AWW HECK YES! PIZZA BOX PACKARD BELLS! System 2 - Sticky dust like that could have been someone smoking in proximity to it. How little there is would make me think it wasn't the owner, and it was only subjected to it a few times. I've also seen Packard Bell optical drives do exactly what you described... we called them "possessed". System 3 - The reason for the label over the PCI slot is because of that break out board. It would conflict with any card in the slot. Actually, the label was Packard Bell being a little forward thinking and masking the slot off so that end users were less likely to throw a fit because they couldn't fit a card there.
Ace Mc Crank, Rebel Assault II, true, the CD-ROM install. I'm still able to run on 14th gen RTX 4080 now, just did the Snow speeder mission, AT-AT, the robe ! It needs the CD-Rom on ATA, and it runs fine as it is as in 1995 !
Looks like Mike turned into the retro computer King Pin. Your videos are so easy to watch. When I first found your channel I binged watched everything in a couple days. Great content!
The Multimedia Desktop seems to be overclocked somehow. I saw a Pentium 100 built in, and it posts with 120Mhz. Also on the Heatsink there is written 120Mhz.... decent 20% OC from factory? hehehe. Anyways, nice video again! Cheers!
The Platinum 2240 is my Workhorse for Low Level formatting and Formatting of Drives , I got into Packard Bells via Billy Core in the mid 2000's and Now have about 16 Machines , Extra OEM Cards and Operating Systems and even a Nice MS Bob environment that I Like . These Computers become easy to Maintain after getting a Lot of Original Systems . These are Now becoming Highly Valued in the Vintage Computer Collectors Circles in the United States Midwest Markets . Just Love collecting These , Liked and Shared , Thank You :) QC
My brother has special needs and I had to set him up a whole Windows 3.1 in Dosbox with just Living Books on it, because he wanted to play them. This middle PC bringing back some memories.
I miss this design! My dad had the Platinum I with Windows 95 and a 1.2 GB hard drive. I miss it because his modem would connect at 28k with Prodigy Internet. It would dial through the computer speakers on the monitor because the sound card and the modem were on the same card. Watching this video makes me want to find another one of these machines. I remember going to Cartoon Network and watching videos because the computer had the full 1 MB of video memory.
I was given my in-laws' old PB desktop when they got divorced 15+ years ago. It was a 100MHz Pentium but I maxed out the system RAM, VRAM, and swapped in a 200 MHz Pentium Overdrive, back when such things were still readily available on eBay. It was my Linux-based home lab/NAS back before they were buzzwords. It's stored out in the garage now, but it should still run with just a hard drive and a new CMOS battery.
This was the first computer that I played Descent and connected to the internet with. I used to love how it would dial through the speakers when connecting.
Knights and Merchants was really fun. It has a complex economy where you had to manage aspects like blacksmiths and bakers and ensure that you have your supply and demand balanced
Congrats'....Still fine with my own FIRST self build from Sep '97. But only a K6 200MHz. 3.2GB Quantum Fireball and 32MB EDO RAM(Was BLOODY $£€ around then = 32MB)
Your taking me back man. I had a Packard hell, running win 3.11 waiting for the amazing win 95 release. I think i was 14 and it was 1994. My dad then got me a sears display unit. A packard hell with a 266mhz cpu, and an internal 2400 baud dialup modem. Within a year i had an external 14,400 dialup modem. The world was full of BBS (bulletin boards) i could dial into and download games/apps / pics that a teenage boy really wanted. It used to take 6-8 minutes to see 1 picture. Want a song? Let it run for a good hour to download that 1 track. Movie CLIPs took overnight. There were dozens of internet providers offering free service. Aol was giving away free hours and with an addon app aohell i could take over aol chat rooms, reset accounts for free hours and more Thay first 50mhz computer started my love of computers and programing Thanks for the great videos
That Desktop you have there reminds me of my old PB Desktop Except mine was only a 4x CD Rom and came by detault with a Pentium 75 and Win 3.11 But in the end we upgraded it to a P100 and upgraded to 24MB Ram. I miss her, My second ever desktop computer I had after a Tandy 1000SX
I remember selling that Currys in the UK when I was a 'Saturday Lad' helping out the sales staff! Those PCs were the first ones I saw with the new USB connection that had just started to come out! USB ports started appearing before USB products arrived on the shelf as if it was the other way around there would be USB scanners/printers etc. with no ports to connect to on computers.
