Why Video Games are Art | The Beauty of Play, and How 'Fun' is not the Opposite of Art
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- Are video games art? An in depth analysis explaining why videogames are art, and why it is important we spread the message. The fact that video games are art seems self-evident to many, but games are still dismissed as lacking in artistic merit , due mostly to their emphasis on play and fun, but in this video, I try to get underneath why that view is misguided.
This video tries to definitively answer why videogames are art.
Historically, art has always been a performance of some kind, and games fall firmly into that category. Games are about meaning, emotion, purpose, storytelling, abstract systems and imitation. These attributes cover many of the definitions of art conceived of by art theorists through the ages.
Why games are art ? Are Videogames Art?
Games are art in more ways than one.
You still have many who say videogames are not art, and they are right. Many games are not art just like there are books and movies that are not art. Just because some games are not art, does not mean all games are not art, or that some games can't be.
This video tries to definitively answer why videogames are art.
The art of play involves expression creativity and flair, and we live out stories through our actions. An artform has rules and historical lineage, just like games. Games are art because we engage with and discuss them in meaningful ways, and they effect people deeply.
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The film critic Roger Ebert once said that games can never be art, because they fundamentally detract from the authorship of creators, have win conditions and, are about fun. But to say videogames are not art is to make a premature judgement in my estimation.
Why are games art? Becuase they fulfill all the criteria for art in accordance with any number of different definitions, and so to relegate it to not being art is to say that art doesn't exist at all. There are art games that deliberately want to take fun away from the player, as well as games that have been preserved in museums. I go into this in the video.
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Art to me is something beautiful that conveys a deeper meaning. Speeches are art.
To me everything made by heart that makes me feeling something is art
@@idk.man_ that’s how I feel too
@@hesh1491 awesome :)
7:19 Ironic how he starts talking about Plato and the first shot we see is Link running out of a cave
To add to the irony, Plato famously denounced art and aesthetics in society..
A point to analyze: music, poetry, literature, sculpture, architecture, are all forms of art previous to the development of market as the medium of circulation and realization of labor-value under industrialized capitalism. Films appears some time before than video-games, and everybody sees that movies are more "historically-naturally" attached to the logic of capitalist market. In this sense video-games appears, historically, under the conditions of a developed capitalism in all the world, and because of this, under a strong logic of merchandise, instead of the aesthetic, emotional, and cultural conditions of poetry emergence in society.
Maybe this serves to understand why an art form like video-games has found so much difficulties to be conceptualized in this way, and instead has been forced once and again to develop strictly as merchandise, and merely as a realization of labor-value on capitalist market.
Sorry for the poor English, I'm from Argentina and have no time right now to check the translation. ;)
Nice video, BTW.
Regards
RVStudio lol tengo que hacer un ensayo de porque los videojuegos som arte y tu comentario me ayudo. Nice :3
@@memorableman3709, jaja, qué bueno, che, me alegro, gracias por mencionarlo, ! ^_^
I think this is a very tough topic to discuss for multiple reasons, but I think you're on the right track. I was especially interested in your reference to using the game Go to prove someone's skill and power, as a kind of performance piece. That really made me think about not how games are art, but how art is interpreted by others. Art can be so many things, even involving human struggle.
I also think that the discussion around games as art has already been proven. Consumer-level analysis for games as products is always going to exist as long as games are products, as long as money is spent to obtain them. This being said, I find consumer-level interpretation to be a bit on the cut-and-dry side. I think analysis of games as artistic artifacts is flourishing especially with TH-cam and channels like yours and many others, and I personally find that far more compelling.
Definitely do your best to refine your production values. Clean up your audio in post-production, use drop shadows and outlines to make your on-screen text easier to read, and organize your script a bit better so your points are implicitly segmented into more cohesive and easier-to-follow parts. I will also note that your voice is oddly relaxing, but not in a "boring" way. You have good narration and your tone is attentive.
I hope you read this comment and consider these ways to improve. As someone who's always searching for fresh, up-and-coming channels regarding video game analysis, I'm happy I stopped by. Keep it up.
Thanks alot for the constructive criticism PostMesmeric. Yeah I'm new to the whole video editing thing so i'm working out a few kinks. I Realize my audio is pretty poor, do you have any specific tips that can help with that?
In any case thanks for stopping by.
