I have seen over the past 5 years 3 different doctors who all insisted that I take statins for my high LDL and total cholesterol levels despite my low triglycerides and high HDL levels. I refused the statins. One doctor dropped me as a patient due to my refusal to take them. I no longer trust most physicians. If I break a bone or need antibiotics or treatment for some acute condition I will absolutely seek medical help but for anything else? No thanks.
and still it is said in the beginning of the podcast we should not make a decision on what he says, and ask the sea of deceptive doctors. Both obviously are afraid of possible juristic consequences...
@@tomsawyer2112 Sadly that is the case. Litigation against cholesterol lowering drugs as a class, is needed. Getting someone involved like RFK Jr. who is experienced in dealing with the military industrial comolex, would be helpful? At least Prof. Tim Noakes and MD Gary Fettke had success standing up against the SDA-controlled dietary guidelines.
@@tomsawyer2112 Exactly, what a contradiction! Check out cardiologist Nadir Amir ,(hope thats right) he says in beginning. "I have NO disclaimers here" Now, you have my attention.
@@LaRoucheisright In my understanding, if you don't defer to the establishment at the beginning of whatever you write or say, you disappear from the screens. How honest of the establishment!
Update, my latest LDL 200, HDL97, Tryg67; this time my dr became very upset and told me I was going to drop dead one of these days from CVD/stroke. She pushed meds again. One more time I requested a CAC test, and finally, she wrote the order. But she did prescribe something without my approval because I pick up my allergies med and this cholesterol-lowering (not statin) that actually lowers tryg with little impact on LDL. I know she thought she was having my best interest in mind, but that is simply wrong; however, I did not want to get her in trouble. Fast forward, I did my CAC test, and my result is 0 in all coronary arteries and the heart parameters are unremarkable. My risk for vascular disease shows as minimal, actually, as better than 100% of people my age (I am 66). Case closed; no more pushing cholesterol-lowering medications. Usually, I call to discuss my lab reports, this time she calls me quick to say everything was good. I guess it was hard to accept a mistake and see the patient you were harassing in the face. I am glad I stood my ground, but there might be people with high levels of chronic disease that benefit from medications. The problem is that Drs follow written standards of care that pile everybody under one umbrella. We are not copies of each other; human physiology is specific to each.
Good job on staying educated and responsible for your own welfare. It is hard to stay healthy even when you have all of the facts. I am a 63 y.o. fighting the slow growth of an older Dad body. The culprit is an M&M candy habit. My main metrics are A1C (measures glucose bound to hemoglobin) and my faithful leather belt. My A1C was 4.7% two months ago and is currently 5.4%. I am good with anything under 5% so I am reducing number of meals from 2 to 1 per day (OMAD) but I am still going to have some M&Ms (this is a first world problem...). My belt will hopefully drop a notch after a month or so of this. Will be continuing rigorous exercise for the limited blood glucose reduction as well as for brain health. Just say no to drugs (do you remember that public health message?).
Your 200 LDL (convert 5.18 mmol/L ) mine is high 6.3 😊 I also have high cholesterol which I have had for years. Might ask for a CAC test or stress tests
Did you have a CIMT? A CAC is one of two necessary tests to ensure your numbers are nothing to worry about. 🙏🏻 pls check. My SO CAC was 0 but the CIMT showed a unstable 60% blockage in his neck.
Thanks for the input,Dr.I try to educate myself, but I realize it's very important from whom you get your information. I see the cardiologist in a few days, we'll see how the conversation goes. She said cut out saturated fat, so I have been trying to eat less of that and stick to olive and avocado oils. Adding a few carbs back ,but I don't want to put on weight either! I did reverse my insulin resistance to insulin sensitivity now, so she did like that!!!🤣
@@jennifercaldwell7665 👍 Good on you for reversing your insulin resistance!! Unless that was addressed then None of your efforts at losing weight and keeping it off would have worked out well. I had No idea that you could bring your fasting blood sugar under control, even get your AIc at good levels, and Still have High Insulin levels!? It's NOT tested for in ordinary blood tests!🤔 It's usually only ordered when doctors can't get diabetic glucose levels down!?🤔 It sometimes takes a lot of fasting over a year, and of course eating Low Carb, to fix this issue, from what I've been able to learn.
@@jennifercaldwell7665 My cardiologist is a good doctor but he does not think out of the box, meaning he just knows how to write RX for issues. He ignores nutrition, except for what the drug company recommends, which s low fat, high carb for the most part. I've so loved getting educated by many doctors for the last 21 months.
52:55 for cognitive effects of interfering with cholesterol production. As Diamond says, your brain needs cholesterol to make memories. And as Georgia Ede says, "The brain makes its own cholesterol. Why would it make something really bad for you? It wouldn't. It's really smart. It's a brain."
September 2023: I had my yearly exam with my primary care provider (an internist MD who says he is an expert on lipidology and cholesterol) yesterday, and I told him my concerns about statins. I cited the Mayo Clinic and the National Institute of Health (USA). He said this made him angry; he compared my remarks to those of anti-vaxxers, and said that this was nonsense, coming from functional medicine practitioners, who are killing their patients by not prescribing statins. I expected him to disagree, but not to be so dismissive. Now I am looking for another primary care provider.
Doc immediately told me to take statins. Did research. Didn't want to take the risks and wasn't clear it would help. Stopped eating sugar. 1 year later: normal levels, best shape of my life. Now three years later: weight, numbers, health maintained easily.
@@ScorpionF1RE_USA doctor will simply tell you not to believe anything from the internet... In which case watching this video was a waste of time. Just obey your doctor blindly like a dog to his master
I was put on Statins - before being on them, my LDL was 3.9 mmmo/l - My A1C was Normal, My Triglycerides were normal, My Tri/HDL ratio was less than 1 (mmo/l) - but they screamed I needed to be on statins STAT reciting risk factors taken from who knows when at the behest of who knows what!... I was not obese nor overweight 6'1 @ 185lbs. Since taking going on statins, my ALT (Liver Enzymes) doubled. My AIC went from normal to "At risk". My subsequent blood work had my ALT doubling again and my A1C creeping towards pre diabetes as well as other odd abnormalities in almost every subsequent blood work since going on the Statins. So I did some research - I could find a lot of sources with compelling arguments to not (for my scenario) be on statins. It seemed to me this Statin religion was a big pharma cash cow. I Did more research. Things got scary I'll tell ya. From what I was searching you would think articles and videos etc stating " you should be on Statins" would also be coming at me - but no. Why were there basically none of these? I did the best of my own research and I couldn't find a logical reason to be on them - my blood work (other than a lower LDL count) were screaming "somethings not right here". So, this week - in front of a new, young, "progressive" Dr. I told him, I've done research, and I have found there is not a lot of evidence that these will be beneficial for me in fact to the contrary - I dont want to be on these anymore. He looked at me with that look that says "I have to tell you - that you understand the risk of coming off them - to not have my licence suspended - but I cant disagree with you". So Im off! And I have a feeling that my liver will thank me.
Omg patients need to stand up to Doctors!! I’m lean, and super healthy. My LDL is 176. I flat out told my Dr “don’t even think about offering me statins because I refuse!” She knows I don’t play into the big Pharma bullshit!!! I’m a perfectly healthy 57 year old woman, I look amazing and feel amazing!! If you stick with a diet of natural foods, God takes care of the rest! The human body is incredible!!
Wow! This was a great interview and discussion. Every doctor that can prescribe a statin drug along with every cardiologist should be required to sit through this video.
I agree I 'm a walker ,& I don't want to have anything prevent me from walking. My L DL is high right now but I am doing a lot of walking. & it raised my HDL from 50 to 68 & that helps me keep off a statin.
@@jennieosborne3530 Great job improving your HDL number!! I'm almost positive that your tryclerides level is quite Low!,... right?🤔 If that's the case, then you are doing just FINE!!😉... As it's the 'Ratio' between those two lipids that truly Matters!!😊
Yesterday I met a younger cardiologist for a CAC scan. It turned out that this was just another screen before authorization for the scan. She looked at my lipids and said, just the the referring internist , your LDL of 217, Total Cholesterol of 310 means you need statins. I asked what about my HDL of 76 and my Triglycerides of 73 and that I’m 68 and feel great? She never got that far, she just clearly looks at LDL and TC. I asked her if she was sure I needed statins even if I hadn’t had the CT scan yet and that she had no clue what my heart status was. She pulled up some publication from the Cardiology main publication and read to me what her instructions are when someone like me sees her. She actually had to get permission for the scan referral since I wasn’t taking her advice. I am not impressed by Cardiologists with clear exceptions like Bret.
@@carmijok1 I won't take statins because of the side effects. I walk everywhere I don't want leg cramps. Or liver problems I don't want memory problems. I'm alone & I don't trust the medical profession. Then the person will still eat the same then the statin won't do any good. It's me changing how I eat & how much I eat. Then it's the ingredients they put in the food. It's not what just the food itself. They put junk in the food that makes a difference. That is why more people are becoming diabetic & obese. I f more healthy ingredients were put in what we eat there would be less problems.
