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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2022
- [GOING SEVENTEEN] EP.52 너 자신을 알라 #2 (Know Thyself #2)
Second episode of looking back on myself
to become a more mature human being🤔
Whether you know them or not, It’s fun either way!
13 members’ personality analysis - The Final!🧐
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Dk’s temperament of being illogical, although may seem at first like a negative quality, actually gives him advantages. We can see in many GOSE episodes how creative and funny DK can be.
He and Seungkwan are born entertainers.
He not logic at all
But because of his illogical idea, the content looks very interesting and funny... I love him.. 💕💕
True 💜😂 but I don't care for the test if it's positive or negative we love dk the way he is 💜💜💜💜💜 and the way he wants to be 💜💜💜💜💜
I'm actually curious why this is the only comment about dk? Like they showed the comment about being illogical which actually not only negative thing can be one of his powerfull point since it make him special and super loved but they could added other things they cut it off when joshua was going to say something and just added other cuts about the same idea being illogical even his conversation with woozi?
*talks about Wonwoo*
Doctor : “I’m curious why he chose this job, I would like to ask”
Seungkwan : “He’s too handsome not to be”
Wonwoo : *blush*
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time stamp?
@@hgons 18:27
I have been thinking about why Wonwoo would want to be an idol as well, it seems to be a bad fit for him. I always assumed being in Seventeen is what made it possible.
@@onlyonekpopfan4842i think its his unique aura and talents of learning so quick that gets overlooked a lot because people tend to see him only as a handsome member. Dont forget he was the CEO's fav during trainee days :) gotta be a reason for all this goodness! And he also mentioned he feels like himself in seventeen, they make him stand out when other areas couldnt
What doctor said about Mingyu is soo true.... he's so selfless and in going seventeen we can always see that every member teases Mingyu but he never holds grudges or gets angry at any member.
he's so pure and i seriously think he's the sunshine of the group
I never agreed with anyone before like I agreed with doctor here. Mingyu gets teased alot but as he doesn't have any ill intention it doesn't effect him at all which used to seem very weird to me but now i understood why.
He is a type of man who is ready to do anything for his beloved ones. All he needs is their love and attention ❤
couldnt agree more!!
My darling Mingyu 🥰🤗🥰🤗🥰🤗
In fact, Mingyu was, according to Seventeen, the one who encouraged everyone to sign the contract so that they could be together as a group for another few years. He didn't pressure them but he supported them and as I said before, he encouraged them with a positivism that infected everyone. that's actually very nice.
Seungkwan talking about his members is like a mom telling the doctor her kid symptoms and i'm living for it😂😂
Damn thats my fav comment for this episode 😂😂😂💙💙💙
I can confirm this as a mom myself 🤣🤣🤣
Fr 😂
😂😂😂
😊😂😂😂 so true.
After watching this, all I want is an episode dedicated for DINO being the maknae and being pampered.
UP UP!!
Yessss
UP! UP!
WE NEED THIS
YES PLSS
vernon and seungkwan: we're opposites, totally different ends of whatever spectrum
the universe: you have similar personalities actually...
but they get along very well. such a unique relationship
It's clear that they have the same personalities, but have different tastes.
Ikr LOL
They're soooooo different from my view but somehow keep having the same personality test result
Lol😆
Soulmate thingz💜
8:20 Dino having the highest point in generosity really made me proud. Despite being the youngest he's always attentive to others and takes cares of his members
Yes! I was so happy that it was validated that he adjusts for his hyungs!
@@BookCrazedKittythis made me soo happy🤍
Everytime I see Dino and Wonwoo crumbs, I smile bcoz i know it is not for the cameras .. I have always believed Wonwoo has a soft spot for Dino & this was confirmed when in the Soop, he knew Dino was bored so he asked Scoups if they could take dino along for the fishing trip ... Wonwoo is more like a silent admirer of their maknae. Dino can be a little too much to handle with his energy but I think Wonwoo , Seungkwan and to some extent even Jeonghan understand him.
Yeah... I won't say I'm a carat yet since I'm still new, but I watched a lot of going seventeen episode this days and wonwoo catch my eyes. Even only through some episodes that I watched I can feel that wonwoo really cares about Dino
Joshua loves Dino so much too
I think Vernon understands Dino well too
yes, wonwoo always recognized dino same with joshua and seungkwan, if youll finish all of their gose or svt videos, if wonwoo or joshua is with dino they always make sure he's heard and supported. not saying other members don't, but joshua wonwoo and seungkwan stood out the most when its about dino.
yes, wonwoo always recognized dino same with joshua and seungkwan, if youll finish all of their gose or svt videos, if these three is with dino they always make sure he's heard and supported. not saying other members don't, but joshua wonwoo and seungkwan stood out the most when its about dino.
This episode just reinforced my belief that Carats are the luckiest fandom in Kpop now. Imagine getting all 13 individuals with different personalities to agree to renew their contract and stay together as a group. It is quite an accomplishment. I love their friendship, it is so genuine.
super well said!!!
Well said 👍
Exactly what I thought!!!
13 personalities make one decision 💗
Oh agreed! Plus to see them just help each other overcome their tendencies and grow more mature....and them supporting each other... 😭😭😭❤️
The way Wonwoo fondly smiled when the doctor said that Dino is warm , sympathetic and considerate. Nobody indeed loves Dino as much as Wonwoo does 🥺
Aw that's true
I was shookt when the doctor said something abt dino that can lead to depression :(( i am kinda worried
Wonwoo dongsaeng pabo 🥺
@@krysianne8148 i knw right , but as we know now he shares his feelings with others so i think he will get over it with the hyungs support. Lets have faith in Dino and Seventeen 🌼✨💜
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The way the smile slowly faded from DK’s face as the doctor kept talking about his results was both heartbreaking and hilarious. He’s such a treasure-protect DK at all costs!!
