Sales vs Marketing! Who Wins?! Whiteboard Wednesday #2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- #JordanBelfort #WolfOfWallStreet #Sales #Marketing #GrantCardone
In this installment of the iconic, Whiteboard Wednesday series, Jordan breaks down the difference between sales and marketing and how each works, both separately, and together.
He goes on to explain that marketing is the process that brings people into your sales funnel, and sales is the process of turning leads and prospects into clients and customers for life. All the great ones have strong marketing but also back it up with great sales experience and a strategy that works!
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This is the third time he digging on Grant Cardone.🤣 I am glad he is fully committed to blasting him.
Grant Cardone has been blasting him for years before Jordan ever even said his name. I think its great how Jordan got him on his podcast and schooled him, and is now schooling him again.
Bryan Reese he exposed him perfectly as a fake it was so awesome 👏
@@BryanReese585 did he really school him tho ?
hahahaha so gold. But it would show a bigger character if he would just ignore him from now on.
I'm so glad he keeps ripping cardone. Cardone got rich by conning his way into it
I canceled my Cardone University membership after watching the Grant Cardone interview. Very pleased with JB's approach.
DragoonXV smart.
Where do you work at ?
Just out of curiosity did you learn anything from him? Was anything useful?
hamlet gomes not useful is a level of usefulness
big boi 😂😂😂😂
Jordan: 1+1=2
Grant: I disagree
Jordan: why?
Grant: well first off, the Greeks invented math.
Jordan: and??
Grant: I got fish
I'm done here! 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
LOL
Hahaha I'm so dead
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
After watching Grant Cardone my wife came home and says-'honey you have been doing nothing all day". I say "Nothing is a level of something honey". Hope Cardone has Divorce advice or NOT!
I wouldn't even take divorce advice from cardone lol id still go to belfort
Hahaha
No advice is a level of advice
Notice how even though Jordan is taking digs at Grant, he does it by pointing out the flaws in Grant's logic/methodology and correcting them, NOT by personally attacking & insulting Grant as an individual.
Meanwhile Grant: "He's a broke rat, in your world everyone does drugs, etc."
Apply this to women and save years of your life.
FACTS!!!
Literally
"buyers in heat" LOL 6:56
@@pIayingwithmahwii also buyers in power 😆
@@pIayingwithmahwii bro its 90% of women
Grant Cardone probably watching this video punching the air right now in anger lol. You are a legend JB for calling him out on his BS!
Lol... he want that cage match for real
Jordan Belfort 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Grant Car-done is doing what that dude did in the movie boys in the hood lol
I think Jordan is jealous he isn't in grants league.. Grant has plenty of sales trainings and just because he didn't go into full training on his fucking podcast is ridiculous to blast him. Grant is in the hundreds of millions .Jordan is baby money
@@ajwysopal Word you can tell Grant Cardone has I'm all worked up 🤣
Cliffs:
Marketing is about filling your sales funnel,
Sales is about closing the deal.
facts
Who else agrees that this info from the Wolf was needed?
100%
Yes definitely
Absolutely...especially for Grant Cardone...
@Al Bundy Grant Cardone Hates Realism Because It Doesn't Let him be the Missionary & Preach The Religion of hard-work. Either he lives in a delusional world or wants his employees and customers to live in one so that he could benefit out of them. His narrative is motivational but delusional at the same time. Wolf brings a lot of sense which Grant Hates. Grant is a motivational speaker, but doesn't appreciate brains which others have got too. He tries to sound intellectual but can't pull itoff well. So hates others who can do that better than him IMHO. But 10x is good stuff to teach others to get things done from them. Use 10x stuff to motivate others and Wolf stuff to motivate your self. They both address a different target audience.
if i had known this when i started selling mortgages i would have saved myself a lot of time.
Wolf is coming to hunt the TH-cam influencers of sales!!!!
Really? He going to scam them too?
Lol! Jordan is the best!
