Fun fact: In the books, Baghera the panther was born in captivity, and raised by humans. He eventually got free, but he chose to watch over Mowgali to repay his debt.
Fun Fact: Disney Legend animator Andreas Deja credits seeing The Jungle Book when he was 11 with inspiring him to become an animator, which may explain why some of Scar's animation and mannerisms (while completely different in many respects) do vaguely resemble Shere Khan in some areas
In fact, he stated that he actually decided to not watch any footage of Shere Khan from the original movie because he didn’t want to take too much from Milt Kahl’s animation of the character, and the entire reason he wanted to work on The Lion King in the first place was because he wanted to animate animals thanks to his love of Jungle Book, since everyone else at the studio wanted to work on Pocahontas instead.
Only Shere Khan us more brave unlike Scar who turns cowardly, Shere Khan never does and km not counting the fire tied to him as who wouldn't freak out on there backside burning.
I’ll say this: as bad as Jungle Book 2 is, having Shere Khan want revenge against Mowgli, while seemingly a generic motivation makes a lot of sense for Khan. Tigers are known for retaliating against those who did them wrong and even tracking down specific hunters for revenge and killing them.
I actually thought that Jungle Book, too, was quite interesting, although what concerns me, is if they make a live action remake of jungle book 2 considering how the live action may make our jungle book one turn out. Honestly, I think they should have still kept sharing on alive. In the live action adaptation, at least for a sequel.
Talespin feels like a concept a kid who is playing with his Jungle Book plush toys would come up with and that´s surprisingly pretty refreshing. I used to watch this show when I was very very little.
The Disney comics introduced additional "TaleSpin" villains. One story featured an air corps of vicious dogs who were thinly veiled Nazis, complete with German accents. Bagheera, meanwhile, was reimagined as Captain Quarry, a pilot who was also a gangland assassin - or, as Baloo called him, "the king of goons." A few other black panthers in pilot gear can be seen throughout the comics; they are apparently also mercenaries.
TaleSpin was actually intended to be a DuckTale Spin-Off (you can even see Tale Spin in the middle there) starring Launchpad McQuack, hence the focus on planes.
King Louie may be a party animal, but if you REALLY watch his body language, he's still subtly intimidating. He's very hands-on, always grabbing Mowgli and turning him around in ways that keep him off balance so he can't get a hold of the situation. His "I'll do a favor for you if you do a favor for me," has a very mob boss undertone to it, which the lyrics make more apparent when Mowgli says he doesn't know how to make fire and Louie assumes that the kid is lying. Personally, I think the "I want to be like you" is a lie. What he really wants is the power and he's just saying what he thinks Mowgli will sympathize with.
I believe King Louie did really want to be like Mowgli, but he didn’t really understand what Mowgli was like. King Louie wants to be like man with how much power he has, but he fails to see that Mowgli is ignorant of what it means to be a human himself.
Honestly, I think he does wanna be like Mowgli. Cause Mowglis man, and everyone fears man. When he says he wants to be like him, I always thought he’s referring to wanting to be like man, and men like him can burn down the forest with their red flower. If everything surrounding him wasn’t so upbeat, this guy would be a horrifying villain
My cousin was afraid of Winnie the Pooh because of Kaa. The funny thing was my uncle and aunt had NO possible link as to why winnie the pooh scared her so much. Until that was, an episode of Twilight Zone with STerling Holloway came on (you know the one), and my cousin walks by, hears Holloway talk, and screams "IT'S KAA!"
I’m no expert of spooky franchises like The Twilight Zone, but even as a Disney nerd, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of Sterling Holloway in the Twilight Zone!
"Of all the villains, the remake has the most fun with King Luie. Ironic, this is done by making him less funny" Christopher Walken way of acting in nutshell. If it is for him to play a funny character he plays serious. If he has to play serious character, he plays funny.
Fun Fact: George Sanders and Vincent Price share three striking similarities in terms of playing villains: They both voiced Disney villains (Sanders voiced Shere Khan and Price voiced Professor Ratigan), they both played villains in Cecil B. DeMille biblical epics (Sanders played the Saran of Gaza in Samson and Delilah (1949) and Price played Baka in The Ten Commandments (1956)), and both played Batman villains in the Adam West Batman series (Sanders played Mr. Freeze and Price played Egghead).
Egghead is my favorite Batman villain. I like everything Vincent Price has ever done. He was really good in the Song of Bernadette as well. He wasn't really a villain in that film, just a non-believer in the miracle at Lourdes.
Interestingly enough, Vincent Price was actually considered for the voice of Shere Khan. It's great that he got to voice another great Disney villain in Professor Ratigan in 1986's The Great Mouse Detective.
Although I’ve always preferred Kaa from the books, where he was a kind, wise friend to Mowgli, I can’t help but love the Disney version of the character. He’s creepy, cute, funny and charming at the same time. Which is amazing given his limited screentime in which he only serves as a reason for Mowgli to leave the jungle. He still manages to display a lot of personality. For example, he shows a mild form of sadism by gloating to his victims about the total dominion he has over them when he puts them in a trance, but he has his limits as he shows by giving Mowgli a merciful death instead of constricting the life out of him. Furthermore, the deeper meaning of the scene with Kaa and Shere Khan is often overlooked. It shows that Kaa’s ultimate goal is simply to survive like any other animal. While Shere Khan hunts for sport and pleasure to assert himself as the ruler of the jungle. In addition to that, I also really loved how creative the animators were with Kaa. Especially with how he used his coils in such an expressive way, like they were an extension of his personality. I also find Disney's take on Shere Khan very interesting. In the books he was more like Scar from Lion King in terms of personality. That is, he was primarily an intellectual threat rather than a physical threat. But Disney made Shere Khan more of an English governor type and the whole jungle has fearful respect for him. As for King Louie, who was not in the books, he is one of the most entertaining villains out there. He acts a lot like a night club owner and his sinister nature is very subtle.
Also that one scene where he says "poor helpless little boy" and feels bad for him but then he remembers his intentions and loses all of his empathy for him
@@blackwidow3734 I think he still felt bad for Mowgli for being hunted by Shere Khan. But like I said, Kaa's reason for killing Mowgli is nothing personal as he's just a hungry predator.
Did you ever misheard a word when watching a movie ? For example during Bagrara and Baloo's conversion when Bagrara says " You wouldn't marry a panther would you ?" I thought it was marry a pencil. And in Monsters Inc when discussion why leaving a door open is bad and the monster in training answers " It could let in a draft " I thought it was giraffe.
I usually hate shows that babify existing characters, but Jungle Cubs is extremely underrated. I loved some of the character dynamics and I could easily believe that they were all friends at one point. If you ask me, it definitely adds more depth to the characters of the original movie.
I wish the same could have been done to Jake and the never land pirates. I watched the first episode when I was 7 and I was expecting to see Hook as his villainous self and to see Jake and Hook in a sword fight but no. I still liked the show but I wanted it to resemble the first and second Peter Pan. The only babyish change I liked was tick tock croc. He was more adorable than menacing.
This was always my thought. Watching Jungle Cubs made me go back to the original movie over and over and see how sad it really is that they were so close as cubs only to grow apart as adults. Shere Khan took his hunting more seriously. Louie becomes King and also becomes insane. Kaa is just hungry. Hathi stays on friendly-ish terms with Bagheera at least but is a full time General. Baloo and Bagheera remain close friends.
I've always seen Louie's desire for fire as him thinking it's what made apes evolve into men. I think he somehow knows human and apes have a common ancestor and if he knows how to make fire, he'll evolve into a human.
I mean, my friends also werent ready to hear "Zootopia abortion comic is about Judy Hopps having abortion, which results in her being assasinated like JFK" Same energy imo
@@melodica_man0216 oh thank god There isn’t to much stuff because, I already have a Disney character that I have looked up and I saw something not ok things of him.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who found Jungle Cubs depressing as a kid. They were such good friends, what could've gone so wrong? You know I heard somewhere that Jungle Book 3 would have revealed that the reason Shere Khan hated man so much was because hunters shot his mom who we see is still alive in Jungle Cubs. Headcanon: being confronted by the sudden death of one of their friends' parents was the inciting incident that broke the group with Shere Khan becoming bitter and hard, Kaa running to hide in the trees, Bagera trying to become more mature and accidentally pushing everyone further apart, Haiti adopts a more militaristic mindset to protect himself and his herd, Baloo lives in denial, while Louie decides to try learning more about man to prevent a similar tragedy in the future eventually becoming so obsessed he forgets why he wants to be more like man and just wants the power of man’s red flower. Or maybe I'm also overthinking a kid's cartoon 😁
@@vetarlittorf1807 True but it’s fun to pretend otherwise. I liked the Robot Chicken theory that Jungle Book is actually the result of Baloo losing his memories after a secret mission in Talespin with Louie as his secret handler in case he regains his memories.
The 1967 Jungle Book was where my phobia of snakes originated and it made me afraid to look my own grandmother in the eye. Why? Because she sounded exactly like Sterling Holloway's voice for Kaa, so in my 5-year-old mind, I honestly thought Kaa was impersonating my grandma like the wolf in Red Riding Hood, so I would not make eye contact with her for the longest time. In 2010, I discovered that not only did she sound like Sterling Holloway she even looked like Sterling Holloway in his old age and I could not have known this at the time when I was 5. It's like my paranoia was not too far off base. You gotta admit that's kinda funnny.
@@Heavenlywi1d Oh, I've learned fact from fiction since then, of course. My phobia of snakes is relegated to venomous ones. I've trained my eyes to see rattlesnakes through their camouflage, even baby rattlers. Funny enough, I'm the year of the snake.
Something to note about Louie making more appearances recently that likely has to do with Prima’s widow passing away in 2012, and I think she was the only one in her family championing for royalties. Great work Colin!
I think Louie will appear again in another animated Jungle Book sequel, but still as an orangutan, rather than being a Gigantopithecus as in the live action version and it’s upcoming sequel.
1:24 - Thank you for acknowledging Soyuzmultfilm's adaptation of The Jungle Book. I consider this and Disney's not only my favourite adaptations of the same source material, but also my favourite animated films.
I recall reading that Walt’s push for having the film be a lighter adaptation of the novel might’ve had something to do with his declining health at the time. It’s easy to see why he wanted to move away from a darker story if he knew that he didn’t have much time left to live - not exactly the sort of note you’d want to end your career on.
If you were to ask me why Shere Khan works so well as the villain in The Jungle Book (on top of the gorgeous animation and George Sanders) It's the build up to him showing up. I mean, how many other Disney villains are hinted at from the very beginning and then through the whole movie there's this sense of dread and then fade to black then bam there he is in all his power.
Even as a kid I remember appreciating the hell out of that, being left in mystery of it all that it’s a big fucking deal when he finally shows up and oozes with every ounce of reputation he’s built himself upon
Yeah, I’ve always loved Shere Khan as kid. He was calm, funny, and sophisticated, but you’ve always felt his intimidation. For me, he’s definitely up there with the Renaissance villains.
Though they only start hyping him up at around the start of the third act, the Headless Horseman gets a fair amount of buildup, and it’s very effective.
I never watched Jungle Cubs as a kid but I would say, my head cannon is that when Kahn's grandmother died he snapped and that's what destroyed their friendship
Always loved the Disney version of Kaa the snake. Even if he is a creepy predatory python, there is something important when it comes to teaching kids about Stranger Danger these days and I think Kaa has a perfect villain role to be a caution to never trust everyone no matter how they first appear to be. Still an important and timeless message regardless of how others who are easily offended might think of it.