When I took the statin I tested my brain age and it had desastrours effect on my brain age. I refused it, and I am back to my young age! Started my low carb high protein diet, walking 3.9 miles a day and am back to normal!
Same for me. Statins caused a debilitating depression that impacted my quality of life, my career, everything. Forgetting to refill that drug, doing research on it (which I should have done first), and finding Dr. Paul Mason led me to keto, to all the great keto/carnivore docs on YT, and most important, to the best health of my life. Down 70lbs in 9 months, on zero meds, metabolic syndrome reversed, and my mental health, memory, engagement with life, and learning ability all restored!
I went low carb and intermittent fasting 2 meals. My labs at the time show my LDL 170, but my HDL 63 and Triglycerides were normal 92 with a good HDL/trigl ratio. I was however prediabetic. Fast forward, I did my labs again this month, and my A1C is fixed, no longer showing I am prediabetic. Once again she tries to prescribe me statins. These are my recent labs, LDL 173, HDL 90%, and triglycerides of 76, bp is always normal too. Once again she said, the total is higher now, I asked do you think HDL is bad a 90%, and trygly 76. "No it is actually very good, she responded. The risk ratio is actually 1.46 now. Case closed she insisted no more. All my liver and kidney, CBC, minerals are WNL. I am a happy camper, and I will continue my newfound way of managing my health with added exercise.
Your numbers are very close to Mine and the cardiologist prescribed a statin. I questioned the terrible side effects of statins and he simply said I should still take them so he wouldn’t have to see me getting heart surgery in 5 years. I’m not taking the statins and have found a new cardiologist. I’m low carb and my insulin is great!
Several older friends that took a statin had significant muscle issues. One, almost to the point of needing a wheelchair!! After he did research, went off the statin and is fully back to his active lifestyle. These are not minor side effects!
I am 56 years old and NEVER had an LDL over 120. I DID however, have high triglycerides and lower HDL (40-44) and high insulin resistance. Low LDL and STILL had a heart attack 5 months ago. To me, it's not the LDL but stress and the metabolic issues that caused my infarction. ALL my docs would talk about is lowering my LDL post heart attack....WHICH WAS ALREADY NOT HIGH. Not ONE would talk about lowering my triglycerides, raising HDL, losing weight, or insulin resistance! I went on the recommended low fat, low sodium and took my statins. When I got my bloodwork after 3 months on THEIR diet, ALL my nunbers were worse..except my LDL. The Docs were like "great!"...only caring about LDL. Meanwhile, I gained weight, felt lightheaded all the time, couldnt sleep, fatigue, and overall unhealthy. Switched to Keto and feel FANTASTIC! LDL be damned! Im listening to my body.
Same here, and I have a pacemaker and had bypass surgery 7 years ago. Put the statins in the garbage 6 years ago. HFLC about 5 years ago...NEVER FELT BETTER IN MY LIFE. Was on statins for a year.....FELT LIKE SHIT.
Exactly the same with me! Refused statin, started keto, now carnivore, working daily to build core fitness and improve functional mobility. Never felt better and I just turned 70. Lost all my belly fat and went from size 12 to size 6.
@@FelixChatSpot I stopped them too. They had me on warfarin. The best blood thinner is water. Stay well hydrated. These are the things I follow: keep insulin low with a low carb diet that is 95% whole food, daily exercise, both resistance and aerobic, get as much sun exposure without sunscreen, pink Himalayan salt to taste, get quality sleep. I’m 65 now, have a pacemaker and needed bypass surgery 8 years. Hope this helps!!!!
A very close relative developed dementia on statins. Changed to a different cholesterol lowering drugs and dementia 90% disappeared. This is common and needs to be much more widely known.
This is great. I had a triple bypass a month ago and of course they put me on statins. I was a fit 52 year old with no history of any illness. But my mother died of a heart attack so there's the key. My LDL was high and HDL was low with a ratio of 6. So that makes sense. I went out and got a naturopath doctor to work on fixing that and the first thing she stated was we'll work out a plan to get me off the Statin and Beta Blocker. Wish I would have known about all this 10 years ago...
I had a simiar experience 5 years ago, was put on statins by the cardiologist like it was required, and not my choice. Before leaving the hospital with 2 stents in my arteries, I had a conflict with a pissy nurse practitioner who delivered my list of prescriptions written by the cardiologist. I told her I intended to find an alternative for most of the pharmaceuticals, especially statins. She almost threatened me, saying if a patient doesn't follow the doctors orders, then their next visit might not get the same level of care. Bitch. Now the only pharmaceutical I take is baby aspirin daily. Instead of statins, I take Red Rice Yeast, which works just as well with NO other effects, side or otherwise.
@@billdickson1142 yep, since then I've found the Carnivore way of eating. 5 months now, over 40 lbs lost, and completely low-normal numbers for BP, Glucose (was diabetic, now not), and so much more is so much better now. After my heart incident, I was depressed and thinking life was going to end soon, but now I'm age 70, and feel like I'll be living a bit longer. Beef, Butter, Bacon, Eggs, and Salt is about all I eat now, with the occasional salmon or chicken meal (usually because it's all that's available at parties or restaurants), and love it. No cravings or any sort of problems. Life is good!
@@billdickson1142 LDL is in the high normal range, and from what I read it's really a bogus thing to focus on. I'm over 70 now, and my LDL SHOULD be going up. All other markets are flat normal, so no worries. I love confounding all the veggie fans. 😂
I am really liking Dr. Diamond's approach to studies and reseach in general. I so much appreciate the insights given in this interview, and of course, major kudos to Dr. Scher for doing this interview!
Great work Professor David Diamon! I have always ran away from medicines and resorted to natural foods because I've always thought that drug companies will always be looking at their bottom line (money). Great work Diet Doctor, by bringing Dr. Diamon to speak here so that millions can hear this.
I was on on a vegan diet for about 6 months after taking statins for about a decade. 6 months ago, I had a bunch of labs done and had high CRP with perfect cholesterol levels. Triglycerides were high and I was still prediabetic. I felt terrible. After weaning myself off of statins and going carnivore/ketovore with no pricessed foods, sugars, or alcohol for 5 months, I lost almost 30 lbs and 3" in the waist, feel awesome. HDL, Triglycerifes, and Trig/HDL ratio are within normal limits now. I am expecting my PCP to try to get me to go back on my statins when I go for my annual visit next week. Not a chance. I am getting my forgetful mother to cut back on her statins too.
Love this video. Anybody that studies cholesterol etc. numbers should look at my numbers, lol. I have every blood test going back 20 plus years. Cholesterol always over 300, LDL always above 200, HDL in the 50s. I'm now a 74 woman and have never taken a drug. Always refused. Been vegan for 30 years but now switching to keto because my A1C is creeping up and fasting blood sugar runs between the 90s to 115. Also noticed more tiredness so will try low carbs and maybe more meat. Granted it's not easy after just eating fruits and veggies but I don't want diabetes. Doctors of course don't want to see me since I refused their drugs.
I just had a doctor throw me off bc high cholesterol 79 yrs read woman live longer sans statins. Carnivore run two miles step race 8-12 weights and machines light weights. He was a Vegan or maybe the other plant diet . Anyway seemed very depressed was thinking I might help him ( Carnivores myself) but he dumped me. Hahaha
@@lynnwilliams5432 lol, you didn't loose much. Today's doctors are impossible to work with. Haven't seen one in 6 years. It's all drugs, drugs with them. Still struggling a little with carnivore but seeing results.
@@TH-camr-ep5xx I don't mind you're asking. I tried keto but it was not sustainable for me. I needed more carbs. My body became to acidic from so much meat. I'm back to fully vegan but eating very very simple meals and only 2 times per day. I noticed huge improvement when I did away all oils and only use real butter and a little olive oil for salad dressing if I want some. No other oils. I also wanted myself if the natural thyroid meds I was taking for 30 years. They were not drugs but I still was told that I had to take them for the rest of my life. Well, that was not acceptable to me. Nothing happened when I slowly removed them. Still not taking anything and never will. I won't listen to anyone anymore and do what makes me feel the best. Also, eating out is not an option anymore because I feel bad afterwards. I am sure they're using something in the cooking process. Aren't you glad you asked, hahaha
Me. I have high LDL and my sweet doctor feels so pulled in 2 directions. She ordered a scan to look for plaque in my arteries but insurance won’t pay. I was obese, high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, and a host of other ailments. Now I am near my goal weight, I work out regularly, and run/walk. All my numbers are great, feel better than my 40’s and 50’s (age 61) except for the disturbing LDL. What to do. What to do. I have decided BEFORE this interview, to continue my process. I am off all meds and plan to continue that.
When I was put on statins I had not so much aches as severe weakness in my leg muscles to the extent that I struggled with stairs and getting in and out of the car. And my doctor never even considered that I was pre-diabetic. LCHF lifestyle has reduced my risk of diabetes completely. Without statins I walk daily and hike on weekends.
I just got off phone with doc office..been on keto/IF Day 26.my LDL went up from 85 to 154..my AC1 went up 7.2 to7.9..but I've lost weight and all that severe inflammation is gone..I had to take a 6 week pain Management course ..pain pills..cortisone shots diabetic shoe inserts etc. I refused the meds he wants to give me..I can and been exercising because I'm no longer in pain..I had a stroke 6 yrs ago..tired of being on pills tired of being in pain.tore ACL years ago let it hold me back from moving.what can I take to fight this bad cholesterol without the pain from statins?
