why sharks often take such huge loses to fast moving targets like dolphins and barracuda.
“It had already injured the Meg’s tail. So that should’ve been it’s main focus” I don’t think it’s easy to focus on a large thrashing tail, even if the mosa focused on it, it would’ve opened up a lot of weaknesses for the meg to exploit. One good bite from the meg is basically gameover. “When it went in for the gills it should’ve targeted the fins instead as those are more obvious weak spots or go right back to the tail” The mosa wouldn’t be able to hold on to the tail if it went for it, same reason why it let go of the gills (the reason it let go of the megs tail in the first place was explained in the video) Had the mosa went for the fin, it probably wouldn’t have worked either. The meg would probably just thrash around and the mosa would’ve let go just like the gills. “But of all of it attacks the ram at that moment was the dumbest” We have to remember that the mosa from JW hasn’t ever fought a large aquatic animal like the mosa. So it isn’t gonna be the smartest fighter. High Intelligence doesn’t necessarily give you a high battle IQ.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon oh this comment isn’t out of spite, I think Goji did an amazing job, even if the mosa lost, the fight is a single scenario, who knows, maybe in a parallel universe the mosa won?
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon yeah and the meg should've actually did because of higher detection range, stealth and speed but yes tbf it'll be boring if the fight was over literally 3 seconds just after it begins
Guess what, JWE2 just released the Meg and the outcome of a battle with Mosa is the same of this simulation. Perhaps Froniter saw this video and used it for the battle in the game. You should be proud.
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This second row was actually accounted for while studying this fight. However this second row is too small to even make significant damage because 1. Teeth are too small and 2. They are too close to the roof of the mouth of the Mosa, the most damage they would have done is mere scratches and not nearly the amount of biting damage of the outer row. These were basically obsolete against the Meg since its too big and wide for these teeth to be useful
That’s what I was thinking. Goji makes a point that the mosa had better lung capacity and intelligence I really don’t see why they had it makes SO MANY tactical mistakes especially after that beautiful opening counter. I honestly just think they were biased towards the Meg since the start because this fight animation made little to no sense after about the halfway mark. Between the mosa disengaging and leaving itself open in the process to chasing the Meg into deep water where it knows it doesn’t have the advantage, to charging the Meg straight on, to chasing into even deeper water, then somehow the mosa just loses all mobility even though it was supposed to have less vulnerability’s and higher agility. The fight should have been over after the initial tail bite on the Meg since that’s it’s only means of propulsion and also the bite on the lung absolutely should have sent it over the edge especially since it immediately went into the Mesopelagic zone where oxygen is far less concentrated than it is closer to the surface. Meaning that Meg absolutely would of not come back up. Not even mentioning the fact the Meg didn’t actually ever go that deep considering it hunted in coastal warm waters.
That's also the first thing that came to mind. The shark can't breath if it's not moving, so just by holding on to the tail (or really anywhere) for a few seconds should be enough to drown it. Realisticaly what I think would happen based on real life examples is: the shark gets initiative for detecting the mosa first, and has one chance to ambush it. It either hits and kills the mosa with a single bite to the belly, or it fails and has to retreat for a second chance, at which point the mosa gets the chance to retaliate and will most likely win. I guess the animation would be too short and/or not as interesting that way.
The Mosasaur didn’t let go, even after biting the weak spots the megalodon is to physically strong and fast for the mosa to latch on especially when it comes to the megs spherical body shape. And that first engagement the mosa thought to just ramming since biting wasn’t cutting it.
Hopefully, we can get a "The MEG vs The LEV" Battle FACEOFF Analysis video from Goji Center in the future, with "The LEV" referring to the Leviathan, a.k.a. Livyatan melvillei. Edit: Another great video, and knowing that there's more to come, I'm feeling really excited! I really love this kind of videos; they remind me of my childhood spent watching shows like Animal Faceoff and other random versus videos.
Megalodon would naturally win 1v1. Sharks that are solitary predators like the Great White, Tiger, etc. were always more designed for this than whale or dolphin species.
This epic face off was worth the wait. Congrats to the team for going so in-depth regarding the fight, from research to the scaling.. All was perfect. The simulation was a banger and so was the video as a whole. Cant wait for future face offs
It's an excellent choice to choose The Meg vs Ingen Mosa as the first episode of the Face off series! It is also a virtual confrontation between two marine predators that terrorized the sea in Earth's history, but I like the fact that they carefully analyzed the exaggerated descriptions in the movie in a duel that will cool down the hot summer. I look forward to the second match~!!
*“Nothing on earth is its equal, a creature without fear.”* -Book of Job 41 : 33, describing the most powerful creature of the seas, Leviathan I think this will be as close as one could get to a definitive answer to this question many a movie-goer and fan have no doubt had. Fantastic work on the graphics and animation! -Jack Blackburn, research consultant
Rexy vs. JP3 spinosaurus . I think it would be an interesting battle considering what Rexy has experienced over the years and that she's probably the most combative out of all the Rexes we've seen.
@cry2368 Yeah, but we have yet to receive any concrete information as to the current whereabouts of the JP3 spinosaurus, and all we have are theories. Some suspect that spinosaurus we saw in camp cretaceous is the same one from JP3 but older, while some believe it was kept on Nublar and rescued then transported to the Biosyn sanctuary, which I believe may be true. All and all, I believe it would make an interesting video.
Another thing to note about Ingen’s Mosasaur. The creature’s tail is much longer proportionally than that of a M.hoffmanni, which would have made it a bigger target and might have effected it’s swimming speed.
There is a monster that I have almost NEVER seen talked about at all, that I would love to see explored more in depth; The Kraken from 2010 Clash of the Titans. It looks like it would fit right in to the Monsterverse, and it was so disappointing how little screen-time it got and how little it actually did given how unique the design is.
40 mins of just pure awesomeness. The wait sure was worth it and definitely agreed with the outcome! Can't wait for Rodan vs Camazotz sometime down the line.
I feel like this battle would have been different because mosa isn’t a hit and runner, it has a second pair of jaws (like an eels) that it uses to bite and tear off chunks of flesh from its prey. While its main jaws are mainly used to hold and grasp onto prey, not deal quick bites. I feel like the mosa would have won at the point were it bit the gills because it would’ve used its second pair of jaws to start tearing away at the sharks gills, while the mosa would be able to hold onto and swim with the shark, while it bled out and possibly died due to the damage to its gills.
tbh ur right, but still due to the momentum and speed the shark's achieving, and due to the little grip strenhth there would be as the surface isn't that solid and rigid(near the shark's body), I'm pretty sure some gills may tear off, but with only moderate damage to the organs inside. And the shark would still mostly carry the same attack just like the video, but the outcome would've been changed by at least 40% My opinion
Realistically there's several points where the mosa should have died sooner, Megalodons had theoretically the strongest bite force of all time. That tail should have been severed, leaving the mosasaur to bleed out. Something like this could go either way, and real animals can't take nearly so many hits before they die. If you watch real footage of predators fighting each other, it's typically over very quickly for one side or the other.
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Ehhh, I disagree with this outcome. These kinds of encounters pretty much come down to whoever gets the first bite in. There's no real reason for the biter to release the victim, especially that early when stamina is still high.
the mosa probably struggled to hold on especially when the meg was squirming around violently, they literally tell you why the mosa letted go 2 times? 37:50 38:18
@@ahmadfaizan5173 The Mosa has higher maneuverability though? Meaning it can just move with the target to stay latched on, idk, feel like if a mosa latched on it isnt just gonna let go
I feel like mosasaurus should have won because of the fact that it's clearly bigger than the meg and it is slightly more intelligent than it. The meg's only option is a one shot where as the mosa has several options. Also it's way faster than the meg.