I'm one of the biggest Jungle Book fans there is, and I've gotta say this video blows all other Jungle Book retrospectives out of the water in terms of the breadth and depth of the content and knowledge! Very impressive! It's especially lovely to see Chris Schnaebel's illustrations and Al Hubbard's comic art getting the love they deserve, and I was surprised you even dug up some of the rarer Dutch Donald Duck comics! I'd like to offer a few additional pieces of trivia to complement the great content of the video: [CONTINUES] ====================== PRE-DISNEY JUNGLE BOOK TRIVIA: - The Disney pronunciation of 'Mowgli' was inherited from the 1942 Jungle Book movie by the Korda brothers. This was released 15 years before the animated Disney film and was a hugely successful film of the period, making full use of Technicolor to depict vibrant jungle scenes. Members of the production team would have certainly have seen it, and other features invented by the Korda film like Mowgli's bright red cloth came to feature in Disney's version too. - The Jungle Book elephant designs, some of the elephant animations, and some of the Jungle Book's transitional instrumental music were taken from the same director's earlier 1960 short animated Disney movie 'Goliath II'. If you go watch it, it's striking how much of it fed into the JB! - Many of Khan's and Bagheera's animations were rotoscoped (traced) from the earlier 1964 Disney movie 'A Tiger Walks'. - In 1964 Sterling Holloway, the voice of Kaa, narrated several of Rudyard Kipling's 'Just So' animal stories for Disneyland Records, including one where he read the dialogue of a python! ====================== JUNGLE BOOK 1967 TRIVIA - The video mentions the cut 'The Mighty Hunters' song from Peet's original version - but for those unaware, there was a demo recording made of it! Demos were made for several songs that were deleted from the final movies, and it sounds to me like Thurl Ravenscroft's band 'The Mellomen' sang the demos. In the final version of the movie, The Mellomen sang 'Hathi's March', and as the video states: Bill Lee of the Mellomen voiced Khan's singing line. In particular, the deleted 'Song of the Seeonee' has a lot of the same vibes as the Mellomen's dog vocals in 'He's a Tramp', and I'm pretty sure you can hear Thurl Ravenscroft's deep Tony the Tiger/Grinch voice among the singers. - It's mentioned that the rest of the monkeys are voiced collectively by Bill Skiles and Pete Henderson, but Sam Butera also has a minor uncredited role voicing some of the monkeys' lines. Sam Butera was the leader of Louie Prima's backing group 'The Witnesses', and he voices the minor monkey lines "Yeah ha-ha, a big hothead!", "That's how a bear can rest at ease..." and "Yeah, that's him!" - The change in Kaa's design between his first scene and his second scene may be down to the fact that Milt Kahl animated the first and Frank Thomas animated the second. ================== OTHER MEDIA TRIVIA: JB 2016 - The 2016 film's version of 'Trust in Me' during the credits reintroduces an additional verse that was originally cut from the Sherman Brothers' 1967 version. - The 2016 King Louie scenes appear to be heavily influenced by old illustrations of Bill Peet's original story. There are Peet illustrations of King Louie looming large in very similar darkly lit temple, with a very similar throne, while Mowgli stands next to a pile of fruit on the ground. It's clear that director Jon Favreau took a lot of inspiration from Peet's sketches! MOWGLI'S STORY - Tabaqui the jackal is often portrayed as a hyena in visual adaptations so he isn't confused for a wolf (Shōnen Mowgli [1989 anime], Mowgli's Story [1998], Mowgli [2018 Serkis] ). - Eartha Kitt indeed plays Bagheera in Mowgli's story, but she ALSO previously played a female Kaa in the BBC's 1995 radio series adaptation of the Jungle Book! This makes her the only major actor to have played two separate main Jungle Book characters (if you don't count the prolific Jim C!) JUNGLE CUBS - For those who don't know, young Khan's voice actor Jason Marsden also played Kovu in The Lion King 2! An effective actor for sweet big cats trying to come across as mean! BALOO'S VIRTUAL SWINGIN' JUNGLE CRUISE - The 40th anniversary (2007) special edition DVD of the Jungle Book includes an interactive animation called 'Baloo's Virtual Swingin' Jungle Cruise', featuring some new 2D animation clips of Baloo and 3D scenery of the jungle - incorporating background art from the original 1967. The 'camera' POV floats downstream through the jungle scenery as if you're riding on Baloo, until you are whisked away by monkeys through 3D scenery of Louie's part of the jungle. Jim C reprises his role as Hathi and there are a series of 'games' to play. These attempt to innovatively use a DVD remote's menu arrows to simulate a game by skipping between mp4 files when an arrow combo is pressed, but it hasn't aged well! KINGDOM HEARTS - A beta Jungle Book world was developed for 'Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep', but the world was eventually cut from the game. Although the world was cut, the unfinished level is still in the game code of the released Japanese version, and the level can be explored with hacks. The level features unfinished jungle scenery including King Louie's throne area, but no characters.
Ah, I’ve been looking for a JB expert, so if you don’t mind me asking do you know where I can find the comics? Been hunting for them for ages. I’d ask Colin but I’m not sure he responds to replies anymore. I’d like to try and translate a few of the Dutch ones.
As entertaining as Winnie the Snake is, Kaa really got a raw deal in the movie, going from a character that even Shere Khan would have been wary if not outright fearful of to being the butt of the joke. Kipling's description of Kaa includes something along the lines of "imagine a hammer weighing a quarter of a ton driven by a cool, quiet mind in the handle of it."
I prefer Disney Kaa but I do have to say, I agree that they could have leaned into his intimdating side a bit more. His fear of Shere Khan in the Disney version seems misplaced, considering pythons his size could definitely hold their own against tigers.
The jungle book is one of my favorite Disney films, I even enjoyed the 2016 remake! Also did you know Shere Khan was a nightmare to animate because of his stripes? Each scene he’s in his stripes are different
Interesting, I heard a similar reason why Jasmines pet tiger from Aladdin didn’t make many appearances after the first movie was because even his stripes were also a pain to animate.
Since Edgar from The Aristocats is coming soon to your Disney Villains Retrospective. I wanted to bring up that Edgar actually made his Disney Parks debut at a Disneyland Paris Event a couple years ago (I believe it was for a Jazz-themed event held at Walt Disney Studio's Park). As of 2022, he hadn't show up at the other Disney Parks. Update: Looks like Edgar made his U.S. Parks debut at Villains Nite! at Disneyland in DC recently.
Ahh but Edgar has appeared in one other park, this year in fact! He was at a special event in Disney’s California Adventure called Villains Nite! :D The video of him is found right here:. th-cam.com/video/40Wkg_UASH0/w-d-xo.html
Isn't there a lot of controversy around Edgar? I tried to watch Aristocats on Disney Plus it warned me about offensive material to people of certain sexuality.
I don't think Disney quite understands how much potential a TaleSpin reboot has. They seem to be sticking with the duck characters of their Disney Afternoon universe for now, but it's not like they don't have the characters with designs for the modern day. They already have Don Karnage, Kit, and Molly, and we have had cameo mentions of Baloo and Cape Suzette. It wouldn't be difficult to do a good show with a serialized plot and a lot of fun episodes. I never really saw much of the original show and I would still adore a reboot.
There’s a video of Jim Cummings saying, “Let’s Get Dangerous”, as a compilation of his iconic voices. When it came to Kaa, he asked not to do that one, since it was Evil Winnie the Pooh. I found that funny.
@@Ozzygirl17 I think Kaa must be one of those ones where Cummings can't keep a straight face considering it was Evil Winnie the Pooh... he would've been taking ages because he would've been laughing too much.
Not gonna lie, for years I was wondering why an orangutan in The Jungle Book; after seeing the live-action remake, I actually like the idea they had to make Louie a Gigantopithecus instead of an orangutan. I learned shortly after I saw the film that the giant ape actually did once exist in India, which would put the storyline at least 2000 years ago. Also, Shere Kahn hating humans is actually based off real behavioral patterns in tigers; tigers are among the only animals that will kill out of revenge (ex. Siegfried and Roy, any tiger attack that takes place in a zoo)
I don't care about it as much as I used to, but both spotted ("laughing") hyenas and baboons are African animals, not Indian ones. India has a geography and climate very similar to that of much of Africa, but its wildlife is still distinct. India is one of the most zoologically diverse places on Earth, containing a mix of different "races" of animals. However, its zoological makeup is basically a combination of Middle Eastern and Southeast Asian species, with no particularly African elements. Speaking of diversity, THE JUNGLE BOOK is set near the real-life village of Seeonee (as Louie mentions in the 2016 remake) in the south of the state of Madhya Pradesh in central India, near the border of Maharashtra. This is probably the single most ethnically diverse region of India, where all of the strains that have gone into the creation of Indian culture - except for the European strains, since Madhya Pradesh lacks truly large cities - come together to form a melting pot. The area around Seeonee, for example, is one of the last remaining parts of India where Sri Lankan Buddhism is still practiced.
Jim Cummings is legendary if you know how many Disney characters he did over the years. The Jungle Book sequel and Tail Spin spinoff series were where Jim really shined with many of his voice roles. Anyone who can sound so good as the hypnotic python Kaa deserves my respect.
@@dragonstarplanet I also noticed at the end of the Jungle Book villain retrospective video. You have Don Carnage from Tail Spin teaming up with Fat Cat from Rescue Rangers. It's literally Jim Cummings having a conversation with Jim Cummings.
It's been 3,000 years! Also, The Jungle Book 2 was a wasted opportunity to add Tabaqui to the Disney canon, since Kaa said he never wanted to see Mowgli again after their second encounter.
Jungle Book 2 had a lot of wasted opportunities, but adding Tabaqui was not one of them. The real missed opportunity was not giving the wolves a bigger role.
@@Heavenlywi1d True, but he also has some sadistic traits. Like how he toys with Mowgli with his coils while he's hypnotized and how he whispered into Shanti's ear that he's going to eat her while she was hypnotized and completely helpless.
I'm glad you agreed about the 2016 being pretty good, mainly with the characters. I found Kaa particularly haunting because of how surprisingly realistic she is in terms of reptile biology, as in her personality. She doesn't seem to have much morality (nor much inflection in her voice), moreso just showing Mowgli what he wants before going in for her prey. She has some personality, but is otherwise very much how I feel a sapient snake would behave given their more limited emotions than other animals. She's less "evil". King Louie was awesome, too. I dig the unhinged mafia don idea so much.
After watching this video, now I really wish they made the 2016 version of Kaa Mowgli's ally later on. That would've helped pay tribute to the original source material and give Kaa the added screen time that she deserves.
@@sarahsims6164 Indeed. Snakes are truly wonderful creatures and don't deserve the bad rep they get. Kaa and Mowgli's relationship in the books was one of the best parts of the story. Heck, ScarJo's voice would have been a perfect opportunity to convey a mysterious yet motherly version of Kaa, since they insisted on a female version in the remake. Oh well, at least we have Cate Blanchett Kaa in the Netflix version. Still, the best Kaa so far is Vladimir Ushakov from the Russian version.
