Cable Tool Drilling; 36 Cyclone

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  • This is a Sanderson Cyclone 36 Standard spudder, purchased new by my Grandad in 1969. This rig had many standard features that were ahead of it's time, including an all hydraulic system for raising the mast. My Grandad told me that the salesman at the factory told my Grandad that he wouldn't sell him that rig unless he put hydraulic jacks on it. My Grandad agreed to the jacks, and after using this rig for a short time, my Dad and Grandad took one of their 42's up to the factory and had jacks put on it, too. What a time-saver! This rig also features a 4 cyl. Ford gas engine, 4 speed transmission, stem guide, and is mounted on a '69 Chevrolet C-60. Other options offered, but not included on THIS rig, were: Extended mast, hyd. cathead, hyd. cylinder for tool joint breakout, rear mounted clutch and gearshift controls, and hand crank wire line feed. Cyclone was also building the rotary-spudder combinations at this time, and I've seen a few examples of this rig with a rotary table and mud pump, and a 15 ft. kelly mounted on the mast for shallow sand and gravel work. This video was shot while drilling a well deeper in northwestern Carroll County.

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  • @tonyhudson8698
    @tonyhudson8698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well 27 years of drilling here in New Zealand.
    Keystone rigs were the Hitters.
    1 old x steam driven rig even had water jacks for jacking back the caseing. Used 12 inch square hardwood beams for the bounce.
    Often I drilled to 100 mtrs plus.
    150 mm casing.
    Welded each join.
    NEVER ever had one break.
    Cheers to all out there.
    Ps, also used top drive rigs.
    Down the hole hammer.
    Cable tool slower but MORE Sure.

  • @SnowyOwlPrepper
    @SnowyOwlPrepper 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Great camera work. It hard to see how these work from most videos. You have a great rig.

  • @romulusrj
    @romulusrj 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been there and done that.

  • @marceloyare4162
    @marceloyare4162 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    where can we buy that machine?

  • @franciscoev
    @franciscoev 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are selling?

  • @kenjett2434
    @kenjett2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is no Cyclone rig complete wrong style.

    • @ropespear66
      @ropespear66  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sanderson Cyclone Drill Co. built this rig, as well as hundreds of others like it. There are several videos on youtube of this model, by others, with the same identification. A Google image search of "Cyclone 36 cable tool rig" will produce pictures of this model from all over the U.S.A. The brass plate on the rig says, "Sanderson Cyclone Drill Co.". I have the original bill of sale, as well as a factory brochure for the 36R (the rotary-spudder combination version built by Cyclone with the same spudder built-in), the factory parts book with engineering drawings, and finally, witnessed by my 82-year-old father, who was there at the factory in Orrville, Ohio where the rig was built, when the order was placed, and the rig was picked up. This was the "latest" version of the Cyclone 36, which was built from the mid-sixties until the closing of the Cyclone factory in the early eighties. There was an older version before this design which had a cable raised mast, a more angular frame made of channel iron, and slightly smaller gears, but the layout of the draw works and controls were essentially the same. I have a video of myself bailing on the "older" version posted, as well as a couple videos of the 36R, the Cyclone rotary-spudder combination. Cyclone also built a 36A (for spudder-auger combo), a 36TH-60 combination, and other models with this layout, such as the models 5 and 35 for lighter work, and the 38 and 43 for deeper wells.

    • @kenjett2434
      @kenjett2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ropespear66 I have been around cable tool rigs my whole life and have seen many. I have watched hundreds of videos not once have I seen a rig exactly like this one. Certainly not a Cyclone rig as the Cyclone Pittman and beam sets backwards to other rigs and has a different shive design. This rig may be called a Cyclone but it is almost an exact copy of a Bucyrus Erie with a touch of Speedstar design. I expect this is from a small independent shop that built a few of these machines copied after the true work horses. This isn't the true Cyclone drilling rig though they are very unique and unmistakable rigs. The mechanical lay out of your machine is practically a dead match for a Bucyrus while the power unit sets backwards like the speedstar on opposite sides of the rig. If I was to have closer inspection I expect I could find even closer similarities that this is a copied rig. Don't take this wrong even though it may be a copy they copied the best in the buisness and she is a good sound rig. But I know cable tools born and raised on them. It's not uncommon to find old rigs like yours where independent shops built and copied styles and sold them. They would make just enough change to avoid patent issues or in some cases build copies after the patents have expired. Happens all the time.

