Lots of people are bad mouthing the Paccar engine. There is nothing wrong with it , if you are doing the proper maintenance. Drove it for 4 year 520000 mile. , Never break down or have to be towed. Got average 7.4 mile/gal running beverage and paper rolls. Rule#1. Never wash any engine when is hot. Lots of guys have a bad habit running the road and pull in the truck wash ,wash the engine and the truck. Paccar is a good engine.
Yep, it's a good engine. This is the 4th year on the engine in my truck and the only thing that been done to it was that the crankcase ventilation module and a few software updates. Other that that it hasn't been to the dealer for anything. No emissions issues as well. Plus I don't let my truck sit and idle. I have a lot of coworkers who with sit and let the trucks idle for hours. I've always heard that it's not good for the trucks to idle for extended periods of time.
I think people are forgetting that it's a 13 liter engine and it's not going to be like the 15 liter engines cause of its displacement. It does a good job for what it is. Put the Paccar MX up against other 13 liter engines and let's see how it does. My old 07 T800 with the C-15 didn't like it when pulling a hill and the rpms got below 1200 where the Paccar at that rpm is still pulling and you can run it down to 1000 rpms. I think the 455 hp one can go 900 rpms and still be at peak torque. Then again the T800 had a C-15 w/ 8 spd and my T880 has a Paccar 500 hp w/ 18 spd. Engine technology has changed quite a bit since 2006.
@@KenworthofRichfield Exactly, Paccar includes a DVD in with the owners manuals of all their new trucks w/ the Paccar MX and it tells you how to run them and all. I've watched it quite a few times. I know my coworkers haven't.
MX engine's is from Daf Netherlands . we had them around 2004 /5 . 410 Hp and up, and yes they were and still are super strong in low RPM /high tork . loved them and still love em, i even prefer this engine above the Volvo's or Scania's. regards from the Netherlands..nice to see that Daf joining Paccar is working out for both very well.
Good job describing difference between automated manual and the new style transmissions. Truck needs a sun visor over the windshield, makes them more eye appealing to me.
Beautiful truck, great transmission, low ratio drives, frugal Paccar motor, the seem to have thought of everything, also a great promotional video, I was just glad when the background music ceased.
We have this engine in the D A F XF over here in the UK and Europe. It does well here on the whole, even been to the D A F museum last year in Holland and learned some more about the way they make them. I loved this engine for the brief period of time that I drove that big D A F, great bottom end power and excellent fuel economy. Not quite as efficient as a Scania 6 cylinder, but not far off. Liked the review on this very interesting truck.
Thanks Gareth!!!!! That would be an awesome thing to see them built over there. There's a factory here also that's building the 12.9L engine and I need to get to :D
Thanks!!! I really enjoy doing these. I'm about to change my audio setup (not sure if it'll arrive for the next video or not)...and hopefully that will help.
They look far more comfortable. I am in a 2006. So far to date love the pre emission motor and the manual. But this full Paccar set up has me interested.
That truck is very similar to the 2 that we have, one's the same color and the other is a like Skittle Green color. We all have a Blue mid roof that should be here in a few weeks. Ours are spec'd very similar with a few things different. Kenworth did a good thing when they designed this truck. The two guys who drive them really like them and that Paccar transmission. Now if they could only come out with a version for the vocational trucks. You're right about the MX 13 it's designed to run at a current rpm and it's a great engine for what it is. Great video and a great truck that goes along with it and I'll be looking forward to the next one.
Ill see if I can work on keeping that in check more. I'm about to change my audio setup (not sure if it'll arrive for the next video or not)...and hopefully that will help.
Also, I see that Paccar and Eaton had a collaboration for this transmission seeing as how this same model is branded as the Endurant for Cummins. I had the Endurant and it was the BOMB. I'll never own an automated manual over this.
The Endurant is just next level, but it is still considered an "automated" transmission. In the ultrashift, you have to adapt to it where it seems like the Endurant is almost predictive. It really is an amazing piece of engineering. Glad you like it!!!!
I see that Kenworth released last month if I'm not mistaken that in 2020 that the Paccar 12spd is gonna be available for some Vocational use such as dump trucks. Of course after get my new W990 they decided to release that. Go figure! The boss told me that I could take one of the T680's out and see how I'd like the the Paccar 12spd. Even though it's after the fact, but I'll still take a truck out just to see what it's like. I'll have to keep you posted on that.
I was surprised to see the Paccar 12spd in that BMC truck back in March at the Work Truck Show. I guess they thought it would be alright for that application. The Vocational market is booming and that transmission would give Alison a run for its money.
@@KenworthofRichfield Some of my coworkers have Allison's in their trucks and they like that their trucks automatics, there's certain things they don't like about them. I drove one for half a day and I feel like it needs at least 2 more gears. Haven't heard the OTR guys complain about the Paccar.
Hey Josh great video i like the way you present the trucks theres not many videos like this on the internet so great job on that! Now coming from europe where automated transmissions are used for a long time, i know very well how good they are or they can be. I believe the American truck drivers are not introduced and educated enough on this transmissions, i believe once they know more about them they will like them more. I love that you pointed to it but i would love a video focused more on the transmission, it will help people understand that this is not the old ultrashift that was ment to be manual or allison automatic, but this is a smart geared automated transmission that was designed to perform very efficiently.
This video is laid out really well honestly except the interior section where the music is drowning you out. You should have it fade out before you comment about details. You also need a tad bit more of a cinematic feel though, it's close but just slightly off. Maybe the quality needs to be increased to 60 frames per second?
