The Career of Matt Duchene
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- I wanted to do this video first today to clear up any misconception about whether or not I like this player.
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His two highest points per game season were both contract years... huh
mercenary player...no coincidence...
I'm glad Duchene left. That made way for MacKinnon to be a 1st liner, which he earned through rigorous training and tore it up in 2018.
S Choudhry I am also
mackinnon is now the 2nd best player in the nhl
@@teeus766 im an avs fan. No way is he better than Crosby. Can argue for 3rd but even then its up for grabs for a couple people
Dillan I’m not an Avs fan and you’re wrong. MacKinnon is 2nd.
@@fujikokun No. MacKinnon's near future looks better than Crosby's, but right now, Crosby is still the better player.
Carrer of Pierre-Edouard Bellemare would be really interesting. Had a crazy path to becoming one of the best 4th line centers in the league.
At first I thought you said, "I wanted to start today with a buyout." I was startled for a hot minute!
you weren't the only one lol!
He called it
Kinda glad Montreal didn’t get him. Gonna be a hefty contract to pay for probably 5 of the 7 years.
Didn't need him too...bad mix with the locker room and already too many centers...defensemen people...that is what is needed !
Matt "I wanted to play playoff hockey" Duchene? That Matt Duchene?
He was good in the playoffs tho
Riley true.
Riley where’s Jonesy?
Backwoods Baphomet what do you mean?
DUCHENE STILL HAS ZERO RINGS. what a locker room cancer
If Skinner makes 9 and Hayes makes over 7 then Duchene isn’t really overpaid, players are just making more money now. He could definitely hit 70 points again if he doesn’t get injured and gets a good amount of ice time with Forsberg or Arvidsson.
Ahhh...Matt Duchene...the first round pick who started as a franchise center where people said he could have been pick higher, became a selfish player for wanting to play second center in a rebuilding team with MacKinnon, to asshole with the Sens for not wanting to stay in a shit show of an organization who was also his hometown, to mercenary for a round win for Columbus who just wanted a big contract...to overpaid player with Nashville...who might not even need him...Crazy how perceptions can change in a career...Is he really selfish...maybe, too many story to be a complete lie, maybe not as bad as advertise...Overpaid ? Big time for what is pretty much a great second center in a championship team who can change games...when he wants too...which is the point with him...consistency...In the international level, he's great because you don't need him 82 game...in a season, he play when he wants...that remind me so much of Gaborik or Jokinen...Great players, but not elites because of consistency... Perso i would have try to restart Kyle Turris instead...also i really didn't want him in Montreal, a bad fit all around for a young team needing leaders and developpement with enough center to work with...hated the rumors about him...time to show what he can do !
Avs never built around Duchene and always traded away significant pieces to the core during his tenure. Anderson for Elliott after Andy's huge year, then Elliott signs in STL and has MVP seasons. Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson the literal next day seems like a win now but at the time Chris Stewart was raging it with Paul Stastny, and Shattenkirk was pretty good for a long time. Didn't have a goalie so we traded picks for Varlamov.
I think overall when the Avs drafted MacKinnon instead of Seth Jones at the time it pissed off all our forwards. Duchene had already taken a discount to play and be at camp, but watched ROR pull the offer-sheet stuff and ultimately make more 3M in more money. *edit: if we just take the picks from Calgary that's Sean Monahan.
Avs signed Iginla at 5.3M instead of bringing back Stastny at 7M, plus lost ROR via trade the off-season after Roy/MacKinnon's year one. Like even now if we would have just dished out 1.7M extra towards Stastny instead of Iginla it's possible we'd still have him too, and it's not like anyone would have said that was a bad move then either...but instead we lost Stastny and ROR and everyone expected us to be better.
The thing I'm most interested to see is how he rages in Nashville while actually having teammates. Like Forsberg, who was the Avs pick traded to Washington for Varlamov during Duchene's tenure. And then never put a defense in front of Varly so he was always injured when it counted too.
It's not that the Avs have had trouble drafting talent. They just had trouble keeping it while Greg Sherman was saving money and trying to acquire more picks.
Its about time someone tell it the way it is i f%*$&ng hate when people say it was dutchys fault holy shit the had no defence and traded every talent they ever got, but now duchene will have some talent on his wings not just the next guy up from AHL
Easily the most overrated player of the last decade
New to the nhl bud?
Auston Matthews What does this even mean
Eh, id say Seguin
@@looper451 plenty of other overrated players, duchene has never had a 1st line quality, except maybe with ottawa.
Nylander cough cough...but yeah...