Man you’re lucky, ive been hunting for one of those packard bell towers for some time now, i grew up with one and have been searching recently for one to restore
42:56 - I'd recommend CRC Lectra Clean. It cuts through petrified thermal paste like a hot knife through butter. It even removes that horrible pink/yellow stuff that they used on Athlon/Durons in the early 2000s. Just be ABSOLUTELY SURE to keep it away from any case plastics or LCD monitors. It will instantly etch those and permanently discolor them. It's fine for the plastic parts on motherboards though.
I remember Elf Bowling! My first PC was a Packard Bell purchased from Best Buy in 1993. I upgraded a few years later to a model very similar (if not the very model) to the desktop in the video. Bought at, of all places, Montgomery Ward. Everyplace sold PCs in the 90s…
"Just me and my mom" unlocked a core memory. We had the CD-ROM of "Just Grandma and Me" on my primary school's 386 in the library select kids got to play on (though I remember some serious Lord of the Flies dynamics for some reason). I remember it being a caddy drive because one of the teachers removed the CD from the caddy and shoved it into the drive. Got to see the inside of a computer for the first time. I would've been 6 I think, 1993.
We had one of those 2240's. Was the floor model at a retail chain, so we got it nearly half off msrp. Was surprised to see USB also, as many of the other models did not have any USB at all.
I've never actually touched a Packard Bell system! I remember Kid Pix Studios on our primary school computers & I do recall playing that Elf Bowling game many years back! The PSU's work decent but all the CD drives needed some love! I always like when you directly check the deadness of the CR2032s.
50:25 The Cyrix Instead motto was a thing, actually! Do an image search and you will find badges with it, and a boxed CPU upgrade for 386 systems that has it printed on the package.
Newer versions Windows 9x will display that too in the system properties. AMD was "AuthenticAMD" and Intel was "GenuineIntel". Older Windows versions will just think it's a 486
Omg I remember these systems. I used to play elf bowl among other Christmas games at the time. There was a Santa Sleigh puzzle game I played too. I remember seeing a lot of Packard Bell systems in the community center on 8th and Snyder. So nice to see the older systems brings back many memories of the time. Your videos of vintage systems bring back so many memories of the time. I remember working on a Packard Bell system when I worked with an Autistic child who would only learn letters and numbers if I connected then with red cars. I can’t for the life of me remember how I found that program but the teacher was happy I did. Thank you for the weekly trip down memory lane. Also I enjoy watching you tear into all the vintage systems every week. Thank you! I love this channel!!
The DB15 port for Ethernet will require an AUI transceiver. It's a bit awkward to have a little box hanging off the back but you can usually get them with a few different media options like twisted pair, coax or even fibre.
The second computer I ever had was a Packard Bell tower like these. I actually still have it sitting in my garage now! I kept hoping a copy of Packard Bell Navigator would show up on one of these machines; it was one of the worst ideas, but I loved it as a kid.
Those Packard Bell towers are the more normal ones. They also made some that didn't have the mainboard flat in the bottom. It was on the side like a normal tower, but they used a short bus riser with the expansion slots facing the bottom of the case so the cards plugged in upside down. There are reasons they got called "Packaged Hell" or "Puckered Smell". I was amazed at how they could be so low cost with all the custom engineered, proprietary parts.
Man...I remember these. They were so cursed. I could swear there was one they built out of SPITE, not computer parts. Cyrix CPU, S3 on-board video, reveal audio-modem card...it's like they chose the worst possible parts they could.
Wow, not just one but *THREE* Packard Bell computers that still work! That's like finding a Jaguar that doesn't leak oil. At a multimedia software company I worked at, when we got our first Beta copy of MSWindows 95, we installed it on our PB. That machine never worked right ever again, even after doing a reload of the OS from the factory restore CD (yes, manufacturers used to provide you with actual reinstall media).
In laptop service i saw that they using Turpentine for cleaning Thermalpaste form CPU. Im using it as well ever since and it works better then any thing else i tried so far.
So in my experience, that "skuzz" that was on the motherboard could most likely be basic cleaning spray that got sucked into the system while it was on. I cant tell you how many times I would see janitors back in the day just spray desks and the computers with aerosol solvent cleaner.