So amazing!! Thank you! Excellent info and great questions Dr. Scher! My husband has FH and has been confused about what meds to ask his doc about letting go of. Especially since he has been on a strict low carb lifestyle after his 3rd heart attack two months ago. He has been on a Statin and a plethora of meds for 8 yrs and has had no change in his arteries or heart function. In fact he has a 100% blockage in the same artery with blockages in 2 other arteries as well. We are excited that we are armed with better understanding! Thank you again!
I’m on a low carb diet and my good cholesterol is good but doc said the bad is high. He’s asked me to take a medication called Zetia saying it is not a statin. I’ve not taken it not knowing if I really need it. He is not interested at all in knowing about Keto or anything in doing. I’ve lost 50 pounds and am off two blood pressure meds and no more horrid inflammation. I walk for an hour in my hilly neighborhood.
You don't even have to exercise. Most of the people who live into their 90's never did any strenuous exercise since they got out of high school, nor, did they watch their diet for fat intake. The cholesterol 'kings' of research cannot explain why these people live so long, if dietary fats and having high cholesterol is so deadly. IN fact, once you're over 60, you have a better chance of living longer if we have HIGH cholesterol levels. Turns out fats are necessary for many metobolic processes which keep us healthy. What isn't necessary? SUGAR. Turns out, we can live just fine, eating ZERO carbohydrates. Our body can make it's own glucose, as needed.
I can tell you that I was put on Zocor, with no warning of any side effects. I fell into a very deep depression and my muscles ached 24/7. I had no clue that the Zocor was causing this and I started contemplating suicide. I did not want to go through the rest of my life in that kind of pain. When I stopped taking Zocor, the pain gradually disappeared. I still, to this day, 16 years later, refuse to take a statin.
I won't even go there going on a statin. I know what will happen to me. I will not be able to walk again & I walk to one hour & two hours a day. That's what raised my good cholesterol my HDL. Walking is the best thing for heart disease. Then I have to walk & take the bus everywhere. Because I can't afford to own a vehicle. & where I live I don't live near a grocery store. I will not take drugs that rot my liver out. Or cramp up my legs to where I can't walk again. Then I don't want to have memory problems. No thankyou then I quit smoking years back. I quit totally on my own then I'm working with my diet. I fill like I'm being pressured & not being allowed to go at my own pace. As far as what my numbers coming down. It takes time to get your body back to how it's suppost to. Until my LDL went up to over 200 I didn't get bothered about my cholesterol. I never had it high until I became overweight. At one time I use to be underweight. And I was healthier than I was being overweight. Because I functioned better when I was thin I had more energy & felt better. Then I was happier being thinner then I was able to eat what I wanted & not gain weight. I wish I had that back.
Wow, some people are just not sensitive to environmental changes. You are the perfect prey for the Pharma industry machine. Glad you got out it just in time.
I hope many Dr can read and listen to what Dr. Diamond says. Thank You Doc!! My Dr. want to put me on a statin however my CAC is 0 I just had this result last month. I am happy.
Dr. David Diamond's nickname should be The Debunk King! He has done one of the best jobs, of all the academics that I have watched in the health space, in his various TH-cam presentations, to refute the bad epidemiology that has been used to justify the use of statins or the purported link between meat and saturated fat with chronic maladies. When anybody expresses to me their faith in the so called "evidence based" ideas around these topics, I always refer them to Dr. Diamond's lectures, and if they are intellectually honest, they immediately become a skeptic.
When I point out the inconsistencies of the lipid hypothesis findings which the statin manufacturers use to 'prove' that we need to take their products, no one can give me an answer. It always seems to come back to, 'Everybody knows', as if it's always been a given that cholesterol and other dietary fats are the cause of heart and vascular disease. It's almost like a religion, the total loss of any critical thinking to question someone's belief which is based on NOTHING.
Anadotal Evidence: My muscle aches on statin were so bad that I couldn’t walk around the block without stopping to rest. My doctor thought I should just deal with it. I don’t take statins anymore and I have a new doctor who also wants to push me on statin but he’s dealing with the fact I won’t take them.
Thank you very much for this information. In the past 5 months, I have gone from obese and diabetic with high BP to having lowered all my Bio-markers to a healthy level. I am now facing an aggressive push from my doctor to address my moderately high LDL with a Statin. Very frustrating but I am going to (as was pointed out in this video) continue to take my own health decisions in hand based on my successes and continue on my present nutritional Ketogenic path.
Super excited to find this video. I have been a low-carb person naturally since I was a kid, and my cholesterol is aways boarderline high. After some weight loss (underweight bmi 16.5 right now) due to the GRED problem, I cut off more carbs since sugar causes reflux issues for me. The most recent lipid test is TG 79, HDL 114, LDL 183, Total 313. My doctor is seriously worried, and wants to prescribe statins. I do not want to take it since I think the current diet keep my GRED under control, and I do not have any other abnormal numbers except for this cholesterol thing. I guess now I can find peace since now I have a reason for my “weird” lipid numbers.
Request a CAC (coronary artery calcification test). You probably have to pay out of pocket. It is not really that expensive, and it will give you peace of mind knowing your risk and making the best decisions. I did that and MD stopped forcefully trying to give me meds.
What is FH? I’m on keto with 150 LDL 35 triglycerides and 90 HDLs. My doctor is ringing alarm bells. I have no other risk factors. Thank you for this great video.
Clearly Dr. Brett was having fun in this conversation. Even though I did not understand most of it, you both made it sound very interesting. I need to and want to understand better and will watch this again many times. Its in my research file! Thanks Diet Doctor.
I was told to go on statins after I had a stent installed. I was also given Clopidogrel and told to take an aspirin every day for the first year. As per the cardiologists orders I slowly ramped up my Statin use until I was taking a full tablet every day. At one point I had so many bruises all over my body I couldn't count them. I just took a bunch of photos and left it at that. Then one day I was getting off the couch and I blanked out in my left eye. I thought I had a Head Rush from getting off the sofa too quickly. It turns out it was probably a micro or mini stroke. When I brought it to the attention of my cardiologist he didn't respond at all. It was like I hadn't even said a word. When you get these kinds of apathetic responses after such a serious issue it really does make you wonder if you're getting the best help you can.
I’m really interested in how this affects blood coagulation! My pills for that cost over $500.00 a month! He opened my eyes with not having a study with and without a placebo! I’m 77, and I have no clue, what my long term is! I sure wish I would have been interested in studying, in school! This is like making up my homework! I definitely have incentive to study now, even though my wife doesn’t want to hear a word about it! Smart kids learned what was available, and remember that! They were never taught that what they were taught, could change! I’ve always been a skeptic of learned knowledge, in every field. It makes it harder to be a team player, but it keeps my eyes open to new ideas! That attitude is what the people in charge fear! If they are proven wrong, their diploma loses respect, and they are back in the pack, like the rest of us! Now we know why the Military doesn’t draft older people. They have to many questions! The Church Handled it differently, not particularly beneficially for humanity, but it covered their buttocks.
THANK YOU for this honesty. I have actually known several people who experienced major negative side effects from statins. ( Probably because I was aware of them) truly life- altering and quite COMMON.
Damaged LDL seems to be the problem. Dr Paul Mason argues that glycolated or damaged LDL can’t be absorbed back into the liver because the LDL receptors won’t recognise damaged LDL. Damaged LDL then enters into the wall of arteries by breaking down the protein bonds of the artery walls and builds up in the walls, narrowing the arteries and causing cardiac events. He strongly argues that it is damaged LDL that contributes to the problem. The root cause is inflammation - sugar and seed oils and other environmental factors.
That would make sense as seed is are in everything just check labels, and use cold pressed, ,and make y own it's easy eggs and vigin oils tomatoe ,,,passata and bit sugar and spices ect it dosnt cause rips in you're veins,, you're worth it,,,
Seed oils are in almost everything used for cheapness,,, if we dint buy they will change them and cut down on sugar,,, that's the worst, ,,,shame but wanna be healthy
Fantastic work you're doing on this channel! Are you familiar with the book written by an ex NASA guy called Lipitor, The Memory Thief? He lost his memory and even after figuring out what was happening, his doctor STILL wanted him on statins.
Shameless MD! Terrible 😮 Apparently statins are either fat or water soluble and this REALLY MATTERS for long term brain health. The oil soluble statins (like Lipitor) can enter the brain, causing harm to brain functions like memory, concentration, focus and decision making. Water soluble statins like Crestor do not enter the brain and cause harm like Lipitor does. My MD never explained ANY of this to me, he likely didn't even know these vital facts Now on lchf (more recently carnivore eating) I have some of these best lipid numbers for my age group but I seriously doubt it even matters because my inflammatory symptoms, driven by reducing carbs/fibre etc. are driving the real, meaningful reduction in health risk The mind boggles when you can investigate and treat moderate to serious health risks yourself yet be at much greater risk of dying when you engage a western, drug pushing MD
Do you think your CAD diagnosis was due to the amount of natural sugars in fruits you consumed? Have you changed your way or eating? If so, in what way? Has your health improved including labs? I think people can benefit from your information.
