Ended up getting this plane in the end, first impressions are that the ergonomics are very good. Regarding the 'soft' screw on the frog, it seems a bit cheap indeed, but I wondered if it might be to prevent damaging the frog by users screwing it in too hard? All the other screws are nicely machined brass or stainless, so can't imagine they're saving a ton by having one screw of a softer metal. It's easier to replace the screw than to replace the casting of the frog.Just a thought.
Thanks for watching and comment. I’m using mine for work at the moment , I tend to swap the tools I use from time to time so I get to use something different. I’m pleased with its Performance there is a lot of room on the handle which makes a nice change from some which are too tight. As for the screw it does seem a strange choice I think it’s just an easy option to use an off the shelf screw I don’t think any thought went into it’s just what’s available. I’m glad you went with the one you wanted I’m sure it will serve you well. 👍
Morning Chris. Good to see how these go together. I've got one sitting on a shelf. Bought it in 2019 for £95. Covered in rust.. It wasn't rust it was heavy brown grease and still waiting for the right time to strip down and get working. Turns out it has never been used or sharpened. I've held mine and feel the handle needs to move closer. Keep up the great videos. Jamie
Thanks for this video. I'm considering this one, actually because of the handle. I really like the larger handle on my Veritas scrub plane, which seems to be working well with my relatively large hands. Using a Stanley No. 4 works, but my hands always feel a bit cramped up like you showed in the video.
@@michael.knight Thanks for watching and comment. If you like an open upright handle the Veritas is probably the best option. I find the lie Nielsen handles very small and cramped I fitted mine with a vintage Record handle and it is much more comfortable to use and feels lighter. 👍
@@chrisfinn1162 Thanks, might get the Veritas then. Resale value is quite good, so if I don't like it I can always swap it out for something else or just continue using the Stanley #4
@@michael.knight Just a thought on an affordable n4 smoothing plane with an open handle is the Stanley Sweetheart no 4. I like mine a lot and for the money has a lot going for it. It has a bit of weight to it and the frog is cast in so very strong and simple. The A2 blade is great. I have a video on how I modified mine to make it feel more traditional but in your case probably best left standard. The finish is a bit basic but you can always tidy it up yourself to your liking. About £118 at the moment if you don’t mind tuning it they work well. Being this design the handle can also be modified to your liking.👍
Ahh. I need to ask. Money/cost aside. Which feels better thus plane or the current Stanley 'Sweetheart' 136.? Personally I think that Stanley have it by fixing the frog and the adjustable mouth. What do you think if they were both £200. Which would you buy based on use and ease of use. Cheers Jamie
Thanks for watching and comments. That’s a really difficult question. I’ve put both together the Veritas and my modified Stanley SW. What was surprising to me is the profiles are almost identical. The weight almost the same too. The Stanley is just 27g heavier. If they were both the same price I would have difficulty choosing. If I could only keep one it would be the Stanley because it’s one of my planes i most like to use. I will probably keep the Stanley and sell the Veritas at some point. The one thing that does concern me about the Veritas is durability it feels some how vulnerable to wear and if dropped it might be terminal. I hope this helps you decide.👍. just something you mentioned In the comments on the video of the Stanley SW about moving the handle forward 12mm might not be enough. It could be problematic to move it forward more than this due to the location pins on the casting. Thinking back I took a bit off the front of the handle base to tilt it forward a bit more.The top of the handle is now about 8mm from the adjuster which is probably as close as is feasible.Hope this helps.👍
Nice video Chris. I have a number of Veritas planes. I've never been disappointed with any of them. Currently waiting for a Veritas Shooting plane with the PM-V11 blade. Cheers mate.
6:10 - I bought 3 big carpenter's firmer chisels from Henry Taylor a coupla years ago ... and some muppet in the factory had made them all very nice and shiny on the buffing wheel, especially on the back, up front, making a huge back-bevel. Unbelievable! I had to use an angle grinder to freehand a japanese-style hollow on the back of them before having a mother of a flattening session with coarse sandpaper on glass. This tells me there is NO QUALITY CONTROL at the manufacturers. No one knows and no one cares. Please do not be offended by what I am about to say! but ... I no longer buy British tools. They are awful! It pains me to say, being half British myself, but I've ONLY had bad experiences with British tools. I know that some / most of them are not even manufactured in the UK, only sold under a UK brand name, but still ... These days, I'm willing to pay good money for tools that aren't f**ck'd up. They are my livelihood. I cannot be spending half a working day nursing a hand tool into barely adequate performance. If I were a hobbyist it would be another matter, but I'm not.
Yes totally agree polishing or in some cases people trying to sharpen on a buffing wheel is madness. I also agree about British tool brands being crap . Sadly famous British brands are only interested in making cheap and staking high to make profit from tools that are subpar or useless. Complete waste of resources to end up in landfill.