Thank you! Actually, I shoot most of it and produce all of it in 24 fps which is what most things are shot in. I think part of it is that so much of it is shot with a tripod where the camera is stationary. If I could shoot with a shoulder mount or handheld, it would probably help a ton. But it's hard to hold the camera and be in front of the camera at the same time. :D Also, check out some of my latest videos as I think I got a bit better with the color and that. Let me know!!!!!
Looking forward to the 2020 T680 my company is getting for me. They have bought a number of T680’s over the past couple years and I’ve heard great things about them. I’ve always been more of a Peterbilt man, but I love the looks of the KW’s.
I replaced the servo and bled it by pumping the rod. My pedal is now stiff like the brake pedal. Same issue it had when servo was replaced. You said yours pushed hard then was amazing. What did you do to get yours from hard to normal just by lees it? I would think mine is bled. Maybe my clutch is bad
Nice truck, this engine trans combination quite common here in NZ, a lot of the new DAF trucks use it, good power and torque, transmission a lot better than other AMT type systems, DAF is another Paccar product. yeah mate music killed the video.
Any news on the weak wire harnesses being upgraded. Not everyone can throw 20 grand at an after treatment system like I had to this past spring..... 2017 T680
I agree with other comments made when you are talking you don't need music. A little music when you first do your intro into the video and then loose the music after that.
I climb alot of hills and mountains here in PA. Those lower gear ratios are bad in my case. 3.55 is the minimum I would be able to do. Is that possible with that trans? Also I've never driven an automatic. I'm an owner operator.
You could do a 3.55, but you'd lose a ton of mileage and speed. I'd rather let the trans shift going up a hill and get the mileage on the flats. the 2.79 or 2.88 is definitely the way to go in this truck. Especially the case with the low end torque that it has.
Most European engines for trucks are designed for 900 rpm - 1300 rpm and has 12 speed. This engine is what you get in the DAF trucks in Europe. They have a 530 hp version too now. Not sure if its available in the US. Music needs work... :P When you sit inside the truck the music was way louder than your voice. ^^
I have a new 20/20 t680 with a Packard motor 12-speed automatic the transmission has been nothing but problems the truck rides very nice but I wish the seat would go back further for me I am very tall and it hits the cabinet. Has left me on the side of the road five times maybe it was built on a Monday instead of the middle of the week just a guess.
With those tall (low numerical ratio) geared rear ends, how about the starting ability with a full 40 ton load up a grade with that 12 speed? Is the first gear (highest numerical ratio) high enough to not slip the clutch too much to get the load going? The truck seems to run great 'bobtail'. But what about load performance?
Does this new transmission make it easier for green horns (like me) to drive a truck? I've been turn down by numerous trucking schools claiming someone like me will never be able to handle a vehicle of this size. That is the ONLY reason why I am not drive a semi. I've been driving pickups since I had license and I have towed long & heavy trailers with those trucks. I LOVE trucks of all sizes. Yes, I know pickups are nothing remotely close to a big semi with 18 (or more) wheels and towing thousands of pounds of cargo.
Can you get extra storage vs a second bunk? I like that cabinet package in the video of the W990 interior from the comparison video. As for that 2.79 ratio, wouldn't a 3.36 or 3.25 be better? Drove a 2016 Pete 579 w/ paccar 500 1850tq 13spd 3.36 rears, she pulled great...gotta be honest tho,I'd prefer that truck w/a chrome bumper, but that's me...lol. Nice truck.
We can do a chrome bumper!!!! When you see how this truck goes down the road and how it pulls, the 2.79 works really, really well. Especially in combination wit the transmission.
Also....on the shelf, with the high roof, we cannot get the upper shelf and I'm not sure why. My folks just turn the upper bunk into a shelf if they aren't running team.
So where do you go to find out how much these trucks are? I'd like to know the price without having to come in first, at least a base price. Hard to hear about the apu over the music.
I'm a a bit confused, Josh, about the transmission. At 4:30 into the vid yo say it has a clutch. Is' that for starting & stopping only? At 9:42 you say it has 2 pedals to mess with. Sounds like no clutch. Also that math lesson would be helpful. At 1100 rpm and a 2.79 rear gear, what speed would you be running? I really enjoy the explanations, the education. You are the first to mention (that I've ever heard) about the KIM system, though I think it's been around a while, right? Thanks again for you vids, Josh. We need the education! :~)
Thanks Frank! This truck has a clutch. In fact, it's the same clutch as the manual transmission version. It only has 2 pedals as the computer controls the clutch. There's an electric/air actuator that controls the clutch on automated transmissions like this one. As far as the KIMS system, I plan on going farther in depth in that system with the next truck that we get in that has one in it. I forget exactly what RPM we are at when running 1100RPM.
Compared with last model, this one lost one shelf for storage. Headlights are not so bright compared with competition. I do not know why kenworth makes drivers area narrower than competition. Dirt get to side of windows and body, and you have to clean all the time. You have to see fender mirrors alot because convex mirrror visions are smaller than the last model. I have noticed airbags are fragile, and oil gets into coolant reservoir, and exhoust leaks out of engine blocks, transmission can go wrong if airbags are not working properly. Be aware of those known problems.
@@brandonpryormusic There's still some things very different about them. I drove a T800 for 9 years before getting my first T880 and there about the same from the frame down. I think the T880 has a lil better turning radius cause I noticed how tightly it turned compared to the T800. Definitely different on the top side of the frame rails. That would be a good comparison as well, T800 vs T880.