@@KM-os8lb I do not believe the CAD is due to diet. In my case it’s hereditary. I do believe I will eventually die from heart failure, but I am fighting as best I can with diet, exercise and avoiding doctors and treatments. My beliefs is simple; we are all going to die, so make the most of living whir you can.
Been trying to change Cardiologist training/ understanding for 20 years. They're more interested in buying their' next rental home...than helping people.
Two years later, still an excellent talk. Thank you so much for your wealth of information. I agree with almost everything you said regarding satins and LCHF in the context of colesterolul hypothesis.
@@kathygann1180 Indeed. Most of them does not understand anything, they do not even think the have been lied. The minority that know the truth does resume themselves to the "Pharmakia" benefits.
I will appreciate the exact reference to the article Dr Diamond mentioned in the talk that was published some years ago in BMJ open about a meta-analysis.
I stopped taking my statin bc of the muscle pains in my thighs were so severe that I couldn’t walk for more than a mile without needing rest. It wasn’t in my mind bc I didn’t know statins caused this, my doctor told me it was the cause yet wanted me to stay on the statin. No thanks.
James Luker, there is the TRANSCRIPT enabled already in this VID also. Press the "Three DOTs" (horizontally) on the right-hand side of Date of this VID. Then press TRANSCRIPT to be open on the top right-side corner of your screen, fyr.
Thank you! I am very low carb, almost totally carnivore. My vldl is sky high after going very low carb, I am told it is FH. I tried statin - high dose, and the adverse effects were severe. I was told there would be no adverse effects, only nocebos happen. I had both mental and physical severe side effects. I am now afraid to try any other statin. I have a horse in this race. Thank you for the information.
The real lesson is to address lifestyle, avoid any processed foods and exercise daily. Health doesn't come from pills, supplements or 💉💉. It only increases profits of those who only gain from ill health.
Too much credit given here to pharma companies. Costs of their studies would be subtractable from taxes; as is any pay-outs due to litigation and in support of polititians? They have been caught out repeatedly to be ignoring data that does not suit their agenda. It does not make sense to trust them. There should in fact be laws against them conducting any trial, and direct marketting to the public via mass media should not be allowed. Anyway, to be paying attention to pharma company studies, is a waste of time and energy. Their aim is to divert attention away from what truly matters. A fox with a megaphone in the hen house cannot be taken seriously.
Statins are a joke. They were an absolute waste of my time and money for over 20 years. SUGAR is the problem, folks! It is the health scourge of the modern era. My bad cholesterol was sky high, my good cholesterol was practically undetectable, and my triglycerides were routinely measured between 800 and 1400. I was about to go on insulin for type 2 diabetes too. Statins and a plethora of other medicines didn't change this. It only changed when I went against my doctor's advice, and started eating 3 eggs a day and all the fatty meats I wanted, while avoiding sugar and carbs. Only then did my numbers become perfectly normal for the first time in my life. 2.5 years later, I am 35 pounds lighter, off all diabetes meds, and am perfectly healthy for the first time, {minus all the damage I did following the advice of doctors and big pharma of course).
GOOD FOR YOU!!! Medications are bullshit. I’m 57 and don’t take any medications. I feed my body with natural foods and plenty of fat! I look better than the majority of people half my age!! Processed foods are literally killing our human race.
I just got my worst medical test result ever: 337 CAC score (which one med website claims gives my 61-yr old body the arteries of an 83-yr old). I have busted my butt for 40 yrs to be healthy (regular exercise and following recommended diets). In 1980, I drank the koolaide and became a vegan for 34 yrs. Two yrs ago, I had an epiphany and went keto/carnivore. Lost 30 lbs and never felt better/stronger. It brought me back to my football weight in 1977. My thinking/memory are much improved. Blood pressure has gone way down. My HDL/triglyceride ratio is excellent (0.68). But my LDL is 228 (2x what it was 2 yrs ago). My doc (who totally gets it regarding keto, dietary fat, cholesterol, etc.) has prescribed baby aspirin and Crestor statin after seeing my CAC score, and cautions against strenuous exercise. In addition, a keto friend advises I get off saturated fats & high cholesterol foods (meat, eggs). I am stumped. Do I resist taking Crestor statin? Do I get off carnivore and eggs and saturated fat to reduce cholesterol? Do I take magnesium, K2, D3, and IP-6 to fight arterial calcification? Do I assume I will always have a high CAC score and am fated to die soon from heart disease? I now believe - with great resentment - that vegetarian and low-fat crusaders sold me a bill of goods that I bought hook, line, and sinker. Forty years of working hard to be healthy has left me with 83-year old arteries because the extremely high carb/sugar load I was consuming for 34 years caused severe damage to my arteries. How ironic.
My total cholesterol was 543 so dr changed & upped my meds to 40mg Crestor I’m / was healthy 59 yo not taking anything else ( vitamins) been on keto 5 years & Love be it I’ll volunteer for a study I want off this crap I got it from my mom!
I have been given statins many times. I always refuse to take them. I have been keto 3 months so I will be interested in what the new numbers will say.
Relative Risk Reduction, Absolute Risk Reduction, I think we need to add in "Real Risk Reduction" meaning what this really means to the individual. Love your Vid/Podcast Dr Scher. You are objectively helping and informing a lot of people!
I have seen over the past 5 years 3 different doctors who all insisted that I take statins for my high LDL and total cholesterol levels despite my low triglycerides and high HDL levels. I refused the statins. One doctor dropped me as a patient due to my refusal to take them. I no longer trust most physicians. If I break a bone or need antibiotics or treatment for some acute condition I will absolutely seek medical help but for anything else? No thanks.
Dr diamond is such a giant against a sea of deceptive researchers. No money or fame is involved. I admire him. Doing the right thing as a scientist.
and still it is said in the beginning of the podcast we should not make a decision on what he says, and ask the sea of deceptive doctors. Both obviously are afraid of possible juristic consequences...
@@tomsawyer2112
Sadly that is the case. Litigation against cholesterol lowering drugs as a class, is needed. Getting someone involved like RFK Jr. who is experienced in dealing with the military industrial comolex, would be helpful?
At least Prof. Tim Noakes and MD Gary Fettke had success standing up against the SDA-controlled dietary guidelines.
@@tomsawyer2112 "Both obviously are afraid of possible juristic consequences..." Not to mention just plain old Big Tech corporate censorship.
@@tomsawyer2112 Exactly, what a contradiction!
Check out cardiologist Nadir Amir ,(hope thats right) he says in beginning.
"I have NO disclaimers here"
Now, you have my attention.
@@LaRoucheisright In my understanding, if you don't defer to the establishment at the beginning of whatever you write or say, you disappear from the screens.
How honest of the establishment!
Professor David Diamond should be nominated and won the Nobel Peace Prize! The world needs more scientists like him.
Update, my latest LDL 200, HDL97, Tryg67; this time my dr became very upset and told me I was going to drop dead one of these days from CVD/stroke. She pushed meds again. One more time I requested a CAC test, and finally, she wrote the order. But she did prescribe something without my approval because I pick up my allergies med and this cholesterol-lowering (not statin) that actually lowers tryg with little impact on LDL. I know she thought she was having my best interest in mind, but that is simply wrong; however, I did not want to get her in trouble. Fast forward, I did my CAC test, and my result is 0 in all coronary arteries and the heart parameters are unremarkable. My risk for vascular disease shows as minimal, actually, as better than 100% of people my age (I am 66). Case closed; no more pushing cholesterol-lowering medications. Usually, I call to discuss my lab reports, this time she calls me quick to say everything was good. I guess it was hard to accept a mistake and see the patient you were harassing in the face. I am glad I stood my ground, but there might be people with high levels of chronic disease that benefit from medications. The problem is that Drs follow written standards of care that pile everybody under one umbrella. We are not copies of each other; human physiology is specific to each.
Good job on staying educated and responsible for your own welfare. It is hard to stay healthy even when you have all of the facts. I am a 63 y.o. fighting the slow growth of an older Dad body. The culprit is an M&M candy habit. My main metrics are A1C (measures glucose bound to hemoglobin) and my faithful leather belt. My A1C was 4.7% two months ago and is currently 5.4%. I am good with anything under 5% so I am reducing number of meals from 2 to 1 per day (OMAD) but I am still going to have some M&Ms (this is a first world problem...). My belt will hopefully drop a notch after a month or so of this. Will be continuing rigorous exercise for the limited blood glucose reduction as well as for brain health. Just say no to drugs (do you remember that public health message?).
@@williamwightman8409 Never mind the drugs, start by saying no to M&Ms (refined sugar ! )
Your 200 LDL (convert 5.18 mmol/L ) mine is high 6.3 😊 I also have high cholesterol which I have had for years. Might ask for a CAC test or stress tests
What is CAC
Did you have a CIMT? A CAC is one of two necessary tests to ensure your numbers are nothing to worry about. 🙏🏻 pls check. My SO CAC was 0 but the CIMT showed a unstable 60% blockage in his neck.
