And yet at 1:38 they are functioning normally when brakes are applied! Maybe just a flaky connection. Plus, check out the chapter titles at the beginning of the video. 😅
I loved everything about this video. The constant chuckles, the donuts while waiting for the friend, doing things that ppl think shouldn’t be done, the power walk in full ski gear 😂. *chef kiss*
The most fun I've ever had in a car was all through last winter in my GR86 on Michelin x Snows. In Canada! I can't even imagine how great the Elise must feel.
Dude. That's a dream right there haha. This winter I've got a '21 Genesis G70 2.0t RWD with a manual! It's been a riot so far with all the fresh snow we've been getting in Edmonton
@milesfathi the BRZ/86 might be more fun because of the size and weight, but the G70 with a manual and RWD is the perfect fun luxurious commuter. I have the same tires as you by the way haha and I'm ecstatic when it freshly snows
@milesfathi oh and the manual is stupid rare apparently. I read they only made like 71 for the outgoing year of 2021 and maybe 200-300 combined for the previous two years
@@shawnshelton4709 mustang GT has same ground clearance as regular Toyota Corolla. I had no problems with my 2013 GT in Finland. Studded winter continentals however. Because slip limit is low on snow , it won't snap on you even if you drift it.
Amazing! This is like having live footage of a dream you’re trying to explain to your friends. Inexplicably fun, with elements that seem out of place…yet oddly satisfying. Like seeing a lotus with a ski rack, love it!
Love it! Always love seeing RWD sports cars up at the mountain with proper snow tires. I haven't seen a Lotus up there yet. Both of my MR2's have been up a few times; not on a good pow day yet, but that may have to change soon.
Been driving my 911 4S everyday every winter, often in snowstorms up Northern Canada for 14 years. The car is awesome and has definitely saved me from bad situations a few times. The 911 going up ski mountains or on ice roads up north or just heading to the office in a snowstorm is ... an adventure within the adventure that is life. Life is a series of adventures; the 911 is a great tool to create unforgettable memories, should you dare. :)
A note from personal experience -- today's modern sports cars (and many others too!) are built with significant aluminum content in their suspensions. Aluminum + steel + salt = galvanic reaction. A galvanized body like the Boxster's will also contribute to this. If you put dissimilar metals in an environment with free ions, electrons will flow. You absolutely will get aluminum oxide build-up where the two metals meet -- specifically in bolt-holes. Aluminum oxide is an extremely hard and abrasive material which is used on sand-papers. This will render just about every bolt in your suspension seized in place. Porsche understood this, and this is why a generous coating of underbody sealer (cosmoline) was applied to everything. It also helps to make sure that bolts are installed with a coating of grease on the shank and threads. Since I do use my Boxster in the off-season, I also added pieces of magnesium as sacrificial nodes which I mounted with screws onto the bearing carriers. At a minimum, make sure that your car's undercoating has been freshened if needed.
Great video, loved your boyish enthusiasm about driving in the snow I grew up in Chicago and moved to Texas many years ago and man! do I miss the snow! There's something about the first snow fall of winter thats just special especially when you can enjoy it by going for a drive to go skiing . Had to watch it twice
As always my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed you folks taking us along for the ride!!! Yes being Canadian I can tell you that snow tires really do make a difference!!!
As a v8 swapped miata enthusiast living in montana... I can confirm winter driving is one of the most fun parts of owning a sports car. Everyone thinks you're crazy until they realize you can outstop and outbrake anything else, even in the snow. That said, snow tires are the key, I've run the michelin X-ice, blizzaks, and firestone winterforce and definitely liked the blizzaks the best. I also have played around with a paco motorsports lift in the winter, just to get a little extra ground clearance for the deep powder days.
Love to see a fellow Cayman owner driving it year round in the snow as well! Take mine to the slopes every weekend here in Europe. Thanks guys for the video!!!
Loved this video. I've taken Audi TT from Vegas to Mammoth, CA and way back in the day a Honda Accord Hatchback from Phoenix to Durango skiing. It is so much fun to do and love to see the looks on folks faces when you park it at the ski resort.
