Slay the Spire - Northernlion Plays - Episode 399 [Please]
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Run 1: "People tell me I undervalue Metalicize so I will take it"
Run 2: "Half price Metalicize in the shop when I am building a defend deck? No thank you!"
MladenNS95 metalisise juggernaut as well though
'Corruption Barricade, It works.'
*narrator voice* It does not.
Dear god though he had a stone calendar barricade tankfest possible and he blew it :
Narrator Voice : "But little did he know... It doesnt."
44 minutes awe this is double loss length then
You know Egg is about to be hard boiled if the title is “please”
NL that first run could have been great if you had a cleave or whirlwind. Whirlwind with 4 energy bodies the birds an keeps gremlin leader summoning instead of attacking. You have started planning for bosses but you also need to plan for second floor enemies and elites. Having one or two more cards is necessary to kill those minions
Barricade Corruption DOES NOT WORK. You need so much other stuff to make it work, it's not a two card instant win!! Ugh that first run was pretty fine until he took corruption, barricade wasn't even a good pick though
I scrolled down during the first run, and I'm not surprised there's more than one. It's following a pattern
I does work but only with broken branch and exhumes
@@PagemanX noodles said it needs other stuff, so yea
you can make this deck work but you have to take a lot more block skills, feel no pain, metallicize, impervious, and some high damage cost cards you can cycle through every turn once you exhaust all your skills, something like carnage or bludgeon. It's a lot harder but its possible
dan would never make that mistake
Thank you Spoon
You need to thank spoon every run
TL;DR: Run Strength 7/10, 9.5/10, Strategy 4/10, Tactics 3/10. A very odd episode from a tactical standpoint, I feel. NL still underrates Vulnerability, or more he underrates Bash which was his only source.
> NL can't just build on his deck's strengths, he needs to counteract the enemy's strengths as well. His second deck was good in a fishbowl scenario but would have folded horribly to any heavy permanent status enemy or the Transient.
> Avoiding so many elites is a really bad sign, especially in act 1. He's going to need the extra leverage in Ascensions 19 and 20, should he make it that far.
> I think Ryab just needs to completely throw out all his previous card evaluations. There's very very few cards that are actually unpickable, and it's unnecessarily hurting him early to be passing up on so many of the Ironclad's damage cards.
> Vulnerability is good enough that it makes playing Bash worth it. Please stop underestimating the card.
> I think it's perfectly fine to take cards that don't do anything with your deck currently - Dark Embrace and Feel No Pain hard counter the Chosen, for instance, even if you don't exhaust. Same with Evolve - utility cards have their place.
Act 1:
- None of the other choices were worth too much.
- Shovel isn't good until NL learns how to snowball properly, I think. The standard Ironclad suite has so much vulnerability that Trip isn't that good, but it is free? I would have taken Combust; 5 AoE damage for 1 energy is hideously efficient. Uppercut is a really good pick.
- I'm never that mad about Tiny Chest, but Hemo + Spot might have been a better call. Hemokinesis does just absurd amounts of damage for 1 energy. Spot isn't that fast, but you don't really need it to be fast.
- There's an argument for Whirlwind here. Trip+ isn't a be-all endall solution to AoE fights; you still need an attack. Still, though, Shrugs are always good to have.
- Hey, it's Metallicize! Thanks random chat members. Mitigating chip damage is still important even if you can't block fully.
- Really wish NL would fight at least one Elite - Ironclad is extremely good at fighting them, after all.
- Again, Combust is spicy.
- Thankfully, with so much HP he actually takes the goop gold.
- This is a very bad Barricade pick. NL just doesn't create that much block, and can't really afford to play the Barricade either. Bludgeon would have been a lot better. Sozu was the right call there.
Act 2:
- I'd honestly add a Feel No Pain to a deck with zero exhausting in it. Not as instantly as I would have pre-nerf, but there's enough Dazes thrown around (and Corruption, Shockwave, Disarm, True Grit, Impervious...) that I think it's worthwhile.
- Corruption instantly shows up. Well, NL's still stuck in Corruption + Barricade = win when it's so much more complex than that, but at least that call about the Feel No Pain was probably right. All those other buys were horrible in the light of the second shop - could have gotten a Sling, or a Feel no Pain and an Oddly Smooth Stone, or any number of things that are much better than the friggin Spoon which turns off Exhaust synergies half the time.