@@vetarlittorf1807 yeah, I understand that snakes were a symbol of evil, but that was a long time ago. Sure, back when they made the first movie it worked, but this is the 21st century, they should've changed it. I would've loved to see a more motherly figure of Kaa.
Great video as always, I didn’t know about the legal problems with King Louie, but I always wondered why they couldn’t use him in the House of Mouse. Fun Fact: King Louie appeared in the comics “Fables” because the creator thought he was a character from the original book, instead of an invention for the Disney’s movie.
Hi Colin! Just wanted to say that I've throughly enjoyed these retrospectives of yours so far, & thanks to them, I've learnt a lot more about my favourite Disney villains than I otherwise would have. This is probably my most anticipated one yet, as Shere Khan & Kaa are two of my favourites, & I'm looking forward to seeing you cover more iconic villains from the House of Mouse in the future!
*14:20** Quick note:* Shere Khan is not unaffected by Kaa's hypnosis, he just backed away, closed his eyes and bonked Kaa on the head, as he knows his tricks, but if he were to look at Kaa's eyes as he uses his hypnosis, i think it wouldn't be too farfetched to think that Shere Khan would be mind-controlled by the python.
@@TheRandomZooVisitor They sort of did, they mention something of the sort when Mufasa was teaching his son near the beginning. Simba: “but dad don’t we eat the antelope?” Mufasa: “Yes Simba, but let me explain. When we die our bodies become the grass and the antelope eat the grass. And so, we are all connected to the great circle of life.” So the the lions of pride rock still hunt and eat meat, though it implies they eat in moderation and only hunt and eat when they need to eat to maintain a delicate balance in their ecosystem. The hyenas were giant greedy gluttons who just kill and eat without care, breaking the ecosystem which resulted in running the whole area into the ground, and now they had nothing to eat after neglecting the circle of life.
I have a vague memory of some behind the scenes show or clip where they were talking about a show/performance of "Jungle book"...where they had to scrap a massive Kaa puppet because it was too difficult to move on set. I'm not even sure if it was a real thing from t.v or if I just dreamed it. I have this memory of a massive puppet moving around, with lit up swirling eyes.
One important yet overlooked aspect of Kaa is when , having finished his conversation with Shere Kahn , he shows disgust at the Tiger for his sadistic pursuit of a defenseless victim and takes pity on Mowgli .Until his Hypnotic Eyes appear again for a moment and he shakes and shudders before going back to toying with and trying to eat Mowgli .Has Kaa essentially hypnotized himself to be lile he is most of the time ? .Could he have something similar to Dissociative Personality Disorder with one Personality dominating the other ? .Or was it just a sudden quirk of the character ? .
I could see a tailspin version of Kaa being an opportunistic criminal, less inclined for large scale and long term schemes and more for spur of the moment crimes that benefit him in some way, maybe making use of his hypnotic ability to ensure he lives like a king.
I'd see him sort of a "Godfather" type figure in a mafia, his hypnotic powers as a subtext for how the Mafia bribe people and sweep things under the rug while also being the vehicle to influence others around him. I also like to think he'd have a comedic xenophobia for bears as an in-joke on the two major voice actors known for Kaa...
Jungle Book is without a doubt one of my all time favorite Disney Franchises! I’m so glad that you gave Talespin its own section. It really is a fantastic and underrated cartoon! I love visiting the world of Talespin! Don Karnage truly is a fantastic character! I wouldn’t mind seeing him in his own proper movie someday! Very good job compiling all this together in one video!
Can't believe I am nearly caught up with all the Villains videos made to date! I am going to be at a loss! Haha Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your efforts and passion. You don't only delve into and dissect the characters, the history, and developments, but you give such a great platform for so many of the talented artists and actors and creators. It's really quite wonderful.
I adore Disney's Kaa, even as a villain. He's so sneaky and a little bit seductive. Plus, he was voiced by Sterling Holloway, who was much of my childhood despite passing away a year before I was born. Wished I could've met him, and while Jim Cummings is a good replacement, no one can really 100% replicate Sterling's silky, soft voice. And, as much as I adore the Disney version of The Jungle Book, I have to give a shout out to the Jungle Book anime made in 1989, Shonen Mowgli. It's much closer to the book -- not exact, but an entertaining rendition. Like in the book, Kaa's a good guy! In fact, he comes across baby Mowgli (or rather, baby Mowgli comes across him) in the first episode. No hypnosis, though, via eyes or dance :(
I freaking loved watching the talespin series. As a kid i was always curious in why these characters now live like people and wear clothes, but i still loved watching this show. Also! I wonder if talespin is one of the reasons in why fans love coming up with au's of their favorite shows, movies, etc 😁
Me too. I still have one of the VHS Tapes of Tale Spin. It was awesome even thou it's like an alternative universe where Mowgli didn't appear and had exclusive characters.
This was surprisingly enjoyable. Thank you very much for bringing so many of these forgotten movies, plays, and tv series to my attention. I applaud you for all the hard work you put into researching for this. 🙏👏👏
I just remembered in TailSpin, there actually was a snake that resembled Kaa in one episode, albeit it was only on screen in a few seconds. Baloo and Rebecca briefly get separated in a jungle after a zepplin they were traveling in crashes. The snake jumps Rebecca and tries to constrict her but Baloo quickly dispatches it.
I remember Jungle Cubs, really funny how the animals from the original Jungle Book film were all friends when they were younger. Kaa not being able to hypnotize anyone as a young snake was funny, especially when everyone else pretended to be hypnotized when young Kaa started to experiment with his hypnotic spiral eyes. Young Kaa: "Look into my eyes, you are all under my power." Everyone: "Yes Kaa, we are under your power" Young King Louie: "Especially Baloo."
Finally you back great work man now I can't wait to see you talk Robin Hood Villains like Prince John and Sheriff of Nottingham and then Bronze/Dark Age Disney Movies and villains like Horned King(Black Cauldron), Medusa (Bernardo and Bianca) and Ratagan (Great Mouse Detective)
You know, it was stated in the commentary that Bill Lee was Shere Kahn's singing voice, but most of us think that was a mistake and that it was actually Thurl Ravenscroft. Lee wasn't known for having that low a voice. Also, while that bit about Shere Kahn being more a jungle lord than a villain in the 1994 movie is mostly true, don't forget he did trespass on the man village and kill Mowgli's father. Just thought I'd point that out. Good call on the part about Bill Peet leaving the studios at this time. If you read his autobiography, he actually included specific dialogue that led up to it.
One of my friends, years ago, lied to me and said that there was a post-credits scene of The Jungle Book where Shere Khan jumped into a river to get rid of the fire attatched to his tail. Do you know how disappointed I was when I saw through the entire credits (as a young seven year old whose attention span was not that good) and the movie just...ended?
Jungle book is my all time favorite Disney film both the classic 1967 animated film and the 2016 CGI film and the Japanese anime series as well as the sequel and the jungle cub’s series. Kaa is my favorite villain with his hypnotic power’s and bewitching song Trust in Me, Shere Khan second who rules the jungle by striking fear and cunning over the animals and King Louie third with his desire for man’s red fire and his jazzy music song I Wannabe like you. Thanks for a very interesting insight into each character and keep up the good work 👍
29:59 - OK Off Topic but 1994 Jason Scott Lee as Mowgli? Ugh Oh I can't even... *Chef's Kiss* -- SO fine. Prolly my first major crush as a kid. WAY too much *man* there guy had muscles in places I didn't even know had places. LOL rant over *swoon*
@@vetarlittorf1807 That's a fair point. BUT I agree with the OP - he WAS a sight especially in the 90s. PRobably the only instance where it will ever be appropriate to say that because JSL was/is an adult in the movie and not a child. (he's not all that bad looking in the new Mulan either but nowhere near what he was at his peak)
@@ladylin1992 Especially that first scene that shows him transition to manhood and the camera pans up over his 8-pack torso? *omg* The first ten minutes of his screen time is like Mr. Fanservice moment after Mr. Fanservice moment 😍🤩
@@ladylin1992 I mean, Mowgli is meant to be very handsome as he grows older, to the point where an unnamed village girl is lovestruck seeing him. So I guess they got that part right...
As light hearted as “The Jungle Book” (a movie that premiered when my dad was only 4) was, Kaa and/or Shere Khan scared me so much as a kid that I was too terrified to watch it all the way through until I was close to 11. Considering I’ve seen arguably scarier scenes from “Snow White and the Seven Dwarves” and “Bambi” without issue, I still find it puzzling this movie scared me for as long as it did.
If it helps, I found Kaa terrifying as a kid as well. I always looked away at his creepy hypnosis scene. (The first one mainly). Not even The night on bald Mountain sequence from Fantasia scared me that much.
I am very pleased to see USSR Jungle Book cartoon used in this video. It was one of my favourite animations as a kid, and I am happy to see it having some niche fame outside of Russia. It is a great cartoon
This ended up in my recommended videos and was the first video of yours I'd seen as far as I know- time to go back and watch the rest of this series before the heffalumps and woozles episode comes out! I mostly had this playing as background noise while I sew, but there were parts where I turned my attention back to the screen for storyboards, concept art, and video clips I'd never seen or heard of before Keep up the good work! 👍
Bagara: why are you so mean? We used to be friends. Sher Khan: I remembered things differently. For one thing, we wore clothes, stood on two legs and Baloo drove an airplane. I also was a corrupt businessman. Baloo: What?
@51:55- OMG I remember seeing this show when my family went to Disney Land in 1991! My jaw dropped seeing chars from cartoons I did watch in the late 80s/early 90s! We did have a VHS recording of that trip, which does include most of that show.
Disney’s Jungle book sure has plenty of light comedic moments but I do feel it does have lots of serious somber ones as well. So I understand the change. But the original sounds interesting as well.