This is a great analysis. You're right that by most definitions of art, games qualify. Although Some games are obviously not art others certainly can be
Anything can be art if it's presented as art, even something it's not art inherently.
I know what you mean. Like there are games, which don't try to convey a deep meaning. But remember, the most celebrated peace of art is a portrait of a woman. Nothing else. No meaning(I guess). Still art. We should not put the entrance bar higher than in other artforms. Although I would say, that art pieces, the convey meaning are better, but that's just a personal taste. So for me, many games like journey have more artistic value than the Mona Lisa, still the Mona Lisa remains art
All I wanted is video games just to be a fun experience Not some sort of artistic art form
Just like with movies, and books, paintings etc...
@@awall1439 It can be both
Drawing-Art
Sculpting-Art
Writing-Art
Music-Art
Design-Art
Add a programmer to merge it all together to bring to life a vision of a collective of different artists and suddenly it is not art?
The design is the opposite of Art, the design always has a functional intention (look at the definition of design by d. schon)
@@SLVpersoIf function is being used synonymously with purpose, then ot should be pointed out that art can also have a purpose. For example, many paintings were produced in India during the freedom struggle to awaken the national consciousness in people.
Thank you very much ! I always try to explain how video games are art (or at least how they can be art), especially to adults who are always saying "video games are violent blabla, young people shouldn't play video games, it makes them violent too, uncultured, blabla" even though they don't know anything about it and barely heard of it, and you explained it so well ! I'm not an expert, and I never owned a video game, but friends lent me some, (Zelda botw for example) and I watched gameplays (detroit become human, and others) and I know that video games are a wonderful medium to make art (Gris, Journey, Samorost, etc are great examples)
So thank you so much !
(PS : sorry if my english isn't perfect 😅)
Thanks Hedia! I agree, its hard to explain to people who don''t understand games why it is an artform. The best way we have to convince them, I think, is to show them examples of games that are, and have conversations about it. Also, Its awesome that you take it upon yourself to convince others of games as a medium!
I see games as art, but I also think it's ok if we see them as Sport or Trash, too. Kind of like how Federico Fellini and David Lynch can make art in the same medium as Michael Bay. Anyway, great video! I can see why your channel has gained so much traction in the past year.
This is probably one of the best video in the discourse of video games as art. I feel bad for only seeing it now after 5 years.
Man, you deserve more subscribers with such a beautiful mind.
Oh my gosh why doesn't this have millions of views, people need to hear this!
5:09 I think Spec Ops the line has already been told in a different medium, the movie Apocalypse Now also uses Heart of Darkness as a huge inspiration, but instead of taking place in the Congo it takes place in Vietnam, where a U.S soldier is asked to kill Colonel Kurtz (Marlon Brando)
That being said there's a different feeling to Spec Ops when compared to Apocalypse Now, mostly because Spec Ops is interactive, and I think removing that aspect and turning it into a movie would heavily change the tone of the game into something else.
Yeah but that exactly what he said too. That could this story being told in different medium would have able to point the finger as it's viewer as this game points to its player.
Heart of darkness, apocalypse now, and spec ops the line are some of the greatest pieces of fiction ever
As some one who is a striving artist
I find games can be in its own thing and can be considered as Art
I see it as a big canvas how you are able to create something of that game through your own experience
They are made with visions people who sees a big picture and visually shows it to us players through thier creation and let us experience it for ourselves and in our own pacing
When games can emotionally move you without the use of other mediums and only does something a video game can do, that’s when it becomes an art. Spoiler for the shadow of the colossus - the scene at the end when Wander is being pulled by the fountain and the player is completely in control and it becomes the player’s choice on how long they want to resist, that’s when games become art. The narrative and music are there to drive the player to that one moment, and in that one moment, the game does something only video games can do, it puts you in control. You aren’t watching Wander fight... you are fighting with him. Games can be art. I have been moved by a games visuals, music, and narrative, but playing that sequence in SotC was the only time i was moved by gameplay.
And video games can move peoples lives. A fan told Lena Raine, the composer of Celeste that her music was one of the reasons he didn't commit suicide. If that doesn't make it art I don't know what does.
A sunset can emotionaly move you. Do you consider a sunset as art?
@@ashiok1011 Are psychologist artists? Because they prevent many people to commit suicide. Actually, I think it's more the opposite, if a videogame become strong enough to make a large number of people commit suicide (such as The Sorrows of Young Werther) we might be able to call it Art.