Sports cars in the winter are the most fun you can have on the road. My 2012 STi obviously amazing control and fun in the winter. I had to daily an '86 Porsche 944 one year. Superb handling because of the transaxel putting more weight in the rear. This year, I've got a '21 Genesis G70 2.0t RWD with a manual. It's been pure joy so far
I have no hesitation when it comes to two sets of tires and wheels. Played with a couple Vettes ,(auto X, Time Attack), in CO so that was essential. I'm on my second Cayman, even here in TX but it will get cold enough in winter that TW 220 N spec tires could give you a nasty letdown. That's what the Pilot Sport AS tires are for but....damn Paul! I gonna have to really think about reducing my offer on that GTS. 😂🤣Grew up in VT driving BMW "roundies",(2002's and a 1600), so I know it can be done with proper tires. Looks like a blast! Thanks guys. 👍
Very fun and impressive driving and video. Also impressive is the backwards skiing videography. That's not easy to do while filming! I know because I learned how to ski backwards in the 80s so I could make ski videos with my college friends. It was very fun! We'd ski and video all day, edit the footage on video tape in our cabin (yes I was young and crazy and brought a bunch of large video tape editing equipment with me) and then showed the ski video on a huge projection screen for our ski tournament after party. Your sports car ski video brought back some great memories. Cheers!
That's awesome taking your sport cars skiing! Looked like you guys got the last few spots in that lot for that nice powder day! I like my Blizzaks a lot for going up Snowboarding.
Driving a RWD sports car on snow tires is amazing, and I loved doing it. But it also destroyed the cars I did that with. So I'm glad that I can tuck mine away for the winter now.
You Gents not only enjoy cars, you enjoy life! Ah… reminds me of being in high school and driving to Big Bear in my (then new) Fox Body Mustang to go snow boarding. I went back to skiing a long time ago BTW because my (high) 40’s body cannot handle a wipe out on a snowboard. Thanks again Gents!
I have done this with a 987 and built my own roof rack out of foam and carbon fiber. But, having done this, a Macan or Stelvio with snow tires is just as fun, rides much softer in the cold, and the ground clearance means you can go through deeper drifts.
Man, I’ve been so bummed about the weather getting cooler here in Buffalo NY, but this is exactly what I needed to see to excite me for the other half of the GR86 ownership experience- silly, awesome, ridiculous winter driving in my sports car while I go skiing every weekend.
Great video. Will probably watch this video 30 more times this year. Can't wait to put my winter tires on this weekend on my 2022 mx5. Going to be my second winter driving it. I own 2 Subaru's and still take the mx5 all winter long, it's really fun. Winter tires are mandatory in Montreal as of December 1st and that's a good thing. Just like u said " it's just a car ". Hopefully u make more Videos this winter with both cars.
I have the older model seasucker and a set of Viking contact7s on my orange challenger scat pack here in Colorado. You get some funny looks heading up the hill in that, but it’s so fun. Easy to find in the parking lot too!
Very cool. Porsche actually encouages winter driving, including drifting (yes, in 911s) and even offers clinics in winter. Here, the skiing is just icing! (When, I ask you, is a ski day merely icing on a cake?)
The BMW service manager told me that he used to drive his Z4 all winter. Said it was a little tank. I never was brave enough since I had the wide M wheels and also it was a convertible. But I bet it would be a blast. I could just feel the drifting as you were doing it! (Yes, I noticed the taillight immediately!)
Great video ! I also own an orange Lotus Elise in Canada but I haven’t dared drive it in the winter. Instead my winter car is a 2022 Subaru BRZ, an old favorite of yours ! Hats off to you guys !
2006 Elise Touring was my daily in Denver in 2007. Handles pretty well in the snow, surprisingly. I found the snow over the front vents needed to be cleared or they'd steam like nuts.
I do the same every year, I head to the Austrian Alps from the UK for the GP Ice Race in my 996 Targa, and I purposely go hunting for snow, I use Vredestein Winter tyres too, and they cope commendably. The rear engine layout in the car gives great rear traction, but not so much that your can't get a little drifty if you want.
