Analyzing Evil: Vincent From Collateral
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- Welcome everyone to the forty-first episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Vincent from Collateral. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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EDITED ON 5/24/2023 Note: I don't like to erase my mistakes, I prefer to learn from them, so where the original comment I made begins will be marked below.
Hey all,
Been awhile since I've come back to this video, and I haven't checked in on this comment. Looks like the overwhelming opinion regarding what I said here was that I was wrong, and I'd like to acknowledge that I indeed was! I initially made the statement that Vincent could have handled the muggers differently based on his expertise. I assumed that a man with a skill set like Vincent's is more than capable of incapacitating these men without killing them, but he chose to kill them because that's part of his villainous nature, and I used that notion to bolster my findings regarding his morality.
However, as many of you have pointed out, no matter a person's skill set in such a scenario, the proper thing to do when someone is threatening your life is to eliminate that threat by any means necessary. For a man like Vincent, that could be shooting them in the legs or the shoulder, but even for a man like him, a death blow is much more appropriate in this scenario given the the threat. Also, I would like to emphasize again that I made this claim based on his SKILL SET. Anyone who is far less skilled than he, (which is the majority of us) should ALWAYS take the course of action that will save your life or the lives of those being threatened that you're trying to protect, and again, even if you are skilled like Vincent, you should do the same. Self defense is self defense, and you defend yourself as best you can when the time comes, and in this type of situation incapacitation is unreliable, unsafe, and bound to get you killed. Do what you have to do to survive by any means necessary when your life is threatened.
I'm not perfect nor am I all knowing or versed in every subject and I get things wrong, so I appreciate it when you all point things out to me so I can learn from my mistakes. Sorry for the initial erroneous judgement I made and I apologize for the discord it may have caused.
ORIGINAL COMMENT BEGINS HERE:
“The muggers deserved what they got!”
I’m pinning this comment in anticipation of more comments like this. This may be a matter of opinion, and perhaps I didn’t explain myself as well as I should have, but the reason I said they didn’t deserve it because he already had the one who was pointing a gun at him incapacitated, and the other was struggling to get his gun out of his pants when the other was dazed. A man with Vincent’s skills could have easily incapacitated both without killing them. (He could have even shot them in the legs or something to that effect) but he chose to kill them instead. That’s why I said that.
Both are still idiots, and deserved to be punished and dealt with for sure, and if that scene had played out differently, I would agree with you. However it played out how it did, and in my opinion, they still didn’t deserve to die given that he didn’t have to kill them to incapacitate them.
Exactly. Also on the matter of Vincent being a sociopath, if i remember correctly a sociopath is a normal person who through trauma (sometimes reversably sometimes not) lost their empathy, while a psychopath is somebody born without it, so I'd say Vincent IS a sociopath, but not a psychopath.
Never seen this movie, cool video gives aesthetic vibes
You should analyze brick top from snatch next
I think Vincent assessed the situation and responded appropriately. One was definitely armed, and actively threatening Vincent, the other was very likely armed and close enough to cause an issue if he couldn't quickly dispatch the first. I'm sure that if the thugs had turned around and said "yeah, this your briefcase, sorry we took it" and handed it back, he would have let them go, but faced with the situation that they presented to him, Vincent chose the reaction that would give him the highest probability of success.
@@kirbus69 They were both armed and the second guy was attempting to raise his gun wielding hand to shoot Vincent as soon as Vincent disarmed his partner.
Vincent and Collateral as a whole are extremely underrated.
Yes! Finally! I was waiting for videos about this movie for so long!
Sadly at the time this movie came out youtube didn't even exist yet...
Yes agree
@Allison Bauch Yeah. I remembered a movie long ago. Quite funny sometimes, but has many flaws. Only his and Cameron Diaz’s charisma saved the entire movie from collapsing. People legit forget his acting abilities as if he’s only an action star. Sadly, he’ll quite probably be remembered as one due to acting in so many.
I gonna admit I like this movie more then Heat .. I don’t know maybe it’s because it isn’t too long or the characters isn’t too much cartoony “ no offense Mr Pacino “ but that’s just opinion I guess..
The word "underrated" is overrated.
"Think anybody will notice?" His last words almost perfectly sum up his personal philosophy on life. He sees people as nothing but insignificant specs of dust on a floating rock in a galaxy surrounded by billions of others like it. But uniquely, he includes himself in that. In his final moments he recognizes that even his own life doesn't truly matter in the end. Vincent is by far one of my favorite on screen villains, deeply complex and so mysterious with just enough substance for you to piece together who he really is.
I agree his depth made him one of those villains you feel guilty about liking. A man who could smile at you from a genuine place in his heart one second and kill you with no emotion the next. Shits chilling
I thought by saying that he deep down did care whether people would care if he died. Clearly he didn't want his dead body to sit on that train for hours and no one notices him dying.
Funny thing about him, is that he seems to despise people and see no redeeming meaning in life what so ever. And he kills in a blink of an eye with no remorse, in fact, he does it for a living and have done it for a long time and is very good at it. He's like a empty shell of a human, that just travels around like a ghost, all alone, only him and his thoughts and his job, to kill. Like he's the grim reaper himself. But then he is trying to like pepp talk Max, like some personal life coach or something. He sees Max is a guy that clearly needs help and he actually tries to really help him evolve as a person and realize his inner potential, even if he plans on murdering Max later. All I have to say is: Vincent is messed up 😂
@Valik TMD Jack Nicholson is great 👍👏
Marshal!
If you watch the “Making Of Collateral” documentary, filmmaker Michael Mann states it’s canon that Vincent’s mom dies in childbirth, his dad was an abusive alcoholic, and he bounced around between foster homes in Gary, Indiana. Which makes Vincent actually a tragic character; a victim of his awful childhood. Complex & layered performance from Tom Cruise- he totally nails the villain persona.