Animals are measured by weight, not length. Meg's bigger. Intelligence won't be an advantage in a pit fight. And Mosa is only more agile, whereas Meg is faster in a straight line
what i found stupid was how the spent forever talking about how smart it was when they made it stupid. it made no sense for a smart animal to go for the harder to reach gills over the easy fin, especially since that would have been it cause the shark would go down like a spiraling football
"I have bets on mosa" -(meg) wins on Speed, bite force, battle iq -(mosa) comes out on durability, IQ, agility, and overall strength, or something. -(Both) equal out on terrain compatibility, and both lack ranged attacks, and no special abilities. (The only reason I'm saying the mosa wins is because the meg died from a person in a diving suit, no hate, While the the mosa kills the irex. But it does really depend on there x Factor,) "This is just my guess" What to y'all think???
Goji Center, you forgot that the biger Meg from the first film had his belly cut by a danofiquet part of the planetor (or whatever the name is in english) so the under belly of the Meg isn't that resistant either, and it cut that big experiment, so the smaller one should have that vulnerability too
It took a blade-like piece of the submersible to do that. Conical teeth would not be able to reproduce the same effect. The type of sub is called Manta(at least in the book).
Plus sharks can't smell for miles at most times like my fav fish TH-camr AVNJ explained it depends on the currents, currents can carry from long distances to where sharks can smell them but sharks alone cannot sniff something out for miles.
That depends if it is smart enough to find that weakness and strong enough to flip it over. If they used any velociraptor DNA on it might be smart enough. However it might not be strong enough to flip the Meg. Note that orcas are bigger than great whites to flip it over and normally they group attack. However here the Meg holds the weight advantage.
this really doesn't seem like a fair outcome tbh. Why would the mosasaur willingly let the meg escape to ambush it later? The mosa could literally chase it after biting it's tail and since the meg can't swim backwards, it would lose it's tail and literally die. The only way a meg would catch a mosa and kill it is if it ambushes the Mosasaur. The Mosa is also too smart to swim straight into the meg's mouth to be chomped on....This "fight" made the mosa appear to be dumb while it could've easily outmaneuvered and killed the Meg.
@@Kasar_Logic It was literally mentioned in the video that mosa accelerates faster. Having taken no damage other than losing a rear fin (which is pretty useless for mosa's movement) after taking a big bite into meg's tail, the mosa should have been able to give chase and immediately catch up to the meg for a followup bite on the tail. Instead they made it go for the gills for no reason and lose the fight due to own stupidity while supposedly taking the edge in intelligence. Its all meg bias degenerates.
35:19 The fight would've ended right here imo, theres no reason as to why the Mosasaur let go and even less considering that the JW Mosa is much more crocodilian than lizard.
@@lassenker07 35:52 Even so the attack here shows the Mosasaur having another clear opening for the tail that would have slowed the Megs movements to a crawl. Instead they decided that it would go for the gills which is wired considering the tail is a weak spot and is already damaged. The Mosa was a smart animal so there's no way in hell why it wouldn't go for the tail once more.
I think Mosa would have won, I believe it had a sonar like modern whales, and it wouldn’t have gone for air that quick. It could hold it breathe easily for the entire fight. And it could just maneuver around the shark until it killed it
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I’m rooting for the mosasaurus and I’ve never seen the meg, but if it’s bite force is anything like a real megalodon, than the mosa is probably screwed
Most fights like this come down to which one gets the first bite in. Most 'monster duel' content creators ignore this. Hollywood too, now that I think about it. The infamous Spino vs Rex fight in JP3 for instance should've ended the second Rex got her teeth around Spino's neck. Instead, the fight proceeded past that into the bizarre decision to have Spino win by a _hollywood neck snap_ for some reason.
As much as i love those video's this one was heavily skewed towards The Megs favour. First of all Both size measurements were taken at their lowest, biggest Meg in the second film was 75 ft long and Mosa was scaled smaller than in any of the movies shown, in the first film most of the movie mosasaurus was around 120 feet but in fallen kingdom it grew to around 180 (or 250 in some scenes) feet long, by this factor alone the battle should be won by mosasaurus, furthermore osteoderms present on the back of the mosasaurus were no issue for the Mosa to jump off and catch a flying helicopter which can fly to upwards of 173 mph, considering it wasn't clearly flying at full speed we can lower it generously to 75 mph. The amount of strength and speed needed to not only catch up but to outpace a helicopter, break through the water and jump far enough to catch it, clearly shows that mosasaurus in JW is much faster than any Meg. And about the organs, most aquatic lizards and crocodilians possess so called Integumentary Sensatory Organs (ISO's for short) which serve the same if not even greater purpose than those of sharks. They can detect changes in pressure, ph, temperature, and most importantly changes in electromagnetic signals flowing through water, which indicate like a radar prey moving through the water, they're much more sensitive than a human touch (upwards of 20,000 times more) and mostly scattered all around the animals mouth, but there's quite a number of species that possess them all around their bodies, currently we know of a specimen that had a quite generous bundle on the top of the snout, which means the mosasaurus could definitely sense The Meg approaching long before it came even close to getting a bite in, and talking about bites, the research was mostly correct although it missed a very important detail, bites are not only about bite strength. Mosasaurus didn't need a crushing bite force as it became an apex predator because of an adaption (that was clearly seen in the movies), that no shark had, second jaws in the back of the mouth and extremely wide bite thanks to a dislocatable lower jaw which means that the first bite mosasaurus took, was the last one it needed to take. There was no amount of trashing that would shake it off. And in conclusion there is no scenario in which JW mosasaurus loses this fight, real one probably, but not this one i'm sorry but that's the truth and this video is simply cheery picking to make the Meg win.
@@M_.M979 "Feats" great argument hahaha, as if feats were the absolute truth of everything it's like saying that a domestic dog beats an adult lion for having more "feats", "Scarface" is much more experienced and much older, not to mention that the megalodons of this franchise have already fought with other sea monsters, and the Mosasaurus never had interaction with any, the Mosasaurus have no experience much less experience in battle, they only lived behind bars being fed with small sharks. The megalodon is an ambush predator, it is smart enough to create fight and ambush tactics, analyzing the victim's weak points, especially those that help with locomotion, such as the fins and tail.
@@Mtpbb I searched up what you're talking about, and it is quite funny as this "Scarface" that you praise was killed in the meg books, by guess what? 122 foot long Liopleurodon, which literally is the exact same as mosasaurus (in movies) at it's lowest size if not even weaker. My point still stands
An interesting thing to consider in this fight that wasn't covered was the actual evidence surrounding megs actual hunting strategy. Evidence suggests they were ambush predators who commonly targeted whales bu charging from underneath straight up, resulting in it ramming them, severely breaking their bones and inflicting massive damage via their bite. This would have likely been a very good strategy against the mosa who would be unable to look below them.
The Meg probably would’ve ended the fight as soon as it began, due to its hunting strategy, but I assume the only reason why that didn’t happen was because the fight animation wouldn’t have been as entertaining.
@@thehale_that’s pretty much how this plays out in any of megalodon’s what ifs. Megalodon gets its opening ambush bite and everything ends right there, or it fails and is a sitting duck. The megalodon should have been finished with both the tail bite and the full bite. With one set of gills working, we’re ok. With the tail gimped, things don’t look great but we can live if we find easy prey. With BOTH? There’s only one set of gills left, and the injured tail can’t move the shark enough to feed that set of gills. Mosasaur just had to pull away and let the clock tick. In megalodon’s defense, the mosasaur would have lost the tail and died from the bite.