Those Pentium era Packard Bell machines seem to be better than the earlier 286/386 era ones. I think Bull Group owned them by then along with what was left of Heath/Zenith Data systems as well.
I had a PackardBell 486DX2-66, and there was nothing it couldn't do. It's weird to see computers from that era not able to run anything because I swore it was basically SkyNet during it's time.
Those tall towers were the case we had for our computer in the 90s. I've still been on the lookout for one, but only half-heartedly because they are so goofy haha.
It has been a while since I had one of these! One of the first videos on my channel 11 years ago now was about a Legend 1540 Supreme, which had that same "motherboard at the bottom" case.
some of the last gen socket 7 pentium boards indeed had usb 1.1(I don't think was 2.0 but possibly on k6 boards; I had 2 or 3 of the P1 boards, QDI forget the models)..... ** if you do retro often, first time I'm watching a video on your channel, MG Chemicals(usually electronics repair) sells a toothpaste like tube of while thermal paste that almost certainly is a bit more economic and should serve the purpose; pretty much a lifetime supply:P
The first Wintel machine we had was a Packard Bell running at 75mhz... which was then overclocked to 100mhz, upgraded the Video RAM, swapped the soundcard/modem combo card for an SB16, and a USRobotics mode. The modem/soundcard was terrible in DOS... could never get both working. I eventually upgraded it enough to build my first custom PC, and never got a pre-built until that was the only way to get a 3080!
Greetings from Scotland. Another brilliant video Mike! I absolutely love your content! Especially enjoyed the strip down and repair of the final machine with the Cyrix processor - I always find weird Packard Bell's like this intriguing! Looking at both the UKT Support page and The Retro Web, that final machine uses Packard Bell's PB810 motherboard which I believe was amongst their last LPX style boards - they were already using ATX boards (both socket 7 and Slot 1) in various other machines that used their newer 'Milano' type case by the time this machine would have launched (approx mid 98). I suspect that last machine was very much a "how can we make a cheap budget PC with items from our old part's bin" special. That motherboard can only support a 66MHz FSB with a multiplier of 3, therefore 200MHz max. That will be the reason for using the Cyrix MII-266 which of course only runs at 200MHz (but 'claims' the performance of a 266MHz) - basically a very cheap way to squeeze extra life out of an old Socket 7 board. As for the 'reserved' PCI expansion slot, I suspect the reason for that is because the motherboard has integrated sound, but has to use that break out unit for the audio ports i.e. you always need to ensure you leave a space on the back for that break out unit. There are a couple of these machines on ebay, and I've noticed that the audio port breakout unit was in the middle slot which would align with that reserved expansion slot. As for one of the USB ports being deliberately hidden, that it just plain weird!
Hey, I remember Elf Bowling! We had fun with that one twentysomething years ago. Found out later it was an early spyware trojan. My first computer was a Packard-Bell, a 486 SX-25. Yep, 25 whopping megahertz and no math co-processor. 🙂
At least that last one didn't much rust on it. I saw on someone's channel, he found a PC in ewaste with several rust spots on it. It was not a Packard Bell
Speaking of unlocking new tricks, I had good results reviving cd belts with a dab of "belt conditioner". It is a pretty cheap automotive product that seems to revive the belt's traction prowess. Keep on the great work!
Outstanding job voiding warrantees this week. I had a few of the Packard Bells. I always thought they looked like mobile home skirting with the added plastic at the bottom. They definitely made them not to easily get into. I broke a few plastic tabs on mine. I don't know what the added benefit was to surround a metal box with plastic. Thankfully OEMs got away from that bad habit.
Your channel is awesome 👌. Every time I watch, I just think back to my first ever PC. It was a dx2/66, 8 Meg of ram, 147meg hdd, scsi single speed cd rom and some kind of cirrus logic gpu. I used to play doom and mech warrior 2 a lot 😄😄. Came with Windows 3.1, but I killed it when I tried to put win 95 on it 😄
WoW :D we had the same Seagate Medalist and a 120MHz P1 in our first family PC. btw awesome recording of the HDD sound :) [straight out of my childhood]
I have never had a lite-on cd drive break on me, and i still have some direct drive DVD/rw as spares. I'm not suprised that last drive worked perfectly except for the belt.
22:34 I can't remember the last time I heard someone use the word scuz lol... we used to call getting your head shaved a scuz cut back in the late 80's.
