Maybe have a power point side by side list detailing the differences between these units and what those differences mean in real world use cases so the average person understands the benefit in choosing one unit over another in specific scenarios.
Thank you. I require to do a new video as Victron have now released their II range. Mainly the II is for use in a hybrid situation and the Older version is still the best for complete off grid.
I believe u can run different sized inverters, Andy’s Off Grid Garage uses a 5kw Multiplus II & a 3kw Phoenix as a generator backup for additional power, if required the Multiplus calls up the Phoenix at a pre-determined set point around 3-4kw.
So the Quattro can act as an automatic transfer switch? I want to hook up shore power and alternator+inverter power sources to it. If so will it prioritize shore power, or be able to program it that way? Thanks.
Hi, yes definitely it will. You will want a gx device to do your programming to easily priotise your shore power. You can program the inveter that it always uses shore power until it's disconnected..
I am not shore on the regulations in your state. We used to be able to use them in Australia with this device. And that was years ago. www.victronenergy.com/search/?q=Anti+island
Can the muti plus auto start a generator? I’m way off grid so other then Solar my only power source will be an lp generator. What model would you recommend?
Yes it can. I would recommend getting the Cerbo and touch screen using that for your auto start. And get the biggest inverter you can afford. It's the hardest and most expensive thing to grow in the future.
On victrons data sheet is says the 15kva mp2 can be hooked up in 3 phase of 18 units for 75kw inverter. And the 15kva quattro can be 12 units in 3 phase for 144kw. Doesn't make sense?
Yes they can be. 3 phase you can do 6 groups of 3 15kvas units. 6 x 45 is my understanding. Single phase you can do upto 12 units in parallel. I hope this helps. You designing a big system?
If it's a 5kva Quattro it will double the out our for 3 seconds. If you have look at the data sheet it will all depend on the temperature it's operating at. A 5kva is normally good for 4000 watts for 30 minutes continually.
The vehicle batteries would have to match the voltage parameters of the Quattro. Most EVs operate at around 400v whereas the Quattro operates around the 48v mark. Best to speak with someone directly www.theoffgridshop.com.au/pages/contact-us-1
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Multiplus-II 48v 5,000VA or a Quattro 48v 5,000VA, with two 48v 100ah server rack batteries. My intension is totally off grid mobile workshop Sprinter van. I would like the ability to plug in a generator if the battery power ran low or I needed to charge it off grid. No solar initially, but maybe some solar panels down the road, and even a third 48v battery down the road. But for starters, cost wise, just the inverter/batteries. I'm currently using two Honda EU2200i Generators paralleled. I'm still not quite sure what I should get even after watching this video LOL, I'll probably have to watch it again LOL. I don't need anything super fancy just want a quieter and less gas exhaust fumes and always available power. I think a 5,000VA 48v Victron might be comparable, hopefully a tad better, than my two Honda 2200's in parallel.
A few things I would consider. If you want ease and it other people will use it get a Quattro. Very easy to have the generator on one input and the grid on the other to plug into mains when required. These days with software you can change the input current. So if you have a small generator and want to turn the amps down you can from the touch screen. And Same as id you have the grid and the right wiring you can turn it up to charge faster through the one input. Me personally I would go a Quattro with a 15 amp generator plus on one and a 32 amp industrial plug on the other input. Does that help?
@@TheOffGridShop Thanks! Yes, there might be situations where if I run low on battery power, I would like to plug in a generator to charge or supplement. When I get home for the day I can plug into shore power to recharge for the next days work. So if you were just going with a 48v 5kva Quattro, what other Victron parts would you get? I will pretty much be the only one managing the system. It is to power a few tools, fans and lighting at the same time. My two 2200 Hondas work but when I am in full swing I do hear the generators struggle a bit when I turn on the last few items. But once turned on the Honda's seem okay and I've not had issues, yet. But again I would prefer the quietness and no fumes of an inverter/battery system. Again, what other Victron parts would I need for a Quattro build? What touch screen are you talking about?
yeah, i didnt get much out of this. this is for noobs 101 - beyond that there is no value here - you will have to dive in much much much deeper then this
Thank you Jim. Yes this is a simple difference. And the reality is that's the only difference in the units. Everything else is the same on them. Is there something in particular you're looking for I can help you with?