DK takes things from different view. In game caterers episode when Joshua asked him about randomly singing he got offended. Even Mingyu and Seungkwan said he gets disappoint easily.
I wish they showed more of what was said about DK cause I don't think they aired everything about each member. Some members were cut short :/
DK is just soft and a big feeler. I get it, especially as an INFP-T myself. Yes, we can be illogical. We can be sensitive. We're the type to think with our hearts. Also INFP's are some of the biggest self critics, so I'm sure that lends to being offended easily by others words. Cause we are constantly critiquing ourselves already. It's rough honestly lol. I'm proud of DK though. There's definitely more behind the cheerful exterior we get to see. I just hope he doesn't doubt himself too much and sees his worth like carats do!
Towards the end, you can see how he's still hung up on being called illogical even though he makes it sound funny for the sake of the show. Being illogical goes hand-in-hand with someone who feels a lot. The heart and the brain are like opposites. The only way to be less illogical is by going through tough life experiences that will force you to act with thought rather than feeling. It's truly only life experiences that can change you. And yet, I think it's something that a person cannot inherently change a lot. At least, this is what I feel from my personal experiences.
14:22 that part about mingyu is soo correct!!
"You try to maintain harmonious relationships with the people around you"😭😭😭
He was the one who continuously told seventeen for the contract renewal 😭😭😭😭
when was this?
Thanks to him a lot! If it's not because of his strong desire to stay together with Seventeen, I won't be here in this precious fandom with precious boy group
I am so grateful to him. I understand why possibly svt wants to disbands (however can't be fully sure) but honestly I really thank him and fairly grateful to him.
Edit: although I do understand mingyu as to why. I too like to keep my connections around and prefer closer connections (quality > quantity). And I would do whatever it takes to keep them. I think Mingyu wouldn't be able to live the rest of his life, without Seventeen by his side. Sure they'll all stay connected, but there is a opportunity to be next to all his mates and he will take the chance to make more memories. Thank you Mingyu
@@clevimbardshine1543that’s false. It’s because of seungkwan
@@kabirnegi6882They literally said that by themselves, do you know them more than they do ?
The others, quietly but humbly getting roasted alive by the doctor. Meanwhile:
Doctor: "You can come across as selfish."
Wonwoo: "Yes! I'm very selfish 😊"
lmaoo
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I'm your 1k like 😌
not the 😊 emoji looking exactly like him LOL
My aegi Wonwoo 😍🤌🏼✨
What's left in my mind after today's episode
- Mingyu, Shua, and The8 are more alike than they thought
- Vernon and Seungkwan are more alike than they thought
- the Hyungs are more immature than they thought
- DK questioning his whole existence after being told he tends to be illogical
- Mingyu is too nice for his own good
- Seventeen knows Dino is just the right amount of selfish
- Wonwoo baffling everyone being an idol based on the test
- Woozi is CEO material
- Hoshi is not actually an introvert
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the DK part I cant XD, its too funny when you said "questioning his whole existence" i laugh so hard HAHAHAHAHAHA
Lmao what a way to describe
yasss thanks 😊 😂😂😂
you missed JUN
26:57 I love that the members were hyping up Jun to get back at Seungkwan for scolding him earlier but Jun is too nice to do that. It's so wholesome.
하 나도 이거 좋아서 돌려봄 I agreee Its a so sweet moment
I’m bad at demanding things
it’s not often that you get to know your idols in such a deep and detailed way as this, thank you seventeen for sharing this with us :)
You are absolutely right
Carats are so privileged...so grateful to be a part of this fandom
This fandom is so spoiled lol, I'm so jelaous with older carat since I'm a baby carat
I'm not carat but I'm into psychological concepts, so here I am, it's so interesting
honestly i almost cried when Joshua said "We dont think that, Dino" with a serious face and Seungkwan said "We know that you're selfish" in a joking manner so that Dino doesn't feel pressured. I love their bond so much and the way they take care of each other. I hope Dino finds balance in how he wants to express himself and be happy.
Minute? 🥺
@@Ayateoniism 24:00 ✨
I cried and laugh because of seungkwan's comment
Yess Joshua was being serious with his comment. I love how they are considerate of each other. Thus episode told us alot about Seventeen's bond. I am happy that they gave us such a heartwarming content ☺💗✨
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Now we understand why dk needs jeonghan in his life, because he needs a logical person besides him 😂
Lmao fr boi would have lost his sanity if not for Jeonghan-
😂😂😂
"Dk nugu pabo?"
Top comment 😂
Hahah,
Now I understand why DK is an introvert but still manage to be the funniest member cause he’s illogical😂
HAHAHAHAHA
Sorry but I couldn't disagree on this hahaha and Hoshi being introvert but has a volatile personality😂😂
Now I can fully understand why Seungkwan is the only normal in BooSeokSoon. Him being an extrovert but his introvert side shows whenever he's with Dk and Hoshi
make sense 🤣
Rewatching this again and I had a little realization on Dino's TCI. The doctor said he had tendencies that can lead to depression then his hyungs proceed to tell him to be more selfish and act as a real maknae (it reminds me of that one Svt in the soop where seungkwan also told Dino that they won't scold him for being the maknae). Having 12 older hyungs, he grew up to be generous and mature at a young age. Dino also pointed out that whenever his hyungs told him to be more selfish, he thought that he's already selfish enough when clearly he is not.
Our Dino is really kind so I hope he's always happy all the time 🥺
❤️❤️❤️
our dearest maknae ~~~
Exactly he matured too young 🌱
Our nodi
I believe Dino is also the oldest son in his family. So he probably tends to act older than his age with his family + becomes mature faster because he debuts with lots of older members
Maybe SCoups isn't the ideal leader on paper, but on reality he is. You can see how much he loves his group. He's never domineering or taking most of the spotlight but lets the others shine. He leads with his heart. I think Hoshi would be an excellent leader too but more in a military style.
