There was a time when Proverbs 16:9 represented to me the presence of God in my life, I used to cling to it and recite it just to get through the day. Thanks for reminding me that God is Sovereign.
@@apilkeyyou hate God determining things we get it. ”For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.“ Romans 11:36 ESV
@@jermoosekek1101 if God determines everything, then God determined me to hate that, so I’m not quite sure what your point is. You seem to have a problem with God, and what He’s determined me to believe
A truly amazing message here. I was so fortunate last night, i got to preach/teach the teen challenge men. Blew their minds with God's truth on this subject. 🙏
Can’t help but ask this @9:26 he starts talking about choosing the right way or trying to decide Gods will. From a Calvinistic perspective whichever way you choose would be God’s will. Even if I chose sin it would be Gods pre determined will. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Thank you, I've been fighting people on the false doctrine of Free Will, they don't understand also we have been given a Choice, His Will or our own, Life or Death but if you choose 1 or the other you still have a Master over you this it's not Free. Also true Free Will constitutes no Judgement for executing said Will, so in Truth to God alone be Free Will.
Job 40:6-14 ESV [6] Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: [7] "Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. [8] Will you even put me in the wrong? Will you condemn me that you may be in the right? [9] Have you an arm like God, and can you thunder with a voice like his? [10] "Adorn yourself with majesty and dignity; clothe yourself with glory and splendor. [11] Pour out the overflowings of your anger, and look on everyone who is proud and abase him. [12] Look on everyone who is proud and bring him low and tread down the wicked where they stand. [13] Hide them all in the dust together; bind their faces in the world below. [14] Then will I also acknowledge to you that your own right hand can save you.
That’s silly! Adam and Eve were not robots! They had freedom of choice. They chose wrong by using their free will given to them by God for selfish reasons. Even thought we are all in a fallen state, we are not forced to serve God. Hence, “ Free Will .”
What is Provisionism? The terms Provisionism and Provisionist are new by the standards of Christian theology. These labels have only been formally defined and used in the past few years. In broad terms, a Provisionist-someone who holds to Provisionism-holds a generally Arminian view of free will and salvation, with notable differences such as positive belief in eternal security. The main gist of Provisionism is the idea that the gospel is the Word of God, which is sufficient in itself, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to enable a response in all who hear God’s appeal to be reconciled to Him (John 6:63; Hebrews 4:12). The clearest differences between Provisionist doctrine and classical Reformed theology are seen in the concepts of total depravity and limited atonement. The doctrine of total depravity suggests all people are inherently sinful, such that they could not even want to be saved without a direct, predestined act of God. Provisionism counters that all people are sinful and responsible for their sin, but they are also responsible for answering God’s universal call for men to be saved (Titus 2:11). Limited atonement is a doctrine teaching that Christ only died for those God had designated as the elect. A Provisionist would reject this, saying that the Bible teaches that Christ died for all people (1 John 2:2), which is why God promises to save any who come to Him in faith (Romans 10:11-13; Revelation 22:17). The Provisionist holds that Christ genuinely desires all of humanity to be saved (Luke 5:32; 19:10; 1 Timothy 2:4-6; ). In effect, this means a Provisionist would also reject other Reformed doctrines such as irresistible grace. The main use of the term Provisionism comes from the writings of theologian Leighton Flowers. The term is also meant to describe the general approach to salvation held by most Southern and Independent Baptists. So far as Reformed doctrine is concerned, this means narrow disagreement on the subjects of total depravity and limited atonement, as well as the exact meaning of words like predestined and elect. Similar to the TULIP in Calvinism, Provisionism can be summarized with the acrostic PROVIDE Responsible: Able-to-respond to God’s appeals for reconciliation. Open door: For anyone to enter by faith. Whosoever will may come to His open arms. Vicarious atonement: Provides a way for anyone to be saved by Christ’s blood. Illuminating grace: Provides clearly revealed truth so that all can know and respond in faith. Destroyed: For unbelief and resisting the Holy Spirit. Eternal security: For all true believers.
38:42 just because God can tell you why everything happened does not mean he made it happen, I could tell you about why some things happen that doesn’t mean I made them happen.
Not so sure that’s what those verses mean though, is everything y permission? Yes but that in itself means God does not make every decision he did not plan for everything that happens to happen, otherwise it’s not permission it’s his decision. Someone murders someone it was Gods will and decision, but we know that’s not true it was by permission not decision. Other than decision to not act.
@BrockJamesStory don’t listen to this false teacher. Jeff Durbin is a Calvinist and preaches a false gospel. Sovereignty does not, has not and never will mean determinism.