Hope he goes after all of the fake ones
@Randal Southall you sound like a tool. Either ad something worth while or shut it
But the wolf also feels like a scammer. I am willing to bet he will not click with the millenials.
the wolf is back!
Bryan Casella Bryan.... your the man my dude, you’ll be like Jordan Belford one day bro
Yes sir!
Bryan Casella yea I listen to Bryan more than my own dad!
15 years of door to door sales and training and i still watch yoir dvd series...straight line persuasion once a month.
You must be sharp as a tack then
Smooth salesman
Sharp as a tack!
How is troll life ?
What you sell?
God damn these shots are amazing LMAO
Radies Rajakulam - Investing & Real Estate 😂😂😂😂😂
Lmfao 💀
Radies Rajakulam - Investing & Real Estate fuck yes, they are! They’re GLORIOUS!
Grant Cardone is just a hype man and marketer. That interview he did is the most exposing one I have seen about that GC of a dude.
Hmm seriously I just unsubscribed from GC to get on team Wolf. Thank you JB for this revealing interview 🤜🤛
Your success compared to his :/ ... Okay then lol.
@@stevegoodwin7100 I don't understand what you meant but I believe it's positive😊. When you look at GC, he's good at marketing to fill the pipeline but coming to the sales depth and mastery, hats off to the wolf.
Agreed
You wasted time with that guy he’s a scam artist
@@dmvbawse4265 all salesmen are scammers to some degree.
I spent over $1,400 on Grant Cardone’s products and that was a big mistake. Got into a sales job & had no idea what I was doing. Listening to this gave me more information than the $1,000 I spent studying Cardone University. & Cardone University expired after 1 year. I wish I could get that $1,000 back but didn’t call Cardone’s office because I thought they would just make fun of me. Cardone doesn’t treat customers very nice (just look at some of his videos on how he treats customers). Going to be listening to Mr. Belfort more often now.
Grant came into that interview with a closed mind and he clearly wasn't prepared. I believe Grant is an exceptional negotiator, but when he came into Jordan's environment, he shut down. I think we need a Part 2!! Great content Jordan.
Yeah...that's it ...Grant shut down. He has sales skills. Can't run an operation he runs without selling.
“You don’t know 10x CONference !” Lmao
Jordan your a beast. You handled him well.
@@ajcassataofficial Get a life
@@hamletgomes6818 seriously that was his time to expose 10x to a new audience
Love it. Jordan is the real deal. He knows what he is talking about.
Jordan: Would you agree that we need water to live?
Grant: I disagree, you don't actually need water to survive
Jordan: well wouldn't we all die from thirst?
Grant: That's the trick!
Jordan: .......
That's stupid. Grant isn't into the stupid b.s. tactics he is straight up. And that's why he produces big numbers compared to Jordan.
@@ajwysopal lmao you are delusional
eXpas04 haha yes,,
😁
Sounds similar to something I said regarding selling a pen and fish. 😬 😂
I buy and sell cars as a hobby, it took me ages to sell a car and I didn't know what I was doing wrong.... came across JB and read his Book and implemented the straight line system and bang I ended up selling cars like crazy its simple and effective thanx JB
The wolf is on fire.
This man has such enthusiasm and he so smart, it’s good to listen to him
Why can't I like this video more than once..
JB IS the go to guy to learn about sales, and I say this as someone who has books from both JB and GC.
Thank you for all the great content that I personally use as a salesperson.
Oh my god Jordan, I never realized what was going on in my business as a Real Estate Agent until I watched this and you brought up looky-loos. I’ve been in the game for 4 months and I had someone claim to be a Multi-Millionaire wanting to see gorgeous mansions here in Saint Louis, Missouri but when I would always ask for a pre-approval letter or financial questions they did what you said, they were super exaggerated and made me feel bad because they’d say things like “I’ve sold 9 houses before and I’ve never had an agent ask me for documentation this early in the process” I now realize this was an act. Thanks I was slowly getting discouraged from Real Estate but know I know it’s just a crazy waste of time client!