Damn as a person in Indiana, him being bounced around homes in Gary is so understandable
Gary used to be like Indiana’s Detroit but is now a fucking ghost town
That wouldn't explain him becoming a hitman.
@@isobelswan Well from there you can make inferences like he has military training and his instability could've led to him being discharged then taking up work as a hitman. "Private sector? Six years" Private sector meaning hitman so non-private can mean military.
I don't buy that. He seems a man who is in complete control of his life and actions.
He is a selfish callous man.
He is only interested in feathering his own nest.
If he was such a nice guy he would have split the money he is going to get for his hits right down the middle for Max.
Because we can assume it would be millions.
No he is such a tight wad he wants to embroil Max in a series of murders and pay him peanuts for it.
He puts Max through Hell so that he can coin it at Maxs expense.
I say this with 90+% sureness… there’s an easy to miss line with cops where they talk about a while back, where a cabbie went on a random killing spree like this one and then killed himself. That’s Vincent.
Vincent is going to kill Max at the end of the night. Max can ID him and “no one knows what he looks like”. That’s why Vincent sent Max into the club to get the back up information.
Every encouraging thing Vincent says to Max is hollow and meaningless, because at the end of this night, Vincent is going to kill him anyway.
On top of that, it’s also very likely Vincent could very well kill Max’s mom as well sense she can ID him too.
So I would say everything you're saying is all true however I feel like there is this tiny sliver of kindness in Vincent despite being a sociopath. What do you think of the part when Vincent doesn't bother to shoot back at Max when he is in the law office? Max pointed a gun at him, Vincent seems surprised that he's there and in fact carries on as if he's not a threat. Gets shot in the cheek for this lapse in judgment. He didn't need Max at that point? Vincent could've easily shot him like he did those punks in the alley. Did he really think that after Max crashed the car that he wouldn't pull the trigger? Could be some emotional thing clouding his judgment. I feel like Vincent may actually sort of like Max in a very small almost insignificant way. He definitely would kill him though as he tried to do on the MTS because at that point he took Max seriously and knew he was a definite threat to his mission.
He also saves Max in the club. Did he really still need Max at that point? If Max had died in the club Vincent still would've been able to carry on. If anything he would've succeeded had he not saved Max in the club. Max wouldn't be driving him and Max wouldn't have crashed the car. Sure he needed his driver but I just find it curious that's how things would've turned out had he not saved Max in the club.
I heard that line as well and, like you, knew they were indirectly talking about Vincent. I also believe you are correct that that was Vincent intended to do with Max...have him drive him around while he makes his hits and then kill him at the end of the night.
Where I disagree, and this is why I love this movie because of all the layers of the characters, is that was still his intention by the end of the movie. See, in the first scenario, his m.o. worked like a charm. The cabbie just drove him around, making small talk and thinking he just made a huge tip. But when the guy fell out of the window onto Max's cab, the pretense fell and Max became truly aware of who and what Vincent was. Vincent, needing to keep his ride, was now forced to deal with Max on a real level, without his mask of "just some successful businessman needing a bunch of signatures".
I think Vincent was truly happy because he could really be who he was with someone. And when he saw Max having some similarities to himself like a trauma dealing mother, I think Vincent was forced to see himself in Max AND recognize that Max IS a human being. That made him bond with Max in a way he always wanted to bond with someone, but was incapable of. I think Vincent grew to care about Max in some way.
He was never going to kill Max, period . He actually had respect for him and wanted him to better his life. Why do you think when the cab crashed, Vincent just left Max there , After sarcastically telling Max ,that was brilliant, and ran off to go after the lawyer?
@@entreri76x It was mentioned by someone else on this topic, when they see the Coyote, the expression on Vincent's face changes, looking almost sad or remorseful. What actually happened to cause that? Well I doubt a nihilist like him got catched in a sudden irony of the reflection this presents. While the symbolism is more apparent to us, to Vincent in the scene something else should be more apparent. Max stops the car for the coyote. He is a genuinely good person and hasnt given up yet on what Vincent thinks are hollow beliefs. And I think at that point he is a bid regretful that he has to kill Max at the end of the night. Its nothing he will enjoy but it has to be done. And thats what he realises. But to make it clear, this is one interpretation that is not to outlandish and the movie lives and gains from allowing different interpretations. There is no absolute true theory when it comes to this movie outside of what is established as fact by the movie and its creators.
@@BlackStrey and that all makes sense .. but .. as I’ve said before.. when Max crashed that taxi, Vincent pretty much told him he’s an idiot.. and ran off to go after the lawyer leaving Max alive.. Max could’ve went straight to the authorities or the FBI at that point . Vincent would never have thought Max would immediately go risk his life to save the lawyer.
He literally is the Ultimate Villain, I wish they made Movies like this still. Michael Mann is a Film Genius.
He really is... _Heat, The Insider_ & _Collateral_ are three major pieces of cinematic art.
He’s made a bit of meaningless shit past few years though also.🤷🏼♂️
Couldn't agree more! Unfortunately fantasy films + superhero flicks have put Mann out of work. sad.
Hannibal Lector is the ultimate villain.
@@st3wi3D Get over yourself dude.
"Yo homie! Is that my briefcase?" One of Tom Cruise's best performances, in my opinion.
Totally! All 3 of these guys man! Cruise, Fox, Bardem! The club scene where Vincent is just plowing through everyone to kill the Korean boss......Freakin love this flick.
Yeah totally. I wish he'd play more villainous or anti hero roles.
If not...THE best.
Hands down
I could picture an argument between him and Michael Douglass' character from Falling Down over the briefcase.
I think Vincent does represent sociopaths accurately. It's not so much the lack of emotions or empathy, it's the ability to switch it on and off. That's how sociopaths operate in real life
I agree. I do not think that he is a clinical sociopath though. You are right.
I don't think they switch emotions on and off, I just think they take the "mask" on and off.