My S1 Elise is actually really good fun in snow (Advan tyres) BUT there comes a point when the snow going under the front actually lifts the car and you loose front grip because the wheels have left the ground! Scary the first time.😮
I live in the northeast and have always driven my sports cars in the winter. Corvette, bmw, camaro, 911, and my Elise when I get one next year will see the snow as well. My rule is, if it’s higher than my front bumper, I take my Humvee.
Drove my 944 year round living in Crested Butte, CO and have so many fun memories hitting all the mountain passes around CO in terrible conditions. Was really only limited by snow depth. Anyone who lives their skis though, keeps them inside 😆
Aluminum and road 'salt' is not exactly a picnic. And every fastener under either car... let's just say I hope you have a fire wrench handy. I love that you do this! Just don't kid yourselves that damage is not being done to the cars.
I used to do this with my 2005 BMW ZHP convertible. It had the ski sack in the trunk and fit two pairs of ski's. 17" snows mounted on steelies were awesome in the winter in new england for skiing and donuts withe dsc turned off.
hats off to you both for having the balls to do this. My Cayman gets driven whenever conditions allow, but given that its my “forever car” it never going to see snow/rain. Can’t stomach the idea of salt and grit getting on/in it.
I get this take completely because that’s my jeep for me! It’s not allowed to see salt and is parked from November-April. Doors haven’t been on it in at least 4 years.
@@apacifico I agree. It’s dumb but I’m keeping this thing forever. Sold a few and regretted it. Wheeled a nice one and regretted that so now I have a cheap, busted, cut up Cherokee for off roading and snow.
Awesome video! Funny how North Americans are so worried about sports car in winter. I daily an M2 CS all winter (had to use snow chains a couple times), good winter tires + LSD + some wight in the back is all you need, and every time at the mountains (I live in Switzerland) I see some 911s, R8s, even GT3s during harsh conditions (tho it doesn’t get as bad as US/Canada).
Great episode. My concern with bringing a car that I plan to enjoy long term is rust and corrosion to hardware as well. Even though the body may be aluminum, there's likely a good bit of steel or iron that is exposed and will be a royal pain to remove. Extracting broken bolts and studs is no fun and not how I want to experience the car that I love. On the bright side, Porsche often uses aluminum hardware which will make a big difference. I'm not sure if Lotus does the same.
When I lived in Denver 3 decades ago I regularly drove my Alpha Romeo Spyder, then my Datsun 260Z up to Loveland and Keystone. Never got stranded. A bit sketchy at times, because I never owned snow tires. But growing up around Detroit you learn to drive in all types of winter weather. And the best way to learn to drive in the snow is to go into an empty parking lot and do controlled donuts. You learn the feel of the car when sliding and you learn how to counter steer and you learn the limits of the car. Then later when the inevitable happens, you just react naturally, rather than in a panic. I’ve given that advice since I was 17 and anyone who had done it has thanked me. I miss Denver and the mountains. A bit flat here in Chicago.
Winter tires. No substitute! Anyone who hasn't driven on them may think this is just hype, but it is most certainly not. They can transform a near undriveable mess into a confident and safe traveler!
Funny enough I just saw a Supra with this exact setup earlier this week! Not in winter conditions however. But as soon as I saw it I said to myself “I gotta tell the guys!”
Winter tires are a game changer! However, it's hard to put so much effort and time and money into a car and then subject it to winter salt. Especially when you go to work on it again and a rusty bolt is stuck and think "why did I do this to myself"
Hi, from Japan!! Thank you for the fun show. You have been recommending to wear all weather tires or winter tires. Now I have a question. Does it work even on very muddy conditions?? I’m asking it from my bad experience. By the way, Todd should change 2nd rear lamp from the left side as you know.
Winter tyres are a no brainer if you live in a cold climate. I run three wheelsets, one summer, one semi-slick and one winter (studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta). It's more fun when you have more power than grip...
