The smart thing to do with this is to take the same photo and make subtle and terrifying changes to it over the course of the entire two years to make the person feel like they're going insane or the thing is haunted.
I thought that was the idea... Get a group pic and start changing things moving people around, adding famous people, putting weird hats every day. Someone did that manually swapping the picture every day until their parents noticed, can't find the video.
This is actually a really good implementation of a digital photo frame. The use of e-ink and only changing the photo every 24 hours (or more) makes it much more unobtrusive than the ones that were such a fad over a decade ago.
Everyone knows about those. This is not a digital photo frame product being sold by anyone. It's just a display with no driver, power supply, or anything else. If you were to buy it, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it on its own.
I really think what you should have done was have a series of the same picture, but edited more and more with Photoshop so that it diverged more and more from reality over time (change the position of people, fiddle with hairstyles, change the color of clothing, etc), and saw how long it took her to notice that something wasn't right...
@@Melian_Dialogue Dude, you and all the people saying "don't make your mom think she's got memory/congnitive issues, that's a mean thing to do" can really shut up. Don't you realise this kind of "joke" can be played on almost anybody? It's not made extra funny just because you do it to an older person. Literally most normal people aren't thinking that, I've only seen it mentioned in comments criticising the joke! There are some "stars" that need to line up for this to work, namely you need someone who would appreciate such a gift in the first place, and actually still puts up pictures around the house, but someone that's not gonna fuss over matching styles and reframing the photo, etc etc. A mom makes perfect sense for this kind of thing... and sure you get some wholesome points for it too, but the joke works just as well if it were some 22 y/o doing it to their 49 y/o mom, no need to have connotations of "going senile". You and others are just fabricating that, because it seems you can't fathom such a joke being ok?
When I saw the title and the thumbnail, I thought you were making a picture frame that, when your mother was visiting, displayed an edited version of a picture with some family member she didn't get along with edited out. I'm very pleased that the actual project was so much more wholesome, and that it worked so well, and that your mom didn't seem remotely surprised that you made something like this. Cheers!
Based on the thumbnail and title I assumed the video was going to be a prank in the more typical sense where when your mother is alone it displays a ghost in the background of the photos but when other people are there the ghost disappears.
@@DieselRamcharger I am very sorry that I have to disappoint you. There's no reason for "believe" here at all. Such things can easily be proved by science. Your saying says a lot more about you than you might be aware of, because apparently YOUR world view is based on such naive foundations and you simply infer others from yourself. So you made just an absolute complete idiot out of yourself beside that you brabble was off-topic. Oh and you can't be a troll. They have usually more than one brain-cells (in most cases two ... so that they can be friends in that desert).
What would be a bit more tricky would be to load it with a number of almost identical shots. Usually for family photos you’d take maybe 6 shots and the choose the best, imagine check the photo each morning and wondering if that expression on someone’s face was the same as yesterday?
was half hoping each day was a subtly different edited picture and after 2 months its a completely different picture... and now i'm imagining frames from a video that progressively gets weirder amazing idea and really sweet execution
For anyone that's thinking of making something like this today, there's this company called Pimoroni that has made a board with an eink display, rpi pico w, SD card reader, and some other features built right in. They also have custom firmware that makes setting pictures super easy. Highly recommend if you want something more simple and easy to set up
This is literally the most liked video I have ever made at 1,000 views, I think. We're at under 3,000 and I'm already up to 630 likes. So, maybe I can't get out of making other videos like this?
@@CNLohr I think the problem is: you explain clearly your what you want to do, and how you achieved it. Some of your other videos turned me off, because somewhere along the way you lost me. I generally like what you do, and am really impressed by the amount of knowledge you have, I myself couldn't implement a protocol like scsi for life of me, but the process there sometimes is long winded and hard to understand, so I get it that editing this down and preparing a nice presentation is really hard.
Floyd-Steinberg dithering is awesome. I like how simple it is, and that it only looks ahead in the buffer, not requiring a second buffer for final image storage("In-place").
It really is amazing, but I found out bizquit has something that's even better for some applications. I hope to try it in the future. Look up "Joel Yliluoma's arbitrary-palette positional dithering algorithm"
@@CNLohr Hehe, already knew that one :P It's great though, way more capable than "vanilla" Floyd-Steinberg(but also more complex). bizquit is awesome, he's the main reason I started doing graphics programming.
My Gosh! I clicked on this just because the Title was Interesting. The level of Detail and all the technical Knowledge you provided to us is just Phenominal. Thank You for taking the time!
I had no ida there was a 7 colour display like this. It honestly looks really good. Cool project too, it's funny how mum's are pleased even if they don't understand it haha.