Agree. I think with 13 people with very different personalities (and no one is high in responsibility), S.Coups is the perfect leader. People often think of leadership as being a pioneer who walks in the front and makes sure people follow them. There are leaders who walk among the people, understanding them and making sure no one is left behind or no one runs too fast that they are detached from the community. People can say S.Coups is being insecure, but I think it can also be interpreted as being humble.
MORE MILLITARY STYLE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, It might be true because he is the most strict in the group
I think that’s why we have 3 leaders. One who leads with his heart, one with head and the other with rules.
@@tb1179 can u pls tell me who leads with head, heart and rules ???
@@hobaksowner8123 heart: s.coups, head: hoshi, rules: woozi :)
I don't know why but I just felt really fond of Jeonghan in this episode. I like that he seems content with his style and how he can be both a weird attention seeker and a mature caretaker at the same time. Also how his personality type from the last episode just shows how much he looks out for the people around him.
fr
He is just like me. I can relate to him. Maybe thats why i choose him as my bias after binge watching GoSe.🥲🤍
My personality is kinda simillar to him except that my mbti is isfp. And i could relate so much to him when the "attention seeker" part xD. But my bias is wonwoo lmao
When hear doctor explain about jeonghan, i actually think that its about me hahahh.
i'll talk more about jun here because he was rarely mention here 😂 anyways, the doctor said that he's an extrovert and the fact that no one was really surprised with that shows how much we don't know jun privately and how the members do. 💕 they often say that jun is very playful but gets shy when you suddenly put him on the spot. nct's chenle's also said that his first impression of jun is approachable and had no problem being friends with him despite the age difference. he also said in that radio show that if he has a good impression of you it's easy to approach him or he will approach you (i am paraphrasing here tho). i guess, we have that introvert impression of him because he rarely talks on their shows since he is not really confident with his korean. but have you seen the guy in a chinese show??? he talks a lot and making jokes on camera with the other celebs! hahahaha
Yes agreed, that Chinese show where Jun and The8 were featured, it was really a new side . Im new in the fandom so i don't really know about their predebut days but what ive seen in going seventeen so far ,Jun and The8 usually stays quiet and just go with the flow whereas in that Chinese program i saw them all lively especially Jun , i loved all his talks,jokes and laughs .I thought 'wow , what a sunshine!' . I guess its more comfortable for him since he's in his homeland.
Note: im not saying that he is uncomfortable here , ofcourse everyone loves him and pampers him or vise versa , its just there's no language barrier (china). I love svt~
@@yoursinspiration2957 Jun is maybe the actual craziest member in seventeen tho lol. He has matured a lot, but he still shows that side of him occasionally. Yes the language barrier made it difficult for all the foreign members, but I think vernon and jun handled it the best. Jun has a really unique personality, and when you grow as a carat, im sure you will discover so many more sides to him and all of seventeen. BTW Welcome to the fandom baby carat!
@@Svtrighthere2019 Aww thank you so much .The amount of love i have for SEVENTEEN and the fandom is unmeasurable. Im looking forward to our beautiful journey ahead! Fighting!!
The moment the expert said tha Dino "gets depressed when is rejected by others" made me so emotional. He's a baby. Please give him all the love he deserves!!!
I thought about the time Jcarats would skip giving him a high five at fanmeet 😡
dino needs lots of love ❤️❤️
@@totoroxx9173 i remember that too. He doesn't deserve that 😭
Me tooo. He often got ignored by some carats. I remembered the time he was on live and carats kept asking for other members. I'm so sad. I hope the members love him enough to complete him (seriously sometimes they teased him so much that I felt bad like in the ad-lib company episode). I want him to be happy.
For someone who was born on 1999, he is actually more mature than people around his age, or to be more specific idols around his age. Probably because he debuted from such a young age with a lot of older peole surrounded him, he doesn't have the right times nor place to act like how 17 years old can act.
Isn't he also the oldest in his family? It drive him to think that he is responsible for all of things, so he feels like he need to conduct himself right.
Before this episode, you can actually see that he wants to be more selfish, but from his perspective, he can't. I also have a feeling that he thinks it's still hard for other people to fully accept him, so he feels that he really shouldn't be too selfish or else people won't accept him. Poor Dino :(
no hes a grown man with emotions, not a baby
The funniest is the oldest line member have a low score at generous, but the youngest line member have a high at generous- at the end, all member already know, how much DINO effort😂😂😂
that must be why he could put up with his hyungs teasing all those years lol
I suddenly remember that one fine day Japan episode lmao
@@Fernanda-lm9kx me too. cuz hyung line was a lil bit harsh to maknae line
Its obvious and alternate with bts..but both i love..
@@mr-ek6yi yea they were a bit harsh. Until Hoshi got mad for reals 😥😥😥 I guess it’s hard to draw the line between creating entertaining content for viewers and going too far.
The part about the foreign members (Joshua, Jun, and The8) having low anxiety levels, yet being very adaptable makes sense. If you're an international member of a group, you may feel like an outsider, yet having low stress/anxiety levels means that you adapt well to different cultural and social situations, a key to sucess for international members.
When the psychiatrist said that having low anxiety levels is a key to their success, it actually makes sense. If you go in w/a calm mindset, you are less likely to be anxious or scared, making you more likely to succeed. If you think about it, it makes sense why certain international k-pop idols have been able to find success or successfully debut is bcuz they have low stress levels or they are quite adaptable 2 life in a foreign country.
True. Also, if they were more anxious as people they would never have come to Korea to try to be an idol in the first place.
they know how to disengage from their emotional side. there is a lot more to life than their struggle to make it in the industry, thus the many hobbies and expertise
I’m not a seventeen ‘s stan, but I was impressed by Dino. He looks like a person that think a lot before talking and at least just give up and let the others talk. Even the fact that he nod when the doctor say “you could have depression” or something like that it’s really sad to watch. He probably knows about this trait, I think caused by the fact that he debuted really young and immediately took on many responsibilities, plus criticism that can be destructive especially when you are still in the growth phase. All of this lead the person to shut up and not talk about their problems, making them magnify.