But for sociopaths (secondary psychopaths) they show more bad behavior in the open then primary psychopaths who just hides it in public. For example are many serial killers primary psychopaths, while the street gang member/leader who shows anger and commit crimes more often is a secondary psychopath. Sociopaths can commit horrible crimes without hesitation, but later feel remorse in some cases.
Some people can also be both primary and secondary psychopaths, like the "Iceman".
That is exactly how we operate, it really is like a "light switch" tbh😒😒😒💯🧔🏾♂️
@@jackiechun5817you're cool bruh Mr. Android with a light switch 🤣
It’s not just that but these people have been emotionally disconnected from the act of murder or violence since they have military training md I’m the military they are taught that enemy’s are not living people but targets and jobs so he doesn’t see them as anything else but a job to be done but he clearly had some type of humanity when he gets flowers to maxs mother and tells max to stop wasting time with his temporary job and go for something greater he could’ve easily killed Vincent after ruining his plans or making his job so much harder yet he tried to continue giving him chances to lice😊
When the thief points the gun it’s a credible threat of deadly force and there’s no issue taking his life.
Spoken like a true American. *facepalm*
You’re wrong. You are supposed to wait until he shoots you before you use deadly force. Americans and their ridiculous right to self defense. *facepalm.
Where are you from?
Exactly
@@The_real_Arovor so you'd just let somebody shoot you because you're morally superior? I doubt it.
Collateral just blew me away. The story, the performances, even the soundtrack was stunning. Every scene completely roped me in. Absolute masterpiece.
That scene when the coyote crosses the street and "Shadow of the sun" starts to play is forever burned into my memory.
My family really didn’t like it. I loved it.
The movie hooked me early with the cab ride with Jada.... Groove Rider playing in the background sealed it... they tried to sell it as a classic, lol....
It is a good movie. I would have preferred the villain to come out on top tbh. Vincent was cool and Jamie Fox's character was kind of annoying. Also, how does a taxi driver come out on top against a professional hitman?? It annoyed me.
@@historia9275 cuz Max improvised
Those two goons that stole vincent's briefcase absolutely had it coming. One already leveled a gun at Vincent's head, and the other started to draw his own as soon as Vincent made his move on the first guy. There was no way he could have gotten that briefcase back through melee without being shot, because the two thieves were spaced too far apart for him to pistolwhip one guy and have enough time to punch out the other, even though the second guy was fumbling his draw.
Yeah rare bad take by the Vile Eye that he had any choice but to delete those two derelicts
sick scene
You don’t know what’s going on in the mind of a petty drug user. There death was also on Max for getting them involved.
Yea i caught this and disagreed with it as well. Totally justified knocking those two guys off
Totally agree. Anyone that pulls a gun to your face has to go down for good. No questions asked.
"Did you kill him?"
"I shot him. The fall killed him."
... technically correct.
You should do Dennis Peck from "Internal Affairs" (1990). Richard Gere is fkin terrifying.
Dennis Peck is an incredible villain and well worthy of the Vile Eye treatment.
“I know ya love me man!”
"He died of natural causes for a dagger in the heart naturally leads to death." comes to mind.
"its not the fall that kills ya. Its the sudden stop at the bottem"
I agree. He was. Like Tom Cruise, I feel like Richard Gere should have played villains more. He was really amazing in that movie.
A moment to appreciate how absolutely stunning this movie looks
“You promise you won’t tell anyone right??”
*Max frantically shakes his head No
“Get in the fucking car”
Lmao. Funniest part of the movie.
Yeah! It was. 😂🤣😂🤣 I saw this at the movies, when I was 24. Til this day, I still watch and enjoy it.
Lmfaoooo
Slippery Sloper I'm laughing now just thinking about that seen so hilarious😂😂😂.
Lol
Yep lol, love that line ! lol
Truly the most evil of all is The Vile Eye himself...for when I stumbled across the channel a few months ago I never realized I'd have to watch each new video because the character variety and how they are described are terrifyingly good.
I totally agree with this sentiment, Vile Eye has made us love onscreen evil hehehehe
Plus... The Voice.
Analyzing Evil: The Vile Eye 😈
He talks to me ear at night probably etching eldritch runes onto m brain in that calm stern hypnotic tone of his.
One thing that just came to me when I was looking at it: The coloration of Vincent's suit is exactly that of a Great White Shark's, an apex predator that's most famous for being a completely emotionless killing machine.
Same with the hair
Nice
Perfect analogy
I think the scene with the Wolf on the street symbolizes the predator nature of Vincent, he’s shaded in the exact same way as the wolf
Michael Mann loves a grey suit. Several of his main characters wear them throughout his films .
I'm glad this movie is slowly getting the recognition it deserves! It's much deeper than your everyday action movie. It's almost phylosophical in nature. Tom's best performance and one of my all time favorite movies.
Agree with everything you say.
And since I'm a kid that grow up in the 2000's, this is a one of my favorite movies and of one the first that I remember watching with my father.
Really fucking good
His best performance is in Interview with a vampire but this one is great too
"Is he a soulless sociopath with no conscience making a living out of his lack of remorse?" ... sorry Vile Eye...you weren't describing Vincent...you were describing Les Grossman from "Tropic Thunder"
This is flaming Dragon!
@@savagehiro1720 "Find out who that was"
"I'M TALKIN' SCROTCHED. EARTH. MOTHER. FUCKER!!!" - Lex Grossman; Businessman, philosopher of sorts
@@bradbiggs4283 my favorite fucking scene 😂🤣😂🤣
Thats certainly an opinion
I love this character. Cold, calculated, determined. Cruise nailed this role and surprised me, and probably the world. Someone write him another villain to play please, other than Lestat ofc.
Why do you say Lestat is a villain? Have you read the books? I never saw Lestat as a villain, he was a vampire, so yes there were deaths he caused that he didn’t need to. But he also had rules. He didn’t kill “innocents”. And in the later books he literally only kills “evildoers”. He also wants to be good. The movie portrayed him as worse than he was.