HI,wish you would tell a ball park figure of cost?? we live close to chillocothe,ohio my friend ordered a new 680 via a lousiana sales man,when its done in sept ,he cannot pick it up locally but in lousiana,thats crap,more red tape and his cost to fly down and pick it up,,great show and details,,b safe,,CRIP in zanesville
Steve, this one is fresh enough that I don't even have the rate sheet for it as of yet. LOL Shoot me an email at jtroche@hissongkw.com and I'll see if I can get the boss to run the numbers. If you're in Zanesville, heck, I could deliver this one through our TRP facility there. :D Mail me and I'll get #'s and that for you on it.
Thanks!!!!! It's kinda my thing and I love to have fun with these. :D This one below is my favorite edit so far. :D th-cam.com/video/QBxUWHuiGQ8/w-d-xo.html
Outside of some minor cosmetics' on the front fender and grill the 680 and 880 look to be the same truck. Why make both? I understand the 2.1 cab axed the 660 so we have the 680. This reminds me of the GMC Chevrolet pickups. GM makes both and other than some minor cosmetics it is the same truck. The 660 was a really nice rig. I hate that it is no longer made today.
I think it's just like how Kenworth has done with the T600, T800 and W900 line. Their carrying it over and continuing it with the T680, T880 and W990 with each one having it's purpose. The T680 is their on highway model, T880 is vocational and the new W990 is that long hood model that people seem to love. Plus a lil bit of a variety is good as well. Not to mention that all three can be available as day cabs and mid roofs.
@@waynenorbreyjr9371 I understand where you are coming from, but there was an obvious difference in the t600, t800 and w900. The 660 fit really well into this lineup after the end of the t600, but if everything is going to the 2.1 cab then all they need is the 880 and the 990. There are not any differences in the 680 and 880 and most of the OTR trucks I am seeing are the 880's and just a few 680's. I literally have to walk up and look at the door to see if they are 880 or 680. No sense in having both and I see KW getting rid of one or making some changes to make the two different.
@@spliceoncharlie T Yeah, the T680 and T880 have there slight differences. The grille, bumper, headlights and fenders are a lil bit different on the T880. It was sad to see the T660 go, the comforts and the space of the T680 is what Kenworth needed and that was the go to truck. Other manufacturers were already offering the wider cabs and I was always wondering when Paccar was gonna follow suit. They tried, but I thought that the T2000 and 387 might have been too wide, my opinion of course. The T680 is a good balance between the T2000 and the T660.
It's great.....but it's the same as the 2016. From what we've found, if a T680 isn't turning sharp, you need to have the steering stops checked out. In some cases, they come a bit tight from the factory. Get them adjusted properly and you should be good to go and happier with your 2016 still.
No studio sleeper for the T680 and they stopped producing the T660 in 2017 if I'm not mistaken. The T680 had become the truck of choice. Would have been nice to see the T660 hang in there, but I guess it wasn't meant to be.
120 and a 110 tanks.... why not BOTH at 120?? I was just at the KW up here.... all they had was WHITE! ugh but still these beauties are incredible eye candy when seen in person ;)
@@KenworthofRichfield (slap on the forehead) that's right! I knew I was forgetting something lol the missing link to make it cost effective while looking I really do appreciate you being pro-active in the chats, most just post and move on, another positive image for KW ;)
Nice truck. I have a 2015 T680. I kind of been thinking about volvo. I have only owned kenworth. Cut my teeth on a 1971 narrow nose peterbuilt. Cummins and 6×4 transmission. I need to look at a new T680. I would rather get another W900l. But i need to make money. And fuel millage is not that good.
Overall, they're about the same in terms of reliability. There is the occasional hiccup with an air system or solenoid, but there's also the earlier wear with the manual, so it's very much a trade off.
Kenworth of Richfield I seems that manual are harder to drive why would someone want to drive them instead of automatic if they are the same in reliability,power and almost everything?
I've thought about comparing....but it's a tough position to do that from as it would probably just end up looking like I would be ripping on the Pete. I try to do my best in highlighting what makes the Kenworth "The Worlds Best" and let you make the comparisons from there.
pull out drawer fridge are the worst a waste of space for getting as much food in there as possible, nice idea but not efficient where an inch by inch living space is absolutely critical
These trucks are probably great until you have to rebuild the motor or transmission. 2500 of these used online for sale. Nobody holding them for rebuild, guess everything is disposable now even KW's. Thinking about buying one of these used for 30k, gut it, then throw in a cat with a 13 speed. Then you have a nice reliable truck you can work on.
On the Paccar engine, it's got a B10 lifespan meaning that 90% of them will make it to 1,000,000 miles without a major overhaul. So yeah.....that's why they aren't getting rebuilt as much. :D
@@rontn64 Something else to consider..... The T680 came out in 2013. So it's just now 6 years old. So for some of them to have 1,000,000 on them makes for 166,666 mi/year average. Give them some time.
Good review, but that annoying background music needs to go. I don't understand why people think they have to have music playing while they are trying to give a review. It makes the person harder to hear.
@@KenworthofRichfield do you work directly with the Kenworth Manufacturing? I have some ideas that I want to give to Kenworth that would improve the inside of the Cab
I love my t680 really do and glad it dont have the paccar in it. Have never been a fan of then nor have they proved themselves to me. Only thing t680s meed in my opinion is better Jake, freightliner puts yiu guys to shame in that category and I thing the only reason they remain in compitition.
You say it wont break the bank but dont say the price .i wish you would meantion the price on the trucks the way th3re set up whhen you do your videos osl get rid the music
I would never run a truck with a Paccar motor...company I drove for in 2017 had a T800 tractor with a Paccar in it and it was constantly having engine issues
@@KenworthofRichfield yep, we had 5 other Kenworths, three T800s, two were Cat powered and the last one was a Cummins. We also had two T300s that had small Cat motors. We had a mixed construction fleet, Kenworth, International Paystars, a couple of Petes, a Mack tractor and a lone Sterling.