So I hope the other guys gonna help him, spoil him more and make him talk more about his thoughts/doubts ♥️
I agree, debuting at a really young age totally holds a big role in idol's mental health.
Yeah whenever he gets cut off, ignored or roasted he just accepts it easily and that makes me worry about him. I hope he doesn't internalise the way the members treat him sometimes
The members only treat him that way in entertainment shows though. In the candid moments like In the Soop or Inside Seventeen, it is clear they actually baby him a lot.
Just looking back at the past few years in Kpop, I worry about Dino now. I hope that he can find healthy ways to cope. ❤ I hope the hyungs continue to take care of their maknae behind the cameras. I hope Dino continues to laugh genuinely because his laugh is beautiful. ❤❤❤
I agree and even before this I could tell he probably at some point battled or battles with some depression I think that’s why he’s my bias bcs I can related to him a lot. I love everyone on SVT but Dino just always drags me back to his little caring smile, he’s a pure soul 😌
I just want to hug DK and give him all the love. Being illogical is not necessarily negative and it makes him who he is. The purest and kindest soul.
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True. he looks offended by it really 🥺 my poor baby must protecc at all costs
Dk is just like me... :") i felt you too dk :"D
He is pure
That's true
도겸아 찝찝해하지 말어라
비논리적인게 늘 가슴을 뜨겁게 만드는 법이다.......
오 가슴뜨거워지는 댓글
논있있아 논없없아!!!
마자 !!!
맞아.,,. 나처럼 가슴 뜨거워지는 망상도 못하는 인간이 있다구
프사 감덩 받은 지금 내 표정 ㅠ이세여~.~ 잉뿌삐
Joshua: “We don’t think that, Dino-ya”
Jeonghan: *re-affirms*
BRB 😭😭😭
I remembered in Knowing Bros, Soo geun said jokingly to Dino, "What exactly are you good at?". Dino answered that people actually said that to him and it hurt him. I don't know how Dino's mind work and I don't know how he is feeling right now, but I hope he knows that we love him no matter what and he doesn't need to prove us more.
Seriously?? But he’s such a good dancer and has such a nice voice (one of my faves in the group) and he’s so funny too? If he’s not talented then what does that make the rest of us haha
Yeah but i hope ppl reading this wont think soogeun badly. He's not saying that to hurt Dino. They're just guessing for the question given. They did that in every episodes
@@mai4717 Yes, Soogeun is a very nice and considerate person He takes good care of his juniors and treats them well!
Yeah, that part was painful on Knowing Bros :/
he is an all rounder.. someone gives him the title " future of k-pop"
완벽하게 다른 기질 유형인 승관이 버논이가 성장과정에서 영향 받아서 성격은 거의 동일하게 나왔다는게 너무 재밌고 신기... 98즈의 인생사,,,,
본인들도 서로 엄청 다르다고 하는데 2년전에도 둘이 MBTI 같은거 나왔던게 이제 이해됨ㅁ.. 98즈 신기하다
서사 너무 영화같음
죽고싶다 98즈 ㅜ
진짜로...... 얘네들의 관계성이란....ㅜ
진짜 자라온 환경도 굉장히 다른데 메로나 시절을 거치면서 유일한 동갑내기로 부터 영향을 주고 받으며 서로 비슷해진게 미친 서사 영화도 이렇게 만들면 욕먹는다ㅠㅠㅠ
Joshua is so affectionate tbh. His cute little smiles whenever he looks at the other members and him looking at the members time to time to see how they're reacting. The way he pats the younger members hair when he praise them and when he say they look cute is the most endearing thing to me.
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Absolutely right
That paired with his soothing kind voice ackkk where do I find men like Shua irl😆💔
I was scrolling and only saw comments about Dino, scoups, jeonghan and mingyu (they r fab but;) it's nice to see Joshua being appreciated, coz he looks too polite and too considerate of others that he rarely gets screentime...
Being a Dino stan seeing how the other members reassured him that being selfish was okay made my eyes water, especially with how serious Joshua's facial expression was when he said "we don't think that." Dino doesn't nearly get the recognition that he deserves. He is so talented in literally everything that he does and he needs more recognition. There is a reason why he is my ultimate bias. Give Dino more love ❤️ he deserves the world
22:26 Dino's reading reminded me of when Seungkwan said that Dino is the type to hide his feelings. He doesn't want to seem as vulnerable and he does his best to always be mature. But sometimes it's ok to be a little childlike, to act as the maknae.
My dear Dino it's ok to not be mature always. Don't be too hard on yourself ❤️
I love just the way Dokyeom is, whatever he is, whoever he is. I never want him to change. He always gives his best. I love him so much
I just said the same thing 🥺😭
Me tooooooo💜💜
Sameeee
haii do you know which video mentioned in 0:46 ? i want to watch it🥺🥺
@@minjakeu that’s from another program called Infinite Challenge
first of all, s.coups saying "you should have been the leader." to hoshi broke me, like you are the best leader ever, stop it
second of all, dk being illogical is not a bad thing, it makes you special, and you can think and look on things in many different ways which gives you an advantage
and finally, SOMEONE TAKE FUCKIN CARE OF MY PRECIOUS MAKNAE BECAUSE THE DEPRESSION PART MADE ME WORRIED HE DESERVES ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD thanks
I thought I was the only one who noticed s.coups' reaction when he said that to hoshi🥺
s.coups saying these words had me almost crying like man you don’t give yourself enough credit
also that shows his dissatisfaction with his succeeding which was stated by doctor earlier.. he is so hard on himself
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Tbh I'm also pretty illogical sometimes. I'm sure the majority of people are. Also, the thing this person forgot to mention is that people are born with character, but personality develops. The temperaments are just the character they were born with which helped them shape their personality in the future, it doesn't mean that's all who they are. The description was pretty vague. It's too general. They obviously show different sides to different people. Different situations have different reactions. They can be as bold as they can be anxious depending on the topic
Ikr, even in seventeen project (I don't remember very well), he said that he would preferred that Hoshi was seventeen's leader, cause he seems abler than he :(
AAAAA sorry for my bad English btw u.u
I find Vernon's and Seungkwan's results during the whole MBTI series very interesting. At first glance, I wouldn't think they're personalities are similar at all. In fact, they seem like two totally opposite ends of a spectrum. Seungkwan is very loud and active while Vernon seems more quiet and reserved so I was surprised that they got the same results in the first test. But after they re-did the test, even If they got a different MBTI as their last one, they still share the same new one. Even in the more professional analysis by the doctor, he concluded that Vernon and Seungkwan's personalities are indeed the most similar. I think it makes so much sense now why they understand each other the best.