@@katkenobi6765 I've read all the books. In Interview with the Vampire it is narrated by Louis. Lestat is antagonistic towards Louis and Claudia, though technically not a villain he does evil things plus he kills the you know who in the end. But from book 2 and onwards the narrator is Lestat so he becomes the protagonist.
@@orarinnsnorrason4614: Thanks for not spoiling!
Tom is a Legend no surprise
@@justinhunt4767 Absolutely. He's a "must see TV" as they say in sports :)
Can't wait for Top Gun - Maverick
I had to go watch the mugging scene really quickly to comment on it, and Vincent was incredibly justified in shooting those two men. He didn’t have the first one “incapacitated” as has been stated, and the other one was trying to kill him. He had every right to kill them both. And the “shoot for the legs” line is just a way to identify people that have never studied shootings, much less been a part of one.
True
Yep plus, shooting the legs can kill too if the fhemural artery is severed. Ntm, that shooting them in the legs won't make them magically become a non threat. They'll Most likely still be clutching their pistols and trying to shoot back at him.🖨️💯💪🏾🧔🏾♂️
If you say "just shoot their legs", youve never held a gun before.
Everything about the muggers would qualify as self-defense in the eyes of the law up until he shoots the wounded mugger in the head.
Shooting legs and especially thighs blows the major arteries apart n leads to fatal blood loss
Vincent is a unique villain that stood out to me because of how "innocent" and charismatic he is. From an outsider perspective, you wouldn't know what he's truly capable of, making him terrifying. It's people like Vincent that make you doubt those around you.
Imagine being chased by Vincent and in the midst of getting away you steal the transporters car, hit John wicks dog and the equalizer sees it all.
Crossover of the century.
omg I would just end it after that. Its over, too much running is slow death.
@@houseofhas9355 just collect the infinity stones and pray they finish the job.
The universe would implode
I wanna see them have an all-out brawl, who would come out on top?
An empathetic nihilist? Makes sense.
“Yo homey, is that my briefcase?” Is still my favorite line in this movie.
I knew a guy back in the day who said, "yo homey" once & that became his nickname. Yo, yo homey is how we called him.
He's more a misanthrope. I can relate fortunately
@@ejkboxing I knew a kid with an awkward name so all the kids just called him "man" so that what he went by.
USP.45 GO BRRRRRRR
@@sacredsteeler No because its clear he enjoys human reaction he just believes humans and our existence is shallow and meaningless. If he was a misanthrope he would be off in the woods doing survivalist stuff or something.
In the Making of Collateral Tom Cruise was trained by Mick Gould an ex SAS (Special Air Service) operator. Gould talks about giving Cruise the kind of training he would have had if the actor spent eight to twelve years in special forces. That's some intense training!
Loved the choice in color. Vincent was literally the perfect Gray Man.
One of Tom Cruise's most underrated roles, he needs to play more characters like this that are out of his norm. As far as suggestions go, how about Sy Parrish from One Hour Photo? Dunno if you can consider him completely evil or not, but that's why I think he'd make for a great episode :)
Actually the first Tom Cruise movie that I bothered to watch. And still my favorite
This is my favourite Tom Cruise film,it’s like Fight Club,what I call violence with intelligence....
Sy Parrish is great choice in my opinion. One whom I've actually suggested before done on this channel, two weeks ago. Such a unnerving, disturbing, albeit almost neighborly portrayal by Robin Williams. But yes, was he truly evil? A question that would make for a good deep dive.
Cheers 🍻
Sy is unnerving as Hell, but I think Williams was truly at his most evil as Walter Finch.
By far my favorite role of his. Shame they only cast him as a good guy these days.
Just watched this last night for the 2nd time since it came out back in the day. Incredibly underrated gunplay, Vincent was the original John Wick and everyone forgot
Vincent would mop the floor with John Weak
I would say better less stylized. Vincent is a reason I bought my gray sports jacket and dyed my hair gray for a couple months
Damon currie you dyed your hair grey over a movie character? Lol
@@seanwegner9925 yes to clarify it was for Halloween. Unfortunately I'm balding so naturally I'll never be a silver fox. Also fiction and reality are on the same level for me unfortunately.
@@damoncurrie7103 do what makes you happy.
I come to think Vincent found in Max what he never had throughout his horrible life… a brother, a friend. In a strange way he admired that Max showed him a piece of humanity he couldn’t grasp, and that’s why he kept saving his life throughout. And that’s why I believe he intentionally lost the gun battle at the end. He knew he couldn’t go on and wanted his only friend in life to finish him.
exactly...given his near perfect aim, it seemed like he was physically incapable of shooting at max, he intentionally aimed off and just shot to scare max and make him give up...in the end, he kind of looked proud and happy that he transformed max;s life in a positive way
@@Vincenzo-ks3zl I wouldn’t read your sociopathic idiot babbling if someone paid me. This commenter above you got it right.
i watched this movie 2 days ago. It is a pretty barebones simple movie but theres something about it that made me go back to it. The style, the charisma. I consider it a hidden gem and i hope more people watch it
One thing you missed: Vincents plan was to kill and frame the taxidriver (which he had done previously). This means that, not only did he put the driver through hell, every kindness he showed him was entirely pointless, since he was going to kill him from the start
great point
That was never really established. There was that throwaway line of dialogue about a cabbie in san diego but its possible (and more realistic imo) that he just intended for Max to never be the wiser to what he was doing.
This
@@StainsStainsStains That 'throwaway line' Is what establishes it... That's why the line was there: A warning and reminder that, no matter how personable Vincent was, he absolutely had a pattern to the way he worked...