I think a lot of people would rather have something like this because it's less distracting when you have it in your living room. It's also cool to see it change if it changes every hour or so. You can have all your memories in one house now!
@@kurtlamprecht93 No you haven't. The reason why you couldn't store all your memories in your house is because you were unable to frame every picture. technically you can have a photo album or box of photos, but what I'm saying is very different. You don't really have all of your memories when it's in a box or the hard drive of a computer. Having an e-inc display for photos gives you some of those memories back because otherwise they would be collecting dust or taking up storage on your phone or something like that. You are right, but if you're going to go that far you could easily say that the only place where all of your memories are stored is your brain.
I think to confuse her you could've photoshopped a series of the same photo, just move persons around, add hats etc. Then it could've taken a while to really figure out what has happened. But more seriously, that's a sweet gift!
since he left a little bit of the audio from the b roll videos in the background i kept thinking there was someone talking in my house...... i live alone..... also wtf is the point of wearing a mask when your alone or when your just gonna take it off when you talk
I like your attempt at trying to do a kind of profiling of the displayed colors through photographing it at around 04:55 - Color calibration and color management is a deep rabbit hole and I appreciate you including this in the video. I think the flaw was that what you did would be only useful at providing the palette for a soft proofing profile on your LC or Oled display of your computer. To extract the display-able colors you would have to measure them under a known light source and also correct for the reflectance of the display (this is why your black levels where off and looked washed out). Nonetheless a very exciting project 😍👍
I think the biggest issue was that I cannot accurately display the colors because they are not as vivid. So, doing it the way I landed on provides the "most" vividness that can be done without supersaturation.
Yes exactly. This is because the gamut volume of the display is far smaller because it is based on subtractive color science and not additive. Meaning it can only reflect light and not produce it like say an Oled panel. This is also why printing color spaces are narrower than display color spaces. So soft proofing is used on the display to simulate the narrower space of a printing medium. Additionally, you are basically working with a kind of 3bit display 😂 so only 1 bit for brightness info and 2bits for the shades and then using dithering to trick the eye into seeing colors that are not there. But actually using the palette you derived from the picture you took in the conversion algorithm would basically be a way to soft proof or simulate, what the final picture would look under the specific lighting conditions you took the photo under. So you could technically use it in extreme cases to then adjust the original picture (say you observed severe banding on the eInk display and wanted to adjust the picture before converting it again), then simulate the output on your pc monitor without the need to send it to your mum to put it on the display, maybe tweak it again and then use the 'optimal' palette on the picture for the final conversion. Anyways this is a great example of color spaces and working with limited color volume 👍
27th - 29th April at Taiwan Touch (a fair) a new generation of E Ink will be presented. This new gen of screens will be able too do animations and videos. They didn't announce a refreshrate. I can't wait for it.
This video is now 3 years old... where can i buy the whole product? Development should be downscaled everything with a nice low production cost figure and some dedicated software to render the pictures... 😅 damn this should be mass produced man! Very nice gift, much nicer than the bukly 2010s lcd picture frames.
I want to make one of these for a friend but just use, like, 20 images in sequence that are just the same picture of us but more and more zoomed in for each one, until after a couple of weeks it’s just, like, their eyes or something. What an incredible video! Love how much detail you put into what could have just been a basic rundown of a silly project!
This was an amazing investigation and implementation, I've never seen any other TH-camr, colleague, or person be more invested in a project than you normally do.
I read the title as "epaper picture that changes my mum", i.e. a nice family pic that cycles through potential other mothers you could've had? I think my mum would appreciate that.
Finish what you started!!! Figure out how to get this produced and sold! I'm retired now and frustrated at all the times I made things and had no idea how cool customers would have thought they were if I'd only made them available! 😬😅
@@weorldedit That's the problem these days. There is always a tradeoff between high fidelity and high power consumption. With people so used to plugging/charging any and every electronic device they own, they rather have a 4K smart picture frame that uses 10W and needs a power cable, than a dithered, low-res e-ink one that lasts over a year on a single 760mAh charge.
Love this idea, any thoughts on how to tie this in with something like a Google photos album? Additional steps would be to connect to wifi, download the new image and then process it. I wonder what additional power consumption would be?
If it was me I'd take a photo of a group of 20 people and photoshop multiple iterations until eventually no one was left. Each night it would update and someone would vanish from the frame, like a Soviet-era purge.
You should’ve photoshopped different details in a single picture and got it to changes a few small details every night and see how long it would take her to notice. Like a find the differences game.
This is above my level of understanding, but, this is completely awesome. eInk displays have come a long way and I hope for a very long and bright future for them.