@@SLVperso Possibly, but I would more so call psychologists artists than terrorist organisations, that turn people into suicide bombers. Both have a great impact tho are could therefore by some definition probably be considered art.
Humans have this necessity of classifying everything neatly for our minds to cope with it. And I think in this case we’ve fallen on this paradigm again.
Why frame video games as art? Art itself is a human concept. Made up for classifying this human need for expression. But “art” has become this boundary in that everything inside is of higher moral value. Everything searches the “artistic” value. Video games -as the name suggests- are essentially always games. And I think calling video games only “art” is taking away the “game” part of it.
For me, I’d prefer calling video games “artistic games” only because there’s not really a word for this hybrid between games and art. And that’s the real conflict here.
Interactive art is interesting to consider in this discussion, like interactive art is more often seen in museums today.
If The Last of Us isn't art then neither are books or films.
I think you made after the tedious back and for comparisons of "no u!", at 5:04 you nailed it, what for me is the most important criteria and probably the only one, To engage with the media (container and tools, the spacetime of it, canvas, the game engine) in a way that information CAN ONLY be presented in such way, by definition [like what could be more appropiate to put in motion pictures than what is CINEMATIC, etc], I think that not only is a good criteria (because falsifiable enough yet our judgement on what the limits are in metaphor, analogy, extrapolation, are not that fixed over time, because breakthroughs), I really can't think of another that useful
The rest would be wether or not particular groups or the times consider individual games, including everchanging canon also, Art or mere play: It will depend on taste, based on shared taste like all else artsy-
I consider art as something creatively constructed that tries to convey emotions to you(which includes just being exciting or fun). There's percentages of artistic quality, each project has to be assessed separately, but if filmmaking is considered an artform, then I think it's a no brainer that atleast most story games should fall into the category, they have narratives, characters, creative ideas, acting, cinematography, etc, same as movies. Plus the ability to interact directly
Great video. It definitively has challenged some of my viewpoints. I appreciate how your approach was so multifaceted.
Ran on your video while seraching material for my own video on the same subject. Your ideas is really strong and it affected my opinion. Yea, video isn`t beuatiful, but you have evolved throut the time. Well, thank you for your work, it really helped me and i`ll try my best to don`t just copy your thoughts, but also filtering it through my mind. P.S. sorry if my eng is bad, hadn`t wrote on it for a while
I love this so much. I cannot agree more but i could never explain it so perfectly.
My two cents is; plenty of video games are beautiful works of art but plenty of others are not of quality. I compare games to reality tv vs tv Sagas. Kardashians vs Stranger Things if you will
Regarding the question of how (or even if) a movie (or any other noninteractive medium) can point the finger at its audience, I’d argue that it IS possible, albeit extremely rare and difficult to pull off. The best example of this is probably the film Funny Games, which uses the tropes of horror and suspense films (especially those in the “home invasion” subgenre) as a means of pointing the finger at moviegoers who happily watch said films as a means of entertainment. Just as Spec Ops plays with the conventions and themes of military shooters to implicate the player, Funny Games goes out of its way to point out that it’s pretty messed up that people actually enjoy passively watching scenes of torture and sadism, rather than seeing them as legitimately horrifying.
An overwhelming amount of film, art, & literature point at the audience. I don't actually think there's much of a question on how or if a movie can do it. They do it all the time, you probably just don't notice it. Funny Games is a great example of a film that implicates the audience, but there are a plethora of less obvious answers to this question. Implicating the audience in a film, book, or novel is entirely possible without 4th wall breaks or any pointing
Jordan Peterson's description of the goal of art is to bring the audience into the unknown. Can't imagine a form of art that is better suited to that goal...
@Ranga Jesus that's completely irrelevant to the point he just made
@Ranga Jesus cause I felt like it and you just made a basic statement without backing anything up or clarifying anything
@Ranga Jesus ok, thanks for clarifying that up, your original comment was far too vague and I don't even necessarily disagree with you
If video games are mysteriously disqualified as being art as a whole, they certainly contain art in the parts. Music, 2d-images OR 3d 'sculpture', and linear OR non-linear storytelling, voice-acting and even the athletic endeavor of capturing martial arts or dance (in a motion-capture studio) can all be within a portfolio of art.