@@BrockJamesStorywell the Gospel means, “Good News”. And we’re told what the Gospel is in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 which is Christ’s death burial and resurrection. But in Calvinism it’s not Good News if you’ve been predestined to hell and Christ didn’t die for you. It’s only good news if you’re one of the Calvinist elect and God has chosen to save you. So then actually the only real good news is whether or not you’ve been chosen or not. If you haven’t been chosen it’s not Good News, and if you have been chosen then that’s the actual Good News and Christ’s death, burial and resurrection are secondary, trivial formalities that don’t really matter to you because you’ve already been chosen.
PROVERBS 16:9 9 A man's heart DEVISETH HIS WAY: but the LORD directeth his steps. Q: Yes or no according to the above verse does man have the ability to devise his own way? This verse DISPROVES your view and proves mankind CAN devise his own way. Answer this other question: If God has predestined everything then please explain to me what exactly is God directing in this passage? Is the Lord directing HIS own steps that He Himself has decreed? So God is directing HIMSELF? 🤦♂️ See how non-sensical and foolish that sounds?
@@aletheia8054Does the above verse say that God is sovereign? No it don’t. Does the above verse say that God determines everything and that sovereignty equals “determined before the foundation of the world”? No it don’t.
@@aletheia8054 even if it means God is Sovereign, sovereignty does not, has not and never will have anything to do with determining something to come to pass. So this passage still doesn’t mean what Calvinists need it to mean.
Funny how he doesn’t use a single passage of scripture with the word sovereignty or sovereign in it. He’s invented his own fleshly definition of sovereignty.
Suggestion: Perhaps steel man his argument and offer a refutation instead of posting what comes across as a whiny canard subtly cloaked in the bearing of false witness. You know very well he didn’t “invent” anything. You just don’t like the reformed definition he uses. Psalm 119:133 Keep steady my steps according to your promise, and let no iniquity get dominion over me.
Also, if you are a sincere apologist, please defend the trinity from scripture according to the standard by which you’ve judged pastor Durbin. Psalm 119:133 Keep steady my steps according to your promise, and let no iniquity get dominion over me.
@@queenfoursuitedI gave an answer and that is Jeff Durbin and reformed theology have a twisted definition of sovereignty found nowhere in scripture. You obviously couldn’t care less about scripture if you’re yawning about that.
@@alexanderkane3960 You Charged Durbin as a false prophet. Back it up. Apparently you know how to make charges, but not able to articulate your charge.
@@uriah4901 I’ve watched many of his TH-cam vids and he fits the description that chat gpt gives. I don’t know what to tel you. Would you believe it if I used grandiosities? I know some won’t listen unless you’ve attended an Ivy League school. Anything to try and shut up the truth of things. Jesus said it would be like this.
For someone to be considered a false prophet according to scripture or “Bible’s standard” he would have to either give a false prophecy that didn’t come into existence or happen, or he would lead you to another god or false idols and yet everything he teaches aligns perfectly with the word of God. So now you have two options, either prove that he’s a false prophet or recant your statement.
God bless you Pastor Jeff for a good sermon
There was a time when Proverbs 16:9 represented to me the presence of God in my life, I used to cling to it and recite it just to get through the day. Thanks for reminding me that God is Sovereign.
@jlsheehan God being sovereign has absolutely nothing to do with Him determining everything.
@@apilkeyyou hate God determining things we get it. ”For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.“
Romans 11:36 ESV
@@jermoosekek1101 if God determines everything, then God determined me to hate that, so I’m not quite sure what your point is.
You seem to have a problem with God, and what He’s determined me to believe
I was just speaking it to myself this morning that the sovereignty of God does not depend upon your participation or lack there of
This is why prayer works.
please keep me in prayer as i may be homeless at age 63 in april27/24. ive come to know that i must trust him in his decrees
Rejoyced this morning thinking on our GREAT, Sovereign God as our family listened to this sermon. Thank you pastor Jeff!
Thank you so much for this--your sermon has helped me understand some things that troubled me. God bless you.
So thankful for this wisdom
Amen praise God ❤
I'm so glad to hear someone teach this verse. It's one of my favorites, but I hope he talks about its sister verse 16:4 as well.
Nevermind Jeff did it.
Proverbs 16:1&4&9&33
Proverbs 19:21
Proverbs 20:24
Proverbs 21:1
Isaiah 46:9-11
Isaiah 40:12-14&23&25&27-28
Isaiah 41:21
Psalm 115:3
Job 42:2
Psalm 103:19
Psalm 135:6
Daniel 4:35
Lamentations 3:37
Isaiah 43:13
Isaiah 14:24&27
Deuteronomy 32:39
Isaiah 45:7
Job 1:
Exodus 4:11
John 9
Daniel 2:21
Daniel 4:17
What’s with all the prooftexting?
What point are you trying to make?