OMG, the prank/gaslighting possibilities for this are hilarious/terrifying. e.g. Replace family picture with photoshopped version with a specter in the background at Halloween. Switch to embarrassing child photo for your brother when his girlfriend's phone's bluetooth ID is detected.
Nice one. I have been waiting patiently for full colour epaper to hit the market, for the explicit purpose of having a digital picture frame that isn't a bright lcd affaIr. looks like there are finally some reasonably sized 4096 color displays coming onto the market now. Would love to see a similar project done with those!
Meanwhile I can't even get the mono and two-color Waveshare e-paper displays to work when I _copy and paste their code samples._ Am I just dumb? 😩 Please continue with your in-depth videos, they're not only interesting and educational, they're inspiring! 👍
You could probably put a small solar panel on the back. Even indoors out of direct sunlight it would be generating more than enough microamps of current to keep the batteries topped up.
A very nice job. I would add a magnetic reed switch to flip to the next picture. Maybe a battery low corner indicator but like you said, the time to recharge is very long. Liked.
I'd've added a charging port for after the jig was up. Two years is great, of course, but if it's chargeable I'd see it easily getting more use. Then I'd also have used a wireless enabled chip (probably with a magnetic reed switch to turn the wireless on) so that I could secretly update the pictures when I visit.
LOL that's barely a prank at all, just a surprising gift! I thought for sure at first that this is a prime scenario for photo-shopping a ghost into the background of a normal picture, and it only appears on some nights of the week. Otherwise it could look like just a static photo. or maybe the facial expressions get changed sometimes. Something subtle like that would be a really funny but long term prank.
I think for a lot of people the thought of losing their grip on reality is their greatest fear, so that being said giving your mom a picture frame that makes her think she's crazy is....hilarious. So long as you eventually reveal the secret to her!
**Come with hopes there is a smart person making smart stuff while being smart** **finds a mentally ill dude wearing a face blanket in his own house** **lesve laughing my ars off**
That's pretty sweet. A minor thing you could improve in your videos is to use a pop filter for the microphone. Some of the "P"s in (e.g. in "paper") put a bit of pressure on the ears.
My first idea would have been picking an image with her on it and slightly zooming in on her every cycle to see when she notices or if at some point she just has a close up image of her face standing around.
E-Ink is one of the best technology inventions of the last 15-ish years ... I knew we would eventually get them in color I just didn't think it would be this soon. Nice project!
Should've gone for the long con. Letting it "settle in" to its new environment would help lower suspicion for when it does finally change, and lower its chance of discovery.
Imagine if the frame had a small solar panel tucked away on an edge or such, like the type on the old simple calculators, and could charge itself. Work to make it a bit thinner, add an SD card slot or USB-C port (which could do the once every two years charge if necessary) for the end user to access easily, and then sell it on Amazon. I'd totally buy one! The current type of digital frame with a cord doesn't work well for wall mounting, at least not cleanly, but this seems like a very viable solution.
Really gotta watch those plosives on your microphone. Offset the direction its pointed at you so its not directly infront of your mouth (especially with a lapel mic) or get a pop filter and move a little further back from it.
I had to stop watching @1:37 when the dude coding alone in a room by himself is wearing a mask. Cool concept for an e-ink display, I bet the product turned out neat.
I might have found this years later, but I did something similar with a PI, UPS backup hat, some python code and an 18650 battery. I needed a shadowbox frame to make everything fit. I also need to charge it roughly once every 2 weeks to keep it running. Time for a new project!
Two years later, this guy commented; If you chose had for example, a person, was in the scene. The person could move into a different position, outfit, you could even tell a story. Every day, the person could maybe have a change in clothing, but only one piece at a time, until several days later they have changed clothes. Then if the scene slowly changed into another scene. Maybe the person is at a museum looking at a painting, eventually it turns into that person at work, standing a few steps away maybe looking in a different direction, looking at the copies in their hands. Things would need to be stable in the scenes. Like the picture would probably not move or change size, but the scene inside of the frame could change. What if the painting that was inside the phone, was of them, looking at a painting of them in the museum, and it would change as the picture changed? I imagine that the copy machine could have been something that was barred off with one of those ropes that clip onto those poles, and eventually the piece in the museum would disappear little by little and a table top copier placed there and the front rope would disappear first and the side ropes eventually change into something, or maybe the ropes could be close enough to the table. One day the copier on the table would change into a large copier that has multiple trays and all that. Not to mention about the rest of the scene slowly transforming. If a second person would be added, how noticeable would it be, or what if there was someone else looking at a different painting, off in the distance, at the museum, and they slowly came closer over time. With only one small change happening at a time, would the additional complications from the second person make it more difficult to see the differences.