@@aaronsanborn4291 I guess what I'm getting at is don't let the experience with one bad engine sully your idea of the whole group. UPS, FedEx, and a ton of other fleets have swapped over to the Paccar....and they don't move like that unless it makes $$$ sense. :D
@@KenworthofRichfield that's not the only one I know of that's had issues that's just the one I know of first hand because I saw all the problems. We had all Cummins and Cat motors otherwise and we ran em hard running mixers and dump trucks only motor we had a problem with was the Paccar. Fedex and UPS run what we refer to here as flat land trucks...
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Lots of people are bad mouthing the Paccar engine. There is nothing wrong with it , if you are doing the proper maintenance. Drove it for 4 year 520000 mile. , Never break down or have to be towed. Got average 7.4 mile/gal running beverage and paper rolls. Rule#1. Never wash any engine when is hot. Lots of guys have a bad habit running the road and pull in the truck wash ,wash the engine and the truck. Paccar is a good engine.
Yep, it's a good engine. This is the 4th year on the engine in my truck and the only thing that been done to it was that the crankcase ventilation module and a few software updates. Other that that it hasn't been to the dealer for anything. No emissions issues as well. Plus I don't let my truck sit and idle. I have a lot of coworkers who with sit and let the trucks idle for hours. I've always heard that it's not good for the trucks to idle for extended periods of time.
I think people are forgetting that it's a 13 liter engine and it's not going to be like the 15 liter engines cause of its displacement. It does a good job for what it is. Put the Paccar MX up against other 13 liter engines and let's see how it does. My old 07 T800 with the C-15 didn't like it when pulling a hill and the rpms got below 1200 where the Paccar at that rpm is still pulling and you can run it down to 1000 rpms. I think the 455 hp one can go 900 rpms and still be at peak torque. Then again the T800 had a C-15 w/ 8 spd and my T880 has a Paccar 500 hp w/ 18 spd. Engine technology has changed quite a bit since 2006.
Idling any emissions engine is terrible for the whole system. People just don't understand that.
It really is a great engine!
@@KenworthofRichfield
Exactly, Paccar includes a DVD in with the owners manuals of all their new trucks w/ the Paccar MX and it tells you how to run them and all. I've watched it quite a few times. I know my coworkers haven't.
MX engine's is from Daf Netherlands .
we had them around 2004 /5 .
410 Hp and up, and yes they were and still are super strong in low RPM /high tork .
loved them and still love em,
i even prefer this engine above the Volvo's or Scania's.
regards from the Netherlands..nice to see that Daf joining Paccar is working out for both very well.
Good job describing difference between automated manual and the new style transmissions.
Truck needs a sun visor over the windshield, makes them more eye appealing to me.
Agreed Matt. But, the tradeoff is fuel efficiency, of course. Would be nice to know how much the mpg cost difference would be.
Beautiful truck, great transmission, low ratio drives, frugal Paccar motor, the seem to have thought of everything, also a great promotional video, I was just glad when the background music ceased.
I'll have to keep that in mind for the next one.
I just got a 2019 12speed and I love it. Very smooth ride and shifts much better then the 10 speed auto.
Definitely a whole different animal!!!
My coworkers said the same thing about their 2019 T680's.
Do you still have your truck? How the maintenance and is it difficult getting service anywhere being its a Paccar? I'm looking to get one.
how did it treat you? how long dod it last? looking at the same truck but 10spd auto (i dont like how it shifts) but seems like a decent truck.
We have this engine in the D A F XF over here in the UK and Europe. It does well here on the whole, even been to the D A F museum last year in Holland and learned some more about the way they make them.
I loved this engine for the brief period of time that I drove that big D A F, great bottom end power and excellent fuel economy. Not quite as efficient as a Scania 6 cylinder, but not far off.
Liked the review on this very interesting truck.
Thanks Gareth!!!!! That would be an awesome thing to see them built over there. There's a factory here also that's building the 12.9L engine and I need to get to :D
@@KenworthofRichfield Thanks for the kind reply.
Music is a little too much. Thanks for the tour of the truck though
Thanks!!! I really enjoy doing these. I'm about to change my audio setup (not sure if it'll arrive for the next video or not)...and hopefully that will help.
I like the music.
No matter what you do these days someone complains.wow. Great job.👍
@@milt2234 Thanks Milt!!!!
The music keeps a nice presence to the video but too often here it got too loud.
There is plenty of power to do exactly what you need ! That’s exactly what is T680 paccar ❤
These T680's are really growing on me. I want to run one instead of my Freightliner Columbia.
And there's plenty of reasons as to why you'd want one. We have a few here. :D
They look far more comfortable. I am in a 2006. So far to date love the pre emission motor and the manual. But this full Paccar set up has me interested.
@@BrandonWagner93 Come drive one. I think you'd love it.
That truck is very similar to the 2 that we have, one's the same color and the other is a like Skittle Green color. We all have a Blue mid roof that should be here in a few weeks. Ours are spec'd very similar with a few things different. Kenworth did a good thing when they designed this truck. The two guys who drive them really like them and that Paccar transmission. Now if they could only come out with a version for the vocational trucks. You're right about the MX 13 it's designed to run at a current rpm and it's a great engine for what it is. Great video and a great truck that goes along with it and I'll be looking forward to the next one.
Thanks Wayne!!!! It's just designed to roll along at 1100 RPM all day. LOL :D
loud music takes away from the vid
Ill see if I can work on keeping that in check more. I'm about to change my audio setup (not sure if it'll arrive for the next video or not)...and hopefully that will help.