- I don't know why NL wants to play Barricade so much - he can't do anything with the stored block anyways other than just sit on it, he doesn't generate serious burst block, and with the Corruption active he can't win longer fights anyways.
- NL, why did you all in the Gremlin Leader from 80 HP with a Fat Gremlin alive? That's never gonna end well.
Act 1, part 2:
- I forgave you last time because you had Trip+ and Uppercut+, but upgrade Bash, you friggin Egg. This guy thinks Iron Wave+ is better than Bash+...
- Holy shit, Defend+ over Bash. Please kill me.
- Vajra is pretty huge on Ironclad to make Limit Break guaranteed to work. Whirlwind too helps against the Slime Boss, since it's compact card-wise for the Slimed turns and highly AoE. Disarm and a removal are good, but makes the Slime Boss unnecessarily touchy I think, whereas the other two directly help him. It's only 3 Slimed rather than 5 and he does have 40 damage in potions, but the rest of his deck is very Body Slam reliant for damage.
- I'd honestly take Dark Embrace and fish for a Corruption Dark Embrace Body Slam combo deck. Granted, I'd have taken the Feel No Pain too, which would have made it better. Headbutt is way worse than Carnage, too.
- Juggernaut or Impervious would be my choice, leaning towards the Impervious without the Dark Embrace to fuel a Feel No Pain chain. Snecko Eye is too absurd on Ironclad not to take, honestly; every single Snecko Eye run I've done on Asc 20 as the Ironchad has made it to the Heart.
Act 2, part 2:
- NL's deck is horrifically weak to statuses. Hopefully he picks up an Evolve or a True Grit or something.
- Egg takes 2 chip damage for basically no reason whatsoever.
- True Grit is extremely necessary because any Burns or Wounds will actually do horrible things to NL.
- NL misses a Headbutt, fetch the Bodyslam, draw the Body Slam with Shrug kill.
- Note that all those powers NL asked for? He was literally offered them on the first floor.
- There's the Corruption that would have tied the Exhaust deck together. I'd have bought it even without all those powers, but it wouldn't do enough in the Champ fight for me to be excited.
- Him playing Flame Barrier over Bash in that buffing turn nearly gave me a heart attack. Still, though, he spotted the Armaments lethal to save the fight. I expect Asc 19 to wall him fairly hard because NL doesn't seem to be playing around boss mechanics that well.
- Runic Pyramid is one of the strongest relics in the game as of now and really should be taken. NL's deck can abuse it extremely well too by holding block cards and Body Slams, as long as he can get some exhaust.
Act 3:
- True Grit is a very strong pick to get rid of Statuses, which are even more important to get rid of now thanks to Runic.
- By ignoring Bash, NL throws away all chances of living through the Transient. He needed the vulnerability to persist through the later turns to survive.
Just wanted to say I enjoy your recaps!
I think NL has been improving over the last few videos, but he still has a lot of blind spots when it comes to Ironclad, particularly exhaust synergies. He almost never takes Feel No Pain which can be extremely strong. He also really overvalues armaments I think- it's not a bad card but certainly not a snap pick.
Public Access I really love these analyses comments you do, please keep up! They help me become better at the game as well!
Vulnerability is very good but I have to say that bash is horrible. Normally if I have anything that inflicts vulnerability like uppercut I just straight up remove bash ahead of a strike or defend. Token cards that deal vulnerability are top tier like trip.
Fabio Silva I feel like if you’re in a position to remove Bash, you’ve either taken Pandora’s Box and gotten a ton of Uppercuts Shockwaves etc or you’re in a position where you’re so hilariously far ahead that you’ll likely win anyways. Or a Perfected Strike deck, although even then I feel like the Vulnerability enables the burst so well that I’d consider removing a Strike or saving the gold instead. Basically, my thinking is that you want to upgrade Bash most of the time, and then it’s clearly better than a Strike, so there’s no point in ditching it.
Selomepe I’m nowhere near qualified to talk about XCOM, unfortunately.
Reaper is straight up TRASH TIER without strength gain! When will he finally get it through his Egg Shell?
He did have magic flower tho which makes it not trash without strength gain
@@ultraviolet7434 it adds 2hp base. Trash.
@@jimmyrustle5678 basically the same value of burning blood, and with runic pyramid he can hold it till the enemies don't attack. It's not bad when you already have a highly defensive deck and runic pyramid
i would imagine never.
i mean, he still hates Metallicize, which, if it read, "Give yourself 3 Plated Armor", he'd think it's the best card ever. he hates Dash and Steamline too, despite Streamline carrying him through the last Defect run he did... and he won't upgrade Bash or Neutralize for the life of him.
i mean, 18:00, he upgrades a friggin basic Defend over Bash... annnd then immediately skips a half-price Metallicize in a defense-focused deck 30 seconds later.