The smart thing to do with this is to take the same photo and make subtle and terrifying changes to it over the course of the entire two years to make the person feel like they're going insane or the thing is haunted.
I thought that was the idea... Get a group pic and start changing things moving people around, adding famous people, putting weird hats every day. Someone did that manually swapping the picture every day until their parents noticed, can't find the video.
exactly this!
or something like dorian gray would be funny
Back to the future. That would be a great prank.
This might be the best idea there has ever been in the history of humanity!
Your Mom is a great user - she knew exactly that it has changed itself after 24 hours and only asked you for a single "Yes Mum!" :)
She probably opened the picture frame the moment she thought something was weird XD
Behind the any smart man defensively is a smart Mom.
Great project, but not so sure about trying to make his mum think she has Alzheimer's. Happy that she knew exactly what was going on.
@@makers_lab BARF. give it up. You don't have to find something to complain about with everything you come across. And that one's a stretch.
@@TheTuttle99 Of course that wasn't his intention, and it's a fun gag, but it wouldn't have been nice to have pushed it further.
"Mom look what I made" is a feeling, same for kids of all ages.
I'm glad I could still do that for my mom.
I wish I understood that feeling
@@Mega-Brick :(
The fact that she realised it changed means she really liked it and put it on display where she would be able to look at it everyday ❤️
"Bill, shall I throw this POS gift out? It's the same damn picture as I already got, how did he not know? Oh wait, never mind".
He totes promised me he wouldn't say anything.
"Damnit mom you were supposed to be confused not appreciative!"
I figured she just tried to switch out the photo and use the frame since she already had it up. Then she noticed all the wires and was like, nope...
1:04 the way this changes on this particular photo looks awesome... it looks like the light is turning on and illuminating the scene
I think this is a particularly compelling aspect of the display.
It looks a lot like the RDR2 loading screens with the developing film, it looks really cool!
@s8wc3 No kidding! Even sort of blinking like an old Neon light struggling to start up.
Needs to change over more often, a charging circuit and a USB socket is in order.
@@HarryPorpise thats what I was going to say it really does
This is actually a really good implementation of a digital photo frame. The use of e-ink and only changing the photo every 24 hours (or more) makes it much more unobtrusive than the ones that were such a fad over a decade ago.
Absolutely. Add a changeable battery and maybe bleutooth for changing images and this is a great product.
It's literally just the screen. It doesn't come with malware or ANY ware.
The guy had to make his own driver for it.
Did you even watch the video?
@@tenalpoen they are referring to an incident with old digital photo frames that had malware. that's why he said "like the old ones"
Everyone knows about those.
This is not a digital photo frame product being sold by anyone.
It's just a display with no driver, power supply, or anything else.
If you were to buy it, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it on its own.
@@tenalpoen yeah he was just making a joke lmao
I really think what you should have done was have a series of the same picture, but edited more and more with Photoshop so that it diverged more and more from reality over time (change the position of people, fiddle with hairstyles, change the color of clothing, etc), and saw how long it took her to notice that something wasn't right...
This is a very good suggestion, the best thing he could have done!
Had the same idea! Made subtle changes to make her lose her mind haha. And only change things every few days or once a week - not once a day.
@@Melian_Dialogue Dude, you and all the people saying "don't make your mom think she's got memory/congnitive issues, that's a mean thing to do" can really shut up. Don't you realise this kind of "joke" can be played on almost anybody? It's not made extra funny just because you do it to an older person. Literally most normal people aren't thinking that, I've only seen it mentioned in comments criticising the joke!
There are some "stars" that need to line up for this to work, namely you need someone who would appreciate such a gift in the first place, and actually still puts up pictures around the house, but someone that's not gonna fuss over matching styles and reframing the photo, etc etc. A mom makes perfect sense for this kind of thing... and sure you get some wholesome points for it too, but the joke works just as well if it were some 22 y/o doing it to their 49 y/o mom, no need to have connotations of "going senile". You and others are just fabricating that, because it seems you can't fathom such a joke being ok?
I really like this idea! I wish I had thought of this more before doing it. If only I had two moms.
My thoughts exactly! Could have been a much better pay off
When I saw the title and the thumbnail, I thought you were making a picture frame that, when your mother was visiting, displayed an edited version of a picture with some family member she didn't get along with edited out.
I'm very pleased that the actual project was so much more wholesome, and that it worked so well, and that your mom didn't seem remotely surprised that you made something like this. Cheers!