Yeah but like it's already been said in the comments a 20 second fight animation wouldn't be very entertaining, being realistic like you said the meg could have immediately ended the fight if it got the first ambush bite
Mosa would prob win if it was swimming in a pack like you mentioned before. It would most likely not be alone by itself but swimming with other friends.
Problem is the mosasaurus is way more intelligent along with being able to refinish weak points very quickly like the megs fins, which once ripped off even if it’s one it will die.
I've seen sharks with damaged or missing pectoral or dorsal fins, including nurse sharks, great whites, grey reef sharks, and whale sharks. Their healing ability is remarkable, and as long as they don't lose their tail or one pectoral fin remains, they can recover pretty damn well. Also, how do you know the mosasaur is more intelligent? In reality, megalodon was probably on par with it if not more advanced, because it was a more highly evolved animal. Fossils show megalodon targeted large whales by biting off the tails and flippers first, which is something we saw a bit of in the fight. Mosasaurus could do this too, but we see it less frequently, and often only in fossils of the sea turtle Archelon, which was one of its favorite prey items.
@@Saberrex1 yes but not in the midst of a fight. Ripping off the fin would greatly disable it, and since no realistic retreat is allowed in this situation it’d be to disabled to fight back. i though we where comparing the Meg Megalodon with the JW Mosasaurus. In The Meg they’re portrayed as mindless predators that attack anything they see while in JW the Mosasaurus knows how to socialize with other species like humpback whales and weak spots when jumping at or attacking prey, seen when she aimed and held onto the Indominus-Rexes neck.
@@ahmadfaizan5173 grabbing and holding its prey will still dig deeper into the mega thin skin, and if we are to believe the sharks at the end of The Meg are able to tear it apart the Mosasaurus certainly can bite off it’s fin
Epic voice, epic narration, epic battle, epic graphics..... I wanted that the Mosasaurius win... but still.... I am convinced about the result Keep going Goji Center
Ahh yes the age old question for all of humanity. Who would win? The Megalodon or the Mosasaurus? This will surely be an great battle analysis. Im rooting for the underdog, The Meg
My thoughts on the fight really goes along with the descriptor sentence just before the fight. It really comes down to the first move of each. If the Meg gets the ambush, it wins. If the Mosa gets the first bite, especially on the tail like it did in the simulation and the Meg isn't able to thrash it off or get its own teeth in, then it's the winner. It didn't make any sense for it to let go and ram, especially considering how small the distance was after it let go, in fact it honestly would have made more sense for the Mosa to reposition it's bite since the Meg didn't move much. Based on the whole episode, I give it closer to a 60-40 for the Meg since I think the ambush is more likely to be effective but not the overwhelming victory GojiCenter is claiming.
yea its about who attacks first if mosa attacks megs gills meg will be slowned and giving mosa the advantage of biting off the other gill if meg gets hit on the tail or flippers mosa would be able to continue the fight even longer giving mosa the edge of biting both of meg gills to kill meg
Get comfortable you guys. This is our longest and most epic episode yet, and yes.. there is a fight in the end 😉
So excited 😊
Me too
I’m so excited
Are these face-off series weekly?
hell yeah! im a big fan and i have watched your videos since giga vs t-rex
instant sub, me personally cheering for the mosa and i love how u incoorporated their advantages and put an enphasis on what they r good at at the end
Here are my Parameters:-
Strength - Tie
Mass - Meg
Bulk - Meg
Weaponry - Meg
Technique - Meg
Skill - Mosa
Offence - Mosa
Defense - Mosa
Durability - Meg
Endurance - Mosa
Stamina - Mosa
Attack Speed - Tie
Dodging Speed - Mosa
IQ - Mosa
Battle IQ - Meg
Experience - Meg
Results :-
Mosa - 9
Meg - 9
Hence, its a 50-50. Had Mosa had more experience in fighting other large animals, it would take this fight with very high difficulty.
No it wouldn’t
Not really, the mosasaurus never stood a chance
I’m happy the Meg won but watching this analysis made me realize how badass the mosa really is!! I know the Meg novels do feature a mosasaurus but if this exact mosa was in the Meg movies it would have given Jonas and his team a run or in this case a swim for their money
Love this vid!! Keep it up, man!
I was most excited to see an actual battle unfold, and that it did, its so hard to find proper thrilling battles to the death between these amazing creatures, and this is a good one
Broooo this animation is unreal please continue with you amazing content
The fight is an accurate because the sizes are in accurate according to the size chart. The mosasaurs measures in at 75 m long whereas in the movie the Maggie is only 55 m long.
Fantastic video!!! Can't wait for the future battles. I hope the introduce some of the creatures from monster hunter!!!! I think it would fit this channel perfectly
I wish you would’ve mentioned the Mosasaur’s pharyngeal jaws while talking about bite force and the Meg’s tail as a weak point. It may not have changed the outcome, but I think it would’ve still been worth mentioning
The mosa: movie is not accurate, we will look at the scientific model.
The meg: yeah, movie fine
@GojiCenter You know; When I first found this channel and it's battle analysis, I thought there ' gonna be battle simulations at the ends. Now I'm glad that we finally see one; but I kinda wish to see simulations for the other battles too...Like in the previous battle analysis you've done in the past. Especially the ones with Kaiju.
If these animals were anything like their real-life counterparts:
1. They would stick to fighting in the shallows.
2. The mosasaur would come closer to tying the Meg in things like speed and senses.
As much as the outcome does make sense, I still think the in-gen mosa would win.
The reason why, the mosasaurus is smart enough to know to stay close to the surface, let the Meg’s attack come, and then counter the attack with its superior agility. The megs lack of capable movement from side to side in the head make it even more vulnerable to attack from the side. And since the mosasaurus can move and turn in all directions faster then the Meg can, the Meg wouldn’t be able to counter. I get the Meg is faster and can escape, but I don’t see it being fast enough. And take into account if the mosasaurus with to rip into the Meg’s flippers or tail, the Meg would be much more effected by the attack than if the Meg ripped into the mosasaurus’ flippers. So for those reasons, I do think the mosasaurus would win this battle.
Great video, I just had a problem with the senses section, I was really hoping they would bring up some part where f the fight at the end of Jurassic world where presumably the mosasaur not only sensed a fight happening but “watched” it until the indo rex was not only close enough to the water but also injured, showing intelligence but also great senses to be able to keep up with that fight from in the water
You guys should cover the house of the dragons they would be perfect on this Channel
Another thing is that due to the mosas lack of experience it would be less likely to understand the bill weakness of the meg. Especially since mosa has never experienced such a beast before.
Next Death Battle:
Godzilla(MonsterVerse) vs. Leviathan(Atlantis: The Lost Empire)!
I would love to see a vid on Stranger things 😊 keep up the great work I love ur vids!!
This was basically a Shark VS a Crocodile and if know anything about that match up you know who wins.
You know it’s a good month when teir zoo and Gojo center post in the same month
Great analysis and graphics 👏
I feel like I saw a very familiar battle on Animal Face-Off, Saltwater Crocodile vs. Great White Shark. Even down to the outcome.
Whoa! Megalodon can even stand up to Mosasaurus!