Sounded like your microphone on your body wasn't turned on to me.
Not the music, that pos engine!!!
Amen to that trying to listen to what he is saying over music, takes away from the whole video. I just finally gave up watching it.
I like the music
Also, I see that Paccar and Eaton had a collaboration for this transmission seeing as how this same model is branded as the Endurant for Cummins. I had the Endurant and it was the BOMB. I'll never own an automated manual over this.
The Endurant is just next level, but it is still considered an "automated" transmission. In the ultrashift, you have to adapt to it where it seems like the Endurant is almost predictive. It really is an amazing piece of engineering. Glad you like it!!!!
Kenworth make excellent trucks. Especially with the VIT package.
We agree!
I see that Kenworth released last month if I'm not mistaken that in 2020 that the Paccar 12spd is gonna be available for some Vocational use such as dump trucks. Of course after get my new W990 they decided to release that. Go figure! The boss told me that I could take one of the T680's out and see how I'd like the the Paccar 12spd. Even though it's after the fact, but I'll still take a truck out just to see what it's like. I'll have to keep you posted on that.
Please do! I think it'll be a great transmission for those applications!
I was surprised to see the Paccar 12spd in that BMC truck back in March at the Work Truck Show. I guess they thought it would be alright for that application. The Vocational market is booming and that transmission would give Alison a run for its money.
It really is a transmission that's in a whole different ballpark.
@@KenworthofRichfield
Some of my coworkers have Allison's in their trucks and they like that their trucks automatics, there's certain things they don't like about them. I drove one for half a day and I feel like it needs at least 2 more gears. Haven't heard the OTR guys complain about the Paccar.
Me gusta este modelo 680 , tiene una forma excelente y aerodinámica como pocos camiones en su tipo . Saludos desde Ensenada Baja California, México .
¡A nosotros también nos gusta! ¡Definitivamente es un gran camión! Gracias por ver.
Hey Josh great video i like the way you present the trucks theres not many videos like this on the internet so great job on that! Now coming from europe where automated transmissions are used for a long time, i know very well how good they are or they can be. I believe the American truck drivers are not introduced and educated enough on this transmissions, i believe once they know more about them they will like them more. I love that you pointed to it but i would love a video focused more on the transmission, it will help people understand that this is not the old ultrashift that was ment to be manual or allison automatic, but this is a smart geared automated transmission that was designed to perform very efficiently.
Thank you and you've got a great point. I'm coming up with a list of videos that I should be doing and that will definitely be one of them!
Great looking Rigg!!
Soon to be back behind the wheel.
Can't wait.
Thank you!!!!!!
This video is laid out really well honestly except the interior section where the music is drowning you out. You should have it fade out before you comment about details. You also need a tad bit more of a cinematic feel though, it's close but just slightly off. Maybe the quality needs to be increased to 60 frames per second?
Thank you! Actually, I shoot most of it and produce all of it in 24 fps which is what most things are shot in. I think part of it is that so much of it is shot with a tripod where the camera is stationary. If I could shoot with a shoulder mount or handheld, it would probably help a ton. But it's hard to hold the camera and be in front of the camera at the same time. :D Also, check out some of my latest videos as I think I got a bit better with the color and that. Let me know!!!!!
@@KenworthofRichfield Will do! Keep up the good work on the reviews buddy. These in depth videos are sorely lacking in the industry.
Ok brother I am slowly coming around to a KW. I am looking at a pair of W990's. Hoping to get them in the darker metallic grey.
We've got a sparkle gray W990 on the lot.
Nice truck did kenworth fix the wiring harness problem with the 2020 .
Recently found your channel, love the tours and knowledge!
Thanks Eric! We'll keep after it! :D
Wish you would do videos again.
Looking forward to the 2020 T680 my company is getting for me. They have bought a number of T680’s over the past couple years and I’ve heard great things about them. I’ve always been more of a Peterbilt man, but I love the looks of the KW’s.
I replaced the servo and bled it by pumping the rod. My pedal is now stiff like the brake pedal. Same issue it had when servo was replaced. You said yours pushed hard then was amazing. What did you do to get yours from hard to normal just by lees it? I would think mine is bled. Maybe my clutch is bad
Nice truck, this engine trans combination quite common here in NZ, a lot of the new DAF trucks use it, good power and torque, transmission a lot better than other AMT type systems, DAF is another Paccar product. yeah mate music killed the video.
Thank you!!!!!!
The DAF trucks come with the ZF Traxon gearbox though, not some Paccar product.
Of course the DAF trucks do have this engine, cause it's a DAF engine which is called PACCAR.
This is what a t2000 should've been, sharp truck
Agreed :D
Any news on the weak wire harnesses being upgraded. Not everyone can throw 20 grand at an after treatment system like I had to this past spring..... 2017 T680
I know that there have been some changes in those. What happened to your harness?
I agree with other comments made when you are talking you don't need music. A little music when you first do your intro into the video and then loose the music after that.
I'll keep that in mind. I'm about to change my audio setup (not sure if it'll arrive for the next video or not)...and hopefully that will help.
@@KenworthofRichfield Your videos are surly informational, to hear you talk about various truck configurations and the performance each will delivers.
@@bob_atwestmi_fl_us7812 Thanks!!!! I'll keep working on improving them with the feedback from you guys
I climb alot of hills and mountains here in PA. Those lower gear ratios are bad in my case. 3.55 is the minimum I would be able to do. Is that possible with that trans? Also I've never driven an automatic. I'm an owner operator.