If anyone ever tells you that video games aren't art, hand them a copy of either Undertale or Little Nightmares 2. They'll change their mind.
Great video, definitely lacks the views it deserves!
Some examples of artistic games: outer wilds, the witness, antichamber, journey, song of bloom, the talos principle 1 & 2, gorogoa
Just as traditional paintings, modern movies, novels and so on. Video games occupy hundreds of different genres and tackle many subjects that have surfaced throughout history.
The creation of a video game may also be considered an art, just as building a house or creating origami.
The act of playing a game is not really an art because just like viewing a famous painting or movie, one is simply expirienceing the work of the artist.
Unless taking the time out of your day to expirience something is considered, in itself, an art.
Personally I believe art is subjective. If it makes you feel... anything, whether it would be happens, sadness, anger. Then the artist has completed what they set out to do.
Even if it wasn't their true intent.
Just found your channel and I'm loving your work. Great video on a hard to articulate subject. Bravo.
Anyone who thinks games aren’t art clearly haven’t played Red Dead Redemption 2
And now Ghost of Tsushima
lennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!
Death Stranding also that shit was crazy
The Division 2 as well
And Gris, and Hollow knight, and outer wilds... all these are art
Based on Tolstoy, Kant and Heidegger's definition video games is art. But based on George Dickie's definition, whether video game is art all depends on what the experts say. For many of the true gamers video game is definitely art, but for those who don't play, it is wasted effort trying to convince them. I work in the video game industry. I tend to agree with Ebert and Kojima that video game is not art. However, I believe video games has transcended art. Video game can convey more emotion, create more meaning, inspire more people and bring gamers around the world to play together. That is what makes video games more "special" than art. What that "special" thing is, is for you and I to decide.
The thing about it I hate is when people think that something has to be emotional or have some kind of profound message to be 'art'. If you like a game and it added to your life doesn't that make it 'art'? after all isn't art all about the individual and what people get out of it? so if someone likes a game and thinks it is art but it isn't unanimously praised as art does that mean they're wrong?
Great work. I stopped playing video games around Tony hawks underground 2, and I’m kind of going back to them now. Only that I studied art for 8 years at the university in between and maybe grew a bit as well.
So I am curious: I think you and I agree on the point that the definitions are not defining what is art. And frankly I don’t think it’s the presentation necessarily either, but rather the perspective. But my question to you would be: how would you like games to be presented, as art? I mean very practically speaking, because a 50hour game is hard to present in a gallery. . Maybe museums need gaming booths? Or else you could present the background and people behind a game, however then it would not be the game itself that is on display..I’m sure you have some thoughts on that.
Also, I made a kind of similar video on why I consider movement as it’s own aesthetic category, which feeds directly into some of the aspects of games that you mentioned in this video. Maybe that interests you. It’s here on TH-cam as well.
Videos games forver have been and forever will be art. Games are much more than many will ever know. Games can be a lot more and a lot less. Video games have more potential than film or books. I loved this video man.
Great analysis and video! Which game is this at 5:55?
Uncharted 4
To me all the games are art, but there’s some of them who are make with only a purpose: make money, and when the art becomes a product it can’t be called art anymore.
In my school we talked about it in art class some years ago, and to me the definition of art is: put out a phrase that can’t be explained in words.
games are games like basketball or baseball, thats why we created esport
@UnknownV I'm obviously talking about games which win or lose doesn't matter like Gris
This is a really interesting and well thought out video. Nice work
11:48 Could someone tell me what is the game it is ? Tanks !
You get a major shout from me along with a like and a sub for this topic of video and including soundtrack from metal gear solid my good sir
Maybe I'm not in the norm but a video game has Never moved me like art, photography or fillm has.
have you played a sony game before
It’s the opposite for me
11:38 . Could someone please tell me what game is that?
Fez
My right ear really enjoyed this video
Awesome analysis. Also +1 for NieR music
Thanks! Yeah it is my favorite soundtrack of last year by far.