No, their personalities are not similar. At the beginning of the episode the difference between temperament and personality was explained, what they are similar is in temperament, but their personalities are still completely different, the mbti you can't take it seriously when they themselves disagreed and the members joked by choosing answers to make it more fun, Vernon said many times that he is ISTP and Seungkwan i don't know if he revealed his mbti but in these episodes he said he doesn't agree with be an ENTP
When they said Mingyu is the most altruistic person and never holds any grudges, I got flashbacks of all the past gose episodes where he was betrayed, teased and bullied multiple times yet he kept smiling and kind in the upcoming episodes..
Also how he does most of the cooking and other household chores without complaining shows how much he cares about the other members.
6:30 When doctor says he don't understand why S Coups falls in 'self directedness group' and then the caption says 'he might be one of the youngest members somewhere else' It broke my heart. It must be hard to be youngest in the family and being oldest in the group. I just want to hug him and tell him he is the best. The whole world belongs to him. Please don't underestimate yourself. We love you S Coups, you are the best leader.💙💙💙💙💙
P.S. -I have been watching these episodes again and again and I stan the whole group.
Yesss ❤ you are right
This episode explains why sometimes i think DK speaks and acts illogically, but then I interpret this things as cute and charming.
And now I realized why he's so good at GoSe Debate Night😂 He's really good at being illogical hahaha😆
@@user-uc5il9en5p Facts HAHAHA
@@user-uc5il9en5p that show was probably made for him
@@aerimarie exactly lmao
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So, this episode answered the question why Yoon Jeonghan loves creating characters HAHAHAHAHA now we know it, thanks Doc! Problem solved HAHAHAHA.
YES! Psychology has the way to answer our questions hehe
@@ceopicheolin YES! THAT'S TRUEEEE.
AND WE LOVE IT EVERYTIME HAHAHA
@@luvletter93 HAHAHAHAHA WE ENJOYED IT SO MUCH!!
The way jeonghan is happy with what he have and doesn't dream of anything more big or grant.This shows that how grateful he is.
Having a professional solidify why Hoshi and Woozi became the leader of their own respective unit is so satisfying. Hoshi who is so driven and passionate that through his choreographies, Seventeen was able to solidify themselves as a dance-based group from the get go even amidst heavy competition at the time. And Woozi who is so meticulous and has set such a high standard for himself that his discography has set Seventeen on a path full of accomplisments and awards.
Jeonghan having the least desire for success amongst them has to be the MOST ACCURATE thing that has been said this entire episode
Agree 👍
if you watch the behind of them in music show, he always said his not expecting to win and the members said it's not easy not to expect anything.
It's like "If we win, we win. If we lose, we lose."
Poor dk cannot stop thinking about him being illogical 😂 also so excited for the next going because I loveee their physical games
For me….DK enjoys life. He always has a smile on his face, if someone is sad, he sits by them. His illogical ways enables him to be in the moment. He takes people for who they are and enjoys the time with them. How great it is to have a friend like DK.
@@cynthiakent4033 this is so well said! its true, he's so precious>>
@@cynthiakent4033 true true if him being illogical is one of the reasons he is endearing, then we wouldn't have it any other way ^^
Mingyu being selfless and Wonwoo being selfish, Omo opposite really attracts my MinWon heart😭❤️😍
When he said that Mingyu is the most altruistic among them. I was like "I totally agree". He is not my bias but the fact that he is the one who has the most potential to go solo and leave the group but he is the one who initiate the topic of contract renewal, because he care for the fans, he care for the group itself, and he care for his members. He's indeed an altruistic.
Agree with this in totality. I just stan them like literally in less than a week. I’ve been a fan of kpop since 2nd gen and this group amazed me how they get to renew the contract and mingyu plays a big role in making it possible. I mean, why? I believe he has the most chances to go solo but he remain to stay. Then, i started stanning SEVENTEEN.
bb carat here
@@haeratan5354 i know right. He has a lot of money but he still chose to live with Wonwoo bcoz for them, for him, Wonwoi still need someone to take care of him
Dino is so sweet i wish him all the happiness in the world, my heart dropped when the Dr said that his type of personality is more likely to get depression and dino gave that look in his eyes as he lowered his head and said ''right''
svt members and carats pls give him a lot of love affection and appreciation 😭😭😭
and the way the hyungs started to get serious after that. 🥺🥺🥺
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of couse we will and always will
our precious maknae
Wow Seungkwan and Vernon have had a personality test three times through gose and everytime they come out as being similar. They must be soulmates
But I think with this type when you watch the room you can either A) Take charge and be loud and change how the room is feeling with jokes or attention on you or B) sit back and watch and support and prompt and encourage others. In this way I think they are two sides of a coin. My cousin and I are like this. Both have the same feelings but different ways to help.
@@a1132852 ohhh that makes sense. The two sides of a coin comparison really fits them
And they are surprised every time 😅
Dino being the highest in generosity, i couldn't agree more. 🥺🌸
generosity means?