For those of you wondering where you can find the stage musical adaptation of “The Jungle Book”, as far as I can recall, he got the clips from a video that showed the musical in its entirety from someone who managed to record it. Unfortunately, given TH-cam’s frivolous copyright nonsense, they took the video down, essentially unfairly depriving any viewers that were unable to see the show in its entirety just because they weren’t in a city where the show happened to be playing. HOPEFULLY, someday it’ll pop up again, because having seen it in its entirety a few months back before it got taken down, I can genuinely say it was an AMAZINGLY well done stage musical that should’ve gone to Broadway. From the costumes, to the puppetry (seriously LOVE the puppet they used for Kaa in the first scene, they nailed the actual movements of a real snake, even down to having the underside of Kaa’s head nearly touch the ground while he’s moving), to the set design, the score (which manages combine Indian music with jazz phenomenally well, including for “I Wanna Be Like You) and even the actors they to got to portray the characters from the movie this was by and far one of the best stage musical adaptations of a Disney film I’d seen in a long time. What especially worked is that it not only struck a better balance of being faithful to the spirit of the movie while still expanding on it by incorporating aspects from the book (when compared to the 2016 live action remake), but it was shockingly much more willing to be dark like the book was. For example, the fact that Shere Khan actually succeeded at killing the deer he originally stalked from the movie was already surprising enough, since the movie would never’ve allowed that… But that scene went the extra mile in two ways: 1.) Shere Khan did this while singing his own villain song, which happened to be about the inevitability of death. And it wasn’t even something big and bombastic since it was honestly more subdued, almost like a waltz really. And yet, even if you didn’t know what the “unexpected friend” Shere Khan was referring to, you couldn’t quite help but be on edge because of how uneasy it made you feel. As a result, it genuinely felt like a song that would’ve fit him PERFECTLY in the original movie, given how elegant and dignified yet ominous it was in parts of the song. 2.) Again, the show having Shere Khan succeed in killing the deer was already surprising enough, but what made it far more shocking and ballsy is that rather having it be implied offstage or even hidden behind a set piece? By the end of the song, with no obstruction to speak of, after courteously allowing the doe to drink from the pond? Shere Khan ended his prey’s life with a single, yet elegant swipe of the paw that BROKE HER NECK, showcasing just how POWERFUL a tiger can truly be, with the red lighting after the killing blow adding a striking effect and cements an image of the King of Tigers standing over the body of the prey whose blood he spilt with ease. And it to top it all off? As befitting the title of the song, it was impeccably UNEXPECTED since, well, you don’t even see it COMING since a scene like that would NEVER have been green-lit for the movie. Stuff like that, in my opinion, are why I think it’s a damn shame it never made it to Broadway, because if this and other Disney stage musicals on Broadway are of any indication, they’re a HELL lot better than these live action movie remakes in the past few years (granted I do still the 2016 Jungle Book remake but as I mentioned, there was a better balance between the elements of the original movie and the elements from the original book). What I think puts the stage musicals ABOVE the live action remakes is that not only is there much more artistic flexibility, but there’s a lot more creativity and PASSION put into them while still respecting the spirit of the movies, even being a bit more willing to be much darker in some aspects. It’s why the Broadway musical version of “The Lion King” is still beloved to this day, while the live action remake is basically a shot for shot remade dumpster fire filled with souless, expressionless cgi mannequins. Overall, the stage musical adaptation of “The Jungle Book” by the Goodman Theater is proof of how much of a waste of time, money and energy the live action remakes were when we already had damn good remakes in the form of Disney’s stage musical adaptations.
It's interesting about the perception of Kaa and Louie now that you mentioned them. With Kaa, people hold him as one of the examples of someone getting a villainous upgrade due to his status as a snake. However, I do think the first movie shows us again and again even though he's more comedic than his book counterpart he is not harmless which the second movie sadly did. And I can say your analysis of him shows that if Kaa got character rerailment he would get back his villain cred as a dangerous threat because again this guy could have not only eaten Mowlgi but also Baheera since he was pissed off. Also as said the original film really makes you forget that technically Louie is a villain but it's because he's so affable you forget that he's willing to kidnap and misuse a dangerous element for his own use. Louie in my opinion is more likely to make a Heel Face Turn out of them all but he just has to learn a good lesson about not being irresponsible and selfish. Also nice dig at Edgar because ha ha he is one of the lamer villains.
You used to work at the parks. That's awesome. Also after seeing these media I guess I would have clarify Louie and not truly evil, but rather someone who doesn't know what he's doing at points, but also an anti hero with other appearances, fitting for the Banderlog ans how they don't get it. That would be interesting to explore.
Funny how Disney was against a snake as a heroic character when in more shows and movies there's a good snake, Lola Boa From Brandy and Mr Whiskers, Larry from The Wild, Snake and Mouse from Fish Hooks , Slips from Gym Partner, Craig from Sanjay and Craig , Garden snake from Little Bear , and Slimey from the Simpsons.
Fun fact. As backup plans just in case a Season 4 happened the original Don Karange's fate was going to be revaled. Meaning that Jim Cummings would've probably reprised the role.
Also, the Talespin version of Shere Khan has to be my favorite corporate villain in any media that I've seen. He's antagonistic, intimidating, clearly not afraid to slide the law, but he still has a strong sense of personal morality. There are lines he won't cross, but they are lines HE draws, not anyone else. My favorite quote from the series is this, "My dear, I desire only two things: money and power. Unpresentable employees provide me with neither." This is said in response to him finding out that two of his managers were abusing employees in a mine he owned and explaining why he sided with the miners instead of the managers.
THANK YOU for the correct pronunciation. It drives me crazy when people don't know. I mean, I get it and I don't blame them. Disney rules most people's childhoods.
On the subject of games, Jungle Book was intended to make an appearance in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, but got cut. The world is still in the game's data but it's empty. Judging by the fact you have 3 playable characters and they all encountered different characters from the Disney Worlds, there's a good chance all the villains would have appeared in one form or another.
I think Boldeo should have been in Jungle Book 2. The cheapquel age really was lazy about premises. Seriously, who wouldn't want Mowlgi go up against the embodiment of why he doesn't want to be human. And he could have faced off against Shere Khan again with Boldeo also at his heeled. Shanti and Mowlgi's adoptive brother could still be there but the big aim is now Boldeo could be using Shere Khan as an excuse to go on a big hunting spree.
It should be noted that George Sanders also originated the role of "Batman" villain Mr. Freeze, and that by portraying him with a German accent (Sanders actually being Russian by birth and not English, by the way) he set the pattern for the eventual "Victor Fries" character brought to the big screen by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Unfortunately, it seems to be the TV performance of Otto Preminger (who, like Schwarzenegger, was Austrian) that is remembered most by Mr. Freeze fans nowadays.
13:29-13:40. ☮️ Yup. Spiraling eyes as a 60s trait. Takes me back to the setting of The Minions Movie when the minions hypnotized the Buckingham guards (minus the well-trained elderly guard of the crown).
I discovered this series of videos three days ago and have since binged every part. These are absolutely phenomenal, well crafted essays that have been nothing but a delight to watch! I considered myself a diehard fan and still have learned a lot through these :) I can’t wait for the next installments! Keep up the fantastic work!
I'd use my comment here to say that Jungle Book is one of my favorites, the BEST of the new remakes, and how Talespin is even better, BUT I'd be remiss in mentioning the most obscure piece of Jungle Book media, the "Say no to Strangers" classroom video. Not nearly as remembered or as well documented as the House at Pooh Corner one, this video basically said the same things, but utilizing clips of the movie narrated by Baloo. Otherwise unremarkable, there is one line that always stuck with me. They used the Louie scene for the obvious "don't get lead in by strangers or accept anything from them," message, but what was really interesting is Baloo made it a point to mention that him and Louie became great friends later (kinda muddies the don't trust strangers bit). Now this was probably around the time Talespin was in production when this was made, but it seems they were destined to make Baloo and Louie buddies and re-contextualize Louie entirely to just be a fun-loving goofball, not a true villain.
Depending on how long this retrospective series runs for, and if you’ll even remember this comment, for next year’s April Fools it’d be hilarious if you did an entry for Quest For Camelot.
Fun fact: In the books, Baghera the panther was born in captivity, and raised by humans. He eventually got free, but he chose to watch over Mowgali to repay his debt.
@@haroldhall1517 i was wondering that , i watched both jungle book movies and was disappointed why we never know why bageera wants mowgli to be save
@@Nanago-lf1lj he was ordered by a pack of wolves to watch over mowgli until he leads him into the village
Fun Fact: Disney Legend animator Andreas Deja credits seeing The Jungle Book when he was 11 with inspiring him to become an animator, which may explain why some of Scar's animation and mannerisms (while completely different in many respects) do vaguely resemble Shere Khan in some areas
That's funny. Because Shere Khan in the original books was pretty much like Scar in personality and mannerisms.
In fact, he stated that he actually decided to not watch any footage of Shere Khan from the original movie because he didn’t want to take too much from Milt Kahl’s animation of the character, and the entire reason he wanted to work on The Lion King in the first place was because he wanted to animate animals thanks to his love of Jungle Book, since everyone else at the studio wanted to work on Pocahontas instead.
Only Shere Khan us more brave unlike Scar who turns cowardly, Shere Khan never does and km not counting the fire tied to him as who wouldn't freak out on there backside burning.
The same mood of a character, to be fair.
Dude Andreas Deja is one of my faves
I’ll say this: as bad as Jungle Book 2 is, having Shere Khan want revenge against Mowgli, while seemingly a generic motivation makes a lot of sense for Khan. Tigers are known for retaliating against those who did them wrong and even tracking down specific hunters for revenge and killing them.
Plus shere khan voice is perfect.
Plus it brings to mind a different Khan
@@skibot9974 plus. I literally imagined frollo as a tiger
I actually thought that Jungle Book, too, was quite interesting, although what concerns me, is if they make a live action remake of jungle book 2 considering how the live action may make our jungle book one turn out. Honestly, I think they should have still kept sharing on alive. In the live action adaptation, at least for a sequel.
What I got from that, tigers are basically petty animals
Talespin feels like a concept a kid who is playing with his Jungle Book plush toys would come up with and that´s surprisingly pretty refreshing. I used to watch this show when I was very very little.
The Disney comics introduced additional "TaleSpin" villains. One story featured an air corps of vicious dogs who were thinly veiled Nazis, complete with German accents. Bagheera, meanwhile, was reimagined as Captain Quarry, a pilot who was also a gangland assassin - or, as Baloo called him, "the king of goons." A few other black panthers in pilot gear can be seen throughout the comics; they are apparently also mercenaries.
TaleSpin was actually intended to be a DuckTale Spin-Off (you can even see Tale Spin in the middle there) starring Launchpad McQuack, hence the focus on planes.
King Louie may be a party animal, but if you REALLY watch his body language, he's still subtly intimidating. He's very hands-on, always grabbing Mowgli and turning him around in ways that keep him off balance so he can't get a hold of the situation. His "I'll do a favor for you if you do a favor for me," has a very mob boss undertone to it, which the lyrics make more apparent when Mowgli says he doesn't know how to make fire and Louie assumes that the kid is lying.
Personally, I think the "I want to be like you" is a lie. What he really wants is the power and he's just saying what he thinks Mowgli will sympathize with.
I believe King Louie did really want to be like Mowgli, but he didn’t really understand what Mowgli was like. King Louie wants to be like man with how much power he has, but he fails to see that Mowgli is ignorant of what it means to be a human himself.
Same. If it wasn’t for I Wanna Be Like You, that scene would be a lot creepier.
The 2016 remake definitely plays the creepiness inherent to the character and motivation of King Louie for all it's worth.
Honestly, I think he does wanna be like Mowgli. Cause Mowglis man, and everyone fears man. When he says he wants to be like him, I always thought he’s referring to wanting to be like man, and men like him can burn down the forest with their red flower. If everything surrounding him wasn’t so upbeat, this guy would be a horrifying villain
@@dabatman5187 That's one way to put it, yes.
My cousin was afraid of Winnie the Pooh because of Kaa.
The funny thing was my uncle and aunt had NO possible link as to why winnie the pooh scared her so much. Until that was, an episode of Twilight Zone with STerling Holloway came on (you know the one), and my cousin walks by, hears Holloway talk, and screams "IT'S KAA!"
I’m no expert of spooky franchises like The Twilight Zone, but even as a Disney nerd, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of Sterling Holloway in the Twilight Zone!
@@princesspixel3151 He played a TV repairman in an episode.
"Of all the villains, the remake has the most fun with King Luie. Ironic, this is done by making him less funny"
Christopher Walken way of acting in nutshell.
If it is for him to play a funny character he plays serious. If he has to play serious character, he plays funny.
i think the only exception to that is his role as Max Shreck in Batman Returns.
@@jolliwoodstudios There was also Cutter from Antz, it was a mostly serious role and he played him pretty straight.
Uno reverse card?
@@jolliwoodstudios I always thought the idea was for him to play sinister villain and even then he had goofy moments.
Is this a critic to him? I can't tell...