Jordan Belfort and Joey Diaz on selling.
Oh yeah, PLEASE.
They did it already check out joey diaz channel
@@lmak2122 Damn thanks man!
The wolf is a phenomenal teacher. This lesson alone makes me want to try sales again
Dude I was wondering when u were going to break radio silence on. I was a semi fan of Grant but I saw that interview with u two and i was cringing. It was rough i didn't finish cuz it was just awkward. Loved the one with Alex Maher though! Keep it up Wolfie
Mr. FatBodyInRecovery I really enjoyed the Alex M too. 🥳
Because grant heard Jordan was talking shit before the interview...so it put grant in a bad mood...grant is in the big leagues... Jordan is jealous
@@EntrepreneurAMG yeah I could have listened to those two talking all day. It was much better than the Grant podcast. It's interesting due Tai and Alex. Great stuff
Yea exactly... I only ever watched him on real estate and saw couple sales but Jordan made him look horrible total meltdown.... And got some of grant fans hollering at the moon now. .... I was blind now i can see........ Wolf man numero UNO..... Anyone hasnt seen the podcast on logan Pauls channel watch thar shit boy..... Fkn hilarios love thar instant classic.... Wolf man lights that podcast up
@@ajwysopal actually grant was the one talking shit first to Jordan now he got his ass handed over
Jordan, you're truly the king of sales.
Please interview Dan Lok, that would be AMAZING
Dude they don't like each other either. Good one.
@@HCBCHEMISTRY oh shit
Yes! I’m a douchebag and I would love this!
Dan lok another fake one.
@@victorelnecave5157 Dan and that dude Kevin David disappeared lol
This guy even has incredible on camera performance skills, very entertaining to watch!
I love how youtube is now getting true professionals, great value
Yes! The cream rises to the top! The fake and phoney sit by the wayside
I always used to be confused about marketing and sales. I got clarity on this distinction in 2020.
Sadly I see so many businesses (offline and online) in Nigeria making the mistake of mixing the two up
Hey Jordan. You should interview Dan Pena. I
Yes PLEASE INTERVIEW DAN PENA
PLEASE!
Juan Garcia yea that would be cool.
The fraud? Why?
@ vegeta If Dan Pena is a fraud as you say, JB will smoke him out. Plus it will be great content
The thing I love about Jordan Belfort's Straight Line System (and really him as a person) is the simplicity he uses.
He and the system are not packed with theatrical bull manure (oddly enough, it is a great movie) .. but instead he uses actionable advice, easy concepts and clear communication to explain to everyone (beginner and expert) the style of his service.
Watched the dethroning of Grant the one thing that caught me is how he stated he would call workers stupid....from the movie of yours I noticed you were always willing to help your workers and friends level up. Good to see you making a comeback.
JB is in a different class when it come to persuasion. Simply the Best!
"No interest" means no interest!!! LOL. That was the single most revealing part of the interview. You cannot sell someone who has no interest, I don't care who you are.
Hold my Beer 🍺
I think gc meant no interest still means u got data out of the prospect...data is gold...he dint take JB seriously I think. I dont buy he is that stupid as you all people make out him to be. He dint give 2 hoots about JB and his podcast.
@@w.k8624 Grant did not say data was received... is "interest" whatever that even means. Data is not a sale. He said that is the beginning of someone being interested. Nice job trying to make Grant sound reasonable though!
That part was great that's probably the biggest thing that turns me off to Grant. He has no problem trying to shame somebody into buying. He actually had the stonesto record a sales call where he said to somebody that they weren't say no to him they were saying no to their family and to their kids. That's wrong on so many levels
@@younginsane90 I'll hold your beer only if you buy it from me first.
Jordan ive been selling and training door to door sales 15 years. You are 100% correct.
Jordan explains this fundamental concept and more in his book. I highly recommend the read!