Alright this is awesome hope I’m future who would win has fights at the end aswell and imagine all the old comparisons with fights
Opinion: I think the Meg wins because they basically made it supernatural
can you make vid with a mosasaurs vs a shonisaurus?
next video can you do Ark giga vs ark carch
I only have one thing to point out and it’s an indisputable fact that was more or less mentioned in the video but the estimate that Gojicenter used on the INGEN mosa is very conservative. If they went with the 120 ft estimate, well… I don’t think that Meg would have a tail after that first bite
Anyone else notice the categories keep getting switched on who took it? A mosa won category was give to meg and vice versa
yea the categories got a little switched up unfortunately
Gojicenter? Can you reply to my comment?@@GojiCenter
I can't believe the mosasaurus lost
It was a great fight and an even better video! However am i the only one that does prefer the mosasaurus to the megladon or os that just me 😅
This battle would have been much quicker. Megalodon landing a single bite to the side or face would tear off the jaw or a complete chunk from the side. A 40,000 lb bite force is enough to tear the mosa upper jaw off during such a fight. The bote in that scene was inaccurate. Biteforce, the jet propelled silent strike alone would end the mosa.
Credit to all the people who came together to make this from Bo at Evolution Square to all the peeps at Goji center, I'm so excited for the future of this channel and all it has to offer
I agree
Next is Legendary Godzilla Vs Ming Lee in her Panda form from Disney Pixar's Turning Red battle analysis
All hail Beau.
ahaha seeing Bo be mentioned here is absolutely amazing
@@EvolutionSquarewhaaaat ?!?!?
This is like the modern successor to Animal Face-Off and Jurassic Fight Club.
Except it's much more interesting and probably, more informative
uhh animal face-off literally built tanks with metal jaw molds with hydraulics to test bite force damage.
Couldn’t have said it better myself !!!
Ye
Couldn't have said it better myself
Basically the same fight as Great White Shark vs Saltwater Crocodile from an old show called Animal Face-Off. Right down to the absurd frontal charge.
no its not, a mossa and a croc are not the same
@@Epicvibes999 Tell that to the people that made this video lmao.
@@Epicvibes999 "basically the same fight" means the ACTIONS of the fight were basically the same NOT the creatures in the fight
This is why the mosasaur vs jaws on steroids will never ever end well at all... what a brutal lesson that has been explained😢
Poor mosasaur had such high hopes so much😢
I have to correct something you missed in the bite section. Mosasaur has a secondary inner top jaw. This jaw moved independently of it's primary jaws, and was used to shred prey while the primary jaws held the prey. If you look closely at the inner top mouth of INGEN's Mosa, you see it also has this second jaw. This makes the Mosa's jaws and biting strategy different. The meg will bite and back off, a hit and run tactic. Mosa will hang on for a bit, using it's inner jaw to shred any part it bites. This will most likely result in more blood loss, and potentially more debilitating damage.
PS: Rewatching this, it's possible the mosa had Orca DNA, which would have drastically affected it's intelligence, allowing it to make smarter attack moves.
Those teeth are too small to do any damage due to he curvature of the roof of their mouth
Not really. That tail bite would have been affected.
@@TRIOAntimations Then why the smaller sharks with much smaller teeth have no problem devouring the Meg in the 1st film let alone the Mo with much bigger teeth with much bigger bite area?
Real-life mosasaurus did, but InGen's mosasaurus has a static second jaw that moves along the main jaws, not independent from it.
@@Alejandroigarabide How do we know it's static? I'm curious.
Goji Center never disappoints with his battle face-offs can’t wait to see which prehistoric beast deserves to be crowned deadliest predator in the ocean!
Same
i think its the Megalodon from Meg and the Jurassic World Mosa so my bet is on the meg, especially with the pack hunting
MY BET IS THE MEG IF ITS THE BIG ONE FROM THE TRENCH oops caps lock
My bet is the Meg is obviously that thing has a stronger bite force it can easily kill a mosasaurus with one bite no joke easy this it wouldn't be a fight the Megalodon killed the mosasaurus easily
Yes
Fun fact- in real life there's actually evidence to suggest that some mosasaurs specialised in ramming attacks! The mosasaur Tylosaurus was found to have an increasingly large and robust bony protuberance on its upper snout as it aged; this protuberance would have helped tylosaurs ram their prey with increasing amounts of force as they grew larger- perfect for a specialist big game hunter, while Mosasaurus' crushing bite would have made it a generalist of both large vertebrates and ammonites.
bruh goji center declared the winner…stop crying mosaboy
@@truthfulguy3687 There is no loser in opportunities to ramble about science to random people on the internet, only winners because they watched a random video and scrolled down and now know random facts about real-life tylosaurs in addition to what they learned in the video.
@@truthfulguy3687 BRO GOT ROASTED LOL
like it very scientific
@@truthfulguy3687 why are you mad at him? hes just saying a fun fact
I play a game called Beasts of Bermuda, where you can be like, 20 different dinosaurs and the Mosasaurus is easily the biggest threat in the entire game. I remember walking along the beach with my herd, and a full sized Apatosaurus was grabbed and pulled back into the ocean by a mosa player. It was freaking insane.
Mosasaurs aren't dinosaurs.
THEY DINOSAURS@@dubuyajay9964
@@dubuyajay9964boy shut up
Mosa players are absolutely assholes. I despise them. Always killed my saichanias :(
@@dubuyajay9964 Beasts of Bermuda is open to more than just dinosaurs. Pterodons, Marine Species, and more.
The fact that this is 40 minutes instantly tells me it’s going to be good.
I’d like to point out that if the mosa did stay around whales and communicate as you speculate then the whales would likely alert the mosa to the megs presence if not just put out distress signals. Which could give the mosa an advantage in either being prepared for an attack or set one up itself given its intelligence.
If your talking about prehistoric whales like basilo which are closer in time to mosa than todays whales they kill mosa on sight
@@l4z3rgh0st3 You made no sense.
@@BARelementI think what they’re trying to say is that the whales during the mosasaurus’ time would most likely kill them?
Osteoderms of crocodiles can also detect displacement in water which makes it hard to be ambushed
the whales might run away like the dolphins did.
I would like to point out 1 detail and that is that the Meg’s fins are a huge weak point, even more so than the mosa’s flippers because if it loses even 1 whether it’s a pectoral fin or the dorsal fin it’s dead due to the inability to balance its self. It would basically just be spiraling like a football as it swims forward until it dies. Many animals use this weakness to hunt and/or defend against modern sharks
Sharks have been repeatedly observed thriving even after having severely damaged pectoral, dorsal, and even caudal fins. Though the meg would likely have difficulty adapting to loss of a fin at first, it would likely not be enough to significantly throw it out of control. In this fight, had the shark really dedicated after landing the tail bite, it would have severed it completely, making the fight end much sooner.
@@Tidal_TerrorI’ve seen a great white swimming with half its Caudal fin missing megalodons are all much more bulcky and more durable a mosa would be able to damage it but most like;y unable to rip it off even some sharks seen with missing fins are swimming comfortably most of the time onky times they don’t is when making shark turn which the meg wouldn’t be able to if a meg did loose a fin it would still be able to swim just turn slower
@@Tidal_Terror Severing the tail is highly unlikely.
@@SpyXynt megs were known for biting entire whales clean in half. I don't think a lizard tail would be very difficult.
@@HungrySharkGamerthesharkojira a broken cartilage right in the fin would greatly affect it's ability to swim, and that's no ordinary opponent's bite, it's a mosasaurus'. I have seen em injured sharks with damaged tail only drift away spiraling after a duel with a baraccuda.
37:13 and by indisputable i mean COMPLETELY DISPUTABLE
In my opinion, literally all of the monsters in the Monster Hunter franchise would be amazing in one of these videos. How would Deviljho handle against 2005 King Kong? Or how dangerous Dalamadur could be if it was real?