Thanks :)
I was thinking they were going to do like a photoshop type prank where while no one noticed a picture is taken and then added to the picture frame.
Covid believers tend to not ask many questions.
Based on the thumbnail and title I assumed the video was going to be a prank in the more typical sense where when your mother is alone it displays a ghost in the background of the photos but when other people are there the ghost disappears.
@@DieselRamcharger I am very sorry that I have to disappoint you. There's no reason for "believe" here at all. Such things can easily be proved by science.
Your saying says a lot more about you than you might be aware of, because apparently YOUR world view is based on such naive foundations and you simply infer others from yourself. So you made just an absolute complete idiot out of yourself beside that you brabble was off-topic. Oh and you can't be a troll. They have usually more than one brain-cells (in most cases two ... so that they can be friends in that desert).
What would be a bit more tricky would be to load it with a number of almost identical shots. Usually for family photos you’d take maybe 6 shots and the choose the best, imagine check the photo each morning and wondering if that expression on someone’s face was the same as yesterday?
That is *really* sneaky!
10 minutes of Ben being a technical wizard and a bonus minute of Ben's mom being twice as smart as he is. ❤
was half hoping each day was a subtly different edited picture and after 2 months its a completely different picture... and now i'm imagining frames from a video that progressively gets weirder
amazing idea and really sweet execution
A couple other people have suggested similar ideas. I really like it.
For anyone that's thinking of making something like this today, there's this company called Pimoroni that has made a board with an eink display, rpi pico w, SD card reader, and some other features built right in. They also have custom firmware that makes setting pictures super easy. Highly recommend if you want something more simple and easy to set up
Your mum has a great son, actually.
Your code is optimised (in first look), and you always do great job with all of your projects.
Thanks
Because every "great son" tries to make their mother think she has Alzheimer's? :(
@@seanseoltoir oh shut up you old hack
Because only a great son writes efficient code
You say moving forward your videos wont be as in depth? I really loved the depth of this project and i think its a really cool idea
Agree.
This is literally the most liked video I have ever made at 1,000 views, I think. We're at under 3,000 and I'm already up to 630 likes. So, maybe I can't get out of making other videos like this?
I certainly enjoy the more in depth videos
@@CNLohr Yassssss!
@@CNLohr I think the problem is: you explain clearly your what you want to do, and how you achieved it. Some of your other videos turned me off, because somewhere along the way you lost me. I generally like what you do, and am really impressed by the amount of knowledge you have, I myself couldn't implement a protocol like scsi for life of me, but the process there sometimes is long winded and hard to understand, so I get it that editing this down and preparing a nice presentation is really hard.
Floyd-Steinberg dithering is awesome. I like how simple it is, and that it only looks ahead in the buffer, not requiring a second buffer for final image storage("In-place").
It really is amazing, but I found out bizquit has something that's even better for some applications. I hope to try it in the future. Look up "Joel Yliluoma's arbitrary-palette positional dithering algorithm"
@@CNLohr Hehe, already knew that one :P
It's great though, way more capable than "vanilla" Floyd-Steinberg(but also more complex). bizquit is awesome, he's the main reason I started doing graphics programming.
+1 for in depth video
Ok, ok, I get it. This comment has 42 upvotes.
My Gosh! I clicked on this just because the Title was Interesting. The level of Detail and all the technical Knowledge you provided to us is just Phenominal. Thank You for taking the time!
I had no ida there was a 7 colour display like this. It honestly looks really good. Cool project too, it's funny how mum's are pleased even if they don't understand it haha.
I think a lot of people would rather have something like this because it's less distracting when you have it in your living room. It's also cool to see it change if it changes every hour or so. You can have all your memories in one house now!
@@kurtlamprecht93 No you haven't. The reason why you couldn't store all your memories in your house is because you were unable to frame every picture. technically you can have a photo album or box of photos, but what I'm saying is very different. You don't really have all of your memories when it's in a box or the hard drive of a computer. Having an e-inc display for photos gives you some of those memories back because otherwise they would be collecting dust or taking up storage on your phone or something like that. You are right, but if you're going to go that far you could easily say that the only place where all of your memories are stored is your brain.
I think to confuse her you could've photoshopped a series of the same photo, just move persons around, add hats etc. Then it could've taken a while to really figure out what has happened. But more seriously, that's a sweet gift!
Bro wears a mask programming alone in his house 😂
With glasses, I could never
yea I could not believe the insanity....
😮
edit: yea its 3 year old video, but still...I would never ever, even then😂😂😂😂
LOLZ the brainwashing is strong with this one.