I am an online marker with 12+ years into the field. I must admit that I'm following both guys. At this point I have to give total credit to Jordan. He is totally right in regards to marketing and sales as different channels. In many aspects Grant is amateurish in regards to his "strategy" even for sales or marketing. On the other hand Jordan is structured, precise and he clearly knows his job at a very high level.
Amazing explanation!
Marketing is being easier with all this good content!
This guy is crazy his motivating skills and teaching skills are crazyyyy.
Do not be fooled by charlatans like Dan Lok or Tai Lopez or someother con artist.
Jordan is the real boss. I really respect you.Keep up the whiteboard wendsdey work man.We love you
Thanks for going over this. I've been learning more about marketing over the last few weeks. This is right on time.
Btw, it sounds like The Wolf wants ALL THE SMOKE!! JB is on point with this one, as usual.
*Hands down, Jordan is the best in sales.*
Great video, Jordan, Interview Ryan Serhant, the ultimate sales machine, best real state agent in the world.
Up
Oh my gosh, thank you Jordan, I'm in the auto sales training industry and I cannot agree with you more. There are so many following that 'other-guy' and don't realize there is no substance just hot-air. Your theory, delivery, system and psychology on selling is AMAZING!
I'm so happy this guy is back in the game!
This all works in reverse as well. In 40 years of selling (and sales training), my sales made a huge gain after I studied marketing in addition to selling. Sales and marketing support each other. And Belfort's explanation is spot on. By the way, it's funny that Belfort and Cardone both are taking this personally.
Belfort asked GC all the questions he always uses to sell with and GC knew basically nothing it seemed except pressure sell. I think the issue is that in many, many cases GC is a BUYER of real estate, not necessarily the seller, so its a total different animal of selling.
@@ShawNshawN Wasn't Cardone a sales trainer for car dealers? I have read a few of his books, and they are excellent. But nothing on selling.
Real estate has massive demand. It's like selling a glass of water to a dehydration victim
Get Grant Cardone on your podcast again for a Part 2 !
Jordan Belfort 😱😂 he will never agree to come back but it would be entertaining
He got embarrassed so bad he wanted to fight Jordan in a cage lol he ain’t coming back
@@aprlv6732 Now that would show the true character of GC.
No way, JB was like mike Tyson knocking out his opponent in the first round & the the fool (gc) asking for it again 😂 he don’t want it lol Lok is full of shit too, He doesn’t want to catch a fade with the wolf 🐺 lol
Jordan would be destroyed in a physical fight with Grant, but mentally it's a different battle with strategy and tactics.
This feud is great entertainment. You gotta go on Grant's show or invite him back for a debate.
Correct
I love that , build interest= build awareness
Dude honestly jordan you saved my life. From living out of my car to becoming top 10 my first year by studying your tonality and straight line system. Litterally made me 80k my first year. And you landed me a deal to be in a new book with les brown. Also on the font cover with him as well so thank you. Would love to one day be on your pod cast.
YOU ARE A TRUE NEW YORKER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 no subliminales straight at the target 🎯
Your interview of Mr. Cardon is a Master Class on how sales managers/executives can expose self-proclaimed experts from true sales professionals.
This is such a precise explanation! No bull and to the point. Thank you for the content!
The Wolf of Wall Street is the real Wolf!
He knows very well what he've demonstrated here about marketing and sales strategies.
Great mastery, thank you JB
GC was holding out on you in that interview. Her understands sales WAY better than you'd like admit.
Agreeded
JBs charisma and persona is unmatched lol master salesman
I will be buying your book Jordan. I do have the 10x book, haven't read it yet but I will rely on your book. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Damn, I’m a young Salesman and by watching this video it really did show me that I’m not doing anything wrong it’s just that sometimes there’s people that literally like wasting time. Which puts me in doubt and makes me question my career as a salesman. Thank you
You need to learn to better qualify and filter your prospects. Great sales reps know to disqualify non buyers as quickly as possible and maximize their time with buyers.