Deviljho destroys King Kong like it’s not even fair😂
That's what I'm saying.I would love to see a goji center monster hunter vid
Monster Hunter is awesome, but it’s hard to match them with other creatures because they all have powers and are much stronger than their size indicates.
@tonk3878 then you could put them up against other monster hunter monster like image if we got deviljho vs rathalos or Ratin vs astalos
@@spinozilla4555I want some Muscle Monkey Madness, take on all comers.
I love how Goji center uses current animals attributes to figure out extinct animals attributes
Unrealistic but fair
@@sussysussy1398 No, it's not unrealistic, it's completely scientific. Paleontologists use modern analogous animals to figure out how ancient animals looked like and behaved.
@@surgeonsergio6839Jurassic World Mosa is more than 3 times larger than the real Mosasaurus. Aswell it has almost everything different from the real specimens such as armor or tail fin shape. Not even mentioning enough power to either drown or outright kill Indominus Rex.
@@theapex1622that’s the movie fault the goji Center mentions this indirectly a couple times but still used scientific knowledge ( and some guesses to still make it fun and fair) to make it decently accurate
@@mojojojo6535 How is it the fault of the movie if it's a part of the Jurassic World universe? It would have more sense that Goji Center is the one at fault for not using the data from said universe.
Fish vs lizard, what a great way to kick off this fantastic series. I thought “40 minutes is a long time” but then I found myself so invested and here I am 40 mins later just so impressed
Bro I just noticed it was 40 mins bro 💀💀💀
Eeyup.
I like how this channel takes the science far deeper than even the authors of the sci-fi creatures did. This video reminds me of the great white versus saltwater croc episode in the _Animals Face-off_ series, especially when _Mossasurus_ is also a reptile; the result & rationale are also similar.
To me, both in real paleontology & this sci-fi scenario, the megalodon is undisputed victor with aforementioned reasons. That battle with the kraken in the movie alone is enough to tell the toughness of this creature!
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#GojiCenter love your vids keep it up
Quick question if mechagodzilla actully have a close combat battle with titan what Kai just can actully break thought it body and kill it ?
Ive actually been interested in this fight, since this will be about the movie versions
I can totally understand the analysis. And it is a great work of art. I love how goji center went over almost all the most important parts and made all understandable. But I must say that they forgot the Megs biggest weakness. It's tail. Sharks swim with their tail and that to at least 60%. So getting even injured in that area would mean certain doom to the shark. The mosa is going to target the tail since it is the thinnest part of the Meg which means that its vulnerability is much higher which will cost it its life. So it comes down to the first ambush of the Meg. But in all straight up battles the Mosa should actually win since it will disable its opponents movement.
But that just comes from me. Still love the video.
Sharks can still operate without a tail dorsal fins is a different story loses of the tail would slow them down but if you mean the entire tail not just fine of it that would be almost impossible for mosasaur to chew if in battle let alone if the meg didn’t fight back
@@l4z3rgh0st3 I can agree but the speed loss would make it possible for the Mosa to stop the Meg and hold it down and the dorselfin is their way to manoeuvre so I agree that a wound to the dorselfin would be the end since the meg would not be able to turn anymore or if the meg could it would be very slowly. And the tail doesn't need to be severed it is enough to damage the muscles on one side since they are in a constant state of stress they would snap on one side since the other would pull much harder. That is a phenomenon that happens in animals with muscle's that are under constant use since they normally should never be damage to a certain degree. But it all comes down to the amount of damage that is done and how fast it happens.
Wrong sharks can not swimp without a tail and the pectoral fins, why do you think when the illegal shark fishers, cut off their tails they can no longer swim?
The tail fin of a shark is its propulsion in the water, the pectorals are its stabilisations and the dorsal is its corrector( to remain swimming up right)
@@l4z3rgh0st3
The major issue in your logic is that a Meg hunting a mosa would be some lame arena battle. Instead of a high speed from the depths ambush to the head to stun and disable the prey. This whole concept is silly but doesn't take in account actual hunting behaviors from similar evolved species
@@Siggrim it won't matter, these animals can hear as well if you look at the closest relative the komodo dragon. A fish the size of the Meg, more specifically the one from the movie will not be quiet as it approaches at these speeds, only if the mosasaurus was above the surface and minding its business, much like seals or marlins do then it makes sense. Point is the mosasaurus will here the incoming threat on the humongous ripples and bubbly sounds it will make as it approaches at top speed.
A battle between two of my favorite creatures!
This is already my new favorite video from goji center🔥
Despite the mosa’s intelligence it pulled some pretty stupid moves in this fight. It had already injured the meg’s tail. So that should’ve been it’s main focus. When it went in for the gills it should’ve targeted the fins instead as those are more obvious weak spots or go right back to the tail. But of all of its attacks the ram at that moment was the dumbest. The mosa could’ve won this fight if it targeted the more obvious weak spots first.
Yeah, you're right, since if that fight used the intelligence factor more, the Misa should have win by either biting repeatedly the Megs tail or it's fins or gills, like Dolphins.
Anyways, that was a awesome fight
@@paulvlahovic326 the meg should’ve won faster just by its bite alone, one bite to the tail or midsection and it’s over
@@CretaceousNightmare1 well of it can be caught that is, thats why sharks often take such huge loses to fast moving targets like dolphins and barracuda.
@@mucusman7511 it most likely would’ve rammed the mosa or swam up from below but you’re right about that though
“It had already injured the Meg’s tail. So that should’ve been it’s main focus”
I don’t think it’s easy to focus on a large thrashing tail, even if the mosa focused on it, it would’ve opened up a lot of weaknesses for the meg to exploit. One good bite from the meg is basically gameover.
“When it went in for the gills it should’ve targeted the fins instead as those are more obvious weak spots or go right back to the tail”
The mosa wouldn’t be able to hold on to the tail if it went for it, same reason why it let go of the gills (the reason it let go of the megs tail in the first place was explained in the video)
Had the mosa went for the fin, it probably wouldn’t have worked either. The meg would probably just thrash around and the mosa would’ve let go just like the gills.
“But of all of it attacks the ram at that moment was the dumbest”
We have to remember that the mosa from JW hasn’t ever fought a large aquatic animal like the mosa. So it isn’t gonna be the smartest fighter.
High Intelligence doesn’t necessarily give you a high battle IQ.
If that mosa didn’t let go, that whole fight could’ve ended a lot differently, great video GojiCenter, keep it up!
I agree 100 percent
And if Meg landed a first hit,the fight would be also diffrent,but,hey,dont blame Goji,the video probably took weeks to make!
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon oh this comment isn’t out of spite, I think Goji did an amazing job, even if the mosa lost, the fight is a single scenario, who knows, maybe in a parallel universe the mosa won?
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon yeah and the meg should've actually did because of higher detection range, stealth and speed but yes tbf it'll be boring if the fight was over literally 3 seconds just after it begins
The reason it left because it wouldn’t know it could kill it by keeping it that way plus you can tell it didn’t want to fight
Guess what, JWE2 just released the Meg and the outcome of a battle with Mosa is the same of this simulation.
Perhaps Froniter saw this video and used it for the battle in the game.
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@@GojiCenteralso can you make giga vs spino??
@@GojiCenterwe srsly need that fight
@@TJSeries-Animatedseconded. Also top 5 strongest theropods when ?
Interesting that they did not mention the second set of jaws, and hinged lower jaw that Mosasaurs in general are pretty well known for.