You could do a 3.55, but you'd lose a ton of mileage and speed. I'd rather let the trans shift going up a hill and get the mileage on the flats. the 2.79 or 2.88 is definitely the way to go in this truck. Especially the case with the low end torque that it has.
Most European engines for trucks are designed for 900 rpm - 1300 rpm and has 12 speed. This engine is what you get in the DAF trucks in Europe. They have a 530 hp version too now. Not sure if its available in the US. Music needs work... :P When you sit inside the truck the music was way louder than your voice. ^^
Slowly but surely stuff like that is making it's way over the pond to America....
Thanks for the tour but are you promoting the truck or the Music??
I have a new 20/20 t680 with a Packard motor 12-speed automatic the transmission has been nothing but problems the truck rides very nice but I wish the seat would go back further for me I am very tall and it hits the cabinet. Has left me on the side of the road five times maybe it was built on a Monday instead of the middle of the week just a guess.
What problrms ?
With those tall (low numerical ratio) geared rear ends, how about the starting ability with a full 40 ton load up a grade with that 12 speed? Is the first gear (highest numerical ratio) high enough to not slip the clutch too much to get the load going? The truck seems to run great 'bobtail'. But what about load performance?
It actually does really well with it George. There's a 14.43:1 first gear ratio, so you've got plenty of grunt to get it going.
Im actually really surprised how they pull hills with the super low rear-end ratio. Yet get much better fuel mileage in top gear.
What’s the difference between the transmission shifters that mounted on the wheel vs the one more like a car shifter next to the air brake knobs?
Year. That's it. Newer trucks have them on the column. Older ones have them on the dash.
Kenworth of Richfield sams transmission? How do people like them?
Does this new transmission make it easier for green horns (like me) to drive a truck? I've been turn down by numerous trucking schools claiming someone like me will never be able to handle a vehicle of this size. That is the ONLY reason why I am not drive a semi. I've been driving pickups since I had license and I have towed long & heavy trailers with those trucks. I LOVE trucks of all sizes. Yes, I know pickups are nothing remotely close to a big semi with 18 (or more) wheels and towing thousands of pounds of cargo.
Can you get extra storage vs a second bunk? I like that cabinet package in the video of the W990 interior from the comparison video. As for that 2.79 ratio, wouldn't a 3.36 or 3.25 be better? Drove a 2016 Pete 579 w/ paccar 500 1850tq 13spd 3.36 rears, she pulled great...gotta be honest tho,I'd prefer that truck w/a chrome bumper, but that's me...lol. Nice truck.
We can do a chrome bumper!!!! When you see how this truck goes down the road and how it pulls, the 2.79 works really, really well. Especially in combination wit the transmission.
Also....on the shelf, with the high roof, we cannot get the upper shelf and I'm not sure why. My folks just turn the upper bunk into a shelf if they aren't running team.
@@KenworthofRichfield...cool beans, thanks.
So where do you go to find out how much these trucks are? I'd like to know the price without having to come in first, at least a base price. Hard to hear about the apu over the music.
Scott, this one is at $169k. We can get you into something without and APU for around $145/$155k depending on what all you want/need
I'm a a bit confused, Josh, about the transmission. At 4:30 into the vid yo say it has a clutch. Is' that for starting & stopping only? At 9:42 you say it has 2 pedals to mess with. Sounds like no clutch. Also that math lesson would be helpful. At 1100 rpm and a 2.79 rear gear, what speed would you be running? I really enjoy the explanations, the education. You are the first to mention (that I've ever heard) about the KIM system, though I think it's been around a while, right? Thanks again for you vids, Josh. We need the education! :~)
Thanks Frank! This truck has a clutch. In fact, it's the same clutch as the manual transmission version. It only has 2 pedals as the computer controls the clutch. There's an electric/air actuator that controls the clutch on automated transmissions like this one. As far as the KIMS system, I plan on going farther in depth in that system with the next truck that we get in that has one in it. I forget exactly what RPM we are at when running 1100RPM.
Compared with last model, this one lost one shelf for storage.
Headlights are not so bright compared with competition.
I do not know why kenworth makes drivers area narrower than competition. Dirt get to side of windows and body, and you have to clean all the time.
You have to see fender mirrors alot because convex mirrror visions are smaller than the last model.
I have noticed airbags are fragile, and oil gets into coolant reservoir, and exhoust
leaks out of engine blocks, transmission can go wrong if airbags are not working properly. Be aware of those known problems.
Since you did a W990 vs W900 head to head have you thought about doing a T800 vs T880 head to head?
Justin Bechtel they are the same truck basically.
@@brandonpryormusic there is a few differences though, much like the w900 vs the w990
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There's still some things very different about them. I drove a T800 for 9 years before getting my first T880 and there about the same from the frame down. I think the T880 has a lil better turning radius cause I noticed how tightly it turned compared to the T800. Definitely different on the top side of the frame rails. That would be a good comparison as well, T800 vs T880.
Interesting idea. I like it. I'll have to take a look on the lot to see what trucks I have that are similar. :D
What does engine speed in the low 3's mean. 1300 rpm' s?
Low 3's? where did you see that?
@@KenworthofRichfield
@ 5:55
@@garfieldthomas8118 Meant engine speed as if you has a low 3.xx gear ratio.
@@KenworthofRichfield
Now I see. Thanks.
HI,wish you would tell a ball park figure of cost?? we live close to chillocothe,ohio my friend ordered a new 680 via a lousiana sales man,when its done in sept ,he cannot pick it up locally but in lousiana,thats crap,more red tape and his cost to fly down and pick it up,,great show and details,,b safe,,CRIP in zanesville
Steve, this one is fresh enough that I don't even have the rate sheet for it as of yet. LOL Shoot me an email at jtroche@hissongkw.com and I'll see if I can get the boss to run the numbers. If you're in Zanesville, heck, I could deliver this one through our TRP facility there. :D Mail me and I'll get #'s and that for you on it.