@@royalT-ara kindness and willing to help and give others the most? not quite sure how to explain
@@ashlynmahun ohh thank youuuuu
@Golden Army thank youuu dino really sich a pure
DK being so concerned about being “illogical” was the purest, sweetest thing. He’s so cute. He’s my bias wrecker for a reason.
Jeonghan is an old soul trapped in a young man body, he just let everything flow and satisfied with his current condition.
Yes truly
Not an ambitious person kekekeke
i am in love
@@minhoekitty3700 i am also in love
I love his temperament. He is not too boring and not too energetic. He is also loved by members and you can tell during their MBTI. He is their comfort zone.
The way the rest of the members were so attentive and concerned when it was time for Dino's results. How they took turns reading Dino's TCI results thoroughly as they heard the doctor explaining in further detail. When Dino said it felt wrong to act selfish, how the hyungs immediately refuted him and tried to reassure him. Dino, you are doing enough, you are enough. Please know being yourself the way you are, that your hyungs and CARAT will still love you for you. It's okay to be selfish. Precious maknae.
The doctor even questioned wonwoo why he choose this job since he was introvert then seungkwan bluntly said "we need his visual" gose editor "he would have been on tv anyway"
Well our wonu has 13 friends(+family) anyway so it's enough for him😂
기질적으로는 남에게 공감하기 어려울 수 있지만 후천적인 성격으론 공감을 잘한다.. 이편 보고 진짜 디노 전에도 좋았자만 너무 좋아짐 ㅜㅜㅜ입덕방송이다이건...
Finally dino’s got his acknowledgement for being the most generous
You can clearly feel and see how the atmosphere turned into more serious on Dino's turn to the point that they even looked at his result by themselves and read it.
We need a episode where our maknae dino gets to do whatever he wants and make his hyungs do what he wants them to do as well, we need maknae on the top episode
Dino experience being the maknae on top in the program Magic Lamp. Magic Lamp hyungs treated him as their baby and let's him decide what he wants to do or what he wants the hyung to do. 😢
@@jihyomin oh really!! where can I watch it?
디노는 성격이 정말 많이 바뀌었다....힘들었을텐데 긍정적으로 변하고 사람들에게 마음을 여는 사람이 된게 너무 신기해...
What the doctor said about Seventeen's Hyung line not acting like one is really accurate. It feels like all the members have a strong bond with each other despite their age, they are so comfortable with each other which i really love about them. A lot of groups do not have this type of natural chemistry and friendship between them, it makes them really stand out and unique. They've this attractive energy about them that makes you feel as if you're having the best fun time with your 13 best friends.
agree! they trust their dongsaengs so much they're able to show the immature side of themselves. I think it's amazing
exactly. well said
thats why when i was a new carat i was so confused when i found out the dongsaeng side were the more generous and more reasonable ones with each other and with the people around them bc typically its the hyung line that are like that, this dynamic is so interesting to me definitely reminds me of one find day in japan lol hyung line can be slightly more immature
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The ending clip is another addition to times when SVT members adoringly tells how cute Jun is
This GoSe episode made me really understand each member better. SCoups is a good leader no argument on that. The doctor saying that Scoups doesn't have that high points in terms on responsibility maybe because he trusts his members so much that even without his presence, they can handle it very well. Just like what Dk once said that seventeen never let him down. My bias is Hoshi though for me SCoups is the best choice for being the general leader 'coz he can balance Hoshi's strictness and Woozi's perfectionist side that makes the group work harmoniously. Dino's TCI result should really get more attention(shoutout to Pledis though) but I know that the hyungs really adores their maknae that they're able to take good care of him very well. Dk's illogical thinking really adds more flavor to the group that he can be more creative which often leads to a better outcome. Stanning seventeen is really a great choice. Saranghae Sebongiess❤❤
2:33 Seeing Shua say that he, Mingyu and The8 really understand each other when they talk and then remembering how Gyu was wiping away Shua's tears this year in Japan really got me in my feels 😭😭😭
24:12 the way dokyeom's smile fell into a serious face then he says "am i illogical?" is sooo relatable and funny loll
It is too cute
IKR
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and sad at the same time since he's questioning his existence. I'll always love SVT no matter what they are, they deserve the best!❤️
As a Dino fan, He changed a lot…
I think those ppl rejecting him, telling him he was soo ugly makes him more mature now!! Dino-ya!! You endured it well!! Don’t forgot there are many ppl loves you as who you are!! You are ball of sunshine!! Please continue to smile!! ㅠㅠ Like seungkwan said before You can just be a baby!! Don’t Take everything seriously!! 😭
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me too
Dino has the best laughing voice ever! I love to hear him laugh out loud!
WHO DARE SAID URI MAKNAR UGLYY??!!! how cruel, cant they see his beautiful smile his lovely heart😔😔
ugly where ???? that can't be true, DINO is SO HANDSOME and CHARMING, he has unique traits that I absolutely love !
이 편을 보면.. 막 마음이 따뜻해져..
딘깅쓰 14살 어린 나이에 고향에서 서울 올라와가지구.. 갓기시절 메로나 영상 보면 쪼끔은 예민하구 소심하구 아직 다듬어지지 않은 어린 성격이 보이고, 데뷔초 영상 봐도 야망 가득하고 가끔은 이기적인 막내같은 모습이 보이는데 이게 타고난 기질이었던거구
최근 모습은 볼수록 어쩜 사람이 둥글둥글.. 주변 분위기 좋게 만들어주고 반짝반짝 빛나는 애기인지..ㅠㅠ 자존감도 높고 성격도 따스하고 안정적이고 공감도 잘해준다는 이 사실 자체만으로도 너무 좋은데, 타고난 기질은 그렇지 않았음에도 성장해서 만들어진 성격이라는 사실이 더더 디노를 좋아하게 만든다..ㅠㅠ 우리이쁜이 사랑혀..
