I bought my si in June, I have since put a few thousand miles on it. And I personally love the car. It is fun to drive, it has good pick up, gas mileage is great, shifting and changing gears is a dream. (although the clutch is extremely light, it took me a few weeks to get used to it) I have the coup version. I don't personally like the looks of the sedan. But I really feel this car and the engine is under rated by a lot. Which I expected going in when I purchased it. Is it loud? No but the sound you get is nice. It has a nice sound to it and is a bit more meatier then you expect. It also does not have that annoying whine to it that previous gens had. I really enjoy this car. And for the price I feel it is more then worth it. This is not a sports car. It's a car that packs a little more punch, will retain its value. Honda is known for makng cars that last well in to the 200××× mile mark. And that's exactly what this car is designed to do. They toned these cars (And the previous models down) for that exact purpose. You should give this car a test drive before you complain. Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. I am very happy with my purchase. I love everything about this car.
They're starting to make the design of these Hondas a lot nicer. A friend of mines got a '13 SI Coupe and it's pretty clean! As a company I think Honda's always had a reputation for making safe, reliable cars, but as far as sportiness, I can definitely see they're starting to step their game up! Btw, when are you gonna get your hands on a new Type-R?
Well it’s been in the history that hatch’s are Type R and coupe and sedans are the Si models. been that way for 20+ years. but they may switch up. And the Si’s have better track performance modifications than the “sport”
Amir Dadabhoy VTEC was only to improve economy and top end performance, with thr turbo its unneeded but this engine starts dropping off at the top so a second cam profile would've been nice.
10th gen are pretty awesome... but the interior has too much cheap plastic parts. they RATTLE a lot. My family has 3 civic (si, sport and hatchback) and they all rattle like crazy.
I'm hoping Honda makes an accord type r or type s like in Japan and Europe. I feel like Honda is diving back into their sporty side. Awesome video though!
I'm not hating, I'm loving honda's new products, but my 2001 v6 accord has better power to weight ratio that this. Cars can't ever be as light as they used to, because of regulations.
The absence of vtec is sad. They kept it for the TypeR which is now being bid at dealerships for almost double the price. Do you know what would have been nice? If Honda came out with a turbo si that could produce more torque than a freakin Ford Fiesta ST.
The only thing I hate is the rear of the car and the way the rear quarter panel was designed. No more vtec oh well, the people complaining about it not having vtec aren't looking into buying it they just want something to complain about
Alejandro R Don’t listen to him. This car is just fine. No one can get a car and trade it back in...probably got repossessed. Besides him, I have the EX and it is a great car. People make it like having a CVT is something to apologize for, but there isn’t anything wrong with that. You get what you can afford and what you want....Don’t listen to TH-cam mechanics and self proclaimed car enthusiasts lol.
@jose ciriaco A k20 from the 2018+ Honda Accord or 2017+ Civic Type R engine can be swapped into these 2017+ Civic Sis, while a bit costly it can be done! 😎🔥
An FC Honda Civic Si is like an FK8 Civic Type R in disguise because of the front and rear bumpers. Normally, in Malaysia, I have seen Type R conversions on a normal Honda Civic FC sedan. Any concerns?
I actually this is the best looking civic model. (In black) but I wish they would've done with a dual exhaust instead of a huge single exhaust in the middle
Bros FOURR Speed great review!! I love all of the Si s! I have owned a 09' a 12' a 14' and now the 17 ! All in four door! Having driven and owned them all for years I do have to say the new one , 17' is my favorite for sure!!
Shaun Christensen this is my first Si but I have driven all other si and this is my favorite si I don't care what anybody say about no vtec. I take the little turbo four lol
V8F LEXUS If you mean this previous gen Si, those only redlined to about 7k. I'm no Honda expert so you may very well be referring to a different generation. Hey, I think the new Si is dumb as fuck too, but it's just the guy's opinion. After all, there has to at least be someone who likes them because they're selling.