Anyone else love the new Carolina away jersey?
Love the jersey design but I've always preferred the logo to the font on the front.
nope
As a canes fan, I’m not impressed.
This year I'm going to be watching Nashville and New Jersey more than normal. Interested to see how those two do. You could argue that this is Nashville's last great chance - what with Pekka nearly done.
reignofrock I honestly think Pekka will sign a 1 year contract and play backup next season. I could always be wrong, but if Nashville is still in cup contention, I don’t see Peks hanging his pads up just yet.
The 2 year extension made it where he could be a UFA prior to Seattle entering the league. That made it where Nashville wouldn’t have to choose between exposing Rinne or Saros.
th-cam.com/video/xVdfesF82AE/w-d-xo.html Still my favorite goal of Duchene's career. What a beauty!
That was a pretty sick goal.
Notification squad!
Keep up the great work Shannon! Youre amazing
I miss the guy sometimes, but I really like the new era of Avalanche hockey.
@@pilotamurorei And O'Reilly for a bit at least they have Kadri now.
As a CBJ fan I was disappointed in Duchene.. I liked him as a person and felt like he was good in the locker room, but he was not the playmaker I thought he was. He was quite underwhelming even when playin with Panarin and Atkinson (40 goal scorer)
What did you expect ? It was his mercenary year...you got what you paid for, a player playing for a contract...also what a price to pay...no futur picks this year will hurt your prospect pool. good luck ! You can do better !
Duchene was amazing in the playoffs which is where it counts. 10 points in 10 games. He played great when it mattered the most. He was the leading scorer in the series against Tampa.... I honestly don't know what more you could ask for.
All the talent in the world, just has some bad luck at times, and unmotivated can be miserable to watch and has shown that he struggles to adapt to a new system at first
Bingo. He had a slow start after his trade to Ottawa, but lit it up after he settled in. Same thing in Columbus, where he struggled early on, but then had a great point-a-game playoff run. Starting the season after a full training camp and preseason in Nashville, he could have a career year.
Jim King agreed, but in my humble opinion I don’t see duchene as a super star/consistent game changer, he’s got the talent, but for his benefit there won’t be nearly as much pressure as there was in Ottawa and in some sense Columbus, but he proved us wrong in the playoffs, can he do it again is the real question
Matt Douchene
Kinda funny that Nashville's #1/#2 Centers both played in Columbus.
Sonic Boom and #2/#3 centers both played for Ottawa.
The Aves mgnt made a big mistake with Duchene. They got caught up in his contract years on the bridge deal and made him the cornerstone. They put his contract at the top and felt they could everyone else less for a few years. Remember O'Reilly came from the same draft. He got the big bridge deal when they matched the offer sheet for his bridge deal. When the bridge deals were up they overvalued Duchene and undervalued O'Reilly. O'Reilly was and is the factor, Duchene not so much. This led to trading O'Reilly, the better leader. By then Landy became the captain but that couldn't make up for loosing the factor. Duchene just isn't mentally strong enough, even with his skills. He may well succeed with Nashville because the town suits him and the team has leadership. Happiness goes a long way to helping a player build confidence and Duchene has to have that. It's not all within him.
Duchene will have a tremendous career with NSH. AVs and OTT were some terrible teams and can't be faulted for the struggles. Given better Wingers his numbers are substantially higher. NSH being the 1C/2C will their strong DMen nd team depth will have career years.
in columbus he had a chance to play with players like atkinson and panarin and his numbers sucked..
@@spencertsai6299 Player dropped into playoff contention needed time to blend into the team. He really improved during the playoffs which he dominated. I believe he'll have career seasons with NSH.
Shannon make sure you mention something in the video when you hit 120K. Big fan. Keep up the great work. Can’t wait for the hockey season to start!!!
Duchene and I share a birthday I feel like I have to like the dude ahaha
10 points in 10 games this year in the playoffs
I predict a 27-38-65 season from him. I think he’ll do well in Nashville for two reasons:
1. He loves the city. He’ll finally be in an enjoyable environment. He has a chance to win (for real this time)
2. He doesn’t have to be the game-breaker. Nashville is all about depth.
At his best I think he’s a 30-40-70 point guy.
At his worst I think he’s a 25-25-50 guy.
So somewhere in between is realistic, maybe a bit on the higher side.
Two drawbacks though are it was a contract year and I don’t think he’ll get as many opportunities as in Ottawa.