I love that color on the 680 instead of the painted bumper chrome bumper and paccar mx13 12spd
It's really just a sharp setup all together. :D
Is this the endurant transmission. ?
Impressive editing
Thanks!!!!! It's kinda my thing and I love to have fun with these. :D
This one below is my favorite edit so far. :D
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Outside of some minor cosmetics' on the front fender and grill the 680 and 880 look to be the same truck. Why make both? I understand the 2.1 cab axed the 660 so we have the 680. This reminds me of the GMC Chevrolet pickups. GM makes both and other than some minor cosmetics it is the same truck. The 660 was a really nice rig. I hate that it is no longer made today.
I think it's just like how Kenworth has done with the T600, T800 and W900 line. Their carrying it over and continuing it with the T680, T880 and W990 with each one having it's purpose. The T680 is their on highway model, T880 is vocational and the new W990 is that long hood model that people seem to love. Plus a lil bit of a variety is good as well. Not to mention that all three can be available as day cabs and mid roofs.
@@waynenorbreyjr9371 I understand where you are coming from, but there was an obvious difference in the t600, t800 and w900. The 660 fit really well into this lineup after the end of the t600, but if everything is going to the 2.1 cab then all they need is the 880 and the 990. There are not any differences in the 680 and 880 and most of the OTR trucks I am seeing are the 880's and just a few 680's. I literally have to walk up and look at the door to see if they are 880 or 680. No sense in having both and I see KW getting rid of one or making some changes to make the two different.
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Yeah, the T680 and T880 have there slight differences. The grille, bumper, headlights and fenders are a lil bit different on the T880. It was sad to see the T660 go, the comforts and the space of the T680 is what Kenworth needed and that was the go to truck. Other manufacturers were already offering the wider cabs and I was always wondering when Paccar was gonna follow suit. They tried, but I thought that the T2000 and 387 might have been too wide, my opinion of course. The T680 is a good balance between the T2000 and the T660.
Was curious about where the air horn is located on the exterior of the truck?
Kenworth super machines 😎👍🇺🇸
Thanks! I'm glad I get to work with The Worlds Best!
Hi everyone, what the basic new truck warranty for T680 with the Paccar engine.?
Do emission problems
How's turning radius on 2020? I have 2016 and it just won't turn.
It's great.....but it's the same as the 2016. From what we've found, if a T680 isn't turning sharp, you need to have the steering stops checked out. In some cases, they come a bit tight from the factory. Get them adjusted properly and you should be good to go and happier with your 2016 still.
And You Had Forgotten To Mention About The 20' inch Flat Screen HDMI Color Television With A Built in Auxilliary ( AUX ) Audio input System
There's all sorts of things I didn't cover as I'm pretty sure that you guys don't want a 2 hour feature film on a truck. Lol
Do they come with studio sleeper? I know the T660 does. Is there 2020 T660?
Music is fine on the video :))))
No studio sleeper for the T680 and they stopped producing the T660 in 2017 if I'm not mistaken. The T680 had become the truck of choice. Would have been nice to see the T660 hang in there, but I guess it wasn't meant to be.
Yes, I agree with you on the music, I'm totally ok with it as well.
Wayne is right. No studio on this truck as this uses the 2.1m cab platform which has the 76" sleeper. Unfortunately, the T660 is no more :(
I need a fleet of these in black...
120 and a 110 tanks.... why not BOTH at 120??
I was just at the KW up here.... all they had was WHITE! ugh but still these beauties are incredible eye candy when seen in person ;)
We did it so there's room for an APU and other things on the side. :D We've got a green one here also.
@@KenworthofRichfield (slap on the forehead) that's right! I knew I was forgetting something lol the missing link to make it cost effective while looking
I really do appreciate you being pro-active in the chats, most just post and move on, another positive image for KW ;)
@@l0rdcroissant Thanks! I do what I can to help out. I feel that it's my duty to help educate. :D
why are there no built in step in the front bumpers? hell my pickup truck has those
Why do we need one on this? You can reach everything you need to on the front from the ground.
You have a good product, and you're not an idiot. You don't need the horrible music.
So keeping within budget how much?, NICE machine!
Can it pull 102-105. Lbs gvw
What are the prices for a t680 and the w900 and w990
Can we order in the T680, the same table set up interior as in the volvo vnl 860.
Hi Josh - Thank you for all your informative videos (they're awesome) - do you sell trucks personally?
What would the price tag be on that particular spec of truck?
And how does it stack up against the Eaton endurant?
The mechanical components are the same....it's just some different programming to pair with the Paccar engine better.
That's the one I want how much is it?
Nice truck. I have a 2015 T680.
I kind of been thinking about volvo.
I have only owned kenworth. Cut my teeth on a 1971 narrow nose peterbuilt.
Cummins and 6×4 transmission.
I need to look at a new T680.
I would rather get another W900l.
But i need to make money. And fuel millage is not that good.
How much is “not breaking the bank”?
It depends on your bank Rob. haha. If you could, please send me an email at jtroche@hissongkw.com and I'll work on getting pricing together today.
Great video love the truck but how much are we talking about $$$
I usually don't include prices as market conditions change etc. This truck has sold, but we have some similar ones on the ground currently.
Oh somewhere in the range of $156,000.00. Yeah insane.
Are manual transmission more reliable than automatic?