This second row was actually accounted for while studying this fight. However this second row is too small to even make significant damage because 1. Teeth are too small and 2. They are too close to the roof of the mouth of the Mosa, the most damage they would have done is mere scratches and not nearly the amount of biting damage of the outer row. These were basically obsolete against the Meg since its too big and wide for these teeth to be useful
@@GojiCenter gojis right.
@@GojiCentercan you do a battle between Legendary Godzilla of the monsterverse vs Ming Lee in her Panda form from Disney Pixar's Turning Red Movie
@@DavidMartinez-uv9qyyk who winning bro
@@MD_fan445 what do you mean by that
She wouldve won if she didnt keep LETTING GO after scoring extremely important bites
That’s what I was thinking. Goji makes a point that the mosa had better lung capacity and intelligence I really don’t see why they had it makes SO MANY tactical mistakes especially after that beautiful opening counter. I honestly just think they were biased towards the Meg since the start because this fight animation made little to no sense after about the halfway mark. Between the mosa disengaging and leaving itself open in the process to chasing the Meg into deep water where it knows it doesn’t have the advantage, to charging the Meg straight on, to chasing into even deeper water, then somehow the mosa just loses all mobility even though it was supposed to have less vulnerability’s and higher agility. The fight should have been over after the initial tail bite on the Meg since that’s it’s only means of propulsion and also the bite on the lung absolutely should have sent it over the edge especially since it immediately went into the Mesopelagic zone where oxygen is far less concentrated than it is closer to the surface. Meaning that Meg absolutely would of not come back up. Not even mentioning the fact the Meg didn’t actually ever go that deep considering it hunted in coastal warm waters.
That's also the first thing that came to mind. The shark can't breath if it's not moving, so just by holding on to the tail (or really anywhere) for a few seconds should be enough to drown it. Realisticaly what I think would happen based on real life examples is: the shark gets initiative for detecting the mosa first, and has one chance to ambush it. It either hits and kills the mosa with a single bite to the belly, or it fails and has to retreat for a second chance, at which point the mosa gets the chance to retaliate and will most likely win. I guess the animation would be too short and/or not as interesting that way.
Yeah
@@soulslayers2679ngl, in this fight i'll accept any winner, since the fight is a toss up really and almost impossible to decide who would truly win
The Mosasaur didn’t let go, even after biting the weak spots the megalodon is to physically strong and fast for the mosa to latch on especially when it comes to the megs spherical body shape. And that first engagement the mosa thought to just ramming since biting wasn’t cutting it.
Hopefully, we can get a "The MEG vs The LEV" Battle FACEOFF Analysis video from Goji Center in the future, with "The LEV" referring to the Leviathan, a.k.a. Livyatan melvillei.
Edit: Another great video, and knowing that there's more to come, I'm feeling really excited! I really love this kind of videos; they remind me of my childhood spent watching shows like Animal Faceoff and other random versus videos.
Meg vs Levi
Liv...what?
@dubuyajay9964 I think they’re referring to livytan mevili, a extinct species of sperm whale that competed with megalodons for food
Megalodon would naturally win 1v1.
Sharks that are solitary predators like the Great White, Tiger, etc. were always more designed for this than whale or dolphin species.
So basically his equal
This epic face off was worth the wait. Congrats to the team for going so in-depth regarding the fight, from research to the scaling.. All was perfect. The simulation was a banger and so was the video as a whole. Cant wait for future face offs
Props to the camera man for being able to hold their breath that long and able to follow the Meg and Mossa for that long and quickly underwater.
It's an excellent choice to choose The Meg vs Ingen Mosa as the first episode of the Face off series! It is also a virtual confrontation between two marine predators that terrorized the sea in Earth's history, but I like the fact that they carefully analyzed the exaggerated descriptions in the movie in a duel that will cool down the hot summer. I look forward to the second match~!!
*“Nothing on earth is its equal, a creature without fear.”*
-Book of Job 41 : 33, describing the most powerful creature of the seas, Leviathan
I think this will be as close as one could get to a definitive answer to this question many a movie-goer and fan have no doubt had. Fantastic work on the graphics and animation!
-Jack Blackburn, research consultant
what
Funny how they called it creature without fear when it was also stated it is scared of small parasite that can kill it.
Huh?
@@januszpolak254 funny contradictions are not a new thing
Leviathan the true king of the sea
Rexy vs. JP3 spinosaurus .
I think it would be an interesting battle considering what Rexy has experienced over the years and that she's probably the most combative out of all the Rexes we've seen.
Haha neck snap go brrrrrr
JPs Spinosaurus is also pretty old too but NOT as old as rexy.
@cry2368 Yeah, but we have yet to receive any concrete information as to the current whereabouts of the JP3 spinosaurus, and all we have are theories.
Some suspect that spinosaurus we saw in camp cretaceous is the same one from JP3 but older, while some believe it was kept on Nublar and rescued then transported to the Biosyn sanctuary, which I believe may be true. All and all, I believe it would make an interesting video.
@@SpiritualWarrior1939 it was confirmed the be the same guy which means JP3 Spino is 24 years old
Rexy is the same size as the JP3 spino. However the spino is larger in camp Cretaceous
Another thing to note about Ingen’s Mosasaur. The creature’s tail is much longer proportionally than that of a M.hoffmanni, which would have made it a bigger target and might have effected it’s swimming speed.
There is a monster that I have almost NEVER seen talked about at all, that I would love to see explored more in depth; The Kraken from 2010 Clash of the Titans. It looks like it would fit right in to the Monsterverse, and it was so disappointing how little screen-time it got and how little it actually did given how unique the design is.
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the kraken vs behemoth
“RELEASE THE KRAKEN.”
Im hella excited, however, there are 2 fights im more excited for
Camazotz vs rodan
Arc giga vs the big one
what big one
@@wenjunwu3362Ramarak
The giga chad truly never disappoints his audience.
40 mins of just pure awesomeness. The wait sure was worth it and definitely agreed with the outcome!
Can't wait for Rodan vs Camazotz sometime down the line.
I feel like this battle would have been different because mosa isn’t a hit and runner, it has a second pair of jaws (like an eels) that it uses to bite and tear off chunks of flesh from its prey. While its main jaws are mainly used to hold and grasp onto prey, not deal quick bites. I feel like the mosa would have won at the point were it bit the gills because it would’ve used its second pair of jaws to start tearing away at the sharks gills, while the mosa would be able to hold onto and swim with the shark, while it bled out and possibly died due to the damage to its gills.
tbh ur right, but still due to the momentum and speed the shark's achieving, and due to the little grip strenhth there would be as the surface isn't that solid and rigid(near the shark's body), I'm pretty sure some gills may tear off, but with only moderate damage to the organs inside. And the shark would still mostly carry the same attack just like the video, but the outcome would've been changed by at least 40%
My opinion
The shark should have drowned when the mosa pulled and held the meg in place
Realistically there's several points where the mosa should have died sooner, Megalodons had theoretically the strongest bite force of all time. That tail should have been severed, leaving the mosasaur to bleed out. Something like this could go either way, and real animals can't take nearly so many hits before they die. If you watch real footage of predators fighting each other, it's typically over very quickly for one side or the other.
it would have to be a prolonged period of time about 2 or 3 minutes
Meg still would win
My wish for a modern version of Animal Face Off has come true! A perfect simularity to what I commented at the T-Rex Vs Spin-off video. Thank you to everybody who put their hearts into making this epic face off!
Ehhh, I disagree with this outcome. These kinds of encounters pretty much come down to whoever gets the first bite in.
There's no real reason for the biter to release the victim, especially that early when stamina is still high.
the mosa probably struggled to hold on especially when the meg was squirming around violently, they literally tell you why the mosa letted go 2 times?