@@TheOffGridShop I think they are referring to the audio, there is a constant hum/buzz in the background and that makes your voice not clear. Good info your providing, but your audio on the video is somewhat hard to hear good.
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Maybe have a power point side by side list detailing the differences between these units and what those differences mean in real world use cases so the average person understands the benefit in choosing one unit over another in specific scenarios.
Thank you for the suggestion. Great idea.
Just what I was researching.... Thanks for the info Mike😀
Thank you. I require to do a new video as Victron have now released their II range. Mainly the II is for use in a hybrid situation and the Older version is still the best for complete off grid.
I believe u can run different sized inverters, Andy’s Off Grid Garage uses a 5kw Multiplus II & a 3kw Phoenix as a generator backup for additional power, if required the Multiplus calls up the Phoenix at a pre-determined set point around 3-4kw.
Yeah Andy uses it for diffrent reasons than the way we design. Andy also had that form a previous system and made it work which was great.
So the Quattro can act as an automatic transfer switch? I want to hook up shore power and alternator+inverter power sources to it. If so will it prioritize shore power, or be able to program it that way? Thanks.
Hi, yes definitely it will. You will want a gx device to do your programming to easily priotise your shore power. You can program the inveter that it always uses shore power until it's disconnected..
Can the Quattro be used like a grid-tie? I'm in Washington state USA
I am not shore on the regulations in your state. We used to be able to use them in Australia with this device. And that was years ago. www.victronenergy.com/search/?q=Anti+island
I would suggest call a Victron dealer on your area and ask. You will find one from the Victron website on the left. The states is very complicated.
does the generator needs to be specific? will the yamaha efi2000 or Honda EUi20 work with the multiplus to charge the battery bank when needed?
On the smaller size ones yes. The bigger you go IE a 10kva. It won't work.
@@TheOffGridShop does the WeakAC needs to be on to make it work on the Multiplus II 5000va?
If you have an inverter type generator.
Can the muti plus auto start a generator? I’m way off grid so other then Solar my only power source will be an lp generator. What model would you recommend?
Yes it can. I would recommend getting the Cerbo and touch screen using that for your auto start. And get the biggest inverter you can afford. It's the hardest and most expensive thing to grow in the future.
Look at a 8-10kva Quattro..
@@TheOffGridShop great thanks why would you go Quattro or multi plus ll?
@@TheOffGridShop Why would he need an inverter? The multiplus is an inverter and charger
Yes I am saying the biggest inverter charger. I was meaning get a 5 8 or 10kva.
How does the multiplus/quattro dis-connect from the grid when the grid goes down?
They have a voltage sensing contactor that opens up. Depending where you are based you might require to have a second contractor installed.
@@TheOffGridShop great thanks, does victron have a compatible contactor?
Are either of these UL-certified in the US?
Yes they are.
Is there a plan to release the 5000 watt model for north America?
Very likely. You can get a Quattro 5kva?
On victrons data sheet is says the 15kva mp2 can be hooked up in 3 phase of 18 units for 75kw inverter. And the 15kva quattro can be 12 units in 3 phase for 144kw. Doesn't make sense?
Yes they can be. 3 phase you can do 6 groups of 3 15kvas units. 6 x 45 is my understanding. Single phase you can do upto 12 units in parallel. I hope this helps. You designing a big system?
What's the maximum output on these inverters when using batteries ? Is the Quatro able to run say an induction stove if you have 28kw of storage ?
If it's a 5kva Quattro it will double the out our for 3 seconds.
If you have look at the data sheet it will all depend on the temperature it's operating at. A 5kva is normally good for 4000 watts for 30 minutes continually.