I love being a Carat. Reading the comments got me teary.
We Carats are worried about Dino not being selfish enough and SCoups saying Hoshi could have been the leader when he is the best leader Carats could have asked for. Hoshi is the perfect Performance Leader and Woozi is the most amazing Vocal Boss.
Seventeen is so incredibly special! I have never liked any artist for so long.
Dino's one was so sad :( He has a strong mind to brush through all this but sometimes i feel like we (carats) really underappreciate Dino, like his amazing danceologies and high-five.
:'(
Ikr we should protect our maknae at any cost
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인원수가 많으니까 특히 다양한 유형 살펴보기 개좋고 그게 만들어내는 케미까지 진짜 갓벽한 세븐틴
yess true
ㄹㅇㅋㅋ 많아서 재밌음
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This episode increased my respect towards S.COUPS, man wasn't a born leader but meant to be one and as well as his group he is a SELF PRODUCED LEADER ❤
Dino entire reading just made so much sense and really showed us some of the depths of his character. Hes the highest for generosity bc hes very generous in letting his hyungs take the lead while providing and adjusting for them when needed. He constantly reads the room bc hes the youngest, being surrounded by multiple people who are older than you can be quite difficult. I remembered what he said, "Some things he does for one of his hyungs, might not work/help another hyung in a similar situation". Again, very statement making that line. And being rejected and feeling hurt, leading to depression. I believe affects him the most out of eveyone , bc he WANTS to do better and BE better when he already is. The hyjbgs are right you can be a little more selfish dino❤❤❤❤
Dokyeom, you are the warmest person to ever exist. Your "illogical" mind helps you to perform, act better, read books to us with all your sincerity and make us happier day by day. Thank you for that~도아해💗
True this.
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for real tho! creative and imaginative people tend to be a little bit illogical.
100% agreed!!
Eveytime they conducted this kind of personality tests, I still can't believe how Seungkwan and Vernon always got the same or almost the same results. Ik they are one of our great pairs here, but based on how I watch them, I just can't grasp that they are the same, coz they look like different poles for me.
Meee tooo. I'm always always always shocked.
In the first mbti content, it was explained (though not 100% reliable) that they have the same personality but different tendencies of reacting towards their feelings/surroundings. And i think that is so cool :3
S a m e ! They act such polar opposite yet they are similar. I still can't grasp on the psychology of their personality being similar.
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Not discounting the other members but this ep I really felt for the oldest and the youngest here- S.Coups with the amount of pressure he would and continues to be under to lead his team that it's no wonder he couldn't afford to think for years about creating his own personal environment, he's had 12 kids to think about 24/7; and Dino although being the maknae feeling the need to be switched on and reign it in a lot.
I wish every single one of these kids, especially Coups and Dino, every success and happiness and for them to know that they are all loved. I'm so glad they have each other and that I'm so privileged to witness their journey. Seventeen FIGHTING!
셉내에서 멤버들끼리 폭로하고 디스하고 다투고 다시 화해하는 이 일련의 과정을 불면제로라는 네글자로 표현할 수 있는게 너무 웃기다 그냥 우리만의 밈인데 이보다 더 잘 설명할 수가 없음ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Seventeen always being viral proved that even the non- fans can't deny the fact that They are truly talented and a have god-tier visuals. The looks is only plus points but if we all talked abt their talents, Gosh you're not ready in this conversation.
they are soo talented 💗💗💗
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Idk about being illogical but DK is such an innocent cute human. Protect him at all costs :')
Illogical = imaginative. The opposite of imaginative is usually called a realist. Dk being illogical just means that he likes to think out of the box (which can get out of hand if he cant find the limit xD) and that’s how we tend to get ridiculously funny ideas from him in gose contents. None of the traits are bad, they are just descriptions :)
@@farry6779 I'm sorry if it came off rude . In no manner do I mean to say that he's dumb or it's a bad trait. I myself am a very imaginative person who is always in their own bubble ,usually holding a different perspective than the general public/people around me. So I just mean that this trait of his makes him innocent and adorable. I apologize if my comment offended anyone:)
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So harmless and innocent 😇😁😆!
@@lawnjeon3280 nooo i wasnt offended at all! i got worried because a lot of people commented about dk being illogical (they think its a bad thing) so i thought i would just explain to few comments and get the message across. wouldnt want carats hating on gose staff nor the specialist :( ;D
I can fully relate to Mingyu's characteristic as he has been betrayed the most in gose, yet he doesn't hold any grudges and does his best in next episode too. I've always wondered if he is just pretending to move on easily, but seems like he is just made that way.
DK being sad about his test but he should know that he has one of the best personalities in the group. He makes every episode of Gose fun and he spices things up. I don't think he's at a disadvantage here.
"No one in this group has a high sense of responsibility"
Caption: They are meant to be together
LOL AFTER ALL THE YEARS OF WORKING TOGETHER EDITOR TEAM KNOWS TO BE SAVAGE
I love the editor 😂
They have enough responsibility to make themself personally good to stay in the industry, and not less that would make them ruin the group xD gose editors aren’t lying in the caption hshshs
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gose editors are absolutely hilarious I love them !!
Lol Minghao said he isn't among the low anxiety people when Jeonghan guessed it could be him but the expert said he is! This is such an interesting content, they really are getting to know themselves and how the other members might know them better in some ways
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After the doctor and seungkwan said jeonghan immediately look at Dino's paper and after he read it he look at dino and it's shows how he really care about the members especially to his baby dino❤️
디노 많이 힘들었을 것 같은게 기질이랑 성격이 아예 정반대가 되려면 사람이 뭘 겪었을지 고민해보게 됨
Why do i feel like when it's dino's turn.. They look so worried and serious.. Especially when the doc mention about depression...🥺 Fighting uri maknae ❤❤
It made me think of the time fans rejected him ….. I can’t imagine how hurt he must have felt 😢😭
exactly. The mood suddenly changed into serious atmosphere.