I came here to say this; washing isn't enough, and never will be in most northern states. You need to undercoat with regularity; every autumn, like clockwork. I lived in VT for 17 years, I am from Northern NY and live now in PA. Fluid film, liquid wrench - whatever your goop of choice is, spray.
I’d recommend getting the cars either wax lined or oil sprayed. With wax if it’s new not an issue, if it’s older it needs to be rid of gunk, oil, or rust. That either requires pressure wash, laser clean, CO2 blasting or all 3 applications. Now, depending on the formula of the oil it can swell natural rubbers. So apply silicon to protect that from happening, typically those are your weather stripping on doors. Once that stuff is applied on the underbelly and cavities wouldn’t recommend washing it with a pressure washer. If anything should be with a mist sprayer mixed with distilled water and desalter solution. Why distilled? Won’t leave water marks, the mister won’t take off the oil or wax. The oil depending on how bad the snow is add applications on high impact areas. Coilovers add copper to the threads of the collars and add shock covers for protection. I’ve had a 97 Integra see 6 Michigan salt infested winters no rust. Enjoy your vehicles all year round peeps. Salt sucks
Unless every fastener, bolt, screw, suspension component, etc is rust free, DIY is a nightmare. Ever since I moved down South and have worked on cars that lived their whole lives down here, I had no idea how much easier life could be.
I went camping in my lotus exige with a friend. It was hilarious getting 2 tents, sleeping bags, clothes and basic necessities into the car - but you learn to maximize the nooks and crannies. The look of the campers faces when we rocked up after driving 15km on an unsealed road in the middle of nowhere was hilarious…. And terrible. Will never do it again but at least we did it.
An Elise in snow with ski rack?? this guy is officially my hero; subscribed!
The OCD in me couldn’t help but notice you have a tail light out at 53 seconds in 😂
Facts. Immediately noticed it backing out. I couldn't pay attention to anything but that.
I have a feeling it’s the fog light on the right
And yet at 1:38 they are functioning normally when brakes are applied! Maybe just a flaky connection. Plus, check out the chapter titles at the beginning of the video. 😅
Lucas electrics
Not what OCD is …
Sports cars on snows are the best winter vehicles. Anyone who hasn't tried it is missing out.
I loved everything about this video. The constant chuckles, the donuts while waiting for the friend, doing things that ppl think shouldn’t be done, the power walk in full ski gear 😂. *chef kiss*
As I guy that daily’s a nd Miata in Calgary Alberta Canada, I love this vid so much. Thank you guys for your work.
Amazing how good that Lotus looks being almost 20 years old!
This was a fun one guys, thanks for sharing.
The most fun I've ever had in a car was all through last winter in my GR86 on Michelin x Snows. In Canada! I can't even imagine how great the Elise must feel.
Dude. That's a dream right there haha. This winter I've got a '21 Genesis G70 2.0t RWD with a manual! It's been a riot so far with all the fresh snow we've been getting in Edmonton
@booyashaka3182 I didn't even know G70 came with a manual. That must be a fun little car.
@milesfathi the BRZ/86 might be more fun because of the size and weight, but the G70 with a manual and RWD is the perfect fun luxurious commuter. I have the same tires as you by the way haha and I'm ecstatic when it freshly snows
@milesfathi oh and the manual is stupid rare apparently. I read they only made like 71 for the outgoing year of 2021 and maybe 200-300 combined for the previous two years
Drove my 2019 mustang gt in many Colorado and Wyoming winter storms. Winter tires are magical lol. I enjoyed it.
@@shawnshelton4709 mustang GT has same ground clearance as regular Toyota Corolla. I had no problems with my 2013 GT in Finland. Studded winter continentals however. Because slip limit is low on snow , it won't snap on you even if you drift it.
This is what all true Canadian driving enthusiasts need!!!
Amazing! This is like having live footage of a dream you’re trying to explain to your friends. Inexplicably fun, with elements that seem out of place…yet oddly satisfying. Like seeing a lotus with a ski rack, love it!
Love it! Always love seeing RWD sports cars up at the mountain with proper snow tires. I haven't seen a Lotus up there yet. Both of my MR2's have been up a few times; not on a good pow day yet, but that may have to change soon.
