Here's a video with some casting tips that have worked for me throughout the years. Hopefully it'll help you in getting more backlash-free casts! #nobacklash
Thank you the informative video. I have several friends that have never fished or have never used a conventional. I'm sending them this link now before our trip tonight 👊🏻
Actually blacklashes happen because the line is going through the guides slowerthan than the spool is spinning. You want to slow the spool with your thumb so that the line leaving can catch up to the spool spin rate.
Great advice! I certainly agree casters need the basics... Could you offer intermediate advice to casting on a party boat where it seems that the pros are going starting the cast somewhere between one and two o’clock? Thanks for all you videos!
john444jc Yeah when fishing on sportboats you’d definitely need to be able to start your casts from less than ideal angles. I’ll do that vid down the line. Once you master 3-9 you can start shortening your starting position to 2-9 and so on until you’re comfortable with making decent distance from anywhere. 👍
@@mychalcummings4140 My reel ends facing the water at about 45deg. Some people rotate all the way around with the reel ending up facing straight down the water. That’s fine too. As long as it doesn’t end up facing directly to the sky. That’s a big no-no.
Ha. It would saved me much cussing if you had made this video a few months ago. I'm learning on the conventionals and keeping getting backlashed. I was casting like a baitcaster with no thumb play but just using the spool tension knob. I didn't realize that you should keep your thumb on the spool. I finally figured that out literally 2-3 weeks ago. I also realized why "Band Aid" power is necessary on braided lines. I got a nice rash on both thumbs after a session of casting. Great vid and great advice like always.
What is your opinion on a narrow spool vs reg for surface iron fishing i.e. torium 16 vs 20? With a 100 yard top shot does a narrow spool diameter decrease too much to pick up line vs a normal spool?
Got a question for you. I know you have both the Torium and Tern. Question is, does the Tern cast as well as the Torium? I have a torium but I’m looking into the Tern for throwing irons. Let me know, thanks.
It's really a personal preference thing. With certain set ups I like the braid to short leader. On others I go with about 50 yrds of mono topshot. Try both and see what's comfortable to you.
ethan huynh Like Jeff said it’s a personal preference. I like braid because it allows me to use smaller reels. Braid is definitely harder to cast so if you’re not that proficient with casting start with mono first. Then make the switch after you’re comfortable. Backlashes with braid are nasty. ✌️
From what I have tried (new to casting conventional myseld) is braid is much harder to cast if its dry, even if you just reeled in 15 minutes ago. I do have a Lexa 400HD that I run braid with short leader that doesn't pass the pole eyes for going into kelp beds. Otherwise adding a 100 foot of mono help cast (for me) jigs or live bait. Mono also helps keep the fish hooked because of it's elasticity. Just my thoughts.
What is the longest cast you will realistically have to make with surface irons? I get about 70 yards on a 7'6" Penn Rampage with a Tady 45 (3 oz) - is that OK?
Jigslinger's Fishing Channel yeah man! I have the same reel clamp for my fathom, got it at FHS, and it’s so much better than the one that comes with the penn reel
Susan Bates 7x light. Which is 3.5oz so it’s on the bigger end for surface iron. The 1st gen was produced too light to handle that size jig. 2nd gen could cast them but it was too stiff. Seeker got it right with gen 3 for throwing the 7x. So if the wish to cast the 7x iron with a white tiger go with gen 3. That’s the current gen and it comes in all sorts of colors.
girabaldy tasty Most of the rod wrapper guys get them from Seeker. I think they have a connection with them. I also heard of some aftermarket ones sold online as well.
Zach_ Kay I think one reason is Shimano has a bigger following in SoCal. Another is the Fathom has that funky way of clicking into freespool. Some people aren’t used to it. I have both the Torium 16 and Fathom 25N that I use for surface iron. For me the Torium gets more use because it’s a little more compact and fits in a Tib clamp making it more versatile for different rods.
A real good iron casting video should be done from a boat! No way you’ll have the freedom to cast “3 to 9” on party boat......do that and you’re gonna hook someone, lol. Look around and see that the old timers do in the bow, that’s we’re all the iron guys go....
Alex Morataya I said in the video this is a best case condition to practice in. I even said on a boat you’ll rarely have a chance for a full backcast. A place like this is where a person who’s not proficient needs to practice. Not on the bow of a boat during a hot bite. You gotta learn how walk first before running. ✌️ There are spots for a backcast that long on a boat. You can see them throughout my videos. Even a few in the highlight portion in the beginning of this video. But you gotta know what you’re doing to take advantage. Those aren’t the most ideal times to be practicing.