This is by far the best discussion of lipoproteins, cardiovascular risk and lipid-lowering drugs I have ever heard! And I am a retired physician.
Thanks for the input,Dr.I try to educate myself, but I realize it's very important from whom you get your information. I see the cardiologist in a few days, we'll see how the conversation goes. She said cut out saturated fat, so I have been trying to eat less of that and stick to olive and avocado oils. Adding a few carbs back ,but I don't want to put on weight either! I did reverse my insulin resistance to insulin sensitivity now, so she did like that!!!🤣
@@jennifercaldwell7665 👍 Good on you for reversing your insulin resistance!! Unless that was addressed then None of your efforts at losing weight and keeping it off would have worked out well. I had No idea that you could bring your fasting blood sugar under control, even get your AIc at good levels, and Still have High Insulin levels!? It's NOT tested for in ordinary blood tests!🤔 It's usually only ordered when doctors can't get diabetic glucose levels down!?🤔 It sometimes takes a lot of fasting over a year, and of course eating Low Carb, to fix this issue, from what I've been able to learn.
You must not listen to Peter Attia…
@@jennifercaldwell7665 My cardiologist is a good doctor but he does not think out of the box, meaning he just knows how to write RX for issues. He ignores nutrition, except for what the drug company recommends, which s low fat, high carb for the most part. I've so loved getting educated by many doctors for the last 21 months.
@@e36s54 Yep, Attia’s great too!
52:55 for cognitive effects of interfering with cholesterol production. As Diamond says, your brain needs cholesterol to make memories. And as Georgia Ede says, "The brain makes its own cholesterol. Why would it make something really bad for you? It wouldn't. It's really smart. It's a brain."
September 2023: I had my yearly exam with my primary care provider (an internist MD who says he is an expert on lipidology and cholesterol) yesterday, and I told him my concerns about statins. I cited the Mayo Clinic and the National Institute of Health (USA). He said this made him angry; he compared my remarks to those of anti-vaxxers, and said that this was nonsense, coming from functional medicine practitioners, who are killing their patients by not prescribing statins. I expected him to disagree, but not to be so dismissive. Now I am looking for another primary care provider.
Doc immediately told me to take statins. Did research. Didn't want to take the risks and wasn't clear it would help. Stopped eating sugar. 1 year later: normal levels, best shape of my life. Now three years later: weight, numbers, health maintained easily.
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Did you use a natural sweetener ? Have given up most sugar. Using monk fruit, stevia Or organic coconut sugar
I also learned about, and dropped, the Nasty Toxic Seed-oils!,😝 ...and added in the heart-healthy ones!! What a World of Difference it's made!😉😎
@@gloriamaryhaywood2217 Please 😊😊😊 😊😊😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
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By the 16 minute mark- my husband clearly understood why I wanted him off his statins. Thank you
Do not make any decisions without talking to your doctor first! Was clearly stated in the beginning of this video.
@@ScorpionF1RE_USA Maybe he already knew what his doctor would say. I know what mine would say.
@@ScorpionF1RE_USA but these statin loving doctors don't care about your health....just the stats.
@@ScorpionF1RE_USA doctor will simply tell you not to believe anything from the internet... In which case watching this video was a waste of time. Just obey your doctor blindly like a dog to his master
Two years later, how is your husband doing?
I was put on Statins - before being on them, my LDL was 3.9 mmmo/l - My A1C was Normal, My Triglycerides were normal, My Tri/HDL ratio was less than 1 (mmo/l) - but they screamed I needed to be on statins STAT reciting risk factors taken from who knows when at the behest of who knows what!... I was not obese nor overweight 6'1 @ 185lbs. Since taking going on statins, my ALT (Liver Enzymes) doubled. My AIC went from normal to "At risk". My subsequent blood work had my ALT doubling again and my A1C creeping towards pre diabetes as well as other odd abnormalities in almost every subsequent blood work since going on the Statins. So I did some research - I could find a lot of sources with compelling arguments to not (for my scenario) be on statins. It seemed to me this Statin religion was a big pharma cash cow. I Did more research. Things got scary I'll tell ya. From what I was searching you would think articles and videos etc stating " you should be on Statins" would also be coming at me - but no. Why were there basically none of these?
I did the best of my own research and I couldn't find a logical reason to be on them - my blood work (other than a lower LDL count) were screaming "somethings not right here". So, this week - in front of a new, young, "progressive" Dr. I told him, I've done research, and I have found there is not a lot of evidence that these will be beneficial for me in fact to the contrary - I dont want to be on these anymore. He looked at me with that look that says "I have to tell you - that you understand the risk of coming off them - to not have my licence suspended - but I cant disagree with you". So Im off! And I have a feeling that my liver will thank me.
Omg patients need to stand up to Doctors!! I’m lean, and super healthy. My LDL is 176. I flat out told my Dr “don’t even think about offering me statins because I refuse!” She knows I don’t play into the big Pharma bullshit!!! I’m a perfectly healthy 57 year old woman, I look amazing and feel amazing!! If you stick with a diet of natural foods, God takes care of the rest! The human body is incredible!!
Dr. David Diamond is another unsung hero in this modern day and age. Thanks so much for your priceless research. God bless you!
Wow! This was a great interview and discussion. Every doctor that can prescribe a statin drug along with every cardiologist should be required to sit through this video.
I agree I 'm a walker ,& I don't want to have anything prevent me from walking. My L DL is high right now but I am doing a lot of walking. & it raised my HDL from 50 to 68 & that helps me keep off a statin.
@@jennieosborne3530 Great job improving your HDL number!! I'm almost positive that your tryclerides level is quite Low!,... right?🤔 If that's the case, then you are doing just FINE!!😉... As it's the 'Ratio' between those two lipids that truly Matters!!😊
Best quote: "You are not going to find health in a pill!" Dr. David Diamond
Agree
Agree
"I would like to learn more", David Diamond
Yesterday I met a younger cardiologist for a CAC scan. It turned out that this was just another screen before authorization for the scan. She looked at my lipids and said, just the the referring internist , your LDL of 217, Total Cholesterol of 310 means you need statins. I asked what about my HDL of 76 and my Triglycerides of 73 and that I’m 68 and feel great? She never got that far, she just clearly looks at LDL and TC. I asked her if she was sure I needed statins even if I hadn’t had the CT scan yet and that she had no clue what my heart status was. She pulled up some publication from the Cardiology main publication and read to me what her instructions are when someone like me sees her. She actually had to get permission for the scan referral since I wasn’t taking her advice. I am not impressed by Cardiologists with clear exceptions like Bret.
Let the doctors prescribe all they want, doesn't mean you have to take it!😉
@@carmijok1 I won't take statins because of the side effects. I walk everywhere I don't want leg cramps. Or liver problems I don't want memory problems. I'm alone & I don't trust the medical profession. Then the person will still eat the same then the statin won't do any good. It's me changing how I eat & how much I eat. Then it's the ingredients they put in the food. It's not what just the food itself. They put junk in the food that makes a difference. That is why more people are becoming diabetic & obese. I f more healthy ingredients were put in what we eat there would be less problems.
Right I have two full bottles of Statins in my medicine cabinet. Oh and I fired my doctor.
@@carmijok1 bravo
@@bibsann861 bravo
When I took the statin I tested my brain age and it had desastrours effect on my brain age. I refused it, and I am back to my young age! Started my low carb high protein diet, walking 3.9 miles a day and am back to normal!
~ Same thing happened to me. I felt 200 years old - depressed with no memory ... 😔
@@jamescalifornia2964 just proves we have to be our own health advocate
Bravo and I have similar results. My dr. Is so irritated with me discussing this subject with her.
@@4406bbldb right, not looking forward to my visit Wednesday 😕
Same for me. Statins caused a debilitating depression that impacted my quality of life, my career, everything. Forgetting to refill that drug, doing research on it (which I should have done first), and finding Dr. Paul Mason led me to keto, to all the great keto/carnivore docs on YT, and most important, to the best health of my life. Down 70lbs in 9 months, on zero meds, metabolic syndrome reversed, and my mental health, memory, engagement with life, and learning ability all restored!
I went low carb and intermittent fasting 2 meals. My labs at the time show my LDL 170, but my HDL 63 and Triglycerides were normal 92 with a good HDL/trigl ratio. I was however prediabetic. Fast forward, I did my labs again this month, and my A1C is fixed, no longer showing I am prediabetic. Once again she tries to prescribe me statins. These are my recent labs, LDL 173, HDL 90%, and triglycerides of 76, bp is always normal too. Once again she said, the total is higher now, I asked do you think HDL is bad a 90%, and trygly 76. "No it is actually very good, she responded. The risk ratio is actually 1.46 now. Case closed she insisted no more. All my liver and kidney, CBC, minerals are WNL. I am a happy camper, and I will continue my newfound way of managing my health with added exercise.
Your numbers are very close to
Mine and the cardiologist prescribed a statin. I questioned the terrible side effects of statins and he simply said I should still take them so he wouldn’t have to see me getting heart surgery in 5 years.
I’m not taking the statins and have found a new cardiologist. I’m low carb and my insulin is great!