Been driving my 911 4S everyday every winter, often in snowstorms up Northern Canada for 14 years. The car is awesome and has definitely saved me from bad situations a few times. The 911 going up ski mountains or on ice roads up north or just heading to the office in a snowstorm is ... an adventure within the adventure that is life. Life is a series of adventures; the 911 is a great tool to create unforgettable memories, should you dare. :)
Thanks for bringing back old memories of when I only owned one sports car and drove it year-round.
This was awesome! You guys create such great content, i feel like im hanging out with friends when i watch your guys videos, god bless yall! 🤙
I think this may be my favorite video that you guys have ever done!
Glad you enjoyed and connected with the Bond reference. Thanks for watching!
One of the best channel out there. I love your work guys. Been watching you from many years now
A note from personal experience -- today's modern sports cars (and many others too!) are built with significant aluminum content in their suspensions. Aluminum + steel + salt = galvanic reaction. A galvanized body like the Boxster's will also contribute to this. If you put dissimilar metals in an environment with free ions, electrons will flow. You absolutely will get aluminum oxide build-up where the two metals meet -- specifically in bolt-holes. Aluminum oxide is an extremely hard and abrasive material which is used on sand-papers. This will render just about every bolt in your suspension seized in place. Porsche understood this, and this is why a generous coating of underbody sealer (cosmoline) was applied to everything. It also helps to make sure that bolts are installed with a coating of grease on the shank and threads. Since I do use my Boxster in the off-season, I also added pieces of magnesium as sacrificial nodes which I mounted with screws onto the bearing carriers. At a minimum, make sure that your car's undercoating has been freshened if needed.
Great video, loved your boyish enthusiasm about driving in the snow I grew up in Chicago and moved to Texas many years ago and man! do I miss the snow! There's something about the first snow fall of winter thats just special especially when you can enjoy it by going for a drive to go skiing . Had to watch it twice
Awesome! Love that you guys included some footage of the slopes, looks like a great time!
This has such 007 Lotus Esprit in the Alps vibes- I love it! Haha- I thought of that before you mentioned it!
SPORTSCARS ARE MADE TO BE DRIVEN!!!
As always my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed you folks taking us along for the ride!!! Yes being Canadian I can tell you that snow tires really do make a difference!!!
I think you guys could make a video driving anything, anywhere, under any conditions, and I'd have fun watching it.
We consider this a huge compliment. Thank you! We’re glad to have you watching!
As a v8 swapped miata enthusiast living in montana... I can confirm winter driving is one of the most fun parts of owning a sports car. Everyone thinks you're crazy until they realize you can outstop and outbrake anything else, even in the snow. That said, snow tires are the key, I've run the michelin X-ice, blizzaks, and firestone winterforce and definitely liked the blizzaks the best. I also have played around with a paco motorsports lift in the winter, just to get a little extra ground clearance for the deep powder days.
This is what we want to see! I’m so jealous. Love this episode. Thank you.
Love to see a fellow Cayman owner driving it year round in the snow as well! Take mine to the slopes every weekend here in Europe. Thanks guys for the video!!!
So great seeing the cars come to life after getting covered in snow sitting there during the skiing. Awesome video!
Loved this video. I've taken Audi TT from Vegas to Mammoth, CA and way back in the day a Honda Accord Hatchback from Phoenix to Durango skiing. It is so much fun to do and love to see the looks on folks faces when you park it at the ski resort.