Fun Fact: George Sanders and Vincent Price share three striking similarities in terms of playing villains: They both voiced Disney villains (Sanders voiced Shere Khan and Price voiced Professor Ratigan), they both played villains in Cecil B. DeMille biblical epics (Sanders played the Saran of Gaza in Samson and Delilah (1949) and Price played Baka in The Ten Commandments (1956)), and both played Batman villains in the Adam West Batman series (Sanders played Mr. Freeze and Price played Egghead).
Egghead is my favorite Batman villain. I like everything Vincent Price has ever done. He was really good in the Song of Bernadette as well. He wasn't really a villain in that film, just a non-believer in the miracle at Lourdes.
Vincent Price also voiced January Irontail.
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Interestingly enough, Vincent Price was actually considered for the voice of Shere Khan. It's great that he got to voice another great Disney villain in Professor Ratigan in 1986's The Great Mouse Detective.
Although I’ve always preferred Kaa from the books, where he was a kind, wise friend to Mowgli, I can’t help but love the Disney version of the character. He’s creepy, cute, funny and charming at the same time. Which is amazing given his limited screentime in which he only serves as a reason for Mowgli to leave the jungle. He still manages to display a lot of personality. For example, he shows a mild form of sadism by gloating to his victims about the total dominion he has over them when he puts them in a trance, but he has his limits as he shows by giving Mowgli a merciful death instead of constricting the life out of him. Furthermore, the deeper meaning of the scene with Kaa and Shere Khan is often overlooked. It shows that Kaa’s ultimate goal is simply to survive like any other animal. While Shere Khan hunts for sport and pleasure to assert himself as the ruler of the jungle.
In addition to that, I also really loved how creative the animators were with Kaa. Especially with how he used his coils in such an expressive way, like they were an extension of his personality.
I also find Disney's take on Shere Khan very interesting. In the books he was more like Scar from Lion King in terms of personality. That is, he was primarily an intellectual threat rather than a physical threat. But Disney made Shere Khan more of an English governor type and the whole jungle has fearful respect for him.
As for King Louie, who was not in the books, he is one of the most entertaining villains out there. He acts a lot like a night club owner and his sinister nature is very subtle.
Then, he becomes a hero in Tale Spin.
Also that one scene where he says "poor helpless little boy" and feels bad for him but then he remembers his intentions and loses all of his empathy for him
@@blackwidow3734 I think he still felt bad for Mowgli for being hunted by Shere Khan. But like I said, Kaa's reason for killing Mowgli is nothing personal as he's just a hungry predator.
Did you ever misheard a word when watching a movie ? For example during Bagrara and Baloo's conversion when Bagrara says " You wouldn't marry a panther would you ?" I thought it was marry a pencil.
And in Monsters Inc when discussion why leaving a door open is bad and the monster in training answers " It could let in a draft " I thought it was giraffe.
Yeah Kaa is pretty cool and his hypnosis eyes are creative
I wonder if I can find any good artworks of him on deviantart (clueless)
I usually hate shows that babify existing characters, but Jungle Cubs is extremely underrated. I loved some of the character dynamics and I could easily believe that they were all friends at one point. If you ask me, it definitely adds more depth to the characters of the original movie.
I wish the same could have been done to Jake and the never land pirates. I watched the first episode when I was 7 and I was expecting to see Hook as his villainous self and to see Jake and Hook in a sword fight but no. I still liked the show but I wanted it to resemble the first and second Peter Pan. The only babyish change I liked was tick tock croc. He was more adorable than menacing.
I think Jungle Cubs is in a parallel universe of its own now.
This was always my thought. Watching Jungle Cubs made me go back to the original movie over and over and see how sad it really is that they were so close as cubs only to grow apart as adults.
Shere Khan took his hunting more seriously.
Louie becomes King and also becomes insane.
Kaa is just hungry.
Hathi stays on friendly-ish terms with Bagheera at least but is a full time General.
Baloo and Bagheera remain close friends.
I've always seen Louie's desire for fire as him thinking it's what made apes evolve into men. I think he somehow knows human and apes have a common ancestor and if he knows how to make fire, he'll evolve into a human.
21:23 I was not ready to hear the phrase "Baloo has gone into a deep depression", that almost killed me.
I mean, my friends also werent ready to hear "Zootopia abortion comic is about Judy Hopps having abortion, which results in her being assasinated like JFK"
Same energy imo
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153Holy fuck this fucking comic is mentioned whenever I expect it the least lmao.
It haunts me and the whole fandom.
Kaa was everyone’s introduction to the hypnosis kink.
And he’s pretty much the mascot of it too.
Vore as well. Just search for he channel “Kaarzan” here on TH-cam. It’s extremely creepy and downright p*dophilic.
Yep and it’s understandable why
I also think of that Cobra snake from Ninjago
As someone into hypno I can confirm that most kinksters have him as pfp
it's so true that it hurts >
Ah Kaa, one of the many Disney characters you should never google
DANG IT now I’m tempted to look it up!!
I have a feeling I know what the results would be
edit: googled him, and while there was some cursed stuff, it wasn’t anything too bad
@@melodica_man0216 oh thank god There isn’t to much stuff because, I already have a Disney character that I have looked up and I saw something not ok things of him.
He is the reason why people are into hypnosis aa
Thanks, I need to Google him for a cosplay idea an now I am scared
Glad to know I'm not the only one who found Jungle Cubs depressing as a kid. They were such good friends, what could've gone so wrong? You know I heard somewhere that Jungle Book 3 would have revealed that the reason Shere Khan hated man so much was because hunters shot his mom who we see is still alive in Jungle Cubs. Headcanon: being confronted by the sudden death of one of their friends' parents was the inciting incident that broke the group with Shere Khan becoming bitter and hard, Kaa running to hide in the trees, Bagera trying to become more mature and accidentally pushing everyone further apart, Haiti adopts a more militaristic mindset to protect himself and his herd, Baloo lives in denial, while Louie decides to try learning more about man to prevent a similar tragedy in the future eventually becoming so obsessed he forgets why he wants to be more like man and just wants the power of man’s red flower. Or maybe I'm also overthinking a kid's cartoon 😁
I don't think Jungle Cubs is canon to the movies anymore than TaleSpin is.
@@vetarlittorf1807 True but it’s fun to pretend otherwise. I liked the Robot Chicken theory that Jungle Book is actually the result of Baloo losing his memories after a secret mission in Talespin with Louie as his secret handler in case he regains his memories.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I consider it more canon than Stitch Anime .
You are not overthinking it, that is a brilliant theory.
But Hey! Hillbilly baboons.
The 1967 Jungle Book was where my phobia of snakes originated and it made me afraid to look my own grandmother in the eye. Why? Because she sounded exactly like Sterling Holloway's voice for Kaa, so in my 5-year-old mind, I honestly thought Kaa was impersonating my grandma like the wolf in Red Riding Hood, so I would not make eye contact with her for the longest time. In 2010, I discovered that not only did she sound like Sterling Holloway she even looked like Sterling Holloway in his old age and I could not have known this at the time when I was 5. It's like my paranoia was not too far off base. You gotta admit that's kinda funnny.
Hopefully you realized that snakes are misunderstood and got over your phobia. And don't mock one of my favorite Disney animals ever, okay?
@@Heavenlywi1d Oh, I've learned fact from fiction since then, of course. My phobia of snakes is relegated to venomous ones. I've trained my eyes to see rattlesnakes through their camouflage, even baby rattlers. Funny enough, I'm the year of the snake.
Something to note about Louie making more appearances recently that likely has to do with Prima’s widow passing away in 2012, and I think she was the only one in her family championing for royalties. Great work Colin!
I think Louie will appear again in another animated Jungle Book sequel, but still as an orangutan, rather than being a Gigantopithecus as in the live action version and it’s upcoming sequel.
I love how king Louie in the remake had a cowbell. Makes sense since they’re in India, but it’s a nice Easter egg and nod to Christopher Walker on SNL
1:24 - Thank you for acknowledging Soyuzmultfilm's adaptation of The Jungle Book. I consider this and Disney's not only my favourite adaptations of the same source material, but also my favourite animated films.
I recall reading that Walt’s push for having the film be a lighter adaptation of the novel might’ve had something to do with his declining health at the time. It’s easy to see why he wanted to move away from a darker story if he knew that he didn’t have much time left to live - not exactly the sort of note you’d want to end your career on.
If you were to ask me why Shere Khan works so well as the villain in The Jungle Book (on top of the gorgeous animation and George Sanders) It's the build up to him showing up. I mean, how many other Disney villains are hinted at from the very beginning and then through the whole movie there's this sense of dread and then fade to black then bam there he is in all his power.
Maybe Captian Hook? They kinda do that at the start
Even as a kid I remember appreciating the hell out of that, being left in mystery of it all that it’s a big fucking deal when he finally shows up and oozes with every ounce of reputation he’s built himself upon
Yeah, I’ve always loved Shere Khan as kid. He was calm, funny, and sophisticated, but you’ve always felt his intimidation. For me, he’s definitely up there with the Renaissance villains.
Though they only start hyping him up at around the start of the third act, the Headless Horseman gets a fair amount of buildup, and it’s very effective.
In the early films the villains are often only appear at the end.
My head canon is that the more unhinged the villains got the more their friendship crumbled
How about the hillbilly baboons.
I never watched Jungle Cubs as a kid but I would say, my head cannon is that when Kahn's grandmother died he snapped and that's what destroyed their friendship
Always loved the Disney version of Kaa the snake.
Even if he is a creepy predatory python, there is something important when it comes to teaching kids about Stranger Danger these days and I think Kaa has a perfect villain role to be a caution to never trust everyone no matter how they first appear to be.
Still an important and timeless message regardless of how others who are easily offended might think of it.
Same here since I was a kid in the 90's.
No snake is creepy, and you know it. And as a Kaa fan, I think of him as not a villain.
I'm one of the biggest Jungle Book fans there is, and I've gotta say this video blows all other Jungle Book retrospectives out of the water in terms of the breadth and depth of the content and knowledge! Very impressive! It's especially lovely to see Chris Schnaebel's illustrations and Al Hubbard's comic art getting the love they deserve, and I was surprised you even dug up some of the rarer Dutch Donald Duck comics! I'd like to offer a few additional pieces of trivia to complement the great content of the video: [CONTINUES]
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PRE-DISNEY JUNGLE BOOK TRIVIA:
- The Disney pronunciation of 'Mowgli' was inherited from the 1942 Jungle Book movie by the Korda brothers. This was released 15 years before the animated Disney film and was a hugely successful film of the period, making full use of Technicolor to depict vibrant jungle scenes. Members of the production team would have certainly have seen it, and other features invented by the Korda film like Mowgli's bright red cloth came to feature in Disney's version too.
- The Jungle Book elephant designs, some of the elephant animations, and some of the Jungle Book's transitional instrumental music were taken from the same director's earlier 1960 short animated Disney movie 'Goliath II'. If you go watch it, it's striking how much of it fed into the JB!
- Many of Khan's and Bagheera's animations were rotoscoped (traced) from the earlier 1964 Disney movie 'A Tiger Walks'.
- In 1964 Sterling Holloway, the voice of Kaa, narrated several of Rudyard Kipling's 'Just So' animal stories for Disneyland Records, including one where he read the dialogue of a python!