Buying Brand New Chevy Cruze Makes me Sad Dear car customers around the world: I bought a brand new Chevy Cruze, manual transmission, on December 10, 2016. One day after (December 11, 2016), while the car was parked at the curb, it rolled down the road hitting another car on its way down. I am sure that I had engaged the parking brake, indicated by the “!” symbol displayed in red on the instrument panel. I’ve been raising to General Motors Corporation (GMC) this question - why is it that the said Cruze, in neutral transmission, rolled down the slope even though the parking brake symbol, “!” (in red color), is displayed on the car’s instrument panel? The GMC explained that: “by design intent, the parking brake warning lamp on the instrument panel (!) will illuminate with the brake lever is raised to the first detent position (first audible click). However, this warning is not an indicator that the parking brake has been fully engaged. Specifically, the Chevrolet Cruze Owner’s Manual Instructs the owner to pull firmly (on the lever) without pressing the release button, in order to engaged the parking brake correctly. The primary purpose of illuminating the park brake warning lamp, even when the parking brake is not fully engaged, is to prevent the operator from driving the vehicle with parking brakes partially engaged.” (letter sent to me by GMC dated April 11, 2017). I disagree with the above explanation by GMC. I maintain that a technical deficiency persists between the engagement of parking brakes with respect to the warning light (!). The Cruze Owner’s Manual does not state anything related to partially-engaged and fully-engaged parking brakes with same warning light (!) displayed on the instrument panel. I am submitting GMC’s explanation, as quoted above, for your views and comments. Thank you and drive safely.
@@tharamendoza6287 Hey ! Well it’s actually the Honda Civic 2017 not the Si 🤦🏾♀️ sorry about that . And it all depends on how much you would want to put down , I did a trade with my old car and I didn’t have to put anything down . The payment is $300 could’ve gotten lower in the 200$ but I did a even trade my car wasn’t worth that much . 😏But it’s okay for me
Cool car but why would you get a brand new untested engine from Honda or a 5 year old engine design from ford with ecoboost when you can get the over 10 year old tested and true direct injected turbos from vw?
Yeah they really just do the more powerful engine. I think Honda has lost their sporty aspects. Cars seem pretty boring. Aside from the Type-R. Thats probably why the SI isnt much more sporty then the normal civic
Brandon Hauser ja a long way to hell piece of shit civic i have ever seeing and powerless 20psi for 205 cmon honda our k24z7 makes that much stock dummies
acostafeliz I think it's ugly and slow and yet it's not a waste of effort because they obviously put none into it for the 10th gen. My first car when I was 16 was a 2012 Si FB6. I know how an Si drives....and I'd never again spend $25k on a Civic....at the end of the day it's just a Civic. The same with the already slow Type-R. It's practically a Civic EX trim level with a bigger motor. In the U.S. it makes 306 bhp....not to mention it's only FWD. and it's $35,000 MSRP does no justice for the damn thing when the Focus RS has faster 0-60, higher top speed, more features in the car by a SHIT TON, AWD, and 44 more bhp and a shit ton more torque. With yet the same price as the effortless Civic
Sergio Aguirre And actually if you want to get technical before you talk more random shit you pulled out of your ass.... the 0-60 time from Honda UNDER PERFECT CONDITIONS for the Type R is 5.8 seconds while from Ford the Ecoboost is 5.1 and 5.3 for the manual. Stock vs stock the ecoboost eats up the Type R still with similar curb weight and the ecoboost makes more power....
Sergio Aguirre My car isn't stock.....411 wtq and if I brake boost at launch my 0-60 timer gets best 4.7 (typically I get 4.8 tho)..... still my car shits on a Type R. And you're full of shit...the Si doesn't make 205 whp, it makes 205 bhp. That's a big difference smart ass. The 0-60 for the Si was rated at 6.5 seconds from Honda.
When you have a sedan, the back seat is designed to put somebody back there. With the Coupe, that back seat isnt really designed that well for comfort, hence why the back seat has the red stitching on the sedan
you said nice looking carbon fiber is that real carbon fiber "because u don't have to actually say when it is real carbon fiber ! carbon fiber is always good looking
Steve Michaud I agree man they keep talking about the turbo being bigger but in other videos they just talk about he si having something about less fins of the inner turbo..not to mention the ext civic has been shown to be pushing same hp n tq number in other videos..I feel like the ext is easier to be customize than the si for example the electronic suspension.. the ext allows you choose what you wanna put.
This is by far the most detail video of this car. You literally gave all the specs. Good job man
Thanks, appreciate that!
I bought my si in June, I have since put a few thousand miles on it. And I personally love the car. It is fun to drive, it has good pick up, gas mileage is great, shifting and changing gears is a dream. (although the clutch is extremely light, it took me a few weeks to get used to it) I have the coup version. I don't personally like the looks of the sedan. But I really feel this car and the engine is under rated by a lot. Which I expected going in when I purchased it. Is it loud? No but the sound you get is nice. It has a nice sound to it and is a bit more meatier then you expect. It also does not have that annoying whine to it that previous gens had. I really enjoy this car. And for the price I feel it is more then worth it. This is not a sports car. It's a car that packs a little more punch, will retain its value. Honda is known for makng cars that last well in to the 200××× mile mark. And that's exactly what this car is designed to do. They toned these cars (And the previous models down) for that exact purpose. You should give this car a test drive before you complain. Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. I am very happy with my purchase. I love everything about this car.
Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and they all stink!
Megan Tosh I got the 18 sedan in black. The vents all around kind of blend in so I don’t mind it as much.
They're starting to make the design of these Hondas a lot nicer. A friend of mines got a '13 SI Coupe and it's pretty clean! As a company I think Honda's always had a reputation for making safe, reliable cars, but as far as sportiness, I can definitely see they're starting to step their game up! Btw, when are you gonna get your hands on a new Type-R?
Honda should have the si on every civic body type ...the hatchback needs to be a si not sport
i agree!
it has the Type R...
Wesley Green some people don’t want a Type R they want a more subtle looking Si instead.
Well it’s been in the history that hatch’s are Type R and coupe and sedans are the Si models. been that way for 20+ years. but they may switch up. And the Si’s have better track performance modifications than the “sport”
Beautiful car 🚗 I love Honda Civic
Yeah the Honda Civic is a great setup!
That two door looks soo sweet man.
I like everything about it except the tacky-looking exhaust tip and hideous honeycomb mesh.
R.I.P VTEC 😔😔
Sergio Aguirre but. VTEC yo
Amir Dadabhoy VTEC was only to improve economy and top end performance, with thr turbo its unneeded but this engine starts dropping off at the top so a second cam profile would've been nice.
get the Type R if you're hurting so badly
+Wesley Green Honda doesn't make the V-Tec for the Type R. In fact the V-Tec engine is non-existent nowadays. All we have is turbo.
Michael Langdon you're 100% incorrect please look up the info on the k20 in the type r
turbo kicked in yo
To see a tuned Ecoboost vs Civic Si go here.
th-cam.com/video/cHyBdof1kNo/w-d-xo.html
If they offered leather seats in the Si I’d be sold.
Yeah really! At least some sort of alcantara or something would be cool!
Bros FOURR Speed Absolutely especially considering the MSRP of this car.
HDMI exhaust is all I need right now
Are there any internal engine differences or is it just a different turbo? I hope the SI engine has beefier internals.
sounds better than the Type R
Hate the rear end with those huge fake plastic vents. They should have made it look more like the coupe in the rear.
These with bolt ons, and a tune ran low 12s, without slicks
2017 civic si coupe vs 2008 civic si sedan th-cam.com/video/UnkWR5y9dVE/w-d-xo.html
SI spoiler no air pass through. This cause turbulence on rear and feel draggy?
bring back the s2000!
10th gen are pretty awesome... but the interior has too much cheap plastic parts. they RATTLE a lot. My family has 3 civic (si, sport and hatchback) and they all rattle like crazy.
is this a diesel?
How much did u pay out the door?
nice!!^^
Just can't get over the fact that the side view looks like a station wagon....
Love the looks of the SI, the Type R is too cartoonish for me, almost like a caricature of a overdone car.
5:03 that's not the boost gauge lmao fail
The only good thing in this car are the seats the rest is garbage
ugly they should make the type r 2.4 turbo n the si 2.0turbo vtec. ill stayed woth my 09 si better looking them dis
elcholo212 makes 2 of us bro
elcholo212 I'm sick it's 1,5 no VTEC as well
I'm so glad I didn't buy this piece of shit
Maybe you cant .
Great review covered everything I would ask.
I'm hoping Honda makes an accord type r or type s like in Japan and Europe. I feel like Honda is diving back into their sporty side. Awesome video though!
Same specs in the Civic Type R motor inside the new Accord? Or more power?
I was hoping for a detuned nsx motor in the Accord. But I guess Acura will be he ones to do that in the tlx.
Why would an Accord share a detuned powerplant from a $156,000 sports car?
Not with the ugly 2018 accord they just announced 😂
Sergio Aguirre The 2018 accord looks terrible
Is this a good first car to learn manual on?
Definitely. Very easy to drive
Bros FOURR Speed thanks, thinking about buying my second car and I wanted a manual. Definitely on the list for me
I'm not hating, I'm loving honda's new products, but my 2001 v6 accord has better power to weight ratio that this. Cars can't ever be as light as they used to, because of regulations.
The absence of vtec is sad. They kept it for the TypeR which is now being bid at dealerships for almost double the price.
Do you know what would have been nice? If Honda came out with a turbo si that could produce more torque than a freakin Ford Fiesta ST.
The only thing I hate is the rear of the car and the way the rear quarter panel was designed. No more vtec oh well, the people complaining about it not having vtec aren't looking into buying it they just want something to complain about
Mumble purchased the car and traded it right back in lol. The car is trash and I would take an older model Si or Type R over this any day.
V8F LEXUS why didnt you like it? I'm thinking about getting one
Alejandro R Don’t listen to him. This car is just fine. No one can get a car and trade it back in...probably got repossessed. Besides him, I have the EX and it is a great car. People make it like having a CVT is something to apologize for, but there isn’t anything wrong with that. You get what you can afford and what you want....Don’t listen to TH-cam mechanics and self proclaimed car enthusiasts lol.
LOL! Nice try troll. You returned the car cause you couldn't make payments. This is by far the best Civic Gen yet. @@eddiegarcia1560
@@ChuukeseStink I get it.. traded in a cheap Civic for a more expensive 370z lol yeah that helped me with payments
I'll love to get one of these, then slip a V-TEC in it after 5 years. :-D
Could i do that?
@jose ciriaco A k20 from the 2018+ Honda Accord or 2017+ Civic Type R engine can be swapped into these 2017+ Civic Sis, while a bit costly it can be done! 😎🔥
This car sounds much better than the type R
Cant wait til i get my 2018 Honda civic si next month, i got it with most of the factory upgrades/accessories
I like the 8th gen si seats way more than this gen. it's kinda meh to me.
That's a really well done review. Thank you.
An FC Honda Civic Si is like an FK8 Civic Type R in disguise because of the front and rear bumpers. Normally, in Malaysia, I have seen Type R conversions on a normal Honda Civic FC sedan. Any concerns?
Oh thats cool
I actually this is the best looking civic model. (In black) but I wish they would've done with a dual exhaust instead of a huge single exhaust in the middle
Yeh I think the single tip is a bit too wide. I like the blue on that coupe a lot!
HUGE rear fake vents are hideous! SI coupes are smaller as is the EX-T model.
Oweeee this car tough 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The Honda Civic is a great selling car, the new body style is definitely on fire haha, are you looking to buy one?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed black colored yes .... I have a Honda but it’s not the really new ones
Bros FOURR Speed great review!! I love all of the Si s! I have owned a 09' a 12' a 14' and now the 17 ! All in four door! Having driven and owned them all for years I do have to say the new one , 17' is my favorite for sure!!
Shaun Christensen this is my first Si but I have driven all other si and this is my favorite si I don't care what anybody say about no vtec. I take the little turbo four lol
I chose the 86 for RWD and the same amount of power, but that bump in torque from the turbo sounds really nice.
Shaun Christensen just bought a white 2017 with limo tint and this is a fun car, the turbo makes all the difference
V8F LEXUS If you mean this previous gen Si, those only redlined to about 7k. I'm no Honda expert so you may very well be referring to a different generation.
Hey, I think the new Si is dumb as fuck too, but it's just the guy's opinion. After all, there has to at least be someone who likes them because they're selling.
I just bought the same exact car. I dig it.
Very cool!
Are those fake vents in the back?