A truly amazing message here.
I was so fortunate last night, i got to preach/teach the teen challenge men.
Blew their minds with God's truth on this subject. 🙏
Great message
Honey for my soul.
So thankful to be able to listen to these sermons from NJ
This is really good
Beautiful. Someone addicted to something my feel they are free to choose their poison, but indeed, they are slaves to it.
I needed to hear this.
Amen
I love the teachings and listen every week. Would you please fix the issue with the audio and video not being in synch? Thank you. 😊
It was cool to meet Pastor Jeff a few weeks at G3 in Atlanta!
May all idols be crushed into dust and their worshippers be made to eat that dust. Moreover, may the worshippers repent in the ashes of that dust.
I'm not a Calvin's, but Jeff has a reL Chuck Missler vibe other then that. Thanks for your insight.
Is there anything y'all can do to reduce the treble? I love Apologia but the audio always sounds peircing.
48:59 okay but you know what people mean when they say free will however I like the point that it’s not a free will, but a will to sin
Can’t help but ask this @9:26 he starts talking about choosing the right way or trying to decide Gods will. From a Calvinistic perspective whichever way you choose would be God’s will. Even if I chose sin it would be Gods pre determined will. Correct me if I’m wrong.
It would be His descriptive will, not prescriptive.
Divine council is gods gets scorched here and I was here for it
Sermon starts at 1:48 😊
Proverbs is a good book
Thank you, I've been fighting people on the false doctrine of Free Will, they don't understand also we have been given a Choice, His Will or our own, Life or Death but if you choose 1 or the other you still have a Master over you this it's not Free. Also true Free Will constitutes no Judgement for executing said Will, so in Truth to God alone be Free Will.
Job 40:6-14 ESV
[6] Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: [7] "Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. [8] Will you even put me in the wrong? Will you condemn me that you may be in the right? [9] Have you an arm like God, and can you thunder with a voice like his? [10] "Adorn yourself with majesty and dignity; clothe yourself with glory and splendor. [11] Pour out the overflowings of your anger, and look on everyone who is proud and abase him. [12] Look on everyone who is proud and bring him low and tread down the wicked where they stand. [13] Hide them all in the dust together; bind their faces in the world below. [14] Then will I also acknowledge to you that your own right hand can save you.
@@JesusistheonetrueGod that’s not an example of free will if in fact that’s what you’re saying.
That’s silly! Adam and Eve were not robots! They had freedom of choice. They chose wrong by using their free will given to them by God for selfish reasons. Even thought we are all in a fallen state, we are not forced to serve God. Hence, “ Free Will .”
@@alexanderkane3960 That is an example that we don't have free will. If we did, then God said he would acknowledge that we could save ourselves.
@@alexanderkane3960 did their free will enable them to live forever? Why didn't they will us all to be immortal?
What is Provisionism?
The terms Provisionism and Provisionist are new by the standards of Christian theology. These labels have only been formally defined and used in the past few years. In broad terms, a Provisionist-someone who holds to Provisionism-holds a generally Arminian view of free will and salvation, with notable differences such as positive belief in eternal security. The main gist of Provisionism is the idea that the gospel is the Word of God, which is sufficient in itself, through the power of the Holy Spirit, to enable a response in all who hear God’s appeal to be reconciled to Him (John 6:63; Hebrews 4:12).
The clearest differences between Provisionist doctrine and classical Reformed theology are seen in the concepts of total depravity and limited atonement. The doctrine of total depravity suggests all people are inherently sinful, such that they could not even want to be saved without a direct, predestined act of God. Provisionism counters that all people are sinful and responsible for their sin, but they are also responsible for answering God’s universal call for men to be saved (Titus 2:11). Limited atonement is a doctrine teaching that Christ only died for those God had designated as the elect. A Provisionist would reject this, saying that the Bible teaches that Christ died for all people (1 John 2:2), which is why God promises to save any who come to Him in faith (Romans 10:11-13; Revelation 22:17). The Provisionist holds that Christ genuinely desires all of humanity to be saved (Luke 5:32; 19:10; 1 Timothy 2:4-6; ).
In effect, this means a Provisionist would also reject other Reformed doctrines such as irresistible grace.
The main use of the term Provisionism comes from the writings of theologian Leighton Flowers. The term is also meant to describe the general approach to salvation held by most Southern and Independent Baptists. So far as Reformed doctrine is concerned, this means narrow disagreement on the subjects of total depravity and limited atonement, as well as the exact meaning of words like predestined and elect.
Similar to the TULIP in Calvinism, Provisionism can be summarized with the acrostic PROVIDE
Responsible: Able-to-respond to God’s appeals for reconciliation.
Open door: For anyone to enter by faith. Whosoever will may come to His open arms.