Bro not posted a video in 6 months. Hope he's fully boosted.
since he left a little bit of the audio from the b roll videos in the background i kept thinking there was someone talking in my house...... i live alone.....
also wtf is the point of wearing a mask when your alone or when your just gonna take it off when you talk
Really awesome. I once gave my mother an electronic picture frame, but the required power supply forced it permanently inside a drawer.
thanks for linking the Applied Science video in the description. that was actually really interesting to watch!
What an awesome project, thanks for sharing!
I like your attempt at trying to do a kind of profiling of the displayed colors through photographing it at around 04:55 - Color calibration and color management is a deep rabbit hole and I appreciate you including this in the video. I think the flaw was that what you did would be only useful at providing the palette for a soft proofing profile on your LC or Oled display of your computer. To extract the display-able colors you would have to measure them under a known light source and also correct for the reflectance of the display (this is why your black levels where off and looked washed out). Nonetheless a very exciting project 😍👍
I think the biggest issue was that I cannot accurately display the colors because they are not as vivid. So, doing it the way I landed on provides the "most" vividness that can be done without supersaturation.
Yes exactly. This is because the gamut volume of the display is far smaller because it is based on subtractive color science and not additive. Meaning it can only reflect light and not produce it like say an Oled panel. This is also why printing color spaces are narrower than display color spaces. So soft proofing is used on the display to simulate the narrower space of a printing medium. Additionally, you are basically working with a kind of 3bit display 😂 so only 1 bit for brightness info and 2bits for the shades and then using dithering to trick the eye into seeing colors that are not there. But actually using the palette you derived from the picture you took in the conversion algorithm would basically be a way to soft proof or simulate, what the final picture would look under the specific lighting conditions you took the photo under. So you could technically use it in extreme cases to then adjust the original picture (say you observed severe banding on the eInk display and wanted to adjust the picture before converting it again), then simulate the output on your pc monitor without the need to send it to your mum to put it on the display, maybe tweak it again and then use the 'optimal' palette on the picture for the final conversion. Anyways this is a great example of color spaces and working with limited color volume 👍
I really appreciated all of the detail that you went into here. I hope that you make more videos like that.
"A sort of Purply, Whiteish color." -CNLohr
"Pink?" -Me.
E ink is awesome stuff, cant wait for them to get even better.
27th - 29th April at Taiwan Touch (a fair) a new generation of E Ink will be presented. This new gen of screens will be able too do animations and videos. They didn't announce a refreshrate. I can't wait for it.
@kızgın tosbağa 15 second refresh is kinda slow
@kızgın tosbağa Even for a color e-reader. Waiting 15 seconds to turn the page of a color comic book is a bit tedious.
@kızgın tosbağa did you mean to say "seconds" ?
@kızgın tosbağa It would be very good as a billboard since you only need to turn on lights at light. During the day it would use almost no power.
This video is now 3 years old... where can i buy the whole product? Development should be downscaled everything with a nice low production cost figure and some dedicated software to render the pictures... 😅 damn this should be mass produced man! Very nice gift, much nicer than the bukly 2010s lcd picture frames.
cool - I need to get one of those displays asap! game changer for e-paper
Get it
I want to make one of these for a friend but just use, like, 20 images in sequence that are just the same picture of us but more and more zoomed in for each one, until after a couple of weeks it’s just, like, their eyes or something.
What an incredible video! Love how much detail you put into what could have just been a basic rundown of a silly project!
This was an amazing investigation and implementation, I've never seen any other TH-camr, colleague, or person be more invested in a project than you normally do.
I usually don't go in unless I go all in :-D
i want to make something like this for one of my siblings and have it slowly zoom in over the course of like 3 months
That would be really cool. It's unfortunate the color displays need to redraw the whole display to update.
Or make them slowly get fatter lol
This just gave me an idea for a photo where the eyes follow you.
I read the title as "epaper picture that changes my mum", i.e. a nice family pic that cycles through potential other mothers you could've had? I think my mum would appreciate that.
That's how i read the first time too lol
Finish what you started!!!
Figure out how to get this produced and sold!
I'm retired now and frustrated at all the times I made things and had no idea how cool customers would have thought they were if I'd only made them available! 😬😅
There will only ever be one!
@@CNLohr I would buy it because I have no time for making it myself. Love the idea.
You can buy a changing picture frame. It just uses more power, so it has a wire attached to it.
@@weorldedit That's the problem these days. There is always a tradeoff between high fidelity and high power consumption. With people so used to plugging/charging any and every electronic device they own, they rather have a 4K smart picture frame that uses 10W and needs a power cable, than a dithered, low-res e-ink one that lasts over a year on a single 760mAh charge.