DOS 6.2 and Win 3.11, if I recall. I remember when Windows 95 came out shortly after, there were complaints that it required a lot of double clicking. And the first version was thought to crash a lot. Eventually it become popular :)
Since the first two machines appear to have original HDs, you can try running Packard Bell System Credentials to pull the manufacture date and original system configuration. The data is actually stored on a secret part of the HD, so it should survive a reformat. The covered USB port maybe due to controller bugs. The PIIX3 south bridge used with the 430VX chipset had a few errata where the USB 1.0 controllers were either non functional or partially functional.
before even getting to the part of removing the harddrive of the 2nd system. my money is that its a seagate medalist of 1ish gb capacity. have a few of those
Never had A Packard Bell. looks to be very well built. I`m told the were good as long as you didn`t try to change the original configuration . Thanks for the Video
I had a Cyrix MII - similar if not the same model as that last computer - in one of my builds. Speedsys did the exact same thing to me when I tried to run it on that machine. Worked fine with everything else I did with it though! I swapped in a K6-2 and tried speed-sys with that and it worked fine. Weird...
I used the MM unit from 1995 to 2002 ( couldnt afford anything else until after that) , it started out as a 166 mmx with 8 mb ram and a 3.3 gig hard drive on win 95, when I finished it had a 233 mmx with 8 gig HD , 64 meg of ram, it was a rock solid machine for me , I happened into the dispersal auction of a mom and pop computer store , bought a whole tray of 233 MMX OEM chips for around 25 bucks and the ram for ten bucks , it kept me going for years. eventually put a PCI Diamond 3d card I got second hand into it and ran all sorts of games on it , never understood why PB had such a bad rep, the machine ( short of a CMOS battery going flat after a few years) NEVER let me down, now I think the worst I ever had was brand new lenovo P4 machine , I think the caps let go on that about a year after I bought it , started building my own stuff after that , again , no problems
The sacrificial hard drives are the soundtrack to our weekends
AWW HECK YES! PIZZA BOX PACKARD BELLS!
System 2 - Sticky dust like that could have been someone smoking in proximity to it. How little there is would make me think it wasn't the owner, and it was only subjected to it a few times. I've also seen Packard Bell optical drives do exactly what you described... we called them "possessed".
System 3 - The reason for the label over the PCI slot is because of that break out board. It would conflict with any card in the slot. Actually, the label was Packard Bell being a little forward thinking and masking the slot off so that end users were less likely to throw a fit because they couldn't fit a card there.
Don't know if you knew it, but this month is #Packvember, so how appropriate to be looking at some Packard Bells!
I finally hit one of those hashtags. Completely by accident LOL.
Rebel2 was a folder for Star Wars: Rebel Assault II: The Hidden Empire. It was released in 1995.
Ace Mc Crank,
Rebel Assault II, true, the CD-ROM install.
I'm still able to run on 14th gen RTX 4080 now, just did the Snow speeder mission, AT-AT, the robe ! It needs the CD-Rom on ATA, and it runs fine as it is as in 1995 !
From a more civilized age. before the dark times, before the mouse
I was yelling that at my screen. I mean not word for word, but you know.
Packard Bell: We need to create a tower computer...
Engineer: Say no more ...😅
underrated comment 🤣
Looks like Mike turned into the retro computer King Pin. Your videos are so easy to watch. When I first found your channel I binged watched everything in a couple days. Great content!
Thanks!
19:00 wow that's too cool, you're the first one to see the innards in a few decades!
I'm cooking up some buffalo tenders and can't wait to watch this while I'm eating lunch!
Nice units. I have many of these, NOS also...😎
A final file date of 12/26 sounds like this machine was replaced by a new PC that was a xmas gift
The Multimedia Desktop seems to be overclocked somehow. I saw a Pentium 100 built in, and it posts with 120Mhz. Also on the Heatsink there is written 120Mhz.... decent 20% OC from factory? hehehe. Anyways, nice video again! Cheers!
The Platinum 2240 is my Workhorse for Low Level formatting and Formatting of Drives , I got into Packard Bells via Billy Core in the mid 2000's and Now have about 16 Machines , Extra OEM Cards and Operating Systems and even a Nice MS Bob environment that I Like . These Computers become easy to Maintain after getting a Lot of Original Systems . These are Now becoming Highly Valued in the Vintage Computer Collectors Circles in the United States Midwest Markets . Just Love collecting These , Liked and Shared , Thank You :) QC
My brother has special needs and I had to set him up a whole Windows 3.1 in Dosbox with just Living Books on it, because he wanted to play them. This middle PC bringing back some memories.