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@@ahmadfaizan5173 The Mosa has higher maneuverability though? Meaning it can just move with the target to stay latched on, idk, feel like if a mosa latched on it isnt just gonna let go
Doesn’t matter if you disagree
It doesn’t matter if you disagree, you re wrong.
I feel like mosasaurus should have won because of the fact that it's clearly bigger than the meg and it is slightly more intelligent than it. The meg's only option is a one shot where as the mosa has several options. Also it's way faster than the meg.
IRL Meg is larger than mosasaurus
Animals are measured by weight, not length. Meg's bigger. Intelligence won't be an advantage in a pit fight. And Mosa is only more agile, whereas Meg is faster in a straight line
@@ArkhamKnight106not exactly, i mean, it's like the rex and spino of the oceans, the megalodon is more robust, and the mosa is longer
what i found stupid was how the spent forever talking about how smart it was when they made it stupid. it made no sense for a smart animal to go for the harder to reach gills over the easy fin, especially since that would have been it cause the shark would go down like a spiraling football
@ArkhamKnight106 I wasn't talking about the IRL versions.
"I have bets on mosa"
-(meg) wins on
Speed, bite force, battle iq
-(mosa) comes out on durability, IQ, agility, and overall strength, or something.
-(Both) equal out on terrain compatibility, and both lack ranged attacks, and no special abilities.
(The only reason I'm saying the mosa wins is because the meg died from a person in a diving suit, no hate,
While the the mosa kills the irex.
But it does really depend on there x Factor,)
"This is just my guess"
What to y'all think???
Agreed. Also Mosa eats sharks for a living. Meg is just a bigger snack for her lol.
i have my bets on the meg. if it is the 20-25 meter length meg then rip on the mosa ig
The mosa at the very end of jw seems to have is head nearly as big as the irex
Goji Center, you forgot that the biger Meg from the first film had his belly cut by a danofiquet part of the planetor (or whatever the name is in english) so the under belly of the Meg isn't that resistant either, and it cut that big experiment, so the smaller one should have that vulnerability too
It took a blade-like piece of the submersible to do that. Conical teeth would not be able to reproduce the same effect. The type of sub is called Manta(at least in the book).
This man makes such good videos, 1M by the end of August!
My money is on the Mosa!!
MONEEEEEY
There's one weakness you didn't mention that has been seen in nearly all sharks. When they turn upside down they become litterally paralyzed.
Plus sharks can't smell for miles at most times like my fav fish TH-camr AVNJ explained it depends on the currents, currents can carry from long distances to where sharks can smell them but sharks alone cannot sniff something out for miles.
TBF, so far, only humans and orcas have figured that out, so I doubt the mosa could use this to her advantage.
@@BloodyVoyager well it could if it had actually mosa intelligence which was established it had more than.
That depends if it is smart enough to find that weakness and strong enough to flip it over. If they used any velociraptor DNA on it might be smart enough. However it might not be strong enough to flip the Meg. Note that orcas are bigger than great whites to flip it over and normally they group attack. However here the Meg holds the weight advantage.
Mosa can’t flip it though
If mosa was the size he was in Jurassic world he would smash meg
Mosa’s size pretty much varies through the franchise
@@TeoDP7 yeah but if goji centre took his size from the movie he first appeared in he would win
@@beepboop1552 well according to some estimates the JW InGen’s mosa is big as the Statue of Liberty so it would be no coincidence
@@TeoDP7 yh
this really doesn't seem like a fair outcome tbh. Why would the mosasaur willingly let the meg escape to ambush it later? The mosa could literally chase it after biting it's tail and since the meg can't swim backwards, it would lose it's tail and literally die. The only way a meg would catch a mosa and kill it is if it ambushes the Mosasaur. The Mosa is also too smart to swim straight into the meg's mouth to be chomped on....This "fight" made the mosa appear to be dumb while it could've easily outmaneuvered and killed the Meg.
The meg is faster than the mosa, have you seen how fast it was in the movie?
@@Kasar_Logic It was literally mentioned in the video that mosa accelerates faster. Having taken no damage other than losing a rear fin (which is pretty useless for mosa's movement) after taking a big bite into meg's tail, the mosa should have been able to give chase and immediately catch up to the meg for a followup bite on the tail. Instead they made it go for the gills for no reason and lose the fight due to own stupidity while supposedly taking the edge in intelligence. Its all meg bias degenerates.
The meg is a waaaaay more experienced fighter. That's why she wins.
35:19 The fight would've ended right here imo, theres no reason as to why the Mosasaur let go and even less considering that the JW Mosa is much more crocodilian than lizard.
It let go because the Meg was thrashing and squirming around, it's gotta be hard to hold it in place, especially since it's heavier
@@lassenker07 35:52 Even so the attack here shows the Mosasaur having another clear opening for the tail that would have slowed the Megs movements to a crawl.
Instead they decided that it would go for the gills which is wired considering the tail is a weak spot and is already damaged. The Mosa was a smart animal so there's no way in hell why it wouldn't go for the tail once more.
Because the Meg was thrashing around
It leg go because the Meg was thrashing around
I think Mosa would have won, I believe it had a sonar like modern whales, and it wouldn’t have gone for air that quick. It could hold it breathe easily for the entire fight. And it could just maneuver around the shark until it killed it
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when did mosa have sonar like whales do? source?
@@funkystickman99 source trust me bro 😎
Sonar is a very specific adaptation, there is no evidence that mosasaurs had sonar.
at last, back are the battle face offs, with a whole tournament this time! you've rly outdone yourself gojicenter. hope more episodes will be coming soon!
I’m rooting for the mosasaurus and I’ve never seen the meg, but if it’s bite force is anything like a real megalodon, than the mosa is probably screwed
Yeah but it is jurrasic world mosa so probably has a decent size advantage
Speed and stealth is also way too much in the megs favor
the has has the strongest bite force human history knows of braahhh
Most fights like this come down to which one gets the first bite in. Most 'monster duel' content creators ignore this. Hollywood too, now that I think about it.
The infamous Spino vs Rex fight in JP3 for instance should've ended the second Rex got her teeth around Spino's neck. Instead, the fight proceeded past that into the bizarre decision to have Spino win by a _hollywood neck snap_ for some reason.
The mosa is longer but the meg is more heavy
As much as i love those video's this one was heavily skewed towards The Megs favour. First of all Both size measurements were taken at their lowest, biggest Meg in the second film was 75 ft long and Mosa was scaled smaller than in any of the movies shown, in the first film most of the movie mosasaurus was around 120 feet but in fallen kingdom it grew to around 180 (or 250 in some scenes) feet long, by this factor alone the battle should be won by mosasaurus, furthermore osteoderms present on the back of the mosasaurus were no issue for the Mosa to jump off and catch a flying helicopter which can fly to upwards of 173 mph, considering it wasn't clearly flying at full speed we can lower it generously to 75 mph. The amount of strength and speed needed to not only catch up but to outpace a helicopter, break through the water and jump far enough to catch it, clearly shows that mosasaurus in JW is much faster than any Meg. And about the organs, most aquatic lizards and crocodilians possess so called Integumentary Sensatory Organs (ISO's for short) which serve the same if not even greater purpose than those of sharks. They can detect changes in pressure, ph, temperature, and most importantly changes in electromagnetic signals flowing through water, which indicate like a radar prey moving through the water, they're much more sensitive than a human touch (upwards of 20,000 times more) and mostly scattered all around the animals mouth, but there's quite a number of species that possess them all around their bodies, currently we know of a specimen that had a quite generous bundle on the top of the snout, which means the mosasaurus could definitely sense The Meg approaching long before it came even close to getting a bite in, and talking about bites, the research was mostly correct although it missed a very important detail, bites are not only about bite strength. Mosasaurus didn't need a crushing bite force as it became an apex predator because of an adaption (that was clearly seen in the movies), that no shark had, second jaws in the back of the mouth and extremely wide bite thanks to a dislocatable lower jaw which means that the first bite mosasaurus took, was the last one it needed to take. There was no amount of trashing that would shake it off. And in conclusion there is no scenario in which JW mosasaurus loses this fight, real one probably, but not this one i'm sorry but that's the truth and this video is simply cheery picking to make the Meg win.