Mom is not surprised at all.. anywho great work man.
Love this idea, any thoughts on how to tie this in with something like a Google photos album? Additional steps would be to connect to wifi, download the new image and then process it. I wonder what additional power consumption would be?
Considering the ESP8266 does great deep sleep, you could probably make it last a loong time. That said, this uses a little less power.
If it was me I'd take a photo of a group of 20 people and photoshop multiple iterations until eventually no one was left. Each night it would update and someone would vanish from the frame, like a Soviet-era purge.
You should have made a replica of the original photo, then switched it out to the changing one haha..
You should’ve photoshopped different details in a single picture and got it to changes a few small details every night and see how long it would take her to notice.
Like a find the differences game.
A few other people have suggested that, and it's a *really* good idea.
This is above my level of understanding, but, this is completely awesome. eInk displays have come a long way and I hope for a very long and bright future for them.
Someday I hope to play with them in a way where I can control them with more fidelity.
Your mom is so sweet, I wouldn't have the heart to gaslight her into thinking she was going bonkers either.
OMG, the prank/gaslighting possibilities for this are hilarious/terrifying. e.g. Replace family picture with photoshopped version with a specter in the background at Halloween. Switch to embarrassing child photo for your brother when his girlfriend's phone's bluetooth ID is detected.
I hadn't considered any of these when I made this!
note, i absolutely loved how in-depth this video was. you seem like you know a lot of cool stuff :)
Nice one. I have been waiting patiently for full colour epaper to hit the market, for the explicit purpose of having a digital picture frame that isn't a bright lcd affaIr. looks like there are finally some reasonably sized 4096 color displays coming onto the market now. Would love to see a similar project done with those!
Would be cool!
Not really a prank, more like a unique gift that ended up being wholesome in the end! 😊
Meanwhile I can't even get the mono and two-color Waveshare e-paper displays to work when I _copy and paste their code samples._ Am I just dumb? 😩 Please continue with your in-depth videos, they're not only interesting and educational, they're inspiring! 👍
Use a logic analyzer to look at the waveforms and make sure they are correct.
That's really nice that you did that for your mom. very cool project!
Woah 7 colors, that's amazing
You could probably put a small solar panel on the back. Even indoors out of direct sunlight it would be generating more than enough microamps of current to keep the batteries topped up.
I've thought about that, I'd just worry it would have given it away even moreso.
Awesome! can't wait for e-paper displays to come down in price a little more
To change the colors using the color palette, I find it easier by using a gradient map.
I am also a big waveshare fan. I'm really looking forward to a 2.7 inch 7-color display.
Awesome. would this work with an ESP8266 or ESP32?
A very nice job. I would add a magnetic reed switch to flip to the next picture. Maybe a battery low corner indicator but like you said, the time to recharge is very long. Liked.
All good ideas, but my mom's birthday came too soon.
I'd've added a charging port for after the jig was up. Two years is great, of course, but if it's chargeable I'd see it easily getting more use. Then I'd also have used a wireless enabled chip (probably with a magnetic reed switch to turn the wireless on) so that I could secretly update the pictures when I visit.
1:30 top-right: How to avoid getting the computer virus version of CoViD
_Touches mask every 10s_ uh oh lol
Tries to prank his mom and actually gives her a gift she loves because it's not one of those ugly electronic displays but has a lot of new pics
What a neat idea! I love electronics projects, and this one seems like a pretty fun gift idea!
Missed opportunity. Should have been a landscape photo of someone in the distance and every day they get just a little closer to the camera.
So many good ideas since this video recently exploded.
LOL that's barely a prank at all, just a surprising gift! I thought for sure at first that this is a prime scenario for photo-shopping a ghost into the background of a normal picture, and it only appears on some nights of the week. Otherwise it could look like just a static photo. or maybe the facial expressions get changed sometimes. Something subtle like that would be a really funny but long term prank.
Mom falls for nothing.
Awesome video, keep the video format
Ok, just one more.
You should have kept the same picture but every night the eyes of every person in it start bleeding
I think for a lot of people the thought of losing their grip on reality is their greatest fear, so that being said giving your mom a picture frame that makes her think she's crazy is....hilarious. So long as you eventually reveal the secret to her!
Or she saw riiight through it.
Lol, I’m proud when I find a library that does what I need, and this guy WRITES them!
**Come with hopes there is a smart person making smart stuff while being smart**
**finds a mentally ill dude wearing a face blanket in his own house**
**lesve laughing my ars off**
All of that set up and planning just for your Mum to see right through it. DANG.
Did he... was he.... wearing a mask... all alone.... in his house?
They have a picture frame version!