I miss this design! My dad had the Platinum I with Windows 95 and a 1.2 GB hard drive. I miss it because his modem would connect at 28k with Prodigy Internet. It would dial through the computer speakers on the monitor because the sound card and the modem were on the same card. Watching this video makes me want to find another one of these machines. I remember going to Cartoon Network and watching videos because the computer had the full 1 MB of video memory.
I was given my in-laws' old PB desktop when they got divorced 15+ years ago. It was a 100MHz Pentium but I maxed out the system RAM, VRAM, and swapped in a 200 MHz Pentium Overdrive, back when such things were still readily available on eBay. It was my Linux-based home lab/NAS back before they were buzzwords.
It's stored out in the garage now, but it should still run with just a hard drive and a new CMOS battery.
Cavedog was the game developer that created Total Annihilation. That computer had Total Annihilation: Kingdoms installed.
This was the first computer that I played Descent and connected to the internet with. I used to love how it would dial through the speakers when connecting.
Just picked up an old Synera off of marketplace today, can’t wait to get it open!
Knights and Merchants was really fun. It has a complex economy where you had to manage aspects like blacksmiths and bakers and ensure that you have your supply and demand balanced
12:33 Empire Earth! that takes me back. I had a power supply blew up after playing that game an entire afternoon
those towers were my first system for christmas '97 came with 233mhz, 4 gb hard drive and 32 mb ram. Monitor with speakers on the side came with it...
Congrats'....Still fine with my own FIRST self build from Sep '97. But only a K6 200MHz. 3.2GB Quantum Fireball and 32MB EDO RAM(Was BLOODY $£€ around then = 32MB)
Your taking me back man. I had a Packard hell, running win 3.11 waiting for the amazing win 95 release. I think i was 14 and it was 1994. My dad then got me a sears display unit. A packard hell with a 266mhz cpu, and an internal 2400 baud dialup modem. Within a year i had an external 14,400 dialup modem. The world was full of BBS (bulletin boards) i could dial into and download games/apps / pics that a teenage boy really wanted. It used to take 6-8 minutes to see 1 picture. Want a song? Let it run for a good hour to download that 1 track. Movie CLIPs took overnight. There were dozens of internet providers offering free service. Aol was giving away free hours and with an addon app aohell i could take over aol chat rooms, reset accounts for free hours and more
Thay first 50mhz computer started my love of computers and programing
Thanks for the great videos
Nostalgia plus ASMR in one!
That Desktop you have there reminds me of my old PB Desktop Except mine was only a 4x CD Rom and came by detault with a Pentium 75 and Win 3.11 But in the end we upgraded it to a P100 and upgraded to 24MB Ram.
I miss her, My second ever desktop computer I had after a Tandy 1000SX
Knights and Merchanys is a superb game, one of my favorites in win98 era
I remember selling that Currys in the UK when I was a 'Saturday Lad' helping out the sales staff! Those PCs were the first ones I saw with the new USB connection that had just started to come out! USB ports started appearing before USB products arrived on the shelf as if it was the other way around there would be USB scanners/printers etc. with no ports to connect to on computers.
Man you’re lucky, ive been hunting for one of those packard bell towers for some time now, i grew up with one and have been searching recently for one to restore
42:56 - I'd recommend CRC Lectra Clean. It cuts through petrified thermal paste like a hot knife through butter. It even removes that horrible pink/yellow stuff that they used on Athlon/Durons in the early 2000s.
Just be ABSOLUTELY SURE to keep it away from any case plastics or LCD monitors. It will instantly etch those and permanently discolor them. It's fine for the plastic parts on motherboards though.
Interesting. Never thought to use that for such purposes. Thanks!
I remember Elf Bowling! My first PC was a Packard Bell purchased from Best Buy in 1993. I upgraded a few years later to a model very similar (if not the very model) to the desktop in the video. Bought at, of all places, Montgomery Ward. Everyplace sold PCs in the 90s…
man i love you job, it takes me back to the happiest age of my life ♥
"Just me and my mom" unlocked a core memory. We had the CD-ROM of "Just Grandma and Me" on my primary school's 386 in the library select kids got to play on (though I remember some serious Lord of the Flies dynamics for some reason). I remember it being a caddy drive because one of the teachers removed the CD from the caddy and shoved it into the drive. Got to see the inside of a computer for the first time. I would've been 6 I think, 1993.