@@cassieh8084 what happened?
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@@leader-mq8ws watch his danceologys, supporting is the thing.
lmao DK getting Illogical as his result then GoSe editors putting "Logical Conclusion" in the subtitles had me wheezing. GoSe editors are really the funniest.
Mingyu's character: Understanding and accepting.
Yeah legit, that's what i noticed thru watching Going Seventeen.
Our selfless handsome boy Mingyu.
버노니가 가장 행복하다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 행복한 표정 진짜 짱이야 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 교수님이 오시면 처음부터 보실 수 있다잉ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Let's appreciate Scoups for being extra clingy to Jun since he's been quiet the whole ep + Hoshi persuading Jun to "scold" Seungkwan back like he did last ep 🥹
where was coups being clingy to him?? i didn’t see it at all
Could you please put a timestamp?
@@komalgill2557 for example at 26:00
@@komalgill2557 starting from 26:00 and you can also notice it from the prev ep
I just want to share this but I'm actually surprised that jun is an extrovert according to the doctor
To be so vulnerable in front of the entire world, where you know you can't control who's watching you, hats off. Even for idols who are constantly being filmed, they have to choose which side to show to the world. But for your personalities to come out to the world like this where you have absolutely no control over the situation is just so commendable.
I also feel like Carats have a big role to play in this. To be a fandom where the boys can truly express themselves to this extent is just very commendable ✨
Awww 🥺🥺🥺
yes you've got the point. in this episode, they actually became the clients. it's not easy for them
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I feel the same way. This is such a genuine community. I love the vibes here.🥰
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I am so shocked that Wonwoo and Dino had a similar temperament. I have come to realize in this episode why I like them both. At first, Wonwoo caught my attention very well even before GoSe existed. As I watched GoSe since episode 1, I gradually became interested in Dino too. Maybe, I love their gazes and their silent but mysterious smiles. Like a moth enchanted by a flame, I've been curious about these two and among the 13 members, I sometimes spent some hours watching Wonwoo and Dino's solo fancams or clips. Whenever I see them, it makes me smile and feel at peace.
I am an EXO-L, by the way, and my bias is D.O. Maybe I prefer a mysterious guy with a strong gaze and a fierce face? Coz the moment they smile and laugh, it makes my heart flutter.
really we are same , actually i like all of them , but more to dino and wonwoo
@@royalT-ara aw. I'm so happy that I'm not the only one who feels these emotions too.
OMG we are the same. My ultimate bias is D.O and my bias in svt are Dino and Wonwoo. I also like the mysterious type of person that they are. And Dino being a ball of sunshine but sometimes gets quiet also. I though I was the only one into those kind of men lol. Also the way they have their own sense of humor makes me love them more.
please DINO is so precious. let's take good care of him. he deserves to be loved by all. love you, uri maknae!!~
저렇게 많은 유형의 성격인 사람들이 모여서 오래 같이 있기도 힘들텐데 시간이 지나면서 서로에 대해 이해하고 존중하면서 성장했을 걸 생각하니까 괜히 뭉클해진다
아니ㅋㅋㅋㅋ댓글보고 너무 따뜻했는데 닉네임 보고 놀랐어요 닉네임은 차갑지만 댓글은 따뜻하신분ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@nnaacc217 겉바속촉
@@nnaacc217 쿱스가 했던 말이 너무 인상 깊어서 닉넴으로 했던 건데ㅋㅋㅋ 닉 보고 놀라실줄은 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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전 편에서도 느꼈지만 디노가 진짜 대단한거라니까? 형 12명 쉽지않아 ㅋㅋㅋ아무리 좋은 사람이라도 형 열둘 후..이 어려운걸 디노는 다 받아주잖아ㅋㅋ
what I love about this episode is that even when sometimes people find Jonghan cold and selfish (because of the GoSe image) u can see that EVERYONE on SVT knows that Jeonghan is the person that care about the 13 of them the most.
The gose image really on point, casual watcher mybe didn't notice it but like wht u said everyone even their staff admit it
Please send love to our angel devil, Jeonghan ❤️
to scoups : you're the one and only leader that svt need ! you're the best leader ever. you care for your members, always keep on eye for them, love your members, never trying to be dominant or taking most of the spotlight, but lets the others shine, that's the most important value to be the leader. no matter what, you're the best leader :)
to dino : lee chan, you're the best maknae ! you always held back with your 12 hyung, that's not easy, but you did well. you're precious, you're more than enough, you're the energy in this group, lee chan your laugh is life safer, so you have to be happy :)
to dk : dk, you're too pure hearted. you're kind, never think bad of others, you're just too kind in this manipulative world. I would love to have someone like u around me to keep me sane. The point is, illogical is not a bad thing, that's just kindness of you :)
Dokyeom's illogical side is actually an advantage because of it he's so creative. One of the examples is his vocals, he tends to achieve more than he has tho his vocals are already the best. To summarise he works hard to bring his imaginations true which is a very good aspect
I was just looking for this comment,lik thats exactly wa i thot, i don believe being illogical means he doesnt think logic jus that he doesnt think lik most people, and that cud be his biggest weapon coz no one can tell what he ll do next
@@mariyamsayed6094 glad that someone agrees ^^
Definitely! It's what allows him to be the free, fun, silly, innocent, endearing, hilarious person we all love! He has this strength in a way that others don't and he should be proud of that!
I hope DK knows that his innocence, pure-heartedness, and romantic nature are part of his charming personality and it has nothing to do with being illogical.
He just leads with his heart before his head.
i am crying at Dino part. he is such a great maknae but deep inside there is something he want to express to his hyung but he can't.
doctor: mingyu tries to keep the harmony between him and others
mingyu, two seconds later: I WILL SPEAK MY TRUTH I HAD TO PRETEND TO SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU