Dan M it's because if they would ban en they would lose alot of money because then nobody goes watch tournaments and teams gets fucked up its like doping in ucf lol
Always the most braindead people comes with these accusations. I've played CS on and off since 2001 and probably played more then 10k hours in total. I watch alot of my own demos and i do just as much "fishy" stuff as these pros do. I dont think any player on top teams are cheating now. I doubt they would play on big events with cheat. They have a monthley salary of 10k dollar per month and prize money on that. Why risk it with cheats? Or is Valve protecting them? xD Maybe in tier 3 people are cheating, to get a chance to get picked up by better teams. But keep these videos going, it's hilarious for actually good players to watch. The pro's are probably laughing their asses off.
I'm not saying they are cheating. but isnt your argument about their salaries a good argument FOR cheating. If youre getting payed that much wouldnt you want to continue to get paid that much or even increase your pay? its a short carreer so i dont think your argument holds up. that being said, im on the fence about weather they cheat or not
kinda agree. anyway tho, the comments will look like this "you're a silver noob, they're not cheating, you don't know anything, etc..". because seeing most of those fuckers flicking on the enemy's head isn't enough proof for them..
HasheD Get the fuck out silver.. Wgen you are higher then MGE you should watch your own demo... you look at enemys aswell its just crosshairplacement some of the clips are fishy but some others is only random stuff that happens when you play.
HasheD fuck outta here noob, look at your highlights and you can see sometimes you accidentally look to someone through a smoke or a wall, but you are a noob you probably dont have any highlights to look at, smh
物語の幸福 So one pro player did something wrong and everyone else has to be hacking ? So just becouse Hitler every other german is a Nazi? get some logic pls
I had to do a project for school and i had to do it in word , i did not have word so my friend forsaken gave it to me he is a good man , idk why but now my aim is better in csgo is this happening because im a good student and i do my homework ? dunno...
The first Shox on doors at long isn’t hacking, it’s a lan trick that pros use at LAN they shake their mouse at a wall so if someone’s there the crowd will make noise but if they don’t make noise they know no ones near there
@@anupamdas4190 It's not ok to cheat... everyting in current century is faked so peoples have some fun but yes they hack not big suprise like in other sports where they get paid to lose or win match.
man, every good person gets accused for hackin, even i a dmg have some pretty vacy mments, just remember that these pros have played so many matches, and sometime something wierd happens, that is just how it is, and also GOTV isn't the most exact representation of the ingame. if you want i can link you a video showing this.
You can always pick those few from thousands of hours of footage because these guys play that much and fuck it, sometimes running jumping headshots happen because you are lucky, these vids also record in a worse tickrate than the actual game so crosshair may seem like it jumped in 1 instant but actually it was just a fast movement with the mouse and not aimlock. Those who accuse 90% of pro players with cheating just can't imagine someone getting that good in the game and are just bitter. I know pros in real life, seen them play and that is sick what they can do with that much energy put into that game...
"How would they hack in a LAN?" th-cam.com/video/YWYpeB3srVM/w-d-xo.html "They get extremely lucky with theses." th-cam.com/video/YWYpeB3srVM/w-d-xo.html Yeah just luck, no blatant hacking there
well, i could tell you you dont even need a mouse or anything.. There are cheats out there, or at least were presented to the public, which you had to buy a phone off the cheat-creators because that phone had like External Radar or they could even vibrate when you were aiming through a wall and an enemy was just on you crosshair .. thats the shit m8.. srsly.. never hacked but know how the "underworld of hacking" is functioning...
most players cheat to get information, aim lock works as a wallhack, so they just choose the 'worst' player on they team, they let him do this for info and the rest just plays well, most pro teams have 1 suspicious cheater or scout however u call it, why dont people belive in cheatin on pro scene, its been hapening everywhere where the money is included, sport, olimpics, poltics, esport is getting bigger and bigger, more sponsors are coming, they make a living out of it so they just take the risk, think about it
I dont think that anyone in the pro scene is cheating !!!right now!!!, as moe said, since the first bans of pros came out, the scene got bigger and cheaters get even more punished, back then u just flew out of the team, now you breaking contracts, you have to pay afterwards and arent allowed to play in esports again, thats just too much to lose for such a high risk
The answer is simple. Incorporate a mouse cam on each system and when accused compare mouse movements to shady timestamps in majors or other big lan events. Sometimes you just need an unorthodox approach..
The problem is that the tournament organizers don't care. They probably know or at least suspect that people cheat, but they would rather leave it like this. What do you think would happen with the csgo scene if a known player was caught cheating? A lot of people would simply move away, or worse yet, would side with the pro player and accuse the tournament organizers of witch hunting
The thing is, it is so easy. So why dont they do it. Answer, if nobody cheats, there will be no more impossible flickshots, no more incredieble come backs, no more insane, how did he know, episodes in the game. It would just be a regular cs:go match, and who would like to see that
It's still astonishing to me that people think by saying "he's a flick shooter" can automatically explain how to catch and hold their cross hair over someone's head through the walls. Amazing.
The Shox part is my favorite. When Shroud comes through long doors he knows someome is pushing so he uses the crowd to be sure. Its not an aim lock its a sense of a little humor and 200 IQ
no need to play 10hrs a day to see that it's not normal to get the crosshair on the head throw the wall like that... trust me, i know what i'm talkin about ;)
i miss the old times where cheating was almost non existing in competitive games like UT99 and Quake 3 Arena. CS is swarmed with cheaters, even in eSports because of Money. They know it, their sponsors know it and Valve knows it. And yet they still are allowed to play, no one gets busted. The VAC ban wave only gets the "small fish". The big ones will never get caught, unless Volvo grows an extra set of balls and makes VAC more intrusive, a new banning system like Overwatch (the game from blizzard) and 0 tolerance policy. Even if it would mean to kill off 85% of the eSport.
said it like a true gamer. breaks my heart the love i have for this game yet i know it's full of cheaters and i'll never be pro anyway so why do i bother.
Bunch of kids disliking the video cause they believe in godlike playing of some pros. They are cheating, and that is the truth. There is a million dollar pool for reward, they all want it, and sure, there will be fair players, but also, there will be cheaters. You have the proof in front of you.
If u guys rly woulda know the truth about competitive gaming u all woulda stop playing any game xD i will tell u, i played on Console Call of duty with a neighbour of me, he played like a cheater but i visited him to play together, same monitor same Console, on his screen everything is super smooth, we had same Mouse Sensivity, /Controller, the contrast which was clearly different than mine was on his screen soooo perfect i was like wtf this is how a game should look like, Big fat and white Contrast without any pixels or weird Overall Screen, Just try to watch a pro gamer on twitch which has his camera direct to his Monitor so u can see the difference, u guys never thougt: wow how can it be so ez for them they have like 3 sec time to aim no enemy looks like good, while if i play on rank LEM allmost every enemie looks and shoots directly at me before i can even react :) ez game thats why they play on lan
Nope because SOME players are not hacking ! if you are not global then dont make these kind of videos because you dont know how pro's play so learn to play y'all
Adem Rama u dont get it, global Players are not that good, they just have it easier to play compared to many other Player, u never saw a Player with 3k hours sitting on Eagle? dude wake up
Adem Rama even being GE is not something that will make you a godlike player... It is only a broken rank system where scrubs get carried to smfc/ge by buddies...
Most of my aims are through the corners because I preemptively aim certain angles which also includes predicting headshots. I also aim through the walls whenever I hear something to pinpoint the sound better - 100% normal. I am not even going to mention odd shots and misfires, which do happen at times, too. The only sketchy thing I witnessed was the mouse switch. The rest was basically a statistical probability that sometimes correcting one's hand position and other random movements to constitute towards odd scenarios to the observing parties. Also in less stressful situations I tend to predict through walls without hearing anything and contemplate quickly whether there is a chance for someone to use such a location as a method of approach. If I was the center of attention as a pro player enough material would surface over time making people question my legitimacy. Yada-yada.
^Gonna agree with you. When I have to check corners, I move my cursor to wall first and then peek. Sometimes the enemy gives away footsteps sound which can be clearly heard and you can bang through wall.
That's why they sat openly in the arena without any glass on the boston major 2018. That fact wih the glass is not true. But they use noice canceling headphones
Ashe Ketchup idk most of the people and the fishy crap people dug out of clips but what I do know for a fact is that Subroza is cheating. It’s so obvious. However, many clips, if you slow it down enough, it just looks like aimbot because many people aim always headshot level, and as they look around their crosshair may go over an enemy head :/
Guys one or two are maybe hackin but thoses guys have the highest level of shot and crosshair placement in the world takin one or 2 clips on 50 games where he aim at the head through the door is just idiot
ofc its not enough proof if it happens one or two times. I could go through 5 of my own demos and i would be able to make a video accusing me of cheating becuase it happens that you run out of mouseppad space or cant turn your mouse anymore and then you just happen to look at an enemy. And maybe you dont have any game sense because a lot of pros are sometimes looking through walls at people when they have the info that they are there. And as those players are the best in the world they sometimes imitate the movement you get off of aimlock for fun. You can watch a few videos where maikelele does it or shroud or stewie or get right or olof when they are streaming. EDIT : And for everyone saying that some pros have fishy moments other pros dont have, everyone could get a few 16 tick demos maybe slow them down some ticks so its really bad quality and very choppy or just leave it at 16 ticks and then everyone could make a video of any pro after maybe searching through 3-8 demos and make a "FISHY COMPILATION; THIS PRO IS DEFINITELY CHEATING" video EDIT2: I saw some People say that the whole pro scene is fixed and thats why you cant become pro, if you are by chance living in germany or have 3 german friends that are over the age of 16 you can start your team in the german 99damge league and if you are good enough and in one of the first tiers you can easily qualify for the esl. Some of you dont seem to know that anyone can qualify for the esl if he goes through the qualifier. But if you try that and lose pls dont call your enemies hackers everyone who thinks that anyone who is better than them is hacking is just a sore loser. EDIT3: If you just say that the pro scene is fixed and thats why you cant get into the pro scene and they are only hitting shots because they are cheating you clearly arent a very good player and may think that everyone above supreme level is a hacker because they are hitting many shots and would 16-0 someone who is 2 ranks lower.
so do it. make a Video of ur Demos.... ur so fucking blind if u rly think this Scenes are legit... especially the 12 bullet lock. he did that more then once
Dude all pro cs player use cheats. Even valve obligate them to use it. Fallen uses cheats, Fer, ColdZera(used in past), S1mple, Monezy or whatever is nickname is(thats why he find those bugs so easily), JW, Olof, Flusha, KennyS, Guardian, Zywoo, Hiro, Shourd, PashaBiceps, old NinjaInPijamas, F0rest, Get_Right, and many more. Counter-Strike industry is build the same way has WWE. To fake the reality and to entertain whos watching them. Valve isnt able to build any anti-cheat that ban cheaters because if it happen, all pro players would be automaticaly vac-ban and the community+game will become a huge joke and loose all credibility. Only easy manipulated people actually believe that cs pro-players dont cheat and they have skills. Cs community lives on top a huge lie and fake game with so much stuff hide inside valve tournament wall, just to suck young kids, young adults and some childish aldults money with skins and cases. All teams and star pro-players are early choosen by Valve members before each match/tournement end and they made all thing believel just for fools believe that it is genuine and honest. Soon all will be revealed and they would need to close the game for good. But people only will believe in my words when things start going messy.
I agree with your video, even some people who are see this great video montage, they are blinded. Bad for they, it's so obvious when they mouse target are shaking, or like in min 5:38 when Subroza it's aiming automatically at enemy without to see the enemy while actually he shoot on other player....boom suddently aiming to his back. From me it's a GREAT VIDEO and i support you. Valve are developing "thousands" of games but they scope is to get the money, and that is. If in a 21 century world you cannot stop an cheater to cheat in your own game it's very comic situation. In what era are we living? when you need help of players to SENT REPORT of a cheater??? Or what we are talking in 2017 AD? I think just this: "Why Valve to stop cheaters, they just ban some accounts who are reported, and they get pretty good money for another account buyed." It's so frustrating that some honest people buy this game and they cannot play honestly because of Valve, and the cheater. Remember that the guilty is always Valve and then cheaters.
So you're saying, that it doesnt matter that they played 10s of thousands of hours and could've accidently flick onto something? Also, professionals are very aware of their surroundings so they're always checking things, even if they hear the slightest noise. And at lan parties they cant download cheats so, the ones on lan parties are wrong, and adreN said that you cant use your mobile in LAN parties either so...
By the way, look at a clip from a tournament, you see pros looking at walls, its just unlucky, and at 4:45, he was just looking at the pole ready for someone to peak.
its not an accident sometimes and they dont ALWAYS do it just sometimes or you know like in 1 map or something but yes some are excusable because we dont have the full in game volume that they might or some other coincidental reason. But i think that yes some pros are def cheating and theyre on the best teams too
the fnx clip is the least suspicious imo. It looks like cheats though. As you said pros play 10000+ hours of cs which means they have alot of time to practice hiding their cheats ;D
And no, im saying in tens of thousands of hours they may have looked at someones head through the wall accidentaly, and yes, I agree with you some of those were suspicious, but lots of them werent.
They seriously need an A.I that looks for players if they aimlock to other players through wall. Without having direct sight first. And im sure 90% of pro players will get banned lol.
sure the guy is obviously there, but that doesn't explain the instant snap to the head while the guy is still behind a wall where he could have been standing somewhere else. the instant headshot proves me that he was hacking.
Circling the mouse at a wall is a genuine strat/troll. Crowds can get unbelievably loud so if you move your crosshair at a wall and you hear the audience react there is a pretty good chance someone is there. As for the rest of the clips... they are just that... clips. Several seconds out of a pros cs career. Most of these players have well over 5-6 thousand hours in this game. Of course sketchy shit will happen. Im certain that if ANYONE reading this were to watch a single one of their matches back with xray on they would, at some point, see something that looks sus. Another thing people seem to forget is there is an entire team of professional callouts going through their ears the whole match. Innocence until proven guilty... like forsaken :p
u cant be serious about going around pointing out cheaters in a pro level with 100% sure. These players never got banned. I have my suspicions as well but u got some wtf clips here that show that u dont have mutch knowledge in this game.
As said in the end aimlocks purpose is not to make you shoot better, but to give info where the enemy is. But I know you didn't watch the whole video, just close your eyes and say nothing is wrong in the scene.
My favorite was when the guy snapped to and shot the head of one guy (through the wall) then snapped to second players head (also behind a wall), fired off another round then pulled to the left and paused because he was like "Oh crap, did anyone see that?"
I thought my eyes were having problems since I saw Shroud and a whole bunch of so called "cheaters" on the video, and then I checked the comment section. Lovely.
scream flicks to heads all the time he isn't cheating haha. he does it live on twitch and plays the same if not better. I don't think cheating is determined from game sense that's called thousands of hours in a game experience and predictable plays. silvers don't play the same as a higher rank. higher ranks usually have set plans for certain situations. now there are stand ins that get vac banned because there using scripts but in the finals they monitor shit closer than yall think that's why there equipment is given to them and u cant just bring ur own to use
The pro scene is even worse now. Robotic aim and shakes from every player, even the famously BAD aimers and IGLs. They don't use it just for info. Valve and organizers have no incentive to catch them as more highlights and epic games = more revenue. Poor denis he really looks sad and concerned when swapping mouse lol
***** cause everyone and olof is equally mentioned, but you especially exempt him even though, as mentioned earlier, they're all equally mentioned by the ex-professional player that got banned for cheating.
0:18 people call that gamesense? How the hell is locking onto people through walls and shooting straight on their head gamesense, because a pro did it?
Exode The mouse switch was really fishy, but I still believe that a lot of pros cheat, from Flusha locking onto people through smoke and walls in places that aren't pre aim spots, to pros getting banned mid game.
5:39 this clip is easily explained. Subroza heard a drop from Tetris so flicked toward the sound. I’m silver 2 and I can see this... what’s this guys rank? Soggy Cardboard 1???
He didn't even drop dpwn and he already aimed on him plus he was shooting uy in front of him and mid fight flicked back to guy behind him that's just stupid
@@triplesixpluggin very true...but even the movement was too smooth...his aim goes only one direction....left....no handshake no aiming up or down....that's how bots are aiming ....
Pros are kinda playing a different game and u either accept it or stop watching Im still kinda curious how would clean game between the world best look like but i doubt we'l see that again ..too much money
are you shure about that? i couldn't believe it too when i read this just 10 minutes ago because i kinda like him. wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Banned_players Look at 2014-02-01 or just type his name in ctrl+f
DA LIL OCP the snap is irregular. That’s the main point, doesn’t matter how long you’ve played, the snap directly to his head isn’t pre-aim lmao... There are players in GE that don’t even pre-aim that well
If i had a case in overwatch with all these moments just in one game i'd be 100% sure that player is cheating. but when we are talking about several issues per player in more than 5 years of career here comes the law of large numbers that states: "the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed". Pro's playing dozens of games, bo5, bo3, rounds and they get thru so many situations and with each they are getting closer and closer to the moment, which will be determined as suspecious. Thats just probability theory. But you know, im pretty sure that there were players who has played with cheats and i'm sure there will be more. But the trick is, we will never know whether it was just a tick of probability or pure cheats untill they'll be officially banned by valve. Many of us, common players, have experienced a moment or few when you actually said to yourself: "OMG, IM GONNA GET BANNED FOR WHAT I JUST DID!!!", but after that you only concider yourself as a good player. think about it. btw HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Cheers
supplied computer, mouse and keyboard, with any access ports blocked off.......its the only way, when you are talking the money these guys are on for a win they are going to try and get every possible advantage and cant be trusted. level the playing field......then its 100% down to skill and luck
If everyone is cheating, honest players are just going to be lower ranked because even with pro reflexes, you can't see though walls or auto lock so that split second in human reaction time vs the aimbot's reaction time makes a huge difference
Actually you are wrong, I ranked up so many times and I'm pretty sure I'm not cheating...Look at gold nova and silver ranks, no one is good, no one plays with strats so you can't predict people, in higher ranks people start getting predictable, that's why you see pro's knowing what the other teams are doing...
@@dillonferreira3529 yeye ye ye what ever you say mate I am literally gaming all the time and still silver, because of toxicity and hacking check my latest live stream of counter strike source you, will see how well I play. I do not see you posting vids on this game, then again recently recording software's do not work because valve tried to stop the hackers from hacking only to fail. LOL just goes to show you that the criminals are always one step ahead.
If forsaken can go so far with his silver game knowledge I wouldn't be surprised if these players did too. In CS:GO they assume you don't use cheat and look for reasons to justify certain behaviour and when you question those things you somehow become a "HATER"
@YexaC 100% correct. Literally these "PRO" players brainwashing little csgo fanboys so they can dropped their jaw and say woooowwww. I've been trying to shoot like these "pro" it never works, then i download some aimlock crap now it's 100% confirmed i can shoot like them. dirty business. even female gamers in "pro" scene of csgo looks like a pornstars, i never seen big fat ugly obese girl in those scene, all look like a pornstar, prolly doing orgy with GABE for their fame and fanbase boost, or banging valve empolyees and all these esports upper jew. i never believe these pro since 1.6 era. coz their aiming, how they lock into enemies are unatural and mostly impossible to be implemented.
@@ulyanaademovich8352 what the fuck are you talking about? This looks like some 36 year old trying to tell me vaccines cause autism and the earth is flat.
hahahahah the ignorance in comments... trying to defend their fav. player... :D get real guys... cheating is real thing... i think simple and electronic are also cheating, where can i download demo files to check pro matches?
cavestory77 toxic melee fan they’re not cheating lol, this video is 1 of a million clips of these players but it’d be impossible to not have a single clip where it doesn’t look like you’re cheating
the shot from old mirage could just be random luck my dude, he was still shooting and the spray randomly shot the player the one from byali on cache, you could have seen the enemy's barrel
IncrediBle Not my point, and MG1 is above average, Im just saying, that I wouldnt, and neither of my non cheating friends would lock on to somebody through smoke or wall, for a couple seconds, Im not saying all of the clips are hacks tho, some are legit
they are all legit stfu u never played esl of your like they use mose and wire so one just screen shot your screen every 20 sec so thats why you can be shure they don't use wh and the other one keep traking of the value in game and lock on someone is basic coding that affect value of the game the only way to bypass wire is to use another computer and make a fake session or to make it crash BUT in esl computer you can't make a fake session and you can't make it crash so the only thing you can do is like they say hide a mouse with script in it on your pocket but you also get gaught so no they don't cheat at all thats why everyone is calling the channel owner silver bot players . also mg1 isn't above anything is lazy guys because even lem player don't even play well (am global by the way ) so realy stop i used to play on another game called sf2 and i did win competition and go to semi final of a major i know exactly why you can't cheat
When pro’s shake their mouse like that they want to show the audience they know where the enemy is, possibly because they made noice or they got info of their team, and maybe even because they know because they have incredible game sense
@@ulyanaademovich8352 WTF so why u call me idiot if even u know that :D U bastard i said there is no problem to cheating as a pro on lan now :D whole astralis is example for that
Seriously? Shroud is just born with talent my man, its like being the 9yr old kid in every competitive who complains about players being hacker but they are actually good.
Noobs think about that how could you kill a hacker when he knows your position and his bot is on , use your brain , you can fluke one time , you can't kill hacker every time ... Think about it when you know your enemy position and your aimbot is on than party for you ... if shroud is killing a hacker that mean hacker kills hacker ... hacker knows where enemies are but how shroud knows where is that hacker ??? He always knows where enemies are just because he use hacks ... so stop lifting the balls and don't support hacker like him
@@ttttnp9736 nah mate. Like when he is playing R6s. He has good aim? Yes, very good. But he isnt even close to the same thing as what he has done sometimes in cs (on pro level). Most pros are really good players, they are pro's, but many cheat aswell to get an advantage.
Clearly they heard sounds. After playing for so many hours its what u call a muscle memory. This dude just cant frag so he decided to blame pros to justify himself
ALL of the pros use cheats. just watch 1 match and see for yourself. those preaims through walls and inhuman reactions are so obvious man. wake up. they are almost all cheating, except the few honest individuals. csgo majors are basically HvH competitions.
I think it's probably about 20% (1 per team). I've been playing this game for over 7 years and I can personally tell you that most of the "cheating clips" are just people reading into shit too hard.
7 years of playing and what are you silver ? How come you're not pro ? Don't give me aids answer saying I got a job and school cause nigga gaming would be the best job
Ok so you will probably hate me for this it whenever I wall, I am always surprised at how much I aim onto other people through walls whenever I lift my mouse. It's actually not that uncommon to seemingly 'lock onto' other people through a wall.
Cheating has been associated with CS for years and years. Probably why I don't play this cheese-dick game. And when I hear the term "CS pro", I just think "cheating pussy".
You just gotta love people that hate on pros who've spent thousands of hours on this game and blaming them for the toxicity in this already almost dead game.
GrimbeL I have cheated in my past and with a low fov aimbot you don’t lock onto people from that far away. A pro would have to be stupid to use walls without being cautious... If these pros were cheating it is likely they would have been caught by now.
Only part of this I don’t see valid is the “locking” call outs. I don’t see why you would randomly lock into someone if they aren’t in your view. People don’t use lock on buttons for aimbot. If you claim they use smooth aimbot that there is no lock key it’s basically just rcs.
I don't understand the comments. shroud admitted to using cheats. Other pros confirmed pros cheat, forsaken's word.exe and yet people say "pros" don't cheat.
@@solmurphy370 No dude,1. Shroud made a joke, sorry you didn't catch that...2. I can't recall of pro's saying that other pro's cheat and 3. the only cheater this guy could have proved was cheating, wasn't even in the video (forsaken) so the guy who made the video has no credibility whatsoever when it comes to pro's cheating...All these clips can be explained by game sense and luck. Nothing is blatant...
Nice vid bro, fucking scene is littered.
Thank you man, greatly appreciated coming from you.
Dan M it's because if they would ban en they would lose alot of money because then nobody goes watch tournaments and teams gets fucked up its like doping in ucf lol
Dan M
Always the most braindead people comes with these accusations. I've played CS on and off since 2001 and probably played more then 10k hours in total. I watch alot of my own demos and i do just as much "fishy" stuff as these pros do.
I dont think any player on top teams are cheating now. I doubt they would play on big events with cheat. They have a monthley salary of 10k dollar per month and prize money on that. Why risk it with cheats? Or is Valve protecting them? xD
Maybe in tier 3 people are cheating, to get a chance to get picked up by better teams.
But keep these videos going, it's hilarious for actually good players to watch. The pro's are probably laughing their asses off.
I'm not saying they are cheating. but isnt your argument about their salaries a good argument FOR cheating. If youre getting payed that much wouldnt you want to continue to get paid that much or even increase your pay? its a short carreer so i dont think your argument holds up. that being said, im on the fence about weather they cheat or not
kinda agree. anyway tho, the comments will look like this "you're a silver noob, they're not cheating, you don't know anything, etc..". because seeing most of those fuckers flicking on the enemy's head isn't enough proof for them..
HasheD Get the fuck out silver.. Wgen you are higher then MGE you should watch your own demo... you look at enemys aswell its just crosshairplacement some of the clips are fishy but some others is only random stuff that happens when you play.
HasheD fuck outta here noob, look at your highlights and you can see sometimes you accidentally look to someone through a smoke or a wall, but you are a noob you probably dont have any highlights to look at, smh
物語の幸福 So one pro player did something wrong and everyone else has to be hacking ? So just becouse Hitler every other german is a Nazi? get some logic pls
HasheD agree, there are too many accidental fliks😂 hate cheaters.
amongst us good players we call that crosshair placement
*word.exe* sorry forsaken
Forsaken is trash. That whole team was pathetic. OG needs to separate themselves from that bullshit.
No shit. 👍
i didnt comment this to make a conversation i did it because the article of forsaken cheating came out
zebusq lol
zebusq why sorry
I had to do a project for school and i had to do it in word , i did not have word so my friend forsaken gave it to me he is a good man , idk why but now my aim is better in csgo is this happening because im a good student and i do my homework ? dunno...
Yeah u are really a good student
Give a hi to ur friend forsaken frm me
I just installed the word.exe(forsaken version),it improved my project alot
@@天堂毒撚 yes same bro
My aim is legendary in csgo
Now i think im pro
I can go to tournament
Xd
@@天堂毒撚
one of the better cheat accusation vids out there. i cant wait till the major in atlanta, ill get to see the cheaters live
Berx agreed
FireFromHell no you cant lol, in the demo he didnt even do any damage
Ethan Marsingill them why the hell has my friend got a kill through there
So why did he switch mouses lol
Dude he was way in the corner and not peeking how could he have seen any gun and you cant wallbang unless they are near the corner
The first Shox on doors at long isn’t hacking, it’s a lan trick that pros use at LAN they shake their mouse at a wall so if someone’s there the crowd will make noise but if they don’t make noise they know no ones near there
Angelo PeBenito I mean that's a dirty way to play
Alfie Preston shroud and nothing used to use it a lot
JAckass Then they're playing dirty, I'm glad they soundproofed it but there's probably other ways
That's still kinda cheating
Angelo PeBenito it aims on the head directly.
2:20 u can clearly see hes gun...
@soon TM säkäl? idiootti
clear as day
@soon TM herää
Suurin osa Crosshair placementtiä ja peliälyä ei saatana pojat on typeriä
Also maybe Byali heard him
Its just Clara
S Plane lol
That bitch, i told her not to put these stuff in my computer again!
*calls Clara
1 TAP clara what the fuck
Jajaja
Update : forsaken caught cheating
@Scottish Fold so it's ok tk cheat?
@@anupamdas4190 It's not ok to cheat... everyting in current century is faked so peoples have some fun but yes they hack not big suprise like in other sports where they get paid to lose or win match.
Broke my heart. Sad to see some of my favourite pros with such blatant evidence.
man, every good person gets accused for hackin, even i a dmg have some pretty vacy mments, just remember that these pros have played so many matches, and sometime something wierd happens, that is just how it is, and also GOTV isn't the most exact representation of the ingame. if you want i can link you a video showing this.
Yeah, but still, some of these guys have some REALLY blatant moments, and KQLY was one of my favorites back in the day.
You can always pick those few from thousands of hours of footage because these guys play that much and fuck it, sometimes running jumping headshots happen because you are lucky, these vids also record in a worse tickrate than the actual game so crosshair may seem like it jumped in 1 instant but actually it was just a fast movement with the mouse and not aimlock. Those who accuse 90% of pro players with cheating just can't imagine someone getting that good in the game and are just bitter. I know pros in real life, seen them play and that is sick what they can do with that much energy put into that game...
"How would they hack in a LAN?"
th-cam.com/video/YWYpeB3srVM/w-d-xo.html
"They get extremely lucky with theses."
th-cam.com/video/YWYpeB3srVM/w-d-xo.html
Yeah just luck, no blatant hacking there
well, i could tell you you dont even need a mouse or anything..
There are cheats out there, or at least were presented to the public, which you had to buy a phone off the cheat-creators because that phone had like External Radar or they could even vibrate when you were aiming through a wall and an enemy was just on you crosshair .. thats the shit m8.. srsly.. never hacked but know how the "underworld of hacking" is functioning...
Interesting especially the mouse change.
Bruh, he felt uncomfortable with the mouse from the event and wanted to play his old used mouse, he went even 0.5 kd
Even more interesting :)
Exactly. Denis is probably one of the worst players out there in the pro scene, how the fuck would he be cheating?
most players cheat to get information, aim lock works as a wallhack, so they just choose the 'worst' player on they team, they let him do this for info and the rest just plays well, most pro teams have 1 suspicious cheater or scout however u call it, why dont people belive in cheatin on pro scene, its been hapening everywhere where the money is included, sport, olimpics, poltics, esport is getting bigger and bigger, more sponsors are coming, they make a living out of it so they just take the risk, think about it
I dont think that anyone in the pro scene is cheating !!!right now!!!, as moe said, since the first bans of pros came out, the scene got bigger and cheaters get even more punished, back then u just flew out of the team, now you breaking contracts, you have to pay afterwards and arent allowed to play in esports again, thats just too much to lose for such a high risk
The answer is simple. Incorporate a mouse cam on each system and when accused compare mouse movements to shady timestamps in majors or other big lan events. Sometimes you just need an unorthodox approach..
this would be great
The problem is that the tournament organizers don't care. They probably know or at least suspect that people cheat, but they would rather leave it like this. What do you think would happen with the csgo scene if a known player was caught cheating? A lot of people would simply move away, or worse yet, would side with the pro player and accuse the tournament organizers of witch hunting
The thing is, it is so easy. So why dont they do it. Answer, if nobody cheats, there will be no more impossible flickshots, no more incredieble come backs, no more insane, how did he know, episodes in the game. It would just be a regular cs:go match, and who would like to see that
@@bobbongx8785 very true
@@bobbongx8785 great quote bob!!
It's still astonishing to me that people think by saying "he's a flick shooter" can automatically explain how to catch and hold their cross hair over someone's head through the walls. Amazing.
The Shox part is my favorite. When Shroud comes through long doors he knows someome is pushing so he uses the crowd to be sure. Its not an aim lock its a sense of a little humor and 200 IQ
exactly - shroud even explains this on one of his streams
yes but what about the other actions ? =)
If you would play 10 hours a day I'm sure one or two of your flicks would be on the enemy player's head
Which other Shroud actions are you referring to?
no need to play 10hrs a day to see that it's not normal to get the crosshair on the head throw the wall like that... trust me, i know what i'm talkin about ;)
i miss the old times where cheating was almost non existing in competitive games like UT99 and Quake 3 Arena. CS is swarmed with cheaters, even in eSports because of Money. They know it, their sponsors know it and Valve knows it. And yet they still are allowed to play, no one gets busted. The VAC ban wave only gets the "small fish". The big ones will never get caught, unless Volvo grows an extra set of balls and makes VAC more intrusive, a new banning system like Overwatch (the game from blizzard) and 0 tolerance policy. Even if it would mean to kill off 85% of the eSport.
said it like a true gamer. breaks my heart the love i have for this game yet i know it's full of cheaters and i'll never be pro anyway so why do i bother.
+iRuffy
cool story bro, now watch the video again but this time with Sound On.
Umh i could only hear music that was quite quiet in the backround, no ingame sounds :/
you know that there is actual VOICE @2:30?
I MEANT THE GAMEPLAY ya know?
It's really sad that cheating is so common in CSGO. Legit players stand no chance against these "pros".
Bunch of kids disliking the video cause they believe in godlike playing of some pros. They are cheating, and that is the truth. There is a million dollar pool for reward, they all want it, and sure, there will be fair players, but also, there will be cheaters. You have the proof in front of you.
Some where a good proof, like flusha aimlocking on dust2, but some where just lazy accusations like k0nfig spraying with the deagle on cache.
If u guys rly woulda know the truth about competitive gaming u all woulda stop playing any game xD i will tell u, i played on Console Call of duty with a neighbour of me, he played like a cheater but i visited him to play together, same monitor same Console, on his screen everything is super smooth, we had same Mouse Sensivity, /Controller, the contrast which was clearly different than mine was on his screen soooo perfect i was like wtf this is how a game should look like, Big fat and white Contrast without any pixels or weird Overall Screen, Just try to watch a pro gamer on twitch which has his camera direct to his Monitor so u can see the difference, u guys never thougt: wow how can it be so ez for them they have like 3 sec time to aim no enemy looks like good, while if i play on rank LEM allmost every enemie looks and shoots directly at me before i can even react :) ez game thats why they play on lan
Nope because SOME players are not hacking ! if you are not global then dont make these kind of videos because you dont know how pro's play so learn to play y'all
Adem Rama u dont get it, global Players are not that good, they just have it easier to play compared to many other Player, u never saw a Player with 3k hours sitting on Eagle? dude wake up
Adem Rama even being GE is not something that will make you a godlike player... It is only a broken rank system where scrubs get carried to smfc/ge by buddies...
What we need is a cheater to get into the pro scene, make it big and then intentional show how easy it was and that Valve need to step their game up.
5 years later and the whole scene is filled with cheaters.
@@cflmotorsports1827 Just gotta wait for that AI Anti-Cheat. ;)
Valve is in on it...
So sad to see the pro scene going in this direction. The people I once looked up to are the ones I cant even look at anymore. Discraceful
Eclipze they dont cheat. its just luck. just look at the demos of your own matches you will notice that you look into the enemy through walls alot
"turning 180 and shoots through a fcking wall" yeah, luck ahaha
Most of my aims are through the corners because I preemptively aim certain angles which also includes predicting headshots. I also aim through the walls whenever I hear something to pinpoint the sound better - 100% normal. I am not even going to mention odd shots and misfires, which do happen at times, too.
The only sketchy thing I witnessed was the mouse switch. The rest was basically a statistical probability that sometimes correcting one's hand position and other random movements to constitute towards odd scenarios to the observing parties.
Also in less stressful situations I tend to predict through walls without hearing anything and contemplate quickly whether there is a chance for someone to use such a location as a method of approach. If I was the center of attention as a pro player enough material would surface over time making people question my legitimacy. Yada-yada.
^Gonna agree with you. When I have to check corners, I move my cursor to wall first and then peek. Sometimes the enemy gives away footsteps sound which can be clearly heard and you can bang through wall.
Its all about money my friend. They should go to Jail for cheating at Tournaments, they win a huge amount of money..
The Shox play, i think it's so he can hear the crowd saying something so he knows there is an enemy
Also hes Probaly looking for sound cues
You can barely hear the croud with earbuds and noisecanceling headphones also he locked right onto his head I dont think thats a coincidence
@@maxandmols9526 arent you supposed to hear for sound cues and not lock onto them and then proceed to look at a wall?
Flumsy false, you can clearly hear them
@@bsapavel6880 so that means you aim at their head through the wall with 100% accuracy?
Shox shakes his screen for audience reactions. Which is why esports use sound proof glass.
[TM] Nickoras I can second this.
That's why they sat openly in the arena without any glass on the boston major 2018.
That fact wih the glass is not true. But they use noice canceling headphones
[TM] Nickoras no matter how soundproof it is, the roar will always overcome
Soundproof glass and closed back headsets will deafen the crowd.
@andrew cant really do anything about it
As the pros look at walls or smokes. The crowd gets louder which tells them if there's someone there.....
kind of true but doesnt explain the clips in the video
Ashe Ketchup shroud has said it on stream an still this doesnt explain these shit on the video
Ashe Ketchup idk most of the people and the fishy crap people dug out of clips but what I do know for a fact is that Subroza is cheating. It’s so obvious. However, many clips, if you slow it down enough, it just looks like aimbot because many people aim always headshot level, and as they look around their crosshair may go over an enemy head :/
Guys one or two are maybe hackin but thoses guys have the highest level of shot and crosshair placement in the world takin one or 2 clips on 50 games where he aim at the head through the door is just idiot
Even if that is true, it doesn't explain how the scope moves so perfectly right at the head... it's so obivous.
ofc its not enough proof if it happens one or two times. I could go through 5 of my own demos and i would be able to make a video accusing me of cheating becuase it happens that you run out of mouseppad space or cant turn your mouse anymore and then you just happen to look at an enemy. And maybe you dont have any game sense because a lot of pros are sometimes looking through walls at people when they have the info that they are there. And as those players are the best in the world they sometimes imitate the movement you get off of aimlock for fun. You can watch a few videos where maikelele does it or shroud or stewie or get right or olof when they are streaming.
EDIT : And for everyone saying that some pros have fishy moments other pros dont have, everyone could get a few 16 tick demos maybe slow them down some ticks so its really bad quality and very choppy or just leave it at 16 ticks and then everyone could make a video of any pro after maybe searching through 3-8 demos and make a "FISHY COMPILATION; THIS PRO IS DEFINITELY CHEATING" video
EDIT2: I saw some People say that the whole pro scene is fixed and thats why you cant become pro, if you are by chance living in germany or have 3 german friends that are over the age of 16 you can start your team in the german 99damge league and if you are good enough and in one of the first tiers you can easily qualify for the esl.
Some of you dont seem to know that anyone can qualify for the esl if he goes through the qualifier. But if you try that and lose pls dont call your enemies hackers everyone who thinks that anyone who is better than them is hacking is just a sore loser.
EDIT3: If you just say that the pro scene is fixed and thats why you cant get into the pro scene and they are only hitting shots because they are cheating you clearly arent a very good player and may think that everyone above supreme level is a hacker because they are hitting many shots and would 16-0 someone who is 2 ranks lower.
so do it. make a Video of ur Demos.... ur so fucking blind if u rly think this Scenes are legit... especially the 12 bullet lock. he did that more then once
1988antenne Just play more cs then u can Comment. How many hours you have? if u saying some bullshits xd
Norbert Szablikowski I played 30 hours+ , it is full of cheaters
30 hours is nothing.
Dan Allan why? I can spot cheater izi
Dude all pro cs player use cheats. Even valve obligate them to use it.
Fallen uses cheats, Fer, ColdZera(used in past), S1mple, Monezy or whatever is nickname is(thats why he find those bugs so easily), JW, Olof, Flusha, KennyS, Guardian, Zywoo, Hiro, Shourd, PashaBiceps, old NinjaInPijamas, F0rest, Get_Right, and many more.
Counter-Strike industry is build the same way has WWE. To fake the reality and to entertain whos watching them. Valve isnt able to build any anti-cheat that ban cheaters because if it happen, all pro players would be automaticaly vac-ban and the community+game will become a huge joke and loose all credibility.
Only easy manipulated people actually believe that cs pro-players dont cheat and they have skills.
Cs community lives on top a huge lie and fake game with so much stuff hide inside valve tournament wall, just to suck young kids, young adults and some childish aldults money with skins and cases.
All teams and star pro-players are early choosen by Valve members before each match/tournement end and they made all thing believel just for fools believe that it is genuine and honest.
Soon all will be revealed and they would need to close the game for good.
But people only will believe in my words when things start going messy.
i believe you
Couldnt say it better. Love cs but the game needs to die and reborn
Wait, this was reposted in January 3 months too early to be an April fool's joke...
I agree with your video, even some people who are see this great video montage, they are blinded. Bad for they, it's so obvious when they mouse target are shaking, or like in min 5:38 when Subroza it's aiming automatically at enemy without to see the enemy while actually he shoot on other player....boom suddently aiming to his back. From me it's a GREAT VIDEO and i support you. Valve are developing "thousands" of games but they scope is to get the money, and that is. If in a 21 century world you cannot stop an cheater to cheat in your own game it's very comic situation. In what era are we living? when you need help of players to SENT REPORT of a cheater??? Or what we are talking in 2017 AD? I think just this: "Why Valve to stop cheaters, they just ban some accounts who are reported, and they get pretty good money for another account buyed." It's so frustrating that some honest people buy this game and they cannot play honestly because of Valve, and the cheater. Remember that the guilty is always Valve and then cheaters.
So you're saying, that it doesnt matter that they played 10s of thousands of hours and could've accidently flick onto something? Also, professionals are very aware of their surroundings so they're always checking things, even if they hear the slightest noise. And at lan parties they cant download cheats so, the ones on lan parties are wrong, and adreN said that you cant use your mobile in LAN parties either so...
By the way, look at a clip from a tournament, you see pros looking at walls, its just unlucky, and at 4:45, he was just looking at the pole ready for someone to peak.
its not an accident sometimes and they dont ALWAYS do it just sometimes or you know like in 1 map or something but yes some are excusable because we dont have the full in game volume that they might or some other coincidental reason. But i think that yes some pros are def cheating and theyre on the best teams too
the fnx clip is the least suspicious imo. It looks like cheats though. As you said pros play 10000+ hours of cs which means they have alot of time to practice hiding their cheats ;D
Tell me, just tell me how they cheat without downloading anything.
And no, im saying in tens of thousands of hours they may have looked at someones head through the wall accidentaly, and yes, I agree with you some of those were suspicious, but lots of them werent.
They seriously need an A.I that looks for players if they aimlock to other players through wall. Without having direct sight first.
And im sure 90% of pro players will get banned lol.
They already have it.
Its called VAC
You definitely know more about CS:GO compared to Valve.
And how would the ai know the difference between a spray and an aimlock? And do you know how hard it is to program that stuff lmao.
VAC is probably as useful as windows firewall
I like how the list isn’t even in the description.
On 2:30 u can actually see ak47 so its obvious guys is there..
2:19 if u play it on 0.25 speed
good catch. i didn't notice that.
sure the guy is obviously there, but that doesn't explain the instant snap to the head while the guy is still behind a wall where he could have been standing somewhere else. the instant headshot proves me that he was hacking.
xCapt'n Shini If you play for hours you will remember the headshot level and that is why he locked into the possible spot his enemy will be
its bc he want wiews obviolousy they r not cheating
3:19 you dare oppose my mortal
Im sorry man but he most def was cheating back then in CS. Just watch the concept on TH-cam. You cannot deny it man
Circling the mouse at a wall is a genuine strat/troll. Crowds can get unbelievably loud so if you move your crosshair at a wall and you hear the audience react there is a pretty good chance someone is there. As for the rest of the clips... they are just that... clips. Several seconds out of a pros cs career. Most of these players have well over 5-6 thousand hours in this game. Of course sketchy shit will happen. Im certain that if ANYONE reading this were to watch a single one of their matches back with xray on they would, at some point, see something that looks sus. Another thing people seem to forget is there is an entire team of professional callouts going through their ears the whole match. Innocence until proven guilty... like forsaken :p
1:25 i think he fast checks the sandbags so one one pops-out of them and kills him from behind. :P
everyone would do the same, it's so cringy to see people tell some pros cheat, of course, some of them cheat but not all... subrosa...
only subroza looked obvious. Rest of players were just doing casual things lol
u cant be serious about going around pointing out cheaters in a pro level with 100% sure. These players never got banned. I have my suspicions as well but u got some wtf clips here that show that u dont have mutch knowledge in this game.
I'm not saying their cheating but a lot of cheats are updated almost every day to bypass VAC.
These clips could be coincidences, but VAC sucks dick and cheaters can get away easily.
Vac don't do shit, look at the free to play scene lol. Its pretty much a hacker's playground
Why u talking about vac when everybody knows that pro matches have separate anti cheat clients...
All of these are cheating almost 50% of players in major matches cheat to get the money its sad
lmao people sound so dumb when they accuse people of aim-locking when preparing for a flash
As said in the end aimlocks purpose is not to make you shoot better, but to give info where the enemy is. But I know you didn't watch the whole video, just close your eyes and say nothing is wrong in the scene.
Preparing for a flash?
When RANDOMLY aiming DIRECTLY at the head in middle on a WALL where NOBODY of the enemy team was?
TWICE?! Comon dude.
My favorite was when the guy snapped to and shot the head of one guy (through the wall) then snapped to second players head (also behind a wall), fired off another round then pulled to the left and paused because he was like "Oh crap, did anyone see that?"
I love how every csgo fanboy cannot accept his favorite famous team/player being a cheater and just denies everything while it's so obvious
No good cheat will lock on thru walls with the legitbot are you retarded?
@@Jared-by8oqobv he is 😂
Great fucking exposing video, I hit that thumbs up.
I thought my eyes were having problems since I saw Shroud and a whole bunch of so called "cheaters" on the video, and then I checked the comment section. Lovely.
scream flicks to heads all the time he isn't cheating haha. he does it live on twitch and plays the same if not better. I don't think cheating is determined from game sense that's called thousands of hours in a game experience and predictable plays. silvers don't play the same as a higher rank. higher ranks usually have set plans for certain situations. now there are stand ins that get vac banned because there using scripts but in the finals they monitor shit closer than yall think that's why there equipment is given to them and u cant just bring ur own to use
The pro scene is even worse now. Robotic aim and shakes from every player, even the famously BAD aimers and IGLs. They don't use it just for info.
Valve and organizers have no incentive to catch them as more highlights and epic games = more revenue.
Poor denis he really looks sad and concerned when swapping mouse lol
Its a god Video. sad that so many players are cheating. i dont think olof is cheating until i see it tho
Frank yeah so sad :|
You're probably just saying that cause you like olof.
hahah what made you think of that....genius xD
***** cause everyone and olof is equally mentioned, but you especially exempt him even though, as mentioned earlier, they're all equally mentioned by the ex-professional player that got banned for cheating.
wow dude i was ironic xD hahahha wasnt that obvius
0:18 people call that gamesense? How the hell is locking onto people through walls and shooting straight on their head gamesense, because a pro did it?
Aaron Muck its years of practis
pros 100% were hacking but i don't think so now
Exode The mouse switch was really fishy, but I still believe that a lot of pros cheat, from Flusha locking onto people through smoke and walls in places that aren't pre aim spots, to pros getting banned mid game.
Ryanthekid123 can you give me a list of all the hundreds of pros that were "hacking"
when did i say hundreds
im rewatching this already 1000th times , i never get bored of it
Ye cuz it's very stupid to actually think they are cheating
Update: No players in this video were cheating except the ones who were obvious and caught.
Aleyz ikr. This guys that made this vid kimda dumb af
Agree
So basically they don't cheat unless it's way too obvious?
2:20 u could see his pistol
The aim was locked on the head, also the guy locked his aim 2 times before.
Inside the mind of a silver 4
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6:55 is the best part of the video and i clearly see someone hacking
Evangeline Arbon lol noob just accept the fact that there were cheaters in this video
@@kingeling lol you're just jealous cuz they are better than you idiot noob
Now you're acting that every pro cheats, like wtf is your problem
2:04 2nd lock: he was looked at the door :v. 3rd lock: I saw his barrel :vvv
Pacman = retraso
Everyone looks like their hacking when it’s slow mo
And the demos are 32 tick in some of these clips, which makes 64/128 tick gameplay look suspicious because there is less information in the replay.
*word.exe*
Lmao he named it word.exe. from all the things like...Curry
@@cxtx what's curry ?
@@tayahangysl7751 some Indian food
@@cxtx Curry is not a food it's similar to sauce fyi , love from india
@@kanishkdinkar5925 oh yeah I forgot sorry, I'm not indian
5:39 this clip is easily explained. Subroza heard a drop from Tetris so flicked toward the sound. I’m silver 2 and I can see this... what’s this guys rank? Soggy Cardboard 1???
are you dumb? oh no you are silver 2. He turned before he even dropped down.
He didn't even drop dpwn and he already aimed on him plus he was shooting uy in front of him and mid fight flicked back to guy behind him that's just stupid
@@doomixVAL do You think he was flying?
@@m4rk0b0y no he jumped but as this dude said he heard him mid-air do you think he's jesus or what?
@@triplesixpluggin very true...but even the movement was too smooth...his aim goes only one direction....left....no handshake no aiming up or down....that's how bots are aiming ....
You’re pretty dumb to think some of these guys are cheating. Guys have been playing for 10+ years in a game where mouse placement is everything
Pros are kinda playing a different game and u either accept it or stop watching
Im still kinda curious how would clean game between the world best look like but i doubt we'l see that again ..too much money
*Pros practice so Hard in there entire career*
community:*publish a video they hack
Pros:Am i Joke to you?
Lol
Finally a video where i can see the guys mouse, he says words clearly and actually SHOWS how to open stuf like the soft roll instead of
my man s1mple never been caught cheating
are you shure about that?
i couldn't believe it too when i read this just 10 minutes ago because i kinda like him.
wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Banned_players
Look at 2014-02-01 or just type his name in ctrl+f
He was cheating, I'm not sure sure about today though.
At 4:50 he is just holding the angle and pre aiming for his peek he knows exactly where the enemy is probably through a sound que.
DA LIL OCP the snap is irregular. That’s the main point, doesn’t matter how long you’ve played, the snap directly to his head isn’t pre-aim lmao... There are players in GE that don’t even pre-aim that well
New name for this video: "when silver's call hacks."
If i had a case in overwatch with all these moments just in one game i'd be 100% sure that player is cheating. but when we are talking about several issues per player in more than 5 years of career here comes the law of large numbers that states: "the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed". Pro's playing dozens of games, bo5, bo3, rounds and they get thru so many situations and with each they are getting closer and closer to the moment, which will be determined as suspecious. Thats just probability theory. But you know, im pretty sure that there were players who has played with cheats and i'm sure there will be more. But the trick is, we will never know whether it was just a tick of probability or pure cheats untill they'll be officially banned by valve. Many of us, common players, have experienced a moment or few when you actually said to yourself: "OMG, IM GONNA GET BANNED FOR WHAT I JUST DID!!!", but after that you only concider yourself as a good player. think about it.
btw HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Cheers
Mate that guy wasn’t cheating he just heard him lmaooooo
you s1?
Maybe the hosts of the majors should be required to provide the equipment?
you do realize that they are not using there own pc's right just moused keyboards and headsets
yes but the whole point of the video is that the hacks can be stored in the mouse and used undetected.
+Brandon Burns you do realize that you can macro a hack into your mouse right?
there is even a clip here on youtube proving this
supplied computer, mouse and keyboard, with any access ports blocked off.......its the only way, when you are talking the money these guys are on for a win they are going to try and get every possible advantage and cant be trusted. level the playing field......then its 100% down to skill and luck
This is exactly what I suspected, you cannot rank up or become a pro gamer without hacking it is that simple.
Only because there are so many cheaters, if there weren't any then that wouldn't be the case.
@@ChronoWarrior1996 What do you mean?
If everyone is cheating, honest players are just going to be lower ranked because even with pro reflexes, you can't see though walls or auto lock so that split second in human reaction time vs the aimbot's reaction time makes a huge difference
Actually you are wrong, I ranked up so many times and I'm pretty sure I'm not cheating...Look at gold nova and silver ranks, no one is good, no one plays with strats so you can't predict people, in higher ranks people start getting predictable, that's why you see pro's knowing what the other teams are doing...
@@dillonferreira3529 yeye ye ye what ever you say mate I am literally gaming all the time and still silver, because of toxicity and hacking check my latest live stream of counter strike source you, will see how well I play. I do not see you posting vids on this game, then again recently recording software's do not work because valve tried to stop the hackers from hacking only to fail. LOL just goes to show you that the criminals are always one step ahead.
probs made by some nova 3 who cant get out of nova xDDD
I'm guessing silver elite
its ok kid. i know you want to believe. keep believing broh. believe in anything you want.
As a gn3 with trash aim pertually trapped even im not this level of salty
"" *Forshaken entered the chat with proud* ""
Wtf haaha
Noob is not the player who can't play well... Noob is who refuses to play
well(without cheat)!
If forsaken can go so far with his silver game knowledge I wouldn't be surprised if these players did too.
In CS:GO they assume you don't use cheat and look for reasons to justify certain behaviour and when you question those things you somehow become a "HATER"
Omg they hacking, for sure!! All must be banned
@Charles-Antoine Cusson no that's Allu
@YexaC 100% correct. Literally these "PRO" players brainwashing little csgo fanboys so they can dropped their jaw and say woooowwww. I've been trying to shoot like these "pro" it never works, then i download some aimlock crap now it's 100% confirmed i can shoot like them. dirty business. even female gamers in "pro" scene of csgo looks like a pornstars, i never seen big fat ugly obese girl in those scene, all look like a pornstar, prolly doing orgy with GABE for their fame and fanbase boost, or banging valve empolyees and all these esports upper jew. i never believe these pro since 1.6 era. coz their aiming, how they lock into enemies are unatural and mostly impossible to be implemented.
@@ulyanaademovich8352 omg ever thought of being a comedian
@@ulyanaademovich8352 what the fuck are you talking about?
This looks like some 36 year old trying to tell me vaccines cause autism and the earth is flat.
hahahahah the ignorance in comments... trying to defend their fav. player... :D get real guys... cheating is real thing... i think simple and electronic are also cheating, where can i download demo files to check pro matches?
HLTV has them I think
If simple cheats, why did he protest his unfair advantage when he saw the reflection of the minimap on the main stage?
@@swank8508 if you were cheating, will you say you're cheating or you pretend to be not cheating?
@@rayeeeeeeeeeee a cheater looks for every advantage he can, but an honest pro will throw a cz to give away his position becauase the crowd helped him
cavestory77 toxic melee fan they’re not cheating lol, this video is 1 of a million clips of these players but it’d be impossible to not have a single clip where it doesn’t look like you’re cheating
the shot from old mirage could just be random luck my dude, he was still shooting and the spray randomly shot the player
the one from byali on cache, you could have seen the enemy's barrel
Now we have the COD scene cheating too. Online gaming has died.
Shroud is innocent 100% talent and his aim is just godlike
No his aim like shit and not good at cs go pro
He is really choke, but hes quite good in stream and reddit
@@wantanabecsgo10there is a video exposing him for cheats
Non tatcical salty silvers incoming
derfliegendetempler you spelt tactical wrong
Social Critics senpai Yes, As an MG1 I also lock my crosshair to where my enemy is behind the wall
... mg1 low ranked af
IncrediBle Not my point, and MG1 is above average, Im just saying, that I wouldnt, and neither of my non cheating friends would lock on to somebody through smoke or wall, for a couple seconds, Im not saying all of the clips are hacks tho, some are legit
they are all legit stfu u never played esl of your like they use mose and wire so one just screen shot your screen every 20 sec so thats why you can be shure they don't use wh and the other one keep traking of the value in game and lock on someone is basic coding that affect value of the game the only way to bypass wire is to use another computer and make a fake session or to make it crash BUT in esl computer you can't make a fake session and you can't make it crash so the only thing you can do is like they say hide a mouse with script in it on your pocket but you also get gaught so no they don't cheat at all thats why everyone is calling the channel owner silver bot players . also mg1 isn't above anything is lazy guys because even lem player don't even play well (am global by the way ) so realy stop i used to play on another game called sf2 and i did win competition and go to semi final of a major i know exactly why you can't cheat
1:39 ayy lmao
When pro’s shake their mouse like that they want to show the audience they know where the enemy is, possibly because they made noice or they got info of their team, and maybe even because they know because they have incredible game sense
These actually happen when Clara needs to type something in word or do such shit :/
No way Flusha will cheat
Say sike rn
He was finally caught?
@@Hoos No, and don't get your hopes up, cuz he probably not cheating...
3:58 did he get caught
GRINC H no he’s not cheating this guy just put the footage conveniently to make it look like he is, this video is literally a bunch of bullshit
@@andresgarcia346 What? He fucking switched the mouse are seeing something else ?
@@wotizlove thats not CHEATING..
Also HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU INSTALL CHEATS IN A MOUSE!!!
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN
Jesus fuck 20k for a shitty ass aimbot? Sign me in
Shroud is the only legit one
Get_Right isn't cheating
Or he is the only competitive CSGO player you know
@@wc7618 Make that 1% if they were cheating and they have been in a major they would've been VAC banned already
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
no one cheats in the league currently your life would be fucked if you ever got caught
do you really think they get away with walling at LAN? alot of crew people walk behind theem 'n such
He's an idiot
stupid`? they dont use Wallhack like all these noob hackers in csgo. they use the aimlock to spot enemys. u cant see a silent aimer
@@xs1xs1 you can see a silent aimer easily, its only silent on your monitor but for those spectating the aimlock is obvious.
There is no problem to cheating on lan in 2019 dude..
@@ulyanaademovich8352 WTF so why u call me idiot if even u know that :D U bastard i said there is no problem to cheating as a pro on lan now :D whole astralis is example for that
Still dont know wether its sarcastic or not but just to clarify... thats what you call game sense
I know right
Seriously? Shroud is just born with talent my man, its like being the 9yr old kid in every competitive who complains about players being hacker but they are actually good.
But shroud , He is a pro not hacker if he saw a hacker he will ke her.
Noobs think about that how could you kill a hacker when he knows your position and his bot is on , use your brain , you can fluke one time , you can't kill hacker every time ... Think about it when you know your enemy position and your aimbot is on than party for you ... if shroud is killing a hacker that mean hacker kills hacker ... hacker knows where enemies are but how shroud knows where is that hacker ??? He always knows where enemies are just because he use hacks ... so stop lifting the balls and don't support hacker like him
dumbass
@@GrimbeL fvku
@@utukxul9309 nooonono he 's till my legend.
@@ttttnp9736 nah mate.
Like when he is playing R6s.
He has good aim? Yes, very good.
But he isnt even close to the same thing as what he has done sometimes in cs (on pro level).
Most pros are really good players, they are pro's, but many cheat aswell to get an advantage.
Clearly they heard sounds. After playing for so many hours its what u call a muscle memory. This dude just cant frag so he decided to blame pros to justify himself
i don't think olof use cheat's
Yeah, I've never seen any sus clips from him.
He was after Flusha stopped cheating, after few weeks he was the team leader as well as aimlocker for the team Fnatic with the AWP
ALL of the pros use cheats. just watch 1 match and see for yourself. those preaims through walls and inhuman reactions are so obvious man. wake up. they are almost all cheating, except the few honest individuals. csgo majors are basically HvH competitions.
I think it's probably about 20% (1 per team). I've been playing this game for over 7 years and I can personally tell you that most of the "cheating clips" are just people reading into shit too hard.
7 years of playing and what are you silver ? How come you're not pro ? Don't give me aids answer saying I got a job and school cause nigga gaming would be the best job
That moment when almost 90% of Counter-Strike community doesn't know difference between "Hacker" and "Cheater". It's so annoying...
I thought this vid was just irony and for the laughs but youre actually serious.... this makes me feel really uncomfortable how dumb people can be
Ok so you will probably hate me for this it whenever I wall, I am always surprised at how much I aim onto other people through walls whenever I lift my mouse. It's actually not that uncommon to seemingly 'lock onto' other people through a wall.
I actually think half of these are actually mistakes, (doesn't have hacks)
@Wanted lol
Cheating has been associated with CS for years and years. Probably why I don't play this cheese-dick game. And when I hear the term "CS pro", I just think "cheating pussy".
You just gotta love people that hate on pros who've spent thousands of hours on this game and blaming them for the toxicity in this already almost dead game.
GrimbeL I have cheated in my past and with a low fov aimbot you don’t lock onto people from that far away. A pro would have to be stupid to use walls without being cautious... If these pros were cheating it is likely they would have been caught by now.
@@mcbrownies9242 they can be cheating without directly locking
@@mcbrownies9242 ita not a random paid cheat they could lock on like 14 pxels left of a bone in The model
@@mcbrownies9242 well Forsaken was caught
@@GrimbeL Whose autistic?
out of 100s of hours of pro matches you found 5 minutes worth off (smooth aimlocking)
These people don't get that with the amount of csgo matches these people play, there gonna fuckin hit some insane shot eventually...
EXACTLY
Dillon Ferreira exactly damn, people must be dumb af
@@andresgarcia346 TRUE, PREACH
@@andresgarcia346 DILLION FERREIRA I FORGOT TO CHANGE MY ACCOUNT
*_word.exe_*_ has _*_stopped working_*
Why so many dislikes lmao, good vid
1 or maybe even 2 pros were hacking there lmao
The phone guy was obvious. Everybody suddenly worried.
lol olofmeister?
purple 00 nah watch that do-or-die 1v1 with gla1ve, really fishy watch it in 0.25 speed
olofmeister... The man who climbed overpass and killed the enemies from the sky... Cheater? OMG, career ended for a cheat...
Godarie Demanan any thing can look fishy at that speed
Only part of this I don’t see valid is the “locking” call outs. I don’t see why you would randomly lock into someone if they aren’t in your view. People don’t use lock on buttons for aimbot. If you claim they use smooth aimbot that there is no lock key it’s basically just rcs.
I don't understand the comments. shroud admitted to using cheats. Other pros confirmed pros cheat, forsaken's word.exe and yet people say "pros" don't cheat.
@Avo4Salsa name calling doesn't change facts. dumbass
@@solmurphy370 No dude,1. Shroud made a joke, sorry you didn't catch that...2. I can't recall of pro's saying that other pro's cheat and 3. the only cheater this guy could have proved was cheating, wasn't even in the video (forsaken) so the guy who made the video has no credibility whatsoever when it comes to pro's cheating...All these clips can be explained by game sense and luck. Nothing is blatant...