Bret you do such a great job in listening and responding, all the while letting your guest inform us completely.
Several older friends that took a statin had significant muscle issues. One, almost to the point of needing a wheelchair!! After he did research, went off the statin and is fully back to his active lifestyle. These are not minor side effects!
I am 56 years old and NEVER had an LDL over 120. I DID however, have high triglycerides and lower HDL (40-44) and high insulin resistance. Low LDL and STILL had a heart attack 5 months ago. To me, it's not the LDL but stress and the metabolic issues that caused my infarction. ALL my docs would talk about is lowering my LDL post heart attack....WHICH WAS ALREADY NOT HIGH. Not ONE would talk about lowering my triglycerides, raising HDL, losing weight, or insulin resistance! I went on the recommended low fat, low sodium and took my statins. When I got my bloodwork after 3 months on THEIR diet, ALL my nunbers were worse..except my LDL. The Docs were like "great!"...only caring about LDL. Meanwhile, I gained weight, felt lightheaded all the time, couldnt sleep, fatigue, and overall unhealthy. Switched to Keto and feel FANTASTIC! LDL be damned! Im listening to my body.
Love this guy. He is helping me by reinforcing the decision I made to not take a statin and to treat my metabolic syndrome with a keto diet.
Same here, and I have a pacemaker and had bypass surgery 7 years ago. Put the statins in the garbage 6 years ago. HFLC about 5 years ago...NEVER FELT BETTER IN MY LIFE. Was on statins for a year.....FELT LIKE SHIT.
Exactly the same with me! Refused statin, started keto, now carnivore, working daily to build core fitness and improve functional mobility. Never felt better and I just turned 70. Lost all my belly fat and went from size 12 to size 6.
Me too!
@@mannyradzky493 I am reading this comment a year after. Where you placed on blood thinners? If so, did you stop it as well? Hope you're well.
@@FelixChatSpot I stopped them too. They had me on warfarin. The best blood thinner is water. Stay well hydrated. These are the things I follow: keep insulin low with a low carb diet that is 95% whole food, daily exercise, both resistance and aerobic, get as much sun exposure without sunscreen, pink Himalayan salt to taste, get quality sleep. I’m 65 now, have a pacemaker and needed bypass surgery 8 years. Hope this helps!!!!
One of the best interviews I've found on the subject. Dr Scher always knows the right questions to ask.
A very close relative developed dementia on statins. Changed to a different cholesterol lowering drugs and dementia 90% disappeared. This is common and needs to be much more widely known.
This is great. I had a triple bypass a month ago and of course they put me on statins. I was a fit 52 year old with no history of any illness. But my mother died of a heart attack so there's the key. My LDL was high and HDL was low with a ratio of 6. So that makes sense. I went out and got a naturopath doctor to work on fixing that and the first thing she stated was we'll work out a plan to get me off the Statin and Beta Blocker. Wish I would have known about all this 10 years ago...
I had a simiar experience 5 years ago, was put on statins by the cardiologist like it was required, and not my choice. Before leaving the hospital with 2 stents in my arteries, I had a conflict with a pissy nurse practitioner who delivered my list of prescriptions written by the cardiologist. I told her I intended to find an alternative for most of the pharmaceuticals, especially statins. She almost threatened me, saying if a patient doesn't follow the doctors orders, then their next visit might not get the same level of care.
Bitch.
Now the only pharmaceutical I take is baby aspirin daily. Instead of statins, I take Red Rice Yeast, which works just as well with NO other effects, side or otherwise.
@@billdickson1142 yep, since then I've found the Carnivore way of eating. 5 months now, over 40 lbs lost, and completely low-normal numbers for BP, Glucose (was diabetic, now not), and so much more is so much better now. After my heart incident, I was depressed and thinking life was going to end soon, but now I'm age 70, and feel like I'll be living a bit longer. Beef, Butter, Bacon, Eggs, and Salt is about all I eat now, with the occasional salmon or chicken meal (usually because it's all that's available at parties or restaurants), and love it. No cravings or any sort of problems. Life is good!
@@billdickson1142 LDL is in the high normal range, and from what I read it's really a bogus thing to focus on. I'm over 70 now, and my LDL SHOULD be going up. All other markets are flat normal, so no worries. I love confounding all the veggie fans. 😂
One of the best videos out there explaining LDL & statin 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I am really liking Dr. Diamond's approach to studies and reseach in general. I so much appreciate the insights given in this interview, and of course, major kudos to Dr. Scher for doing this interview!
the best video on LDL to clear the air
Fascinating and insightful interview. Dr Diamond is brilliant. This was the best interview I have ever heard on this topic.
Great work Professor David Diamon! I have always ran away from medicines and resorted to natural foods because I've always thought that drug companies will always be looking at their bottom line (money). Great work Diet Doctor, by bringing Dr. Diamon to speak here so that millions can hear this.
Jaime Perez Diamond
I was on on a vegan diet for about 6 months after taking statins for about a decade. 6 months ago, I had a bunch of labs done and had high CRP with perfect cholesterol levels. Triglycerides were high and I was still prediabetic. I felt terrible. After weaning myself off of statins and going carnivore/ketovore with no pricessed foods, sugars, or alcohol for 5 months, I lost almost 30 lbs and 3" in the waist, feel awesome. HDL, Triglycerifes, and Trig/HDL ratio are within normal limits now. I am expecting my PCP to try to get me to go back on my statins when I go for my annual visit next week. Not a chance. I am getting my forgetful mother to cut back on her statins too.
Love this video. Anybody that studies cholesterol etc. numbers should look at my numbers, lol. I have every blood test going back 20 plus years. Cholesterol always over 300, LDL always above 200, HDL in the 50s. I'm now a 74 woman and have never taken a drug. Always refused. Been vegan for 30 years but now switching to keto because my A1C is creeping up and fasting blood sugar runs between the 90s to 115. Also noticed more tiredness so will try low carbs and maybe more meat. Granted it's not easy after just eating fruits and veggies but I don't want diabetes. Doctors of course don't want to see me since I refused their drugs.
I just had a doctor throw me off bc high cholesterol 79 yrs read woman live longer sans statins. Carnivore run two miles step race 8-12 weights and machines light weights. He was a Vegan or maybe the other plant diet . Anyway seemed very depressed was thinking I might help him ( Carnivores myself) but he dumped me. Hahaha
@@lynnwilliams5432 lol, you didn't loose much. Today's doctors are impossible to work with. Haven't seen one in 6 years. It's all drugs, drugs with them. Still struggling a little with carnivore but seeing results.
@@TH-camr-ep5xx I don't mind you're asking. I tried keto but it was not sustainable for me. I needed more carbs. My body became to acidic from so much meat. I'm back to fully vegan but eating very very simple meals and only 2 times per day. I noticed huge improvement when I did away all oils and only use real butter and a little olive oil for salad dressing if I want some. No other oils. I also wanted myself if the natural thyroid meds I was taking for 30 years. They were not drugs but I still was told that I had to take them for the rest of my life. Well, that was not acceptable to me. Nothing happened when I slowly removed them. Still not taking anything and never will. I won't listen to anyone anymore and do what makes me feel the best. Also, eating out is not an option anymore because I feel bad afterwards. I am sure they're using something in the cooking process.
Aren't you glad you asked, hahaha
@@TH-camr-ep5xx Exactly. They seem to want us sick.
Thank you for the update. The comment section is so interesting!
Love that the LCHF experts always seem to bring the science. Great discussion!
Me. I have high LDL and my sweet doctor feels so pulled in 2 directions. She ordered a scan to look for plaque in my arteries but insurance won’t pay. I was obese, high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, and a host of other ailments. Now I am near my goal weight, I work out regularly, and run/walk. All my numbers are great, feel better than my 40’s and 50’s (age 61) except for the disturbing LDL. What to do. What to do. I have decided BEFORE this interview, to continue my process. I am off all meds and plan to continue that.
Your Dr. probably want to do a CAC screening. Normally cost between 100 to 250 dollars. Just pay for it yourself. Money well spent.
Keto will raise LDL, but thats not necessarily bad
congrats to you . I like your thinking
I got a CAC for $50.00
@@pjbgcb54 With Insurance cover？
I’ve listened to Dr. Diamond before. He shows the science.
My great grandfather lived to be 98 and he died before they invented statins.
What an informative, helpful, and enjoyable discussion on LDL and statins. Thank you Dr. Diamond.
When I was put on statins I had not so much aches as severe weakness in my leg muscles to the extent that I struggled with stairs and getting in and out of the car. And my doctor never even considered that I was pre-diabetic. LCHF lifestyle has reduced my risk of diabetes completely. Without statins I walk daily and hike on weekends.
Statins can cause muscle weakness. When they were first created the tablets also contain CoQ10.
I just got off phone with doc office..been on keto/IF Day 26.my LDL went up from 85 to 154..my AC1 went up 7.2 to7.9..but I've lost weight and all that severe inflammation is gone..I had to take a 6 week pain Management course ..pain pills..cortisone shots diabetic shoe inserts etc. I refused the meds he wants to give me..I can and been exercising because I'm no longer in pain..I had a stroke 6 yrs ago..tired of being on pills tired of being in pain.tore ACL years ago let it hold me back from moving.what can I take to fight this bad cholesterol without the pain from statins?