    • @ropespear66
      @ropespear66  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kenjett2434 In the "hundreds of videos" you have watched you must have missed a few. If you look at "cool 2013 029" you will see a 1914 Sanderson Cyclone rope rig with this exact layout. This is the design they started with before the invention of wire rope. Of course, you'll come back at me with the "I never saw it, so it doesn't exist" nonsense. The Drake Well Museum has the same rig, a 1917 model, mounted on a GMC Big Brute truck. There is currently an ad on eBay for a 1905 Sanderson Cyclone ad with a picture with this configuration, only the engine is near the mast and the boiler is out front.
      I'm very aware of the model you describe. I own one, a 42. They made a 40, a 41, a 42, a 44, and a 46, among others, all with the layout you describe- bull wheel back near the mast, beam hinges at the mast, belts on the right, sand reel up by the engine. The beam has an air piston shock absorber built-in. A very common rig around my area at one time. My 55-year-old business was started with one. But to say this style was the "true Cyclone" would be like saying the "Thunderbird" was the only "true Ford". Both were truly recognizable models of their own unique look and style, and both had a history before their time and carrying on of their manufacturer after their own run came to an end. You can simply look at my channel-I have not only this 36 Cyclone but a model 36 that is at least ten years older. It has the same layout, but the mast and framework are strikingly similar to it's "42" cousin because they were built at around the same time. Yes, I said it. A company can build more than one model, with neither having interchangeable parts, at THE SAME TIME!! Will a Bucyrus Erie 22W's gears mesh with those on a 20W? Not a chance. Same company, though.
      The reason for the design of the 42 and others like it, with the air piston in the beam, was the conversion from manilla rope to wire rope. Manilla rope had enough stretch to not need any kind of shock absorber, but wire rope did. The patent for the stacked rubber disks under the crown was likely first filed by Bucyrus, so the other manufacturers had to go another route. The air shock worked well, but the number of moving parts is ridiculous. The drilling line goes through twice as many sheaves on a 42 as it does on a 36, and with the piston linkage in the beam, has something like 19 grease fittings (and an oil reservoir) for just the parts that affect the beam and spooling of the drilling line, including the pitman and crown. The 36 has eight fittings to do the same job. So when the patent expired, most manufacturers went with the simple design of the floating crown. It was hardly the end of the Sanderson Cyclone Drill Company. They did build a few 44-rotary combination rigs, but this modern-looking rig in my video (36 Standard) was fitted with a 3 sided derrick in 1964 to introduce the "Cyclone 36-R Duo Drill", a rotary-cable tool combination. I own one of those and have videos of it on my channel as well, and the draworks are a carbon copy of this rig, as they were built the same year (1969), at the (same) Cyclone plant in Orrville, Ohio, only you'll say they don't exist because you never saw them, even though I have documentation, brochures, blah, blah blah. You could even bring your 36 Standard spudder back to the Cyclone plant, and they would retrofit a derrick and rotary table, and turn it into a Duo Drill. I've seen these retrofits with my own eyes-you can tell where the original mast hinges were cut off and moved out to accommodate the wider derrick. I have pictures in my personal collection. I've also seen this rig with a 3 sided derrick and no rotary table or rotary kelly, likely ordered to someday do a conversion that never happened. They also built the 36 Standard with the telescoping mast (like the one in this video) with a short kelly and a rotary table, used for shallow small diameter gravel wells. Cyclone would build anything you could dream up, which is why there are so many models out there. They had their own casting plant, built their own engines, forged their own drilling tools, even had their own unique tool joint size. Their rotary design eventually morphed from the Duo- Drill to the RO-300, into the Cyclone TH-60, which was the reason (patents!) they were acquired by Ingersoll-Rand, (which is now Atlas-Copco) in the mid-1970s. The bottom line is, I know what I have. I own 4 Cyclone machines. I know what they are and where they came from. I have seen, in-person and online, multiples of each model, and there are currently multiple examples for sale or in archived photos of past sales. I also save photos from past online sales in my personal collection. For someone to say, " I've seen it all and know it all " really closes you off to a wealth of information. I've been studying these machines and this company for a long time. Last year I was at a museum liquidation auction, and up for sale was a 4 cylinder power unit with "Cyclone" cast in the block, and "The Sanderson Cyclone Drill Co." cast into the radiator. I didn't yell at the auctioneer, "Cyclone didn't build that because I've never seen one!!". I bought it. I took it home. And with a little research, I found an ad from the late 1920s with a picture of my engine announcing the acquisition of a marine engine plant in Cleveland by...(drum roll) The Sanderson Cyclone Drill Co.!! It said all casting equipment and molds will be moved to the Cyclone plant in Orrville. I spent a couple hundred bucks, learned something, and may have the only surviving piece of an almost forgotten history. That's the point of my videos-to show something, that is slowly fading away, to a wider audience. If I document something incorrectly, I'll be the first to admit it if shown enough proof. I know you can't prove a negative, but "I've never seen it so it didn't happen" just proves a closed mind-it doesn't even come close to proving me wrong.