We had one of those 2240's. Was the floor model at a retail chain, so we got it nearly half off msrp. Was surprised to see USB also, as many of the other models did not have any USB at all.
My first PC was a CGA Packard bell 286 I got in 1985
Man i loved the last one, im at my happiest at night, with a good drink close to me, maintaining and cleaning an older computer
cavedog was total annihilation! one of the best rts games pre starcraft. this guy was a total gamer
I've never actually touched a Packard Bell system! I remember Kid Pix Studios on our primary school computers & I do recall playing that Elf Bowling game many years back! The PSU's work decent but all the CD drives needed some love! I always like when you directly check the deadness of the CR2032s.
The thumbnail photo made me chuckle :)
50:25 The Cyrix Instead motto was a thing, actually! Do an image search and you will find badges with it, and a boxed CPU upgrade for 386 systems that has it printed on the package.
Newer versions Windows 9x will display that too in the system properties. AMD was "AuthenticAMD" and Intel was "GenuineIntel". Older Windows versions will just think it's a 486
Omg I remember these systems. I used to play elf bowl among other Christmas games at the time. There was a Santa Sleigh puzzle game I played too. I remember seeing a lot of Packard Bell systems in the community center on 8th and Snyder. So nice to see the older systems brings back many memories of the time. Your videos of vintage systems bring back so many memories of the time. I remember working on a Packard Bell system when I worked with an Autistic child who would only learn letters and numbers if I connected then with red cars. I can’t for the life of me remember how I found that program but the teacher was happy I did. Thank you for the weekly trip down memory lane. Also I enjoy watching you tear into all the vintage systems every week. Thank you! I love this channel!!
The DB15 port for Ethernet will require an AUI transceiver. It's a bit awkward to have a little box hanging off the back but you can usually get them with a few different media options like twisted pair, coax or even fibre.
The second computer I ever had was a Packard Bell tower like these. I actually still have it sitting in my garage now! I kept hoping a copy of Packard Bell Navigator would show up on one of these machines; it was one of the worst ideas, but I loved it as a kid.
Those Packard Bell towers are the more normal ones. They also made some that didn't have the mainboard flat in the bottom. It was on the side like a normal tower, but they used a short bus riser with the expansion slots facing the bottom of the case so the cards plugged in upside down. There are reasons they got called "Packaged Hell" or "Puckered Smell".
I was amazed at how they could be so low cost with all the custom engineered, proprietary parts.
Man...I remember these. They were so cursed. I could swear there was one they built out of SPITE, not computer parts. Cyrix CPU, S3 on-board video, reveal audio-modem card...it's like they chose the worst possible parts they could.
Wow, not just one but *THREE* Packard Bell computers that still work! That's like finding a Jaguar that doesn't leak oil.
At a multimedia software company I worked at, when we got our first Beta copy of MSWindows 95, we installed it on our PB. That machine never worked right ever again, even after doing a reload of the OS from the factory restore CD (yes, manufacturers used to provide you with actual reinstall media).
really enjoy your videos
i had a Platinum Supreme 1850 in Christmas of 1997
Fantastic thumbnail !
Don’t forget that it’s Packvember. (As Billy Coore says that on Nostalgia Mall Channel)
OMG that Elf bowling ... core memory unlocked
In laptop service i saw that they using Turpentine for cleaning Thermalpaste form CPU. Im using it as well ever since and it works better then any thing else i tried so far.
“Just Me And My Mom” was an entry from the “Living Books” series for early childhood, I think. I remember having it and looking at it maybe once.
So in my experience, that "skuzz" that was on the motherboard could most likely be basic cleaning spray that got sucked into the system while it was on. I cant tell you how many times I would see janitors back in the day just spray desks and the computers with aerosol solvent cleaner.
another great video as always !
I love these videos!!!