Buying Brand New Chevy Cruze Makes me Sad
Dear car customers around the world:
I bought a brand new Chevy Cruze, manual transmission, on December 10, 2016. One day after (December 11, 2016), while the car was parked at the curb, it rolled down the road hitting another car on its way down. I am sure that I had engaged the parking brake, indicated by the “!” symbol displayed in red on the instrument panel.
I’ve been raising to General Motors Corporation (GMC) this question - why is it that the said Cruze, in neutral transmission, rolled down the slope even though the parking brake symbol, “!” (in red color), is displayed on the car’s instrument panel?
The GMC explained that: “by design intent, the parking brake warning lamp on the instrument panel (!) will illuminate with the brake lever is raised to the first detent position (first audible click). However, this warning is not an indicator that the parking brake has been fully engaged. Specifically, the Chevrolet Cruze Owner’s Manual Instructs the owner to pull firmly (on the lever) without pressing the release button, in order to engaged the parking brake correctly. The primary purpose of illuminating the park brake warning lamp, even when the parking brake is not fully engaged, is to prevent the operator from driving the vehicle with parking brakes partially engaged.” (letter sent to me by GMC dated April 11, 2017).
I disagree with the above explanation by GMC. I maintain that a technical deficiency persists between the engagement of parking brakes with respect to the warning light (!). The Cruze Owner’s Manual does not state anything related to partially-engaged and fully-engaged parking brakes with same warning light (!) displayed on the instrument panel.
I am submitting GMC’s explanation, as quoted above, for your views and comments. Thank you and drive safely.
Just bought this car 🤗🤗🤗 finally lol it’s been 4 years . Now time to get rid of my old and first car … I’m so excited 🤗
Nice! Good work. Rally cool car for the money for sure!
how much is it monthly?
@@tharamendoza6287 Hey ! Well it’s actually the Honda Civic 2017 not the Si 🤦🏾♀️ sorry about that . And it all depends on how much you would want to put down , I did a trade with my old car and I didn’t have to put anything down . The payment is $300 could’ve gotten lower in the 200$ but I did a even trade my car wasn’t worth that much . 😏But it’s okay for me
OMFG Im glad i bought the 9 gen si! very happy with it. This one is ugly but thats just me! no offence
Cool car but why would you get a brand new untested engine from Honda or a 5 year old engine design from ford with ecoboost when you can get the over 10 year old tested and true direct injected turbos from vw?
and honda decided to swap chain driven engine to WET BELT design. total stupidy
Oh yeah?
Not very much difference. Older si models had more character.
Yeah they really just do the more powerful engine. I think Honda has lost their sporty aspects. Cars seem pretty boring. Aside from the Type-R. Thats probably why the SI isnt much more sporty then the normal civic
I prefer the civic si coupé it looks a whole better! The civic si sedan looks ugly because the rear just looks so way out of place!
Pakistan ma civic turbo hai ya wali Kab aigy
i want to buy this car next year but its $18,000 dollars i cant afford that. grr
good review. Honda has came along way.
Brandon Hauser ja a long way to hell piece of shit civic i have ever
seeing and powerless 20psi for 205 cmon honda our k24z7 makes that much stock dummies
for what I see the people hating on the car is the people they haven't drive the car
acostafeliz I think it's ugly and slow and yet it's not a waste of effort because they obviously put none into it for the 10th gen. My first car when I was 16 was a 2012 Si FB6. I know how an Si drives....and I'd never again spend $25k on a Civic....at the end of the day it's just a Civic. The same with the already slow Type-R. It's practically a Civic EX trim level with a bigger motor. In the U.S. it makes 306 bhp....not to mention it's only FWD. and it's $35,000 MSRP does no justice for the damn thing when the Focus RS has faster 0-60, higher top speed, more features in the car by a SHIT TON, AWD, and 44 more bhp and a shit ton more torque. With yet the same price as the effortless Civic
6ixology just buy a focus
Sergio Aguirre And actually if you want to get technical before you talk more random shit you pulled out of your ass.... the 0-60 time from Honda UNDER PERFECT CONDITIONS for the Type R is 5.8 seconds while from Ford the Ecoboost is 5.1 and 5.3 for the manual. Stock vs stock the ecoboost eats up the Type R still with similar curb weight and the ecoboost makes more power....