@@TimParker-Chambers there’s an underlying subtext about Vincent losing his ability to do his work and culminates at the end when max is able to outshoot him. It first shows up after he shoots the jazz guy, he looked remorseful and like he was losing his momentum. He saved max from the cartel guy so more reason to think that this wasn’t his normal quality of work and that he might have gone lighter on his normal body count had he finished the job.
Had it ended the way Vincent wanted it to end, 50/50 chance he’d have survived as long as he was still unaware of what Vincent was doing.
A man who can turn empathy on and off, a trained killer, disciplined, well groomed, and intelligent; a perfect soldier, now for hire and loose on the streets.
hooah
Soldiers kill threats.
Try to avoid innocents.
Vincent is pure elimination.
@@stringfellowbalk2654 soldiers dont kill innocents ? hahahaha thats funny
@@n.b.l.5709 that is hilarious lol
@@denislitvinov8208 tank you
Charisma, intelligence combined with cold-blooded behaviour is terrifying because people like Vincent are invisible because they adapt so well. They could be everywhere.
Love your analysis.
I think this overestimates Vincent’s empathy. Most of this seemed an act. He acts like he cared about Max, but he had always planned on killing Max in a “suicide”, as revealed when the detective recounted the similar incident that it reminded him of, which was clearly a prior round of Vincent’s hits
Hard to know - Maybe his empathy is an act, but personally I think he was growing attached to Max. Had they completed the night together successfully, and Max was a little more morally ambiguous, I think they would have developed a professional relationship. But if Max showed any indication he would go to the Police, Vincent would have killed him without hesitation
@@TheJester-ct5pi possible but personally I doubt it. Vincent was all about the plan, and the plan was to kill Max in an apparent suicide to take the fall for the killings. Seems like it would take a lot for him to deviate from that plan, even if he did like the guy
People can have empathy but still act against it and ignore it. People on the psychopath spectrum can actually have a lot of empathy ironically, they just ignore what they know through that empathy whereas others are more bound by it.
I think that’s what makes him more terrifying the fact he can fake his empathy towards max so easily and yet make max and the audience(us) feel it so much just cold and such an amazing performance by Tom Cruise
@@kinggagoatt6269 Psychopathic people can have real empathy, theres many things to suggest he does have a genuine appreciation for Max and understands fully where hes coming from. He is just able to disregard it.
I love the scene with the coyote as it's a perfect analogy for Vincent himself: a cold, misunderstood and uncalled-for predator lost in the big city.
Then you will love the fact that this scene wasn't planned.
They encountered and filmed the coyote by pure chance and used it for the movie.
@@roberttausig9170 somebody listen to that director commentary
"You open that trunk, they go in it." Just insane, without batting an eye.
Despite all his talk about adapting and rolling with it, Vincent is ultimately taken down by sticking to his strict habits. After he and Max fire upon each other in the subway train, you can see his shooting pattern of the mozambique drill (2 center mass + 1 above forming a triangle, which he has been doing throughout the film to all his victims) in the door which stopped his bullets. He even reflexly tries to reload his weapon, running on autopilot. Max shot wildly and managed to hit him through the glass windows, the two characters now fully swapped places from when they met.
What's sad about Vincent, is there's positive redeemable qualities in him. He still has a level of humanity even though his soul has been spent sometime ago. 🙁
The soul doesn't exist in psychology we talk more about lack of empathy and remorse mixed with quick change of humor due to a very painful childhood
His shooting and reload speed is amazing. Definitely has a military background, spec ops.
Great pick...i love this film.
Along with Nightcrawler, Its one of the last gritty LA films.
Suggestion: 'Dfens' from 'Falling Down'
@Quajay : I completely agree with everything you wrote, and would just like to add "Heat" and "Drive" to your gritty LA films list ;)
He says to Max in the cab, "private sector six years" - I doubt the non-private sector experience was in charity!
@@stup4501 Hahahsha....right 👍
@@stup4501 cruise just made it look good cause micheal mann makes u train for movies like this to add to the realness of it he did the same with heat de niro and the guys trained and were taught by actual sas british operatives thats why the the gun handling looked so real
“Vincent doesn’t care about anything. He’s a nihilist.”
“Oh, that must be exhausting.”
A Big Lebowski reference nice .. 😎
"Don't worry Donny, these men are cowards"
"Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus"
He is not a Nazi, he is a nihilist
@@rafaelalodio5116
"Nihilists?
Fuck me.
I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."
Can we get a Biff from back to the future episode
What a surprising suggestions but I like it :O
Like for April 1st
But then there is Griff and Beuford
Yeah he did try to kill Marty in BTTF 2 and Bufford in BTTF 3.
@@eldo59 attempted sexual assault in BTTF. Elder abuse, underage drinking & gambling in BTTF 2
Biff wasn't evil he was just a clown clueless bully, who was not the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
Tom Cruise is just really good in every movie he does.
except the Mummy
@@fanofgodjimindiva2497 agreed, this was a bad choice of him. Aside that movie he realy is great in any other movie.
@@fanofgodjimindiva2497I forgot about that film. It was terrible.
One of my favorite films that I felt has become criminally underrated over the years, glad to see it features here.
Word of advice to other Collateral fans: watch this with someone that knows nothing about this film, and let them go into it as blindly as possible. I showed the film to my wife back while we were dating, and with the way the film starts she assumed it would be a quaint, day-in-the-life drama. But when the first target crashed down onto the taxi cab, she screamed and was so stunned by the tonal shift that her mouth was agape for the rest of the scene. A priceless reaction.
nice
Yeah, perfect date movie.
The second the thief pulled the gun on him when he asked for his case back is when he merited his own death. Can't blame Vincent for that one.
Especially since there was a second armed guy ready to shoot right next to him. The narrator of this video was acting like all he had to do was disarm and beat up the guy in front of him, while is mate just stands there watching with his fingers on his gun? That was an oddly stupid point. "Deserve" had nothing to do with it. That was the highest chance of survival while getting his stuff back strategy, thats all. Like wtf. Im not american and i live in a place with no guns, but he really conveniently ignored the situation and aimed for hollywood movie magic with "you couldve just done sOmEtHiNg else". Surprised, but i suppose he does have to project the image of rejecting every act of "wrongdoing" towards the audience.