Cody 0_o I didn’t say it wasn’t a great video, those were not my words and I’m glad you got some tips with the being said, casting from a dock like he mentioned is a good idea for new ppl casting irons, you’ll learn the basics of casting and the basics for your equipment. There’s a big difference between casting on a sports boat with ppl around and from a dock. Kinda like practicing football and a real game....2 kinds of speed. Not knocking his video, just saying that casting 3pm to 9pm is almost impossible on a sports boat, that’s all.
Alex Morataya To me it’s like hitting golf balls on the range vs hitting them on the course. You can see when someone has a good swing on the range that it’ll be good on the course as well. I’ve watched all of this guy’s videos and he has very good mechanics. No doubt he can cast from anywhere. There are comments from people who have fished with him that said the same. I’m glad he took the time to share some things that could help people like me that still backlash almost everytime I’m out there. Lol
@@cody0_o779 The golf analogy is spot on! I just wish my golf swing is as fluid as my casting. lol Thanks for the comments! Keep working on your casting and those backlashes will be far and few in no time!
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Here's a video with some casting tips that have worked for me throughout the years. Hopefully it'll help you in getting more backlash-free casts! #nobacklash
Thank you the informative video. I have several friends that have never fished or have never used a conventional. I'm sending them this link now before our trip tonight 👊🏻
Glad it was helpful!
pretty good advice !
Good video, where did you go to practice your casting?
Actually blacklashes happen because the line is going through the guides slowerthan than the spool is spinning.
You want to slow the spool with your thumb so that the line leaving can catch up to the spool spin rate.
Are you still running these rod
eel setups? I’d love to buy one or two of them. I’m in Los Alamitos,,,, thanks
What length are those rods in the video that you are using? What do you recommend?
The Newlls have casting adjustments on the side. This will help with backlash but you will loose some distance.
Tips from the master!! Thanks Greg!!
Jeff Yoemans Not sure about being a master bro. But I manage to get by. Lol 🤙🤙🤙
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 you have spent a lot of hours working on your casting techniques. I'd say master fits.
Jeff Yoemans Appreciate that brotha 🤙🤙🤙🤙
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!!
Anyone can cast 3 to 9 learned cast 1 to 11 and you can cast anywhere on the boat
Solid information.Well explained thnks
Jose Ponce Thanks!
Great advice! I certainly agree casters need the basics... Could you offer intermediate advice to casting on a party boat where it seems that the pros are going starting the cast somewhere between one and two o’clock? Thanks for all you videos!
john444jc Yeah when fishing on sportboats you’d definitely need to be able to start your casts from less than ideal angles. I’ll do that vid down the line. Once you master 3-9 you can start shortening your starting position to 2-9 and so on until you’re comfortable with making decent distance from anywhere. 👍
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 the final position of the reel after casting is the reel face down horizontal to the water or vertical?
@@mychalcummings4140 My reel ends facing the water at about 45deg. Some people rotate all the way around with the reel ending up facing straight down the water. That’s fine too. As long as it doesn’t end up facing directly to the sky. That’s a big no-no.
What kind of rods do you use for surf rods?
Ha. It would saved me much cussing if you had made this video a few months ago. I'm learning on the conventionals and keeping getting backlashed. I was casting like a baitcaster with no thumb play but just using the spool tension knob. I didn't realize that you should keep your thumb on the spool. I finally figured that out literally 2-3 weeks ago. I also realized why "Band Aid" power is necessary on braided lines. I got a nice rash on both thumbs after a session of casting. Great vid and great advice like always.
Long T. Tang Better late than never right? Lol
Glad you’re coming along with that! You’ll be chucking them way out there in no time! 🤙🤙🤙
Thanks 🙏
What kind of pole are you using specs ?
How would you compare the newells to the trinis and toriums for casting? Anyhow, thanks for the info! Starting to learn and need a new reel
Alexander Ung They’re both great! Trini’s have better drags and built better overall.
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 thanks for the insight!
Nice!
What is your opinion on a narrow spool vs reg for surface iron fishing i.e. torium 16 vs 20? With a 100 yard top shot does a narrow spool diameter decrease too much to pick up line vs a normal spool?
MrBigFishJoe With mono I’d go with wider width spools. More capacity and wider is better for mono.
Got a question for you. I know you have both the Torium and Tern. Question is, does the Tern cast as well as the Torium? I have a torium but I’m looking into the Tern for throwing irons. Let me know, thanks.
David Tang Both are great reels. I give the nod to the Torium. 👍
@jigslinger's fishing channel ; should i throw straight braid and a short leader or braid backing and a 50-70 yards of mono?