Having choice can make experiences more valuable instead of cheapening them because people can feel that these experiences are results of their choices, they have agency, not mere observers of a "high above" artist who is "holier" than them, basically, games are less elitist than "art", so it can be argued that recognizing games as art is good for art. And about 'fun', which is a synonym for "entertaining": let us look at The Godfather, one of the best films ever. Is it art? Most people will probably say yes. Is it entertaining? Well what is it based on? A book, which is a thriller. What are thrillers? Philosophical assertations? Yes The Godfather is not only entertainment, but it is basically and essentially a crime thriller, it is essentially "entertaining". Really, how many films are produced with no entertainment value in mind, if any? How many fiction books are published without any entertainment value in mind? More than films, but not a great deal. Are Shakespeare play entertaining? Of course. Isn't Don Quixote, considered to be the greatest novel by many, including authors, entertaining? Indeed. What is the issue of with fun for critics regarding games? Pretension or prejudice?
Ebert knows movies but all respect he doesn't know games .
12:14 - Please make this video or if you have already made it then please reply me back with the link to it because I couldn't find it
I heavily believe that video games are art, with that said it is a tragedy that many amazing games that took are effectively lost to time such as ones released on the ps2
They should reference games they show in the video at least the first long one
Video games are art
I agree!
*Games are actually more art than anything else you can think of* 🤔
Spec ops the line is such a great game, one of the only games I consider to be art.
Give a Try in: life is strange, the walking dead, to the moon, a bird story, finding paradise, journey and celeste... all of these games have beautiful meanings, with awesome soundtracks and for sure... the prove that videogame is art :)
There are video games, and then there is video art
It has character development, world building, a uniqe design. That is an art
I thought my left speaker was dead.
What's the game at 4:02?
To The Moon
@@APaleDot Thanks :)
Great video. But please re-record and re-upload it with a better audio. So that it can be more enjoyable to watch. Thanks 👍
Thanks!. Yeah, this is one of my earliest videos when I was still figuring out how to record audio, I'll try to get to fixing it at some point.
Yeah sure.
But what about the gamers and artist
Could you tell me please in what is the name of the game the at shown in the 6 minute. I am searching quiet sometime.
Uncharted 4. Ps4 exclusive
looking at art dosent mean you a artist
Video games are not art. Is pure design from start to end and the product that emerge from that design is a utility for people can entertainment. In that sense video games are not created to be contemplated, but played. All the things in a video games are worked for a public target and is completelly metric and calculated. There is no difference between a digital app and a video game 'cause both are a software product waiting to be purchased.
This is such an insanely dumb comment. What video games have you played that make you an expert on whether or not it’s an art form?
Following that logic is like saying there’s no difference between a phone and a microwave cause both are waiting to be purchased, wtf??
Haven’t you took your time to appreciate the landscape some games have? The Witcher 3, Dark Souls 3, Elden Ring, GOW2018
There are artist that also just want to entertain, aren’t comedians artist? They HAVE to perform and performance is a form of art, either through imitating or making up voices
@@xTechnomaniac Yeah, there's no difference between a phone and a microwave when it comes to pure design. There's no art in those processes. Both are products waiting to be bought, and before they hit the market, they've been polished to the max based on a planned and calculated process, even considering past sales. Until all video games can truly be considered art, like the existing seven arts, we can't objectively classify them as art. For now, they're just a tough and fascinating design job aimed at a target audience we want to sell to. At the end of the day, it's about idealizing, calculating costs and sales probabilities, designing, testing to polish every element, advertising, and selling. If there's any error or element that users don't like, you just fix it to keep selling and keep the buying public happy.
@@xTechnomaniac If video games are to be considered art, objectively speaking, it can't be just because of one of their elements. It doesn’t make any sense... Like saying my game is art because it has a background of a Botero painting about still life, and my game is about that, so since the background is art, my game is art... totally nonsensical. And we can be sure that each of the landscapes in those games wasn’t accepted on the first try as an artistic explosion; they were worked on multiple times through an improvement process to meet certain prerequisites, regardless of the creative opinion of the artist. Again, a planned and calculated process to create a product and sell it.
@@xTechnomaniac Video games are meant to entertain. That's the goal of any game, whether it’s a video game or not. There’s nothing spontaneous about the design process of a video game as an expression of art. Everything is planned, calculated, worked on, and improved to keep the end users happy and wanting to buy more. From its visuals, sound, mechanics, dynamics, texts, and other elements, everything meets certain prerequisites aimed at a particular audience. It’s not like cinema, where each actor brings uniqueness and spontaneity to their character, or painting, where the artist has the freedom to decide when their work is finished. In a video game, everything goes through a process and a consensus, aiming to improve and meet established requirements. Even if only one person is developing the game, the audience that buys and plays it ultimately has the final say. And we can be sure that if there’s a mistake or something bothers the majority, the designer (if they really want to make money) will fix it to keep the audience happy.