Anyone with real world experience knows, … you draw a weapon and all bets are off.
This vid is quite good except for this.
The author has never looked down the muzzle of a gun.
@@davidbrown9920ok tuff guy you're not hard lmao
@@davidbrown9920in that same situation you'd get blown tf away lmao
@@stylishskater92you don't need your stuff dummy you're not a tough guy
I love this movie, the fact that Vincent's own "routine" of shooting twice in the body and once in the head cost him to lose at the end. I disagree with the muggers death outlook thought. They pointed a weapon at him, right there they deserved whatever came to them.
This shooting pattern which he so vigorously adheres to, resulting in his own death, is characteristic of US special forces, especially SEALs and Delta Force. So that supports that theory but if he came from an abusive background, their psychological tests would probably scrubbed him from the program.
@@clinttaylor4032 The Mozambique drill isn't particular to US SOF, it's a technique popularised by Jeff Cooper. It's popular among civilians, law enforcement, and military alike. He doesn't need to be SOF to be proficient in it.
That “routine” isn’t what killed Vincent. He just shot uncharacteristically poorly and missed Max, and he couldn’t shoot any more because those were the last 3 bullets in his gun. Max just pointed the gun in Vincent’s direction and started firing, and he got lucky. If he’d only had 3 bullets, he might have missed too, and then Vincent would have just reloaded and finished him off. Also, even if Vincent had hit Max, that’s probably not going to instantly kill or even incapacitate him unless he hit him in the center of the head or directly in the heart. Max might not have even noticed he’d been shot until after he finished firing, the same way Vincent didn’t. And then they’d both be dead.
@@bluemarlin8138 if you look at the bullet holes they hit the train door. Two at the chest area one at the head. It's just a hand gun couldn't penetrate the door.
3:09 the coyote scene has strong and deep hidden insights, concerning Vincent's vulnerability.
Vincent is associated with canids. Coyote is trickster of Native Americans, but grey marks him as Wolf. Wolf is more sinister character and lone wolf in nature hunts weaker prey than it is. Lone wolf is phase in male wolfs life between being a pup and finding/founding a new pack. Vincent remains lone wolf as opportunistic predator and trickster as shaker of Max's character.
Not a fan of Tom Cruise, but in this role he showed all his acting skills, unbelievable how flawless he plays Vincent.
That does somewhat make you a fan! He just doesn't do alot that displays what he can do.
Cruise is a good actor. No denying that
@@johnv6806 Cruise has been in tons of great movies that's showcased his fantastic acting career. I don't like him as a person, but as an actor he's top notch. Or at least he was in his prime.
'Magnolia', 'War of the Worlds', 'Edge of Tomorrow' and 'American Made' are some really good, really varying roles for him that show just how much he's shed the "boring, male lead in a romance" label he was assigned early in his career.
@@christianc.christian5025 Don't forget A Few Good Men. So much energy in that role and you're competing with Kevin Bacon and Jack Nicholson. No easy task.
I remember sitting in the theater watching this and just sitting there after the credits were rolling just in awe. I can't express how much I love this film!
So glad you did this video, Vincent has always been one of my top 5 characters and seriously underated. Great work sir💯
This is the third movie that I have watched solely because you made a video on the villain. So I must thank you, sir for putting me onto this hidden gem. Thoroughly enjoyed it, and as always, loved your analysis.
I really think that Vincent is a tragic character to an extent. I feel like the perfect storm of life experiences made Vincent into what he was, and he probably would've turned out alright had things been different. He could've had a better existence than the bitter predator that he was.
i think once he was good at killing it was a wrap...and he fell into that
I *definitely* think that he’s a tragic character… The fact that he rationalized being an assassin for organized crime syndicates after being a paid gunman for the United States Special Forces only went so far.
The moment he started to realize just how lonely and animalistic an existence he’d led, he started to hedge on things and to realize that “nobody notices” only when you don’t let them notice you… He was obviously a special guy and could’ve surrounded himself with people to whom he’d have *mattered.*
I think Max begrudgingly “liking” him (I know that’s not the right word, but you get the idea) in spite of who he was really drove that home.
Also, i recall tom cruise saying in an interview that Vincent was from Gary, Indiana and was in Special Forces. That definitely explains a lot about him. I think it was on some DVD to extras somewhere.
I thought i remembered in the dvd commentary that Vincent's backstory is that he would be an American ex-patriot, special forces trained and lives full time in a small east asian country or latin american country and travels into the US to "work." Could be wrong though.
@@StainsStainsStains he is too good just to be a guy.
@@rufussamsquanch_6547 Right!
Given how skilled he is, he’d have to be former military and/or federal law enforcement/intelligence. Kind of hard to be a self-taught professional assassin.
Yup i remember that DVD special feature! They even show a pic of Gary Indiana. The special features on that DVD were on point tbh
I think one one the most telling aspects of Vincent s character is when he screams at max that this is what he does for a living. There is pride in that statement More than pride. This is his since of nobility which we find time and time again in his effort to help max reach a life the max has just been acting up to this point.
Will Smith is wishing Vincent finished the job
lol😂 Pinket Smith
We really need one on Michael Corleone...
I said that in the Tony Montana video.
There is one on another channel type it in
Tony Soprano is coming first
@@TheRealBatCave its all about this channel man
I have been waiting for this one. One of Cruise's best performances and one of the most complex heroes ever. He ended up being more likeable than max.
By far.
