I really appreciate hearing your honest opinion about what you like and don't like about the keyboard, Yonathan. It's especially helpful, because you've already demonstrated that you're a talented keyboard player. Thanks for taking the time to share the video!
@@MrYonathanGodjali- you said that you are dissatisfied with the plastic feel of the keys & you demonstrated that. Considering that the keys are all plastic, how can the keys not feel like plastic? If there is some way other manufacturers have found to make plastic keys not feel like plastic, please let me know. I've never heard of a way.
Hi from the USA. Just got the ES920 two weeks ago. Costs $1600 here plus tax of 7%. Plus $270 for the furniture grand stand. I'm just restarting piano after 30 years. The keys on the ES920 felt SO heavy at first! But in just two weeks, my fingers are not complaining that much. The sounds are awesome, drum rhythms are excellent. MIDI and Acoustic Bluetooth are standard here. Yes, the pedal is the best pedal I've seen. I smiled at the way you pronounced pedal pedaaal. :) Pedal sounds as in peddle. :) My keys are only half as noisy as what you demonstrated. As I said, for my untrained fingers, the keys are pretty heavy! See if you have the latest firmware: with the piano off, press down the piano 2, the organ, and the string buttons, *then* turn it on. The display will show the firmware. It should be v1.10 which is the latest. All said and done, I am very pleased! I prefer the EX ConcertGrand sound to the SK Concertgrand sound. And I love how you LAYER the sounds: combine two sounds into one. And save it as a registration for quick access. I combined the EX ConcertGrand and Warm Strings; nice combination sound! I'm learning a piece called "Hymne" by Vangelis, this combination is great for it. This is the piece: th-cam.com/video/zYPo3Vz0oCE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the firmware update info! I'm pretty sure mine is still on default stock, probably will update it later. For me the key is not heavy. But it's just a matter of habit and preference at the end of the day. Nice, I like my piano without string section. I guess I will keep using the SK Grand for now.
I have owned Kawai ES8, MP7, Yamaha P515, MX88, Korg Grandstage and played both older CP80 and CP88. I also have an acoustic piano. For action among these DP I would rate CP 80 and Grandstage as the better ones and still not perfect tho, Cp88 is slightly heavy and bright sounding overall, the worst action would be P515 I returned it right away with in one week. The best DP action I've ever played was Kawai CA 98 and above they're so delightful and nimble to play
Hi friend, please tell me about your disliked for P515 key action, why you said that P515 has the worst action of that bunch?. Give me details about it please.
@@ferdearmas8732 The P515 action is on the heavier side I know it’s probably subjective some ppl might like it but not for me and the heaviest part is in the middle of the keyboard which is weird. As for the sound, it’s is a bit muddy and sort of muffle compare to any piano sound out there. P 215 and 115 sounds and feel a lot better although not as dynamic as P515
@@andrewb2700 Thanks for reply my friend!, and did you feel any difference between CP88 and P515 key actions?, because many people says than these feels almost the same.
You asked about the Yamaha P515... the killer for me is that it has no way to save settings i.e. no user registration slots - NONE! I was really surprised by Yamaha's omission. So tweaking an instrument, or the piano room sounds or setting up a dual scenario with multiple instruments with no way to save the settings is an absolute deal breaker for me. That's why I'm considering the ES920 but I'm concerned about the key bed noise level and will have to try it for myself. UPDATE: I spoke with Yamaha and while it's true that the P515 has no on board user registrations, they directed me to their Smart Pianist App that allows access to all the features and DOES allow you to save settings. I plan to visit a store to check this out for myself.
Thanks for the info! Tbh I wouldn't mind if there's no registration slot. At the same time I could see it would be irreplaceable feature for those who often use the feature. Good luck! I often use the built in speaker at around 25% volume, so the keybed noise (like clicky plastic against my finger) is obvious. But as I said in the video, this is me being picky about it.
I mentioned, it might be possible to pack the plastic body with fiberglass or even Styrofoam packing peanuts to deaden the resonance of plastic body. Some type of foam or felt tape might help. I know the more expensive automobiles and even dishwashers have better sound deadening to make them operate more quietly. This is something Kawai should have thought about as this is supposed to be a premium portable piano. On a dishwasher, they just throw a thicker blanket over the top. The cheapest models may not have a blanket at all. So they are made deliberately to be noisy.
@@MrYonathanGodjali It's essential if you are serious about sound synthesis. You need to move away from the presets. It can take time to learn where to find the best settings.
@@JoeLinux2000 It is true. But digital pianos generally should just be for piano playing enjoyment. If sound synthesis is the focus - then we should be going for say korg, nord, kurzweil etc ---- with full on synthesiser features ---- dials, sliders and everything.