Sorry, but Grant is a great salesman. He didn’t want to talk about sales because there was friction between them and he felt the bad energy from JB that was just trying to make him look bad. That’s why he didn’t open up at all, although it would have been a great interview. I do admit that he is a better marketer and more passionate about real estate, but he is also a great salesman.
Dude, GC had no response to basic sales qualifying questions. Any sales guy knows this is part of the equation of closing, but GC was clueless. No Interest is interest?? LOL
In a long and profitable career in selling, my single greatest jump in income came when I studied direct marketing and direst advertising. Understanding marketing gave me highly qualified sources of prospects that were easier to sell, and gave more referrals.
I learn a lot about sales an colse from you and dan lok .thank you. JB
The wolf is a bad ass. I've lernt in 20 minutes more than in 20 years about marketing and sales.
Epic rap battle of history, Jordan belfort vs grant cardon.
Not really... ones a legit con man who went to prison for his one and only successful company. Grant is 60 years old with no criminal record of scamming people. Owner of 13 companies with hundreds of millions in revenue ... sounds like Jordan B is still good at twisting reality to me if you think they're even in the same league.
Aj Anonymous did you even watch the interview? Bc Grant looked like a idiot.
I think grant cardone wins
Ha
If only they were still around
I have no sales experience, not usually interested in the subject or these types of people, but this guy had me utterly enthralled and has sold me the subject of selling!!
Shots fired!!!! Bottomline, GC good marketer and businessman. JB is a great salesperson. If not because of his federal cases then he is probably a 7 billionaire now.
If not for being a criminal
@@nigivlog3775 you don't believe in redemption?
JBs energy is SERIOUSLY CONTAGIOUS, in a positive +++ way. 1000 thumbs up
15:17 the best Sales info you'll ever see on 1 whiteboard HANDS DOWN!
Grant was one of the top sellers in the car industry in the US for years. He has books and products on sales strategies. He's rich as hell and his companies make millions and millions in sales every year so everyone talking trash clearly doesn't know
Just because you're rich doing one thing doesn't mean you can pull out tall claims from your ass. The man said "no interest is interest"... "All buyers are buyers"... You can't take him seriously when he opens his mouth about sales. He got served what was long over due.
Jordan. I read all ur books and a lot of hours of ur videos.
But i have a little problem... im spanish and im learning english... I want great subtitles (YT s bad) to comprend u better :)
Thank u!
Víctor Hernández Martínez do not let a language block you from learning. I’m african & english is not my first language nor my second language. But I force myself to learn english, watch movies in English, speak english. I’m looking forward to learn spanish too. Hablo poquito espagnõl ;)
@@tradechaserz6534 Very good my friend.
Yeah, i want to have a better english. I only want subtitles in english haha.
Buenos días amigo :)
Me too bro 🙂
Jordan, Dan Lok & Grant Cardone should all have a one day sell-a-thon to see who closes the most business by the end of the day.
I never thoiught I would write this, but
I never cliked on a video that fast.
Thanks Jordan.
I did watch your interview with Grant, and you had very good questions that he dodged. you were still very respectful to him, even though he was very arrogant and condescending to you. I do respect you after seeing that interaction with him. Keep it up
Killer insight Jordan!
Jordan Belfort has a very high communication skills, he knows how to ask the correct questions in the exact right time to qualify the lead and deliver the right information about a product and close the sell in a very easy form of fashion, his straight line course is one of the top selling methods, I will invest my money with him he is the 👑 when it comes to training how to sell, and believe me if you invest in his content the only regret you will have is that you didn't invest earlier!
i respect you so much sir, Shots Firedd!!! HAHAHA
Jordan you are the man the real deal fair play for not playing the games and calling people out we need more honesty now then ever in this scam greedy industry called sales and marketing.
man i love to see the Jordan beat down on Grant. You can tell he was holding back in the podcast.