Sports cars in the winter are the most fun you can have on the road. My 2012 STi obviously amazing control and fun in the winter. I had to daily an '86 Porsche 944 one year. Superb handling because of the transaxel putting more weight in the rear. This year, I've got a '21 Genesis G70 2.0t RWD with a manual. It's been pure joy so far
I have no hesitation when it comes to two sets of tires and wheels. Played with a couple Vettes ,(auto X, Time Attack), in CO so that was essential. I'm on my second Cayman, even here in TX but it will get cold enough in winter that TW 220 N spec tires could give you a nasty letdown. That's what the Pilot Sport AS tires are for but....damn Paul! I gonna have to really think about reducing my offer on that GTS. 😂🤣Grew up in VT driving BMW "roundies",(2002's and a 1600), so I know it can be done with proper tires. Looks like a blast! Thanks guys. 👍
Very fun and impressive driving and video. Also impressive is the backwards skiing videography. That's not easy to do while filming! I know because I learned how to ski backwards in the 80s so I could make ski videos with my college friends. It was very fun! We'd ski and video all day, edit the footage on video tape in our cabin (yes I was young and crazy and brought a bunch of large video tape editing equipment with me) and then showed the ski video on a huge projection screen for our ski tournament after party. Your sports car ski video brought back some great memories. Cheers!
Me: giggles watching the Elise do skids.
Two seconds later…
Todd: giggles while doing skids in the Elise.
That's awesome taking your sport cars skiing! Looked like you guys got the last few spots in that lot for that nice powder day! I like my Blizzaks a lot for going up Snowboarding.
"The Elise was barely designed for rain" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just put winters on my 987.1 CS and can't wait for the first snowfall. Precious? Not any more!!!
I don’t live somewhere to justify snow tires but ever since seeing a 911 at Stowe I wanted to be this guy.
Also, that knee deep powder… can’t wait for that!
@@kc510 You had to reply to yourself a new comment?
Made more sense than a fully new comment. Too lazy to edit.
Driving a RWD sports car on snow tires is amazing, and I loved doing it. But it also destroyed the cars I did that with. So I'm glad that I can tuck mine away for the winter now.
You Gents not only enjoy cars, you enjoy life! Ah… reminds me of being in high school and driving to Big Bear in my (then new) Fox Body Mustang to go snow boarding. I went back to skiing a long time ago BTW because my (high) 40’s body cannot handle a wipe out on a snowboard. Thanks again Gents!
Absolute shenanigans. Love it!
I have done this with a 987 and built my own roof rack out of foam and carbon fiber. But, having done this, a Macan or Stelvio with snow tires is just as fun, rides much softer in the cold, and the ground clearance means you can go through deeper drifts.
This is why I’m subscribed. Pure gold.
You guys are awesome!!! ❤❤❤ CRAZY but awesome!
The Cayman looks even better in the snow!
Man, I’ve been so bummed about the weather getting cooler here in Buffalo NY, but this is exactly what I needed to see to excite me for the other half of the GR86 ownership experience- silly, awesome, ridiculous winter driving in my sports car while I go skiing every weekend.
Kudos to the chase driver!
Very well guys😀Absurd things worths the most in our lives👍
Great video. Will probably watch this video 30 more times this year. Can't wait to put my winter tires on this weekend on my 2022 mx5. Going to be my second winter driving it. I own 2 Subaru's and still take the mx5 all winter long, it's really fun. Winter tires are mandatory in Montreal as of December 1st and that's a good thing. Just like u said " it's just a car ". Hopefully u make more Videos this winter with both cars.
I have the older model seasucker and a set of Viking contact7s on my orange challenger scat pack here in Colorado. You get some funny looks heading up the hill in that, but it’s so fun. Easy to find in the parking lot too!
Very cool. Porsche actually encouages winter driving, including drifting (yes, in 911s) and even offers clinics in winter. Here, the skiing is just icing! (When, I ask you, is a ski day merely icing on a cake?)
The BMW service manager told me that he used to drive his Z4 all winter. Said it was a little tank. I never was brave enough since I had the wide M wheels and also it was a convertible. But I bet it would be a blast. I could just feel the drifting as you were doing it! (Yes, I noticed the taillight immediately!)
This just proves the point that bright colors are the best!🧡🚗💨. “Add Brightness”
I love driving in the snow. its fun and so nice. too bad we don't get that much snow in new jersey any longer
I had nb miata 4 winters in Colorado...snow tires every wintery commute and never missed a day of work with 60 mile commute. And had fun!
I love this! So beautiful!
LOVE THIS!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Great video ! I also own an orange Lotus Elise in Canada but I haven’t dared drive it in the winter. Instead my winter car is a 2022 Subaru BRZ, an old favorite of yours ! Hats off to you guys !