5:08 I went to a Kawai store and tried the CA99 and SK-EX acoustic grand... they are both pretty light for the key action... so after playing on the CA99 for 15 minutes, I thought, "how come it is so weak"... maybe I am just not used to it
Great review and playing in your videos. If you get a chance to play a Yamaha cp88, I would appreciate your opinion about the action and keys compared to the ES920’s. Thanks and I look forward to more videos.
@@MrYonathanGodjali Here is a interest review between Yamaha cp88 and mp11se. th-cam.com/video/qsUq9hoU0rg/w-d-xo.html. I am also interested in your opinion regarding these two models plus Yamaha p515 too!
@@MrYonathanGodjali according to the video recommended by the other commenter, the co88 has a stiff action, which I would not like. So, don’t go out of your way on my behalf. Look forward to listening to you play more. Thanks
As for the key noise it's very much like my Casio P-150. I'm disappointed about that. I'm wondering of some sound deadening material could be added to the inside. It sounds to me like the plastic case is acting somewhat like a guitar body.
Can you store modified piano patches. I know the EQ probably can't be stored but what about the other settings? Can you play some songs or compositions where you have used the strings or choir underneath the piano as a pad? Also if you have a virtual piano or synth on your computer can you patch the audio output of the computer instrument into the internal speakers of the es920?
I bought kawai es110 and everything ok but i went to piano classes the teacher has acoustic piano, went come back my home my piano felt like a toy, i am thinking buy p515 or es929 what recomend you? I can not have acoustic piano and digital with cabinet. Thanks for ask
I have not played p515. But if your reference is your teacher's acoustic piano, my guess the Kawai ES920 keybed will be too light for you. If you can, try the p515 for Yamaha. If you want to go Kawai, the MP11se may be more suitable for your need.
How happy are you with the Action? You say it feels cheap and like plastic? Is it too light? Does it feel close to a piano? or do you feel like you are playing a plastic toy??
I'm quite happy. I wish the key would be slightly harder. Definitely not a plastic toy. Not close enough to acoustic piano I guess. Based on internet research, you should choose the MP11se if you want it to be as close to an acoustic piano and you want to go the Kawai route.
@@MrYonathanGodjali The P-515 keys definitely don't feel plastic - that's just to answer the question. The P-515 has wooden keys - and they're really well made. Very responsive too. But having said that ---- I don't think I would mind the ES920 keys. But I can see what you mean from your demonstration. I like your video too ---- you're honest and down to earth. And that is really great.
@@MrYonathanGodjali kak, bagusan Yamaha P-515 atau Kawai ES920? Waktu itu nanya ThePianoForever bagusan Yamaha P-515 atau Kawai ES920 untuk beginner, dia bilang "Yamaha P-515". Kakak udh nyoba Yamaha P-515?
@@MrYonathanGodjali gw tadi nyoba P515 di sebuah toko. Gw juga nyoba piano akustik yg ada disitu. Action P515nya berat, kayaknya actionnya lebih berat daripada action piano akustik yg ada di tokonya
Regarding electric pianos, I think the ES920's EPs sound pretty good in this video: th-cam.com/video/4TjMvk1N6ks/w-d-xo.html When you say they are not usable, what are you comparing them too?
Unusable as in I don't have a great time playing it (the character) so I will not use it much. For last year I've been playing my friend's RD700NX and I prefer the EP on that one
@@MrYonathanGodjali I think you need to learn how to tailor the sounds of the es920 if it is possible from the keyboard itself. I think I heard the Kawai Piano Technician only works on iOS.
I am majorly disappointed with the noisy key action. It sounds like each and every key stroke is followed by a mini drum roll. I can even hear it when using headphones. The only time I don't hear is when playing at full volume. This would otherwise be my favourite ever digital piano but because of the noisy action it falls way short, especially so when playing pianissimo.
Thank you, guy. It's not DP, it's fucking noisy expensive shit! Yamaha p515 has worse keybed and sounds. Look at RD-2000(21.7kg)/FP-90X(23kg) from Roland. They have PHA-50 is the most silent on market but sounds are specific and modelled by Roland's algorithm, matter of taste
Tried RD2000 twice I think. Solid option but it's on different price bracket with the ES920. Probably should compare to the Kawai MP7, Kronos, or Montage
I really appreciate hearing your honest opinion about what you like and don't like about the keyboard, Yonathan. It's especially helpful, because you've already demonstrated that you're a talented keyboard player. Thanks for taking the time to share the video!
You're welcome! I'll keep it this way!
@@MrYonathanGodjali- you said that you are dissatisfied with the plastic feel of the keys & you demonstrated that. Considering that the keys are all plastic, how can the keys not feel like plastic? If there is some way other manufacturers have found to make plastic keys not feel like plastic, please let me know. I've never heard of a way.