Overall, they're about the same in terms of reliability. There is the occasional hiccup with an air system or solenoid, but there's also the earlier wear with the manual, so it's very much a trade off.
Kenworth of Richfield I seems that manual are harder to drive why would someone want to drive them instead of automatic if they are the same in reliability,power and almost everything?
@@erasmomartinez867 testosterone. lol
ever try comparing brother Peterbilt with KW ?
I've thought about comparing....but it's a tough position to do that from as it would probably just end up looking like I would be ripping on the Pete. I try to do my best in highlighting what makes the Kenworth "The Worlds Best" and let you make the comparisons from there.
Could that truck haul carnival rides
With 2.79 ratio what rpm does it have at 65 mph , would you recommend this ratio for running the northeast gross close to 80k.
So are you required to have a CDL?
I have my CDL and for these truck, yes....you are required to have a CDL
I can speak for no one buy my self trash the top bunk add storage & the wardrobe take it out drop a Cassette potty there that'
s what is needed
I wish you would turn the music off so I can hear you talk
pull out drawer fridge are the worst a waste of space for getting as
much food in there as possible, nice idea but not efficient where an
inch by inch living space is absolutely critical
Don't need the music?
These trucks are probably great until you have to rebuild the motor or transmission. 2500 of these used online for sale. Nobody holding them for rebuild, guess everything is disposable now even KW's.
Thinking about buying one of these used for 30k, gut it, then throw in a cat with a 13 speed. Then you have a nice reliable truck you can work on.
On the Paccar engine, it's got a B10 lifespan meaning that 90% of them will make it to 1,000,000 miles without a major overhaul. So yeah.....that's why they aren't getting rebuilt as much. :D
@@KenworthofRichfield My Cat has over 3 million miles with 4 rebuilds. We don't throw our trucks away at a million miles.
@@rontn64 Something else to consider..... The T680 came out in 2013. So it's just now 6 years old. So for some of them to have 1,000,000 on them makes for 166,666 mi/year average. Give them some time.
So its basically a dual clutch?
I believe that this is a single clutch.
I bet it doesn't do between 8 to 10 mpg at 44 tons . Know for a fact that my scania hiline does 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I bet it would do better than that if it were governed down to 56 miles an hour like your Scania is..
@@walkerforsyth6221 Lol..only down hill and out of gear
You need to fire your sound guy
Good review, but that annoying background music needs to go. I don't understand why people think they have to have music playing while they are trying to give a review. It makes the person harder to hear.
Better video tho love it!!
Thank you!!!!
Music was great! Makes the video really stand out
Thanks Shane!
@@KenworthofRichfield anything different about the 2021 Kenworth T-680's? Have they not come out yet.
@@shanethegreat9751 There are some small changes, but overall, it's the same great truck.
@@KenworthofRichfield when are you going to do a review on the 2021 KW?
The company I work for has over 65/T-680's!
@@KenworthofRichfield do you work directly with the Kenworth Manufacturing? I have some ideas that I want to give to Kenworth that would improve the inside of the Cab
That engine kept mine in the shop most of the time fot one thing or the other not good !stay with cummins
Just plain unlucky. Have used the paccar with great success and love it..
2.79 is a high high ⚙ gear ratio.
I love my t680 really do and glad it dont have the paccar in it. Have never been a fan of then nor have they proved themselves to me. Only thing t680s meed in my opinion is better Jake, freightliner puts yiu guys to shame in that category and I thing the only reason they remain in compitition.
They all break the bank
hahaha. I get it. :D
Thumps up
Thanks Dalton!
You say it wont break the bank but dont say the price .i wish you would meantion the price on the trucks the way th3re set up whhen you do your videos osl get rid the music
Woah she's looking as almost as good as my wife looks, if not better 😉 ❤👌
We won't tell her you said that. :D
my dad know few guy that drive paccar engine they all say it suck
I love my 500 Paccar motor.
Gr8 vid
I would never run a truck with a Paccar motor...company I drove for in 2017 had a T800 tractor with a Paccar in it and it was constantly having engine issues
Interesting Aaron. We've got a lot of folks that are having really good luck with them. Was that the only Paccar engine in the fleet?
@@KenworthofRichfield yep, we had 5 other Kenworths, three T800s, two were Cat powered and the last one was a Cummins. We also had two T300s that had small Cat motors. We had a mixed construction fleet, Kenworth, International Paystars, a couple of Petes, a Mack tractor and a lone Sterling.
I'd rather throw a C12 or 15 Cat under the hood or a Detroit 60 series...
@@aaronsanborn4291 I guess what I'm getting at is don't let the experience with one bad engine sully your idea of the whole group. UPS, FedEx, and a ton of other fleets have swapped over to the Paccar....and they don't move like that unless it makes $$$ sense. :D
@@KenworthofRichfield that's not the only one I know of that's had issues that's just the one I know of first hand because I saw all the problems. We had all Cummins and Cat motors otherwise and we ran em hard running mixers and dump trucks only motor we had a problem with was the Paccar. Fedex and UPS run what we refer to here as flat land trucks...
Autoshift is great if you do nothing but Wal-Mart DC's. Problem is you can't make any money hauling to Wal-Mart DC's.
There's a lot of people running these transmissions for a ton of applications and they're loving them.
my company tried putting me an this junk automated, almost quit my job & just like that I got the Peterbilt 389, Cummins & 13spd manual.
Great video, except for that annoying music. I couldn’t finish watching it because of it.
Like the truck If only it had a better engine that won't break down and spent most of the time in the Dealership for repairs
Sounds like car comercial for peaple that don't know nothikg about trucks or kids chanel.
Interesting take on it. Want more technical information? Want more bells and whistles? You tell me.