Likeable? Yes. Hero? Absolutely not lol
@@chasechiamulera7704 my bad, but he is so likeable you could mistake him for a hero, that's what I meant to say
@@susfringgaming4018 I would agree with you, except that the film reveals Vincent had planned to kill Max the entire time. At that point, all of Vincent's insights on Max leading a stagnant life, and his advice on taking on challenges and pushing himself, are revealed to be a cover for Vincent's intrinsically villainous nature and plans.
Dude, thank you for posting this! Vincent is an amazing character!
As usual, Tom did a great job portraying Vincent. A great movie and they did a great job showing Max, Jamie Foxx's character getting lucky in the end.
This is a great movie. Well written! Really missing Michael Mann's movies these days.
In reference to the innocent people killed, I would chalk those up as "leave no witnesses!" I do believe he cozied up to Max to put him at ease, as he was going to kill him at the end of the night. This was eluded to by Mark Ruffalo's character speaking about an incident that occurred previously in San Francisco... "cab driver kills 5 people, then kills himself at the end of the night."
It was actually, Oakland. Lol Fanning, played by Ruffalo was saying there was a detective investigating that case, never bought the cabbie killed himself. He always thought somebody else was in that cab.
@@1Dub79 I get points for getting close. LOL. I knew it was somewhere in California.
@@vinsonmccants1128 Well, San Francisco IS in the Bay, like Oakland. lol I have the movie. Seen it many, many times. What stood out about that part is it was where Vincent's first hit took place.
I like how even though Max threw his laptop away, Vincent didn't kill him. He instead threatens to take his mother's life. That can be argued that he's using him, however, he never truly considers killing max until he shoots at him. This to me says that he wanted Max at least as a contact considering he keeps him alive in the club scene. What do y'all think?
Well vincent did value the human connection and feeling of community and probably felt that being with max? In a way, max does help out vincent in carrying out his contracts by driving him around. But idk
If you watch the movie again, the cops talked about a similar case where a cab driver supposedly had gone on a killing spree, then 'offed' himself.. For no reason at all.. Vincent had done this before, and intially he was going to kill Max after the job was done. He saw something in Max though, and had certain events transpired differently, he probably was going to spare Max..
Disagree, its stated in the movie from Detective Fanning that there was a similar case of a cabbie killing people then himself, Vincent was going to kill Max at the end regardless to cover his tracks.
@@deadman-3964 I know that, but he could have let him die or killed him. Several times Max got in his way. It would have been simpler to kill him and get a new driver especially given his character. I considered your angle but given the evidence, Max should have died long before the end of the night.
@@DerHalbeEuro your English is very good.
One of my favorite movie villains, along with Leo DiCaprio’s Calvin Candie. For me, the most terrifying part of these characters is that they are definitely among us. Unlike some random Bond villain with their exaggerated “Can’t Kill Me Ever” physicality, you have definitely crossed paths with these villains at the store or the club.
Also, those muggers got what they deserved, without question. Max would’ve done the same thing in the same scenario but would’ve probably felt horrible forever.
Agreed to all parts. And not just Vincent’s realistic physicality, his ability to blend in.
Someone else on TH-cam said it best when discussing the different actors to portray Hannibal Lector. “What makes Anthony Hopkins and Madds Mikkelsen scary is very straightforward. What makes Brian Cox’s Lector scary is, he’s not scary at all.”
@@albertososa6326you are a weak person
I do think Vincent's empathy was his downfall, Vincent inadvertenly inspired Max to fight for his dreams and his life by telling him that his dream to start a limo company was just a fantasy and that he was never going to do the necessary steps to start his business. Vincent pushed Max too far and that sparked the rage inside Max to fight back. I think Vincent respected Max because he had a goal in his life and that Max wanted more out of his life than just being a cab driver, Vincent just never anticipated that Max would cause him this much trouble throughout the night.
(2:40) I have to disagree with you about Vincent having a family of his own for a few reasons
1. Vincent is an honest person to a degree - Vincent doesn't like feeling disconnected, if he had a family he would have to lie about what he did for a living essentially living a double life, and if they were to find out what he was doing for a living, he would lose that personal connection.
2. Vincent would lose his anonymity - I think his employers would do a background check on him and if they were to find out he had a family they would certainly use them as leverage to carry out the contracts, vice-versa they would also find out his identity, thus losing his anonymity. Vincent's anonymity is crucial to his success. Vincent is hired by Felix's boss and is not required to meet his employers. That is likely how he hasn't been threatened with being killed or has been on the police's radar for six years.
3. Nothing to dwell over - Vincent is proficient in his work because he doesn't have anything to worry about, and can focus on the task that is front of him. If he doesn't have a family his employers have no leverage over him. I think Vincent knows that having a family would be a liability.
This movie is great and Vincent's monologue to Max inspired me to follow my dreams and doing something about making those dreams come true. This was a great analysis on Vincent, keep it up and I am looking forward to more of your content.
This! Absolutely could not agree more
Vincent created a monster "Max" The monster killed his creator
Cruise doesn't play enough villains, so far in his career, 2 I can remember. (Maybe 3)
I really like this movie.
(I forgot Statham was in it)
Yeah, it's definitely his best roles. I think Collater and Interview With the Vampire, are his best work as an actor by far.
Wow yeah. And Javier Bardem.
This was made 17 years ago!
YES!!! Vincent is easily my favorite on-screen hitman. One of Cruise's best roles and Michael Mann's best movie behind Manhunter and Heat!
One of your best Eye! I've been watching the series for awhile. And you really have a read on this character, a very very good read. Thanks for your post
Such a classic in my opinion. Definitely underrated movie
This is one of the best movies Tom Cruise has ever worked on.
Hard to pick great body of work
The older I get, the more I understand the antagonist.
Yes, you can understand the why, not that you agree..,but you can see what motivates the behaviors.
Hmm. Indeed.
I love this movie to bits. Mann's filming, the writing, the story, acting of Tom and Jamie, the character of Vincent. As I understood some people don't find this movie all that good but for me it hits all the right spots.