2006 Elise Touring was my daily in Denver in 2007. Handles pretty well in the snow, surprisingly. I found the snow over the front vents needed to be cleared or they'd steam like nuts.
Reminds me of my skitrips in the Swiss and Austrian alps in the 1980s in my Triumph Spitfire (Hardtop on and winter tires and chains). Tons of fun!
I do the same every year, I head to the Austrian Alps from the UK for the GP Ice Race in my 996 Targa, and I purposely go hunting for snow, I use Vredestein Winter tyres too, and they cope commendably. The rear engine layout in the car gives great rear traction, but not so much that your can't get a little drifty if you want.
You crazy kids! Love it!
Loved this!!!!
great stuff, i've always wanted to do this
My S1 Elise is actually really good fun in snow (Advan tyres) BUT there comes a point when the snow going under the front actually lifts the car and you loose front grip because the wheels have left the ground! Scary the first time.😮
240sx owner living in Utah here. You'd be surprised how well a rear wheel drive, lightweight car would handle, especially with snow tires.
Outstanding
Loved this video
You're not the only guy with snows on an Elise. About 10 years ago, I used to see one parked at my office occasionally. Never met the owner.
I live in the northeast and have always driven my sports cars in the winter. Corvette, bmw, camaro, 911, and my Elise when I get one next year will see the snow as well. My rule is, if it’s higher than my front bumper, I take my Humvee.
This is very atypical. I approve! 👨⚖️
Drove my 944 year round living in Crested Butte, CO and have so many fun memories hitting all the mountain passes around CO in terrible conditions. Was really only limited by snow depth. Anyone who lives their skis though, keeps them inside 😆
Aluminum and road 'salt' is not exactly a picnic. And every fastener under either car... let's just say I hope you have a fire wrench handy. I love that you do this! Just don't kid yourselves that damage is not being done to the cars.
I used to do this with my 2005 BMW ZHP convertible. It had the ski sack in the trunk and fit two pairs of ski's. 17" snows mounted on steelies were awesome in the winter in new england for skiing and donuts withe dsc turned off.
I appreciate that Paul's phone case matches his car.
Definition of cool dads
hats off to you both for having the balls to do this. My Cayman gets driven whenever conditions allow, but given that its my “forever car” it never going to see snow/rain. Can’t stomach the idea of salt and grit getting on/in it.
I get this take completely because that’s my jeep for me! It’s not allowed to see salt and is parked from November-April. Doors haven’t been on it in at least 4 years.
I guess that's a point for an Elise having 0 structural steel and the metal it does not have (aluminum) being incapable of growing rust holes
@@kc510 not driving a jeep in winter is really funny to me
@@apacifico I agree. It’s dumb but I’m keeping this thing forever. Sold a few and regretted it. Wheeled a nice one and regretted that so now I have a cheap, busted, cut up Cherokee for off roading and snow.
Awesome video!
Funny how North Americans are so worried about sports car in winter.
I daily an M2 CS all winter (had to use snow chains a couple times), good winter tires + LSD + some wight in the back is all you need, and every time at the mountains (I live in Switzerland) I see some 911s, R8s, even GT3s during harsh conditions (tho it doesn’t get as bad as US/Canada).
Very cool (literally)
Great episode. My concern with bringing a car that I plan to enjoy long term is rust and corrosion to hardware as well. Even though the body may be aluminum, there's likely a good bit of steel or iron that is exposed and will be a royal pain to remove. Extracting broken bolts and studs is no fun and not how I want to experience the car that I love. On the bright side, Porsche often uses aluminum hardware which will make a big difference. I'm not sure if Lotus does the same.
Daily winter driving my Cayman was awesome!
When I lived in Denver 3 decades ago I regularly drove my Alpha Romeo Spyder, then my Datsun 260Z up to Loveland and Keystone. Never got stranded. A bit sketchy at times, because I never owned snow tires.