@@DevildogDragoons Fish oil/omega 3’s
@@jobrown8146 yes that's another thing you need to top up on i10
Q10 if on statins
Great discussion - I really appreciate the mentioning of the criticisms from mainstream scientists - it helps to understand the whole picture.
So amazing!! Thank you! Excellent info and great questions Dr. Scher! My husband has FH and has been confused about what meds to ask his doc about letting go of. Especially since he has been on a strict low carb lifestyle after his 3rd heart attack two months ago. He has been on a Statin and a plethora of meds for 8 yrs and has had no change in his arteries or heart function. In fact he has a 100% blockage in the same artery with blockages in 2 other arteries as well. We are excited that we are armed with better understanding! Thank you again!
Such clarity given to an often complex subject,.. well done
I’m on a low carb diet and my good cholesterol is good but doc said the bad is high. He’s asked me to take a medication called Zetia saying it is not a statin. I’ve not taken it not knowing if I really need it. He is not interested at all in knowing about Keto or anything in doing. I’ve lost 50 pounds and am off two blood pressure meds and no more horrid inflammation. I walk for an hour in my hilly neighborhood.
geta different doctor
You don't even have to exercise. Most of the people who live into their 90's never did any strenuous exercise since they got out of high school, nor, did they watch their diet for fat intake. The cholesterol 'kings' of research cannot explain why these people live so long, if dietary fats and having high cholesterol is so deadly. IN fact, once you're over 60, you have a better chance of living longer if we have HIGH cholesterol levels. Turns out fats are necessary for many metobolic processes which keep us healthy. What isn't necessary? SUGAR. Turns out, we can live just fine, eating ZERO carbohydrates. Our body can make it's own glucose, as needed.
There is no such thing as "bad" cholesterol. LDL is the rubbish leaving the body
I can tell you that I was put on Zocor, with no warning of any side effects. I fell into a very deep depression and my muscles ached 24/7. I had no clue that the Zocor was causing this and I started contemplating suicide. I did not want to go through the rest of my life in that kind of pain. When I stopped taking Zocor, the pain gradually disappeared. I still, to this day, 16 years later, refuse to take a statin.
I won't even go there going on a statin. I know what will happen to me. I will not be able to walk again & I walk to one hour & two hours a day. That's what raised my good cholesterol my HDL. Walking is the best thing for heart disease. Then I have to walk & take the bus everywhere. Because I can't afford to own a vehicle. & where I live I don't live near a grocery store. I will not take drugs that rot my liver out. Or cramp up my legs to where I can't walk again. Then I don't want to have memory problems. No thankyou then I quit smoking years back. I quit totally on my own then I'm working with my diet. I fill like I'm being pressured & not being allowed to go at my own pace. As far as what my numbers coming down. It takes time to get your body back to how it's suppost to. Until my LDL went up to over 200 I didn't get bothered about my cholesterol. I never had it high until I became overweight. At one time I use to be underweight. And I was healthier than I was being overweight. Because I functioned better when I was thin I had more energy & felt better. Then I was happier being thinner then I was able to eat what I wanted & not gain weight. I wish I had that back.
Just glad you came out of it fairly unscathed
Wow, some people are just not sensitive to environmental changes. You are the perfect prey for the Pharma industry machine. Glad you got out it just in time.
THANK YOU for the tangent on FH!! It’s so hard to find info on this. So appreciated!! ❤😊
I hope many Dr can read and listen to what Dr. Diamond says. Thank You Doc!! My Dr. want to put me on a statin however my CAC is 0 I just had this result last month. I am happy.
Every time I watch one these podcasts, I want to share it with my doctor. This one for sure! 👍👍
I do. Send it to them in “MyChart”
Extremely priceless information. I commend both of you, especially Dr. Diamond.
Dr. David Diamond's nickname should be The Debunk King! He has done one of the best jobs, of all the academics that I have watched in the health space, in his various TH-cam presentations, to refute the bad epidemiology that has been used to justify the use of statins or the purported link between meat and saturated fat with chronic maladies. When anybody expresses to me their faith in the so called "evidence based" ideas around these topics, I always refer them to Dr. Diamond's lectures, and if they are intellectually honest, they immediately become a skeptic.
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When I point out the inconsistencies of the lipid hypothesis findings which the statin manufacturers use to 'prove' that we need to take their products, no one can give me an answer. It always seems to come back to, 'Everybody knows', as if it's always been a given that cholesterol and other dietary fats are the cause of heart and vascular disease. It's almost like a religion, the total loss of any critical thinking to question someone's belief which is based on NOTHING.
Awesome discussion with a true scientific and objective review of the data. Love questions and point counterpoint style. Good job.
Anadotal Evidence: My muscle aches on statin were so bad that I couldn’t walk around the block without stopping to rest. My doctor thought I should just deal with it. I don’t take statins anymore and I have a new doctor who also wants to push me on statin but he’s dealing with the fact I won’t take them.
Dr Diamonds youtube lecture was a pivotal viewing in my nutrition research. Stellar.
This was an outstanding interview. Thank you.
Thank you very much for this information. In the past 5 months, I have gone from obese and diabetic with high BP to having lowered all my Bio-markers to a healthy level. I am now facing an aggressive push from my doctor to address my moderately high LDL with a Statin. Very frustrating but I am going to (as was pointed out in this video) continue to take my own health decisions in hand based on my successes and continue on my present nutritional Ketogenic path.
Never let them bully you.
Super excited to find this video. I have been a low-carb person naturally since I was a kid, and my cholesterol is aways boarderline high. After some weight loss (underweight bmi 16.5 right now) due to the GRED problem, I cut off more carbs since sugar causes reflux issues for me. The most recent lipid test is TG 79, HDL 114, LDL 183, Total 313. My doctor is seriously worried, and wants to prescribe statins. I do not want to take it since I think the current diet keep my GRED under control, and I do not have any other abnormal numbers except for this cholesterol thing. I guess now I can find peace since now I have a reason for my “weird” lipid numbers.
Request a CAC (coronary artery calcification test). You probably have to pay out of pocket. It is not really that expensive, and it will give you peace of mind knowing your risk and making the best decisions. I did that and MD stopped forcefully trying to give me meds.
Huge respect for Mr Diamond.
Amazing podcast, I really hope Dr. Diamond is invited back in 2021.
"increased calcium score is bad unless it was caused by a statin, then it's good" lol.
This is so interesting. I have to stretch to grasp some concepts, but I really appreciate videos like this.
What is FH?
I’m on keto with 150 LDL 35 triglycerides and 90 HDLs. My doctor is ringing alarm bells. I have no other risk factors. Thank you for this great video.
familial hyper-cholesterolemia (a condition where people produce too much LDL)
Clearly Dr. Brett was having fun in this conversation. Even though I did not understand most of it, you both made it sound very interesting. I need to and want to understand better and will watch this again many times. Its in my research file! Thanks Diet Doctor.
I was told to go on statins after I had a stent installed. I was also given Clopidogrel and told to take an aspirin every day for the first year. As per the cardiologists orders I slowly ramped up my Statin use until I was taking a full tablet every day. At one point I had so many bruises all over my body I couldn't count them. I just took a bunch of photos and left it at that. Then one day I was getting off the couch and I blanked out in my left eye. I thought I had a Head Rush from getting off the sofa too quickly. It turns out it was probably a micro or mini stroke. When I brought it to the attention of my cardiologist he didn't respond at all. It was like I hadn't even said a word. When you get these kinds of apathetic responses after such a serious issue it really does make you wonder if you're getting the best help you can.
It’s all garbage!! Eat natural foods and let God take it from there!!
I’m really interested in how this affects blood coagulation! My pills for that cost over $500.00 a month! He opened my eyes with not having a study with and without a placebo! I’m 77, and I have no clue, what my long term is! I sure wish I would have been interested in studying, in school! This is like making up my homework! I definitely have incentive to study now, even though my wife doesn’t want to hear a word about it! Smart kids learned what was available, and remember that! They were never taught that what they were taught, could change! I’ve always been a skeptic of learned knowledge, in every field. It makes it harder to be a team player, but it keeps my eyes open to new ideas! That attitude is what the people in charge fear! If they are proven wrong, their diploma loses respect, and they are back in the pack, like the rest of us! Now we know why the Military doesn’t draft older people. They have to many questions! The Church Handled it differently, not particularly beneficially for humanity, but it covered their buttocks.
Wow, that was amazing. What a breath of fresh air you both are. Love Dr. Diamond's work. Thank you both so much.
THANK YOU for this honesty. I have actually known several people who experienced major negative side effects from statins. ( Probably because I was aware of them) truly life- altering and quite COMMON.
Two legends. This is one of the best podcast espisode I've seen
You guys are one of the best , It changed my life, thanks to you and feel better at 50 than at 30 !