One of my favorite villains of all time. Also, coincidentally, one of my favorite analyses as well.
Dude! This guy was in my head just yesterday! "I do this for a living!"
It's great to see how many people this film resonates with. Very underrated film, and personally one of the most memorable antagonists I've seen on film.
Another good villain to analyze. Loving these vids. This is one of my favorite Tom Cruise roles.
Vincent was a perfect sociopath. He’s calm and collected, almost seems dead inside..
He does comment, he's only been working in the private sector for five years. By the public sector, he presumably means he was a government employee, Special Forces, CIA, FBI Shadow Company, who knows? Maybe his nihilism is just part of his philosophical makeup, he doesn't care because he's a soldier doing a job of work, like he's always been. Back home with the wife and kids, maybe you see a different side to him.
Calm and collected in the face of danger, just means you have faced danger before and your will to live and use logic to survive, trumps the primative part of your brain screaming run
@@asmith1711 Just a bad ass soldier then?
@@onastick2411 Vicent was special forces/Green Beret before joining a PMC. A precise killer to say the least
I watched collateral yesterday and immediately checked to see If there was an analyzing evil episode on Vincent and who would guess, there it is the next day! The Vile Eye has blessed us with another masterpiece. Guess you could say this was another cosmic coincidence in our speck of the universe ;)
I just discovered you Vile Eye, I am loving the content. I love learning about villains and anti heroes, the more evil , the better. Thank you
He isn't evil, just extremely pissed he's like 5"7 tall.
@@MM-eo2oz they speak as if they're 6'2
there are lots of evil manlets
He's average height for the time
Omg lmao
@@MM-eo2oz Difference is Pacino doesn't try to hide his real height like Tom does
I watched this back when it came out, and really liked it. Watched it again a couple weeks ago, then came across this video. Thanks for the analysis.
Oh fuck i never thought I'd ever get a video about this but he's absolutely one of my favs
I liked your mini lecture on “empathetic/positive nihilism” and creating your own meaning/purpose in life when there is none. I’ve heard about this thinking once before, and I admit that I find something attractive about that kind of thinking.
Another great presentation as always!
Existentialism is what positive nihilism really is.
I LITERALLY just finished my 3rd rewatch of Collateral. Amazing timing.
This! Love this movie. Great breakdown, editing, and love the sinister music.
I love how you are able to dissect villians to their core elements so we can their thoughts ambitions and dreams. What motivates them, and why they are the way they are. It reminds us that although these people are fictitious. They're characteristics are all too human. That evil is lurking somewhere in us all. And that is the most frightening thing.
We all have evil in us it's just up to the person if they let put the evil
Tom cruise was perfect as this character.
I'M CASTOR TROY!!
Bro your videos are so much fun. Thanks for the great work
Imagine having Vincent be your next door neighbor... That will be a pretty safe community I'd wager. Plus he seems like the kind of guy that will help your mother take out her garbage. I'd have a beer with the guy anytime.
Tom Cruise was excellent in his performance. Possibly my favorite hitman on film
I saw this thumbnail of my homepage and couldn't WAIT. One of my all-time favorite movies with one of my all-time favorite antagonist.
Vincent probably found a home in the military or in an intelligence agency. Damaged men can be moulded into instruments of death.
Idea for Analyzing Evil: John Milton from The Devil’s Advocate.
Milton from Office Space.
X2
Thats kind of redundant since he is supposed to be a literal incarnate of Satan. Lomax would be better or both since they play off of eachother.
@@paingain100 interesting thought, but still…Milton’s a great villain, and a great interpretation of the Devil.
He’s literally Satan so that would probably be kind of boring.
I would categorize Vincent as a "Dark Empath", someone with narcissistic tendencies (as you mentioned when he asks himself "how can I make this world better for me, since it dosen't matter") but still enough empathy to connect with people on a somewhat real level. This makes the dark empath able to actually connect and understand other people on more than the superficial level of sociopaths and psychopaths. I don't agree with the fact that he has an abundance of empathy, since a person with an abundance of empathy. One defined as an empath (not a dark empath). Won't really be able, due to their personality, to kill or even hurt others for their own gain. They might be able to do it to defend themselves or others, but not for personal gain.
Apart from that, I really enjoyed the episode and I'm looking forward to the next one =)
Dark Empath.... Now that is interesting.
He’s more Machiavellian
It is hard. My empathy for people I know is 9/10 but strangers 0/10. Two extremes
oooookkkkaaaayy then .......
Interesting I was looking up that term dark impasse a couple days ago I can truly relate I used to be very empathetic but my life has brought me around too many vampiric sociopath that suck your goodness I have lost my empathy it's a shame really
I discovered this movie thanks to you, I completely glossed over it back in 2010 due to the name as it seemed generic from the title and film poster. Thank you for opening my eyes. I watched part of your episode, realised it was deeper than it seemed, watched the movie, now I'm back to analyze Vincent.
Tom Cruise's Vincent from Collateral is my favorite acting performance of all time.
Stumbled across this movie a few years back and absolutely adored it as a film... still holds up today.
I love how the film doesn’t give too much away about Vincent,Who is he??Wheres he from??Whats his background??Who does he actually work for??How many hits has he previously done??Thats what makes this film great,
Thank you, had been recommending this for a while!!!
Tom Cruise's best performance by far, completely against type from his usual roles. Keep up the good work man, maybe you could do an analysis of Frank Booth from Blue Velvet next?
Keep these coming mate. Love your work
highly underrated movie
It’s a modern day classic
It's not underrated anymore when everyone calls it underrated.
@@LumpyAdams it is beciase it’s not talked about when this movie came out I didn’t even bother to watch it I saw it the other day and I’m pissed i didn’t see after all these years everyone would rather talk about John wick rather than this and this movie makes John wick look like a marvel movie and that’s not a compliment to marvel movies
One of my favourite films and one of Tom Cruise's best yet most underrated performances