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JUNGLE BOOK 1967 TRIVIA
- The video mentions the cut 'The Mighty Hunters' song from Peet's original version - but for those unaware, there was a demo recording made of it! Demos were made for several songs that were deleted from the final movies, and it sounds to me like Thurl Ravenscroft's band 'The Mellomen' sang the demos. In the final version of the movie, The Mellomen sang 'Hathi's March', and as the video states: Bill Lee of the Mellomen voiced Khan's singing line. In particular, the deleted 'Song of the Seeonee' has a lot of the same vibes as the Mellomen's dog vocals in 'He's a Tramp', and I'm pretty sure you can hear Thurl Ravenscroft's deep Tony the Tiger/Grinch voice among the singers.
- It's mentioned that the rest of the monkeys are voiced collectively by Bill Skiles and Pete Henderson, but Sam Butera also has a minor uncredited role voicing some of the monkeys' lines. Sam Butera was the leader of Louie Prima's backing group 'The Witnesses', and he voices the minor monkey lines "Yeah ha-ha, a big hothead!", "That's how a bear can rest at ease..." and "Yeah, that's him!"
- The change in Kaa's design between his first scene and his second scene may be down to the fact that Milt Kahl animated the first and Frank Thomas animated the second.
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OTHER MEDIA TRIVIA:
JB 2016
- The 2016 film's version of 'Trust in Me' during the credits reintroduces an additional verse that was originally cut from the Sherman Brothers' 1967 version.
- The 2016 King Louie scenes appear to be heavily influenced by old illustrations of Bill Peet's original story. There are Peet illustrations of King Louie looming large in very similar darkly lit temple, with a very similar throne, while Mowgli stands next to a pile of fruit on the ground. It's clear that director Jon Favreau took a lot of inspiration from Peet's sketches!
MOWGLI'S STORY
- Tabaqui the jackal is often portrayed as a hyena in visual adaptations so he isn't confused for a wolf (Shōnen Mowgli [1989 anime], Mowgli's Story [1998], Mowgli [2018 Serkis] ).
- Eartha Kitt indeed plays Bagheera in Mowgli's story, but she ALSO previously played a female Kaa in the BBC's 1995 radio series adaptation of the Jungle Book! This makes her the only major actor to have played two separate main Jungle Book characters (if you don't count the prolific Jim C!)
JUNGLE CUBS
- For those who don't know, young Khan's voice actor Jason Marsden also played Kovu in The Lion King 2! An effective actor for sweet big cats trying to come across as mean!
BALOO'S VIRTUAL SWINGIN' JUNGLE CRUISE
- The 40th anniversary (2007) special edition DVD of the Jungle Book includes an interactive animation called 'Baloo's Virtual Swingin' Jungle Cruise', featuring some new 2D animation clips of Baloo and 3D scenery of the jungle - incorporating background art from the original 1967. The 'camera' POV floats downstream through the jungle scenery as if you're riding on Baloo, until you are whisked away by monkeys through 3D scenery of Louie's part of the jungle. Jim C reprises his role as Hathi and there are a series of 'games' to play. These attempt to innovatively use a DVD remote's menu arrows to simulate a game by skipping between mp4 files when an arrow combo is pressed, but it hasn't aged well!
KINGDOM HEARTS
- A beta Jungle Book world was developed for 'Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep', but the world was eventually cut from the game. Although the world was cut, the unfinished level is still in the game code of the released Japanese version, and the level can be explored with hacks. The level features unfinished jungle scenery including King Louie's throne area, but no characters.
Ah, I’ve been looking for a JB expert, so if you don’t mind me asking do you know where I can find the comics? Been hunting for them for ages. I’d ask Colin but I’m not sure he responds to replies anymore. I’d like to try and translate a few of the Dutch ones.
Let's not forget how Kaa started the Hypno craze on the internet.
True that. It’s a rabbit hole.
I could’ve lived without this knowledge
Yup.
Look up Kaa on the internet, and I bet you it won’t take you long to find someone’s hypno art featuring him.
I looked up about hypnosis and discovered some people are aroused by it. I think the kaa hypnosis is like porn to them.
As entertaining as Winnie the Snake is, Kaa really got a raw deal in the movie, going from a character that even Shere Khan would have been wary if not outright fearful of to being the butt of the joke. Kipling's description of Kaa includes something along the lines of "imagine a hammer weighing a quarter of a ton driven by a cool, quiet mind in the handle of it."
I prefer Disney Kaa but I do have to say, I agree that they could have leaned into his intimdating side a bit more.
His fear of Shere Khan in the Disney version seems misplaced, considering pythons his size could definitely hold their own against tigers.
Its pretty sweet your using scenes from the Russian version of The Jungle Book movie; which is another great version that's rarely been discussed!
The jungle book is one of my favorite Disney films, I even enjoyed the 2016 remake!
Also did you know Shere Khan was a nightmare to animate because of his stripes? Each scene he’s in his stripes are different
Interesting, I heard a similar reason why Jasmines pet tiger from Aladdin didn’t make many appearances after the first movie was because even his stripes were also a pain to animate.
Since Edgar from The Aristocats is coming soon to your Disney Villains Retrospective. I wanted to bring up that Edgar actually made his Disney Parks debut at a Disneyland Paris Event a couple years ago (I believe it was for a Jazz-themed event held at Walt Disney Studio's Park). As of 2022, he hadn't show up at the other Disney Parks.
Update: Looks like Edgar made his U.S. Parks debut at Villains Nite! at Disneyland in DC recently.
Ahh but Edgar has appeared in one other park, this year in fact! He was at a special event in Disney’s California Adventure called Villains Nite! :D The video of him is found right here:. th-cam.com/video/40Wkg_UASH0/w-d-xo.html
Isn't there a lot of controversy around Edgar? I tried to watch Aristocats on Disney Plus it warned me about offensive material to people of certain sexuality.
@@TheRandomZooVisitor There isn't any controversy around Edgar. That goes to one of the Scat Cats.
@@nyanpirethecat2257 Specifically Shun Gong
@@austinreed7343 Some people just couldn't take a joke; at least Speedy Gonzales was respected by the Mexican community.
I don't think Disney quite understands how much potential a TaleSpin reboot has. They seem to be sticking with the duck characters of their Disney Afternoon universe for now, but it's not like they don't have the characters with designs for the modern day. They already have Don Karnage, Kit, and Molly, and we have had cameo mentions of Baloo and Cape Suzette. It wouldn't be difficult to do a good show with a serialized plot and a lot of fun episodes. I never really saw much of the original show and I would still adore a reboot.
I could never take the python seriously when he was voiced by Winnie the Pooh
Jim Cummings.
and That is how Kaa gets you...
There’s a video of Jim Cummings saying, “Let’s Get Dangerous”, as a compilation of his iconic voices. When it came to Kaa, he asked not to do that one, since it was Evil Winnie the Pooh. I found that funny.
@@Ozzygirl17 I think Kaa must be one of those ones where Cummings can't keep a straight face considering it was Evil Winnie the Pooh... he would've been taking ages because he would've been laughing too much.
@@SantiagoRevecoLepeReborn No, Sterling Holloway.
Not gonna lie, for years I was wondering why an orangutan in The Jungle Book; after seeing the live-action remake, I actually like the idea they had to make Louie a Gigantopithecus instead of an orangutan. I learned shortly after I saw the film that the giant ape actually did once exist in India, which would put the storyline at least 2000 years ago.
Also, Shere Kahn hating humans is actually based off real behavioral patterns in tigers; tigers are among the only animals that will kill out of revenge (ex. Siegfried and Roy, any tiger attack that takes place in a zoo)
I don't care about it as much as I used to, but both spotted ("laughing") hyenas and baboons are African animals, not Indian ones. India has a geography and climate very similar to that of much of Africa, but its wildlife is still distinct. India is one of the most zoologically diverse places on Earth, containing a mix of different "races" of animals. However, its zoological makeup is basically a combination of Middle Eastern and Southeast Asian species, with no particularly African elements.
Speaking of diversity, THE JUNGLE BOOK is set near the real-life village of Seeonee (as Louie mentions in the 2016 remake) in the south of the state of Madhya Pradesh in central India, near the border of Maharashtra. This is probably the single most ethnically diverse region of India, where all of the strains that have gone into the creation of Indian culture - except for the European strains, since Madhya Pradesh lacks truly large cities - come together to form a melting pot. The area around Seeonee, for example, is one of the last remaining parts of India where Sri Lankan Buddhism is still practiced.
@@SeasideDetective2 I didn’t know that.
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Although India still has its own hyenas.
Although they are of the striped variety, instead of spotted.
Jim Cummings is legendary if you know how many Disney characters he did over the years.
The Jungle Book sequel and Tail Spin spinoff series were where Jim really shined with many of his voice roles.
Anyone who can sound so good as the hypnotic python Kaa deserves my respect.
Indeed. Plus I met him once at a convention.
@@dragonstarplanet I also noticed at the end of the Jungle Book villain retrospective video.
You have Don Carnage from Tail Spin teaming up with Fat Cat from Rescue Rangers.
It's literally Jim Cummings having a conversation with Jim Cummings.
@@TBoneTony Yep. In Plane Crazy as the coolest live action Disney Crossover in Disney World.
He also voiced King Triton in The Little Mermaid: Ariel’s Beginning, due to Kenneth Mars (RIP) falling ill with pancreatic cancer.
It's been 3,000 years!
Also, The Jungle Book 2 was a wasted opportunity to add Tabaqui to the Disney canon, since Kaa said he never wanted to see Mowgli again after their second encounter.
Jungle Book 2 had a lot of wasted opportunities, but adding Tabaqui was not one of them. The real missed opportunity was not giving the wolves a bigger role.
I would love loved if they added him and Buldeo.
This is why I feel bad for Kaa being mistaken for a "villain" just because of hunger.
@@Heavenlywi1d True, but he also has some sadistic traits. Like how he toys with Mowgli with his coils while he's hypnotized and how he whispered into Shanti's ear that he's going to eat her while she was hypnotized and completely helpless.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I wouldn't blame him, pythons gotta eat too.
I'm glad you agreed about the 2016 being pretty good, mainly with the characters. I found Kaa particularly haunting because of how surprisingly realistic she is in terms of reptile biology, as in her personality. She doesn't seem to have much morality (nor much inflection in her voice), moreso just showing Mowgli what he wants before going in for her prey. She has some personality, but is otherwise very much how I feel a sapient snake would behave given their more limited emotions than other animals. She's less "evil". King Louie was awesome, too. I dig the unhinged mafia don idea so much.
After watching this video, now I really wish they made the 2016 version of Kaa Mowgli's ally later on. That would've helped pay tribute to the original source material and give Kaa the added screen time that she deserves.
That would've been so cool
Apparently Disney doesn't like the idea of friendly snakes.
@@vetarlittorf1807 that's ridiculous, and I agree that would've been awesome; oh well, good thing we have fanfiction for that.
@@sarahsims6164 Indeed. Snakes are truly wonderful creatures and don't deserve the bad rep they get. Kaa and Mowgli's relationship in the books was one of the best parts of the story. Heck, ScarJo's voice would have been a perfect opportunity to convey a mysterious yet motherly version of Kaa, since they insisted on a female version in the remake. Oh well, at least we have Cate Blanchett Kaa in the Netflix version.
Still, the best Kaa so far is Vladimir Ushakov from the Russian version.