Vicarious atonement: Provides a way for anyone to be saved by Christ’s blood.
Illuminating grace: Provides clearly revealed truth so that all can know and respond in faith.
Destroyed: For unbelief and resisting the Holy Spirit.
Eternal security: For all true believers.
38:42 just because God can tell you why everything happened does not mean he made it happen, I could tell you about why some things happen that doesn’t mean I made them happen.
@BrockJamesStory exactly. Sovereignty does not mean God determines everything.
And Proverbs 16:9 certainly doesn’t say that either.
Not so sure that’s what those verses mean though, is everything y permission? Yes but that in itself means God does not make every decision he did not plan for everything that happens to happen, otherwise it’s not permission it’s his decision.
Someone murders someone it was Gods will and decision, but we know that’s not true it was by permission not decision. Other than decision to not act.
@BrockJamesStory don’t listen to this false teacher.
Jeff Durbin is a Calvinist and preaches a false gospel.
Sovereignty does not, has not and never will mean determinism.
@@apilkey I mean I think he has the right gospel, but maybe not the right theology
@@BrockJamesStorywell the Gospel means, “Good News”.
And we’re told what the Gospel is in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 which is Christ’s death burial and resurrection.
But in Calvinism it’s not Good News if you’ve been predestined to hell and Christ didn’t die for you.
It’s only good news if you’re one of the Calvinist elect and God has chosen to save you.
So then actually the only real good news is whether or not you’ve been chosen or not.
If you haven’t been chosen it’s not Good News, and if you have been chosen then that’s the actual Good News and Christ’s death, burial and resurrection are secondary, trivial formalities that don’t really matter to you because you’ve already been chosen.
@@apilkey that’s interesting I haven’t heard that point of view before.
Makes sense though!
PROVERBS 16:9
9 A man's heart DEVISETH HIS WAY: but the LORD directeth his steps.
Q: Yes or no according to the above verse does man have the ability to devise his own way?
This verse DISPROVES your view and proves mankind CAN devise his own way.
Answer this other question:
If God has predestined everything then please explain to me what exactly is God directing in this passage?
Is the Lord directing HIS own steps that He Himself has decreed?
So God is directing HIMSELF? 🤦♂️
See how non-sensical and foolish that sounds?
Does the above verse say that man has a free will? No it don’t.
@@aletheia8054Does the above verse say that God is sovereign?
No it don’t.
Does the above verse say that God determines everything and that sovereignty equals “determined before the foundation of the world”?
No it don’t.
@@apilkey it doesn’t say “God is sovereign”. It means God is sovereign.
@@aletheia8054 even if it means God is Sovereign, sovereignty does not, has not and never will have anything to do with determining something to come to pass.
So this passage still doesn’t mean what Calvinists need it to mean.
@@apilkey According to who?
Funny how he doesn’t use a single passage of scripture with the word sovereignty or sovereign in it.
He’s invented his own fleshly definition of sovereignty.
Suggestion:
Perhaps steel man his argument and offer a refutation instead of posting what comes across as a whiny canard subtly cloaked in the bearing of false witness. You know very well he didn’t “invent” anything. You just don’t like the reformed definition he uses.
Psalm 119:133
Keep steady my steps according to your promise, and let no iniquity get dominion over me.
Also, if you are a sincere apologist, please defend the trinity from scripture according to the standard by which you’ve judged pastor Durbin.
Psalm 119:133
Keep steady my steps according to your promise, and let no iniquity get dominion over me.
@@queenfoursuitedYes exactly, the “reformed definition.”
Not the Biblical one.
Thank you.
Typical tired non answer. Yawn
@@queenfoursuitedI gave an answer and that is Jeff Durbin and reformed theology have a twisted definition of sovereignty found nowhere in scripture.
You obviously couldn’t care less about scripture if you’re yawning about that.
becareful Jeff your gray hairs are coming 🤣🤣🤣
He’s a false prophet by the Bible’s standard.
Please explain that comment.
@@uriah4901 what part do you not understand?
@@alexanderkane3960 You Charged Durbin as a false prophet. Back it up. Apparently you know how to make charges, but not able to articulate your charge.
@@uriah4901 I’ve watched many of his TH-cam vids and he fits the description that chat gpt gives. I don’t know what to tel you. Would you believe it if I used grandiosities? I know some won’t listen unless you’ve attended an Ivy League school. Anything to try and shut up the truth of things. Jesus said it would be like this.
For someone to be considered a false prophet according to scripture or “Bible’s standard” he would have to either give a false prophecy that didn’t come into existence or happen, or he would lead you to another god or false idols and yet everything he teaches aligns perfectly with the word of God. So now you have two options, either prove that he’s a false prophet or recant your statement.