Lets us know if Mike answered your questions.
Is it possible to use Quattros for Vehicle 2 Home? So one Input connecting with the V2H Wallbox?
The vehicle batteries would have to match the voltage parameters of the Quattro. Most EVs operate at around 400v whereas the Quattro operates around the 48v mark. Best to speak with someone directly www.theoffgridshop.com.au/pages/contact-us-1
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Multiplus-II 48v 5,000VA or a Quattro 48v 5,000VA, with two 48v 100ah server rack batteries. My intension is totally off grid mobile workshop Sprinter van. I would like the ability to plug in a generator if the battery power ran low or I needed to charge it off grid. No solar initially, but maybe some solar panels down the road, and even a third 48v battery down the road. But for starters, cost wise, just the inverter/batteries. I'm currently using two Honda EU2200i Generators paralleled. I'm still not quite sure what I should get even after watching this video LOL, I'll probably have to watch it again LOL. I don't need anything super fancy just want a quieter and less gas exhaust fumes and always available power. I think a 5,000VA 48v Victron might be comparable, hopefully a tad better, than my two Honda 2200's in parallel.
A few things I would consider. If you want ease and it other people will use it get a Quattro. Very easy to have the generator on one input and the grid on the other to plug into mains when required. These days with software you can change the input current. So if you have a small generator and want to turn the amps down you can from the touch screen. And Same as id you have the grid and the right wiring you can turn it up to charge faster through the one input. Me personally I would go a Quattro with a 15 amp generator plus on one and a 32 amp industrial plug on the other input. Does that help?
@@TheOffGridShop Thanks! Yes, there might be situations where if I run low on battery power, I would like to plug in a generator to charge or supplement. When I get home for the day I can plug into shore power to recharge for the next days work. So if you were just going with a 48v 5kva Quattro, what other Victron parts would you get? I will pretty much be the only one managing the system. It is to power a few tools, fans and lighting at the same time. My two 2200 Hondas work but when I am in full swing I do hear the generators struggle a bit when I turn on the last few items. But once turned on the Honda's seem okay and I've not had issues, yet. But again I would prefer the quietness and no fumes of an inverter/battery system. Again, what other Victron parts would I need for a Quattro build? What touch screen are you talking about?
Sorry, this was as clear as mud. Delivery was too fast, confusing, and unclear. I'll just have to read some brochures and manuals to figure this out.
Thank you for the feedback. Appricate it.
Sir bro? Presentation bit like a jigsaw puzzle that’s still in the box.
What would you like to see?
Cerbro or Cerbo?
Cheers Bro? Said with a Kiwi accent!
And it Cerbo
the intro music is too loud on this video
Thank you. And I am with you. We are currently looking to hire a new video editor.
Thank you for the feedback.
i double took..... its CER BO not CER BRO...
I was getting that mixed up for the first 6 months of installing them, LOL
CER BRO LOL!! Like it!!
Confusing
Thank you for the feedback. What confused you?
Talks about all models, & all features, all at the same time. An incomprehensible mess.
Thanks for the feedback. Can you suggest what you would like?
yeah, i didnt get much out of this. this is for noobs 101 - beyond that there is no value here - you will have to dive in much much much deeper then this
Thank you Jim. Yes this is a simple difference. And the reality is that's the only difference in the units. Everything else is the same on them. Is there something in particular you're looking for I can help you with?
Dont think u actually know the difference.
Thanks for the comment. What are we missing?
@@TheOffGridShop what's the reason you say that?
Too flaky.
Thank you for the feedback. Can I have your honest opinion on this one? th-cam.com/video/9eubgFihQI4/w-d-xo.html
Muddled nonsense
Thanks for the feedback. What's suggestions do you have for us?
@@TheOffGridShop I think they are referring to the audio, there is a constant hum/buzz in the background and that makes your voice not clear. Good info your providing, but your audio on the video is somewhat hard to hear good.
Waffle....
Thanks for watching the waffle!