But growing up around Detroit you learn to drive in all types of winter weather. And the best way to learn to drive in the snow is to go into an empty parking lot and do controlled donuts. You learn the feel of the car when sliding and you learn how to counter steer and you learn the limits of the car. Then later when the inevitable happens, you just react naturally, rather than in a panic. I’ve given that advice since I was 17 and anyone who had done it has thanked me.
I miss Denver and the mountains. A bit flat here in Chicago.
I year-round daily an old z4 coupe in the lake effect snow part of NY state, so this is relevant to my interests.
Sounds like you guys would love a Safari build Miata. Combining your overland Cayenne and sports cars into one car.
Winter tires. No substitute! Anyone who hasn't driven on them may think this is just hype, but it is most certainly not. They can transform a near undriveable mess into a confident and safe traveler!
Funny enough I just saw a Supra with this exact setup earlier this week! Not in winter conditions however. But as soon as I saw it I said to myself “I gotta tell the guys!”
Winter tires are a game changer! However, it's hard to put so much effort and time and money into a car and then subject it to winter salt. Especially when you go to work on it again and a rusty bolt is stuck and think "why did I do this to myself"
great video!
Lotus Elise body is so iconic.
Hi, from Japan!! Thank you for the fun show. You have been recommending to wear all weather tires or winter tires. Now I have a question. Does it work even on very muddy conditions?? I’m asking it from my bad experience. By the way, Todd should change 2nd rear lamp from the left side as you know.
That feeling when your steering wheel goes light in a Lotus Elise...
Winter tyres are a no brainer if you live in a cold climate. I run three wheelsets, one summer, one semi-slick and one winter (studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta). It's more fun when you have more power than grip...
This is why I take my audi tt snowboarding
Yeah that Bond scene is ridiculous but amazing
I came here to say this; washing isn't enough, and never will be in most northern states. You need to undercoat with regularity; every autumn, like clockwork. I lived in VT for 17 years, I am from Northern NY and live now in PA. Fluid film, liquid wrench - whatever your goop of choice is, spray.
Hell yeah! Everyday Skiier!
Life is too short to drive a boring car in winter.
Indeed
Life is too short for boring cars
hell yeah! people look at me slightly funny when I drive my Boxster in the winter
Ah yes, Todd’s cyborg-helmet. Great vid guys!
Paul's phone case that matches his car made me lol
Is it also an automatic?
I’d recommend getting the cars either wax lined or oil sprayed. With wax if it’s new not an issue, if it’s older it needs to be rid of gunk, oil, or rust. That either requires pressure wash, laser clean, CO2 blasting or all 3 applications. Now, depending on the formula of the oil it can swell natural rubbers. So apply silicon to protect that from happening, typically those are your weather stripping on doors.
Once that stuff is applied on the underbelly and cavities wouldn’t recommend washing it with a pressure washer. If anything should be with a mist sprayer mixed with distilled water and desalter solution. Why distilled? Won’t leave water marks, the mister won’t take off the oil or wax. The oil depending on how bad the snow is add applications on high impact areas. Coilovers add copper to the threads of the collars and add shock covers for protection. I’ve had a 97 Integra see 6 Michigan salt infested winters no rust. Enjoy your vehicles all year round peeps. Salt sucks
I'm pretty sure the Elise's structure doesn't care about salt, aluminum's strength being immune to salt water and all that she bang
@@TheImperfectGuy It's also fiberglas body panels too.
I’m arguing cars in general that are 90% or more constructed out of steel. Aluminum still oxidizes just obviously not like steel.
Unless every fastener, bolt, screw, suspension component, etc is rust free, DIY is a nightmare. Ever since I moved down South and have worked on cars that lived their whole lives down here, I had no idea how much easier life could be.
I took delivery of my Elise in the snow
First time I ever drove it!
I went camping in my lotus exige with a friend. It was hilarious getting 2 tents, sleeping bags, clothes and basic necessities into the car - but you learn to maximize the nooks and crannies. The look of the campers faces when we rocked up after driving 15km on an unsealed road in the middle of nowhere was hilarious….
And terrible. Will never do it again but at least we did it.