It’s not trash. But it’s bad , really bad , just like corruption or barricade. They’re not run agnostic. You need to already have something going for it.
I would have gone for bludgeon instead of barricade, you already had a high damage deck because of all the vulnerable and the only block you took that floor was shrug it off and metalicize
He doesn't like Metallicize, which gives you 3 or 4 block per turn, but thought it was really useful to take Feel No Pain, which does 3 or 4 block when exhausting, in a deck without consistent exhaust.
Impervious, body slam. Everyone knows it, everyone loves it.
I think you often make the same choices. You fear the multi mob encounters because you are always refuse to take AOE Cards like cleave or whirlwind.
Dude...we don’t mention cleave here. Do you not know?
Did this egg upgrade a defend over a bash? What the hell was THAT?
Honestly that first run was pretty sweet. Even though it resulted in a loss, using the spoon to avoid the downside of corruption was a pretty smart idea. I think, given more card draw, this kind of run could potentially work
Small tip I figured out the other day, multiple metallisice with juggernaught is great free damage per turn. Great play though.
I thoroughly enjoy your Slay the Spire videos. Win, lose, or utterly fail, you recognize your short comings and improve constantly and you always provide some entertainment along the way. Don't ever change, Ryan; you know that your audience loves you just the way you are.
Has the Egg talked about the synergy between Juggernaut and Ironwave? You deal damage twice and put up some block. It’s perfect for all situations. In my opinion anyways.
40:50 "Headbutt my Body Slam" - good line for a rap song.
"I want some kind of crowd control" *skips fire breathing*
When you see Corruption look at your relics, is there a dead branch? Yes? Insta win. No? Ok do you have “feel no pain” or a 20+ deck with good drawing relic/cards? If yes it’s not insta win but good. If no then it’s trash do not pick it. No it doesn’t combo with Barricade. You’re spending 6 mana to purify your defends
I think he severely underrates Evolve. Given the statuses that come on the later floors I think it'd be worth at least a consideration, and on this run it would have made taking Mark of Pain free over Sozu. Granted hindsight is 20/20 but still, Evolve isn't as bad as he seems to think it is
That The Champ fight ending was quite hilarious watching and hearing the math happen.
Can’t wait until NL finally fights some elites
A successful body slam deck usually has 2 upgraded body slams, barracade, entrench, upgraded defensive cards and metallicize. adding other offensive cards usually just ruins your draws. removing all strikes help as well.
17:59 did you just upgrade a defend over a bash
PLEASE! Somebody tell this EGG that corruption and barricade doesn't really work unless you stack your deck full of blocks! 😠😠
When you keep vulnerable for that long bludgeon is a must have, that's close to 50-60 damage for 3 energy
34:10 almost gave me a heart attack, i thought he was gonna miss the Armaments+ upgrading his unupgraded Strike and allowing him to lethal the boss.
17:55 Upgrading a defend instead of bash? How scrambled is this egg?
Very
He actually hates bash. Thinks it's trash tier and never plays it even when there's no better option.
First run was an easy win if he picked up a true grit and feel no pain
If the backlog is too large then please egg dad two episodes a day
I have to admit watching NL panic but finally work out the math on the last turn of the champ fight was beautiful
That transient throw was Tom Brady levels
26:53
Basically just barricade for real body slams and perma armor
So sad barricade didn't show up, the deck looked cool
Why pass on shovel when you barely need to rest as the ironclad?
Edit: Also stop skipping Evolve and cards like Heel Hook.
100% the first correct buy there was shovel.
@@michaeladams2074 I disagree, upgrading strong cards is almost always the best option at campfire
@@Zozakaoo7 2 vulnerable to all enemies when you already have uppercut or a relic? I think all the question marks egg goes to warrants not upgrading cards, because a lot of events upgrade cards.
@@michaeladams2074 Still wouldn't make shovel a 100% correct buy in my opinion, you can't always guarantee getting upgrades from question mark rooms so that's why I wouldn't buy that relic and would instead buy cards to upgrade
@@Zozakaoo7 you're right. Nothing is 100% when egg is playing
He would've died on the first floor boss without that four block a turn. Meta needs more props. Might've done pretty well if there wasn't this strange illusion that barricade and corruption are anything but extreme anti-synergy.