Man, this stuff is so therapeutic. 🧡
CPUID info... Intel is "GenuineIntel", AMD is "AuthenticAMD", Cyrix is "CyrixInstead", IDT Winchip is "CentaurHauls", and UMC is "UMC UMC UMC" -
In this thumbnail, you look like Jack O'Neill in the Ancient control chair 😅
Those Pentium era Packard Bell machines seem to be better than the earlier 286/386 era ones. I think Bull Group owned them by then along with what was left of Heath/Zenith Data systems as well.
I had a PackardBell 486DX2-66, and there was nothing it couldn't do. It's weird to see computers from that era not able to run anything because I swore it was basically SkyNet during it's time.
i had the Packard Bell legend in the middle and ive never been able to find another unless it was online! amazing first computer for me.
Great video
Those look awesome
For melting any dry thermal paste ( or nicotine and most dry tape glue ) use lighter oil then wipe and finally clean with IPA.
Those tall towers were the case we had for our computer in the 90s. I've still been on the lookout for one, but only half-heartedly because they are so goofy haha.
Needed to keep one, Pentium 4 HT, still runs Windows 10, GTX 1070 makes it run all modern titles in 1080p
It has been a while since I had one of these! One of the first videos on my channel 11 years ago now was about a Legend 1540 Supreme, which had that same "motherboard at the bottom" case.
some of the last gen socket 7 pentium boards indeed had usb 1.1(I don't think was 2.0 but possibly on k6 boards; I had 2 or 3 of the P1 boards, QDI forget the models)..... ** if you do retro often, first time I'm watching a video on your channel, MG Chemicals(usually electronics repair) sells a toothpaste like tube of while thermal paste that almost certainly is a bit more economic and should serve the purpose; pretty much a lifetime supply:P
Pozdrawiam z Polski 🤝👍👋
I loved Packard Bell systems, I used to have one of their desktops ages ago, It might still be hanging around somewhere
Last used the day after Christmas in 2002. They got a new system for Christmas and retired this one.
The first Wintel machine we had was a Packard Bell running at 75mhz... which was then overclocked to 100mhz, upgraded the Video RAM, swapped the soundcard/modem combo card for an SB16, and a USRobotics mode. The modem/soundcard was terrible in DOS... could never get both working.
I eventually upgraded it enough to build my first custom PC, and never got a pre-built until that was the only way to get a 3080!
the garden hose never fails...
Greetings from Scotland. Another brilliant video Mike! I absolutely love your content! Especially enjoyed the strip down and repair of the final machine with the Cyrix processor - I always find weird Packard Bell's like this intriguing! Looking at both the UKT Support page and The Retro Web, that final machine uses Packard Bell's PB810 motherboard which I believe was amongst their last LPX style boards - they were already using ATX boards (both socket 7 and Slot 1) in various other machines that used their newer 'Milano' type case by the time this machine would have launched (approx mid 98). I suspect that last machine was very much a "how can we make a cheap budget PC with items from our old part's bin" special. That motherboard can only support a 66MHz FSB with a multiplier of 3, therefore 200MHz max. That will be the reason for using the Cyrix MII-266 which of course only runs at 200MHz (but 'claims' the performance of a 266MHz) - basically a very cheap way to squeeze extra life out of an old Socket 7 board. As for the 'reserved' PCI expansion slot, I suspect the reason for that is because the motherboard has integrated sound, but has to use that break out unit for the audio ports i.e. you always need to ensure you leave a space on the back for that break out unit. There are a couple of these machines on ebay, and I've noticed that the audio port breakout unit was in the middle slot which would align with that reserved expansion slot. As for one of the USB ports being deliberately hidden, that it just plain weird!
I really liked PB design back then
i dont like old pc i a amiga user but still likes you wideo man :D
Hey, I remember Elf Bowling! We had fun with that one twentysomething years ago. Found out later it was an early spyware trojan. My first computer was a Packard-Bell, a 486 SX-25. Yep, 25 whopping megahertz and no math co-processor. 🙂
Ahh yes the packard hells, funny thing is the name still lives on in other parts of the world.
At least that last one didn't much rust on it. I saw on someone's channel, he found a PC in ewaste with several rust spots on it. It was not a Packard Bell
Just Me and My Mom was a book by Mercer Mayer. I read those when I was in grade school. You have the interactive story game from 1999 with no CD :(
Speaking of unlocking new tricks, I had good results reviving cd belts with a dab of "belt conditioner". It is a pretty cheap automotive product that seems to revive the belt's traction prowess. Keep on the great work!