Currently developing a thesis on this for my philosophy or art class :)
6:04
Eweryhing is art in some wa.Even living is art
hell yeah. awesome video!
That’s why it’s important that they DO NOT censor our games . God I hate society
I agree, Art should not be censored.
All this talk of "fitness indicators" and the evolutionary purpose of art really misses the mark. What we find beautiful or fun may come from biology but it is reductive explain art in these terms. A painting can be beautiful even if it is visually ugly, a game can be engaging even if it's not fun, a story can be meaningful even if it doesn't make sense.
Art is what I call Outer Wilds, a game that guides players through the story just by our curiosity and just that with a beautiful soundtrack.
Obs: the less you know about the game, more beautiful and unique your experience will be.
This audio balance is favoring the right side and It makes an otherwise great video, harder to enjoy :| especially with headphones
so if games inherently r incapable of being art
that would mean that if u put a picture of the mona lisa (which...i suppose is art?) its "art" status would all of a sudden perish 😏
and even if not then at least percentage-wise the game would contain "some" art rather than absolutely 0
Video game is art
Is a toy art of course it is cuz you have hired artists design that toy so you can hold it in your hand
games aren't toys tho
Facts
is cod art?
yes, just not very meaningful art. Like a Michael Bay movie.
Please talk more clearly in your videos, you eat your words sometimes and its hard to understand. Im taking notes for an essay im writing on videogames and have to listen 5 times to guess what word you used sometimes.
awesome!!
Id rather have fun gameplay mechanics than a deep story. If i want that then i go watch a movie. I only like them if they are very artistic (like DEM)
talk more about art being video game like green lantern and any other I know am smart tell more about Geoff johns
Games are not Art, Games are way more, it's something more unique than Art.
When we play a video game, we become Players, we are no longer individuals. Art doesn't require that we take a certain role, but the design of every video game is 100 percent dependent on Players. Art does not demand we become viewers of it for it to exist and appeal to anyone. Games are Not art.
Games are made from knowledgeable people that create a specific product to meet expectations of a player ... Art does not require Any specific knowledge about the mechanics of the objects they paint or create, but we demand that game designers are knowledgeable to create games That Work, so we can enjoy them as Players.
@@MAKIzfontcfg You cannot play a game if you don't know how to. And you cannot even watch a movie if you're blind. Or listen to a song if you're deaf. Even then, no one can deny that cinema and music are, indeed, art. When you watch a movie you're a viewer, when you listen to a song you're a listener. Art DOES require to take a certain role, as you can see. A movie doesn't exist if nobody watches it, and a song does not exist if no one listens to it. Why would it be different for video games? The same way, a game doesn't exist if no one plays it. And there's no art that can be enjoyed by everyone, as I shown before, and video games are no exception.
And, no. You don't "modify" a game while playing it. Any way you play it, it was meant by its creator, there is no change. The same way you can interpret a movie or a picture, you can do it for video games.
What I want to tell is just that there's no valid argumentation for video games not being art, and you should know that.
Also, just because you know, the Supreme Court officialy claimed that video games should be considered a form of art (you can search it on Google if you don't trust me), and so many other countries have done the same thing.
So, in conclusion, it's definitley safe to say that video games are indeed art. If you have something to argue about, please let me know.
If you read everything, thank you.
That's a bunch of nonsense. Video games involve drawing (textures) music and storytelling. All of those things are considered art and games combine all of them and add interaction. Video games ARE art.
Video games are art. What video games have you played to make you say that video games aren’t art? I want to hear your expert opinion on the matter.
@@mattw7057 within all genres there are more artsy games, well stylized graphics, cinematic experiences and actors that rely on artistic principles that produce a sense of wonder that a painting or cinema does... the difference is that a video game demands you to play it, to get the mechanics and gameplay, to get good at it, master it, win it. Art doesn't do these things. games that try to comment on this point are plenty, Stanley parable a chief example. interactive art does exist, it just doesn't demand you win, get that high score Etc. does that make it clear? hope so 🙏
Spec ops the line is such a great game, one of the only games I consider to be art.