Brandon Narayan agreed, but Nashville’s attack is overrated, they’re a stale and boring team they have no jump or fire power, and Rinne is only getting older and is slowing down
William Holden I think Duchene will help revitalize it. Turris struggled with Nashville.
Granlund is a wild card. It’s a contract year so he could perform.
@ablackprep Yeah, but Duchene is a guitar player and will get to sit in with local Nashville musicians. To think that's not his dream come true is crazy talk.
@@williamholden7356 That's a bit of hyperbole. Viktor Arvidsson was among the top gpg forwards in the league last year. Their top line is very good. But almost everything beyond that underperformed. Turris and Granlund didn't do much, the power play was atrocious. By all measures, it was a down year for the team...and they STILL won the division. Duchene is being brought in to right the ship...not rebuild the team.
ghost615 I don’t view Duchene as a game changer though. as a sens fan Ik how much talent he has and it’s antagonizing and he can be a game changer at times but not consistently and I just view them as stale in my opinion and I think Colorado, Winnipeg, Dallas, and St Louis are all better and Chicago could even make a bump
He’s a pretty sick player not his fault what happened in Ottawa I’m wishing him all the best in Nashville
Avs fan here:
Loved the guy when we drafted him. I remember being at opening night in 2009 and watching him play, was very exciting. He is a talented player, but it felt like he wasn't always the best team player. I am not sad he's not a part of our team anymore, but I wish him the best. I agree that he seems to be a little overpaid/overrated, but he's got some talent. Will be looking forward to facing him as a division rival now!
He's not bad... he just whines a lot. He's easy to get off his game. I think his time in the Sens helped get him a bit humbled.
He definitely seems to have matured a bit. He's got a family now. And Nashville was a place he's wanted to be. Hoping all those things line up to him settling down and living up to his potential.
Most overrated player in the NHL. Just my opinion.
The biggest locker room cancer in the league, destroyed the locker room in Colorado, destroyed the locker room in Ottawa, and now he's going to destroy Nashville's next.
It was more like, there was a negativity attached to Colorado and the name of that negativity was Matt Duchene. He did nothing but whine and create negativity. He's all about him, no team.
Solid #2 guy. Hope he flourishes in Nsh and stays there a long time
He's a likeable guy but he became toxic in Colorado and I'm glad he's left and let MacKinnon take his rightful place at the top of the tree.
I can see a career year from all the Predz centers, including those playing wing.
Matt duchene was one of my favorite players at one point until his dumb ass sold out when the avs had a generational talent like MacKinnon how did he not see the potential in the avalanche he'd probably have a cup by now if he was a loyal player.
I think the fact that you take the criticism that you receive from your community head on says a lot about your character and how important it is to you that your subscribers clearly understand the message that you are sending out to them. And also that you are putting out objective content for all hockey fans to enjoy. You have cultivated a very respectable community, and it shows through the message in your work that you care about your subscribers. Much respect for taking the time to share your point of view.
I disagree with the comment about Ottawa being the best situation for him when it comes to scoring. Some major points: He wants to win a Cup now (that won't happen in Ottawa for some time), and Dzingel and Stone were moved. I bet he'd be a 60 point player at best if he dressed in all 82 games, which he could easily do in Nashville with a much better chance of winning the Cup. He made the right move, and got compensated well in the process.
Rip Carolinas away jersey
His money is a little high, but I like Matt!! It could take a lot of pressure of him and he may jump a few points per game. Join the club on nasty nights sleeps!!! I really haven't had a good nights sleep since I got hurt in the Infantry!!!!
Two years later and his contract looks absolutely awful, and one of the worst in the league. He'll probably bounce back to some extent, but likely not enough to be worth his 8m cap.
Never felt strongly either way about the guy. Liked to see him in Columbus. Hope he would stay on a decent contract, but that probably wasn't going to happen. Wonder if he can get 70 points or more this season? Maybe not?
Pancakes and Hammers If he’s with the right line mates consistently I can see him getting 70 or a little bit under
I think his talent is higher than what is PPG represents. It seems like when he is on a bad team and already has a good contract he loses motivation. If he’s in a contract year or he has a chance at the cup it seems like he plays a lot better
61.7 ppg and douchene gets 8mil per year from nashville? what happened to getting paid ~100k/point?
Centers typically get paid more than other positions. Honestly, most were projecting him to go even higher. There's a strong possibility he could have gotten more elsewhere, but he wanted to come to Nashville.
@UC2wZcRmehQQgHY2FbGXuMTA Looking at the stats of the guy he might have 1 or 2 decent years and then he'll start to suck again.. Since the best years he's had are contract years. Money grubbing mercenary like some one said in the comments. I feel bad for nashville
It's called an increasing salary cap.......