Outstanding job voiding warrantees this week. I had a few of the Packard Bells. I always thought they looked like mobile home skirting with the added plastic at the bottom. They definitely made them not to easily get into. I broke a few plastic tabs on mine. I don't know what the added benefit was to surround a metal box with plastic. Thankfully OEMs got away from that bad habit.
PS, I just downloaded Elf Bowling. Thanks Mike.
It wasn’t until I was editing that the memories of Elf Bowling came flooding back. My mom played it a lot.
Your channel is awesome 👌. Every time I watch, I just think back to my first ever PC. It was a dx2/66, 8 Meg of ram, 147meg hdd, scsi single speed cd rom and some kind of cirrus logic gpu. I used to play doom and mech warrior 2 a lot 😄😄. Came with Windows 3.1, but I killed it when I tried to put win 95 on it 😄
Cyrix instead of Intel and AMD was the idea :) I had an IBM 686MX 233 in 1998
WoW :D
we had the same Seagate Medalist and a 120MHz P1 in our first family PC.
btw awesome recording of the HDD sound :) [straight out of my childhood]
I have never had a lite-on cd drive break on me, and i still have some direct drive DVD/rw as spares. I'm not suprised that last drive worked perfectly except for the belt.
My family once owned a Packard Bell Platinum 2240 except had Windows 95 on it
22:34 I can't remember the last time I heard someone use the word scuz lol... we used to call getting your head shaved a scuz cut back in the late 80's.
Always use a tower with a flared base for safety
Yeah, it's an awkward trip to the PC doctor when things go wrong.
My fist PC was a Packard Bell 75 MHZ Pentium desktop :)
If I recall, 8 MB RAM, 1.2 GB HDD.
DOS 6.2 and Win 3.11, if I recall. I remember when Windows 95 came out shortly after, there were complaints that it required a lot of double clicking. And the first version was thought to crash a lot. Eventually it become popular :)
Remember Putt Putt Saves the Zoo and Doom ? Good times, lol.
Since the first two machines appear to have original HDs, you can try running Packard Bell System Credentials to pull the manufacture date and original system configuration. The data is actually stored on a secret part of the HD, so it should survive a reformat. The covered USB port maybe due to controller bugs. The PIIX3 south bridge used with the 430VX chipset had a few errata where the USB 1.0 controllers were either non functional or partially functional.
before even getting to the part of removing the harddrive of the 2nd system. my money is that its a seagate medalist of 1ish gb capacity. have a few of those
used plenty of packard bells computers. while cheap was the main goal they were pretty decent.
I had the desktop one in the middle with a p60 and 8 MB of RAM which was a big deal back then
Never had A Packard Bell. looks to be very well built. I`m told the were good as long as you didn`t try to change the original configuration . Thanks for the Video
Packard bell used 97-02 (5 years) "it lived a NICE long life", me looking across the room at my circa 2018-2020 built i7 8700 2060 super......
LOL! at 11:50 the AOL favorites shows MBrown4983's Favorite Places.....MBrown4983 has a TH-cam channel with only 1 video posted.
Awesome refurb also love the Knoppix part!
I had a Cyrix MII - similar if not the same model as that last computer - in one of my builds. Speedsys did the exact same thing to me when I tried to run it on that machine. Worked fine with everything else I did with it though! I swapped in a K6-2 and tried speed-sys with that and it worked fine. Weird...
Search in the net for err_msr fix for cyrix mll in speedsys.
Cryix instead was their slogan back in the day like Intel inside 😊
I used the MM unit from 1995 to 2002 ( couldnt afford anything else until after that) , it started out as a 166 mmx with 8 mb ram and a 3.3 gig hard drive on win 95, when I finished it had a 233 mmx with 8 gig HD , 64 meg of ram, it was a rock solid machine for me , I happened into the dispersal auction of a mom and pop computer store , bought a whole tray of 233 MMX OEM chips for around 25 bucks and the ram for ten bucks , it kept me going for years. eventually put a PCI Diamond 3d card I got second hand into it and ran all sorts of games on it , never understood why PB had such a bad rep, the machine ( short of a CMOS battery going flat after a few years) NEVER let me down, now I think the worst I ever had was brand new lenovo P4 machine , I think the caps let go on that about a year after I bought it , started building my own stuff after that , again , no problems
Surprisingly intact systems.🎉 I like the design very much.