Ended up getting this plane in the end, first impressions are that the ergonomics are very good. Regarding the 'soft' screw on the frog, it seems a bit cheap indeed, but I wondered if it might be to prevent damaging the frog by users screwing it in too hard? All the other screws are nicely machined brass or stainless, so can't imagine they're saving a ton by having one screw of a softer metal. It's easier to replace the screw than to replace the casting of the frog.Just a thought.
Thanks for watching and comment. I’m using mine for work at the moment , I tend to swap the tools I use from time to time so I get to use something different. I’m pleased with its Performance there is a lot of room on the handle which makes a nice change from some which are too tight. As for the screw it does seem a strange choice I think it’s just an easy option to use an off the shelf screw I don’t think any thought went into it’s just what’s available. I’m glad you went with the one you wanted I’m sure it will serve you well. 👍
Morning Chris. Good to see how these go together. I've got one sitting on a shelf. Bought it in 2019 for £95. Covered in rust.. It wasn't rust it was heavy brown grease and still waiting for the right time to strip down and get working. Turns out it has never been used or sharpened.
I've held mine and feel the handle needs to move closer. Keep up the great videos.
Jamie
Thanks for this video. I'm considering this one, actually because of the handle. I really like the larger handle on my Veritas scrub plane, which seems to be working well with my relatively large hands. Using a Stanley No. 4 works, but my hands always feel a bit cramped up like you showed in the video.
@@michael.knight Thanks for watching and comment. If you like an open upright handle the Veritas is probably the best option. I find the lie Nielsen handles very small and cramped I fitted mine with a vintage Record handle and it is much more comfortable to use and feels lighter. 👍
@@chrisfinn1162 Thanks, might get the Veritas then. Resale value is quite good, so if I don't like it I can always swap it out for something else or just continue using the Stanley #4
@@michael.knight Just a thought on an affordable n4 smoothing plane with an open handle is the Stanley Sweetheart no 4. I like mine a lot and for the money has a lot going for it. It has a bit of weight to it and the frog is cast in so very strong and simple. The A2 blade is great. I have a video on how I modified mine to make it feel more traditional but in your case probably best left standard. The finish is a bit basic but you can always tidy it up yourself to your liking. About £118 at the moment if you don’t mind tuning it they work well. Being this design the handle can also be modified to your liking.👍
@@chrisfinn1162 Thanks will take a look at your video!
Ahh. I need to ask. Money/cost aside. Which feels better thus plane or the current Stanley 'Sweetheart' 136.? Personally I think that Stanley have it by fixing the frog and the adjustable mouth. What do you think if they were both £200. Which would you buy based on use and ease of use.
Cheers
Jamie
Thanks for watching and comments. That’s a really difficult question. I’ve put both together the Veritas and my modified Stanley SW. What was surprising to me is the profiles are almost identical. The weight almost the same too. The Stanley is just 27g heavier. If they were both the same price I would have difficulty choosing. If I could only keep one it would be the Stanley because it’s one of my planes i most like to use. I will probably keep the Stanley and sell the Veritas at some point. The one thing that does concern me about the Veritas is durability it feels some how vulnerable to wear and if dropped it might be terminal. I hope this helps you decide.👍. just something you mentioned In the comments on the video of the Stanley SW about moving the handle forward 12mm might not be enough. It could be problematic to move it forward more than this due to the location pins on the casting. Thinking back I took a bit off the front of the handle base to tilt it forward a bit more.The top of the handle is now about 8mm from the adjuster which is probably as close as is feasible.Hope this helps.👍
Nice video Chris. I have a number of Veritas planes. I've never been disappointed with any of them. Currently waiting for a Veritas Shooting plane with the PM-V11 blade. Cheers mate.
Thanks for watching and comment. My Veritas block plane has the PM-V11 blade keeps its edge forever.👍
6:10 - I bought 3 big carpenter's firmer chisels from Henry Taylor a coupla years ago ... and some muppet in the factory had made them all very nice and shiny on the buffing wheel, especially on the back, up front, making a huge back-bevel. Unbelievable! I had to use an angle grinder to freehand a japanese-style hollow on the back of them before having a mother of a flattening session with coarse sandpaper on glass.
This tells me there is NO QUALITY CONTROL at the manufacturers. No one knows and no one cares. Please do not be offended by what I am about to say! but ... I no longer buy British tools. They are awful! It pains me to say, being half British myself, but I've ONLY had bad experiences with British tools. I know that some / most of them are not even manufactured in the UK, only sold under a UK brand name, but still ...
These days, I'm willing to pay good money for tools that aren't f**ck'd up. They are my livelihood. I cannot be spending half a working day nursing a hand tool into barely adequate performance. If I were a hobbyist it would be another matter, but I'm not.
Yes totally agree polishing or in some cases people trying to sharpen on a buffing wheel is madness. I also agree about British tool brands being crap . Sadly famous British brands are only interested in making cheap and staking high to make profit from tools that are subpar or useless. Complete waste of resources to end up in landfill.