I have 40b braid 800 yrds with 200feet on my shimano tourium 30hg
It's really a personal preference thing. With certain set ups I like the braid to short leader. On others I go with about 50 yrds of mono topshot. Try both and see what's comfortable to you.
ethan huynh Like Jeff said it’s a personal preference. I like braid because it allows me to use smaller reels. Braid is definitely harder to cast so if you’re not that proficient with casting start with mono first. Then make the switch after you’re comfortable. Backlashes with braid are nasty. ✌️
@@charliecohen2241 holy crap that is a ton of braid
From what I have tried (new to casting conventional myseld) is braid is much harder to cast if its dry, even if you just reeled in 15 minutes ago. I do have a Lexa 400HD that I run braid with short leader that doesn't pass the pole eyes for going into kelp beds. Otherwise adding a 100 foot of mono help cast (for me) jigs or live bait. Mono also helps keep the fish hooked because of it's elasticity. Just my thoughts.
What is the longest cast you will realistically have to make with surface irons? I get about 70 yards on a 7'6" Penn Rampage with a Tady 45 (3 oz) - is that OK?
Cape Fox 70 yards is great! 👍
was that reel clam you got on the black reel from Odyssey sport LLC?
brandon park From John at boilingtuna.net. They shared a booth at FHS. Great product! 👍
Jigslinger's Fishing Channel yeah man! I have the same reel clamp for my fathom, got it at FHS, and it’s so much better than the one that comes with the penn reel
Quick question. Is the Seeker White Tiger 7x built around the salas 7x light or heavy? Thanks
Susan Bates 7x light. Which is 3.5oz so it’s on the bigger end for surface iron.
The 1st gen was produced too light to handle that size jig. 2nd gen could cast them but it was too stiff. Seeker got it right with gen 3 for throwing the 7x. So if the wish to cast the 7x iron with a white tiger go with gen 3. That’s the current gen and it comes in all sorts of colors.
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 Thank you.
Hey do you know we're to get seeker decals? I just got a super seeker ulua blank and just realized it didn't come with the ulua decals.
girabaldy tasty Most of the rod wrapper guys get them from Seeker. I think they have a connection with them. I also heard of some aftermarket ones sold online as well.
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 oh ok that makes sense.
Why are the toriums so popular? I have one and I also have a fathom, and the fathom is so much more smoother.
Zach_ Kay I think one reason is Shimano has a bigger following in SoCal. Another is the Fathom has that funky way of clicking into freespool. Some people aren’t used to it. I have both the Torium 16 and Fathom 25N that I use for surface iron. For me the Torium gets more use because it’s a little more compact and fits in a Tib clamp making it more versatile for different rods.
Thanks for sharing 👌
Tony Taylor No problem! Hope it helps! 🤙
@@jigslingersfishingchannel3713 👌
What trigger is that?
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What’s your maximum distance?
Short
Is that a 500 narrow?
Assuming you’re asking about the blue reel. It’s a Newell P322 with Tiburon frame. A Penn 500 with 99 frame would look very similar as well. ✌️
Nice video train your thumbs people
jake bailey Thanks! That’s the key! 🤙
A real good iron casting video should be done from a boat! No way you’ll have the freedom to cast “3 to 9” on party boat......do that and you’re gonna hook someone, lol. Look around and see that the old timers do in the bow, that’s we’re all the iron guys go....
Alex Morataya I said in the video this is a best case condition to practice in. I even said on a boat you’ll rarely have a chance for a full backcast.
A place like this is where a person who’s not proficient needs to practice. Not on the bow of a boat during a hot bite. You gotta learn how walk first before running. ✌️
There are spots for a backcast that long on a boat. You can see them throughout my videos. Even a few in the highlight portion in the beginning of this video. But you gotta know what you’re doing to take advantage. Those aren’t the most ideal times to be practicing.
Alex Morataya What are you talking about? This is a great video! I picked up tips that I didn’t know. Thanks Jigslinger for posting!
Cody 0_o I didn’t say it wasn’t a great video, those were not my words and I’m glad you got some tips with the being said, casting from a dock like he mentioned is a good idea for new ppl casting irons, you’ll learn the basics of casting and the basics for your equipment. There’s a big difference between casting on a sports boat with ppl around and from a dock. Kinda like practicing football and a real game....2 kinds of speed. Not knocking his video, just saying that casting 3pm to 9pm is almost impossible on a sports boat, that’s all.
Alex Morataya To me it’s like hitting golf balls on the range vs hitting them on the course. You can see when someone has a good swing on the range that it’ll be good on the course as well. I’ve watched all of this guy’s videos and he has very good mechanics. No doubt he can cast from anywhere. There are comments from people who have fished with him that said the same. I’m glad he took the time to share some things that could help people like me that still backlash almost everytime I’m out there. Lol
@@cody0_o779 The golf analogy is spot on! I just wish my golf swing is as fluid as my casting. lol
Thanks for the comments! Keep working on your casting and those backlashes will be far and few in no time!