I finished marketing management course and he is right. This is why I dig some knowledge even sales and other branch in business area. We should have an open forum of ideas instead downing other differences.
White board Wednesday!!!
I fuckss with this !
JB, has definitely turned a corner. After reading his 3 books, I can only say listening to him know it shows how honest he has become and how truthful he is.
The Wolf had to take old Uncle G to SCHOOL!!!
Too bad grant out produces the "wolf" sounds like somebody is jealous
GC makes his money marketing his weak sales program to noobs like you. But when GC came up against a true sales titan like The Wolf, he had to make a straight line home with his tail between his legs.
@@TheMicahwitz what the fuck are you talking about? Lol you are insane and I can't even debate you if you really think that...jordan b only had one successful company...and did that by scamming people and it lead him to prison. Grant has taught and is still teaching thousands of car salesman and others how to sell. His companies (yes real companies that sell stuff.. 13 of them) all individually per year do more than Jordan does in 10 years. Grants got a clean criminal record at 60 years old.. 1.2 bil in multi family real estate ... a 50mil jet... so tell me how if grant got all that from selling stuff he isn't the better salesman? Oh wait now your only excuse is "noobs buy his stuff"....who gives a fuck...if I'm selling things I don't care if a homeless man is buying it...you are in business to make money and sell... and by the numbers grant is winning.
Hilarious how "grown men" call another man and con artist "the wolf"
So why couldn’t old uncle G explain any of that in the interview??? Hahahaha He can’t answer basic questions about the sales process??? Okay....😆😆😆😆
This man know what he is talking about. I have learned more in this video than my entire entrepreneur journey. 😊😊
I don't think Jordan or Grant will be sending each other Christmas cards this year .....
I stopped the video to say that you are a true sales genius I am buying your book for sure
"Hey guys I got fish!"
That’s what some guy said she said
That was unbelievable 😳
We need more White board Wednesday’s!!!!!
Aka Belfort vs. Cardone LOL
I agree with you 85 percent Jordan. I'm a Black man, and, I believe with People you know. They Shit Test you! They see how Much You Know then they make some excuse even if They Got The Money. They will Put you off. And later buy from someone else. And, Tell You that they bought your Product or Service from someone else. I believe They want to get a Reaction from me. I Never let them see Me Sweat. Thanks for the Great Video. Keep Up The Great Work.
The classic wolf 💥💥💥🐺🔥🔥🔥
Wow you literally did a video saying exactly what I was saying about you and him. You are the KING of sales btw!
The Wolf schooled Uncle G 💯👍
This is amazing what you on this channel!
Just want to take a moment to appreciate you and your team for honest no BS content.
It looked very uncomfortable to interview GC but damn that was fire!
TH-cam become my classroom and I must admit Mr. Jordan your classes are filtered to the pure gold.
Your outstanding attitude deserves applause.
Thank you for what you do.
Shots FIRED on Grant Cardone
Ooooof.
Marketing is the process of getting leads ,and Sales is the process of identifying quality leads and making them buy your product/ service. Thx, Wolf!
Can't wait for JB's interview of the FBI agent! Also, Cardone who?
the way of the wolf is one of the best books about sales ever written
Grant is mad they didn't make a movie about him lol. It was hard to watch once grant wanted to get in a fight with Jordan b.
HCBCHEMISTRYoCOM yeah, it went ultra ridiculous 🤔🥴
It was painful a lot earlier than that lol. It was hard to watch about halfway through.
Lol for real his ego is so far up there he’s probably hoping that someone will 😂
Made simple -
Marketing: is the ability to generate leads and have them enter the funnel.
Sales: as soon as the lead enters the funnel. The selling actually begins. Usually, you would want to provide some information in return for trust. If you can build trust and increase certainty. The lead is more likely to convert on the back end.
This is very simple. By building a sales funnel you will also separate yourself and be seen as a gem in the midst of a clouded world.