One of the most overrated players in the league
Didn't he grow up a fan of the Avs?
Overrated!! Overrated!! Overrated!!
Imagine liking country music so much you leave a solid contending team for Nashville
Tyler Longhofer The Sens are a very solid contending team 😉 😉
Sorry, bud, but Columbus should rename their team the Titanics with as many players as were jumping off that thing. 🤣
Imagine implying you think a team that contends far more than your own isn't as good
ONE series win ever even after going all in lmao why do you even try
Bick Nonino The Blue Jackets were ousted by the eventual Stanley Cup champs almost every single time they made the playoffs. Your stiffest competition are the blues and the Leafs, give me a break.
I think you're a little tough on centers. How many really good centers who aren't overpaid are there in the league? It's a lot like QBs in the NFL. You pay a premium for a guy that you hope can get the job done because the position is so important. To your point about Duchene performing well when he's around top-notch talent, I think that's part of the Preds plan. You could really make that same argument about Mikael Granlund (and really Kyle Turris too, but it's not likely that he's on a line with Duchene). But once you start putting these guys together, you hopefully get more out of them. With Granlund always being a pass first guy, I'm hopeful that giving him a weapon like Duchene will be a huge boost to both of them. Like you said, it's not like Duchene is going to be asked to do it all himself. He's a complementary piece in Nashville, and the hope is that will bring out the best in his game.
overpaid. badly.
I think because Duchene doesn't have to be the go-to center, he won't suffer a drop in points (at least not too much lol)
I wouldn't be surprised if he scored 70 plus. In fact, I'd be a little disappointed if he got less than 67ish. I think you can somewhat disregard those hellish years in CO. He should be great with good team like Nashville.
You can't throw out the bad years. He was a central figure for those Avs teams. His numbers indicate him scoring closer to 60 points than above 70.
@@TheHockeyGuy Sure. But he was central to a team that was a mess during the Roy Era, he had some injuries, and he requested a trade which would indicate his mental game wasn't fully there. I mean, I certainly wouldn't be shocked if he only got between 50-60, I just wouldn't bet on it (barring injuries). Or maybe I'm just a overly hopeful Preds fan :p... Lol
I'm taking credit for this video. I dared to disagree with him on the other video, he yelled at me, and now he proved me wrong.
You should do a video explaining what salary cap is, and why it goes up.
The thing I have with Duchene is that Uber ride last year when he was laughing at how bad Ottawa was
I have the Preds winning the the Cup next season, and Duchene winning the Conn Smyth.
lmao
ya ok..
I think depending on who Duchene plays with, he gets about 55, worst case scenario, and 75 at best. I expect between 60 and 65 with 25-30 goals.
Part of the points being down may well have been the scoring across the league being down in 2016
Keep it going Shannon almost to 120000!
watch him turn into Hossa and be on a new team every year
First instinct, for whatever reason, is 64 points for Duchene this season in Nashville if he plays 75 or more games.
@@michaelb4833 I'll put you down for about 59-61 for Duchene then. ;P
I have to think 60 minimum if he has chemistry on a line with Arvy.
Duchene or Krecji?
Congrats on 119k!!
To address squeezing out veterans under today’s cap.. the NHL should look into a “veterans exception” to the cap.. doesn’t the NBA have something like that? It’s pity teams can’t afford 3/4th line veterans anymore... could they make an exception to the cap between 1.5-3.5 million for players over 32 that wouldn’t count against the cap?
Nah it’s fine the way it is, old guys are not good for the business.
sweetie lune yea.. having veteran leadership in the locker room is a terrible thing... it is odd that almost every champion in every sport talk about veteran leadership in the room teaching the kids how to play the game properly.. what a idiot you are
Least likeable person in the sport
Jackets fan?
ghost615 Islanders fan
Wow
Hello
Can't blame Matt for wanting to win. It would be funny if he gets knocked out by Colorado in the playoffs this year. Ottawa way overpaid for just over a year of his services.
kosmicwizard Agreed, but Duchene gave life to the sens and helped develop some of our younger players like Dzingel but.... Melnyk decided to trade EVERYONE
GOAT
You must be a childhood friend of his
Glad the habs didnt go all in on this guy
When you're a top 3 pick there are expectations, Landeskog and MacKinnon are meeting those expectations, Duchene just whines.
For memes sake, I'm just hoping that Nashville fails to make the playoffs this year. I do believe in the Duchene curse, after all.