@@vetarlittorf1807 yeah, I understand that snakes were a symbol of evil, but that was a long time ago. Sure, back when they made the first movie it worked, but this is the 21st century, they should've changed it. I would've loved to see a more motherly figure of Kaa.
The Jungle Book 2 actually takes place 2 years after the original, not just few months.
Is there a source that specifies either way?
@@JayKreuz Mowglie doesnt look any older than in the first film .
@@nicholassims9837 Actually, he looks and sounds older. Not to mention he's more mature than he was in the first film.
Random but I just love Tony Jay in that, it’s literally why I watch it.
The 2016 jungle book will have a sequel released in 2026. Hopefully, it’s going to be pretty amazing.
5:28 Shere Khan
11:41 Kaa
16:44 King Louie
49:04 Don Carnage
53:13 Colonel Ivanov Spigot
54:25 Trader Mo
5:28 Shere Khan
11:41 Kaa
16:44 King Louie
20:43 Flunky Monkey
26:14 Shere Khan (2016)
27:33 Kaa (2016)
28:18 King Louie (2016)
30:50 Captain William Bloom
31:20 Willckins and Harley
31:30 Boldeio and Thabaqi
36:20 Arthur and Cecil
36:48 The Baboons
37:16 Dolves
37:37 Cobra
47:30 President Shere Khan
49:04 Don Carnage
50:32 Mad Dog
50:49 Dumbtruck
51:09 Jiber
53:13 Novembrians
54:25 Trader Mo
55:11 Thadeus Klang
Great video as always, I didn’t know about the legal problems with King Louie, but I always wondered why they couldn’t use him in the House of Mouse.
Fun Fact: King Louie appeared in the comics “Fables” because the creator thought he was a character from the original book, instead of an invention for the Disney’s movie.
What is that the comic that mowgli is a girl and three other kids on the jungle island?
Hi Colin! Just wanted to say that I've throughly enjoyed these retrospectives of yours so far, & thanks to them, I've learnt a lot more about my favourite Disney villains than I otherwise would have. This is probably my most anticipated one yet, as Shere Khan & Kaa are two of my favourites, & I'm looking forward to seeing you cover more iconic villains from the House of Mouse in the future!
33:04 Likely yes
Hyenas are incredibly trainable to be pets or hunters, to the point that ancient Egyptians trained them
46:30 I'm really digging Shere Khan's outfit in this theatrical performance. It's dripping fire~
I wonder who recorded it.
I still have this movie on VHS from my other family and it’s really nice to give it a watch every now and then. Shere Khan is awesome!
😎 👍
*14:20** Quick note:* Shere Khan is not unaffected by Kaa's hypnosis, he just backed away, closed his eyes and bonked Kaa on the head, as he knows his tricks, but if he were to look at Kaa's eyes as he uses his hypnosis, i think it wouldn't be too farfetched to think that Shere Khan would be mind-controlled by the python.
It's kinda interesting that Scar from the lion king is similar to Shere khan.
Either the 1994 original classic or the 2019 live-action remake
except Scar is an outcast rather than a feared predator, which lion king doesnt really have a predator prey system til the hyenas take over
@@TheRandomZooVisitor They sort of did, they mention something of the sort when Mufasa was teaching his son near the beginning.
Simba: “but dad don’t we eat the antelope?”
Mufasa: “Yes Simba, but let me explain. When we die our bodies become the grass and the antelope eat the grass. And so, we are all connected to the great circle of life.”
So the the lions of pride rock still hunt and eat meat, though it implies they eat in moderation and only hunt and eat when they need to eat to maintain a delicate balance in their ecosystem. The hyenas were giant greedy gluttons who just kill and eat without care, breaking the ecosystem which resulted in running the whole area into the ground, and now they had nothing to eat after neglecting the circle of life.
33:00 "I don't know why Tabequi is a hyena and not a jackal" Probably because of the popularity of The Lion King
I have a vague memory of some behind the scenes show or clip where they were talking about a show/performance of "Jungle book"...where they had to scrap a massive Kaa puppet because it was too difficult to move on set. I'm not even sure if it was a real thing from t.v or if I just dreamed it. I have this memory of a massive puppet moving around, with lit up swirling eyes.
One important yet overlooked aspect of Kaa is when , having finished his conversation with Shere Kahn , he shows disgust at the Tiger for his sadistic pursuit of a defenseless victim and takes pity on Mowgli .Until his Hypnotic Eyes appear again for a moment and he shakes and shudders before going back to toying with and trying to eat Mowgli .Has Kaa essentially hypnotized himself to be lile he is most of the time ? .Could he have something similar to Dissociative Personality Disorder with one Personality dominating the other ? .Or was it just a sudden quirk of the character ? .
Dang that's an interesting theory.
I could see a tailspin version of Kaa being an opportunistic criminal, less inclined for large scale and long term schemes and more for spur of the moment crimes that benefit him in some way, maybe making use of his hypnotic ability to ensure he lives like a king.
I'd see him sort of a "Godfather" type figure in a mafia, his hypnotic powers as a subtext for how the Mafia bribe people and sweep things under the rug while also being the vehicle to influence others around him. I also like to think he'd have a comedic xenophobia for bears as an in-joke on the two major voice actors known for Kaa...
Louis Prima, what a singer. I think I heard the original somewhat, it’s quite great.
Jungle Book is without a doubt one of my all time favorite Disney Franchises! I’m so glad that you gave Talespin its own section. It really is a fantastic and underrated cartoon! I love visiting the world of Talespin! Don Karnage truly is a fantastic character! I wouldn’t mind seeing him in his own proper movie someday! Very good job compiling all this together in one video!
Can't believe I am nearly caught up with all the Villains videos made to date! I am going to be at a loss! Haha
Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your efforts and passion. You don't only delve into and dissect the characters, the history, and developments, but you give such a great platform for so many of the talented artists and actors and creators. It's really quite wonderful.
Just know I love these retrospectives and appreciate the work you put into them
I adore Disney's Kaa, even as a villain. He's so sneaky and a little bit seductive. Plus, he was voiced by Sterling Holloway, who was much of my childhood despite passing away a year before I was born. Wished I could've met him, and while Jim Cummings is a good replacement, no one can really 100% replicate Sterling's silky, soft voice.
And, as much as I adore the Disney version of The Jungle Book, I have to give a shout out to the Jungle Book anime made in 1989, Shonen Mowgli. It's much closer to the book -- not exact, but an entertaining rendition. Like in the book, Kaa's a good guy! In fact, he comes across baby Mowgli (or rather, baby Mowgli comes across him) in the first episode. No hypnosis, though, via eyes or dance :(
I freaking loved watching the talespin series. As a kid i was always curious in why these characters now live like people and wear clothes, but i still loved watching this show. Also! I wonder if talespin is one of the reasons in why fans love coming up with au's of their favorite shows, movies, etc 😁
Me too. I still have one of the VHS Tapes of Tale Spin. It was awesome even thou it's like an alternative universe where Mowgli didn't appear and had exclusive characters.
This was surprisingly enjoyable. Thank you very much for bringing so many of these forgotten movies, plays, and tv series to my attention. I applaud you for all the hard work you put into researching for this. 🙏👏👏
I just remembered in TailSpin, there actually was a snake that resembled Kaa in one episode, albeit it was only on screen in a few seconds. Baloo and Rebecca briefly get separated in a jungle after a zepplin they were traveling in crashes. The snake jumps Rebecca and tries to constrict her but Baloo quickly dispatches it.
I remember Jungle Cubs, really funny how the animals from the original Jungle Book film were all friends when they were younger.
Kaa not being able to hypnotize anyone as a young snake was funny, especially when everyone else pretended to be hypnotized when young Kaa started to experiment with his hypnotic spiral eyes.
Young Kaa: "Look into my eyes, you are all under my power."
Everyone: "Yes Kaa, we are under your power"
Young King Louie: "Especially Baloo."
Me too. I remember those days.
MAN I loved that show. I watched it before Jungle Book, then started crying when all the animals weren't friends anymore. Kaa was always my favorite
@@spiritofchaos58 You're a fan of Kaa too? Cool beans!
Finally you back great work man now I can't wait to see you talk Robin Hood Villains like Prince John and Sheriff of Nottingham and then Bronze/Dark Age Disney Movies and villains like Horned King(Black Cauldron), Medusa (Bernardo and Bianca) and Ratagan (Great Mouse Detective)
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OMG that's from the soviet cartoon! It's really well made by the way, I highly recommend!
"Another villain baloo had to regularly contend with was Col. Ivanod Spigot; perhaps you've heard of him"
😆
Nice reference.
Me: Hello Col. Nozzle.
You know, it was stated in the commentary that Bill Lee was Shere Kahn's singing voice, but most of us think that was a mistake and that it was actually Thurl Ravenscroft. Lee wasn't known for having that low a voice. Also, while that bit about Shere Kahn being more a jungle lord than a villain in the 1994 movie is mostly true, don't forget he did trespass on the man village and kill Mowgli's father. Just thought I'd point that out. Good call on the part about Bill Peet leaving the studios at this time. If you read his autobiography, he actually included specific dialogue that led up to it.
I LOVE Jungle Cubs. 😭
One of my friends, years ago, lied to me and said that there was a post-credits scene of The Jungle Book where Shere Khan jumped into a river to get rid of the fire attatched to his tail. Do you know how disappointed I was when I saw through the entire credits (as a young seven year old whose attention span was not that good) and the movie just...ended?
Jungle book is my all time favorite Disney film both the classic 1967 animated film and the 2016 CGI film and the Japanese anime series as well as the sequel and the jungle cub’s series. Kaa is my favorite villain with his hypnotic power’s and bewitching song Trust in Me, Shere Khan second who rules the jungle by striking fear and cunning over the animals and King Louie third with his desire for man’s red fire and his jazzy music song I Wannabe like you. Thanks for a very interesting insight into each character and keep up the good work 👍
Walkens rendition "Be like you", is one of the most haunting ciinematic moments of our time.
29:59 - OK Off Topic but 1994 Jason Scott Lee as Mowgli? Ugh Oh I can't even... *Chef's Kiss* -- SO fine. Prolly my first major crush as a kid. WAY too much *man* there guy had muscles in places I didn't even know had places. LOL rant over *swoon*
OK tell us how u really feel 😅😂😘🤔
I dunno. I don't like the idea of a non-Indian playing Mowgli in live-action.
@@vetarlittorf1807 That's a fair point. BUT I agree with the OP - he WAS a sight especially in the 90s. PRobably the only instance where it will ever be appropriate to say that because JSL was/is an adult in the movie and not a child. (he's not all that bad looking in the new Mulan either but nowhere near what he was at his peak)
@@ladylin1992 Especially that first scene that shows him transition to manhood and the camera pans up over his 8-pack torso? *omg* The first ten minutes of his screen time is like Mr. Fanservice moment after Mr. Fanservice moment 😍🤩
@@ladylin1992 I mean, Mowgli is meant to be very handsome as he grows older, to the point where an unnamed village girl is lovestruck seeing him. So I guess they got that part right...
As light hearted as “The Jungle Book” (a movie that premiered when my dad was only 4) was, Kaa and/or Shere Khan scared me so much as a kid that I was too terrified to watch it all the way through until I was close to 11. Considering I’ve seen arguably scarier scenes from “Snow White and the Seven Dwarves” and “Bambi” without issue, I still find it puzzling this movie scared me for as long as it did.