Hi from the USA. Just got the ES920 two weeks ago. Costs $1600 here plus tax of 7%. Plus $270 for the furniture grand stand. I'm just restarting piano after 30 years. The keys on the ES920 felt SO heavy at first! But in just two weeks, my fingers are not complaining that much. The sounds are awesome, drum rhythms are excellent. MIDI and Acoustic Bluetooth are standard here. Yes, the pedal is the best pedal I've seen. I smiled at the way you pronounced pedal pedaaal. :) Pedal sounds as in peddle. :) My keys are only half as noisy as what you demonstrated. As I said, for my untrained fingers, the keys are pretty heavy!
See if you have the latest firmware: with the piano off, press down the piano 2, the organ, and the string buttons, *then* turn it on. The display will show the firmware. It should be v1.10 which is the latest. All said and done, I am very pleased! I prefer the EX ConcertGrand sound to the SK Concertgrand sound. And I love how you LAYER the sounds: combine two sounds into one. And save it as a registration for quick access. I combined the EX ConcertGrand and Warm Strings; nice combination sound! I'm learning a piece called "Hymne" by Vangelis, this combination is great for it. This is the piece: th-cam.com/video/zYPo3Vz0oCE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the firmware update info! I'm pretty sure mine is still on default stock, probably will update it later.
For me the key is not heavy. But it's just a matter of habit and preference at the end of the day.
Nice, I like my piano without string section. I guess I will keep using the SK Grand for now.
I have owned Kawai ES8, MP7, Yamaha P515, MX88, Korg Grandstage and played both older CP80 and CP88. I also have an acoustic piano. For action among these DP I would rate CP 80 and Grandstage as the better ones and still not perfect tho, Cp88 is slightly heavy and bright sounding overall, the worst action would be P515 I returned it right away with in one week.
The best DP action I've ever played was Kawai CA 98 and above they're so delightful and nimble to play
Hi friend, please tell me about your disliked for P515 key action, why you said that P515 has the worst action of that bunch?. Give me details about it please.
@@ferdearmas8732
The P515 action is on the heavier side I know it’s probably subjective some ppl might like it but not for me and the heaviest part is in the middle of the keyboard which is weird. As for the sound, it’s is a bit muddy and sort of muffle compare to any piano sound out there. P 215 and 115 sounds and feel a lot better although not as dynamic as P515
@@andrewb2700 Thanks for reply my friend!, and did you feel any difference between CP88 and P515 key actions?, because many people says than these feels almost the same.
I had two Kawai ca98’s, both actions failed within weeks.
You asked about the Yamaha P515... the killer for me is that it has no way to save settings i.e. no user registration slots - NONE!
I was really surprised by Yamaha's omission. So tweaking an instrument, or the piano room sounds or setting up a dual scenario with multiple instruments with no way to save the settings is an absolute deal breaker for me. That's why I'm considering the ES920 but I'm concerned about the key bed noise level and will have to try it for myself.
UPDATE: I spoke with Yamaha and while it's true that the P515 has no on board user registrations, they directed me to their Smart Pianist App that allows access to all the features and DOES allow you to save settings. I plan to visit a store to check this out for myself.
Thanks for the info! Tbh I wouldn't mind if there's no registration slot. At the same time I could see it would be irreplaceable feature for those who often use the feature.
Good luck! I often use the built in speaker at around 25% volume, so the keybed noise (like clicky plastic against my finger) is obvious. But as I said in the video, this is me being picky about it.
I mentioned, it might be possible to pack the plastic body with fiberglass or even Styrofoam packing peanuts to deaden the resonance of plastic body. Some type of foam or felt tape might help. I know the more expensive automobiles and even dishwashers have better sound deadening to make them operate more quietly. This is something Kawai should have thought about as this is supposed to be a premium portable piano. On a dishwasher, they just throw a thicker blanket over the top. The cheapest models may not have a blanket at all. So they are made deliberately to be noisy.
@@MrYonathanGodjali It's essential if you are serious about sound synthesis. You need to move away from the presets. It can take time to learn where to find the best settings.
@@JoeLinux2000 It is true. But digital pianos generally should just be for piano playing enjoyment. If sound synthesis is the focus - then we should be going for say korg, nord, kurzweil etc ---- with full on synthesiser features ---- dials, sliders and everything.
5:08 I went to a Kawai store and tried the CA99 and SK-EX acoustic grand... they are both pretty light for the key action... so after playing on the CA99 for 15 minutes, I thought, "how come it is so weak"... maybe I am just not used to it
Great review and playing in your videos. If you get a chance to play a Yamaha cp88, I would appreciate your opinion about the action and keys compared to the ES920’s. Thanks and I look forward to more videos.
Alright I will look around and hopefully find someone who own a CP88. Thank you!!
@@MrYonathanGodjali Here is a interest review between Yamaha cp88 and mp11se. th-cam.com/video/qsUq9hoU0rg/w-d-xo.html. I am also interested in your opinion regarding these two models plus Yamaha p515 too!