Sergio Aguirre My car isn't stock.....411 wtq and if I brake boost at launch my 0-60 timer gets best 4.7 (typically I get 4.8 tho)..... still my car shits on a Type R. And you're full of shit...the Si doesn't make 205 whp, it makes 205 bhp. That's a big difference smart ass. The 0-60 for the Si was rated at 6.5 seconds from Honda.
Sergio Aguirre and my car makes 347 whp 411 wtq as is right now
People complaining about this car are still driving old hondas lol. It's time to upgrade
This car only looks good in black...wth! All car will look better in black
So can I get a Honda Civic si with an automatic transmission
I don't believe so, I'm pretty sure the SI just comes in a manual!
i dont understand why still civic si has no leather seats and whyyyy the damn seats are not not powered -_-
Nice car though
wtf. so there's no difference speedwise between the 17 turbo s.i. and my 2012 s.i?
wow this SI has a beautiful paint finish, very shiny and without orange peel! Mine is not terrible but not as good as this car.
If I switch my 16 inch wheels these 18 inch Ines, will the ride height change?
HONDA MAKES THE BEST CLOTH SEATS IN THE INDUSTRY!!
They are definitely nice seats, but I would say most brands are very similar!
I hate the route Honda is going with these days.. 8th gen was a bad ass si though
I can tell you I just saw one in person a red one at the dealer man looks so much better in person
What a waste to drive this car "around the parking lot".
If you look closely, it have Ford Focus ST design in it
If you look closely, it have Ford Focus ST design in it
So the SI sedan has Red stitching in the back seat but my SI coupe DOES NOT! What the Hell Honda!!??
When you have a sedan, the back seat is designed to put somebody back there. With the Coupe, that back seat isnt really designed that well for comfort, hence why the back seat has the red stitching on the sedan
The only thing I personally liked are the seats, I want them for my 8th gen lol
you said nice looking carbon fiber is that real carbon fiber "because u don't have to actually say when it is real carbon fiber ! carbon fiber is always good looking
Its fake
i with i got mine in black. it's a beauty!
Nice! This generation Civic is a great overall car!
no VTEC? looks like i'll be going with the mazda 3
Actually the si doesnt have a bigger turbo it only has a remap from the same earth dream 1.5t of the more basic civic turbo
Steve Michaud I agree man they keep talking about the turbo being bigger but in other videos they just talk about he si having something about less fins of the inner turbo..not to mention the ext civic has been shown to be pushing same hp n tq number in other videos..I feel like the ext is easier to be customize than the si for example the electronic suspension.. the ext allows you choose what you wanna put.
Can't believe that's 20psi lol for 205Bhp?
Those bumper grill looks just like the BMW msport grills
Does it have an actual mechanical limited slip differential?
In San Antonio they are still asking close to sticker price!
I wouldn't mind getting this. Very nice honda
How tall are you? I just wanna know bc im 6ft tall and ive never been in the newer civics idk if ill fit in one
Check one out to really see how it is, I'm 5'10.
Sir, can you buy an Zhiyun to help you shot video?
Great review! I think the car looks sharp. One thing I would've liked to see was the engine bay.
Shifiting with no clutch you distroying the gears
Love the blue. can picture me driving one with some white wheels
Can you sellthis car in China, Honda？
The Sound Is Original Or Is Changed?
Civic Si with manual transmission ? 🤔🤔
I like it, the only thing that pushes me away in the centered exhaust tip
Not a fan of that? I think it makes it look more sporty for the type of vehicle.
Bros FOURR Speed yeah idk I feel like it looks awkward in this body. I rather have the normal dual exit or a single
@@370gtalej5 Oh gotcha. Can always modify it maybe
Bros FOURR Speed yeah I think I’ve seen one here with a different rear diffuser for a different exhaust placement
@@370gtalej5 That could be a fun project!
interesting location for the truck release.
Steering feels way better than the 9th gen.
just get the hatchback sport instead
Pakistan ma Kab arhi hai civic my favourite car
This or the Elantra Sport for 4,000 less *w discounts* ?
hundai is shitty south korean brand with bad past reliabillity. defs go with Honda Japanese made cars > Korean
Mine got 143 miles per hour
Bye bye vtec and hello turbo
made in INDIA clutch