If it helps, I found Kaa terrifying as a kid as well. I always looked away at his creepy hypnosis scene. (The first one mainly). Not even The night on bald Mountain sequence from Fantasia scared me that much.
It does. 😊
I am very pleased to see USSR Jungle Book cartoon used in this video. It was one of my favourite animations as a kid, and I am happy to see it having some niche fame outside of Russia. It is a great cartoon
It is SO weird seeing Kahn walk upright and wear clothes.
This ended up in my recommended videos and was the first video of yours I'd seen as far as I know- time to go back and watch the rest of this series before the heffalumps and woozles episode comes out!
I mostly had this playing as background noise while I sew, but there were parts where I turned my attention back to the screen for storyboards, concept art, and video clips I'd never seen or heard of before
Keep up the good work! 👍
Bagara: why are you so mean? We used to be friends.
Sher Khan: I remembered things differently. For one thing, we wore clothes, stood on two legs and Baloo drove an airplane. I also was a corrupt businessman.
Baloo: What?
Baloo: "What's an airplane?"
Monkey See, Monkey Do from the Plane Crazy stage show at Disneyland is an absolute banger.
@51:55- OMG I remember seeing this show when my family went to Disney Land in 1991! My jaw dropped seeing chars from cartoons I did watch in the late 80s/early 90s! We did have a VHS recording of that trip, which does include most of that show.
Disney’s Jungle book sure has plenty of light comedic moments but I do feel it does have lots of serious somber ones as well. So I understand the change. But the original sounds interesting as well.
Thank you for mention the stage musical.
As a fan of Kaa, I knew that he isn't a villain. Only mistaken for one
For those of you wondering where you can find the stage musical adaptation of “The Jungle Book”, as far as I can recall, he got the clips from a video that showed the musical in its entirety from someone who managed to record it. Unfortunately, given TH-cam’s frivolous copyright nonsense, they took the video down, essentially unfairly depriving any viewers that were unable to see the show in its entirety just because they weren’t in a city where the show happened to be playing.
HOPEFULLY, someday it’ll pop up again, because having seen it in its entirety a few months back before it got taken down, I can genuinely say it was an AMAZINGLY well done stage musical that should’ve gone to Broadway.
From the costumes, to the puppetry (seriously LOVE the puppet they used for Kaa in the first scene, they nailed the actual movements of a real snake, even down to having the underside of Kaa’s head nearly touch the ground while he’s moving), to the set design, the score (which manages combine Indian music with jazz phenomenally well, including for “I Wanna Be Like You) and even the actors they to got to portray the characters from the movie this was by and far one of the best stage musical adaptations of a Disney film I’d seen in a long time.
What especially worked is that it not only struck a better balance of being faithful to the spirit of the movie while still expanding on it by incorporating aspects from the book (when compared to the 2016 live action remake), but it was shockingly much more willing to be dark like the book was.
For example, the fact that Shere Khan actually succeeded at killing the deer he originally stalked from the movie was already surprising enough, since the movie would never’ve allowed that…
But that scene went the extra mile in two ways:
1.) Shere Khan did this while singing his own villain song, which happened to be about the inevitability of death. And it wasn’t even something big and bombastic since it was honestly more subdued, almost like a waltz really. And yet, even if you didn’t know what the “unexpected friend” Shere Khan was referring to, you couldn’t quite help but be on edge because of how uneasy it made you feel. As a result, it genuinely felt like a song that would’ve fit him PERFECTLY in the original movie, given how elegant and dignified yet ominous it was in parts of the song.
2.) Again, the show having Shere Khan succeed in killing the deer was already surprising enough, but what made it far more shocking and ballsy is that rather having it be implied offstage or even hidden behind a set piece? By the end of the song, with no obstruction to speak of, after courteously allowing the doe to drink from the pond?
Shere Khan ended his prey’s life with a single, yet elegant swipe of the paw that BROKE HER NECK, showcasing just how POWERFUL a tiger can truly be, with the red lighting after the killing blow adding a striking effect and cements an image of the King of Tigers standing over the body of the prey whose blood he spilt with ease. And it to top it all off? As befitting the title of the song, it was impeccably UNEXPECTED since, well, you don’t even see it COMING since a scene like that would NEVER have been green-lit for the movie.
Stuff like that, in my opinion, are why I think it’s a damn shame it never made it to Broadway, because if this and other Disney stage musicals on Broadway are of any indication, they’re a HELL lot better than these live action movie remakes in the past few years (granted I do still the 2016 Jungle Book remake but as I mentioned, there was a better balance between the elements of the original movie and the elements from the original book). What I think puts the stage musicals ABOVE the live action remakes is that not only is there much more artistic flexibility, but there’s a lot more creativity and PASSION put into them while still respecting the spirit of the movies, even being a bit more willing to be much darker in some aspects.
It’s why the Broadway musical version of “The Lion King” is still beloved to this day, while the live action remake is basically a shot for shot remade dumpster fire filled with souless, expressionless cgi mannequins.
Overall, the stage musical adaptation of “The Jungle Book” by the Goodman Theater is proof of how much of a waste of time, money and energy the live action remakes were when we already had damn good remakes in the form of Disney’s stage musical adaptations.
It's interesting about the perception of Kaa and Louie now that you mentioned them. With Kaa, people hold him as one of the examples of someone getting a villainous upgrade due to his status as a snake. However, I do think the first movie shows us again and again even though he's more comedic than his book counterpart he is not harmless which the second movie sadly did. And I can say your analysis of him shows that if Kaa got character rerailment he would get back his villain cred as a dangerous threat because again this guy could have not only eaten Mowlgi but also Baheera since he was pissed off. Also as said the original film really makes you forget that technically Louie is a villain but it's because he's so affable you forget that he's willing to kidnap and misuse a dangerous element for his own use. Louie in my opinion is more likely to make a Heel Face Turn out of them all but he just has to learn a good lesson about not being irresponsible and selfish.
Also nice dig at Edgar because ha ha he is one of the lamer villains.
If Edgar is Lame what about Bowler Hat Guy as before he met Doris he just threw TP at Lewies company
At least someone finally agrees with me that Kaa isn't really a baddie.
You used to work at the parks. That's awesome. Also after seeing these media I guess I would have clarify Louie and not truly evil, but rather someone who doesn't know what he's doing at points, but also an anti hero with other appearances, fitting for the Banderlog ans how they don't get it. That would be interesting to explore.
Kaa's not evil either, just hungry and misunderstood.
Funny how Disney was against a snake as a heroic character when in more shows and movies there's a good snake, Lola Boa From Brandy and Mr Whiskers, Larry from The Wild, Snake and Mouse from Fish Hooks , Slips from Gym Partner, Craig from Sanjay and Craig , Garden snake from Little Bear , and Slimey from the Simpsons.
Fun fact. As backup plans just in case a Season 4 happened the original Don Karange's fate was going to be revaled. Meaning that Jim Cummings would've probably reprised the role.
Interesting
But no Negaduck?
@@jaggerguth4391 actually he was part of it.
Loved the video, I didn’t know the story about King Louie and his voice before. Very interesting
Thanks for covering my favorite movie of all time
I've been waiting for this entry for a long time. You've done it again!
Also, the Talespin version of Shere Khan has to be my favorite corporate villain in any media that I've seen. He's antagonistic, intimidating, clearly not afraid to slide the law, but he still has a strong sense of personal morality. There are lines he won't cross, but they are lines HE draws, not anyone else.
My favorite quote from the series is this, "My dear, I desire only two things: money and power. Unpresentable employees provide me with neither." This is said in response to him finding out that two of his managers were abusing employees in a mine he owned and explaining why he sided with the miners instead of the managers.
I remember Jungle Cubs was on Disney's One Saturday Morning on ABC.
90's kid here as I remembered it from my childhood memories.
THANK YOU for the correct pronunciation. It drives me crazy when people don't know. I mean, I get it and I don't blame them. Disney rules most people's childhoods.
In the Chuck Jones Jungle Book, Roddy McDowall pronounces it "mow (like cow)-glee)."
On the subject of games, Jungle Book was intended to make an appearance in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, but got cut. The world is still in the game's data but it's empty. Judging by the fact you have 3 playable characters and they all encountered different characters from the Disney Worlds, there's a good chance all the villains would have appeared in one form or another.
I think Boldeo should have been in Jungle Book 2. The cheapquel age really was lazy about premises. Seriously, who wouldn't want Mowlgi go up against the embodiment of why he doesn't want to be human. And he could have faced off against Shere Khan again with Boldeo also at his heeled. Shanti and Mowlgi's adoptive brother could still be there but the big aim is now Boldeo could be using Shere Khan as an excuse to go on a big hunting spree.
They could also have Shanti be Buldeo's daughter, making her torn between her loyalty to him and her love for Mowgli.
@@vetarlittorf1807 That would have worked so well that Buldeo as well could be shown to be a cruddy father.
what's interesting is that Jungle Book 2 is one of the few cases where they actually have great animation
The question is whether to kill him off or not
I love how they referenced Warner Brothers’ own dastardly dog Muttley with one of Don Karnage’s design.
It should be noted that George Sanders also originated the role of "Batman" villain Mr. Freeze, and that by portraying him with a German accent (Sanders actually being Russian by birth and not English, by the way) he set the pattern for the eventual "Victor Fries" character brought to the big screen by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Unfortunately, it seems to be the TV performance of Otto Preminger (who, like Schwarzenegger, was Austrian) that is remembered most by Mr. Freeze fans nowadays.
Man, that original Jungle Book movie would have been legit cool.
13:29-13:40. ☮️ Yup. Spiraling eyes as a 60s trait. Takes me back to the setting of The Minions Movie when the minions hypnotized the Buckingham guards (minus the well-trained elderly guard of the crown).
So glad you’re still doing these, and so in depth!
A new vid today? Awesome!
As a kid, I could have sworn that Kaa was a part of the Talespin cast, but maybe I remembered it wrong, and I confused him with Thaddeus E. Klang
I discovered this series of videos three days ago and have since binged every part. These are absolutely phenomenal, well crafted essays that have been nothing but a delight to watch! I considered myself a diehard fan and still have learned a lot through these :) I can’t wait for the next installments! Keep up the fantastic work!
I'd use my comment here to say that Jungle Book is one of my favorites, the BEST of the new remakes, and how Talespin is even better, BUT I'd be remiss in mentioning the most obscure piece of Jungle Book media, the "Say no to Strangers" classroom video. Not nearly as remembered or as well documented as the House at Pooh Corner one, this video basically said the same things, but utilizing clips of the movie narrated by Baloo. Otherwise unremarkable, there is one line that always stuck with me. They used the Louie scene for the obvious "don't get lead in by strangers or accept anything from them," message, but what was really interesting is Baloo made it a point to mention that him and Louie became great friends later (kinda muddies the don't trust strangers bit). Now this was probably around the time Talespin was in production when this was made, but it seems they were destined to make Baloo and Louie buddies and re-contextualize Louie entirely to just be a fun-loving goofball, not a true villain.
Same here since my childhood days, along with the Second Jungle Book Mowgli and Baloo, Mowgli's Story, and the 1994 version.
Can I have a link?
Depending on how long this retrospective series runs for, and if you’ll even remember this comment, for next year’s April Fools it’d be hilarious if you did an entry for Quest For Camelot.