@@MrYonathanGodjali according to the video recommended by the other commenter, the co88 has a stiff action, which I would not like. So, don’t go out of your way on my behalf. Look forward to listening to you play more. Thanks
@@nitrocar3075 Thanks!
I'll try! Don't hope much for it but if I manage to play CP88 or MP11SE, I'll give my impression!
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As for the key noise it's very much like my Casio P-150. I'm disappointed about that. I'm wondering of some sound deadening material could be added to the inside. It sounds to me like the plastic case is acting somewhat like a guitar body.
Can you store modified piano patches. I know the EQ probably can't be stored but what about the other settings? Can you play some songs or compositions where you have used the strings or choir underneath the piano as a pad? Also if you have a virtual piano or synth on your computer can you patch the audio output of the computer instrument into the internal speakers of the es920?
I bought kawai es110 and everything ok but i went to piano classes the teacher has acoustic piano, went come back my home my piano felt like a toy, i am thinking buy p515 or es929 what recomend you? I can not have acoustic piano and digital with cabinet. Thanks for ask
I have not played p515. But if your reference is your teacher's acoustic piano, my guess the Kawai ES920 keybed will be too light for you.
If you can, try the p515 for Yamaha. If you want to go Kawai, the MP11se may be more suitable for your need.
How happy are you with the Action? You say it feels cheap and like plastic? Is it too light? Does it feel close to a piano? or do you feel like you are playing a plastic toy??
I'm quite happy. I wish the key would be slightly harder.
Definitely not a plastic toy. Not close enough to acoustic piano I guess.
Based on internet research, you should choose the MP11se if you want it to be as close to an acoustic piano and you want to go the Kawai route.
@@MrYonathanGodjali The P-515 keys definitely don't feel plastic - that's just to answer the question. The P-515 has wooden keys - and they're really well made. Very responsive too. But having said that ---- I don't think I would mind the ES920 keys. But I can see what you mean from your demonstration. I like your video too ---- you're honest and down to earth. And that is really great.
@@southpark5555 Thank you for the info! I would definitely prefer wooden keys.
mas mau tanya ini kawai es920 nya sdh include bluetooth kah?
Ada 2 tipe, yg include bluetooth dan non bluetooth. Yang saya punya ini non bluetooth.
kak yonathan sudah pernah coba es8? apakah berbeda dengan es920?
Pernah coba ES8 tapi sejujurnya lupa kayak gimana
@@MrYonathanGodjali kak, bagusan Yamaha P-515 atau Kawai ES920? Waktu itu nanya ThePianoForever bagusan Yamaha P-515 atau Kawai ES920 untuk beginner, dia bilang "Yamaha P-515". Kakak udh nyoba Yamaha P-515?
@@ac-mb6gj Belum pernah coba P515. Memang 2 ini harga nya di range yg sama jadi banyak yg bandingin ya.
@@MrYonathanGodjali gw tadi nyoba P515 di sebuah toko. Gw juga nyoba piano akustik yg ada disitu. Action P515nya berat, kayaknya actionnya lebih berat daripada action piano akustik yg ada di tokonya
Regarding electric pianos, I think the ES920's EPs sound pretty good in this video:
th-cam.com/video/4TjMvk1N6ks/w-d-xo.html
When you say they are not usable, what are you comparing them too?
Unusable as in I don't have a great time playing it (the character) so I will not use it much.
For last year I've been playing my friend's RD700NX and I prefer the EP on that one
@@MrYonathanGodjali Okay, I see. It might be interesting to do a comparison video between the two.
@@MrYonathanGodjali I think you need to learn how to tailor the sounds of the es920 if it is possible from the keyboard itself. I think I heard the Kawai Piano Technician only works on iOS.
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@@MrYonathanGodjali does the plastic in front of the keys bend ? I hear the build quality is really cheap and plastic bends in areas
@@JitinMisra no bend as of now. Will keep a look out for that!
I am majorly disappointed with the noisy key action. It sounds like each and every key stroke is followed by a mini drum roll. I can even hear it when using headphones. The only time I don't hear is when playing at full volume. This would otherwise be my favourite ever digital piano but because of the noisy action it falls way short, especially so when playing pianissimo.
I don’t notice as much from the action The thing that is loud for me is the sound when my fingers strike the keys.
Sound-wise it is really good
Thank you, guy. It's not DP, it's fucking noisy expensive shit! Yamaha p515 has worse keybed and sounds. Look at RD-2000(21.7kg)/FP-90X(23kg) from Roland. They have PHA-50 is the most silent on market but sounds are specific and modelled by Roland's algorithm, matter of taste
Tried RD2000 twice I think. Solid option but it's on different price bracket with the ES920. Probably should compare to the Kawai MP7, Kronos, or Montage