I will get mine tomorrow, I hope its good.
I applaud you for wearing a mask inside your home. Thank you for keeping yourself safe from yourself!
Wow your mom knew exactly what was going on, i would have been thinking i was going crazy for a while seeing how well you packaged everything
That's pretty sweet.
A minor thing you could improve in your videos is to use a pop filter for the microphone. Some of the "P"s in (e.g. in "paper") put a bit of pressure on the ears.
Unfortunately, I still did not have one for my upcoming video... but, I will get one sooner or later.
My first idea would have been picking an image with her on it and slightly zooming in on her every cycle to see when she notices or if at some point she just has a close up image of her face standing around.
Nice work, but your mum is just too smart!
this video (and especially the new style of editing and recording) was awesome! I know it's quite a lot of work, but I think it's worth it...
I've got one more video like it now, that I really put a ton of effort into. Hopefully it gets approved by all parties and will release this week.
@@CNLohr Very cool! I'm subscribed to the Patreon and will be watching out for it :)
like when you do something expecting to surprise or amaze anyone ... and finally for them is pretty normal :-(
E-Ink is one of the best technology inventions of the last 15-ish years ... I knew we would eventually get them in color I just didn't think it would be this soon. Nice project!
Thanks!
Imagine streaming alone with a fucking mask on lmao
Should've gone for the long con. Letting it "settle in" to its new environment would help lower suspicion for when it does finally change, and lower its chance of discovery.
10:00 bro you kinda laugh like hank hill
Imagine if the frame had a small solar panel tucked away on an edge or such, like the type on the old simple calculators, and could charge itself.
Work to make it a bit thinner, add an SD card slot or USB-C port (which could do the once every two years charge if necessary) for the end user to access easily, and then sell it on Amazon.
I'd totally buy one! The current type of digital frame with a cord doesn't work well for wall mounting, at least not cleanly, but this seems like a very viable solution.
I show people what's possible. I want to inspire others to make the products.
this is pretty darn cool
Wow, that was nice of you to wait until it was back in stock before posting
It's been so long now, and it's been in and out of stock many times since.
Well... That was anticlimactic.
Really gotta watch those plosives on your microphone. Offset the direction its pointed at you so its not directly infront of your mouth (especially with a lapel mic) or get a pop filter and move a little further back from it.
1:48 why do you wear a "breathing" mask indoors?
You could use this to make a back to the future styled photo where people start to disappear slowly fading away haha
Sadly the whole screen has to be updated at once.
No offense meant, but as soon as I say the mask at a family Christmas.... I knew a sense of humor probably wasn't her strong suit.
I had to stop watching @1:37 when the dude coding alone in a room by himself is wearing a mask. Cool concept for an e-ink display, I bet the product turned out neat.
You pranked her real hard. Momma has no time for your shenanigans.
Sitting home by yourself wearing a mask to work on a computer.
I might have found this years later, but I did something similar with a PI, UPS backup hat, some python code and an 18650 battery. I needed a shadowbox frame to make everything fit. I also need to charge it roughly once every 2 weeks to keep it running. Time for a new project!
This lasts about 1.5 years on a charge it seems. Of two tiny quadcopter batteries.
i am buying this now!!!
Very creative - love watching what other makers are up to
why TF are you wearing a mask in your home while you are by yourself? Big brain moment.
Maybe he was expecting a visitor.
Two years later, this guy commented;
If you chose had for example, a person, was in the scene. The person could move into a different position, outfit, you could even tell a story. Every day, the person could maybe have a change in clothing, but only one piece at a time, until several days later they have changed clothes. Then if the scene slowly changed into another scene. Maybe the person is at a museum looking at a painting, eventually it turns into that person at work, standing a few steps away maybe looking in a different direction, looking at the copies in their hands. Things would need to be stable in the scenes. Like the picture would probably not move or change size, but the scene inside of the frame could change. What if the painting that was inside the phone, was of them, looking at a painting of them in the museum, and it would change as the picture changed? I imagine that the copy machine could have been something that was barred off with one of those ropes that clip onto those poles, and eventually the piece in the museum would disappear little by little and a table top copier placed there and the front rope would disappear first and the side ropes eventually change into something, or maybe the ropes could be close enough to the table. One day the copier on the table would change into a large copier that has multiple trays and all that. Not to mention about the rest of the scene slowly transforming. If a second person would be added, how noticeable would it be, or what if there was someone else looking at a different painting, off in the distance, at the museum, and they slowly came closer over time. With only one small change happening at a time, would the additional complications from the second person make it more difficult to see the differences.
You wear a mask in your own home? 🤨