You need to learn how to play around runic pyramid better. In that last fight you threw away body slam on the wrong turn then never saw it again beciase you had a full hand.
Why not take meat on the bone? It would be potentially 24 hp heal each fight.
Thank you spoon
Edit: rip spoon
The spoon giveth but upon not paying homage it shall taketh away. \o/
At this point I think his mental attitude is the worst towards the ironclad, if anyone was asking
You really should have bought preserved insect it one of the best relics in the game hands down
Thank you spoon
Thank you spoon
No thank you spoon
Thank you 🥄
Thank you 🥄
No thank you spoon
gonna be starting the new year on 400, congrats
NL I love that sometimes you say things in yiddish but you gotta stress the words more. Chutzpah Is not hut-spa it's CCHHUUutz-pah
When will egg learn of the metalicize value. Especially when building a defensive deck, IT'S A MUST PICK. The first one isn't that strong by itself (it's still better than a single defend), but once you get a second and third one it can carry a run. Having 3 upgraded metalicize's is disgusting, especially with Juggernaut/barricade
I'm at 18 with all 3 characters, the egg has surpassed me with the defect
Happy new year! My 1st video watched in 2019!
He actually became Hitler on that Champ fight let's gooo
You deserve the like just for the Champion kill; that was good.
And don’t beat yourself up, that was actually the worst possible draw you got at the end. Three body slams and they’re all at the bottom of the deck?
nine-seven-seven... nine-six-six... nine..-nine-nine? wait seven-NINE-NINE!
so he obviously reads the comments but still thinks corruption barricade works???
Tun winning length bois
Edit* i said this before i saw that he was playing the ironclad, triple lose length bois
Thank you, Spoom
northernlion keeps taking cards that don't actually compliment his build. that's why he dies the first time
Thank you Spoon
I think corruption is better when u have dat branch thingy
Thank you spoon
*Please* I need to win
Edit: Aasaaaand I was right
Thank you spoon.
Good play against the champ. I mean, WTF. That's not what I'm here for.
unfortunate that all three body slams were in your last five cards in the draw pile at the end
Did he just upgrade a fucking defend over a bash
I'm done for today
Stay strong Egg Man. (Kisses the top of your beautiful, bald head.)
21:18 When are you going to learn that juggernaut is trash tho?
Eh, thas' just my opinion... I see why it can be fun but, aahhh. Seems like small potatoes to me.
34:02 Lets actually go?
🥄𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷𝓴 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓼𝓹𝓸𝓸𝓷🥄
Shovel floor 2... Doesn't even mention it
so question, is shovel bad, i always take it, i am a relic horder
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU NOT TAKE SHOVEL!?
One day he'll take evolve and see how useful it can be or take it and never use
BUT CAN U DO THIS?
Take a shot for every episode NL doesn't take metamorphosis
Can you show us your seed so we can show you how much better we can do the same run as you
Cmon ya cant tease than man when you cant find the seed staring back at you from the start to end of each run. You're almost as blind as egg boi
Michael Calizo 👏👏👏👏👏
@@michaelcalizo1183 mercy I'm as stupid as a rotten yolk
Continually gets screwed by tunic pyramid continues to take it
Thank you Egg.
The Ironclad straight up seems like trash tier.
No, egglord is just trash tier at playing him.
Ironclad is plenty strong. NL needs to start taking snecko eye when it is offered though, it is a top tier relic with Ironclad.
The ironclad is probably the best character. He has a multitude of different viable builds that require very little set up for it to work. It has access to immolate which. Basically guarantees access to the 3rd lvl and counters 4 elites. The issue is NL undervalues most good cards or chooses to go thin without any need. The only card that is broken is echo form which basically almost guarantees a free won but aside from that no class is better than the other
Defect is so far ahead of the other two classes in high Ascension tho.
You need to slow down your play man. You’re losing hp because you rush kills, you lose points because you’re not planning out your turns fully before you act, you take fights/rewards that are risky and avoid risks you can afford to take in that precise moment. You’re also picking “good cards” that unbalance your deck and bloat your cycles. I think your play is overall on the right track but you’re losing a lot of your runs in the margins.
dude you have to go perfected strike with the Iron Clad. It's the only viable deck in my opinion and even then you will have a hard time
WTF
misplays, you should not have lost to that enemy.
10:35 he makes me so mad
Thank you spoon