@@Mtpbb who?
The 100 foot long t-rex from Turok. Even she gets dominated by the mosa@@motivatedpotato6604
any feats for bigger meg
@@M_.M979 "Feats" great argument hahaha, as if feats were the absolute truth of everything it's like saying that a domestic dog beats an adult lion for having more "feats", "Scarface" is much more experienced and much older, not to mention that the megalodons of this franchise have already fought with other sea monsters, and the Mosasaurus never had interaction with any, the Mosasaurus have no experience much less experience in battle, they only lived behind bars being fed with small sharks. The megalodon is an ambush predator, it is smart enough to create fight and ambush tactics, analyzing the victim's weak points, especially those that help with locomotion, such as the fins and tail.
@@Mtpbb I searched up what you're talking about, and it is quite funny as this "Scarface" that you praise was killed in the meg books, by guess what? 122 foot long Liopleurodon, which literally is the exact same as mosasaurus (in movies) at it's lowest size if not even weaker. My point still stands
An interesting thing to consider in this fight that wasn't covered was the actual evidence surrounding megs actual hunting strategy. Evidence suggests they were ambush predators who commonly targeted whales bu charging from underneath straight up, resulting in it ramming them, severely breaking their bones and inflicting massive damage via their bite. This would have likely been a very good strategy against the mosa who would be unable to look below them.
The Meg probably would’ve ended the fight as soon as it began, due to its hunting strategy, but I assume the only reason why that didn’t happen was because the fight animation wouldn’t have been as entertaining.
@@thehale_that’s pretty much how this plays out in any of megalodon’s what ifs. Megalodon gets its opening ambush bite and everything ends right there, or it fails and is a sitting duck. The megalodon should have been finished with both the tail bite and the full bite. With one set of gills working, we’re ok. With the tail gimped, things don’t look great but we can live if we find easy prey. With BOTH? There’s only one set of gills left, and the injured tail can’t move the shark enough to feed that set of gills. Mosasaur just had to pull away and let the clock tick.
In megalodon’s defense, the mosasaur would have lost the tail and died from the bite.
@@curts7801 necro as f, but the video said the Mosa would have heard the Meg. Mosa got robbed
@@ashdaniels2332 video's wrong. just because you say something authoritatively or with confidence doesn't make it true
Yeah but like it's already been said in the comments a 20 second fight animation wouldn't be very entertaining, being realistic like you said the meg could have immediately ended the fight if it got the first ambush bite
I like how the Meg’s colour becomes the mosasaur after vulnerability making it super confusing
Yeah that confused me too. It also says senses was a tie?
GG Meg, respect for Mosasaurus for Putting up a good fight too
Honestly I don’t like the idea of a big monkey in the monster verse, it seems unoriginal and out of place. Hence why I hate Kong in general.
I mean King Kong was pretty much one of if not the first giant ape in cinema so it’s not unoriginal if it was the original
I feel robbed of my time everything was in the mosas favor and then it became stupid bruh
Every time I watch these combat videos I learn to appreciate both creatures thanks to the analysis.
Mosa would prob win if it was swimming in a pack like you mentioned before. It would most likely not be alone by itself but swimming with other friends.
Well that meg has a iq
Cry about it
@@Discord.Moderator wth u mean man
It wouldn't be a 1v1, where's your common sense.
@@Chunkylover. There is only 1 JW mosasaurus, so there would be no pack.
Problem is the mosasaurus is way more intelligent along with being able to refinish weak points very quickly like the megs fins, which once ripped off even if it’s one it will die.
I've seen sharks with damaged or missing pectoral or dorsal fins, including nurse sharks, great whites, grey reef sharks, and whale sharks. Their healing ability is remarkable, and as long as they don't lose their tail or one pectoral fin remains, they can recover pretty damn well. Also, how do you know the mosasaur is more intelligent? In reality, megalodon was probably on par with it if not more advanced, because it was a more highly evolved animal. Fossils show megalodon targeted large whales by biting off the tails and flippers first, which is something we saw a bit of in the fight. Mosasaurus could do this too, but we see it less frequently, and often only in fossils of the sea turtle Archelon, which was one of its favorite prey items.
@@Saberrex1 yes but not in the midst of a fight. Ripping off the fin would greatly disable it, and since no realistic retreat is allowed in this situation it’d be to disabled to fight back. i though we where comparing the Meg Megalodon with the JW Mosasaurus. In The Meg they’re portrayed as mindless predators that attack anything they see while in JW the Mosasaurus knows how to socialize with other species like humpback whales and weak spots when jumping at or attacking prey, seen when she aimed and held onto the Indominus-Rexes neck.
@@ahmadfaizan5173 grabbing and holding its prey will still dig deeper into the mega thin skin, and if we are to believe the sharks at the end of The Meg are able to tear it apart the Mosasaurus certainly can bite off it’s fin
I sure hope the mosa win as it moght as the speed and agility.
same
It's moever mosa bros it's lost
@@somethingelseidk1035 I know but it did put up a good fight til the end.
@@Cheetahcat-1128 So true I didn't like how the mosa just let go then bumped the meg literally 3 inches away from it
GojiCenter you never disappoint . Very excited for this !!
same!
Epic voice, epic narration, epic battle, epic graphics..... I wanted that the Mosasaurius win... but still.... I am convinced about the result
Keep going Goji Center
Ahh yes the age old question for all of humanity. Who would win? The Megalodon or the Mosasaurus? This will surely be an great battle analysis. Im rooting for the underdog, The Meg
The underdog is the mosa if it’s the MEG 2 megalodon if it’s MEG 1 megalodon then mosa probably wins high-to-extreme difficulty
I'm going with the mosasaurus but i don't hate your opinion
@@kenbone7271 thanks for being polite I appreciate your opinion as well
@@kenbone7271 I respect you.
@@Leyley_editzzmeg 2 meg is weak nlg
hey goji center why dont you do a video were godzilla goes agesnts Eva unit 01
This is basically Goji center's version of Death battle at this point
My thoughts on the fight really goes along with the descriptor sentence just before the fight. It really comes down to the first move of each. If the Meg gets the ambush, it wins. If the Mosa gets the first bite, especially on the tail like it did in the simulation and the Meg isn't able to thrash it off or get its own teeth in, then it's the winner. It didn't make any sense for it to let go and ram, especially considering how small the distance was after it let go, in fact it honestly would have made more sense for the Mosa to reposition it's bite since the Meg didn't move much. Based on the whole episode, I give it closer to a 60-40 for the Meg since I think the ambush is more likely to be effective but not the overwhelming victory GojiCenter is claiming.
maybe the meg managed to get mossa of its tail genius?
yea its about who attacks first if mosa attacks megs gills meg will be slowned and giving mosa the advantage of biting off the other gill if meg gets hit on the tail or flippers mosa would be able to continue the fight even longer giving mosa the edge of biting both of meg gills to kill meg