Damaged LDL seems to be the problem. Dr Paul Mason argues that glycolated or damaged LDL can’t be absorbed back into the liver because the LDL receptors won’t recognise damaged LDL. Damaged LDL then enters into the wall of arteries by breaking down the protein bonds of the artery walls and builds up in the walls, narrowing the arteries and causing cardiac events. He strongly argues that it is damaged LDL that contributes to the problem. The root cause is inflammation - sugar and seed oils and other environmental factors.
That would make sense as seed is are in everything just check labels, and use cold pressed, ,and make y own it's easy eggs and vigin oils tomatoe ,,,passata and bit sugar and spices ect it dosnt cause rips in you're veins,, you're worth it,,,
Seed oils are in almost everything used for cheapness,,, if we dint buy they will change them and cut down on sugar,,, that's the worst, ,,,shame but wanna be healthy
Great talk! Thanks so much. I'm hoping my cardiologist will listen to this.
Fantastic work you're doing on this channel! Are you familiar with the book written by an ex NASA guy called Lipitor, The Memory Thief? He lost his memory and even after figuring out what was happening, his doctor STILL wanted him on statins.
Shameless MD! Terrible 😮
Apparently statins are either fat or water soluble and this REALLY MATTERS for long term brain health. The oil soluble statins (like Lipitor) can enter the brain, causing harm to brain functions like memory, concentration, focus and decision making. Water soluble statins like Crestor do not enter the brain and cause harm like Lipitor does. My MD never explained ANY of this to me, he likely didn't even know these vital facts
Now on lchf (more recently carnivore eating) I have some of these best lipid numbers for my age group but I seriously doubt it even matters because my inflammatory symptoms, driven by reducing carbs/fibre etc. are driving the real, meaningful reduction in health risk
The mind boggles when you can investigate and treat moderate to serious health risks yourself yet be at much greater risk of dying when you engage a western, drug pushing MD
Great discussion! Always love Dr. Diamond's content!
I am 72 and diagnosed with CAD. I’ve been a raw foodist for 22 years. I am listening closely.
Do you think your CAD diagnosis was due to the amount of natural sugars in fruits you consumed? Have you changed your way or eating? If so, in what way? Has your health improved including labs? I think people can benefit from your information.
@@KM-os8lb I do not believe the CAD is due to diet. In my case it’s hereditary. I do believe I will eventually die from heart failure, but I am fighting as best I can with diet, exercise and avoiding doctors and treatments. My beliefs is simple; we are all going to die, so make the most of living whir you can.
@Majestic Artimus So, you know what Vegans are thinking. You can read the minds of Vegans, really?
Been trying to change Cardiologist training/ understanding for 20 years. They're more interested in buying their' next rental home...than helping people.
Two years later, still an excellent talk. Thank you so much for your wealth of information. I agree with almost everything you said regarding satins and LCHF in the context of colesterolul hypothesis.
3 years later and still doctors want everyone on statins!
@@kathygann1180 Indeed. Most of them does not understand anything, they do not even think the have been lied. The minority that know the truth does resume themselves to the "Pharmakia" benefits.
I will appreciate the exact reference to the article Dr Diamond mentioned in the talk that was published some years ago in BMJ open about a meta-analysis.
Excellent DAVID DIAMOND superb scientist. Pls keep it up and keep sharing your findings
I stopped taking my statin bc of the muscle pains in my thighs were so severe that I couldn’t walk for more than a mile without needing rest. It wasn’t in my mind bc I didn’t know statins caused this, my doctor told me it was the cause yet wanted me to stay on the statin. No thanks.
Great video! Thank you for speaking up about this subject!
Lot of great information to unpack. Wish a transcript was available. Dr. Diamond needs to write a book.
A transcript is on the Diet Doctor podcast website.
www.dietdoctor.com/diet-doctor-podcast-27-david-diamond-phd
James Luker, there is the TRANSCRIPT enabled already in this VID also.
Press the "Three DOTs" (horizontally) on the right-hand side of Date of this VID.
Then press TRANSCRIPT to be open on the top right-side corner of your screen, fyr.
Came to listen to David Diamond and impressed as usual. Excellent physician interviewer. I appreciated his devils advocate questions.
Thank you! I am very low carb, almost totally carnivore. My vldl is sky high after going very low carb, I am told it is FH. I tried statin - high dose, and the adverse effects were severe. I was told there would be no adverse effects, only nocebos happen. I had both mental and physical severe side effects. I am now afraid to try any other statin. I have a horse in this race. Thank you for the information.
The real lesson is to address lifestyle, avoid any processed foods and exercise daily.
Health doesn't come from pills, supplements or 💉💉. It only increases profits of those who only gain from ill health.
Wow, wow, wow! So much good information to process. Thank you
Too much credit given here to pharma companies. Costs of their studies would be subtractable from taxes; as is any pay-outs due to litigation and in support of polititians?
They have been caught out repeatedly to be ignoring data that does not suit their agenda. It does not make sense to trust them. There should in fact be laws against them conducting any trial, and direct marketting to the public via mass media should not be allowed.
Anyway, to be paying attention to pharma company studies, is a waste of time and energy. Their aim is to divert attention away from what truly matters. A fox with a megaphone in the hen house cannot be taken seriously.
Outstanding discussion!
David Diamond's attitude reminds me of RIchard Feynman's clear critical and measured approach to reason and science.
Excellent research and discussion. Thank you Drs Diamond and Scher!
Statins are a joke. They were an absolute waste of my time and money for over 20 years. SUGAR is the problem, folks! It is the health scourge of the modern era. My bad cholesterol was sky high, my good cholesterol was practically undetectable, and my triglycerides were routinely measured between 800 and 1400. I was about to go on insulin for type 2 diabetes too. Statins and a plethora of other medicines didn't change this. It only changed when I went against my doctor's advice, and started eating 3 eggs a day and all the fatty meats I wanted, while avoiding sugar and carbs. Only then did my numbers become perfectly normal for the first time in my life. 2.5 years later, I am 35 pounds lighter, off all diabetes meds, and am perfectly healthy for the first time, {minus all the damage I did following the advice of doctors and big pharma of course).
GOOD FOR YOU!!! Medications are bullshit. I’m 57 and don’t take any medications. I feed my body with natural foods and plenty of fat!
I look better than the majority of people half my age!!
Processed foods are literally killing our human race.
Absolutely great information!
Thanks...very evidence based
Exactly the information i needed with my situation, many thanks.
Trouble with talking with your dr. is that if your dr is wedded to the "accepted medical practices" he or she will tell you stay on statins.
It’s all garbage!!
I hate that we HAVE to have these disclaimers for fear of attack from the medical community. It's disgusting
I just got my worst medical test result ever: 337 CAC score (which one med website claims gives my 61-yr old body the arteries of an 83-yr old).
I have busted my butt for 40 yrs to be healthy (regular exercise and following recommended diets). In 1980, I drank the koolaide and became a vegan for 34 yrs. Two yrs ago, I had an epiphany and went keto/carnivore. Lost 30 lbs and never felt better/stronger. It brought me back to my football weight in 1977. My thinking/memory are much improved. Blood pressure has gone way down. My HDL/triglyceride ratio is excellent (0.68). But my LDL is 228 (2x what it was 2 yrs ago).
My doc (who totally gets it regarding keto, dietary fat, cholesterol, etc.) has prescribed baby aspirin and Crestor statin after seeing my CAC score, and cautions against strenuous exercise. In addition, a keto friend advises I get off saturated fats & high cholesterol foods (meat, eggs).
I am stumped.
Do I resist taking Crestor statin? Do I get off carnivore and eggs and saturated fat to reduce cholesterol? Do I take magnesium, K2, D3, and IP-6 to fight arterial calcification? Do I assume I will always have a high CAC score and am fated to die soon from heart disease?
I now believe - with great resentment - that vegetarian and low-fat crusaders sold me a bill of goods that I bought hook, line, and sinker. Forty years of working hard to be healthy has left me with 83-year old arteries because the extremely high carb/sugar load I was consuming for 34 years caused severe damage to my arteries.
How ironic.
Seed oils n sugar out water n veg in meat that are ,Protein based they say intermittent fasting helps ngeens for nutrients it's worth a try ,
Asprin n statin bad for kidneys& liver thought I'd heard
@@lynlawley8903 Thank you.
Wow!!
What an incredible video.
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Inflammation caused mostly by seed oils and carbs which are found in massive quantities now in processed food.
My total cholesterol was 543 so dr changed & upped my meds to 40mg Crestor I’m / was healthy 59 yo not taking anything else ( vitamins) been on keto 5 years & Love be it I’ll volunteer for a study I want off this crap I got it from my mom!
Superb presentation, makes so much sense 👏
I have been given statins many times. I always refuse to take them. I have been keto 3 months so I will be interested in what the new numbers will say.
True, my triglycerides were 49 but the HDL and LDL went up. My ratio of cholesterol to HDL was 3.5 and the vldl was 10.
High hdl no problem, your triglycerides sound good. Your figures are sound.👍
Relative Risk Reduction, Absolute Risk Reduction, I think we need to add in "Real Risk Reduction" meaning what this really means to the individual. Love your Vid/Podcast Dr Scher. You are objectively helping and informing a lot of people!
this was a fantastic talk
Thank you. I really appreciate these types of videos.